WEBVTT - The Tarik Skubal soap opera, first-half reflections and the MLB Draft 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.080 And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:14.400 the Foul Territory Network, Detroit Tiger's podcast. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:15.320 I'm Kieren Steckley with. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:17.040 Me and as always as a man who never takes 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:20.000 a break from being an All Star, he's Cody Stevenagg 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:20.640 And how we doing. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:23.119 All right, Kieran. We made it. We've made it to 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.599 the All Star break. The first half and some change 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:30.680 of the season is over. And what a weird first 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:37.080 half it was. We're here to break it all down. Yeah, man, 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:38.800 where are we even starting? 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.440 Well, Look, it's been a journey, obviously, I think is 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:45.920 a good way to kind of put it, and one 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.159 that has had a lot of like ups and downs, 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.240 and you know, you think you know something and then 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:53.840 you know then the opposite happens, and then you just 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:58.200 realize you don't know anything. And that's really this Tigers team. 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:00.480 I still don't. I feel like I have a firm 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.280 grasp on what I can like confidently say will happen 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:07.840 moving forward. Uh, but you know, like like and honestly, like, 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.160 I think that was reflected in the game today, Cody. 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.279 We're recording this Sunday evening. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:17.319 Like I think today like we saw an emotionally and 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:22.160 physically too, obviously, but emotionally and physically spent baseball team. 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.360 That's kind of what I what I and and you know, 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.840 schoobl being Schooble is obviously an exception to a lot 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.760 of things in this I don't think Schooble was spent, uh, 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.440 you know, in this game. But but like you have 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.360 two one infield single on a routine round ball, almost 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:42.319 a second one. That's really just not having the sense 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.000 of urgency or I guess maybe the pure arm strength, 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.760 which is something we've talked about before U to get 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:48.840 get the ball from the left. 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.160 Side of the enfield over the first base. 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:54.240 You have Montero not you know, backing up a throw 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:55.880 at a home plate, and like all these kind of 0:01:55.880 --> 0:02:01.120 like little things just kind of it just made me think, like, Okay, yes, 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:02.920 so this team you have the hype at the beginning 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.280 of the season, and then you know, have the injuries, 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.880 and you have this huge slide and then that sense 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.840 of urgency that we've talked about, how every game seems 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.680 to have like a big feel to it, and every 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:17.240 bat and every pitching change and every pinch it and 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.720 like all these things, it just kind of felt like 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:21.840 this was this game felt like and of course it's 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.440 Zach Wheeler on the freaking mount. This game felt like 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.040 the tax that the team has kind of put itself 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.960 through throughout the quote you know, first half of the season. 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:35.680 Like it as much as like schoolbol versus Wheeler, you know, 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:37.640 and you kind of like want to talk yourself into 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.000 it kind of being like a playoff game feel and 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:40.840 and all that stuff. 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.120 I thought the more prevalent. 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.400 Emotion, I guess was the fact that this just looked 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.000 like a tired baseball team that I'm not saying they 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.320 take like tank the game or anything like that. I 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.520 just think this was the result of a team that 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.639 really needed like a real break. 0:02:58.320 --> 0:02:59.760 I think I think that's what we saw. 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.800 That's an interesting observation, and obviously it's backed by what 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:07.080 happened on the field. I would say there is a 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.560 little bit of a last day of school effect in 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.200 the final game before the All Star break, everyone's looking 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.760 to get out of town. I think I've kind of 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.600 experienced this every year i've covered the team, even last 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:19.800 year they had six All Stars. They had guys, you know, 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.800 I had to get to the All Star game. You 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:27.400 would like to think that that wouldn't hit you, affect 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:31.680 you in a situation where every game means so much. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:35.000 But I don't know. You know, you lost this weekend 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.120 to Christopher Sanchez and Zach Wheeler. You could say, oh, 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.160 look the Tigers face some real pitching and they did 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.840 absolutely nothing. That's kind of true. You could say, I 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.840 don't know, man, Like this was always going to be 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:47.720 a tough series to win. It would have been cool 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.600 if school, if Schoogle could have outdueled Wheeler and the 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:54.160 offense showed some life, it didn't happen. Listening to aj 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.640 Hinch after the game, he was still really positive. He said, hey, 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.160 he was a foreign two homestand and I mostly think 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.960 he's right. The Tigers are playing good baseball. They're continuing 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.040 to pitch well. Schoogle only allowed one run. We're gonna 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.840 talk about him more. Mies wasn't as sharp on Saturday, 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.520 but kind of grinded through his outing a little bit. 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.920 The Tigers have still gained a lot of ground. They 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:19.360 are somewhat within shouting distance, especially the wild card. They're 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.279 actually back to six and a half in the division. 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.960 But if they come out of the break playing well, 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.400 they can still mount a case. I don't really think 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.800 losing this series to the Phillies should dampen kind of 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.839 this cinemamentum this team has built. 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:38.919 Yeah, and again it just it looks bad. That was 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:41.400 probably the problem with these two losses. Like again the 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:45.080 Sanchez we other piece of this you're just you're hapless 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.560 is probably too strong, but you're just not getting anything 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:51.840 done at the plate, and then you're allowed and then 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.200 when you're kind of searching for breaks, which is obviously 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.640 what happened on Friday, Like you know, and I think 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.040 the way that they went on Friday kind of affected 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.039 like you know, not being able to get one of 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.960 the last two there. Uh, like you got a couple 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.520 of breaks in Friday night's game with some errors and 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.480 you know, and and you know, bounces your way didn't 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:14.719 happen at all Saturday and certainly Sunday, including like you know, 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.720 Derek Hill just like tracking down every single ball in 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.559 the outfield. It felt like if it was at the center. 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.479 I was like, all right, I kind of turned my 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.640 head away. I just assumed Derek Hill was gonna go 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:25.440 catch that, you know, and of course what he did 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:29.520 at the plate as well, so it just felt like 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:33.120 the perfect formula for this team to go down this way. 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:34.760 And if you want to just. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.520 Put it out there and put it on them, that 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.440 like the fact that they couldn't rise to the occasion 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:47.120 and this specific circumstances is reminiscent or like the perfect 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.279 example as to why this team is something something that 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:54.839 we should not take too seriously. I get where you're 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:59.680 coming from. I just have a hard time getting all 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.400 the way there on this. Given the level of competition, 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:06.040 given what we had seen since June one, twenty one 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.760 and thirteen since June won. You know, you come out 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.400 if you would have said that the Tigers were eight 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.560 games below the five hundred mark and obviously within shouting 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.080 distance of the division and a bunch of teams for 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:20.680 the wild card, you know, in late May, you would 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:22.880 have considered this like a really good stretch and the 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.479 team was fighting its footing and you know all that stuff. 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.640 So the macro piece of this I think should should 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:33.160 be acknowledged, even if the micro it just didn't feel 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.080 good watching it in the moment. 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.679 Sometimes I think the Tigers are gonna win the Al Central. Karen, 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.920 I mean, like, I don't know, I don't know even 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.080 losing you know, two games a ground the last two 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.560 days does kind of feel heavy. It's a lot to overcome. 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.920 But like, are the White Sox really going to win 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.240 this division? And if not, who or the misso Twins 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.040 gonna win this division? Come on, Like, if the Tigers 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.280 continue to pitch the way they are doing, this is 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:03.560 a achievable. This is attainable. Obviously is going to be 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.440 very difficult, and obviously you got to start making that 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.479 math look a little better before the August third trade deadlines. 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.520 To the same conversation we've been having for a long time, 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.840 But I like the way this team is playing. I 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:19.640 generally think this is the most talented team in the division. 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.880 And this thing is not over. It's going to be 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:24.360 really I mean, you get to come out of the 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.240 break and face the Angels, who are terrible and who 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.840 beat you two out of three at home last time 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.760 you saw. You know, if you want to make clear 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:34.720 that hey, May's in the past and we are this 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.320 team that can make the playoffs, good thing to do 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.040 would be to sweep the Angels, because then you might 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.520 look up in the standings and really start to feel 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.880 good about where you're at. It's going to be an 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.640 interesting couple weeks when we get back from the break. 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:49.760 I don't know what's going to happen. I'm not going 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:51.520 to make a prediction as to what's going to happen. 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:55.320 But I do believe, and largely because we have seen 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.120 it so much recently, there is a good team here 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.640 right like it exists, is not over. 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Today 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.800 on Sunday, Cody, because you know, he gets pulled there 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.320 in the in the sixth inning after a tough battle 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.160 with Bryce Harper, you know, Montero comes in. We obviously 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.520 you know, you know know what happened after that, But 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:22.600 it was a you don't get this kind of like 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:28.600 Trek's Schooble angst about coming out, Like I felt like 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.640 that was like more palpable than normal from him, not 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:33.920 just the competitor stuff. No, most of the time when 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.680 he gets pulled, he's like, you know, but this time 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.240 he could like he felt you could tell he felt like, 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:43.880 I just don't really agree. That's me making up a 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:45.760 statement from him. Obviously he didn't quote this, but he 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:47.479 just didn't agree with being taken. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:47.640 Out of there. 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.400 He had more left, you know, And of course he 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.640 was very clear to say, I'm not second guess in aj. 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.280 I respect his decisions. I'm not trying to create a story. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.160 But he wanted to stay in the game, and he 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:01.800 wasn't afraid to admit that. I think it's interesting, Like 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.640 so many people seem to always want him to throw 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:08.080 more pitches, right, and it is like, okay, so where's 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:11.640 the cutoff? Because one more batter he could be at 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.640 ninety eight, ninety nine, one hundred, all right. It's very 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.840 unlike aj Hinch to leave anyone in beyond that, So 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:21.600 as leaving schoobl In for one more batter doing any good? Like, 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.560 I think the bigger picture here, And I kind of 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:28.800 said and asked this Tottererk after the game. He would 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:30.520 have had a much better case to stay in this game. 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.360 At the fifth inning didn't last twenty seven pitches, and 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.000 if the Bryce Harper at bat didn't last ten pitches, 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.440 Bryce Harper took Trek Scuoble out of this game. He 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.520 was supposed to have ten to fifteen pitches to work with. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.480 Harper used up ten of them, poked a ball and 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.600 got on base, and it wasn't necessarily poor execution, but 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:49.719 he didn't get out of that count. He kind of 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.160 struggled getting out of two strike counts to his usual 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.040 ability all day and that's why the pitch count built up. 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.920 You know, would it be great to see Terrek Scoober 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:59.720 will go more than ninety three? Sure, I think he 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.400 was upset because there's a second straight game, even you know, 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.920 with only five innings to his name. He talked earlier 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.920 this week about wanting to be a Justin Erlander type 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.560 guy who goes and takes down innings, you know, like 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.880 the old school, the pitchers of old That's not the 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.839 modern reality. And for whatever reason with Terrek, it plays 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:19.680 into this bigger narrative. There's a little bit of a 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:23.800 tangent here, and like, why do people think he like 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.480 asked out of Game five. I've never understood where that 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:30.280 came from. People think he requested out of that game, 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:33.560 and that's not what was said. That's not my injury. 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.680 Like it's it's not like Trek Skoubel determines how long 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.880 he pitches. That's a j Anshes's decision. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.680 Yeah, well man, deep cut there as we as. 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.439 He gets well, that's all I heard listening to the 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.160 radio on the way home. It's like, this is like 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.360 Game five. He wants to stay in Detroit, but he 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.200 doesn't want to stay longer than that. It's like, I, 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.160 I don't know he got pulled from both those games. 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.440 After Game five he did say something like I indeed 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.920 my tank I believe because he knew that was going 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.040 to be his last inning, or he knew he wasn't 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:06.720 gonna see who was at Pilanco another time. So that's 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.360 getting way down in the weeds. Interesting managerial decision, because 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.560 Scobold was having a good day, maybe you could have 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.559 left him in, tried to get him through that inning. 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.520 To hear Aj Hinchen explain it, he liked having cater 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:21.000 Montero in the bullpen. He wanted to bring in Cater. 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.480 I just think the history of aj Hinch managing games, 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.880 and really almost every modern manager is you're probably not 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:33.800 gonna go over one hundred pitches. So this is more 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.280 semantics here. If wanted to stay longer in the game, 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.600 he shouldn't have thrown as many pitches up to five 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:40.280 plus innings. 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:44.800 Yeah, you kind of stole my point there at the end. 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:48.199 Like my first of all, if there's any like if 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:53.080 you watch Trek Scouobold do anything and then you doubt 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:57.040 his competitive drive, I just don't know how many things 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:58.920 we're gonna have in common in general, you know what 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.160 I mean when we're trying to talk about baseball and 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.480 our understanding of this game. So if you have doubts 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.920 about that, it's gonna be hard for me to engage 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:11.120 with you number one. Number two, I look at like 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.960 these like pitching decisions that AJ makes that like I like, 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.520 you know, I wouldn't have done not to say I'm 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:19.760 some baseball genius, but like I would love school in there. 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:21.560 But like again, that doesn't make me right. 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:26.040 Uh, Like I believe that the bigger deal is, like 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:29.000 you said, getting to this point where you're in the 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.600 sixth inning and you're at ninety three pitches or whatever 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.720 because you couldn't punch guys out because they kept fouling 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.200 you off because like you know, you had a walk 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.560 or two or whatever like that, Like these these all 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.840 those things had just as much to do with with 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.440 that decision as just like Bryce Harper found off a 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:48.960 couple of pitches there at the end, you know, and 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.120 you're kind of emptying the tank, as he says, As 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:55.400 he has said before. Number two, these decisions become a 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.560 whole lot simpler if the offense had a four spot 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:01.280 up already, you know, like like the fact that the 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:04.320 offense hadn't done squat to that point and really the 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.960 whole game, well they have two hits, like that that 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.720 that is also why like AJ's like, I just can't 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.680 I mean, I'm guessing he's thinking, I just can't risk 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.400 a fatigue picture no matter who it is, a fatigue 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.400 picture in a one nothing game, when I got to 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.280 try to keep this deficit as little as possible or 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.720 you know the same, hopefully you know. And then Monteo 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.280 comes in there, he takes a ball off his leg, 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:31.600 he hangs a it was a split no whatever you 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.640 hung to Roomudo there that you know was over the plate, 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:41.160 and and so like and and so like it worked 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.680 against you. But you but if you have four runs 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.520 on the board, if you have three runs on the board, 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:46.760 maybe there's a little bit more of a. 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:47.880 Leash for schoobl or whoever. 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.600 The picture is, so all these things like factor in uh, 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:52.880 just as much in my mind than just like, oh, 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:56.240 I'd rather like it's not a nutshell argument, I guess 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.840 is the way to summarize my tangent here. It's not 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:00.720 like in a nutshell what did you rather have Tark 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.000 Schooble or Kada Montera? 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:03.960 You know what I mean? Like that that's not how 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:04.760 it works, you know. 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.280 So Yeah, there's also the conspiracy theory that like the 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:13.080 Tigers are babying Schooble because they want to trade him, 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.800 to which I would say, like, this guy had surgery 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:18.600 not all that long ago. A j was kind of 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.320 always clear they were going to be somewhat cautious, and 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:25.360 he's pitching pretty dang close to his normal workload. I 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:27.400 don't think you're trying to push him one hundred and 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.760 ten pitches here in July because either you want this 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.960 guy pitching for you in the postseason deep into October, 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:36.800 or yeah, maybe you are going to trade him. But like, 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.960 I don't I don't think that's some like I don't 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:44.440 think we need to act like it's a conspiracy. Yeah, 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:48.520 I don't quite get that. I think if weird ask Aj, 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.680 he'd probably say something effect of like yeah, yeah, yeah, surgery, 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.000 like what two months ago, less than barely two months ago. 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.320 Maybe that's a good theme there, Cody, because the other like, 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:00.960 there is no conspiracy. 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.760 It could be, could be, it could be. 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.400 It could be applied to a lot of things, including 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:10.520 like Tarrek's own motivation all that stuff. And then you 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:12.560 know there's that report out today that he wants to 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.600 remain uh in Detroit. 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:15.000 Uh. 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:16.760 You know, because he thinks, like, hey, you want to 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.639 win some games, and you know, thinks they can have 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:23.080 a run or whatever, uh, which which would be awesome, 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:26.919 but it but like if if he does end up 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.760 getting traded, that doesn't mean there was a conspiracy that 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:32.119 School will like lied about wanting to stay on the 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.600 team and you know, like all these things, right Like, 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:38.160 I think, I think I do genuinely believe Tarrek Schoogle 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.639 wants to win here in Detroit. I also believe that 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:45.400 Trek Schoogle if the if, if the decisions are made 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.960 outside of his own control, he's also gonna embrace whatever 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.680 that opportunity is as well, Right Like, I think all 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.840 these things can be true and they're not conspiratorial. Okay, 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:59.720 So so yeah, I guess that's that's our trade deadline update, 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:01.359 is that Terrek School doesn't want to be traded. 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:05.600 You got any Yeah, that was according to a report 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:10.320 from Bob Nightingale. That was according to schoobl what School 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.440 has told his friends. It's also not clear where that 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:17.080 report originated. It's not in Bob's column. If I'm missing 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.439 where this actually came from, someone send it to me. 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.879 But I'm not even sure this is real. It's very weird. 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:27.160 It's also like we just got to start applaying common sense. 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.360 There are all these little reports that are just kind 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:32.720 of obvious, Oh, a player doesn't want to get traded. 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.719 Not that many players are actively looking to get traded 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.920 in the middle of the season. It's a really stressful 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:40.640 thing to go through. There might be a few guys 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:44.080 who are like truly miserable or something. But like I do, 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.080 I think if Trek Scooble had it his way, the 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.200 Tigers would just start winning some games, and he would 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.720 love to finish out the season here and then he's 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:54.040 probably gonna test free agency. Those two things can coexist, 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.120 believe it or not. That's hard for people to wrap 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.439 their minds around for some reason. Also, like again the 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.919 common sense thing, getting traded kind of sucks, especially when 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.000 you have two kids who are under what two and 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.800 a half years old. You're gonna move your family across 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.400 the country in a blink and live in a hotel 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.720 for a couple of months. Like that's not really ideal 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.800 when you have a young family. You know, like there 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:17.919 are all these other factors that goes into it. So 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:21.240 I believe Trek Scooble would prefer to not get traded. 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:23.680 He's been talking about wanting to make a comeback and 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.000 make a World Series run here with the Tigers, And 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.160 then I'm hearing people like, WHOA, Well, if you really 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.960 wanted to stay here, he would sign an extension, Like, 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.199 I don't know he wants to stay here for the 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:36.760 next couple of months. Is he wants to stay here 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:38.479 for the rest of his life. I don't know. He's 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.879 probably gonna go to whoever pays him the most money, Like, 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:43.920 and that's fine, doesn't That doesn't mean he's like one 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:47.160 foot out the door. I think he is adult enough 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.720 to compartmentalize and again to your point here, and I 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.160 think this guy's not competitive and doesn't want to win, 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:56.639 Like watch him freaking pitch. This dude is intense as 0:19:56.680 --> 0:19:59.480