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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey you welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind Listener Mail.

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Speaker 2: My name is Robert Lamb.

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Speaker 3: And I am Joe McCormick. And it's Monday, the day

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Speaker 3: of each week that we read back messages from the

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Speaker 3: Stuff to Blow Your Mind email address. If you've never

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Speaker 3: gotten in touch with the show before and you'd like

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Speaker 3: to give it a try, this is the week try

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Speaker 3: it out. You can email us at contact at stuff

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Speaker 3: to Blow your Mind dot com. We appreciate all kinds

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Speaker 3: of messages. Of course, we always like feedback to recent episodes,

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Speaker 3: especially if you have something interesting to add to a

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Speaker 3: topic we've talked about. Let's see Rob If you don't mind,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to kick things off with this message from Jeff.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: This is a response to last week's listener mail, in

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Speaker 3: which we also featured a message by Jeff. Last time,

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Speaker 3: Jeff wrote in with a second hand story or maybe

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Speaker 3: a third hand story about a scuba diver suffering a

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Speaker 3: gro tesk fish bite after harassing some wildlife. And he

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Speaker 3: included a note in that message about scuba divers laughing.

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Speaker 3: And I was wondering how can you tell if people

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Speaker 3: are laughing and they're like in the scuba gear and

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Speaker 3: all that. But Jeff has an answer. He says, I

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Speaker 3: wanted to answer Joe's question about how you can tell

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Speaker 3: someone is laughing when they're scuba diving. A group of

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Speaker 3: us went on a night dive, and as we got

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Speaker 3: settled on the sandy bottom, waiting for the entire group

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Speaker 3: to make their way down the buoy line, we noticed

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Speaker 3: a loggerhead turtle sleeping on the ocean floor. Of course,

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Speaker 3: everyone did exactly what you are not supposed to do

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Speaker 3: and surrounded it, shining our dive lights directly at it.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, This quite predictably freaked out the turtle, who

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Speaker 3: charged straight ahead and didn't quite clear my father as

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Speaker 3: it ascended, bonking him in the forehead with its beak.

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Speaker 3: This caused my father's dive buddy to laugh quite audibly

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Speaker 3: for some time. Dad was fine. He had a red

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Speaker 3: mark on his forehead when he came up, but no

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Speaker 3: permanent damage. He later remarked that he was thinking, Wow,

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Speaker 3: this is just like one of those three D movies.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we've ever had a turtle coming

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Speaker 3: at the screen. In one of those, we've had ping

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Speaker 3: pong balls or not ping pong balls? What's the wax

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Speaker 3: Museum movie? What is Oh, it's the paddleballs the three D.

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Speaker 3: You know, people holding out coffee cups at the at

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Speaker 3: the screen. But I don't know if I've seen a

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Speaker 3: turtle anyway, Jeff says his buddy retold the story for years,

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Speaker 3: always making sure to mimic the look on my father's face.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes i'd hear other divers ask, is that the guy

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Speaker 3: who got attacked by the turtle? Night dives, by the way,

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Speaker 3: are much cooler than you might expect. Many creatures who

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Speaker 3: were hiding during the day are on the move at night.

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Speaker 3: And while it's true that your world becomes limited to

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Speaker 3: the dive light beam without significant visibility, you really focus

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Speaker 3: on the details of what's in front of you. Since

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Speaker 3: you're bringing your own light source, you can actually see

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Speaker 3: the true colors of the organisms on the reef when

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Speaker 3: all of the warm colors on the spectrum are filtered

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Speaker 3: out by the water above, leaving everything blue and gray.

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Speaker 3: If any of your gear has a rainbow design, on it.

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Speaker 3: You can watch the roy of ROYGBIV lose his colors

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Speaker 3: one at a time as you descend. Oh that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: At night, if conditions are right and everyone turns off

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Speaker 3: like a trippy acid rock video. Anyway, getting back to

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Speaker 3: your original point, yes, you very much can hear a

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Speaker 3: and there's no issue with the dive apparatus if you

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Speaker 3: as it was meant to be. Oh, Jeff, yeah, that

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Speaker 2: Jeff, Oh, yeah, yeah, thanks for writing in about all that,

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Speaker 2: you know, I've done my share of snorkeling, but I've

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Speaker 3: Isn't there a specific phobia that's like not just water,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that's mean. So yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of dark water, but I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I'm necessarily afraid of it a number of reasons. I

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Speaker 2: haven't gotten into the scuba thing, I guess, but anytime

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Speaker 2: and I hear fantastic accounts of what they're up to.

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Speaker 2: It sounds great. I don't know. There's a lot more,

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Speaker 2: the whole scuba diving system. It sounds like they get

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Speaker 2: to see some really cool sights, all right. This next

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Speaker 2: one comes to us from Jay. Jay writes Sin and says, Hello,

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Speaker 2: Robert and Joe. I want to start by saying I've

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Speaker 2: been a fan of the show for a long time.

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Speaker 2: I love to learn new things, and even if I

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Speaker 2: while I very much enjoy the flagship episodes, I absolutely

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Speaker 2: love weird House cinema. My recommendation for the show is

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Speaker 2: the nineteen seventy three German sci fi film World on

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Speaker 2: a Wire, directed by Renier Werner Fassbender, currently available to

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Speaker 2: stream on the Criterion Channel. Ah. I am not a

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Speaker 2: current subscriber to Criterion Channel, but I have dipped in

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Speaker 3: I watched this movie on disc within the last year.

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Speaker 3: A friend of mine loaned it to me and I

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Speaker 3: thought it was incredibly interesting. So it's an adaptation of

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Speaker 3: a story I get. I don't know where the original

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Speaker 3: story is from, but the same idea was made into

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Speaker 3: a movie in the nineties called I Think The Thirteenth Floor,

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Speaker 3: but it's very supposedly that is a sillier adaptation. But

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Speaker 3: something that strikes me as like a very sort of

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Speaker 3: Stuff like that. But it's a really interesting film, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: guess it's an older movie so there's less concern about

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Speaker 3: want to know. But it does cover some similar themes

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Speaker 3: as kind of like the Matrix, but with a much

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Speaker 2: Hmm. Interesting, Yeah, I mean a Fastpender is a well

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Speaker 2: known German director and looking around here. I let's got

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Speaker 2: some other people I'm familiar with from other things, like

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Speaker 2: Kurt rob Is in it. So yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I should probably dive in. I don't think I've checked

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Speaker 2: out any of the Fastbender's films before anyway, Jay continues.

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Speaker 2: The main subject of my message today, though, is to

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Speaker 2: draw your attention to a table top role playing game

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Speaker 2: called Cloud Impress. It bills itself as an ecological science

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Speaker 2: fantasy RPG heavily inspired by the film NAUSICAA of the

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Speaker 2: Valley of the Wind. It is a post apocalyptic RPG

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Speaker 2: which takes place in a dangerous world and drops players

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Speaker 2: in an even more dangerous time. The emergence of a

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Speaker 2: you Guessed It, giant psychics cicadas. One of the things

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Speaker 2: players can do in the game is harvest dead cicadas

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Speaker 2: for a substance called chalk, which can be used to

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Speaker 2: It's a rules light system and is quick to pick

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Speaker 2: up in a blast to play, which I highly recommend.

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Speaker 2: You can get free rules and other resources at their

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Speaker 2: website and link is included here, but I think everyone

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Speaker 2: else can just look for it. Cloud Impress, ecological science, fantasy,

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Speaker 2: I should mentioned that.

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Speaker 3: I guess I think it was a kickstarter. Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: looks like it was. I don't know if that means

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Speaker 2: it looks like cloud empress dot com. But you know,

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Speaker 2: And anyway, Jay concludes by saying thank you for the

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Speaker 2: hours of entertainment and information. Jay, Well, this does look

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Speaker 2: can see the Nasca inspiration there. Very very interesting looking. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know. It's like it seems like there was a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, though the only tabletop RPG I ever have extensively

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Speaker 3: this other stuff out there these days. I'm tempted by it.

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Speaker 3: I would like to get into some of the more

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Speaker 3: I don't know, sci fi focused ones, or any of

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Speaker 2: Looking at the website a little bit closer, I think

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Speaker 2: World's by Watt. Watt is the is the publisher's name,

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Speaker 2: though it is. I believe you're in an independent operation here,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, I have to check it out. All right?

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Speaker 2: What else do we have in the bag here, Joe?

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Speaker 3: All right? This next message is a recommendation for Weird

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Speaker 3: House Cinema, and it comes from Dean. Dean says, hey, guys,

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Speaker 3: just watched Horror Express again. We never knew you watched

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Speaker 3: it the first time. Dean just watched it again and

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Speaker 3: it was great. Christopher Lee, Peter Cushing, Telly Savalas, Zombies, Aliens,

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Speaker 3: Mind control, skull removal and what more could you want?

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Speaker 3: Also forgot to mention another movie from Weird House for

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Speaker 3: Weird House, Latitude Zero with Joseph Cotton, Caesar Romero, brains

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Speaker 3: into animals, Batmanions, Submarine Warfare, Shangri La. All courtesy of

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Speaker 3: Ishiro Honda, Keep Them Coming, Dean, Well, Dean, I looked

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