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Speaker 2: Where is the line on player empowerment and what do

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Speaker 2: we really want for our favorite sports? Because it seems

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Speaker 2: like every time somebody challenges the draft system, there's a

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Speaker 2: reminded that things are really good just the way they are,

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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure that we've really thought through what

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Speaker 2: it would mean if massive change was made. It's a

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Speaker 2: fellaist on Fox Sports Saturday, but it's sort of Bucking Rising,

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Speaker 2: but we don't know what it is. Look, we're always transparent,

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Speaker 2: We're always real with you guys on Saturday mornings, Anthony

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Speaker 2: Gargano's out. Buck Rising is going to be in for

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Speaker 2: Anthony this morning, but we're having some technical difficulties. So

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Speaker 2: right now, while I can see Buck Rising's beautiful face

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Speaker 2: on FaceTime, I can't actually hear his beautiful voice. Shit,

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Speaker 2: we're working on it. We're challenging pre in Mighty Mark

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Speaker 2: early this morning with more work than anybody should ever

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Speaker 2: have to do it this hour, but we will get

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Speaker 2: it figured out in the meantime. I'm Jason fitz we're

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Speaker 2: hanging at you, hanging out with you live from the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. Always appreciate you giving us some

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Speaker 2: time this early on a Saturday. If your Saturday is

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Speaker 2: just starting, let's carpet the heck out of this DM.

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Speaker 2: If you're on the West Coast and you're still out, congratulations,

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Speaker 2: good for you. But in the meantime, Ace Bailey is

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Speaker 2: all over the news. And Ace Bailey, if you miss

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Speaker 2: this is the player that was drafted out of Rutgers

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Speaker 2: this week in the NBA draft that made it clear,

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Speaker 2: according to some, that he did not want to play

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Speaker 2: for certain teams, including the one that drafted him, the

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Speaker 2: Utah Jazz. Now, Utah didn't bring him in for a workout,

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Speaker 2: Utah didn't talk to him one on one, but Utah

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Speaker 2: drafted him, which happens sometimes in the NBA, and it

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Speaker 2: raised all these questions. Well, he made it clear he

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Speaker 2: didn't want to be there, and why are we doing

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Speaker 2: this to players like players should be able to pick

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Speaker 2: where they want to go. Somebody needs to challenge the

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Speaker 2: draft system. And it makes me laugh. It makes me

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Speaker 2: laugh constantly because everybody's out here telling me that the

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Speaker 2: draft system should be check and said, the draft in

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Speaker 2: general doesn't work, and I'm saying why. Look, I get

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Speaker 2: it from a real life standpoint. If you wake up

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Speaker 2: one day and suddenly you walk into work and you

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Speaker 2: sit down at your desk, and you unpack your things

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Speaker 2: You sit down, you wiggle a little bit in your seat,

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Speaker 2: and you're ready to start your day, whether it's making

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Speaker 2: widgets or spreadsheets or talking on radio, and all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, somebody comes up to you and says, sorry, man,

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Speaker 2: you don't work here anymore. You got traded, all right,

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Speaker 2: or sorry, You just graduated from college and you're ready

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Speaker 2: this or that. You want to you want to be

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Speaker 2: an engineer, And instead of getting to choose the company

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Speaker 2: and that's the way your career is going to start. Well,

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Speaker 2: that sucks. That's very true. I can't imagine from a

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Speaker 2: real life standpoint how bad that feels. Honest, with all

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Speaker 2: of that, but that doesn't mean that the way it

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Speaker 2: this to football, because we're going to start hearing about

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Speaker 2: this NonStop. We did with Caleb. Is Caleb Williams gonna

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Speaker 2: force the Bears to not draft him? And then we

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Speaker 2: find out afterwards that they did look at some options. Well,

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Speaker 2: to force his way into certain cities. These are the

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Speaker 2: things that we're gonna do. And there are gonna be

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Speaker 2: plenty of people that tell you that's the right thing

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Speaker 2: to do. I just don't get it. At some point

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Speaker 2: you look at it and you say, okay. So, first

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Speaker 2: and foremost, if you want to legally challenge the draft,

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Speaker 2: that's gonna take years to do, years to do, so

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Speaker 2: somebody's gonna have to decide they simply don't want to

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Speaker 2: step number one. Step number two. When you are drafted,

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Speaker 2: you are joining a collectively bargained association. You are joining

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Speaker 2: it changes the entire collective bargaining process for every teammate

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Speaker 2: But then the other part of it is how much

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Speaker 2: is where I think it gets really dangerous, the concept

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Speaker 2: of saying, you know what, we're going to free market

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Speaker 2: I love the concept to go make your money wherever

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Speaker 2: out there and earn what I deserve. A couple of things, though, again,

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Speaker 2: if you really want to talk, go earn what you're worth,

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Speaker 2: especially in the NBA. Well, how many billions is Lebron worth? Like,

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Speaker 2: at some point, no matter how much Lebron gets paid,

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Speaker 2: So at some point you have to look around and say, okay, well,

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Speaker 2: But the other part of it is every cap that

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Speaker 2: help the owners from themselves. Buck Rising now with us

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Speaker 2: and Buck, I appreciate you hanging out with me early.

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Speaker 2: How do we get here?

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Speaker 3: I was tempted several times by people in my life

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Speaker 4: Know, just power through. What's what? What's the harm?

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Speaker 3: you know what I did, the responsible thing, Fitsie.

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Speaker 4: I took my.

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Speaker 4: Have been up since ten thirty. Because I don't know

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Speaker 3: I know we're not out here digging ditches and we're

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Speaker 4: How are we doing, buddy?

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Speaker 2: I feel bad sometimes for bre and Mighty Mark, who

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Speaker 3: Put them to work already this morning, giving them all

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Speaker 4: I'm so sorry, guys.

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Speaker 2: Violation, that's a violation out of the cakes. You know,

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Speaker 3: But but you know he's good wonder. So here's firing minds.

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Speaker 2: don't care what sport we're talking about, because we're gonna

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Speaker 2: can't control themselves. If we get rid of the draft

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Speaker 2: have and have not. Lifestyle of different owners are across

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Speaker 3: That's what we've just spent a week talking about, FITZI.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much of the dialogue this NFL

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Speaker 3: for Fox. But this is exactly what Jimmy Haslam did

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Speaker 3: to the NFL ownership and handing out a guaranteed contract

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Speaker 3: Beach at the owners meetings and Roger Goodell is reportedly,

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Speaker 3: according to this independent arbitrator, nudging ownership in a direction

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Speaker 3: of like, all right, guys, that was cute the one time.

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Speaker 4: Let's never ever do that again.

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Speaker 3: And of course that has taken us down a whole

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Speaker 3: different rabbit hole. But to your point about the guardrails,

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Speaker 3: it's more about how the athletes are going to navigate

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Speaker 3: this in the modern era as it is, because the

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Speaker 3: owners are going to do their thing. They've done this

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Speaker 2: I feel like I've spent much of my radio career

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Speaker 2: get it. I love player and power. I want guys

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Speaker 2: Get all the damn money. I don't care. Once you're

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Speaker 4: They would like me that way. I couldn't deal with them.

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Speaker 3: They've been miserable for so long anyway, these people would

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Speaker 2: If you start messing with the very thing that gives

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Speaker 2: It's early, but I demand it.

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Speaker 4: I am so not for player and power man, just not.

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Speaker 3: And I'm somebody who covers professional athletes. I'm in a

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Speaker 3: But the sports fan in me didn't care about that.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, why do we care about this collusion thing? Like,

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Speaker 2: Probably he just bit my head off about it. I'm

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Speaker 2: So I think sometimes as much as athletes feel like

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Speaker 2: the fans are out of touch with what they need,

435
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 2: I think sometimes the sports world and the way we

436
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 2: cover sports forgets just general fandom, and general fandom says

437
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,479
Speaker 2: I don't really care what happens as long as I

438
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 2: got Like, if I'm a football fan, I need my

439
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,360
Speaker 2: team to have a great quarterback, pay whatever it takes

440
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 2: to get that quarterback, and everybody else is just basically

441
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 2: somebody that's bringing this thing along, right, So I to

442
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Speaker 2: your point, I don't think most fans are sitting here

443
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,719
Speaker 2: just in general giving a damn about player empowerment one

444
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 2: way or the other. I want everybody to get rich.

445
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 2: I don't want the draft system to change. I think

446
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 2: drafts and gen and this is something we do. Like

447
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 2: I listened to Greene sit there on ESPN over and

448
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 2: over and over again and tell me that the NFL

449
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 2: should implement the NBA's lottery system for the draft, which

450
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 2: is the stupidest damn thing I think Greeney has said

451
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Speaker 2: in years. Because I'm sitting around saying, my god, look

452
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 2: at the viewership for the NFL draft. Look at the

453
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 2: coverage for the NFL Draft, and then look at the

454
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 2: viewership and coverage for every other draft. Like viewership for

455
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Speaker 2: the first round of the NBA Draft. With Cooper Flag

456
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Speaker 2: as the first overall pick, a guy that is generational

457
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 2: in the way that we talk about him, was down

458
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 2: like forty percent from last year. People didn't give it

459
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 2: him because they only know Cooper Flag's name. They didn't

460
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: care about any of the rest of it. So, like

461
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: to me, the draft is a beautiful thing when you

462
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: do it the right way. The NFL does it the

463
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 2: right way. And this is the one spot where I

464
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 2: say screwplayer empowerment, because you have to have hope. You

465
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 2: have to give you have to give fan bases that

466
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 2: have been kicked in the no no polics year in

467
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 2: and year out by their team have to have something

468
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: that gives them some monogram of like this is going

469
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: to change, and that's what the draft provides everybody.

470
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Speaker 3: Oh, just think about the situation you mentioned that I'm

471
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Speaker 3: here in Nashville and I covered the Tennessee Titans for

472
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Speaker 3: a living, and if cam Ward had ended up on

473
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Speaker 3: the New York Giants because of a lottery system as

474
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Speaker 3: opposed to a straight up draft the way that the

475
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Speaker 3: NFL does it, people would have lost their minds. They

476
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Speaker 3: would have said that the system is rigged against small

477
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Speaker 3: market franchises and the NFL just wants to see cam

478
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Speaker 3: Ward play in New York.

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Speaker 4: And that's all probably true, by the way.

480
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Speaker 3: But the NFL draft is specifically designed to avoid those

481
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Speaker 3: kind of things, and and and to.

482
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Speaker 2: Your point, and by the way, real quick on that book. Yeah,

483
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: think about this as a Raiders fan, I'm wildly excited

484
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Speaker 2: that we drafted Ashtroon Genty, right I say we. I

485
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: don't give it na what anyone, So I say we

486
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Speaker 2: drafted Ashtroon Genty if we were supposed to have the

487
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Speaker 2: first overall pick and because of a lottery system, we

488
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Speaker 2: got stuck with the sixth overall pick, and then drafted

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Speaker 2: Ashtroon Genty. The rementment I would feel towards a player

490
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Speaker 2: that right now, I'm very excited about. I just think

491
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Speaker 2: we have to You've taken, you've taken in tremendous positive

492
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: and you've turned it into hot garbage by doing those

493
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 2: sorts of like trickery things that mean nothing towards what

494
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Speaker 2: should actually happen in a draft.

495
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Speaker 3: Go ahead, No, it's it's just I think it's speaking

496
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Speaker 3: to the larger point in I use my I use

497
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Speaker 3: the guys that work on my local show here in

498
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Speaker 3: Nashville as kind of a barometer for what the what

499
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Speaker 3: the audience actually cares about. Because I can't see the audience,

500
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 3: but I can see them. So when I may I

501
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 3: say the word arbitration, and I see the entire collective

502
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 3: back room their eyes plays over and then put their

503
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 3: heads down in their phones. I realize, Oh, they don't

504
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 3: really care about this, because to your point, it does

505
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 3: not impact how the football is played on Sundays. Again,

506
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 3: for the players, it is a complete It is the

507
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 3: biggest story in the NFL for the players. It is

508
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 3: the biggest story in sports for the players. But the

509
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 3: players are not the vast majority of people consuming this stuff.

510
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 3: And while it is incoming upon the players to take

511
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: matters into their own hands to set as much right

512
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: as they can with the NFLPA, who is also as

513
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: big a part of this. That's the thing. That's the

514
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Speaker 3: only place that I would try to relate it to

515
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 3: the audience here in any of this stuff is if

516
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 3: you worked at a corporation or even a locally owned business,

517
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 3: and you felt that that corporation or that locally owned business,

518
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Speaker 3: the powers that be, the heads of state that run

519
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 3: your company, were actively conspiring to hold your money down.

520
00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 4: In whatever you.

521
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Speaker 3: Do for a living, be you a plumber, a sports

522
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 3: talk radio host, a journalist, you know, a firefighter, whatever

523
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 3: the case.

524
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 4: May be, you would lose your absolute, ever loving mind.

525
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Speaker 3: That's where NFL players are at, which is why I

526
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 3: think the NFL players are responding to that kind of

527
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 3: to that story the way that they are. And Mike Florio,

528
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: who deals with players and deals with agents and this

529
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 3: is very much a part of his world, Pablo Torri

530
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 3: the same. They're both well respected journalists who do an

531
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 3: excellent job, and they think this story demands more coverage,

532
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 3: and it probably does from the major media networks. But

533
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 3: the audience audience doesn't give a damn. Audience didn't give

534
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Speaker 3: a damn, So why should the networks capitulate for the

535
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 3: audiences who don't give a damn? Other than the It's

536
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 3: an easy accusation to make, and largely a fair one.

537
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: You know, the networks are in bed with their sports

538
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: rights partners to keep this story that would be unflattering

539
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 3: for the leagues out of the news cycle and let's

540
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 3: just keep it all moving, huh.

541
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Speaker 2: I Mean. The funny part about that is that I Man,

542
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: I worked at the mothership for what six years and

543
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 2: now Yahoo and Fox Sports Radio. I never once, ever,

544
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: in my entire time, as hard as this is for

545
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: people to believe, I never once had anybody, any executive,

546
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: any person of power in any way come into ESPN

547
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: and tell me what I could or could not talk about. Ever.

548
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: The only time that it came up, and this is

549
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 2: a specific example I've used several times. When the Denver

550
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: Nuggets were about to go on a championship run and

551
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: I was doing daily radio at the time on ESPN

552
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: Monday through Friday. In the middle of the day, we

553
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: went to our bosses, our producers and our bosses at

554
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 2: radio and we said, hey, man, the Nuggets look really good.

555
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 2: Should we start getting Nuggets guests on? And they laughed us,

556
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 2: it at us, and they said, the audience doesn't care

557
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: about the Nuggets. So yeah, Does ESPN sit there and

558
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 2: ask what does the broadest set of the audience care about? Yes,

559
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: most media companies do that. There's a reason why at Yahoo.

560
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: It took two seconds from us to realize that we

561
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: needed to start including as much Schador as Sanders and

562
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: as much Dion from Colorado as possible when that Colorado

563
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 2: football team started to blow up an attention like metrics

564
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: are studied, yes, but I never once, ever, even when

565
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: we were sitting there talking about things like Tamar Hamlin,

566
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: no one for me ESPN never came in and said, guys,

567
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: we really need to be sensitive about this with our

568
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 2: partnership with the NFL. Like it just doesn't fans believe

569
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: that everybody sits behind this like evil maniacal laugh and

570
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: like life is way simpler than most people want to

571
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: make it. And to that point, I mean, your comparison

572
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: is a great one of you know how frustrated any

573
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: person would be if they felt their their boss was

574
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 2: colluding against them. But also how different is every person's

575
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: life If the minute you walk into your company, you

576
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: know what every person to your left, in your right makes,

577
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: like just just at its core, if you walked in

578
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: today to work at Google or to work at you know,

579
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: an autobody store, and you know what the guy next

580
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: to you and everybody talks about it, and it's covered

581
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: in every single way like that changes so much of

582
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 2: the world. So and look, by the way, not for nothing,

583
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: I support that. I think everybody should know what everybody makes.

584
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: If we're gonna sit here and tchied employee or athletes

585
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: constantly for how much money they want. I literally it

586
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: would be awesome if when I walked up to a

587
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: cash register at the local grocery store on their vest

588
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: and just said what they make per hour, like all right, cool,

589
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: get on it, let's go. Let's go, like put your

590
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: your annual earnings from last year on literally on every person.

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Speaker 4: There's not a single solitary.

592
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Speaker 2: How we treat every athlete.

593
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Speaker 3: Every athlete I completely understand, But I mean, how much

594
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: good does that do them where people are constantly using

595
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: that as a tool against them if they don't produce,

596
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 3: and that's the part they are in the production business, right,

597
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: But I think that that's that that's a very fine

598
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: line that that athletes, that people in the that people

599
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: in the public sector have to deal with, whether they

600
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 3: whether they be movie stars or professional athletes or things

601
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: like that, where just the sheer amount of money that

602
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 3: they're making is so much that you almost have to

603
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 3: disclose it. In this setting, and it's and it's an

604
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 3: easy thing for us to sit back here and play

605
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: armchair GM in our favorite sport and understand the kind

606
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: of things that we have access to because we've never

607
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 3: had more access to the information. But getting back to

608
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: the draft thing that you brought up FITSI and the

609
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: way that it the way that its structured. I guess

610
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: for athletes, the primary complaint on that would be, well,

611
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: what if you and I got drafted to, you know,

612
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: cover the Jacksonville Jaguars or something like that, or the

613
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 3: Utah Jazz just sent into sports mediocrity in a place

614
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: that we didn't want to work, and we could do

615
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 3: the job, and we would do the job well enough,

616
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 3: and we would perform, and if we performed well enough,

617
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: then maybe we'd get called up to a better market

618
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: or a more a team with more notoriety that would

619
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: alter benefit our careers. Which is kind of the situation,

620
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: which is the situation that professional athletes are in. But

621
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: to your point, I just don't know what is the

622
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: solution if not the draft. If people are going to

623
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: talk about dismantling the draft process or bringing the lottery

624
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: to the NFL or all these other things, are they

625
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: just saying that stuff out loud to try and manifest

626
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: something different, because they're currently not satisfied with an imperfect system,

627
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: but a system that functions at a high enough level

628
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: that allows us to accomplish all of these things at

629
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Speaker 3: a relatively efficient pace.

630
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Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day, I think

631
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 2: what people are doing is they're talking about things that

632
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: sound fun without any concept to what it would actually

633
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: take to execute that same plan. A million times I

634
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: die on this hill. When you are drafted, you are

635
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: joining a union, a collectively bargained union, and that's like, Look,

636
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: I've been part of them. I've been part of sag Aftra,

637
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: I've been part of the American Federation Musicians. I understand unions.

638
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: Right when you are drafted, you are part you are

639
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: becoming part of a union. So you're not just challenging

640
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: the draft system from an ownership standpoint. You're challenging the

641
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: draft system from a union standpoint. Before you've ever stepped

642
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: foot on the court or on a field, you are

643
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: basically telling the people that are about to be your

644
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: union brothers and sisters that their deal negotiated doesn't apply

645
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: to you. That's a very difficult sales pitch to go down,

646
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 2: and frankly, I think the amount of time it would take,

647
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: the amount of career loss it would take. Yes, there

648
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: are going to be the occasional Eli Mannings that are

649
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: going to come in and say I'm simply not going

650
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: to play there, and that will occasionally affect things, But

651
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: there's a massive difference between that and simply getting rid

652
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: of the draft system all together. There's there's every every

653
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: generation has one. There was a John l. Way, there

654
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: was an Eli Manning. I think Eli Manning was made

655
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Speaker 2: a little easier by the fact that there was a

656
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers, like they could negotiate a trade with I.

657
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: I just think we do this all the time and say, well,

658
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: who's going to be the person that challenges it without

659
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: really sitting down and saying what will it cost, what

660
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: will it take, how many years of their career will

661
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: it take out of them, what will it mean for

662
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: when they actually finally get into the league, what version

663
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 2: of a pain in the ass is any of that worth?

664
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: Like those are all real conversations that when you put

665
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: a pen to paper you realize that's a little like saying,

666
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: you know what, buckold, my friend, you should live in

667
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: a four million dollar house on Lower broad There we go.

668
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: I've said it, and therefore it should just happen for you.

669
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: Good sir, like that. There's no concept of execution to it.

670
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fine.

671
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 3: I mean the execution is the execution may not be

672
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 3: as difficult as you think. We can manifest this thing

673
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: into existence, FITZI, I would like a four million dollar

674
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: help four million although I don't know I got I

675
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: got in it. Every time I think about buying a

676
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: new house after I bought mine a couple of years ago,

677
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 3: I just look at interest rates, which is all anybody

678
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: wants to hear on Fox Sports Radio this morning, and

679
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 3: I just recoil it what it might actually cost to

680
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: buy a new house at this point in my life.

681
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 4: That's why.

682
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: That's that's it's It's a beautiful world that we live in.

683
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: That's all I have to say about that. All right?

684
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: Is it speaking? Give me your thoughts on that I need?

685
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: Is it too early to drink? I don't know. Okay,

686
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: Look here's what I know. I know that Cooper Flag

687
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: was the big story of the NBA Draft and the

688
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: big story of the week. The question is what difference

689
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: does it actually make we'll figure it out next. He's

690
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: Buck Rising in for Anthony Gargano. I'm Jason Fitz with

691
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: a fellas hanging out with you on a Fox Sports

692
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: Saturday on Fox Sports Radio. Is the entire NBA Draft fixed?

693
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: Is it all just for nothing? Cooper Flag is a

694
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: Dallas Dallas maverick and the world is screaming it's unfair

695
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: and it's all rigged, and it just sort of makes

696
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: me laugh. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason fitzbucks in for

697
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: Anthony Gargano. It's a Fellas. It's kind of a you know,

698
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: bucking fits takeover of the Fellaws on Fox Sports Radio.

699
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: Be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube

700
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: channel a ton of great videos from a ton of

701
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Speaker 2: our shows. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll

702
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: see whole bunch of video highlights from all the shows,

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Speaker 2: and be sure to subscribe to you always have instant

704
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 2: access to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Buck. Okay,

705
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 2: so you know, Buck and I have been friends for

706
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: what ten years? At this point? You know me very well, dude,

707
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: I really really I think conspiracy theories are one of

708
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 2: the funniest things in our society because you can convince

709
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: a conspiracy theorist of another conspiracy theory incredibly easy. All

710
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: you have to do is say it, and they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

711
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: But you could come in with books of facts. You

712
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: cannot convince conspiracy theorists of a single fact, but you

713
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: give them another full blown conspiracy theory. So like now,

714
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: the theory is well. The League wanted Luca to go

715
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 2: to the Lakers, so they told the MAVs as long

716
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: as they traded him to the Lakers, that the MAVs

717
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: would be guaranteed the first overall pick and the lottery,

718
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: which would get them Cooper Flag and they would basically

719
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: get their next superstar. Are you buying any of that?

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00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: No, No, not.

721
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: Even a little bit.

722
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: Although I am delighted by the idea of just trying

723
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 3: to convince a conspiracy theorist of just any single fact,

724
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: no matter how minuscule that fact is, and them recoiling

725
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: at the idea of it, while you know, going down

726
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 3: what sixteen different rabbit holes on Helen Keller or the

727
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 3: NBA Draft lottery or any other things that are out

728
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 3: there with conspiracy theories floating around them. At this point

729
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: in time, the only thing that I am willing to

730
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: entertain is the NBA draft lottery conspiracy about the MAVs

731
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: ending up with the number one overall pick, because I

732
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: think that's nonsense. I don't for if for no other reason,

733
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 3: FITSI that franchise. I don't like to fire people unnecessarily

734
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: Nico Harrison getting to the podium after they drafted Cooper

735
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: Flag and saying fortune favors Bold. I know Brie has

736
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: some audio back there at some point that we could

737
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: get to, but like I have never felt the need

738
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: to go on a an on air tirade against a

739
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: professional sports executive more in my life.

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Speaker 4: Because you don't deserve that number one pick.

741
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 3: You don't deserve to be chesty about a situation that

742
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 3: you up and down botched. You look thoroughly incompetent, and

743
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 3: even if you are just the fall guy for your

744
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: incompetent ownership, Please please get up there at a post

745
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 3: draft press conference and act.

746
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 4: Like you are the one who did something right here. Please,

747
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 4: I'm begging you so that.

748
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: That conspiracy theory, the idea that the NBA said, all right,

749
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 3: the MAVs have botched this royally up and down, let's

750
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: see what we can salvage. As far as that market

751
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 3: and as far as that fan base by giving them

752
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: Cooper flag and the number one overall pick. Where you know,

753
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: what's the seventy six ers GM's.

754
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 4: Name, Darryl Morey.

755
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 3: Daryl Morey is dropping his head into his hands on

756
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 3: the lottery night because the Sixers ended up blanding third,

757
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: because nobody thinks the MAVs should have ended up with

758
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: the number one overall pick, which is again why the

759
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: draft lottery stuff in any sport is flawed.

760
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: But that's why, Like I live by the phrase it's

761
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 2: better to be lucky than good, Like why can't the

762
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: MAVs just be lucky? Like are we really gonna believe.

763
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 4: This is the time so to serve to fixed?

764
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: He bleeped that, no, I'm not interested in that. It's

765
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 3: better to be lucky than good. If the people getting

766
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: lucky are thoroughly incompetent, well.

767
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: Usually they are, Like I mean, it's usually the look

768
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 2: the person driving like a maniac on the road gets

769
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: lucky more often than the person that it Like, that's

770
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: just the way life goes. It doesn't favor the bowld,

771
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: it favors the stupid more often than not. Like why

772
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: this one? Why so we want to believe in this

773
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: situation that Wemby, Like, no, the league didn't fix it

774
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: for Wemby, that's fine, Like they were happy with them

775
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 2: going to San Antonio. The league didn't fix it for Zion.

776
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: They were good with Zion going to the Pelicans, Like,

777
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: but no, Cooper flag is than all of those because

778
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: they wanted to get Luca to the Lakers that badly

779
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 2: the same league, I know, different commissioner at the time,

780
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: but the same league that didn't allow the Chris Paul

781
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: trade to go over to the Lakers at the time. Like, look,

782
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: there's just no they don't need to do it, they

783
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: don't have to do it, Like we just watched Oklahoma

784
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: City in Indiana play for an NBA championship, Like there's

785
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: just no if you are in the NBA, between the

786
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: profit sharing that goes on, between the way that the

787
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: league makes money, between the media deals, like there's no

788
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: reason to fix any of it. There's no reason to

789
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 2: take the risk. And then we only do this every

790
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 2: once in a while, Like Patrick, Union couldn't have just

791
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: been you know, the Knicks couldn't have just won. The

792
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: lottery had to be rigged, Like it's stupid that we

793
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: pick and choose these battles.

794
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 3: No, that's the fun of fandom though fitsy, And I'm

795
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 3: not saying that I believe it.

796
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that's.

797
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 3: The one that I'm willing to entertain because just because

798
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: I'm so thoroughly disgusted by the entire Nico Harrison experience,

799
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 3: like that, that person does not deserve a job in

800
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: professional basketball based on the way that he's handled this situation,

801
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: and to see somebody like that rewarded, I'm willing to

802
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 3: believe anything other than, Oh, that guy got lucky, and

803
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: he's terrible at his job, and he's probably gonna get

804
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: fired by the end of the season anyway, So what

805
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: does any of this matter. It's that kind of thing

806
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 3: that irks me about the NBA, and I think one

807
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 3: of the things that works to the league's detriment. You

808
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 3: shouldn't be able to get lucky like that. It should

809
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: be sports is the ultimate meritocracy, is it not, Or

810
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: at least that's what we're led to believe in a

811
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: lot of these situations. So we're not going to hold

812
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 3: the executives and the franchises to the same standard.

813
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 4: That we hold the athletes. I think that's complete and total.

814
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 5: Bowl.

815
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: We're also moving the goalposts because when Luca was traded,

816
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: it was well, the new ownership group of the MAVs

817
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: wants to move the team to a different city. That

818
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: was the conspiracy theory around why they would do it.

819
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: So now you're telling me that they needed to get

820
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: rid of the start to suck so much that they

821
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: could justify moving out of Dallas. But they were just

822
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: given a star by the NBA for that same move. Like,

823
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 2: the great thing about conspiracy theorist is that they could

824
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 2: just replace one with another and they're never held accountable

825
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: to the bad takes along the way. It's it's a

826
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,959
Speaker 2: wild part of the process, but the most important part

827
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: of this, for everything, for all of this conversation, for

828
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: all of the love that we are giving the Dallas

829
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 2: Mavericks and Cooper Flag, I don't really think it's gonna

830
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: matter in the end. I'll tell you why. Next. He's

831
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 2: Buck Rising. I'm Jason fitz We're in on Fox Sports Radio.

832
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

833
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: If you believe that the NBA fixed their entire draft

834
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: to make sure that Cooper Flagg ended up with Dallas

835
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: Maverick you forgot one important thing. None of it really matters.

836
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 2: He's buck Rising. I'm Jason fitz Bucket fits taking over

837
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: the fellas. Anthony Gargano's got the weekend off much deserved,

838
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: and I'm just a beacon of light in the dark,

839
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: dark world? Is that tell you? Early on Saturday morning?

840
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 3: Why do you do this to people? No matter what

841
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: the conversation is? Oh, next, fans they saw enjoy hosting

842
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: home playoff games at Matterson Square guard.

843
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 4: But let me tell you why it doesn't matter. Next.

844
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: It's just I mean you, you find a way to

845
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: urinate on the joy. You are the happiest, most pessimistic

846
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 3: human being I know when it comes to working in

847
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 3: this business.

848
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: No, no, not like so, I'm not pessimistic at all.

849
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 2: I'm the eternal realist, which is what pessimistic people say.

850
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: I get that, like, No, hear me out, Like I think.

851
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: At my core, if you're having to explain it away

852
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: this much, there's probably.

853
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 4: More truth to it than you want to acknowledge.

854
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: Okay, So I shout out to my buddy Mikey. All right,

855
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 2: my buddy Mikey was in a National Guy. Mikey was

856
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: in a bar one night and everything that happened he

857
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: was just sort of complaining about and somebody looked at

858
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: him and was like, are you ever happy? And he's like,

859
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: you know what. At my core, I'm a complainer. That's

860
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: what I do. I complain with those things. It's just

861
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: part of William and I love the self awareness of it.

862
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: I have always been my entire life a yeah but guy,

863
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: like I'll buy that, But have you thought of this? Like,

864
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: no matter how somebody builds a castle, I'm the person

865
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: that's like, it's fine. It's just like if somebody is

866
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: particularly negative, I'm the person that comes in and says, yeah,

867
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: but things could be worse. If somebody's particularly positive, I'm like, yeah,

868
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: but you gotta look out for this. Like I'm a

869
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 2: yeah buck. That's who I am, and and all of them.

870
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: And by the way, I think when we were working together,

871
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: and you are the aforementioned Nicks, I think my comment

872
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: to you was, last time I checked, they don't raise

873
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: banners for second round wins. Turns out, guess what, I

874
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: don't think they're raising a banner at the garden for that.

875
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 4: So I'm just saying, buddy, that a coach.

876
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 3: Can't fight a banner they can't fight a coach after

877
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: they fired tips, which I'm sure we're gonna get to

878
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 3: at some point today.

879
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: And well, if we get to it, it'll be faster

880
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: than anybody else gets to figure out who their coach

881
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: is gonna be. But hear me out, all right, So

882
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: look at the list I've got in front of me.

883
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm gonna give you some first overall picks

884
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: that were, you know, relatively big names in the process

885
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: of what was expected of them coming into the draft,

886
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: and you just tell me how much of a championship

887
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 2: difference it made. All right, let's go all the way

888
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: back to, all right, Anthony Davis in twenty twelve, so

889
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: that's a long time ago. I'd say Anthony Davis made

890
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 2: a substantial difference. Kyrie Irving made a substantial difference. Those

891
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: are good examples. But the flip side of that is

892
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: like Anthony Bennett, Andrew Wiggins, Karl Anthony Towns, like his

893
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 2: Kat you know, at this point widely regarded as somebody

894
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: that brings championships to wherever he goes. Ben Simmons, Markel Foltz,

895
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 2: DeAndre Aiden, Zion Williamson. So I was at the shoe

896
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: explosion game in Cameron and everybody saying, oh, zion Z

897
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: He's gonna win so much. Anthony Edwards. Sure, it's resulted

898
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 2: in a massive turnaround. Caid Cunningham, Paulo, but Carol, Victor

899
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: Wembin Yama.

900
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: Now why you're sleeping on those the second and third

901
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: to last players that you name there, because Caid Cunningham

902
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 3: in Detroit is going to end up being a difference

903
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: making type of player. I know that they're just on

904
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: the come up, but didn't they fincy. They went from

905
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: like fourteen wins last year to forty four this year?

906
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 3: Caid comedy. Caid Cunningham is legit.

907
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 2: I believe he's a legit player, and I believe Paulo's

908
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: is going to be a legit player.

909
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 3: Now you made a face like you smelled something bad

910
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 3: because you couldn't say no.

911
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, look, I believe they're going to be good players.

912
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: Are they going to result in championships for the city

913
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: that they were drafted in? See that that's the like

914
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: the the NBA is what the NBA is. At some

915
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: point I'm looking up and down the list. This isn't

916
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: the NFL where you have the first overall pick at

917
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 2: a quarterback and you feel like suddenly you have hope.

918
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 2: By the way, I would argue that many of the

919
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that we discuss every single day in the NFL

920
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: same thing. We're like, oh my god, you gotta have

921
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: the first overall pick to get cam Ward. Well, I mean,

922
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes wasn't the first overall pick. Josh Allen wasn't

923
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 2: the first overall pick. Justin Herbert wasn't the first overall pick.

924
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson wasn't the first overall pick. Jalen Hurst wasn't

925
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: the first overall pick. Like this goes, this is what

926
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: we do up. Whoever the first overall pick in the

927
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: draft is as being a franchise saver. And I'm just asking,

928
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 2: over the course of the last twenty five years, what

929
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: maybe three guys have actually been franchise savers for the

930
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 2: franchise that they were drafted by.

931
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 4: Maybe well, and that's the key point five.

932
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 3: The franchise that drafted them is the key point, right,

933
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: because these guys are capable. I mean, we're just to

934
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: you know, make an NFL comparison. We're looking at quarterback

935
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: rehabilitation almost on an annual basis at this point where

936
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: guys can go elsewhere after they struggle, because usually they're

937
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: going as as is the case, and I know the

938
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 3: draft lottery in the NHL and the NBA can can

939
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 3: mitigate some of this, but more often than not, you're

940
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: going to one of the stinkier teams in that respective sport.

941
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 4: You're gonna have a lot of work to do.

942
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: Stinkier. Stinkier is just such a good word from you.

943
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 4: Go ahead there is you know, it's pretty stinky.

944
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 3: There's a listen as somebody who covers a stinky team

945
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 3: for a living, like a lot of stitch coming out

946
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: of Nashville.

947
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 4: Tennessee these last couple of years there, Bud.

948
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: But I think that when you talk about basketball specifically,

949
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: it's an easier conversation to happen.

950
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 4: Now.

951
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: That list of names that you just ran through is

952
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 3: a good reminder of it's still not as seamless as

953
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: we want to make it in our heads, but it

954
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 3: is still more effective, I would argue, than the number

955
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 3: one overall pick in the NFL draft, because I mean,

956
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: let me just put this within the purview of the

957
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 3: division that I work in the AFC South, where it's

958
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 3: the Titans, it's the Colts, it's the Texans, and it's

959
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: the Jags. If I gave you cam Ward C. J. Stroud,

960
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 3: and Trevor Lawrence, they're all coming out of college at

961
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: the same time.

962
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 4: They're all in the same draft class.

963
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 3: Which one of those quarterbacks as prospects would you make

964
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 3: the number one overall pick?

965
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence not even close?

966
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 4: Full stop, and he is.

967
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 3: They're still trying to figure out if they can hit

968
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: on Trevor Lawrence to the point.

969
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 4: Where he's been through two coaches now.

970
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 3: He's having to be banking a lot on Liam Cohen

971
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 3: being able to get the most out of him.

972
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 4: And he's already on a second contract. Yeah and done.

973
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence is the most underperforming player relative to expectation

974
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: in the NFL right now. Those guys don't make a

975
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 3: difference that way. Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback I've

976
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 3: ever seen. Not the greatest winner for those of you

977
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 3: who want to argue rings versus ability in all those

978
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 3: different things. That's still Tom Brady. But the greatest quarterback,

979
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 3: the best quarterback I've ever seen is Patrick Mahomes. And

980
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: he got swamped in the Super Bowl because he wasn't

981
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: on the best team. The team building strategy here is

982
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 3: so much more important. We as a society, as a

983
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 3: sports consuming society, FITSI. We overvalue the first round of

984
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 3: any of these drafts so much because they're the easiest

985
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 3: players to talk about, they're the most famous names, when

986
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 3: the reality of the situation is your roster is mostly

987
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 3: built through the belly of the draft the vet. You

988
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: could argue that Day two and Day three in the

989
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 3: NFL draft are more important than Day one. Even if

990
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 3: you're getting the more or more impactful, more famous, most

991
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: important player at the most important position in that first round,

992
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean anything if you don't get him proper

993
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 3: wide receiver help, if he doesn't have interior offensive line

994
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: play that can keep him up right against you know,

995
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 3: the Jeffrey Simmons and the Dexter Lawrences of the world,

996
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 3: and things like that, Chris Jones out there trying to

997
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 3: chew on his spine like the bearon The Revenant, and

998
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: Leo DiCaprio, these kind of things like this is this

999
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 3: is something that is so quick for or so easy

1000
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: for sports fans to ignore until they realize, oh, I've got.

1001
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 4: One good player, but the rest of my roster sucks.

1002
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: There is this moment for me where I'll go back

1003
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: to Luca being drafted and I you know, I was

1004
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: hosting sports on on Snapchat that year, we had just

1005
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 2: launched it, and when I first started the we did

1006
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: rips every night on Luca in Europe. And look, I'll

1007
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: be honest, I knew nothing about him when I started,

1008
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 2: and all the basketball heads on that show said, no, no, no,

1009
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: this guy's this kid's going to be the top pick

1010
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: in the draft. Absolutely, we're gonna put rips in for

1011
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: him all the time. So by the time we got

1012
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: to the NBA Draft, I actually knew more about Luca

1013
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: than probably any other prospect. And I got into debates

1014
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 2: at the time with my co host city ESPN about

1015
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 2: you know, Lucas should be number one, Lucas should be

1016
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: number one. Well he wasn't. He was number two, right,

1017
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: He went number two for what, Like for all of

1018
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: this conversation, the second overall pick in the draft is

1019
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: now going to do whatever he does for the rest

1020
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: of his career for the Lakers. Like we talk about

1021
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 2: how broken the NFL is when it's convenient to talk

1022
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: about how broken the NFL is, but the fact of

1023
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: the matter is the NFL, by virtue of your contract

1024
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: as a first round pick, holds your right for least

1025
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 2: the first five years, plus if they want to franchise

1026
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 2: you an extra year after that. So six years, which

1027
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: is six years in the NFL, to me, is like

1028
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: twelve years in the NBA. They hold your rights for

1029
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: so long that if you are worth the damn you

1030
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: are actually going to play the majority of your meaningful

1031
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: snaps for the team that you and that's just not

1032
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: the case in the NBA. You can't bank on that.

1033
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: So what you end up with is these real conversations.

1034
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: And look, sometimes it's it's guys like Zion that just

1035
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: never click to the way that people think that Zion

1036
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: should click. Sometimes it's John Morant where things get really

1037
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: complicated for reasons other than basketball. All over the place.

1038
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: For a number two overall pick, there are there are

1039
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 2: mitigating factors that change the success of the failure. But

1040
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: the fact is, if I'm just looking up and down

1041
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: this list and I'm saying, okay, of the like, who

1042
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 2: was the guy that everybody said, yeah, that's gonna like,

1043
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: are we really going to sit here with revisionist history

1044
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 2: and pretend that in twenty twenty, everybody knew that Anthony

1045
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: Edwards was about to become Anthony Edwards, because I don't

1046
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 2: remember the conversation being that way about Anthony Edwards. In fact,

1047
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: the conversation about Anthony Edwards was nowhere near what it

1048
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: was about Zion the year before that, Like the number

1049
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: of times that we've actually been obsessed with a first

1050
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: overall pick and then been right about that first overall

1051
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: pick and then what that first overall pick win championships

1052
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 2: at the place that he was drafted, Like at this point,

1053
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 2: you put all those bricks together, it's where to build

1054
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 2: a wall?

1055
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 4: Who just won the NBA Championship?

1056
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: Uh? I you tell me, I don't want to bring

1057
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: this up for you? Are you okay? Like do we

1058
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 2: need a hug?

1059
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 4: No? I'm not well.

1060
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: In fact, I think you're very kind to check in

1061
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 3: on me either at the course of that, because I could,

1062
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I have anty I haven't. You just

1063
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: brought up so many feelings. That was not the path

1064
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: that I was going down here. But I am once

1065
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 3: again made miserable by the idea of watching my basketball

1066
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: team flounder in Game seven the way that they did.

1067
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 4: But the Oklahoma City Thunder did win.

1068
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: The NBA Champion Championship, and they are you know, for

1069
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 3: as bitter as I am about it, and for as

1070
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: miserable as I am about that Tyrese Haliburton injury and

1071
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle's decision to let him play through that injury

1072
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 3: even knowing what the history of that injury and trying

1073
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 3: to work through that injury is. Like, Oklahoma City is

1074
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 3: a worthy champion, But what makes them a worthy champion?

1075
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 3: Why were they the best team in the regular season,

1076
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 3: not just in the postseason this year? They're the best

1077
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 3: roster construction. You have Sam Presty, who is as unherald

1078
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 3: I mean, Sam Presty's been doing this for a long

1079
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: enough period of time that people know that he's excellent, right,

1080
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 3: but this is his first championship. But the way that

1081
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: that roster is constructed, where you're getting I mean, you're

1082
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 3: getting guys like Jalen Williams who are coming in here

1083
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 3: and making a huge impact and you know, potentially have

1084
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 3: their star turn maybe did have their star turn in

1085
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 3: the playoffs. Beyond his lack of experience in drinking alcohol,

1086
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 3: which I thought was a funny story to chronicle after

1087
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 3: the fact, but the Oklahoma City has them everywhere. What

1088
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 3: was the biggest difference between the Pacers and the Thunder

1089
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: in that final game?

1090
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 4: Seven?

1091
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 3: TJ McConnell, White Lightning is out there trying to will

1092
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: the Pacers to a win from basically eight and a

1093
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 3: half minutes in the third quarter for the rest of

1094
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 3: the game because nobody else can get a shot.

1095
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 4: Nobody else is able to.

1096
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 3: Step up in that spot because Tyree's Halliburton the club.

1097
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 3: You can debate the level of star power that Halliburton

1098
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: brings versus other NBA stars.

1099
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 4: In the league. I'm not here to do that conversation,

1100
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 4: though we can if you want to.

1101
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 3: Halliburton is the closest thing that they have to a

1102
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 3: true blue NBA star nowhere to be found. So nim

1103
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 3: Hard and Nie Smith and Miles Turner and all these

1104
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: other role players are struggling to produce when Oklahoma City

1105
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 3: can run, you know what, seven eight off the bench

1106
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 3: at that point and feel like you can find legitimate

1107
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 3: contributors at every level of that roster. And I'm not

1108
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: saying that that's the easiest thing to do. And it's

1109
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 3: why Sam Presty is excellent at what he does. But

1110
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 3: to your point, so long have we talked ourselves into

1111
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 3: the idea of the NBA being the league or the

1112
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 3: sport that you can have one player make the most

1113
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: amount of difference. But I just don't feel like it's

1114
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: been that way in quite some time.

1115
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, Halliburton not the first overall pick. SGA,

1116
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: the MVP of the league, was traded on draft night

1117
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: by Charlotte, the same team that traded Kobe on Draft night.

1118
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: But SGA traded to the Clippers and then traded again

1119
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: the eleventh overall pick. Last time I checked, Jokic not

1120
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 2: the first overall pick, Jannisnta Takumpo not the first overall pick,

1121
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: like the list goes on, and even Jason Tatum third overall,

1122
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 2: like he was at least high. But the list goes

1123
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: on and on, and it's the reason that we are

1124
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: overblowing this. That being said, maybe maybe everybody else needs

1125
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: to take one particular note from the NFL about drafts,

1126
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 2: because there was something last night that blew my mind

1127
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 2: and is absolutely wrong with the sport. We'll tell you

1128
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: about it next. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitzwor hanging

1129
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: out with you. On the Fellas on Fox Sports Radio. Hi,

1130
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 2: this is Jay.

1131
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 5: I'm the producer of the Paula and Tony Fusco Show.

1132
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 5: Usually in these promos they asked you to listen to

1133
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 5: the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen

1134
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 5: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who

1135
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 5: have the dumbest takes on sports, imagicable. Don't listen to

1136
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 5: the show so it can get camp get him.

1137
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 2: Ignore that fool.

1138
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 6: Listen to the Tony Fusco Show on the iHeart Radio

1139
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 6: app or wherever you get your.

1140
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 2: He's still moving.

1141
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,200
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1142
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 7: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

1143
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 7: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

1144
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 7: listen live.

1145
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: So Fellas hanging out on a Fox Sports Saturday on

1146
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Anthony Gargano getting a much deserved Saturday off.

1147
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 2: Fuck rising in for him. I'm Jason Fitz, so it's

1148
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 2: a bucking Fitz takeover of the Fellas. I'm sitting at

1149
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 2: a bar. Last night, I went to a minor league

1150
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: baseball game up here in Hartford. Shout out to the Yardgoats. Yardgoats,

1151
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 2: one of the top attendances in all of minor league baseball.

1152
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 2: Baseball is in Connecticut, massively popular. Yard Gooats do a

1153
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 2: great job. Duncan Duncan Park is incredible. It's just a

1154
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 2: great place to go hang out. So beautiful night in Hartford.

1155
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 2: Went to a minor league baseball game, and afterwards I

1156
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,479
Speaker 2: met up with a couple of buddies at a little

1157
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 2: Irish pub right down the road from him that has

1158
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: my non alcoholic guinness. Because, humble brag, I'm still not drinking,

1159
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: so I walked into the bar so billy up to

1160
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: get my na guinness, which tastes spectacular.

1161
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 4: By the way, Wall just just stop, okay, what what?

1162
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: Why?

1163
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 3: I am fully supportive of your non alcoholic journey. We

1164
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 3: could all take a lesson from Jason Fitz's health journey,

1165
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 3: as as Bree just pointed out to me in the

1166
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 3: commercial break.

1167
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 4: For as much money as I'm.

1168
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: Spend spending on health and wellness, I should have a

1169
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 3: six pack, but I don't.

1170
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 4: And you know I could probably stay.

1171
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: You have a social life. You have a social life.

1172
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 2: I don't.

1173
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 3: Well that's because I'm downing a gallon of tequila soda

1174
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 3: to balance out the health and wellness journey that I'm

1175
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 3: trying to stay on. I can't imagine of all the

1176
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 3: options for you to select if you are drinking non

1177
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 3: alcoholic beverages Guinness, Why do you want a non alcoholic

1178
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 3: beer that you have to cut with a fork.

1179
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:53,959
Speaker 4: And a knife because it's so thick.

1180
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: That's discussing because it's very like I don't think there's

1181
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: any discernible taste difference between a regular Guinness and a

1182
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: non alcoholic Guinness. So I walked into an Irish bar

1183
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: they have the non alcoholic Guinness tastes the same as

1184
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 2: a Guinness. It's like it's like a trigger in.

1185
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 3: Your mind for like people, I don't want the one

1186
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 3: with the alcohol in it either unless they're unless they're

1187
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 3: a partner, and then I'm I'll drink all the Guinness

1188
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 3: you need me to drink.

1189
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: Well, that is, we are very similar in that sense.

1190
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: I'll drink like. Look, I'll come right off the wagon.

1191
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: If we want to be sponsored by a tequila company. Here,

1192
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: let's go. Uh. I don't have standards people like, there's

1193
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: no no question about that. But no, I like, I

1194
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: like a Guinness. I so uh. There used to be

1195
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: a place on Second avenue in Nashville years ago called Piranhas,

1196
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 2: and Piranhas was at the time we got to understand

1197
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 2: it was a different version of Lower Broad. It was

1198
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: the only place that was open until like three in

1199
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: the morning, So everybody that worked on Lower Broad would

1200
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: just pounded to Piranhas, and I used to at the time.

1201
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: I was living like five minutes from there, So it

1202
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: was a blast to go into Piranhas at like two

1203
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 2: in the morning because they'd have karaoke and everybody was

1204
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,959
Speaker 2: getting hammered. And I was my parents at the time.

1205
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: We're in town. We went over to Piranhas before a

1206
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: Titans game. My buddy get me tickets to giving me

1207
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: tickets for like a Christmas eve gin. I walk in

1208
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: and the bartender immediately pours to twenty ounce guinness and

1209
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: puts them right down on the corner of the bar.

1210
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 2: The minute I walk in and I sit down, and

1211
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: my mom says to the bartender, does he come in

1212
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: here a lot? And she says, oh, yeah, I've never

1213
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: seen anybody drink it's the way he does. He drinks

1214
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 2: it like water. And like at that time, I take

1215
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 2: down like ten or twelve of those guinness a night, like,

1216
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 2: just yeah, it's a way to go.

1217
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 4: Ten or twelve beers.

1218
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 8: Anyway, I.

1219
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 2: Don't drink I did see only beer I ever liked.

1220
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: I never liked any other gear other than beer, other

1221
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 2: than Guinness. I've always I'm a Guinness guy.

1222
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 4: I like. I don't drink beer anyway, just because it

1223
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 4: makes me.

1224
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 3: It makes me sleepy, Like I don't want to, you know,

1225
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 3: if I'm going out, I don't want to be I

1226
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 3: don't want to be bloated and tired the way that

1227
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 3: beer makes me, which is why you know.

1228
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 4: Instead I run on jet fuel like tequila. Yeah.

1229
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 2: Well, as I've gotten older, certainly. I mean for many

1230
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: years I always any drink with an umbrella and it

1231
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 2: does me right. But then it became a sugar free

1232
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 2: Red Bull with whatever alcohol I'm putting in it. And

1233
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: then you realize at the end of the night, You're like, yeah,

1234
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 2: I had a case of sugar free Red Bull tonight.

1235
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure that's good for my heart either.

1236
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: So I don't know what I'm doing.

1237
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 4: Tell tell your bar story that I so rudely interrupted choices.

1238
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: So I belly up to my Irish pub and I

1239
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: get my non alcoholic beer and I look up at

1240
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 2: the TV and the NHL Draft is going on, and

1241
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 2: I literally look at the bartender and I'm like, is

1242
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 2: that live? And the guy sitting next to me that

1243
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 2: I did not know, is like, I don't think that's live.

1244
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, well, it says ESPN's logo on it, so

1245
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: it's got to be live. And then we're all watching

1246
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 2: the awkwardness of the NHL Draft, like without the audio,

1247
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: and it looked really weird that a player was drafted,

1248
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: then taking down this weird lit up tunnel into a

1249
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 2: room where it looked like they were zooming with people,

1250
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 2: and it just all of it was weird. But what

1251
00:59:55,120 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 2: really hit me Buck is like, we spend months just

1252
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: talking about the NFL Draft, and part of that's because

1253
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: college football is the second most popular sport in America,

1254
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 2: so people have more name recognition. I'm sitting in a

1255
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: hockey town, Hartford loves hockey still, and nobody even knew

1256
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: that the draft is going on. As it was going on,

1257
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: nobody knew who any of these players were. And this

1258
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: is the second time of the week because we dealt

1259
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: with the same thing again. I will remind people that

1260
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: viewership for the NBA draft was down forty percent year

1261
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 2: over year, Like less than four million people watched the

1262
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: NBA Draft this year. So for every time that you

1263
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: hear some idiot tell you that we needed a draft

1264
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: lottery and all these things, you can bind the lottery

1265
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: broadcast with the NBA draft broadcast, and it still reached

1266
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: a fraction of what the third day of the NFL

1267
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: Draft reaches. Right, Like, nobody cares about these drafts, and

1268
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 2: I can't figure out why. I can't figure out how

1269
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: to change that. I can't figure out what the NFL

1270
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 2: has bottled up. But it really brings down the differences

1271
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: of the haves and the have nots, because drafts feel

1272
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: meaningless for every sport other than the NFL.

1273
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 4: And I don't know, No, I think it's pretty explainable.

1274
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 3: I mean, FITZI, you just you touched on it in

1275
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 3: a part of your explanation or in the wind up there.

1276
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 3: You're dealing with a lot of international players, and in football,

1277
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 3: the percentage of those is non existent. Like a lot

1278
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 3: of these guys that end up in the NFL with

1279
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 3: this international roster exemption or things like that, if they're

1280
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 3: a part of the NFL's I can't think of the

1281
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 3: name of the program specifically, but where they foster international

1282
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 3: football growth and development, and a couple of guys every

1283
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 3: year feels like they end up on a roster, but

1284
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 3: you've never heard of them because they're playing in they're

1285
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 3: playing in Holland, or they're playing in Germany, or they're

1286
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 3: playing in London or something like that. Very rarely do

1287
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 3: international players on an NFL level register, and when they do,

1288
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 3: there's so many other guys that play for Clemson and Alabama,

1289
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 3: Notre Dame in Ohio State that you can just gloss

1290
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 3: over those guys and then you'll learn their names once

1291
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 3: they're on your favorite NFL team's roster.

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01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 4: It's, you know, not to just boil it down simply.

1293
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 3: To the idea of basketball has never felt more international

1294
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 3: than it does right now. There's no longer a stigma

1295
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 3: around international players coming into the NBA.

1296
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 4: Right the way.

1297
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 3: I mean, even as recently as Dirk, like Dirk was

1298
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 3: thought of as this kind of finesse, soft euro guy

1299
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 3: coming in to the NBA at the time, when in reality,

1300
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 3: that's not who Dirk Nowitzki was at all. And you

1301
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 3: see the level of play that these guys experience internationally

1302
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 3: and how it kind of battle tests them for the

1303
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 3: NBA when they're finally able to get that opportunity at

1304
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,919
Speaker 3: the highest level of the sport. But basketball has never

1305
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 3: felt more like an international game. And in hockey, I mean,

1306
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 3: FITZI a lot of these guys, English is like maybe

1307
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 3: their second, maybe their third language, depending on which country

1308
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 3: you're talking about, with names that are difficult to pronounce,

1309
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 3: with countries that you don't think about, and a sport

1310
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 3: where there's so many different leagues and I know people

1311
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 3: watch you know, I mentioned Notre Dame for football. Notre

1312
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 3: Dame is also a very proud hockey program Boston College.

1313
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 3: Like I'm sure there are parts of the country that

1314
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 3: do know these college hockey players coming up, but again

1315
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 3: domestically as opposed to internationally.

1316
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 4: You combine that with the.

1317
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 3: Fact that you know, frankly, to me, the draft coverage,

1318
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 3: it's not the reason it was down almost forty percent

1319
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 3: in the NBA, but the Steven A. Smith fatigue. And

1320
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: I know you've had a little bit of an aggregation

1321
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 3: situation in the last couple of weeks with you, boy,

1322
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 3: but like the fatigue just seeing turning on the draft

1323
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 3: coverage and being greeted by Steven A was exhausting to

1324
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 3: me because I was already sick of him on the

1325
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 3: NBA coverage. And I probably felt that way because I'm

1326
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 3: a Pacers fan, and I didn't like the way that

1327
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 3: my team, like the basketball, was not being discussed as

1328
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 3: opposed to a good portion of the pregame show being

1329
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 3: spent on things like the Kevin Durant trade.

1330
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 4: But that was a factor for me why I.

1331
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 3: Just ended up turning it off and I'll just I'll

1332
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 3: catch it on Twitter, like I'll find out where these

1333
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 3: guys go. Okay, Colin Cowhard got drafted by the Grizzlies.

1334
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: That's awkward what happened there? And you figure it out

1335
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 3: after the fact. I'm sure you saw that Malika Andrews,

1336
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 3: who's just a consummate professional, and made one mistake that

1337
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 3: everybody's latching on too. But you get my point. And

1338
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 3: then in the NHL this they went with what they

1339
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 3: called a quote unquote decentralized draft this year fifty. It

1340
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 3: looked like something out of COVID, this draft house situation

1341
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 3: that they were having people interact with on zoom where

1342
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 3: they had the NHL draft at the Peacock theater there

1343
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 3: in La Gary Bentman was there, who was summarily booed.

1344
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 3: You had ESPN's draft team and a handful of prospects,

1345
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 3: but when a player was in the building was drafted,

1346
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 3: he'd go onto the stage and do a zoom interview

1347
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 3: with members of his new team's front office.

1348
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 4: It was weird.

1349
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 3: Just the construct of the television broadcast itself made it

1350
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 3: look like something that didn't belong there, made it look

1351
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 3: like to you, and the people in that Irish pub

1352
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 3: questioned the idea of if this was even a live event.

1353
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 3: You know, the only reason I knew the NHL Draft

1354
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 3: was on last night. As somebody who works in an

1355
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 3: NHL market, I know the pres are just dog water

1356
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 3: right now, so maybe I shouldn't be paying attention to

1357
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 3: them anyway. In their lottery, they ended up with the

1358
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 3: fifth pick, which is terrible. They had the damn mascot

1359
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 3: was walking the halls of my local radio station here

1360
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 3: yesterday trying to get people on the sports station that

1361
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 3: I worked for to take pictures with them.

1362
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 4: And I don't do stuff like that, so I was

1363
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 4: I offered.

1364
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 3: I offered, well, I offered Nash to go for a

1365
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 3: cigarette break with me, and he was not interested in that.

1366
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 3: I said, well that I'm not interested in taking a

1367
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 3: picture with you, so we moved on with our day.

1368
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 3: I Uh, I just I think there are a couple

1369
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 3: of different things that are working against those two leagues.

1370
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 4: Specifically, and I just don't know that.

1371
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 3: They're correctable, because you're never going to get people to

1372
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 3: have that level of international interest before these guys end

1373
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 3: up playing domestically for their favorite teams.

1374
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 2: I I love your international point. By the way, the

1375
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 2: NFL International Player pathway was what you were thinking of,

1376
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: and for anyone, no, that's an exempt on the roster.

1377
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 2: So if you bring somebody in that came up through

1378
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 2: the NFL IPP you get to carry extra people on

1379
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 2: your roster up. It is an interesting point about the

1380
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 2: international portion of it. I think what I find myself

1381
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: stunned by. You know, one of our Yahoo shows, not

1382
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 2: one of mom but one of our other shows about football,

1383
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 2: when a deep dive into the draft. I think it

1384
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 2: was during October, and the funny thing is one of

1385
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 2: the bosses came back and said, guys, we don't need

1386
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 2: to be talking about the draft. It's October. What do

1387
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 2: we doing? We got football to talk about until they

1388
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 2: saw the numbers, and the numbers went through the roof,

1389
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 2: and it was a reminder that you can literally talk

1390
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: about the NFL draft any day of the week and

1391
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: people will tune into it. And we've created the NFL

1392
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 2: has cultivated a culture that allows for full hour long

1393
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: podcasts about offensive linemen that nobody's ever heard of and

1394
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 2: that nobody knows a damn thing about and can't tell

1395
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 2: you a single thing about how they play. But my god,

1396
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 2: we're just desperate for the understanding, so we flocked to it.

1397
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: In part, college football, in part, NFL fandom is so different.

1398
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: The one thing that I could drill down to that

1399
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 2: I do think makes the tangible difference. Though, and you

1400
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 2: mentioned being in a hockey market. We both know this

1401
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 2: from covering hockey over the years. A guy drafted by

1402
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 2: their organization may not see the ice for their actual

1403
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 2: team for years, you know. And it's very simple, similar

1404
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 2: to the Major League Baseball draft in that sense, Like

1405
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: creat you drafted somebody in the first round, All right,

1406
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 2: are they going back to college? In that situation? Are

1407
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 2: they gonna go to the miners?

1408
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 7: Like?

1409
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 2: How many years are you hold their rights? How long

1410
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 2: will they be in the miners, like it gets so complicated.

1411
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 2: The thing that is really amazing to me is that

1412
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 2: the NFL has figured out how to take very complicated

1413
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 2: principles and make them seem simple, so you feel like

1414
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 2: the NFL Draft is simple, Like the lottery does not

1415
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 2: simplify anything for any any league's draft. The NFL has

1416
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 2: found a way to take very complicated concepts with the

1417
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 2: draft and the draft order and compensatory picks and all

1418
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 2: these things, and they've simplified it in such a way

1419
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 2: that people find themselves feeling like they're experts in it.

1420
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 2: Like you'll actually see fans debating releasing a player after

1421
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 2: a certain date or signing a player after a certain

1422
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: date because what it means for the following year's compensatory

1423
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: draft picks. Like we've gotten that deep with the NFL draft.

1424
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 2: With the NBA draft, I don't know, like everybody knows

1425
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,520
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag that's it. Like we come into this draft

1426
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: it's such a different league than the college game in general.

1427
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 2: We watch Chase Richardson single handedly trying will Michigan State

1428
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 2: to a Final four National championship type season. Like Chase

1429
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 2: Richardson had a great year for which he was like

1430
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 2: the thirtieth pick to Orlando, like he was a late

1431
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 2: first round pick to Orlando, and no idea what that

1432
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 2: Actually he's gonna play in the G League. We'll see

1433
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 2: if he actually makes a roster. It's just such a

1434
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 2: weird system where we don't see the immediate return of

1435
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 2: investment the way we do in the NFL, and I

1436
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 2: think that makes it harder to give a damn about

1437
01:08:59,240 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: the draft imprints.

1438
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 4: Oh no, it's completely fair.

1439
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 3: I mean because in those other two sports, these feeder leagues,

1440
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 3: you would have to you have to actively go out

1441
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 3: of your way.

1442
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 4: To find stuff.

1443
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 3: And there will be people that do, right, They'll they'll

1444
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 3: go watch the AHL games if they're that much invested

1445
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 3: in learning.

1446
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 4: About these hockey prospects or the next.

1447
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 3: Goaltender that you may have coming down the pipe. I

1448
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 3: know people who bet on the G League, like there

1449
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 3: are Sikos out there among us. But what is college

1450
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,799
Speaker 3: football if not the NFL's feeder system. And the NFL's

1451
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 3: feeder system just happens to be America's second most popular sport.

1452
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 4: So this is it?

1453
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 2: Is it?

1454
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 3: It's as simplistic a situation as you could find without

1455
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 3: a simple solution for the other two to try and

1456
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 3: gain You're not going to gain ground, right, and you're

1457
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 3: fighting a losing battle when you try to compare yourself

1458
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 3: to the NFL or college football for that matter. If

1459
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 3: I'm the NHL and the NBA right now, I think

1460
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 3: that there would need to be some self scouts outing

1461
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 3: on all right, what am I doing relative to the

1462
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 3: third most popular sport? What am I doing that's helping

1463
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 3: to generate interest or hurting the ability to generate interest

1464
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 3: versus what the NBA is doing, or versus what the

1465
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 3: NHL is doing, Like comparing themselves amongst each other as

1466
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 3: opposed to what Adam Silver does each and every year,

1467
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 3: and particularly egregious this year getting up in multiple national

1468
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 3: television spots trying to sell the NBA Finals to anybody

1469
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 3: that would listen to him, comparing it to the NFL,

1470
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 3: but then saying ludicrous things like Indiana, Oklahoma City is

1471
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 3: like seeing Green Bay and Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl. Brother,

1472
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? Stay as far away from

1473
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 3: those comparisons as humanly possible, one, because that's completely off

1474
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 3: base you're talking about.

1475
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 4: I mean, yes, green Bay.

1476
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 3: Is technically the smallest NFL market fitsy. How many more

1477
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers fans are there in the rest of

1478
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 3: the country than there are in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

1479
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 4: It's not even remotely the same thing.

1480
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 3: So I think the self scouting that these leagues that

1481
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 3: are not the NFL are constantly chasing the NFL, when

1482
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 3: in reality they've already lost that race. What they are

1483
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 3: now trying to compete against each other for, or compete

1484
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 3: for the eyeballs, is against each other in trying to

1485
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 3: drive up the interest in their respective leagues versus the

1486
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 3: NHL and the NBA as opposed to getting anywhere close

1487
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 3: to football because they can't.

1488
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 2: You mentioned the race, and it really opens my mind

1489
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 2: to what these other leagues are. These other leagues are

1490
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 2: all people that think they're faster than they are. They've

1491
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 2: lost self awareness. Like we all have that friend that

1492
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 2: is convinced that if you gave them three months, they

1493
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 2: could be an Olympian in some sport. And that friend

1494
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: is It's me curling, of course, of course curly. Okay, yeah,

1495
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 2: look see out on the ice. Try a one time

1496
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 2: one hundred when the next time you come to Nashville.

1497
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 2: I'll take it a tea line.

1498
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 3: We can we can test out that Mark Bolger, the

1499
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 3: former NFL quarterback. He's got a tea a curling bar

1500
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 3: here in the uh here in downtown Nashville.

1501
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 4: Well we'll take you out for a spend some time.

1502
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 2: And you like every other you know, Oh, you're not

1503
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 2: middle aged yet, so you know.

1504
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 4: Bleep off, I'm thirty one. Wait middle aged.

1505
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 2: Man, I've seen the way you live that sixty two.

1506
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: That feels about right. Ye see, you're hitting halftime like

1507
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 2: you know, you're you're hitting half time at this.

1508
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 4: Point one week. Relax, Okay, okay.

1509
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, sure, I'm just saying, like more more often

1510
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 2: than not, people have decided that they are at a

1511
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: different athletic level than they actually are, and they need

1512
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 2: to be humbled. It's the whole reason that, you know

1513
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 2: what the pros Versus Shoe's show existed years ago, where

1514
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 2: everybody sits there and suddenly you're you're getting tackled by

1515
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 2: an NFL player to see how you can handle it.

1516
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 2: I think that in some ways, Garry Bettman, I mean

1517
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: you just look across the board. Major League bas guilty

1518
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 2: of the same thing. Major League Baseball vastly overrated what

1519
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 2: their their rights package was going to be worth and

1520
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 2: now put themselves in a situation where they're scrambling to

1521
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 2: figure out how to get their games watched. You know,

1522
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: the NBA is sitting here telling you, hey, our ratings

1523
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 2: may be down, but we're better than everything else that's

1524
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 2: being broadcast right now. And that's just like everybody's trying

1525
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 2: to polish a pig. And I don't really think most

1526
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: people have the perspective to look at it and say, hey,

1527
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: are we actually like, take ego out of it, take

1528
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 2: what we think of our own sport out of it,

1529
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: and ask ourselves, are we serving fans in a way

1530
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 2: that takes casuals and make some super fans, makes super

1531
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 2: fans into fanatics, makes people that don't care into basic fans,

1532
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 2: Like are we elevating the fandom of everybody? And the

1533
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 2: Draft last night was living, breathing proof that that's absolutely

1534
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 2: not what's happening. Okay, speaking a fandom, we mentioned it earlier,

1535
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 2: I want to get into it. NFL collusion became a

1536
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,599
Speaker 2: massive conversation should you care? And why we're gonna break

1537
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 2: it down? He's Buck Rising on Jason Fitzburgh hanging out

1538
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: It's a fellas on Fox Sports Radio. Sefellas on Fox Sports.

1539
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 2: Buck Rising in for Anthony Gargano. I'm Jason fitz hanging

1540
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 2: out with you. Yes, I do every Saturday morning from

1541
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 2: five to nine am. I said this one we started.

1542
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 2: But if you're just waking up on the East Coast,

1543
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 2: let's go carpe this team. Make it a great one.

1544
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 2: If you're still up on the West coast, congratulations, like

1545
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 2: you're living like Buck Rising.

1546
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 4: If you're still go to bed.

1547
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 3: If you're still up on the West Coast, got a

1548
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 3: bed unless you're on wonderful people back in the Los

1549
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 3: Angeles studios who are grinding to make sure that Fitzie

1550
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 3: and I, these two dopes can stay on the air

1551
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 3: for a couple of hours, but the rest of you

1552
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 3: go to sleep.

1553
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 2: I mean, right now, West Coast, it's three forty five.

1554
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 2: You're telling me, Buck Rising, that you haven't seen three

1555
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 2: forty five in the morning lately in.

1556
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 3: Nashville Thursday night. But I'm not on locally till ten,

1557
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 3: so I can live that way.

1558
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. But you know the question is, because you do

1559
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 2: get up early to go to the gym on a

1560
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 2: day like that, do you skip the gym or do

1561
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: you go to the gym you know, tequila tequila your

1562
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 2: pre workout at that point.

1563
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 3: At that point, yes, and then the sauna is the

1564
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 3: way that we detox and then we I have time

1565
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 3: to take a nap after that before I come into

1566
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 3: my show, so I can I have the ability to

1567
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,719
Speaker 3: nobody's got a better than me, Fitzing. I'm Jim Harball

1568
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 3: around here. Nobody's got a better than me.

1569
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 2: Bri back in the studio doing God's work, by the way,

1570
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 2: putting us together, Bri. It's it is three forty nine

1571
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 2: where you are right now?

1572
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:23,879
Speaker 8: Accurate?

1573
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you? You know I can't tell time, and

1574
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,839
Speaker 2: who I could do a basic math when you're not working?

1575
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 2: Do you usually see three forty nine in the morning?

1576
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 2: Like that? Is that a usual?

1577
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 9: My alarm is actually set to four am always because

1578
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 9: I have another job, so I get up and work

1579
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 9: remote and I've been going to the office so I

1580
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 9: have to drive to Newport Beach. So yeah, I'm usually

1581
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 9: up around four, so I have like ten minutes before

1582
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 9: I'm up up.

1583
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 2: I don't know how LA does it.

1584
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 4: I just don't like it.

1585
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 2: I don't know how y'all do it. Like I get

1586
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 2: like I get that traffic is bad in Nashville. I

1587
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 2: get traffic back by the way, it's gonna leave me

1588
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 2: to a hot take. By the way, Buck, you didn't

1589
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 2: know I was gonna go here, but I'm just gonna

1590
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 2: hot take you. We need robot drivers, like fully automated cars,

1591
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 2: absolutely everywhere, and people tell like he's making a face.

1592
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 4: Shut up.

1593
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Here's the thing. I have now lived

1594
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 2: literally all over the country in my life. There is

1595
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,600
Speaker 2: not a part of the country I have not lived in,

1596
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 2: and everybody says, well, traffic is bad here. Now. The

1597
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 2: fact is, we as a country do not know how

1598
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 2: to drive at all. So if we had robot drivers,

1599
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 2: I would no longer have to worry about the fact

1600
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 2: that y'all can't merge and you wait until the very

1601
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 2: last second, which then causes like a ten mile backup.

1602
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 2: I don't have to worry about the jerk that's driving

1603
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 2: through traffic at one hundred and twenty miles an hour

1604
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,599
Speaker 2: when they shouldn't be. I don't have to worry about

1605
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 2: the person that clearly can't make it through the intersection,

1606
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 2: but it's going to turn left anyway to block everybody

1607
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 2: because they've decided it's their turn, which means We're all

1608
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 2: gonna miss the next light until the person in front

1609
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 2: of me does the same thing to the next side. Like,

1610
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 2: we as a country cannot drive, so give me robots.

1611
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 2: They cannot be worse than the actual people.

1612
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 8: Kill half of us, that's why.

1613
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 3: Then, well that's the other thing. That's the other thing, bree.

1614
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,879
Speaker 3: He's taking out the audience. How many of the audience,

1615
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 3: How many of you out there are hanging out because

1616
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,600
Speaker 3: we're keeping you company as you drive for Uber or

1617
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 3: maybe you're still operating in a taxi business.

1618
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 4: Maybe you're a truck driver, not man of the people.

1619
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 3: Jason Fitz, I'm supposed to be the pretentious high and

1620
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 3: mighty one around here with my where's my my, my piano,

1621
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 3: my piano chime in the background to represent the one

1622
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 3: percent lifestyle that I live, not me today. But Jason

1623
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 3: Fitz also roundabouts would require robot drivers. They are the

1624
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 3: bane of my existence. You people are terrible.

1625
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 2: Look so last time I was in LA I was

1626
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 2: waiting for an Uber to go somewhere and somebody said, oh,

1627
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 2: just carll a weimo instead, I'd never driven away movie

1628
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 2: or I'd never been there.

1629
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 4: Who what's a weymo A weymom.

1630
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 2: That's a They don't go on the highway yet in LA,

1631
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 2: but they are all around LA. They're fully automated. It's

1632
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 2: like an uber So you call it with the so

1633
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:01,640
Speaker 2: by the way, it will know.

1634
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 3: I've seen them the scouting or like scoping Nashville with

1635
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 3: the giant like cameras on top of the cars, like

1636
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 3: they're they're mapping the city for these things.

1637
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 4: Okay, I know what you're talking about. Yeah.

1638
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: So, like Uber wanted twenty four bucks, Weimo wanted eight

1639
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 2: dollars for the same ride, so a third of the cost. Right,

1640
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 2: I called it. It pulled up to the front of

1641
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 2: my hotel. I walked up to the door and the

1642
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 2: app automatically opened the door. It would only open one door.

1643
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: I sat in and there's like adjacent do you have

1644
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 2: a guest? And I said yeah, So I opened it

1645
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 2: so my guy working on the show with me could

1646
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 2: also get in the car. We got in the car

1647
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 2: and it was like, Jason, how do you like the temperature?

1648
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 2: I pressed the button made it cooler, and then he

1649
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 2: gave me playlist options. It's like what would you like

1650
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 2: to listen to? And it securely got me to my destination.

1651
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 2: In no time. There was nobody in the car. Didn't

1652
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 2: have to worry about whether or not somebody was just like,

1653
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: because let me tell you, I've taken some ubers in

1654
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 2: LA where like I and this is saying a lot

1655
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 2: could get high just sitting in the uber like and

1656
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 2: it's not like I'm somebody that's never you know. I mean,

1657
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 2: if it's getting me high, then it's getting everybody high, right,

1658
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 2: So you know, I didn't have to worry about any

1659
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 2: of that. The car got me there safely, It got

1660
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 2: me there easily. Like. Look, I know that there are

1661
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 2: people out there, you know, scratching and clawing to get bught.

1662
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 2: We're all going to be replaced by robots and AI anyway,

1663
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 2: so this is just going to be the inevitable next

1664
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 2: piece of it.

1665
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 3: I have in my hand a business card because I'm

1666
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 3: a dinosaur, not my business card, but this is a

1667
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 3: business card for my guy Donald, who drives me around

1668
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 3: because I don't want to take ubers.

1669
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 4: And once I find a driver that I'm good with.

1670
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 3: In every city that I do road games in because

1671
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 3: I travel across the country doing games, I have one

1672
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 3: of these in every NFL city. Fitsie, I'm not leaving

1673
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 3: my livelihood or my well being up to an eight

1674
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 3: dollar robot ride. I will gladly pay whatever it costs

1675
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 3: to have somebody that I know drive me around the

1676
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 3: city that I can have a conversation with it. I

1677
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 3: can tell them how I like the temperature and what

1678
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 3: music I like to listen to. But that's me. I'm

1679
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 3: one hundred years old when it comes to that stuff.

1680
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I'm the outlier there.

1681
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 2: The wild elitist. By the way, when Uber first launched,

1682
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 2: it was like a limos service for normal people. Like

1683
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 2: it was always a black car with the water and

1684
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 2: like people were dressed nice and it was like just

1685
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 2: it was awesome. It was this great experience. Now you

1686
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 2: get in, you're like, wow, this car only has three wheels,

1687
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 2: but it's gonna get me there. Like whatever. The demise

1688
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 2: of those places are is brought on in part by

1689
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 2: that collusion in the NFL. I promise we'll get to it.

1690
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 2: Should you care, We'll answer that question, Buck Rising Jason

1691
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,440
Speaker 2: fitz on Fox Sports Radio.

1692
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 1: The fellas you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

1693
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes there are issues that everybody thinks are huge, but

1694
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,719
Speaker 2: the real question is are they If they don't actually

1695
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 2: impact what we watch. It's the ultimate sports version of

1696
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 2: if a tree falls in the forest, nobody's there to

1697
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 2: hear it. Does it actually make a sound? If NFL

1698
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 2: owners and the NFL Players Association all together agree on

1699
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,679
Speaker 2: something that looks like collusion, feels like collusion, sounds like collusion,

1700
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: could be collusion, who cares? He's Buck Rising on Jason

1701
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 2: Fitz Fox Sports Saturday. We're up with you early. By

1702
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 2: the way, shout out to Jody hit me up on

1703
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: Instagram said she's listening from the West Coast insomnia. So

1704
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 2: it's a reminder that, you know, some people are just

1705
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 2: up late, Buck, because they're just out having a good time.

1706
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 2: Some people are up late because they can't sleep. Some

1707
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 2: people just need some lavender tea. Apparently, I don't know,

1708
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 2: Brie is trying to convince you that lavender belongs in drinks.

1709
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 2: This is what's happening now midway through the Saturday morning

1710
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,719
Speaker 2: that now all of a sudden, we're talking about flowers

1711
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 2: and drinks in insomnia.

1712
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:31,679
Speaker 3: Well, no, we were talking about basically alcoholic weapon of choice,

1713
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,799
Speaker 3: of which you abstained from the conversation because you're living

1714
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,440
Speaker 3: a clean and a chober.

1715
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 2: Lavender could be in tea also, well, you could put it.

1716
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 4: In a mocktail, I suppose.

1717
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 3: But we were talking about, you know, drunken debauchery, not

1718
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 3: lavender tea at this point in time. And Brie had

1719
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 3: asked me if I'd ever had a cocktail with lavender

1720
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 3: in it, and I said I had had a latte

1721
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 3: at some point in my life. And then you started

1722
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 3: to dismiss both of those things by saying you don't

1723
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 3: want to drink flowers.

1724
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 9: And no spicy margarita is either, which I just can't

1725
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 9: get over.

1726
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 3: Roast him, roast him, breathing, he hit me for you,

1727
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 3: I like I said, I said it during the commercial break.

1728
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 4: I'll say it to you now.

1729
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 3: You've never been more Caucasian in your life than you

1730
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 3: are at this very moment, taking a stand against spicy Marguerite's.

1731
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 4: I bet you don't like taheen on your rim either.

1732
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 9: Oh my god, moment of truth to Hean's fine.

1733
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 2: I could take her leave to.

1734
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 4: Take a lap. Why don't you take a lap?

1735
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 2: Look, I don't Here's the thing, I don't want to

1736
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 2: when I eat something spicy. You know what I need

1737
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 2: immediately a drink to help get rid of the spice, right, salt?

1738
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 4: Does that salt?

1739
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 2: Well, that's I mean at the end of the day, Look,

1740
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 2: it's never it's it's not my stomach and it's not

1741
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 2: my butt like I can handle spicy food, it's my mouth.

1742
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 2: My mouth just doesn't like spicy. And you know what, Buck,

1743
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 2: this could happen to you. One day I was I

1744
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,839
Speaker 2: was sitting in a in a chair, this is probably

1745
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 2: twenty years ago in Nashville, sitting in a chair eating

1746
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,759
Speaker 2: what at the time where my favorite candies, hot Tomalies,

1747
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 2: And I was just hammering a box of hot Tomali's

1748
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 2: like the child I am. And all of a sudden

1749
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 2: I looked at I was like, man, this must be

1750
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 2: like super spicy hot Somalies or something all of us.

1751
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 2: Overnight I went from I love anything with heat on

1752
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:09,640
Speaker 2: it to all of a sudden, overnight I went to

1753
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 2: anything with that much spice on it, I can't handle

1754
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 2: it all. I don't. And so yeah, no, I don't

1755
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 2: want spicy margaritas because then I'm gonna have to have

1756
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 2: water to cool down my mouth after the heat from

1757
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 2: the spicy Mark, Why do I need that? I just

1758
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 2: I'd much rather just have the tequila with a little

1759
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 2: bit of lime juice in it.

1760
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 3: Bam go, Your food and beverage preferences are akin to

1761
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 3: the level of interest in this NFL owner's collusion case.

1762
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 3: It's bland, it's uninteresting. It would largely draw a yawn

1763
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 3: from the vast majority of people who would be who

1764
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 3: it would be presented to. That's about as good a

1765
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 3: comparison as I could come up with for this story.

1766
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 2: So let me give you this, Like, what if I

1767
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 2: told you in a world where collusion exists and arbitration

1768
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 2: tried to hide the documentation. What if players look around

1769
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 2: they realize what happened to them Now, they realize they

1770
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 2: have this little window where all of a sudden, they're

1771
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 2: seen differently, right, Like, if they can't find it fully

1772
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 2: guaranteed contracts, then they can accuse everybody involved with collusion.

1773
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 2: What if this changes contracts in the NFL right now

1774
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 2: where players try and fight for more fully guaranteed deals

1775
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 2: like Deshaun Watson got. What if collusion creates that system

1776
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 2: you cover an NFL team every day. I think we

1777
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 2: can all acknowledge that if they got to a point

1778
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 2: where they fully guaranteed contracts, that would be one of

1779
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 2: the wildest changes we've ever seen in NFL history.

1780
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 4: It won't happen in that league. It won't happen.

1781
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 3: You can't FITZI the thing, and I hate this for

1782
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 3: the players. And this you know I mentioned at the

1783
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 3: at the very top of the show that as a

1784
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 3: as a.

1785
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 4: I hate football players.

1786
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 2: Is that what you said? You don't like player empowerment,

1787
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 2: you must like you must hate all you hate athletes

1788
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 2: making money.

1789
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 4: That's what you mentioned that at the beginning Number One

1790
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:57,719
Speaker 4: Hater Dave Chappelle show.

1791
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 3: I'll come in. I'll go haters, haters ball or whatever. Well,

1792
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 3: we'll make it happen. I'll come in. I'll come in

1793
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 3: my pimpsuit. We'll rocket. I, as a sports fan, am

1794
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 3: not interested in player empowerment.

1795
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 4: Because that does not benefit me as a sports fan.

1796
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 3: Largely, it works against my interests as a sports fan.

1797
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 3: As a working media professional who works in locker rooms

1798
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 3: and who deals with athletes, and who deals with agents

1799
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 3: and coaches and executives on a daily basis in some

1800
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 3: form or fashion, I am completely sympathetic to anybody in

1801
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 3: those positions who would try to maximize their labor. But

1802
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 3: don't talk to me about it as a sports fan

1803
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 3: about my favorite teams, because I'm not going to hear

1804
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 3: you that way.

1805
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 4: In the NFL, Fitsie. I am sympathetic to.

1806
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 3: The idea of them trying to maximize their leverage because

1807
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,759
Speaker 3: that league, more than any other, is dealing in monopoly money.

1808
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 3: That league is the most profitable by a mile. That

1809
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 3: league has the greediest owners, so much so that the

1810
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 3: owners have kind of gotten over their sceries. Half of

1811
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 3: them can't afford the franchises that they currently run, which

1812
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:07,919
Speaker 3: is why private equity is being welcomed into the situation

1813
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 3: to help bring down the cost. Because Walmart owns two teams,

1814
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 3: But how many of you actually have Walmart money out

1815
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 3: there in the world to buy and operate one of

1816
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 3: these franchises, much less have the money in escro to

1817
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 3: pay some of these guaranteed contracts that you're talking about.

1818
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 4: I work in a market where Amy Adam.

1819
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 3: Strunk is the owner of the controlling owner of the

1820
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans. It's not like she's you know, it's not

1821
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 3: like she's out here begging on street corners or anything

1822
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 3: like that. But among NFL ownership groups, she is one

1823
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 3: of the more cash poor. Doesn't she's you know, she's

1824
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 3: she's the she's one of the lesser NFL owners as

1825
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 3: far as her financial standing. Doesn't mean that she's hit

1826
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 3: hard times or that she should feel sympathy for Mark

1827
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 3: Davis or Amy Adams drunk or any of these NFL

1828
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 3: owners in that category. But FITZI they've got I'll just

1829
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 3: use the Titans because that's the team that I cover

1830
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 3: on a daily basis as an example. They've got probably

1831
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 3: thirty thirty five million dollars in cap space to spend.

1832
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 3: They've got a number one overall pick a quarterback. Their

1833
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 3: roster could use some fortification. She's also spending. She had

1834
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,839
Speaker 3: to liquid eight seven hundred million dollars worth of assets

1835
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:14,759
Speaker 3: to start to build.

1836
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 4: Her new stadium.

1837
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 3: She is in a situation where her last GM that

1838
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 3: she fired, spent two hundred and twenty eight million dollars

1839
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 3: around Will Levis last year just to be the worst

1840
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 3: worst team in football. Plus the guaranteed money associated with

1841
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 3: a bunch of those long term deals for Lagarious Need

1842
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 3: and Calvin Ridley and Lloyd Cushenberry and a bunch of

1843
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 3: other players who would not command that kind of money

1844
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 3: anywhere else except for a team that had to pay

1845
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 3: the we suck luxury tax. Now she's in a situation

1846
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 3: where she's got cap space, but she probably doesn't have

1847
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 3: that cash on hand to spend that. Coupled with the

1848
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 3: idea that there is a one hundred percent rate of

1849
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 3: injury in the NFL, the owners will never guarantee that money.

1850
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 3: The players are never going to be able to get

1851
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 3: to that guaranteed money because the sport churns these bodies

1852
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 3: at a higher rate than any other professional sport. You

1853
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 3: cannot guarantee fully guarantee the money in the NFL because

1854
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 3: those are some costs.

1855
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 4: Almost immediately.

1856
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 2: You'd have to do shorter contracts, Everything would have to

1857
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 2: constantly renew, they'd have to change the percentages of salary

1858
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 2: cap like all of these things.

1859
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 4: I'm with you, how's that going for college football right now?

1860
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 2: One hundred percent? That's actually a great comp Go back

1861
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 2: to the private equity group. So, because I do think

1862
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 2: that this is one of the minutia things that could matter,

1863
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 2: the NFL changed the rule, and before private equity firms

1864
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 2: couldn't own more than three percent of NFL teams. I

1865
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 2: think it is now they can own up to ten percent.

1866
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 2: Right we are going to live in a society over

1867
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 2: the course of the next twenty years where more and

1868
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 2: more of these teams are owned by essentially companies. That

1869
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 2: has to change some of the way they do business.

1870
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 2: Like you mentioned Amy Adams Strunk, I obviously know Mark Davis.

1871
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 2: I've met Mark a few times, but also just being

1872
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 2: a Raiders fan, I've watched the Mark Davis chronicles up

1873
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 2: close and personal. Mark Davis does so much of what

1874
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 2: he does as an owner of an NFL team from

1875
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 2: his heart, right like he is a fan and he's

1876
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 2: doing things from the heart that he thinks will make

1877
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 2: the team better. These private equity groups are going to

1878
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 2: look at everything as a number. Everything is a part

1879
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 2: of an analytics, everything is part of a business. So

1880
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,759
Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, every one of these people

1881
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: that are on the roster are no different than any

1882
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 2: other employee. They're going to be check marks on a spreadsheet,

1883
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 2: and that I wonder if that is part of the

1884
01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 2: change that makes some of this at least look different.

1885
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I don't think it, and I loudly

1886
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 2: I would yell to Florio and Pro Football Talk like

1887
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 2: stop telling me what we should care about. I just

1888
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 2: I don't think most people give a damn about collusion.

1889
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,719
Speaker 2: The people that should care about collusion are the players,

1890
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 2: because the one part of this that is significant to

1891
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 2: me is that the players' Association was aware of and

1892
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 2: didn't seem to do anything to push back on any

1893
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 2: of this collusion. And that means the very union that's

1894
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 2: supposed to be looking out for these players nothing to

1895
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,719
Speaker 2: protect him. If I'm a player today, I'm livid at.

1896
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 3: My Nobody looks worse than JC Trader, Nobody looks worse

1897
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 3: than JC Tredder in.

1898
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 2: This and so that's a valid that's a valid pushback.

1899
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 2: But I mean, you mentioned that new stadium, not a

1900
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 2: single person. I have a buddy that years ago was

1901
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 2: the drummer for a very popular country music band. Right

1902
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 2: they were at the top of the charts. They were

1903
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 2: the biggest thing in the world. And I remember we

1904
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,679
Speaker 2: were sitting on tour bus one day and he said, Hey,

1905
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 2: I'm going to demand a raise, I'm going to Amanda raise,

1906
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 2: and I'm going to demand healthcare. Most guys playing in

1907
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 2: the band for bands don't actually get any of those things.

1908
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 2: And I told him, I said, here's the question you

1909
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 2: got to ask yourself how many people will walk into

1910
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:43,719
Speaker 2: the Amphitheater at your next show, see a different drummer

1911
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 2: and then say I want a refund. How many people

1912
01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 2: will see a different drummer behind this band that's not

1913
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 2: known for their drummer and suddenly say I'm not buying

1914
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 2: a ticket out of the twenty five thousand people. Right.

1915
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 2: So if that is your actual that's your actual difference.

1916
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 2: You have to know that coming into these sort of conversations.

1917
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 2: I think sometimes what players don't realize is, even though

1918
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 2: they're right, they are the reason that so many people

1919
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,719
Speaker 2: watch these games. I believe that what they don't always

1920
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 2: realize is that a player can come and go as

1921
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 2: long as the stadium is full. Like the Titans are

1922
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 2: not going to sell less PSLs to their new stadium

1923
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 2: because of collusion. That's just not going to happen. So

1924
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 2: their lack of willingness to give out a fully guaranteed

1925
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 2: contract is not going to actually cost Amy Adams Trunk

1926
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 2: any money. And if that's the case, what's the point,

1927
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 2: like to make it oversimplified, what's the.

1928
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 4: Point it's compounded by?

1929
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 3: And Florio you know he tends to do this and listen,

1930
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 3: I have a lot of respect for my Florio. I

1931
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 3: think the outlet that he runs at Pro Football Talk

1932
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 3: is very helpful in just helping everybody keep a grasp

1933
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 3: of everything on all manner of different levels what's going

1934
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 3: on in the NFL. He does, he provides a very

1935
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:01,680
Speaker 3: useful service that way. So when he gets on soapboxes

1936
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 3: like this and he's saying why like this Tom Brady,

1937
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 3: Sean Payton, Miami Dolphins, which, by the way, the Dolphins

1938
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 3: were guilty of that tampering situation that cost them a

1939
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 3: first round draft pick. It was one of the most

1940
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 3: ridiculous stories you've ever heard of, and because it didn't

1941
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 3: come to fruition, most people kind of shrugged their shoulders

1942
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 3: and said, yeah, but that's not as interesting as the

1943
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 3: conspiracy I came up with in my head. Even though

1944
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 3: that's as close to an NFL conspiracy we've had in

1945
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 3: quite some time. This is an actual conspiracy, right, and

1946
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 3: people largely shrug their shoulders and say, yeah, but whatever.

1947
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 3: It's hard for people one to care about a story

1948
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 3: that does not directly impact them, and the vast majority

1949
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 3: of the football consuming public is not directly impacted by

1950
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 3: this story. The agents are because they're negotiating on behalf

1951
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 3: of their clients. The players are because they are trying

1952
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 3: to benefit themselves and their families in generational wealth terms.

1953
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 3: The NFL owners and NFL clubs and NFL and people

1954
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 3: that run the actual league are all affected. But that

1955
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 3: is such a small portion of the football consuming public,

1956
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 3: So you're fighting uphill against that. And then when you

1957
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 3: continue to hammer it and listen, my Florio is entitled

1958
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 3: to do with his platform whatever he wants to do.

1959
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,600
Speaker 3: But sitting out there yelling at people, why don't you

1960
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 3: care more about this? This is the biggest story because

1961
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 3: I told you so. That typically doesn't work. It's not

1962
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:24,839
Speaker 3: an effective strategy to get people to listen to your messaging.

1963
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 3: People already have a hard enough time, you know, coming

1964
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 3: to terms or coming to agreements on what they think

1965
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 3: is right versus what's fact and what's fiction and alternative

1966
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:37,440
Speaker 3: facts and all the other terms that we traffic in nowadays.

1967
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 3: But the incessant I don't feel it feels wrong to

1968
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:45,879
Speaker 3: call it whining, but just yammering about, Hey, pay attention

1969
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 3: to this because I told you to. It's important, because

1970
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's important, It is important, But you're

1971
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 3: not going to win anybody over that way. You're not

1972
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 3: going to get any additional traction that way. And the

1973
01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 3: people who were ignoring you before, or weren't ignoring you,

1974
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 3: maybe not ignoring you, but just weren't that invested. They're

1975
01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 3: gonna actively ignore you. They're going to tune you out

1976
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 3: at that point in time. It's it's just it's not

1977
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 3: a winning position.

1978
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 2: We don't care. And that's a message that I think,

1979
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 2: not just the NFL needs to be reminded of. I

1980
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 2: think it's a message that's going to hit one other

1981
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 2: massive sport in a huge way. I'll tell you about

1982
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 2: it next. He's Buck Rising on Jason fitzber hanging out

1983
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 2: the Fellows on Fox Sports Radio. Hi, this is Jay.

1984
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,439
Speaker 5: I'm the producer of the Paul an Toni Fusco Show.

1985
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 5: Usually in these promos they ask you to listen to

1986
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 5: the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen

1987
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 5: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who

1988
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,680
Speaker 5: have the dumbest takes on sports imaginable. Don't listen to

1989
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 5: the show so it can get camp.

1990
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 2: Get fool.

1991
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 6: Listen to the Tony Fusco Show on the iHeart Radio

1992
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:52,879
Speaker 6: app or wherever you get your podcast.

1993
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 2: He's still moving.

1994
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,600
Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1995
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,600
Speaker 7: the nation. Catch all all of our shows at foxsports

1996
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 7: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR

1997
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 7: to listen live. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason fitz the

1998
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 7: fellows on Fox Sports Radio. Buck making a sneer here.

1999
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 7: Buck not a country music guy, shout out to Chris Young.

2000
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 7: I'm it's my buddy. See why let's go.

2001
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's a lovely guy.

2002
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,600
Speaker 3: Oh man, I know I sound like I should like

2003
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 3: country music, and I'm and you know, Buck would come

2004
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 3: out country.

2005
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 4: Music and that's not like I'm.

2006
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 3: Like live country music. I could still, I could still

2007
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 3: get down for but I don't know that.

2008
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:38,679
Speaker 4: I nothing.

2009
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 3: You guys back there in La it's it's it's just now,

2010
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 3: like barely the crack of not even it's just barely

2011
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 3: the crack of dawn here in the Central time zone

2012
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,720
Speaker 3: at fourth four to twenty three am West Coast. Do

2013
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 3: you can pick whatever music you want? But yeah, I

2014
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 3: made a face like I smelled something that every time.

2015
01:35:56,920 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 2: I By the way, there's we've got smart, classy individuals

2016
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 2: that work on the show. Of course, you, mighty Mark

2017
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 2: happened to both be you know, country music fans. So

2018
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 2: you can take your holier than thou opinion on country

2019
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 2: music and roll it up and shove it up your

2020
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 2: my friend, that's shove it straight up your rising I'm Jason.

2021
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 3: See the more polite version of that would have been

2022
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 3: sit on it and spin.

2023
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 2: No. No, who needs to be polite. I mean, there's

2024
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:28,719
Speaker 2: no no need to be polite. We're being plumped this morning,

2025
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 2: and it's at six thirty.

2026
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:31,599
Speaker 4: In the morning. I don't know you.

2027
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,679
Speaker 3: You pick your own battles, but I'm out here fighting

2028
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 3: against the country music thing.

2029
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 4: You you you do whatever you.

2030
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 2: Want well Nashville, fighting against the country music.

2031
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:41,520
Speaker 4: I can't understanding against it in Nashville.

2032
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 3: I just you know, I understand that people come here

2033
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 3: for country music. And I am not one of those

2034
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 3: people who came here for country music. It's just not

2035
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 3: my vibe.

2036
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 2: That's I respect it. I respect it well, I don't

2037
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 2: really respect it, but I understand it. It's it's fine,

2038
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:54,320
Speaker 2: it's fine, it's fine.

2039
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 3: I don't think you do either of those things. I

2040
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 3: think you neither respect it nor understand it. And that's

2041
01:36:58,640 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 3: open is that?

2042
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 2: And you know what, I often feel the same when

2043
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 2: I am stuck in situations where we have to be

2044
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,639
Speaker 2: honest about players and what they want. Hear me out

2045
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 2: on this, like, So, I've told this story before, but

2046
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 2: I will tell it again for the audience. Years ago,

2047
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 2: many many years ago, when Nielsen ratings, which are the

2048
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 2: way we know what people listen to and watch, were done,

2049
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 2: they were sent out as a survey, right, and so

2050
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 2: everybody filled out a survey and told the world what

2051
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 2: they watched. So this is you know, back in the eighties.

2052
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 2: Back then the public radio MPR as it were, was

2053
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,719
Speaker 2: very highly rated because everybody liked to tell the world

2054
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 2: that they listened to NPR because it made you feel smart.

2055
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,280
Speaker 2: But then the first year that they came out with

2056
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 2: these little devices that you wore that suddenly tracked your ratings,

2057
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:49,680
Speaker 2: that it was able to listen to the station and

2058
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 2: tell you like you know, and tell the Nielsen people

2059
01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:55,519
Speaker 2: what people are listening to in cars. What they found

2060
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 2: was that the first thing that just got hammered was MPR.

2061
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 2: And it turned out that we live in a society

2062
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 2: that likes to tell people they read the news, likes

2063
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 2: to tell people they read books, but really it's kind

2064
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 2: of like book you know, a book club that's really

2065
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 2: a wine club. That's what the whole world was doing

2066
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 2: with NPR. Everybody wanted to sound smart, but when you

2067
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 2: actually had to wear the device, it's like, turns out

2068
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 2: you don't actually listen to that at all. You just

2069
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 2: listen to vapid pop music, but you want it to

2070
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 2: sound deeper than that, right, Like.

2071
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 4: It turns out you watch Love Island.

2072
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 2: For me shamelessly. Like I'm in on trash TV. I'm

2073
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,720
Speaker 2: the first to admit that I can't tell you how

2074
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 2: to get to any news station on my YouTube TV.

2075
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 2: I don't even know where they are. Okay, So I'm

2076
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:38,759
Speaker 2: going to admit my own stupidity and vapidness. That's fine.

2077
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 2: I think that we need that wake up call when

2078
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:43,160
Speaker 2: it comes to the way we talk about athletes, because

2079
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 2: it's really easy to sit here and say, you know what,

2080
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 2: like empowerment. If somebody doesn't want to be drafted, they

2081
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:53,000
Speaker 2: shouldn't have to be drafted. If if somebody wants fully

2082
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 2: guaranteed contracts, they should get fully guaranteed contracts. But we're

2083
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,479
Speaker 2: going to see the living, eating, breathing example of this

2084
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 2: in October because right now, no matter the reason, whatever

2085
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 2: we want to say, the reason is Caitlin or more.

2086
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:07,599
Speaker 2: The WNBA is more popular than it has ever been.

2087
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,599
Speaker 2: And you know they are using uh, they're using their

2088
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 2: platform right now to remind everybody that they are up

2089
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 2: in October, the collective bargaining agreement is up, and the

2090
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:21,559
Speaker 2: players want their fair share. In fact, Sophie Cunningham before

2091
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 2: the National Game last week, when she was interviewed on

2092
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 2: the on the court that she took that time to say, hey,

2093
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 2: we want our fair share. Like I feel like it's

2094
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 2: Eddie Murphy raw half, Eddie, I want Eddie, I want half.

2095
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 2: That's it. They're just coming out. They're screaming they want

2096
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:37,439
Speaker 2: their fair share. And I think what sometimes athletes forget

2097
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,840
Speaker 2: is that it's really cute for all of us to

2098
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,719
Speaker 2: say as fans that we care about players getting our half,

2099
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:46,719
Speaker 2: but what we really care about is watching our favorite

2100
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 2: sports without an interruption. Like I I will constantly die

2101
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 2: on the hill that if every NFL player decided tomorrow

2102
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 2: that they were going to hold out, they were simply

2103
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:56,960
Speaker 2: not going to play. If all the NFL teams went

2104
01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 2: to scap players, in the modern society, we would watch

2105
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 2: and as long as my replacement Raiders are better than

2106
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:05,639
Speaker 2: somebody else's replacement Broncos, that's all I'm gonna care about.

2107
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 2: Like that is all. At some point, we as a

2108
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:12,640
Speaker 2: society care most about just being able to watch what

2109
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 2: we want to watch without interruption, So we say we

2110
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 2: care about, oh, make sure players have empowerment. But the living, eating,

2111
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 2: breathing example, Like, I genuinely believe that any sort of

2112
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 2: a holdout, lockout contentious situation would be the worst thing

2113
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 2: that could possibly happen for the WNBA.

2114
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 3: It would kill the momentum that they've worked so hard

2115
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 3: over so many years to try and find to try

2116
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 3: and make this league into something that's profitable. And it's

2117
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:43,240
Speaker 3: still super lopsided in terms of how much. I mean,

2118
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 3: what was the percentage It's like twenty five percent or

2119
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 3: twenty six percent of the league's total revenue that Caitlin

2120
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 3: Clark alone accounts for. Madness, right, That is something that

2121
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 3: I think.

2122
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 4: Self awareness is. Self awareness is.

2123
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 3: Key when it comes to athletes positions in these negotiations,

2124
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,639
Speaker 3: because there's nothing wrong with taking advantage of your leverage,

2125
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 3: but you have to make sure that the leverage is

2126
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 3: there to be found in the first place.

2127
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 4: FITZI.

2128
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 3: We talked about this months ago with the national story

2129
01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 3: that was the Tennessee quarterback situation. Niko Iamaliava leveraging, trying

2130
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:23,879
Speaker 3: to leverage his situation because he plays the most valuable position.

2131
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 3: He was making a sum of about two point three

2132
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 3: I think it's not reported because you can't quantifiably know

2133
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 3: what these kids are making. But ballpark two point three

2134
01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 3: million dollars a year from the University of Tennessee, he

2135
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 3: wanted to make closer to four. He decided he was

2136
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 3: going to skip his team's first day of practice. Tennessee

2137
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 3: called his bluff and said, you know what, We're good here.

2138
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 3: We don't need you. We'll figure it out. We're not

2139
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,599
Speaker 3: going to pay you for somebody who just got waxed

2140
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,599
Speaker 3: in the college football playoff and the golf between us

2141
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 3: in Ohio State was big with you, much less without you.

2142
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 3: Will figure it out elsewhere and we'll see if we

2143
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 3: can't make our money work in a couple of different ways.

2144
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 3: And Nico Iamaliava is now playing for UCLA, where he

2145
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:10,160
Speaker 3: will make ballpark nine hundred thousand dollars, down from two

2146
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 3: point three million, because he's going from Knoxville, Tennessee and

2147
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 3: the state income taxes that don't exist in the state

2148
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:19,440
Speaker 3: of Tennessee to Los Angeles, where he will make considerably

2149
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 3: less and pay considerably more in his tax situation. His

2150
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 3: football playing career will probably not amount to much playing

2151
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 3: for UCLA as opposed to the profile and the kind

2152
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:33,000
Speaker 3: of games that he will play in the SEC or

2153
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 3: would play in the SEC and Tennessee. Will you know,

2154
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 3: try and figure it out with Joey Aguilar this year

2155
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,360
Speaker 3: and maybe they won't have a great season, but they'll

2156
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 3: figure it out in the long term.

2157
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 4: Nico overplayed his hand.

2158
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 3: Even though there was leverage there to be had he

2159
01:42:47,080 --> 01:42:50,800
Speaker 3: went too far. The WNBA players are going to have

2160
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 3: to tow this fine line between there is leverage here,

2161
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:57,520
Speaker 3: we need to make more money. Caitlin Clark's rookie contract,

2162
01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 3: and I know she's making you know, millions from state

2163
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,520
Speaker 3: farm commercials and things like that, so she's not hurting necessarily,

2164
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 3: But the fact that her base salary is like right

2165
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:10,360
Speaker 3: around the average median household income in the United States

2166
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 3: of America is criminal for the amount of attention and

2167
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 3: skill that she deserves to be paid for. But she

2168
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 3: is a very there's Caitlin Clark and there's the rest

2169
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 3: of the WNBA, and the rest of the WNBA has

2170
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 3: not yet caught up to that fact, which is why

2171
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:30,559
Speaker 3: there's resentment between the other players and Caitlyn Clark.

2172
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:31,760
Speaker 4: You see that play out on the court.

2173
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 3: Sophie Cunningham has been a big part of this in

2174
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 3: the way that she's.

2175
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 4: Had to protect Caitlin Clark. The league is not going to.

2176
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 3: Go out of their way to protect that player, although

2177
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 3: they will make sure that they do as many things

2178
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:45,799
Speaker 3: to make sure that she is as available as humanly possible,

2179
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:48,320
Speaker 3: because they understand that the ratings take a dive when

2180
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 3: she's not playing. She's out with the groin injury right now,

2181
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 3: she's already missed some time with injury this season. The

2182
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 3: amount of the amount that the ratings drop off when

2183
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 3: she's not out there just due to injury is insane.

2184
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 3: So how they toe that line this October when they're

2185
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:08,960
Speaker 3: renegotiating their rights and trying to find a more equitable solution. Again,

2186
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 3: as we talked about, they need to take advantage of

2187
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 3: any leverage that exists. But there's a reality in what

2188
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 3: you're saying about fans are going fans are going to

2189
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:20,679
Speaker 3: be on your side to a point until it starts

2190
01:44:20,680 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 3: to affect them, and once you start to impact their

2191
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 3: ability to watch games or watch their favorite players, they're

2192
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 3: going to very quickly switch from.

2193
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:30,800
Speaker 4: The side of labor to the side of management.

2194
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 3: Because for some reason, even though most fans are labor,

2195
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:36,479
Speaker 3: they're going to take management side almost ten times out

2196
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 3: of ten.

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2204
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:59,759
Speaker 2: is amazing to me what you just said. In general,

2205
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 2: most people going to work today are sitting here saying

2206
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 2: get yours to every other employee, and whatever you have

2207
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 2: to do. You know, it doesn't matter. Nobody's sitting here

2208
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 2: saying if you work for Apple. Nobody is sitting here saying, well,

2209
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 2: you know what, the more we all get paid, the

2210
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 2: more they're going to charge for that iPhone, like nobody's

2211
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 2: sitting there. The thing nobody's sitting here saying, and this

2212
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:23,640
Speaker 2: is a much deeper economics conversation than anybody wants to

2213
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 2: have this early in the morning. But nobody seemed to

2214
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 2: want to sit back and say, if we raise the

2215
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:32,120
Speaker 2: minimum wage for employees at McDonald's, McDonald's is simply going

2216
01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 2: to raise the prices. And then we're all shell shocked

2217
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 2: a few years later, like nobody's sitting here saying, okay,

2218
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:41,439
Speaker 2: like where what are the companies doing? But sports fans,

2219
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 2: that's where that's where it changes. And part of this

2220
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 2: is because all sports fans comes back to what you

2221
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 2: said at the beginning of the show. All fans want

2222
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 2: is just to watch their favorite team win. Notice you

2223
01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 2: mentioned Nico and Tennessee. If you listen to the talking

2224
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 2: heads around college football, the sky is falling and this

2225
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 2: is the worst it's ever been because of nil and

2226
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 2: because of pay to play, and now they've got these

2227
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,640
Speaker 2: salary cap systems and blah blah blah blah blah. You

2228
01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 2: know who's not complaining about this at all? The Georgia fans,

2229
01:46:12,000 --> 01:46:14,599
Speaker 2: the Alabama fans, the Ohio state fans and Michigan fans,

2230
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:17,519
Speaker 2: the fans that can afford it, they don't give it, damn.

2231
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 2: The only people complaining about it are the people that

2232
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 2: are worried that they're going to be left as the

2233
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 2: have nots. So if you talk to people that are

2234
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:26,760
Speaker 2: fans of, you know, a group of five team, or

2235
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 2: if you talk to people that are fans of an

2236
01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 2: ACC team, that might be forgotten. If you're talking to

2237
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 2: fans of whatever program just is on that cusp of

2238
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:36,920
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to compete in the modern

2239
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 2: economic cycle. Those are the fans that are complaining about it.

2240
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 2: But the reality of it is most fans simply say

2241
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:44,760
Speaker 2: I want the athlete to get paid. I want the

2242
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 2: athlete to get paid. But what they really mean is

2243
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:48,439
Speaker 2: I want everybody to get as much as they can

2244
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:51,040
Speaker 2: as long as my favorite team continues to win and

2245
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 2: my consumption of the sport isn't interrupted. Like Sophie Hunningham

2246
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 2: is a great example of somebody who, after she defended

2247
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark on the court, came out she blew up

2248
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 2: on social media. Her price per post of social media

2249
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:08,719
Speaker 2: has changed, like her overall platform has changed just by

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01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 2: being around Caitlin right, Like that's real, real economic difference

2251
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:16,240
Speaker 2: to her every single day. But there is a narrative

2252
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 2: around the WNBA, particularly where people will turn around and

2253
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:22,760
Speaker 2: immediately talk about the profitability of the NBA versus profitability

2254
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:26,520
Speaker 2: of the W without realizing the nuances in the percentages,

2255
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 2: Like what percentage of the overall income of a team

2256
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 2: goes to the players? That's what really they're negotiating. Nobody

2257
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 2: cares about that as long as they can continue to

2258
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 2: see the players play. The minute the players, particularly for

2259
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 2: the W, decide that they're going to fight for whatever

2260
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 2: they deserve to fight for. I genuinely believe there will

2261
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 2: be a massive blowback from every casual that sort of

2262
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 2: cares and from every person that loudly doesn't care about

2263
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 2: the W. It will force a narrative that these women

2264
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 2: are out there trying to get more than their fair

2265
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:59,400
Speaker 2: share and like they don't understand where their league really is.

2266
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 2: Like some of those are uneducated narratives, and they are

2267
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:05,839
Speaker 2: going to be absolutely hammered home and they will become

2268
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 2: the truth like it or not. If WNBA players don't

2269
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:13,000
Speaker 2: understand exactly where the line is between pushing and pushing too.

2270
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 3: Hard, yeah, it's I mean, it's unfortunate the way that

2271
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:19,639
Speaker 3: that works though, right, But like to what you're saying,

2272
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:23,599
Speaker 3: it will become the reality whether or not it is

2273
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:27,120
Speaker 3: fact based, if that's the if that's the path that

2274
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 3: they choose to take, especially if they're combative with it,

2275
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 3: and they have a right to be. They have fought

2276
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 3: and strived to avoid having to do. And you know,

2277
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 3: not to relitigate the entire Britney Grinder situation, but like

2278
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:42,560
Speaker 3: the entire reason that Britney Grinder is playing basketball in

2279
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:45,680
Speaker 3: Russia is because the WNBA players don't make enough, right, Like,

2280
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 3: these players are playing basketball year round because they're having

2281
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:50,120
Speaker 3: a supplement their income.

2282
01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:51,719
Speaker 4: And I know most people would think.

2283
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 3: I think there's a perception versus reality situation that is

2284
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 3: unique to women's basketball fit Sie where people will assume

2285
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 3: boom that professional athletes make X amount of money, when

2286
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:07,719
Speaker 3: in reality, your average WNBA basketball player is probably making

2287
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:10,760
Speaker 3: about what you're making on a regular basis. As far

2288
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:14,880
Speaker 3: as your average income, that is not that is not sustainable,

2289
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,680
Speaker 3: especially when the game checks go away and you get

2290
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:20,760
Speaker 3: into the offseason and you're having to find different things. Now,

2291
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 3: social media and advertisement deals can help you with this,

2292
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 3: But how many WNBA players are really getting the kind

2293
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:32,200
Speaker 3: of advertising deals that would supplement their basketball playing income.

2294
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 4: Not that many.

2295
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 3: So you have a couple of different factors that you're

2296
01:49:36,160 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 3: working uphill against. If you're the WNBA players who are

2297
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 3: trying to renegotiate their position and who will renegotiate the

2298
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 3: position that they have to be they just have to

2299
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 3: be cognizant of They have to be aware that these

2300
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:49,559
Speaker 3: land mines exist. One, the fans think you make more

2301
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:54,200
Speaker 3: money than you do, right, That's that's not the reality,

2302
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 3: but that is the perception. The fans are going to

2303
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:59,639
Speaker 3: assume that a pro athlete, regardless of sport, is making

2304
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:02,720
Speaker 3: a sign amount of money. So they're already going to

2305
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 3: default into what is the common fan refrain, which is

2306
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 3: fine in some situations. You're a millionaire, What do I

2307
01:50:09,320 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 3: care about your complaints? Well, they're actually not right when

2308
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:15,720
Speaker 3: they're making seventy five or sixty five thousand dollars a

2309
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 3: year to play highly competitive sports. So you're fighting first

2310
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:25,520
Speaker 3: and foremost against that. Secondarily, and it's an awkward conversation

2311
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 3: for two white guys in their thirties and forties to have.

2312
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 3: But when because you see this play out politically too,

2313
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:37,960
Speaker 3: and you don't have to get into the political spectrum.

2314
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:38,240
Speaker 4: To understand this.

2315
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:43,800
Speaker 3: But when men are more demanding or more aggressive in

2316
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:47,240
Speaker 3: their position, they are not going to be received the

2317
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 3: same as a woman who takes the same tact, fairly

2318
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:53,520
Speaker 3: or unfairly. Right, there are always going to be stigmas

2319
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:56,760
Speaker 3: associated with the woman who has a strong voice, who

2320
01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 3: takes a strong position, who tries to leverage their situation.

2321
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 3: I don't think that you can ignore those factors in

2322
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 3: the middle of this as it relates to public perception. Now,

2323
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 3: maybe they're not interested in public perception. It just comes

2324
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 3: down to the negotiation between the players union and the league.

2325
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 3: But there is going to be some of this dialogue

2326
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 3: out there around this whenever it comes time in October

2327
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 3: for them to start to really ramp this thing up.

2328
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 4: There already is about it.

2329
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:28,679
Speaker 2: Now, there is a moment here. Actual numbers. According to Forbes,

2330
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 2: Mark Davis, the owner of the Raiders, bought the Las

2331
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 2: Vegas Aces in twenty twenty one for two million dollars.

2332
01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, he's invested money over forty million

2333
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:42,320
Speaker 2: dollars in a practice facility. So on and so forth.

2334
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:46,719
Speaker 2: As of right now, the valuation of the Las Vegas

2335
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:50,240
Speaker 2: aces is three hundred and ten million dollars. That is

2336
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 2: a fifteen thousand, four hundred percent increase from twenty twenty

2337
01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 2: one to twenty twenty five. Those are the sort of

2338
01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 2: real numbers that the players are trying to fight for.

2339
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 2: The problem is, we don't live in a nuanced, fact

2340
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 2: based society. We live in a scream at yell at

2341
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 2: and keep it general to society. So when people here,

2342
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:16,160
Speaker 2: well WNBA players aren't happy with the amount they get paid,

2343
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 2: immediately becomes well, they shouldn't make as much as the NBA. Again,

2344
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:22,600
Speaker 2: I don't think this is about that. I think this

2345
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 2: is about the fact that if you look at the NFL,

2346
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:28,759
Speaker 2: the collective Bargaining Agreement of the NFL says that forty

2347
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:32,600
Speaker 2: nine point whatever percent of the total revenue earned is

2348
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:35,640
Speaker 2: where the salary cap comes from. That's not an arbitrary

2349
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:37,800
Speaker 2: number that's just thrown into the sand. A lot of

2350
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:41,320
Speaker 2: people may not realize that, but essentially, if an NFL

2351
01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 2: team makes a billion dollars this year, then next year

2352
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:47,320
Speaker 2: the salary cap is set at five hundred million. That's

2353
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:50,320
Speaker 2: the way it goes, right, So very simple math. I

2354
01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 2: think what we miss sometimes not we, but a lot

2355
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 2: of people miss sometimes in the WNBA conversation, the players

2356
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 2: are not asking to make the same that the NBA

2357
01:52:58,160 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 2: is making. The players are asking to make the same

2358
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 2: percentage of the overall generated income for their team year

2359
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 2: in and year out as the NBA is making. In theirs,

2360
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 2: it's a much different. It's kind of like talking about

2361
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 2: crime rates, which just came up city to city if

2362
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 2: you are into politics, like it was a loud conversation about, well,

2363
01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 2: this state has more crime than that state. Okay, how

2364
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 2: many crimes versus crime rate? Very different conversation, right, like So,

2365
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 2: but the problem for the W is always going to

2366
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:26,679
Speaker 2: be that the haters are very loud, and it's super

2367
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 2: easy to simply give a generic piece of information and

2368
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:33,680
Speaker 2: have that fuel and entire percent Like, there is confirmation

2369
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 2: bias here. So if you think that the W, if

2370
01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 2: you're somebody that doesn't like the W, and you believe

2371
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 2: that they're already overpaid and the quality of place sucks

2372
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:43,600
Speaker 2: and that they shouldn't be asking for what they ask for,

2373
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 2: all you need to hear is they want more, and

2374
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 2: you've just immediately decided that they're absolutely ignorant. There are

2375
01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 2: people on the other side of it too. The truth

2376
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:54,080
Speaker 2: is someone in their middle. But I think the most

2377
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 2: important part of it to me is that there's an

2378
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 2: entire generation of fans that will be turned off of

2379
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 2: the process and completely if this gets ugly, and that's

2380
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:05,560
Speaker 2: a loss for the league. It's a loss for the players,

2381
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 2: it's a loss for everybody involved in It's just it's

2382
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:12,679
Speaker 2: a loss. Okay, we'll keep breaking it down. Also, as

2383
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 2: we continue to talk to WNBA. I know it's crazy,

2384
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 2: there is one franchise in the WNBA that is actually

2385
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 2: changing the entire path for the sport. We'll tell you

2386
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:23,760
Speaker 2: about it and why it matters to everybody, no matter

2387
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:25,599
Speaker 2: what's your fan of. Next these Buck Rising. I'm Jason

2388
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:27,599
Speaker 2: fitz We're hanging out with the on a Fox Sports Saturday.

2389
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:29,880
Speaker 2: All right, this is where I'm supposed to tell you

2390
01:54:30,360 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 2: that WNBA expansion I'm hearing is coming Monday. Big announcement

2391
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 2: I'm hearing coming Monday, which is significant for one reason. Valuation.

2392
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 2: The Valkyries. By the way, the most recent WNBA franchise

2393
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:47,560
Speaker 2: is currently the most valuable WNBA franchise, So look at

2394
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 2: MLS for a minute and understand how MLS crew. It's

2395
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:53,400
Speaker 2: almost like a Ponzi scheme. You just continue to take

2396
01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 2: money from expansion teams as part of the way that

2397
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 2: everybody splits that money. And then that way, even before

2398
01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 2: your teams are made money, you get revenue from the

2399
01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 2: team for their entrance fees and all of these things.

2400
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 2: So expansion coming Monday gonna be significant for the WNBA.

2401
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:11,480
Speaker 2: We'll see what city gets at expansion tea. But I'm

2402
01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:14,200
Speaker 2: mind blown here because I'm working with Buck Rising. I'm

2403
01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 2: Jason Fitz We're hanging out with you on the Fellows

2404
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio as we are. You can stream

2405
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:20,320
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2406
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:22,080
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2407
01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:24,840
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2408
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:26,840
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2409
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:29,000
Speaker 2: the app is that you can make Fox Sports Radio

2410
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 2: a preset, just like presets on a radio dial. So

2411
01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:34,880
Speaker 2: be sure to preset Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio

2412
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 2: app and it'll always pop up at the top of

2413
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 2: your screen. It's early in the morning for Buck Rising,

2414
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:43,240
Speaker 2: He's not usually up this early. Anthony Gargana with a

2415
01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:46,840
Speaker 2: much deserved weekend off. He's not usually up this early

2416
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 2: on a Saturday. I'll say it that way, Saturday morning,

2417
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 2: It's not true.

2418
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 3: Typically my workout is in ten minutes from now, even

2419
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:54,640
Speaker 3: on Saturdays.

2420
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:56,520
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, that's here.

2421
01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 2: You're over here, like I need coffee, coffee. And suddenly,

2422
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:02,760
Speaker 2: so I just thought maybe you were just being a

2423
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 2: whiny you know what, because you're not used to being

2424
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 2: up this surly, but you're whining about eating coffee. And

2425
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:11,200
Speaker 2: then I find out that you're considering, like literally getting

2426
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 2: coffee delivered to the studio so that you can have

2427
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 2: nice collee. Like one of our great debates is that

2428
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:20,800
Speaker 2: Buck Rising is the most elitist person I think. I know.

2429
01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 2: Now all of a sudden, I'm hearing that you are

2430
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 2: considering paying the feet which will make your cup of coffee.

2431
01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:30,480
Speaker 2: What fifteen bucks you can spend fifty? Like, do you

2432
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 2: do something for my bitch?

2433
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 4: Clo eighteen after tags, I just looked.

2434
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:36,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you just looked. You're gonna get it

2435
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 2: delivered for eighteen dollars. It hot coffee or cold coffee.

2436
01:56:39,520 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 3: It is an iced, okay spiced, dirty Indian Chai with

2437
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 3: an extra shot of espresso.

2438
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:49,920
Speaker 4: And whole milk.

2439
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 2: Okay, actually that does sound to listen like a dirty

2440
01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 2: DELIGHTA A dirty chi is a great, great, great drink

2441
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:58,800
Speaker 2: by a lot of calories. Though it's a lot of

2442
01:56:58,840 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 2: calories we feed back off.

2443
01:57:00,160 --> 01:57:03,960
Speaker 3: I'm going to work out later already, bray Fat shaming

2444
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:05,680
Speaker 3: me about the amount of money I'm spending on my

2445
01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:07,560
Speaker 3: health club in my gym to not have a six

2446
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:09,640
Speaker 3: pack where you go, you're gonna pile on here too.

2447
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just a little curious, Like, I mean, I

2448
01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 2: get the balance live. I just live, lived this elite life.

2449
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:18,600
Speaker 2: But you spend all this money on a gym, and

2450
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:21,000
Speaker 2: you spend all this money on like having a cryo

2451
01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 2: chamber at your fingertips whenever you want only to undo

2452
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 2: all the good like they always say, abservated in the kitchen,

2453
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 2: right eighty five percent of the time, like abservated in

2454
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 2: the kitchen. So like, is the dirty chi really the

2455
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 2: right approach for buck rising this early.

2456
01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 4: In the Like?

2457
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 3: Yes, I get my work, effeine, but I work out

2458
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 3: so I can eat the bad things that I like

2459
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:40,480
Speaker 3: to eat. That's the only reason that I'm interested in

2460
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:41,280
Speaker 3: working out at this.

2461
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:43,520
Speaker 4: Point in my life. I actually that's not true. I

2462
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:45,480
Speaker 4: genuinely enjoy it. Uh.

2463
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 3: But you know, listen, I there is nothing wrong with

2464
01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:54,160
Speaker 3: in a situation if it is not detrimental, like hugely

2465
01:57:54,280 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 3: detrimental to your bank account. There's nothing wrong with if

2466
01:57:57,640 --> 01:58:00,360
Speaker 3: you have been you don't get hungover anymore because you

2467
01:58:00,400 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 3: no longer drank, so you're better than the rest of us,

2468
01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 3: and that's fine.

2469
01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:06,040
Speaker 4: But if you are experiencing a situation, I count for something.

2470
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 2: I mean I a mile.

2471
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:10,880
Speaker 3: So all right, Petter, If you've popped a gummy and

2472
01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:13,520
Speaker 3: you have a craving for whatever it is that you've

2473
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:15,640
Speaker 3: got a craving for, but it's just one item.

2474
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 4: You don't want a whole meal.

2475
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:19,720
Speaker 3: Maybe you just want a soda as opposed to the

2476
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 3: entire fast food meal that you're thinking about ordering after

2477
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:26,800
Speaker 3: you've popped your ten milligram gummy. If you are telling me,

2478
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 3: Jason Fitz that you have never once contemplated the idea

2479
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:33,960
Speaker 3: of ordering a twelve dollars coke just to satisfy that itch,

2480
01:58:34,360 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 3: then I just I simply won't believe you.

2481
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:39,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I've contemplated it. But you also know, inherently

2482
01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:42,840
Speaker 2: to my core, I'm cheap, right, Like it is not.

2483
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 2: This is a There was a recent night that I was,

2484
01:58:46,160 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 2: you know, maybe fifty milligrams in and I opened up

2485
01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 2: door dash and I just I filled the whole cart

2486
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:53,320
Speaker 2: with everything that I was going to go get. I

2487
01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:55,720
Speaker 2: wanted from seven to eleven and everything. I was like,

2488
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 2: I've got this mapped out. I'm good. And then I

2489
01:58:57,840 --> 01:59:00,280
Speaker 2: looked at the total and I was like, Nope, not.

2490
01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:04,480
Speaker 4: Doing that restraint. See likes that's just good restraint.

2491
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:06,880
Speaker 3: Well but but it's it's like you were you were

2492
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 3: asking me, uh, I can't remember what the context, Oh

2493
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:13,000
Speaker 3: about my my lack of ubers and the fact that

2494
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:15,840
Speaker 3: I will take cards from the uber black cars that

2495
01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 3: I will take and uh make course, well, you know,

2496
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:20,880
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't wanna. I

2497
01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:23,280
Speaker 3: don't want to a car on three wheel wheels that

2498
01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 3: smells like somebody's bio.

2499
01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 4: I would like to enjoy my ride and have be.

2500
01:59:28,160 --> 01:59:31,880
Speaker 3: Able to select the setting that makes uh, that lets

2501
01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:33,440
Speaker 3: them know that I don't want to talk to them.

2502
01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 2: That's all right.

2503
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:40,080
Speaker 3: As a part of that elitism, you asked me how

2504
01:59:40,120 --> 01:59:40,960
Speaker 3: does it feel to be rich?

2505
01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 4: And I said, great, that's it. That's all it is. Baby.

2506
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:46,800
Speaker 3: If I if I want to order my eighteen dollar coffee,

2507
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:48,960
Speaker 3: then I'm going to order my eighteen dollar coffee if

2508
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:52,440
Speaker 3: it is within my means. Jason Fitz, It unbothered me

2509
01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 3: at all.

2510
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:57,000
Speaker 2: Uh, bree can you agree? Is this Brie's first time

2511
01:59:57,000 --> 01:59:58,680
Speaker 2: getting to deal with the two of us together early

2512
01:59:58,680 --> 01:59:59,800
Speaker 2: in the morning? Total elitists?

2513
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:00,000
Speaker 4: Right?

2514
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:01,360
Speaker 2: I mean, Breech just back me up here.

2515
02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:03,840
Speaker 8: But you know I have to agree with him because

2516
02:00:03,880 --> 02:00:07,160
Speaker 8: I've done that before too. Yes, And I hate to

2517
02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:07,720
Speaker 8: admit it.

2518
02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 9: Because i feel kind of bougie myself, but I'm so

2519
02:00:10,560 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 9: sorry if it's I hate to let you down, but I've.

2520
02:00:13,680 --> 02:00:17,920
Speaker 3: No, you don't apologize. It's us against the world.

2521
02:00:17,960 --> 02:00:22,360
Speaker 2: Bring you and me haves and the have nots. Mighty

2522
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:23,800
Speaker 2: Mark is going to be on my side. That's the

2523
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:25,480
Speaker 2: one thing I'm going to be sure of. I'm also

2524
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:28,760
Speaker 2: sure there's one conversation in the NFL that's not going

2525
02:00:28,840 --> 02:00:30,840
Speaker 2: to go away no matter what we tried to do.

2526
02:00:30,920 --> 02:00:32,440
Speaker 2: We'll tell you about it next on the Fellas on

2527
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:33,440
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

2528
02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:37,240
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

2529
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:41,080
Speaker 2: Happy Sports Saturday, Buck Rising, Jason Fitz hanging out with

2530
02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:43,920
Speaker 2: you on Fox Sports Radio. We've been kind of all

2531
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 2: over the place this morning on Ace Bailey deciding he

2532
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:49,760
Speaker 2: doesn't want to play for Utah or maybe he does,

2533
02:00:50,280 --> 02:00:53,200
Speaker 2: what the future of sports looks like, and collective bargaining

2534
02:00:53,240 --> 02:00:58,240
Speaker 2: the future of the college football landscape. We've been everywhere,

2535
02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:00,480
Speaker 2: but the one place we haven't been to, yeah, is

2536
02:01:00,520 --> 02:01:03,560
Speaker 2: the NFL, which is rare for this show. But let's

2537
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:05,800
Speaker 2: be honest for a minute. There's one conversation in the

2538
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:09,000
Speaker 2: NFL this year that's never going to go away, no

2539
02:01:09,080 --> 02:01:12,160
Speaker 2: matter how much we hate it, and it's Aaron Rodgers,

2540
02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 2: Buck Rising, Jason Fitz hanging out with you on Fox

2541
02:01:14,080 --> 02:01:16,160
Speaker 2: Sports Saturday. We'll get to Aaron Rodgers in a second.

2542
02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:18,360
Speaker 2: You just heard one of the craziest things in an

2543
02:01:18,440 --> 02:01:20,720
Speaker 2: update that I've heard in a long time when it

2544
02:01:20,760 --> 02:01:22,960
Speaker 2: comes to a final score, I don't know, major League

2545
02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:26,600
Speaker 2: baseball blowout. So let's before we get at any football talk,

2546
02:01:26,760 --> 02:01:29,480
Speaker 2: let's get to the Tyrack play of the day. Oh one,

2547
02:01:29,600 --> 02:01:32,720
Speaker 2: that's I'll ball out to deep right field? Does it

2548
02:01:32,840 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 2: have enup on it? It does?

2549
02:01:35,680 --> 02:01:39,480
Speaker 10: Into the seats, A two run homer for Gunner Henderson,

2550
02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:43,440
Speaker 10: his ninth of the season. Hey, the Orioles now have

2551
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:46,520
Speaker 10: a ten spot over the Rays eighteen to eight.

2552
02:01:47,960 --> 02:01:50,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that score made it eighteen to eight and on

2553
02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:54,280
Speaker 2: the way to a twenty two to eight win ORIOL

2554
02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:57,120
Speaker 2: Radio Network on the call there, great work by them

2555
02:01:57,160 --> 02:02:01,240
Speaker 2: as always in a wild, wild, wild outcome. To see

2556
02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:05,200
Speaker 2: that that many runs scored is absolutely incredible. Obviously, we

2557
02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 2: talk about that a long time. For over forty years,

2558
02:02:07,240 --> 02:02:09,440
Speaker 2: ti Iraq has been helping customers find the right tires

2559
02:02:09,440 --> 02:02:12,160
Speaker 2: for how, what and where they drive. Ship Fast and

2560
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Speaker 2: installation options like mobile tire installation tirac dot com the

2562
02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:21,440
Speaker 2: way tire brin should be with the ti Raq play

2563
02:02:21,480 --> 02:02:24,160
Speaker 2: of the day, Buck, do you know, like I'm gonna

2564
02:02:24,160 --> 02:02:27,000
Speaker 2: give you a surprising fact about me particularly good at

2565
02:02:27,040 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 2: changing tires. I'm not a man's man, you know, I'm

2566
02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:31,640
Speaker 2: not a man's man. But if you got if you've

2567
02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:33,600
Speaker 2: got a blown tire on the side of the road

2568
02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:35,960
Speaker 2: and you need somebody to come jack that thing up

2569
02:02:35,960 --> 02:02:38,120
Speaker 2: and get the tire off, getting another like, I'm basically

2570
02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:40,320
Speaker 2: straight out of a NASCAR pit crew, I am. I

2571
02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:44,440
Speaker 2: am efficient and I would say almost expert level at

2572
02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:45,320
Speaker 2: changing a tire.

2573
02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:49,560
Speaker 3: Good sir, that's admirable. I suppose I can respect that.

2574
02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:51,760
Speaker 3: I'm never going to do it in my life, but

2575
02:02:51,840 --> 02:02:54,120
Speaker 3: I love for I love that for you. I'm happy

2576
02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:54,520
Speaker 3: for you.

2577
02:02:56,040 --> 02:02:57,000
Speaker 2: I blow.

2578
02:02:57,080 --> 02:02:59,120
Speaker 4: I blow a tire on the highway A couple of

2579
02:02:59,200 --> 02:02:59,560
Speaker 4: years ago.

2580
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:01,760
Speaker 3: I was actually lay on my way to catch a

2581
02:03:01,800 --> 02:03:05,320
Speaker 3: flight to Vegas for a bachelor party. And I'm coming back,

2582
02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:10,800
Speaker 3: coming back towards Nashville, downtown Nashville to go out east

2583
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:13,240
Speaker 3: towards the airport, and I blew a tire on a highway.

2584
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:15,880
Speaker 3: And I've got Triple A. And I called Triple A

2585
02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:17,960
Speaker 3: and said, hey, I blew out a tire. Can you

2586
02:03:18,280 --> 02:03:19,880
Speaker 3: can you come fix me up? And he said, do

2587
02:03:19,920 --> 02:03:21,800
Speaker 3: you have a spare tire? And I said, where would

2588
02:03:21,840 --> 02:03:22,560
Speaker 3: that be located?

2589
02:03:26,760 --> 02:03:27,080
Speaker 4: Buddy?

2590
02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:31,120
Speaker 3: I couldn't find the battery in my card. Somebody asked

2591
02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 3: me for a jump. You want to talk about not

2592
02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:35,320
Speaker 3: being able to do man's man type of stuff or

2593
02:03:35,440 --> 02:03:39,160
Speaker 3: just really even baseline functionality when it comes to operating

2594
02:03:39,200 --> 02:03:42,760
Speaker 3: and owning an automobile. I'm calling Triple A if my

2595
02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:43,800
Speaker 3: gaslight comes on.

2596
02:03:45,280 --> 02:03:46,480
Speaker 2: I respect look.

2597
02:03:47,120 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 4: The respect it. I don't think you do. I don't

2598
02:03:49,480 --> 02:03:49,880
Speaker 4: think you do.

2599
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:52,160
Speaker 2: Like No, I mean, look, I know nothing about cars.

2600
02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:54,320
Speaker 2: I just know that, like I'm the person that pulls

2601
02:03:54,320 --> 02:03:57,120
Speaker 2: in and says, yeah, there's a like a weird noise

2602
02:03:57,160 --> 02:03:59,160
Speaker 2: happening over here. That's as close as I can come

2603
02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 2: to knowing anything about But I can change a tire,

2604
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:03,920
Speaker 2: so I feel good about that. I also feel good

2605
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:05,960
Speaker 2: about the podcast. By the way, shortly after the show,

2606
02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:07,920
Speaker 2: our podcast goes up. If you missed any of the show,

2607
02:04:08,080 --> 02:04:10,400
Speaker 2: check it out. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

2608
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:12,480
Speaker 2: get your pods, and be sure to follow and review

2609
02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 2: the podcast. Rate at five stars. Even if you don't

2610
02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:15,560
Speaker 2: like it, just rate it five stars.

2611
02:04:15,600 --> 02:04:16,200
Speaker 4: Damn it again.

2612
02:04:16,560 --> 02:04:18,960
Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you eat your podcast.

2613
02:04:19,000 --> 02:04:21,440
Speaker 2: You'll see today's show posted right after we get off

2614
02:04:21,440 --> 02:04:23,880
Speaker 2: the air. I feel, like, you know, belligerently badgering people

2615
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:25,840
Speaker 2: is always a great way to get a five star review.

2616
02:04:27,040 --> 02:04:30,800
Speaker 3: Earnestly, it's like Florio, thank you, why don't you care about?

2617
02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:35,600
Speaker 2: Why do I care about Aaron Rodgers? And I don't,

2618
02:04:35,880 --> 02:04:38,880
Speaker 2: but like I don't know. I saw the news last

2619
02:04:38,920 --> 02:04:41,520
Speaker 2: week where he says, you know, this is probably gonna

2620
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:44,920
Speaker 2: be my last year, and I just thought out loud,

2621
02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:47,720
Speaker 2: thank God, just because I'm so tired. I'm just tired

2622
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:49,760
Speaker 2: of the whole thing. I'm tired of the amount of

2623
02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:52,720
Speaker 2: weight we put into it. I'm tired of the amount

2624
02:04:52,760 --> 02:04:56,280
Speaker 2: of focus that goes into it. I just I don't

2625
02:04:56,360 --> 02:04:59,680
Speaker 2: think it goes anywhere. And the funny thing is this year,

2626
02:04:59,800 --> 02:05:02,440
Speaker 2: I squarely on record with you, I believe I said

2627
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:05,280
Speaker 2: earlier this year that I don't believe there's wins above

2628
02:05:05,320 --> 02:05:08,280
Speaker 2: replacement for Aaron Rodgers, above Mason Rudolph. That's how little

2629
02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:10,160
Speaker 2: I trust Aaron Rodgers to be able to get anything

2630
02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:13,200
Speaker 2: done for Pittsburgh. The problem is that still makes it

2631
02:05:13,240 --> 02:05:16,160
Speaker 2: a conversation. Like the weirdest part about Aaron Rodgers is

2632
02:05:16,160 --> 02:05:18,960
Speaker 2: that if it's great, we talk about it. If it sucks,

2633
02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:21,800
Speaker 2: we talk about it. If it's just mid We're still

2634
02:05:21,840 --> 02:05:24,160
Speaker 2: going to talk about it because Aaron Rodgers is always

2635
02:05:24,200 --> 02:05:27,360
Speaker 2: part of the conversation. So like this is the unescapable.

2636
02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:31,640
Speaker 2: It's like having the weird aunt at Thanksgiving that you

2637
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:33,440
Speaker 2: know is going to say something that makes the whole

2638
02:05:33,440 --> 02:05:35,560
Speaker 2: table uncomfortable and you're just gonna have to deal with it.

2639
02:05:35,720 --> 02:05:37,680
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about Aaron Rodgers coming into this

2640
02:05:37,840 --> 02:05:40,040
Speaker 2: entire season. There's nothing we can do to ignore it.

2641
02:05:40,040 --> 02:05:44,520
Speaker 3: It's by his design, though he is the most irritating

2642
02:05:44,560 --> 02:05:48,600
Speaker 3: thing about him, and there are many, which is unfortunate

2643
02:05:48,720 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 3: because I so enjoy him, and I know it's been

2644
02:05:52,120 --> 02:05:54,280
Speaker 3: a long long time. This is the difficulty with the

2645
02:05:54,440 --> 02:06:01,320
Speaker 3: Rogers conversation. I can separate art from artist totally. You know,

2646
02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:03,600
Speaker 3: some people have issues with Lebron James and some of

2647
02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:05,400
Speaker 3: the stances that he's taken in his life, or the

2648
02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:07,840
Speaker 3: way that he conducts his business, or whatever the case

2649
02:06:07,840 --> 02:06:10,840
Speaker 3: may be. However you feel about Lebron James, you can

2650
02:06:10,920 --> 02:06:15,280
Speaker 3: probably still respect Lebron James the basketball player, whether he's forty,

2651
02:06:15,320 --> 02:06:19,120
Speaker 3: whether he's thirty, whatever the case may be. He is exceptional.

2652
02:06:19,280 --> 02:06:24,720
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers was exceptional. The difficulty now with Rogers, It's

2653
02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:27,920
Speaker 3: been a long long time since Aaron Rodgers has been

2654
02:06:28,120 --> 02:06:32,160
Speaker 3: that guy, since he's felt like Super Bowl Champion, first

2655
02:06:32,200 --> 02:06:36,760
Speaker 3: ballot Hall of Famer, one of the best, most talented

2656
02:06:36,920 --> 02:06:39,720
Speaker 3: throwers of the football you've ever seen in your lifetime,

2657
02:06:39,760 --> 02:06:43,560
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, He's been a shell of that for quite

2658
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:46,400
Speaker 3: some time. On top of all of the whether you

2659
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:51,280
Speaker 3: consider the behavior to be problematic or just obtuse, however

2660
02:06:51,320 --> 02:06:58,000
Speaker 3: you view him at this point, his public persona is

2661
02:06:58,160 --> 02:07:00,960
Speaker 3: not backed up or is no lawnger backed up by

2662
02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:04,240
Speaker 3: his play anymore, which is the particular frustration for me.

2663
02:07:04,320 --> 02:07:05,480
Speaker 4: And I'm not.

2664
02:07:05,520 --> 02:07:07,280
Speaker 3: Here to do the shut up and dribble thing, right,

2665
02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:10,560
Speaker 3: That's not my game by any stretch of the imagination.

2666
02:07:11,560 --> 02:07:16,000
Speaker 3: With him, though he counted, he just contradicts himself so

2667
02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:21,960
Speaker 3: often that he creates controversy where it need not be

2668
02:07:22,480 --> 02:07:27,280
Speaker 3: him talking about him going on McAfee recently and lashing

2669
02:07:27,280 --> 02:07:29,640
Speaker 3: out a little bit about people who are inquiring or

2670
02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:34,360
Speaker 3: asking questions about his recent marriage, when he himself volunteered

2671
02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:38,800
Speaker 3: that information to the public, to the media and by extension,

2672
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:43,040
Speaker 3: the public in his first appearance as a Pittsburgh Steeler,

2673
02:07:43,080 --> 02:07:44,400
Speaker 3: in his media availability.

2674
02:07:44,760 --> 02:07:46,640
Speaker 4: He is a public figure. He knows this.

2675
02:07:46,760 --> 02:07:49,440
Speaker 3: Then he has this whole thing about, well, when I retire,

2676
02:07:49,480 --> 02:07:50,440
Speaker 3: you're not going to hear from me.

2677
02:07:50,480 --> 02:07:51,240
Speaker 4: You're not going to see me.

2678
02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:54,120
Speaker 3: Dude, You tried to host Jeopardy in the middle of

2679
02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:56,440
Speaker 3: your playing career. What are you talking about. You have

2680
02:07:56,520 --> 02:08:01,960
Speaker 3: a weekly appearance, a paid weekly appearing, and on arguably

2681
02:08:02,000 --> 02:08:06,280
Speaker 3: the biggest sports talk show going right now with Pat McAfee.

2682
02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:08,200
Speaker 3: What do you mean we're not going to hear from you.

2683
02:08:08,200 --> 02:08:11,400
Speaker 3: You have created an ecosystem where all we can do

2684
02:08:11,600 --> 02:08:14,360
Speaker 3: is hear from you and about you at any given point,

2685
02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:17,680
Speaker 3: even when your play has fallen off to a point

2686
02:08:17,880 --> 02:08:21,080
Speaker 3: of damn near irrelevancy where you had less wins as

2687
02:08:21,120 --> 02:08:24,240
Speaker 3: a starting quarterback for the Jets than damn Zach Wilson

2688
02:08:24,280 --> 02:08:26,840
Speaker 3: did in his most recent year with the New York Jets.

2689
02:08:27,240 --> 02:08:31,880
Speaker 3: He I honestly want the Pittsburgh thing to work, like I.

2690
02:08:31,920 --> 02:08:34,160
Speaker 4: Want him to have the one last ride.

2691
02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:37,440
Speaker 3: I want him to get the Ray Lewis situation where

2692
02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:40,200
Speaker 3: you know, maybe Ray, maybe Ray went all the way

2693
02:08:40,240 --> 02:08:42,240
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl, won the Super Bowl in twenty

2694
02:08:42,280 --> 02:08:43,640
Speaker 3: twelve with that Flacco team.

2695
02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:46,280
Speaker 4: Maybe it doesn't have to be to that.

2696
02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:48,680
Speaker 3: Extreme, but I would love to see Aaron Rodgers be

2697
02:08:48,800 --> 02:08:52,080
Speaker 3: excellent at football again for no other reason than I

2698
02:08:52,280 --> 02:08:55,680
Speaker 3: genuinely enjoy Aaron Rodgers the football Aaron Rodgers the football player.

2699
02:08:55,720 --> 02:08:58,080
Speaker 3: I don't have to vibe with him as a person.

2700
02:08:58,160 --> 02:09:00,920
Speaker 3: I don't have to put a lot of interest or

2701
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:02,480
Speaker 3: investment in the things that he says.

2702
02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:04,080
Speaker 4: I just want to watch him play.

2703
02:09:05,200 --> 02:09:08,280
Speaker 3: And we've gotten so far removed from the point where

2704
02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:11,200
Speaker 3: we can just watch and enjoy Aaron Rodgers, the football

2705
02:09:11,240 --> 02:09:15,120
Speaker 3: player that I don't know if there's if there's putting

2706
02:09:15,280 --> 02:09:17,640
Speaker 3: Pandora back in the box at this point, because I

2707
02:09:17,640 --> 02:09:19,800
Speaker 3: think he's already out. He's already loose, and he's going

2708
02:09:19,880 --> 02:09:22,680
Speaker 3: to tell you about his ayahuasca trips and tell you

2709
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:25,240
Speaker 3: about his marriage, then chastise you for asking about his

2710
02:09:25,320 --> 02:09:25,840
Speaker 3: marriage and.

2711
02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:26,600
Speaker 4: All these other things.

2712
02:09:26,600 --> 02:09:30,120
Speaker 3: He's just it's just a bizarre situation constantly with him.

2713
02:09:30,920 --> 02:09:34,920
Speaker 2: I remember so many years ago being on a flight

2714
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 2: with the band. We were headed to La right, and

2715
02:09:39,440 --> 02:09:42,000
Speaker 2: three Perrys of the band Perry were all in first

2716
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:45,240
Speaker 2: class and before the rest of us were back in

2717
02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:48,400
Speaker 2: coach before we landed, like an hour before we landed

2718
02:09:48,400 --> 02:09:49,920
Speaker 2: from wherever we were coming from. It had been a

2719
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:53,440
Speaker 2: very long flight. They went into the bathroom in the

2720
02:09:53,480 --> 02:09:56,480
Speaker 2: airplane and they got full because they brought their makeup person.

2721
02:09:56,560 --> 02:09:59,040
Speaker 2: They got full hair and makeup done right. And then

2722
02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:01,200
Speaker 2: we got off the flight in la And for anyone

2723
02:10:01,200 --> 02:10:04,200
Speaker 2: that's ever flown into Lax, there's usually paparazzi around things

2724
02:10:04,240 --> 02:10:06,480
Speaker 2: like that. We get off the flight and the three

2725
02:10:06,520 --> 02:10:09,960
Speaker 2: of them are parading in full show clothes with full

2726
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:12,880
Speaker 2: hair and makeup done, and one of them made a

2727
02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:15,400
Speaker 2: comment as we were walking through the airport and said, man,

2728
02:10:15,640 --> 02:10:17,200
Speaker 2: it's just the worst. You can't even get off a

2729
02:10:17,200 --> 02:10:22,640
Speaker 2: plane without being photographed here. And I literally laughed as

2730
02:10:22,680 --> 02:10:25,080
Speaker 2: I was in a hoodie and sweats and a hat.

2731
02:10:25,120 --> 02:10:27,680
Speaker 2: Pulled that and I'm like hey, And I said to him,

2732
02:10:27,720 --> 02:10:30,520
Speaker 2: I was like, you can if you just act normal.

2733
02:10:31,240 --> 02:10:33,520
Speaker 2: I think about that all the time with Aaron Rodgers,

2734
02:10:33,520 --> 02:10:35,720
Speaker 2: because you sit down and you say, oh, I can't

2735
02:10:35,760 --> 02:10:37,960
Speaker 2: even live my normal life. I have to answer all

2736
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:42,400
Speaker 2: of these questions. You go on a wildly popular weekly

2737
02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:46,040
Speaker 2: daily show every single week for a paid appearance. They

2738
02:10:46,160 --> 02:10:50,320
Speaker 2: literally tell for anyone that doesn't know they the entire

2739
02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:54,040
Speaker 2: network is like, hey, Eron is coming on whatever Tuesday

2740
02:10:54,080 --> 02:10:56,240
Speaker 2: at this time. A note goes out to every show

2741
02:10:56,320 --> 02:11:00,200
Speaker 2: at ESPN, and then after his appearance, every portion it

2742
02:11:00,240 --> 02:11:03,040
Speaker 2: gets clipped by Pat McAfee's people and sent to each

2743
02:11:03,120 --> 02:11:05,600
Speaker 2: of the shows for anything that can be reacted to

2744
02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:09,640
Speaker 2: that happens every single week that he's on. So if

2745
02:11:09,680 --> 02:11:12,040
Speaker 2: he really wants the paparazzi not to stop him when

2746
02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:14,680
Speaker 2: he gets off the plane in La, don't get glammed,

2747
02:11:15,160 --> 02:11:17,480
Speaker 2: Like if you really want people to stop talking about you.

2748
02:11:17,680 --> 02:11:21,960
Speaker 2: Just stop making paid appearances where you talk about life

2749
02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:25,400
Speaker 2: like that's you know, the conversation it's creating. You can't

2750
02:11:25,400 --> 02:11:28,440
Speaker 2: play the victim and then also create the situation all

2751
02:11:28,480 --> 02:11:30,520
Speaker 2: at the same time. You just can't do it well.

2752
02:11:30,520 --> 02:11:36,480
Speaker 3: And it's it's kind of like so recently Anthony Richardson,

2753
02:11:36,520 --> 02:11:40,200
Speaker 3: the cults embattled quarterback, put out a rap video, right,

2754
02:11:40,840 --> 02:11:44,520
Speaker 3: And it's a very easy thing to dismiss Anthony Richardson,

2755
02:11:44,560 --> 02:11:46,640
Speaker 3: who has yet to produce as a football player, by saying,

2756
02:11:46,640 --> 02:11:50,480
Speaker 3: how could you possibly have any outside interests beyond focusing

2757
02:11:50,480 --> 02:11:52,360
Speaker 3: on what is your most important the thing, the reason

2758
02:11:52,400 --> 02:11:54,400
Speaker 3: that anybody would give you the opportunity or that you

2759
02:11:54,440 --> 02:11:57,840
Speaker 3: would have the financial wherewithal to put together a music video.

2760
02:11:57,920 --> 02:11:59,200
Speaker 4: You need to be better at football.

2761
02:11:59,200 --> 02:12:01,440
Speaker 3: Also, it doesn't help that he's talking about when he's

2762
02:12:01,480 --> 02:12:03,320
Speaker 3: on the field he's a saintan because he throws like

2763
02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:05,480
Speaker 3: Drew Brees. Come on, there could not be a more

2764
02:12:06,280 --> 02:12:10,160
Speaker 3: a more disparate comparison than Anthony Richardson and Drew Brees.

2765
02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:12,920
Speaker 3: But like I struggle with this sometimes, Fitzy, because I

2766
02:12:12,920 --> 02:12:15,640
Speaker 3: don't want to begrudge them when they have extra curriculars

2767
02:12:15,720 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 3: or outside interests, or they have other thoughts that are

2768
02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:20,640
Speaker 3: not purely football thoughts.

2769
02:12:21,040 --> 02:12:23,800
Speaker 4: But he my thing with Aaron Rodge.

2770
02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:25,760
Speaker 3: Did you ever watch that Netflix thing on him?

2771
02:12:26,320 --> 02:12:27,800
Speaker 2: No? I intentionally did not.

2772
02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:31,600
Speaker 3: And I think that's how a lot of people chose

2773
02:12:31,680 --> 02:12:32,480
Speaker 3: to go about it.

2774
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:34,240
Speaker 4: I will you want to.

2775
02:12:34,200 --> 02:12:37,080
Speaker 3: Talk about elitist one percent stuff that my my sauna.

2776
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:39,959
Speaker 3: You sit in the sauna by yourself, it as a Netflix,

2777
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:41,760
Speaker 3: it as a monitor, so you can watch Netflix in

2778
02:12:41,800 --> 02:12:45,360
Speaker 3: the sawa. So I will spend forty five minutes watching

2779
02:12:45,400 --> 02:12:46,879
Speaker 3: whatever I might find on Netflix.

2780
02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:47,320
Speaker 2: And I took.

2781
02:12:47,480 --> 02:12:49,680
Speaker 3: I took the first couple of episodes the last couple

2782
02:12:49,720 --> 02:12:51,680
Speaker 3: of times I've been to the health club to watch

2783
02:12:51,720 --> 02:12:54,560
Speaker 3: the Aaron Rodgers thing, and honest to God, fits I

2784
02:12:54,600 --> 02:12:58,280
Speaker 3: came away feeling bad for him because he just seems

2785
02:12:58,320 --> 02:13:01,680
Speaker 3: so deeply unhappy for somebody who has accomplished so much,

2786
02:13:01,760 --> 02:13:02,720
Speaker 3: like what are you chasing?

2787
02:13:03,320 --> 02:13:03,920
Speaker 4: So I don't.

2788
02:13:03,960 --> 02:13:06,960
Speaker 3: He may not have the answer to answers to these questions,

2789
02:13:06,960 --> 02:13:11,360
Speaker 3: he's clearly comfortable publicly pondering them at any given platform

2790
02:13:11,480 --> 02:13:14,480
Speaker 3: or or when he provides himself a platform or makes

2791
02:13:14,480 --> 02:13:18,040
Speaker 3: a platform for himself, but at some point for Aaron Rodgers,

2792
02:13:18,080 --> 02:13:21,440
Speaker 3: it's stopped being about just the work and it's become

2793
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:24,880
Speaker 3: something much larger. And maybe you know that threat is

2794
02:13:25,280 --> 02:13:29,360
Speaker 3: way easier to lose than people on our scale versus

2795
02:13:29,480 --> 02:13:34,040
Speaker 3: the scale of an internationally relevant and I know American

2796
02:13:34,080 --> 02:13:36,680
Speaker 3: football is not internationally relevant, but like Aaron Rodgers is

2797
02:13:36,680 --> 02:13:39,720
Speaker 3: as close to an internationally known athlete as you could

2798
02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:45,600
Speaker 3: probably find in the modern day NFL. He's chasing something

2799
02:13:45,600 --> 02:13:47,760
Speaker 3: that I don't even think he knows what he's looking for,

2800
02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:50,440
Speaker 3: and the fact that he's just he keeps putting himself

2801
02:13:50,440 --> 02:13:54,520
Speaker 3: in all of these different places and making it a misery.

2802
02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:57,480
Speaker 3: He makes himself more unhappy by doing of all of

2803
02:13:57,520 --> 02:13:59,160
Speaker 3: these things. And I just don't know how there's not

2804
02:13:59,240 --> 02:14:01,840
Speaker 3: somebody in his life who can't help him acknowledge that

2805
02:14:01,880 --> 02:14:04,000
Speaker 3: fact or help him find that fact. Like, I don't

2806
02:14:04,040 --> 02:14:06,280
Speaker 3: think I'm drawing any grand conclusions here. I don't think

2807
02:14:06,280 --> 02:14:08,760
Speaker 3: I'm having any kind of you know, epiphany that would

2808
02:14:08,800 --> 02:14:12,080
Speaker 3: be that would be any super thought provoking. I'm just like, dude,

2809
02:14:12,120 --> 02:14:14,960
Speaker 3: you seem miserable. Focus on the things that make you

2810
02:14:15,000 --> 02:14:16,760
Speaker 3: happy as opposed to the stuff that is going to

2811
02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:19,120
Speaker 3: continue to cause you these these level of problems and

2812
02:14:19,120 --> 02:14:21,440
Speaker 3: then for you to lash out publicly and make it

2813
02:14:21,480 --> 02:14:22,840
Speaker 3: so combative at every turn.

2814
02:14:23,000 --> 02:14:25,640
Speaker 4: I maybe maybe I'm oversimplifying.

2815
02:14:25,760 --> 02:14:27,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, but every time I look at him,

2816
02:14:27,800 --> 02:14:30,280
Speaker 3: I'm just made to feel sorry for him a little bit.

2817
02:14:30,840 --> 02:14:33,360
Speaker 2: It's magnified by the fact that he's not the player

2818
02:14:33,400 --> 02:14:36,640
Speaker 2: he once was. Well, you are the best of the best,

2819
02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:39,840
Speaker 2: will accept anything, but right now if you're a shell

2820
02:14:39,880 --> 02:14:42,480
Speaker 2: of what you used to be, which Aaron Rodgers is

2821
02:14:42,760 --> 02:14:45,880
Speaker 2: at this point, he's Axl Rose running around on stage

2822
02:14:45,920 --> 02:14:48,200
Speaker 2: today in leather pants is not the same as Axel

2823
02:14:48,280 --> 02:14:50,840
Speaker 2: Rose running around the stage and leather pants in the ages.

2824
02:14:50,920 --> 02:14:52,440
Speaker 4: Looks like a thumb wearing leather.

2825
02:14:53,040 --> 02:14:58,400
Speaker 2: Nobody wants fat Axel? All right, speaking of quarterbacks you

2826
02:14:58,440 --> 02:15:00,000
Speaker 2: mentioned and professional.

2827
02:15:00,680 --> 02:15:03,320
Speaker 4: The next segment, after nobody wants Fat Axel.

2828
02:15:03,400 --> 02:15:06,320
Speaker 2: You know what Fat Axel and Anthony richardson, We'll break

2829
02:15:06,320 --> 02:15:08,640
Speaker 2: it all down, he's motor Rising. On Jason Fitzefellas on

2830
02:15:08,720 --> 02:15:11,440
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Hi, this is Jay.

2831
02:15:11,640 --> 02:15:13,720
Speaker 5: I'm the producer of the Paula and Tony Fusco Show.

2832
02:15:13,880 --> 02:15:15,960
Speaker 5: Usually in these promos they ask you to listen to

2833
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:18,640
Speaker 5: the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen

2834
02:15:18,640 --> 02:15:21,280
Speaker 5: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who

2835
02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:23,960
Speaker 5: have the dumbest takes on sports imagicable. Don't listen to

2836
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:25,880
Speaker 5: the show so it can get camp the.

2837
02:15:27,480 --> 02:15:32,560
Speaker 2: Get him. Ignore that fool.

2838
02:15:32,720 --> 02:15:35,680
Speaker 6: Listen to the Tony Fusco Show on the iHeartRadio app

2839
02:15:35,760 --> 02:15:37,200
Speaker 6: or wherever you get your podcasts.

2840
02:15:37,240 --> 02:15:38,080
Speaker 2: He's still moving.

2841
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:42,880
Speaker 7: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2842
02:15:42,880 --> 02:15:46,240
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2843
02:15:46,400 --> 02:15:50,480
Speaker 7: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

2844
02:15:50,600 --> 02:15:51,280
Speaker 7: listen live.

2845
02:15:54,320 --> 02:15:57,640
Speaker 2: So fellas on Fox Sports Radio. Buck rising in for

2846
02:15:57,680 --> 02:16:00,680
Speaker 2: Anthony Gargano. I'm Jason Fitz hanging out with you, coming

2847
02:16:00,720 --> 02:16:04,480
Speaker 2: at you live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Got

2848
02:16:04,480 --> 02:16:07,080
Speaker 2: to give a shout out to Bree Mighty Mark working

2849
02:16:07,120 --> 02:16:09,520
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. They do great work every single weekend,

2850
02:16:09,720 --> 02:16:12,640
Speaker 2: but most importantly, they just put up with us. It's

2851
02:16:12,720 --> 02:16:15,240
Speaker 2: it's it's incredible. I realize like every time we go

2852
02:16:15,280 --> 02:16:17,400
Speaker 2: to break, because you know, Buck is in Nashville, I'm

2853
02:16:17,400 --> 02:16:19,560
Speaker 2: in Connecticut. Every time we go to break, we're sitting

2854
02:16:19,560 --> 02:16:21,839
Speaker 2: on FaceTime so we can see each other's pretty faces,

2855
02:16:21,920 --> 02:16:23,400
Speaker 2: and I feel like we just spend the whole time

2856
02:16:23,480 --> 02:16:27,000
Speaker 2: talking about the stupidest things and uh and credit to

2857
02:16:27,040 --> 02:16:30,840
Speaker 2: you guys. Really, bri I how you You've kept a

2858
02:16:30,840 --> 02:16:33,440
Speaker 2: beautiful attitude with a very weird episode of the Fellows

2859
02:16:33,440 --> 02:16:35,720
Speaker 2: this morning. So I appreciate you. I appreciate you being

2860
02:16:35,760 --> 02:16:36,600
Speaker 2: awesome as always.

2861
02:16:36,800 --> 02:16:38,000
Speaker 8: Of course it's super fun.

2862
02:16:38,000 --> 02:16:43,320
Speaker 2: You guys are great extra entertainment. Mighty Mark, go ahead, Buck.

2863
02:16:43,480 --> 02:16:46,080
Speaker 4: Are you too stuck with him? Every Saturday morning?

2864
02:16:46,600 --> 02:16:48,200
Speaker 8: Every Saturday morning?

2865
02:16:48,840 --> 02:16:49,960
Speaker 2: Stuck with good Side?

2866
02:16:49,959 --> 02:16:52,039
Speaker 3: I got stuck with you today. What do you mean

2867
02:16:52,080 --> 02:16:53,480
Speaker 3: you think I wanted to wake up at four I

2868
02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:54,280
Speaker 3: am to talk to you?

2869
02:16:54,879 --> 02:16:55,720
Speaker 4: Wow? Wow?

2870
02:16:56,120 --> 02:16:56,680
Speaker 2: Why Mark?

2871
02:16:57,120 --> 02:16:57,360
Speaker 4: Wow?

2872
02:16:57,560 --> 02:16:57,760
Speaker 2: Mark?

2873
02:16:58,840 --> 02:17:01,360
Speaker 3: Look there there are there are hours that I can

2874
02:17:01,400 --> 02:17:03,600
Speaker 3: call you that are not four am in the morning

2875
02:17:03,720 --> 02:17:04,320
Speaker 3: Central time.

2876
02:17:04,360 --> 02:17:06,959
Speaker 2: Bud, My question for you is did you get that

2877
02:17:07,040 --> 02:17:09,560
Speaker 2: eighteen dollars coffee delivered to the shirt?

2878
02:17:10,240 --> 02:17:13,360
Speaker 3: I'm excited, not you. It will be will be here

2879
02:17:13,480 --> 02:17:15,760
Speaker 3: by the end of the segment. I will sip it

2880
02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:19,000
Speaker 3: loudly in front of the microphone for our final segment together,

2881
02:17:19,840 --> 02:17:20,640
Speaker 3: a dirty.

2882
02:17:20,400 --> 02:17:22,520
Speaker 2: Chi with an extra shot, A bunch of calories you

2883
02:17:22,520 --> 02:17:23,200
Speaker 2: don't need for.

2884
02:17:23,440 --> 02:17:27,080
Speaker 3: I also have here the most elitest possible water that

2885
02:17:27,120 --> 02:17:28,280
Speaker 3: I could be drinking water.

2886
02:17:28,560 --> 02:17:29,760
Speaker 4: It's boxed water.

2887
02:17:30,160 --> 02:17:35,480
Speaker 3: With electrolyte hydration, naturally alkaline, pure taste, low mineral content.

2888
02:17:35,560 --> 02:17:38,880
Speaker 3: How about the mineral spring water with a low mineral content.

2889
02:17:38,959 --> 02:17:40,800
Speaker 4: How about that that's a bit of an oxymoron.

2890
02:17:41,440 --> 02:17:44,160
Speaker 2: I just, I mean, you do realize that things like,

2891
02:17:44,320 --> 02:17:47,039
Speaker 2: you know, just regular water. I'm over here, man of

2892
02:17:47,040 --> 02:17:50,160
Speaker 2: the people, with my dollar energy drink that's cut with

2893
02:17:50,320 --> 02:17:52,199
Speaker 2: soda water so that I try and make it last

2894
02:17:52,200 --> 02:17:57,480
Speaker 2: the whole show, not eighteen Yeah, rain It rain is

2895
02:17:57,520 --> 02:18:01,280
Speaker 2: the energy drink of choice this morning, the rainbow Sherbert rain.

2896
02:18:02,040 --> 02:18:04,039
Speaker 2: You know, there we go as opposed to you with

2897
02:18:04,080 --> 02:18:07,040
Speaker 2: their boxed water and eighteen dollars dirty chi with an

2898
02:18:07,040 --> 02:18:09,400
Speaker 2: extra You know, you could have just gotten coffee. You know.

2899
02:18:09,400 --> 02:18:11,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this, but coffee by

2900
02:18:11,240 --> 02:18:13,080
Speaker 2: itself would have been much healthier for you.

2901
02:18:13,720 --> 02:18:16,760
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, but that tastes better. Live a little old man.

2902
02:18:16,959 --> 02:18:18,320
Speaker 4: You're gonna be You're gonna be all right.

2903
02:18:19,320 --> 02:18:21,480
Speaker 2: You're not wrong, You're not wrong. The dirt a dirty

2904
02:18:21,520 --> 02:18:23,040
Speaker 2: chi does sound to life. I kind of want to

2905
02:18:23,040 --> 02:18:24,400
Speaker 2: go starbies and get one on the way to the

2906
02:18:24,400 --> 02:18:27,360
Speaker 2: gym after this. Okay, Anthony Richardson is gonna have plenty

2907
02:18:27,400 --> 02:18:29,200
Speaker 2: of time to drink whatever kind of water he wants,

2908
02:18:29,240 --> 02:18:31,680
Speaker 2: because I think he's pretty much done in Indianapolis. Look,

2909
02:18:32,959 --> 02:18:38,200
Speaker 2: I mean there is Daniel Jones is there to battle

2910
02:18:38,240 --> 02:18:41,000
Speaker 2: him for the job. And this is one thing that

2911
02:18:41,120 --> 02:18:44,240
Speaker 2: I think we need context on because, look, Anthony Richardson

2912
02:18:44,400 --> 02:18:46,520
Speaker 2: is sort of stuck at this point. I don't I'm

2913
02:18:46,520 --> 02:18:48,080
Speaker 2: not sure he's gonna be able to do enough to

2914
02:18:48,200 --> 02:18:50,959
Speaker 2: change any of the perception around him. But the one

2915
02:18:51,000 --> 02:18:53,760
Speaker 2: thing that needed to happen when he got drafted was

2916
02:18:53,800 --> 02:18:56,160
Speaker 2: he needed reps. He did time on task. That's why

2917
02:18:56,240 --> 02:18:59,959
Speaker 2: I believe his injury his rookie year was so unbelievably

2918
02:19:00,440 --> 02:19:03,600
Speaker 2: substantial to his development because the Colts were supposed to

2919
02:19:03,600 --> 02:19:06,959
Speaker 2: suck that year while Anthony Richardson got a whole season

2920
02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:10,800
Speaker 2: of just reps, and instead he didn't get those reps

2921
02:19:10,800 --> 02:19:13,840
Speaker 2: and the Colts were pretty good, and all of a sudden,

2922
02:19:13,959 --> 02:19:16,280
Speaker 2: then it changed the way we perceived the organization. It

2923
02:19:16,360 --> 02:19:17,959
Speaker 2: changed the way we perceived what was going to be

2924
02:19:17,959 --> 02:19:21,039
Speaker 2: expected of Anthony Richardson. So he goes into last year

2925
02:19:21,360 --> 02:19:24,160
Speaker 2: with these heightened expectations, still needing a bunch of time

2926
02:19:24,160 --> 02:19:27,000
Speaker 2: on task and looks just unprepared to handle it. I

2927
02:19:28,280 --> 02:19:30,520
Speaker 2: feel for Anthony Richardson because I feel like he's just

2928
02:19:30,840 --> 02:19:33,240
Speaker 2: he's stuck at this point and now he's gonna need

2929
02:19:33,280 --> 02:19:36,320
Speaker 2: a second chance somewhere else, and I just don't I

2930
02:19:36,360 --> 02:19:39,560
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know how you fix everything that

2931
02:19:39,640 --> 02:19:41,720
Speaker 2: he's gonna need fix to be the type of starter

2932
02:19:41,840 --> 02:19:44,320
Speaker 2: that his potential would have allowed him to be should

2933
02:19:44,320 --> 02:19:45,000
Speaker 2: he have ever met it.

2934
02:19:45,240 --> 02:19:46,560
Speaker 4: I don't feel bad for him at all.

2935
02:19:47,360 --> 02:19:50,200
Speaker 2: Because he's richer, because.

2936
02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:51,160
Speaker 4: He's lazy, well fitzy.

2937
02:19:51,280 --> 02:19:54,360
Speaker 3: He took himself out of a game on third down

2938
02:19:55,160 --> 02:19:59,680
Speaker 3: because he was tired, never in my life, and I

2939
02:19:59,760 --> 02:20:03,320
Speaker 3: under stand that he you know, he utilizes mobility as

2940
02:20:03,560 --> 02:20:05,680
Speaker 3: as a part of his game, and so maybe there

2941
02:20:05,760 --> 02:20:08,560
Speaker 3: is a level of exhaustion that he has versus a

2942
02:20:08,840 --> 02:20:10,880
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know how many standard drop back

2943
02:20:10,959 --> 02:20:12,680
Speaker 3: quarterback pocket quarterbacks were.

2944
02:20:12,600 --> 02:20:15,240
Speaker 4: Still running out there in the modern day NFL.

2945
02:20:15,920 --> 02:20:22,040
Speaker 3: But it's it's a lack of preparedness which also feeds

2946
02:20:22,080 --> 02:20:25,119
Speaker 3: into that which makes me think that it's not he's

2947
02:20:25,320 --> 02:20:28,959
Speaker 3: just not of the mental makeup or the the kind

2948
02:20:29,040 --> 02:20:34,400
Speaker 3: of the kind of intangible makeup required to one be

2949
02:20:34,560 --> 02:20:37,720
Speaker 3: worthy of a top five draft pick two to make

2950
02:20:37,760 --> 02:20:40,480
Speaker 3: it as a top five draft pick in the NFL fitsy.

2951
02:20:40,520 --> 02:20:41,840
Speaker 3: How many games of Colts win last year?

2952
02:20:43,200 --> 02:20:44,480
Speaker 2: Not an eight?

2953
02:20:44,280 --> 02:20:44,440
Speaker 4: Eight?

2954
02:20:45,360 --> 02:20:48,640
Speaker 3: They won eight. That's what I'm saying. They're not a

2955
02:20:48,680 --> 02:20:53,360
Speaker 3: bad football team. Shane Steichen manufactured out of smoke and

2956
02:20:53,879 --> 02:20:55,160
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco magic.

2957
02:20:55,680 --> 02:20:57,920
Speaker 4: Eight wins between that terrible.

2958
02:20:57,600 --> 02:21:00,920
Speaker 3: Quarterback situation that they had last year on a football team,

2959
02:21:01,000 --> 02:21:05,800
Speaker 3: that's not bad. Anthony Richardson's problem, to me is either

2960
02:21:06,360 --> 02:21:10,400
Speaker 3: a lack of competitive toughness or a lack of interest

2961
02:21:10,440 --> 02:21:12,400
Speaker 3: in the thing that is supposed to be the main thing.

2962
02:21:12,440 --> 02:21:15,119
Speaker 3: We brought up the wrap the rap video or earlier.

2963
02:21:15,120 --> 02:21:16,760
Speaker 3: Have you heard it. We can't play it on on

2964
02:21:16,920 --> 02:21:21,959
Speaker 3: FCCS fair because he there's a couple of profanities in

2965
02:21:22,000 --> 02:21:23,920
Speaker 3: there that would not that would not last.

2966
02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:26,960
Speaker 4: But you've heard the you've heard the snippet that made

2967
02:21:27,000 --> 02:21:27,480
Speaker 4: the rounds.

2968
02:21:28,160 --> 02:21:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's terrible. It's garbage. It is reflective of who

2969
02:21:32,120 --> 02:21:33,320
Speaker 3: he is as a football player.

2970
02:21:33,840 --> 02:21:36,400
Speaker 4: It is half assed.

2971
02:21:37,600 --> 02:21:40,360
Speaker 3: Done under the lighting of a gas station in a marathon,

2972
02:21:40,400 --> 02:21:43,600
Speaker 3: which is more popular for you know, as I continue

2973
02:21:43,640 --> 02:21:45,200
Speaker 3: to age, as I get into my thirties, and I

2974
02:21:45,200 --> 02:21:47,400
Speaker 3: look at people doing TikTok trends under the lighting of

2975
02:21:47,400 --> 02:21:49,119
Speaker 3: a gas station when they don't have a ring light

2976
02:21:49,480 --> 02:21:51,440
Speaker 3: to do it at home. I understand these things, but

2977
02:21:51,560 --> 02:21:57,360
Speaker 3: like he to me, embodies the worst case scenario when

2978
02:21:57,400 --> 02:21:58,279
Speaker 3: you draft a player.

2979
02:21:58,840 --> 02:22:01,440
Speaker 4: He's got all the talent in the world. He's got,

2980
02:22:01,560 --> 02:22:05,200
Speaker 4: he's the he's literally the most athletic quarterback in the

2981
02:22:05,280 --> 02:22:08,680
Speaker 4: history of combine testing. But he is not made of

2982
02:22:08,680 --> 02:22:10,360
Speaker 4: the right stuff that is going to make him last

2983
02:22:10,440 --> 02:22:14,839
Speaker 4: in the NFL. He he I would argue.

2984
02:22:14,879 --> 02:22:17,600
Speaker 3: Just because I cover Will lev I have covered Will

2985
02:22:17,680 --> 02:22:21,440
Speaker 3: Levis here, and Will Levis was a flaming disaster in

2986
02:22:21,480 --> 02:22:25,560
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. Anthony Richardson is worse because at least

2987
02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:29,520
Speaker 3: I know Will Levis works hard at least whatever his

2988
02:22:29,879 --> 02:22:33,080
Speaker 3: implosions in games, and they are implosions in games. You

2989
02:22:33,160 --> 02:22:36,240
Speaker 3: will never see a quarterback melt down as bad as

2990
02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:39,200
Speaker 3: Will Levis Is does on a regular basis at the

2991
02:22:39,240 --> 02:22:43,040
Speaker 3: worst possible times. But everybody that you talk to in

2992
02:22:43,040 --> 02:22:46,199
Speaker 3: that organization doesn't doubt the work ethic. He looks fine

2993
02:22:46,240 --> 02:22:49,520
Speaker 3: at practice, he knows the concepts and can operate and

2994
02:22:49,560 --> 02:22:51,840
Speaker 3: can communicate in the meeting rooms. He just gets into

2995
02:22:51,840 --> 02:22:56,320
Speaker 3: the games and he melts down. Anthony Richardson has neither

2996
02:22:56,400 --> 02:23:02,480
Speaker 3: the experience nor it seems the fortitude to try and

2997
02:23:02,520 --> 02:23:06,800
Speaker 3: push himself at the highest level of professional football. So

2998
02:23:06,840 --> 02:23:09,480
Speaker 3: it's already Daniel Jones's job as far as I'm concerned,

2999
02:23:09,520 --> 02:23:11,600
Speaker 3: and I'm pretty sure the Colts would feel that way too.

3000
02:23:12,879 --> 02:23:17,320
Speaker 2: It's interesting the way a lot of that comes across,

3001
02:23:17,360 --> 02:23:22,080
Speaker 2: because I can constantly say covering the draft, listen less

3002
02:23:22,080 --> 02:23:24,760
Speaker 2: to people that cover the NFL when it's time to

3003
02:23:24,800 --> 02:23:26,600
Speaker 2: talk about the draft, and listen to other people that

3004
02:23:26,640 --> 02:23:29,600
Speaker 2: cover college football, and absolutely, I just think if you

3005
02:23:29,760 --> 02:23:33,520
Speaker 2: skew your logic to less to someone that's watching the

3006
02:23:33,600 --> 02:23:36,520
Speaker 2: highlights and trying to figure it out, and more to

3007
02:23:36,600 --> 02:23:39,360
Speaker 2: somebody that's actually covering college football every single week, you

3008
02:23:39,360 --> 02:23:41,560
Speaker 2: get a better picture. A lot of the problems that

3009
02:23:41,560 --> 02:23:44,160
Speaker 2: we've seen with Anthony Richardson I think were somewhat predictable.

3010
02:23:44,160 --> 02:23:45,720
Speaker 2: That's why I thought it was a reach early in

3011
02:23:45,760 --> 02:23:48,760
Speaker 2: the first round. More often than not, if you just

3012
02:23:49,040 --> 02:23:52,120
Speaker 2: focus your attention to the guy being drafted to the

3013
02:23:52,160 --> 02:23:54,640
Speaker 2: opinion of college football minds around him, I think you

3014
02:23:54,680 --> 02:23:57,279
Speaker 2: actually get a much better sense of what to expect

3015
02:23:57,280 --> 02:23:59,560
Speaker 2: from a player. The hard part about it, and I

3016
02:23:59,560 --> 02:24:01,560
Speaker 2: will say with your rap video it made me think

3017
02:24:01,640 --> 02:24:05,800
Speaker 2: is something I just googled it. The career earnings for

3018
02:24:06,240 --> 02:24:09,039
Speaker 2: so far for Anthony Richardson are just shy of twenty

3019
02:24:09,040 --> 02:24:13,440
Speaker 2: five million dollars. When you listen to that video, or

3020
02:24:13,520 --> 02:24:16,720
Speaker 2: listen to that song and watch that video, ask yourself

3021
02:24:16,800 --> 02:24:18,920
Speaker 2: if it looks like it was done by somebody that

3022
02:24:18,959 --> 02:24:22,480
Speaker 2: had twenty five million dollars in the bank, Because, frankly,

3023
02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:25,840
Speaker 2: all I ask you know, it's that whole adage of

3024
02:24:25,879 --> 02:24:27,720
Speaker 2: how you do anything is how you do everything, like

3025
02:24:27,760 --> 02:24:31,480
Speaker 2: that football ism that rap video. While look, I think

3026
02:24:31,480 --> 02:24:34,320
Speaker 2: I think the song itself sucks. For my personal opinion,

3027
02:24:34,400 --> 02:24:36,760
Speaker 2: I don't think it's good. But music is very subjective.

3028
02:24:36,959 --> 02:24:40,160
Speaker 2: What isn't subjective subjective is the overall quality of the

3029
02:24:40,160 --> 02:24:42,840
Speaker 2: product that's put out. The video was not put out

3030
02:24:42,840 --> 02:24:44,800
Speaker 2: in a way that made you feel like, you know,

3031
02:24:44,879 --> 02:24:47,160
Speaker 2: it was done by a group of people that understand

3032
02:24:47,160 --> 02:24:49,520
Speaker 2: how to make a great video. The track isn't produced

3033
02:24:49,520 --> 02:24:51,240
Speaker 2: in a way that makes you feel like it was

3034
02:24:51,280 --> 02:24:54,920
Speaker 2: tracked by world class producers. He can afford those things.

3035
02:24:55,320 --> 02:24:57,280
Speaker 2: So to me, it just shows you yet again that

3036
02:24:57,400 --> 02:24:59,440
Speaker 2: you're just like, hey, I'm good at this. I'm gonna

3037
02:24:59,440 --> 02:25:01,400
Speaker 2: have a little fun I'm going to do this. I

3038
02:25:01,560 --> 02:25:03,560
Speaker 2: just I don't know that any of that takes the

3039
02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:06,520
Speaker 2: platform seriously enough. And it's that how you do anything

3040
02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:09,039
Speaker 2: is how you do everything. Like when's the last time

3041
02:25:09,080 --> 02:25:11,920
Speaker 2: we watched Anthony Richardson and thought, not, oh my god,

3042
02:25:11,959 --> 02:25:14,600
Speaker 2: what an athletic play, but thought, what a prepared moment

3043
02:25:14,600 --> 02:25:16,800
Speaker 2: in a football game. Like that's just a much different,

3044
02:25:17,320 --> 02:25:18,359
Speaker 2: much different beast.

3045
02:25:18,520 --> 02:25:21,360
Speaker 3: Your point about paying attention to people in the draft

3046
02:25:21,400 --> 02:25:25,640
Speaker 3: process who cover college football daily or you know, on

3047
02:25:25,720 --> 02:25:31,199
Speaker 3: a granular level, being way a way better predictive metric

3048
02:25:31,280 --> 02:25:32,720
Speaker 3: of what these players are going to do, because we

3049
02:25:32,760 --> 02:25:34,680
Speaker 3: brought up two players to play in the SEC, Will

3050
02:25:34,760 --> 02:25:38,240
Speaker 3: Levison and Anthony Richardson, and anybody who covered college football,

3051
02:25:38,280 --> 02:25:40,800
Speaker 3: particularly the best college football conference would have looked around

3052
02:25:40,840 --> 02:25:43,160
Speaker 3: and said, yeah, shocking to know one that Will Levis

3053
02:25:43,200 --> 02:25:46,240
Speaker 3: and Anthony Richardson aren't good NFL football players. They weren't

3054
02:25:46,320 --> 02:25:49,200
Speaker 3: very good college football players. Shocking to know one that

3055
02:25:49,240 --> 02:25:51,640
Speaker 3: the things that held them back as college football players

3056
02:25:51,840 --> 02:25:54,320
Speaker 3: would also plague them at the highest level of the sport,

3057
02:25:54,640 --> 02:25:56,640
Speaker 3: even though both of them can throw in a country

3058
02:25:56,680 --> 02:25:59,840
Speaker 3: mile and Anthony Richardson is hyper athletic and Will le

3059
02:26:00,400 --> 02:26:04,400
Speaker 3: looks the part so much so that Hellman's Mayonnaise did

3060
02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:08,920
Speaker 3: a full national television commercial campaign around a guy that

3061
02:26:09,000 --> 02:26:11,959
Speaker 3: went viral for a TikTok thing before he'd done a

3062
02:26:12,040 --> 02:26:15,320
Speaker 3: damn bit of anything in the NFL. It is it's

3063
02:26:15,360 --> 02:26:17,000
Speaker 3: something that I think you're going to see more of

3064
02:26:17,080 --> 02:26:20,560
Speaker 3: where the nil stuff comes into play. You'll also see

3065
02:26:20,640 --> 02:26:24,880
Speaker 3: more financially prepared athletes as a as a Devil's advocate argument,

3066
02:26:24,920 --> 02:26:26,760
Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be good stories and there's gonna

3067
02:26:26,760 --> 02:26:30,280
Speaker 3: be bad stories on both sides of things. But I

3068
02:26:30,440 --> 02:26:36,640
Speaker 3: just if you are an NFL scouting operation, an NFL

3069
02:26:36,680 --> 02:26:40,440
Speaker 3: front office and you struggle this much with the idea

3070
02:26:40,480 --> 02:26:45,160
Speaker 3: of production or potential, the first round fits me.

3071
02:26:45,400 --> 02:26:48,680
Speaker 4: To me, it seems potential is always going to win.

3072
02:26:48,560 --> 02:26:50,520
Speaker 3: Out in some form of fashion because there is so

3073
02:26:50,680 --> 02:26:54,240
Speaker 3: much in NFL coaching. Oh, I can fix that guy. No,

3074
02:26:54,560 --> 02:26:56,320
Speaker 3: I know how to get the most out of that guy.

3075
02:26:56,320 --> 02:26:59,160
Speaker 3: Billy Napier. Yeah, that guy in Florida, Well whatever, he's

3076
02:26:59,480 --> 02:27:02,400
Speaker 3: you know, he's struggling in in game situations.

3077
02:27:02,480 --> 02:27:03,240
Speaker 4: He's struggling.

3078
02:27:03,600 --> 02:27:07,039
Speaker 3: He's not been bad at recruiting actually, but like I

3079
02:27:07,120 --> 02:27:09,120
Speaker 3: can do a better job than Billy Napier did with

3080
02:27:09,200 --> 02:27:09,800
Speaker 3: him at Florida.

3081
02:27:09,800 --> 02:27:10,879
Speaker 4: What does Billy Napier know?

3082
02:27:11,360 --> 02:27:15,439
Speaker 3: Just speaking as a general NFL holier than thou perspective,

3083
02:27:15,680 --> 02:27:18,680
Speaker 3: And so often NFL teams get in over their skis

3084
02:27:19,000 --> 02:27:22,360
Speaker 3: and they churn and burn these kids. NFL organizations are

3085
02:27:22,360 --> 02:27:24,960
Speaker 3: failing these players as much as the players are failing

3086
02:27:25,000 --> 02:27:29,240
Speaker 3: these organizations. Anthony Richardson has some responsibility here, of course

3087
02:27:29,320 --> 02:27:32,840
Speaker 3: he does, absolutely he does. But the NFL organization that

3088
02:27:32,879 --> 02:27:35,240
Speaker 3: thought him worthy of the number four overall draft pick

3089
02:27:35,280 --> 02:27:38,039
Speaker 3: and ignored clear and obvious signs that this was a

3090
02:27:38,040 --> 02:27:41,439
Speaker 3: player that was going to have at least some struggles

3091
02:27:41,520 --> 02:27:44,039
Speaker 3: at the next level that would take some time for

3092
02:27:44,160 --> 02:27:47,119
Speaker 3: him to rectify that probably weren't going to be benefited

3093
02:27:47,160 --> 02:27:49,200
Speaker 3: by playing him right away, even though the thing that's

3094
02:27:49,320 --> 02:27:51,400
Speaker 3: the biggest thing about Anthony Richardson.

3095
02:27:51,040 --> 02:27:53,640
Speaker 4: Is he just hasn't played very much football.

3096
02:27:54,480 --> 02:27:57,120
Speaker 3: NFL teams do this to themselves, So I have no

3097
02:27:57,200 --> 02:27:59,760
Speaker 3: sympathy for Anthony Richardson, but I have less sympathy for

3098
02:27:59,800 --> 02:28:01,439
Speaker 3: the The Colts.

3099
02:28:01,080 --> 02:28:04,320
Speaker 4: Made their bed. This is the situation that they've created.

3100
02:28:04,040 --> 02:28:06,840
Speaker 3: Unto themselves, and now the savior is Daniel Jones.

3101
02:28:07,040 --> 02:28:07,600
Speaker 4: Good luck.

3102
02:28:07,959 --> 02:28:10,240
Speaker 2: I mean, your hope is that Daniel Jones turns into

3103
02:28:10,280 --> 02:28:13,119
Speaker 2: a Baker Mayfield, a reclamation project. But to your point,

3104
02:28:13,240 --> 02:28:16,640
Speaker 2: I will go back to two different people going into

3105
02:28:16,680 --> 02:28:18,959
Speaker 2: the draft that I covered that year with Anthony Richardson,

3106
02:28:19,120 --> 02:28:21,440
Speaker 2: two different people that cover college football at the highest

3107
02:28:21,480 --> 02:28:24,440
Speaker 2: level and report on it, said the same thing, athletic

3108
02:28:24,480 --> 02:28:27,360
Speaker 2: as can be, but just can't do the easy things.

3109
02:28:27,400 --> 02:28:29,840
Speaker 2: Doesn't do the easy things. Well, that's gonna be hard

3110
02:28:29,840 --> 02:28:33,600
Speaker 2: to fix. The two different people told me before that draft,

3111
02:28:33,640 --> 02:28:35,600
Speaker 2: Will Levice gets in his own head and when he

3112
02:28:35,640 --> 02:28:37,760
Speaker 2: makes a mistake, he can't get out of it, and

3113
02:28:37,800 --> 02:28:40,120
Speaker 2: he's and I love you, man, like you just have

3114
02:28:40,200 --> 02:28:42,240
Speaker 2: to tell him, hey, I love you, and we're going

3115
02:28:42,280 --> 02:28:44,039
Speaker 2: to see another down and you have to walk him

3116
02:28:44,080 --> 02:28:46,879
Speaker 2: out of his own crisis created for mistakes. That's two

3117
02:28:46,920 --> 02:28:49,160
Speaker 2: different people that told me. And what have we seen

3118
02:28:49,320 --> 02:28:51,879
Speaker 2: throughout the course of his career that one hundred percent echoed,

3119
02:28:52,200 --> 02:28:54,440
Speaker 2: had three or four different people tell me that the

3120
02:28:54,480 --> 02:28:56,959
Speaker 2: knock on Bryce Young coming out of college was that

3121
02:28:57,000 --> 02:28:59,480
Speaker 2: he isn't great at figuring out where the blitz pressures

3122
02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:03,440
Speaker 2: coming from and communicating offensive line assignments to the guys

3123
02:29:03,480 --> 02:29:04,800
Speaker 2: in front of him. It's just really going to.

3124
02:29:04,840 --> 02:29:05,520
Speaker 4: Have to work on that.

3125
02:29:05,560 --> 02:29:08,440
Speaker 2: Well. First year in Carolina, young offensive line in front

3126
02:29:08,440 --> 02:29:11,720
Speaker 2: of him absolutely gets murdered. Second year, they pick up

3127
02:29:11,720 --> 02:29:13,920
Speaker 2: some experience in the offensive line to help him with that,

3128
02:29:14,000 --> 02:29:15,840
Speaker 2: and what do you know, we start to see better

3129
02:29:15,879 --> 02:29:19,200
Speaker 2: from It's alarming to me that I, as just a

3130
02:29:19,240 --> 02:29:21,320
Speaker 2: guy covering the draft for years at this point for

3131
02:29:21,480 --> 02:29:24,160
Speaker 2: ESPN and now Yahoo, can get this information by just

3132
02:29:24,200 --> 02:29:27,160
Speaker 2: working the phones. Spend a week working the phones. The

3133
02:29:27,200 --> 02:29:30,480
Speaker 2: hell are football teams like NFL teams spend the same

3134
02:29:30,560 --> 02:29:34,920
Speaker 2: time working the phones. I don't understand why NFL teams

3135
02:29:34,959 --> 02:29:39,120
Speaker 2: are so inaccurate at times at the quarterback position, when

3136
02:29:39,240 --> 02:29:41,080
Speaker 2: all you have to do is talk to people around

3137
02:29:41,120 --> 02:29:43,240
Speaker 2: the game at the college level, at the highest level,

3138
02:29:43,600 --> 02:29:45,640
Speaker 2: and you get a really good breakdown of a lot

3139
02:29:45,640 --> 02:29:46,320
Speaker 2: of these players.

3140
02:29:46,440 --> 02:29:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but FITZI, you do You say that you don't,

3141
02:29:48,360 --> 02:29:49,920
Speaker 3: but you do. You know the answer to this question

3142
02:29:49,959 --> 02:29:55,800
Speaker 3: at Hubris. Yeah, there is no more ego soaked league

3143
02:29:56,240 --> 02:29:56,520
Speaker 3: than the.

3144
02:29:56,560 --> 02:29:57,560
Speaker 4: National Football League.

3145
02:29:57,560 --> 02:29:59,120
Speaker 3: And I say that as somebody who has better than

3146
02:29:59,600 --> 02:30:02,080
Speaker 3: part of the National Football League in some former fashion.

3147
02:30:01,760 --> 02:30:02,760
Speaker 4: For the past decade.

3148
02:30:02,760 --> 02:30:09,360
Speaker 3: All Right, this is as as pompous and as entitled

3149
02:30:09,720 --> 02:30:14,560
Speaker 3: and as full of themselves as any league in professional sports,

3150
02:30:14,600 --> 02:30:18,680
Speaker 3: collegiate sports, or otherwise. The NFL like I don't even

3151
02:30:18,720 --> 02:30:20,840
Speaker 3: Mark Cuban got ahead of himself a couple of years

3152
02:30:20,879 --> 02:30:22,640
Speaker 3: ago where he said the NFL was going to cave

3153
02:30:22,720 --> 02:30:25,800
Speaker 3: in on itself because pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.

3154
02:30:25,840 --> 02:30:27,560
Speaker 3: It was a foolish thing for Mark Cuban to say,

3155
02:30:27,600 --> 02:30:30,880
Speaker 3: understanding that football is still the most popular sport in America.

3156
02:30:30,959 --> 02:30:33,400
Speaker 3: But what he was speaking on is the people running

3157
02:30:33,440 --> 02:30:37,960
Speaker 3: that league. Now it's almost too big to fail the NFL.

3158
02:30:38,120 --> 02:30:41,440
Speaker 3: Though NFL franchises fail all the time, and while the

3159
02:30:41,560 --> 02:30:44,800
Speaker 3: business of football is good, the quality of football has

3160
02:30:44,840 --> 02:30:49,000
Speaker 3: suffered significantly league wide because these organizations. And I thought

3161
02:30:49,040 --> 02:30:51,360
Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell, the head coach of the Vikings, was spot

3162
02:30:51,480 --> 02:30:53,840
Speaker 3: on last year. I think it was an appearance on

3163
02:30:53,920 --> 02:30:56,320
Speaker 3: Rich Eisen if I'm not mistaken, one of these national

3164
02:30:56,400 --> 02:31:01,080
Speaker 3: shows where he was discussing, hey, we unders stand why

3165
02:31:01,120 --> 02:31:03,680
Speaker 3: it is that these quarterbacks are failing because we are

3166
02:31:03,720 --> 02:31:06,560
Speaker 3: failing them. We are putting them in impossible positions, we

3167
02:31:06,760 --> 02:31:09,480
Speaker 3: are putting too much on them right out of the gate.

3168
02:31:09,520 --> 02:31:12,520
Speaker 4: There is burden from ownership because the owner wants the.

3169
02:31:12,520 --> 02:31:15,039
Speaker 3: First round quarterback or the first round player to play

3170
02:31:15,120 --> 02:31:18,240
Speaker 3: right away. It's not just quarterbacks, it's players in general.

3171
02:31:18,760 --> 02:31:21,560
Speaker 3: Compounded with the pressure that already exists in pro sports

3172
02:31:21,600 --> 02:31:24,400
Speaker 3: with social media, and how much more that brings to

3173
02:31:24,440 --> 02:31:27,200
Speaker 3: the table than ever before in any other era of

3174
02:31:27,240 --> 02:31:33,560
Speaker 3: professional athletics. It's a pressure cooker so that these teams

3175
02:31:33,640 --> 02:31:37,320
Speaker 3: can't get out of their own way. I you know,

3176
02:31:37,520 --> 02:31:42,160
Speaker 3: I let them fail. Let organizations like the Colts fail.

3177
02:31:42,520 --> 02:31:45,200
Speaker 3: Let organizations like the Titans, who spend two hundred and

3178
02:31:45,240 --> 02:31:48,720
Speaker 3: twenty eight million dollars around Will Levis fail and be

3179
02:31:48,800 --> 02:31:50,959
Speaker 3: the worst team in football and then trip and fall

3180
02:31:51,000 --> 02:31:54,080
Speaker 3: back asswords into the number one overall, picking cam Ward.

3181
02:31:54,200 --> 02:31:57,039
Speaker 3: Like your point earlier in the show about it's better

3182
02:31:57,040 --> 02:32:00,240
Speaker 3: to be lucky than good. No league encompasses that more

3183
02:32:00,480 --> 02:32:04,279
Speaker 3: than the NFL, because players will make organizations and coaches

3184
02:32:04,440 --> 02:32:06,480
Speaker 3: look way smarter than they deserve to be.

3185
02:32:07,360 --> 02:32:11,360
Speaker 2: And in the process, the bad teams, the bad coaches

3186
02:32:11,600 --> 02:32:14,160
Speaker 2: think the players are the problem. The bad players think

3187
02:32:14,200 --> 02:32:17,080
Speaker 2: the coaches are the problem, The bad gms think everybody

3188
02:32:17,120 --> 02:32:20,440
Speaker 2: around them is a problem. All through it. The problem

3189
02:32:20,520 --> 02:32:24,119
Speaker 2: is many times, it's the ego of all of them involved.

3190
02:32:24,360 --> 02:32:27,400
Speaker 2: And the very thing that so often seeps into culture

3191
02:32:27,400 --> 02:32:29,520
Speaker 2: and locker rooms of like we're going to be a team,

3192
02:32:29,560 --> 02:32:31,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna live and die, is one group. We all

3193
02:32:32,320 --> 02:32:35,640
Speaker 2: need each other. You talk to actual people in actual

3194
02:32:35,720 --> 02:32:37,720
Speaker 2: locker rooms, and you find out quickly that that's the

3195
02:32:37,720 --> 02:32:40,560
Speaker 2: biggest coach speak. Like, just the fact is most of

3196
02:32:40,560 --> 02:32:42,520
Speaker 2: these guys don't think they need each other. Most of

3197
02:32:42,520 --> 02:32:44,720
Speaker 2: these guys think that people around them are hindering their

3198
02:32:44,760 --> 02:32:47,720
Speaker 2: greatness of anything. And it's alarming to see how many

3199
02:32:47,760 --> 02:32:50,160
Speaker 2: guys in locker rooms right now across the league are

3200
02:32:50,160 --> 02:32:53,480
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, it's this idiot's fault. And it's never

3201
02:32:53,560 --> 02:32:55,920
Speaker 2: this idiot looking in the mirror. It's this idiot the

3202
02:32:55,920 --> 02:32:57,640
Speaker 2: person that's sitting across the locker room from them.

3203
02:32:57,920 --> 02:32:59,600
Speaker 4: I mean, you look at the Shamar Sewart situation.

3204
02:32:59,640 --> 02:33:03,080
Speaker 3: We've talked talked about that before, where players or players

3205
02:33:03,160 --> 02:33:05,879
Speaker 3: are actively telling him, no, man, you're good, you're doing

3206
02:33:05,879 --> 02:33:08,560
Speaker 3: the right thing. Look at this organiz this dopey organization.

3207
02:33:08,640 --> 02:33:11,039
Speaker 3: They tried to do this to us too. And and

3208
02:33:11,080 --> 02:33:13,800
Speaker 3: to your point, it's there is equal parts on players

3209
02:33:13,840 --> 02:33:16,520
Speaker 3: as well. There's this It's going to be a fascinating

3210
02:33:16,600 --> 02:33:19,920
Speaker 3: trickle up effect from college football, specifically college football to

3211
02:33:19,920 --> 02:33:21,920
Speaker 3: the NFL. And I think you can make this argument

3212
02:33:21,920 --> 02:33:25,160
Speaker 3: where we're talking about Cooper flag potentially being there's a

3213
02:33:25,160 --> 02:33:28,120
Speaker 3: SPA Track projection out there, spa track dot Com, the

3214
02:33:28,200 --> 02:33:31,080
Speaker 3: Salary Cap website, one of them where they have Cooper

3215
02:33:31,080 --> 02:33:34,400
Speaker 3: Flagg as the first billionaire North American athlete just based

3216
02:33:34,440 --> 02:33:37,800
Speaker 3: on contract earnings alone, and that's not even to do

3217
02:33:37,840 --> 02:33:40,680
Speaker 3: with his collegiate earnings, where I think there was figures

3218
02:33:40,720 --> 02:33:43,480
Speaker 3: out there somewhere a ballpark thirteen million dollars last year

3219
02:33:43,480 --> 02:33:46,119
Speaker 3: at Duke that was floated out there. There are going

3220
02:33:46,160 --> 02:33:47,840
Speaker 3: to be success stories, there are going to be way

3221
02:33:47,879 --> 02:33:51,600
Speaker 3: more stories of failure for people or people athletes, people

3222
02:33:51,640 --> 02:33:53,960
Speaker 3: around these athletes that just didn't know how to handle

3223
02:33:53,959 --> 02:33:56,320
Speaker 3: the situation and didn't properly equip the players to do

3224
02:33:56,360 --> 02:33:57,080
Speaker 3: the exact same.

3225
02:33:57,160 --> 02:33:59,600
Speaker 2: Maybe properly equipped. If they listed the best pregame show

3226
02:33:59,600 --> 02:34:01,440
Speaker 2: Every weekend, I'm be sure to tune into Fox Sports

3227
02:34:01,520 --> 02:34:04,480
Speaker 2: Radio's Countime, presented by bet MGM every Saturday and Sunday morning,

3228
02:34:04,680 --> 02:34:07,920
Speaker 2: nine am to noon Eastern six to nine Pacific, counching

3229
02:34:07,959 --> 02:34:10,520
Speaker 2: down from all the biggest games. Tune into Countime, presented

3230
02:34:10,520 --> 02:34:12,840
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3231
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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Buck Rising

3232
02:34:15,560 --> 02:34:17,760
Speaker 2: is gonna go get his coffee and when we come back,

3233
02:34:18,040 --> 02:34:21,440
Speaker 2: would you rather makes its debut on The Fellas. That's

3234
02:34:21,440 --> 02:34:26,600
Speaker 2: coming down to Fox Sports Radio combination of traditions here

3235
02:34:27,640 --> 02:34:32,280
Speaker 2: on the Fellas, Buck looking at me confusingly by way, No,

3236
02:34:32,400 --> 02:34:34,280
Speaker 2: my way is how we end every show. We play

3237
02:34:34,320 --> 02:34:38,400
Speaker 2: my way. Oh God, Sinatra, come on. It's like, hey,

3238
02:34:38,840 --> 02:34:40,600
Speaker 2: I did it my way like this? Have you ever

3239
02:34:40,640 --> 02:34:42,199
Speaker 2: listened to the lyrics of this on you.

3240
02:34:42,120 --> 02:34:43,920
Speaker 4: Yell know, I know the lyrics. It just feels like

3241
02:34:43,920 --> 02:34:44,959
Speaker 4: a funeral procession.

3242
02:34:45,360 --> 02:34:47,640
Speaker 2: No, it's not a funeral procession. It's a celebration of

3243
02:34:47,640 --> 02:34:50,360
Speaker 2: everything that you've accomplished and done it your way across

3244
02:34:50,360 --> 02:34:53,800
Speaker 2: the Pride, which is not dead yet. No, but for

3245
02:34:53,840 --> 02:34:56,560
Speaker 2: the last four hours you've been killing me. That's all

3246
02:34:56,600 --> 02:34:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like.

3247
02:34:57,720 --> 02:34:59,880
Speaker 3: Boom, do you have a boot drop back there? But

3248
02:35:02,120 --> 02:35:02,960
Speaker 3: can I terrible?

3249
02:35:03,040 --> 02:35:05,480
Speaker 2: We just can we just mute you? Okay, So we're

3250
02:35:05,480 --> 02:35:08,039
Speaker 2: gonna take We're gonna bring that tradition in with a

3251
02:35:08,080 --> 02:35:11,119
Speaker 2: bucking fit tradition. We like to play the best game

3252
02:35:11,160 --> 02:35:13,760
Speaker 2: show in the world. We like to start it seeing

3253
02:35:13,800 --> 02:35:15,680
Speaker 2: if we can actually say this in sync, and it

3254
02:35:15,680 --> 02:35:18,440
Speaker 2: never works because there's a delay. But we'll try this book.

3255
02:35:18,480 --> 02:35:20,280
Speaker 2: Are you ready? Are you ready to try this? Are

3256
02:35:20,320 --> 02:35:20,680
Speaker 2: you ready?

3257
02:35:20,680 --> 02:35:21,400
Speaker 4: Are you ready ready?

3258
02:35:22,760 --> 02:35:24,279
Speaker 2: Let's try to play.

3259
02:35:24,680 --> 02:35:29,119
Speaker 4: Wood you.

3260
02:35:30,240 --> 02:35:34,040
Speaker 7: It's easy, guys, don't think I'm not Would you rather

3261
02:35:34,600 --> 02:35:38,000
Speaker 7: buckets or fix it?

3262
02:35:41,440 --> 02:35:44,600
Speaker 8: Just get a pretty good guy? It's pretty good. He

3263
02:35:44,640 --> 02:35:45,240
Speaker 8: did pretty good.

3264
02:35:46,480 --> 02:35:48,640
Speaker 2: She's got a whole list for anyone that hasn't heard

3265
02:35:48,640 --> 02:35:50,120
Speaker 2: that shaded, a whole list. She's gonna give us some

3266
02:35:50,120 --> 02:35:51,960
Speaker 2: would you rather questions? We're going to figure it out

3267
02:35:52,160 --> 02:35:53,480
Speaker 2: along the way. What he got for us?

3268
02:35:53,520 --> 02:35:53,720
Speaker 4: First?

3269
02:35:53,760 --> 02:35:54,720
Speaker 8: Alrighty, the first one?

3270
02:35:54,920 --> 02:35:58,080
Speaker 9: Would you rather miss a wide open layup on National TV?

3271
02:35:58,520 --> 02:36:00,560
Speaker 9: Or trip and fall during the coin toss of the

3272
02:36:00,560 --> 02:36:01,120
Speaker 9: Super Bowl?

3273
02:36:02,040 --> 02:36:08,280
Speaker 3: Oh god, did you see the College World Series where

3274
02:36:08,280 --> 02:36:10,320
Speaker 3: that ump that was getting ready to or was in

3275
02:36:10,360 --> 02:36:14,480
Speaker 3: the process of ejecting the Coastal Carolina coach just completely

3276
02:36:14,480 --> 02:36:17,800
Speaker 3: tripped up over himself and like, did this awkward? Like

3277
02:36:17,920 --> 02:36:20,080
Speaker 3: it tried to correct it, like he didn't fall down

3278
02:36:20,120 --> 02:36:23,600
Speaker 3: in front of everybody. I I think I would rather

3279
02:36:23,640 --> 02:36:25,960
Speaker 3: trip and fall during the coin toss of the Super Bowl.

3280
02:36:25,959 --> 02:36:30,440
Speaker 3: Missing a layup is so embarrassing, like just generally, like especially.

3281
02:36:29,959 --> 02:36:31,760
Speaker 4: Being from Indiana, Like you got to make the.

3282
02:36:31,800 --> 02:36:35,400
Speaker 3: Layup on a national broadcast, there would be no greater shame.

3283
02:36:36,160 --> 02:36:39,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, but you know you're a white guy,

3284
02:36:40,080 --> 02:36:42,600
Speaker 2: not particularly like you don't walk into the room and

3285
02:36:42,640 --> 02:36:45,080
Speaker 2: people just say athlete. You know, like you miss a

3286
02:36:45,080 --> 02:36:45,640
Speaker 2: white open.

3287
02:36:45,760 --> 02:36:49,520
Speaker 3: Are some Egyptian people definitely do not associate that with

3288
02:36:49,640 --> 02:36:52,119
Speaker 3: the athletic crowis shout out Masala.

3289
02:36:52,200 --> 02:36:52,720
Speaker 4: That's about it.

3290
02:36:52,760 --> 02:36:56,840
Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's a level for me. If you

3291
02:36:56,920 --> 02:36:59,960
Speaker 2: trip and fall during the coin toss of the Super Bowl,

3292
02:37:00,200 --> 02:37:01,800
Speaker 2: that will be replayed every year for the rest of

3293
02:37:01,840 --> 02:37:03,760
Speaker 2: your life. So I want the wide open layup miss

3294
02:37:03,879 --> 02:37:07,199
Speaker 2: because there's enough missus, miss dunks, miss other things. It'll

3295
02:37:07,200 --> 02:37:10,520
Speaker 2: be it'll be overshadowed at times like you trip and fall.

3296
02:37:10,560 --> 02:37:12,320
Speaker 2: That's making the blooper reel on the NFL. I don't

3297
02:37:12,320 --> 02:37:13,320
Speaker 2: want to be on the blooper reel.

3298
02:37:14,360 --> 02:37:16,800
Speaker 8: Ah realy, So would you rather got force next? Okay,

3299
02:37:16,959 --> 02:37:18,840
Speaker 8: the next one? Would you rather fight one.

3300
02:37:18,760 --> 02:37:23,560
Speaker 9: Horse sized hamster or one hundred hamster sized horses?

3301
02:37:26,440 --> 02:37:30,520
Speaker 3: One hundred hamster sized horses? Because rodents freaked me out.

3302
02:37:30,560 --> 02:37:34,039
Speaker 3: I would immediately lose just paste out of shirt, sheer

3303
02:37:34,280 --> 02:37:35,320
Speaker 3: panic and fear.

3304
02:37:35,720 --> 02:37:37,840
Speaker 4: I know that they're you know there, it's a hamster.

3305
02:37:37,879 --> 02:37:39,840
Speaker 3: It's not a rat, right, but it's the closest thing

3306
02:37:39,879 --> 02:37:42,280
Speaker 3: to a rat that you might find out there. And

3307
02:37:42,320 --> 02:37:44,200
Speaker 3: I feel, you know, I would hate to do that

3308
02:37:44,240 --> 02:37:47,640
Speaker 3: to the horses. Horses are lovely, majestic creatures, but you know,

3309
02:37:47,720 --> 02:37:49,360
Speaker 3: if they're small, maybe you just step on them and

3310
02:37:49,400 --> 02:37:50,680
Speaker 3: you don't think about it like an ant.

3311
02:37:52,560 --> 02:37:52,640
Speaker 4: No.

3312
02:37:52,760 --> 02:37:54,760
Speaker 2: Tiny horses, though, are going to be biting at me

3313
02:37:55,000 --> 02:37:56,120
Speaker 2: like they like. And I don't want you.

3314
02:37:56,120 --> 02:37:58,960
Speaker 3: I don't think the giant horse sized hamster it would

3315
02:37:58,959 --> 02:37:59,640
Speaker 3: bite your head off.

3316
02:37:59,640 --> 02:38:02,640
Speaker 4: It would cappitate you. What a terrible argument.

3317
02:38:02,640 --> 02:38:05,320
Speaker 2: Okay, so the tiny horse, they're gonna be champing at

3318
02:38:05,320 --> 02:38:07,480
Speaker 2: the bit. By the way, that is the appropriate. It's

3319
02:38:07,480 --> 02:38:10,240
Speaker 2: not chomping, it's champing. But here's here's what I'm gonna

3320
02:38:10,240 --> 02:38:14,000
Speaker 2: do with the with the hamster that's horse sized, I'm

3321
02:38:14,000 --> 02:38:16,120
Speaker 2: gonna last so it like the true cowboy I am,

3322
02:38:16,480 --> 02:38:18,720
Speaker 2: and then in one move be able to ride it.

3323
02:38:18,760 --> 02:38:21,680
Speaker 2: And then I'm riding a hamster around and I'm screaming yeeha.

3324
02:38:21,879 --> 02:38:24,560
Speaker 2: The entire time. Nobody believes I can pull that off,

3325
02:38:24,600 --> 02:38:27,440
Speaker 2: myself concluded, but I would try and that. So I'll

3326
02:38:27,480 --> 02:38:30,200
Speaker 2: take the horse size hamster just so I can try

3327
02:38:30,240 --> 02:38:31,000
Speaker 2: and ride it.

3328
02:38:31,320 --> 02:38:33,960
Speaker 3: I picture you like a Nashville bachelorette with a pink

3329
02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:36,960
Speaker 3: cowboy hat and white cowboy boots on riding a hamster

3330
02:38:37,040 --> 02:38:37,600
Speaker 3: around town.

3331
02:38:39,080 --> 02:38:40,920
Speaker 2: And you know what if we could have Pink Pony

3332
02:38:40,920 --> 02:38:42,600
Speaker 2: Club playing in the background. I'm not mad at it,

3333
02:38:42,640 --> 02:38:44,640
Speaker 2: all right, Bree, what's the next what's the next one?

3334
02:38:45,000 --> 02:38:46,960
Speaker 4: I'm don't laugh at that joke. Bring a terrible joke.

3335
02:38:47,120 --> 02:38:48,000
Speaker 4: Don't laugh at that joke.

3336
02:38:50,760 --> 02:38:52,800
Speaker 9: I'm gonna change this one a little bit just for

3337
02:38:52,879 --> 02:38:55,520
Speaker 9: my liking. Would you rather have to play an entire

3338
02:38:55,680 --> 02:39:00,200
Speaker 9: baseball MLB game in high heels or kick a game

3339
02:39:00,240 --> 02:39:02,040
Speaker 9: winning field goal wearing crocs?

3340
02:39:06,120 --> 02:39:08,080
Speaker 2: I mean, the game winning field goal is only one

3341
02:39:08,160 --> 02:39:11,080
Speaker 2: kick getting around a hole, like playing an entire game

3342
02:39:11,080 --> 02:39:14,600
Speaker 2: in heels. Man My fee can't handle that, Like, there's

3343
02:39:14,640 --> 02:39:17,240
Speaker 2: no way. I'll take the crocks, the game winning field

3344
02:39:17,240 --> 02:39:20,120
Speaker 2: goal and crocs only because there's no way that these

3345
02:39:20,320 --> 02:39:23,480
Speaker 2: monster feet of my my you know, substantial nine and

3346
02:39:23,520 --> 02:39:26,200
Speaker 2: a half sized shoe is going to handle being in

3347
02:39:26,840 --> 02:39:29,360
Speaker 2: being in heels for an entire MLB game. Plus I'm

3348
02:39:29,400 --> 02:39:32,200
Speaker 2: just imagining how having to run anything out in heels.

3349
02:39:32,240 --> 02:39:34,480
Speaker 2: It just feels. I feel like I look like it's

3350
02:39:34,520 --> 02:39:34,840
Speaker 2: a raf.

3351
02:39:35,080 --> 02:39:36,600
Speaker 3: I don't think I've worn a nine and a half

3352
02:39:36,640 --> 02:39:39,400
Speaker 3: since fourth grade. Now I'm with him, though, I think

3353
02:39:39,440 --> 02:39:41,520
Speaker 3: you I think you got to kick the I think

3354
02:39:41,520 --> 02:39:42,199
Speaker 3: you got to kick.

3355
02:39:42,120 --> 02:39:43,240
Speaker 4: The field goal in the crocs.

3356
02:39:43,280 --> 02:39:45,640
Speaker 3: Like, even if you stub a toe, the pain from

3357
02:39:45,680 --> 02:39:48,000
Speaker 3: the stub toe it is one of the greatest pains

3358
02:39:48,320 --> 02:39:50,520
Speaker 3: out there in the world. But like, I don't know

3359
02:39:50,520 --> 02:39:51,480
Speaker 3: how y'all do it in the heels.

3360
02:39:51,520 --> 02:39:52,080
Speaker 2: You're Griffin.

3361
02:39:52,360 --> 02:39:58,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing seems more painful than just having to maneuver

3362
02:39:58,560 --> 02:40:01,080
Speaker 3: around in heels, much less on a soccer pitch. I'm

3363
02:40:01,120 --> 02:40:03,840
Speaker 3: assuming Brady that the heel is sinking into the turf,

3364
02:40:03,920 --> 02:40:06,320
Speaker 3: Like you're not seamlessly running around the soccer pitch.

3365
02:40:06,400 --> 02:40:07,200
Speaker 8: No, absolutely not.

3366
02:40:07,400 --> 02:40:09,280
Speaker 9: But with crocs, I mean, are you really gonna have

3367
02:40:09,320 --> 02:40:11,680
Speaker 9: any velocity to kick it up? So you're just gonna

3368
02:40:11,680 --> 02:40:14,080
Speaker 9: look like a dork trying to kick something, But like,

3369
02:40:14,120 --> 02:40:15,720
Speaker 9: how do you know you're actually gonna kick it up?

3370
02:40:16,040 --> 02:40:16,240
Speaker 4: Yeah?

3371
02:40:16,400 --> 02:40:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no velocity on this thing anyway, This is

3372
02:40:19,200 --> 02:40:22,119
Speaker 3: you know, it's we're we're We're just trying to get

3373
02:40:22,120 --> 02:40:22,840
Speaker 3: it off the ground.

3374
02:40:23,120 --> 02:40:23,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

3375
02:40:23,440 --> 02:40:25,280
Speaker 9: Last one. Would you rather have a pet that talks

3376
02:40:25,640 --> 02:40:28,040
Speaker 9: it only insults you, or a pet that doesn't talk

3377
02:40:28,080 --> 02:40:29,519
Speaker 9: but judges you silently.

3378
02:40:30,600 --> 02:40:31,400
Speaker 4: Oh, I already have one.

3379
02:40:31,400 --> 02:40:34,200
Speaker 2: I already got Yeah, it doesn't talk like Yeah, I

3380
02:40:34,240 --> 02:40:36,640
Speaker 2: want one that talks to me like give, be me,

3381
02:40:37,000 --> 02:40:38,760
Speaker 2: like belittle me the whole time. That's what I want.

3382
02:40:39,480 --> 02:40:41,480
Speaker 3: Again, the cat would probably bully me as well the

3383
02:40:41,600 --> 02:40:44,440
Speaker 3: entire time, so it's a lose lose proposition either work.

3384
02:40:46,080 --> 02:40:48,080
Speaker 2: I do love the idea of your cat trash talking

3385
02:40:48,200 --> 02:40:50,320
Speaker 2: when it wants it's poop scooted. Thanks so much for

3386
02:40:50,360 --> 02:40:52,400
Speaker 2: hanging out with U. Keep with Fox Sports Ready all day.

3387
02:40:52,400 --> 02:40:54,080
Speaker 2: We've been the Fellows on Fox Sports Radio.