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Speaker 1: Lakers podcast, this time in our old fashioned formats where

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Speaker 1: you could see our pretty faces as we talk some

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Speaker 1: of the day. Rog. How you doing, man, how's your

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Speaker 1: trip to Vegas? Did you have fun? Yeah? It was

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Man. That was my second trip

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Speaker 1: last night. So you know, for the record, in the

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Speaker 1: see the point of that. When they're switching everything anyway,

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Speaker 1: so then they can just get Drew off and whenever

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Speaker 1: they want. And again, I feel like he should be

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Speaker 1: going over the top, should be fighting whatever. I put

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Speaker 1: some kind of back pressure. But again on offense, like

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough for them to kind of keep

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Speaker 1: up kemp kempat Connaton, Can Brent Forbes have some kind

436
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Speaker 1: of really good game. Um, I feel like their their

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Speaker 1: their light is a little too green for me. Like

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Speaker 1: Pat Connaton and Brint Forbes. Those dudes take terrible shots

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Speaker 1: where they're not even close to open. They'll get hot

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Speaker 1: from time to time. It's just like Milwaukee's on a

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Speaker 1: huge run last night. I remember they cut it too seven.

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Speaker 1: Brent Forbes got it in transition twenty seconds left on

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Speaker 1: the shot clock, wonderable one leg fade away hit hit

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Speaker 1: almost the side of the backboard. I'm like, man, it's

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Speaker 1: just there's no there's no offensive kind of rule here,

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Speaker 1: and it's your honest as well. Cutting to the room

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Speaker 1: made it worse. So that's what I'm worried about with

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Speaker 1: them on offense. I think they'll kind of figure it out.

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Speaker 1: I think you honest will play better, even more aggressively

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Speaker 1: as the series goes on. But I think that's where

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Speaker 1: that's where he that's where Monkey has to go. The

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Speaker 1: role not role players, but Drew Holiday and Chris milton't

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Speaker 1: have to play better. Did you like what Phoenix did

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Speaker 1: with the Honest, like putting eighton on him, um, and

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Speaker 1: then kind of swarming him with Jake Crowden mckel bridges

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Speaker 1: and then a kind of daring I guess Drew Holiday

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Speaker 1: to beat them. I feel like they kind of left

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Speaker 1: him open a little bit more. That's been the coverage

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Speaker 1: that most teams have used against the Honest this year.

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Speaker 1: Has put a center on him, had the center kind

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Speaker 1: of beat him to the spot, force him to spin back,

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Speaker 1: and then send help from his weeks side because he

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Speaker 1: doesn't see the floor super well. Um. In general, I

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Speaker 1: do like that one of the ways that Milwaukee's counter

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Speaker 1: debt is like really clearing the side, kind of overloading

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Speaker 1: the weak side with shooting from the where where what

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Speaker 1: works there is if you want to abandon a shooter.

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Speaker 1: It's so like kind of unorthodox to go that far

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Speaker 1: away from your matchup that it kind of throws defenses off.

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Speaker 1: And they had a lot of success against Brooklyn posting

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Speaker 1: him up on that you know, left block and then

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Speaker 1: overloading that side and where at least if he spun

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Speaker 1: back there just wasn't as much help. Um. I think

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be their primary uh thing that they go

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Speaker 1: to is the honest kind of gets his legs back

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Speaker 1: underneath them. I thought he was just kind of a

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Speaker 1: little rusty too in general. Um, really quickly, one of

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Speaker 1: the things that you had mentioned a minute ago that

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Speaker 1: I thought was interesting. You know, what's the point of

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Speaker 1: having a guy with the defensive value of Drew Holiday

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Speaker 1: if if you can just kind of switch him off

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Speaker 1: using a screening action and now he's standing you know,

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Speaker 1: in a in a shell drill elsewhere on the floor. Well,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna go into you know, after the season's over,

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Speaker 1: you and I are gonna do a variety of podcasts.

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Speaker 1: One of them will probably be some sort of player

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Speaker 1: ranking type of deal, and you know, similar to what

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Speaker 1: I did last summer. Like I've always said that, you know,

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Speaker 1: super elite high end offense carries a great deal more

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Speaker 1: value than super elite high end defense. Not to say

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Speaker 1: that the defensive end isn't important, because it is, but

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Speaker 1: when it comes down to these types of games, that

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Speaker 1: individual offensive talent brings more value because you can get

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Speaker 1: a defender off the play. Like I'll never for the

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Speaker 1: best example ever, several years ago, James Harden uh uh,

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Speaker 1: lit up the Spurs in game one of a playoff

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Speaker 1: series because Kauai was guarding his matchup, which was Ryan Anderson,

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Speaker 1: and they just had Ryan Anderson stand ft from the

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Speaker 1: basket on the week side, like because he took so

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Speaker 1: many deep threes, and Kauai spent the entire game standing

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Speaker 1: at the three point line and and they were able

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Speaker 1: to kind of scheme him out. Now, over the course

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Speaker 1: of the series, the Spurs figured them out and they

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Speaker 1: ended up winning. But that's kind of an example of

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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: defense is much more of a five on five type

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Speaker 1: of sport than than the offensive end is. On the

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Speaker 1: offensive end, it's it's so much more about what an

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Speaker 1: individual can do. And I think that's what makes that difference.

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Speaker 1: And and guys like you know, uh, you know, when

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Speaker 1: you look at Chris Middleton, you might think he does

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Speaker 1: all the stuff Kobe does, right, Like, you think, oh,

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Speaker 1: he does all these turnaround jump shots. He's got all

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Speaker 1: the off the dribble moves from the perimeter. He's a

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Speaker 1: tough shot maker, he's a contested shot maker. That's great.

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Speaker 1: But Kobe, at the end of the day, was a

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Speaker 1: relentless rim attacker and everything was built off of that.

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Speaker 1: And that is the difference for him. And that's what

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Speaker 1: everyone always asks, Like I see it on the timeline

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Speaker 1: every time Middleton's going off, is Middleton the best player

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Speaker 1: on the Bucks? Is Middleton the Alpha? And and you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: the honest is the Robin? But then when he's playing bad,

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Speaker 1: everyone's like, what's up with Middleton? I don't know why?

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Speaker 1: Why is he so inconsistent? It's literally that simple. He

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Speaker 1: is a he is a jump shooter that when he's

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Speaker 1: in rhythm, he looks like one of the best players

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Speaker 1: in the world. And when he's not, he looks like

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Speaker 1: a guy who's crumbling under the pressure. That that's literally

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Speaker 1: all that. That's the the that huge chasm between him

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Speaker 1: and the top you know wings that we see in

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Speaker 1: the league has to do with their their willingness to

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Speaker 1: attack the rim. Yeah, and I think that also that

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Speaker 1: opens everything else up to right, like when you drive

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Speaker 1: to the rim, you can become a playmaker, you can

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Speaker 1: get to the you can get to the line. Like

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Speaker 1: he impacts the game pretty much. One way. It's with

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Speaker 1: his scoring, right is I'm shooting. Basically, he doesn't get

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Speaker 1: to the line, doesn't doesn't play make for others. So basically,

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Speaker 1: if you stop if he's not shooting, well, he's not

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Speaker 1: impacting the game. And I think that's what the difference

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Speaker 1: between it. People were asking last night, Um, how much

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Speaker 1: better is Middleton than Devin Booker, Like are they on

543
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Speaker 1: the same tier kind of thing? In my opinion, no,

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Speaker 1: I think Devin Booker impacts the game a variety of ways.

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Speaker 1: Even if his jump shots not going, He's still get

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Speaker 1: into the line. His playmaking has gone so much better.

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Speaker 1: The way Phoenix relies on him is just so different

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Speaker 1: than just with his scoring. So I think I think

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Speaker 1: that's that's true. One really quick thing I wanted to

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Speaker 1: say because like I feel like people think, like I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying you say this, but like most people think

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Speaker 1: you honest at the five just answers everything right. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like there are some downsides to it, especially

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Speaker 1: when you have Eaten out there. I feel like it

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Speaker 1: really hurts your offensive rebounding, um, and they can really

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Speaker 1: get I thought Eaton got a bunch of offensive rebounds

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Speaker 1: as well. And on thing like, it's funny you compared

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Speaker 1: him to a d I feel like Milwaukee doesn't want

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Speaker 1: him on like the other star kind of perimeter players

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Speaker 1: like you saw that. They didn't want him on k D.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he switched on Trey Young very much.

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Speaker 1: They like him as the help defend. That's why I

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Speaker 1: don't think they go to Jannice at the five as

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Speaker 1: much best A. Oh yeah, for sure, But I feel

565
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Speaker 1: like in this kind of series, you need him to

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Speaker 1: be on Chris Paul and Devin Booker like I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can win this series of Bobby

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Speaker 1: Reporters and and Brook Lopez defending these cards as much

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Speaker 1: as they're going to, like, I feel like you have

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Speaker 1: to have be honest at least to slow down whichever

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Speaker 1: one is hot at times. But they love him as

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Speaker 1: a health defender and that's understandable. He's really great at that.

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Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I just think that there are some

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Speaker 1: weaknesses to going honest at the five, But I do

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Speaker 1: agree with you that that that's probably the best option here.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that's triky with that is I

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily think you honest is that great of an

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Speaker 1: individual defender, especially against shifty guys like you saw this

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Speaker 1: spot in the Milwaukee series and just in general over

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Speaker 1: the last few years when Durant and Uh and Uh

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Speaker 1: you honest would get matched up, he's susceptible to shiftiness

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Speaker 1: and he's susceptible to speed. Um that that's not to

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Speaker 1: say that he's not a bad individual defender, because he's not.

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Speaker 1: His length and athleticism makes up a gap in a

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Speaker 1: lot of ways. But you know, you know, we all

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Speaker 1: see we all remember like the All Star Game a

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Speaker 1: few years back, where he had some success as an

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Speaker 1: individual defender against Lebron Um. But part of the reason

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Speaker 1: for that is Lebron at this age is he's never

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Speaker 1: been that shift e of a guy, and at this

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Speaker 1: age he's a little bit more of a bullieball type

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Speaker 1: of guy. So yeah, he's gonna be good in those

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Speaker 1: types of matchups. But the reality is is against guys

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Speaker 1: like Kevin Durant who are super shifty, and guards like

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Speaker 1: Booker and and Chris Paul, he's just not super laterally quick.

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Speaker 1: And then anticipation is a big part of it. One

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Speaker 1: of the reasons why Lebron is such a good perimeter

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Speaker 1: defender at every position is he's got great anticipation. He's

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Speaker 1: good at just kind of guessing which direction the guy

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Speaker 1: is gonna go, and Lebron is very laterally quick. It

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Speaker 1: was actually his big point of emphasis before the season

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Speaker 1: that they won the title, and he said so in

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Speaker 1: in uh in an interview, and then there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of footage out there of him working with his trainer

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Speaker 1: on lateral quickness, a lot of big slide steps and

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Speaker 1: jumps and things along those lines. That kind of thing takes.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not just a natural ability. It is partially

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Speaker 1: to some extent, but a lot of it is, you know,

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Speaker 1: a dedication in that regard. And I think one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons why they want you on us off the

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Speaker 1: ball is that's actually where his value is at its best.

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Speaker 1: Like p J. Tucker is, this is a significantly better

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Speaker 1: perimeter defender as a laterally quick guy taking slide steps

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Speaker 1: and guessing and and being physical without foiling than you,

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Speaker 1: honest is I think that's why they go that route. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree, And and just your point with p J. Tucker,

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Speaker 1: I think it kind of goes to your like where

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Speaker 1: offense matters more than defense, because I feel like p J.

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Speaker 1: Tucker is almost um player. He's probably he's a better

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Speaker 1: defender than Brent Forbes than pat content, but he just

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Speaker 1: can't shoot right now. He just can't make a corner three,

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Speaker 1: and it's making him almost unplayable. So it's kind of

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Speaker 1: interesting when you look at it. I feel like you

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Speaker 1: have to be able at least hit an open shot. Nowadays,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into this more and like the summer, I

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Speaker 1: guess the real summer, but like, I feel like defensive

627
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Speaker 1: players now have to at least hit a corner three,

628
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Speaker 1: and if you can do more than that, like Michael Bridges,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get paid like a low tiers star, like

630
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, he's about to get paid. So it's

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Speaker 1: just interesting the way the NBA kind of moves because

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Speaker 1: I fee guys like Andre Robertson who couldn't hit outside

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Speaker 1: of the two feet, got four years eighty three, like

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Speaker 1: four years ago, but now those players are being more

635
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Speaker 1: and more extinct where he's not. He's I think, back healthy,

636
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Speaker 1: but he still can't really get a role on the

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Speaker 1: team because he can't shoot at all, even if his

638
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Speaker 1: defense is at a top tier levels. I think it's

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Speaker 1: interesting to kind of look at that, well, Michael, this

640
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Speaker 1: is so out of left field, But Michael Bridges, like

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Speaker 1: the it kind of reminds me of football when when

642
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: you have a really talented roster and uh and you

643
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: draft a really good quarterback and for the for that

644
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: three year four year window, you have this inexpensive quarterback

645
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: that's carrying a whole lot of weight relative to the roster,

646
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 1: and so you can devote more money to the position

647
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: players and then you're really good in that in that stretch.

648
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 1: But then you pay the quarterback big money, and all

649
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: of a sudden you have to uh to to you know,

650
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: cut back on what you pay the skill positions, and

651
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: you end up suffering talent wise. Well, that's what kind

652
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: of reminds me with the Sun situation right now. They're

653
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: they got Michael Bridges on a rookie contract. That dudes

654
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: a twenty million dollar a year player, like he's that good.

655
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: And the reality is is like when they signed Michael Bridges,

656
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: it's either gonna cap strap them everywhere else or they're

657
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: gonna end up having to let him go because he

658
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: signed some gigantic offer sheet from some other team. It's

659
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: just the harsh reality of the way that you know,

660
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: like when we're when we're in the off season, there's

661
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: actually a good chance to to transfer. Uh here in

662
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: a minute. But like, the reality is is in the

663
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: off season, it's it's easy to be like, you know,

664
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: for guys like me to complain and be like, the

665
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: Lakers need more skill, but really, the best way to

666
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: have skill when you're cap strapped is to have a

667
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: young prospect like a talent Horton Tucker, who unfortunately is

668
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: gonna get paid this summer but unfortunately for him, but

669
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: unfortunately for the Lakers cap situation. But the reality is

670
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: is you need young players on rookie contracts making you know,

671
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: jack shit nothing relative to what their talent is in

672
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: order to kind of feel the fill those gaps, which

673
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: is why there is some value to draft picks, you know,

674
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: and things along those lines. Really quickly, before we move

675
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: on to the Lakers, just give me your pick for

676
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: how the series is going to end, uh, you know,

677
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: in a few sentences based on what you saw last night. Yeah,

678
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: and really quickly. Eight And also it's not a rookie deal,

679
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: so like exactly just think about this going. But I

680
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: have I have the sun. I picked the Sons in

681
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: six even with the honest healthy So that's I'm just

682
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: gonna stick to that. I think Milwaukee probably wins Game two,

683
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: but from there I trust money to kind of pick

684
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: and choose the lineups a little better than a coach bud.

685
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: And that's where I see this going. How about you.

686
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 1: I think the Bucks win Game three and that's all

687
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: I win. I think Phoenix is significantly better on both

688
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: ends of the ball. I think they're better defensive team

689
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: and a better offensive team. I think that uh game

690
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: five back in Phoenix, the close out game will be

691
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: an opportunity for the Suns to remember the way they

692
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: kind of tricked that game off against the Clippers, and

693
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: I think they'll attack it. And also it's a little

694
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: bit different in those close out games with the home crowd.

695
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: If if the true if he's at steak, like the

696
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: Lakers tricked off Game five against the against the heat Um.

697
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: Part of the reason, in my opinion, was because of

698
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: the lack of a crowd. If that's a Game five

699
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: in Staples Center to close out the heat people Larry

700
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: ob sitting in the tunnel, I think they win that game.

701
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: You know, there's a difference in your effort there, So

702
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: I expect I expect the Suns to play better. So

703
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to get Ros out of here in

704
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: the next ten minutes. So we're gonna do a little

705
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: bit of a rapid fire type of deal here. Um,

706
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna name the player. I'm gonna have you tell

707
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: me whether or not you think they're gonna stay or

708
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna go. And why our first player is Alex Crusoe.

709
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna stay. Um, I just feel like

710
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: the market isn't gonna like He's gonna get probably like

711
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: a ten million dollar deal, and I think the Lakers

712
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: are going to keep him for that. He's going to

713
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: be their priority number one in my opinion, Um, in

714
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: this in this offseason, he's a guy that they've developed

715
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: like themselves. Like he played in the G League for

716
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: the Lakers, and then he got called up and then

717
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: slowly by sure he became a starter in the NBA

718
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: Finals game. Just a guy that you can't lose for

719
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: nothing in my opinion, even if he's just kept a trade,

720
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: which I don't think he is. Um, Laker fans, don't

721
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: kill me, but like he's I think he's kept. I

722
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: think he's kept on the team. What about you, You

723
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: think he's back. I think he's back as well. I

724
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 1: think uh. I think he wants to play with lebron Um.

725
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: I think he understands. I think I think he genuinely

726
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: has no interest in playing for any other team. I

727
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: think it would take a gigantic financial chasm between what

728
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: he would get elsewhere, which, for the record, based on

729
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: how he played when everybody went down with injury this year,

730
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: not that he was bad by any stretch of the imagination,

731
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: but he doesn't look like a fifteen million dollar a

732
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: year guard. So I think the I think the Lakers

733
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: will be able to offer him a slight discount over

734
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: what he would get somewhere else. And I think he'll

735
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: end up signing with the Lakers, And I think it's

736
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: a good partnership. And and I think that when healthy,

737
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: he's one of the most valuable role players in the league,

738
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: when he's surrounded by guys who can do the heavy

739
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: lifting for him offensively, Um, Calent, Horton, Tucker. I also

740
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: think he's back. I'm nervous on the number he kind

741
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: of gets Um, but I feel like it's going to

742
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: be tough for a team to just throw ten fifteen

743
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: million dollars a year at him. But he's a clutch guy.

744
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: He's a guy, another guy that they've put a lot

745
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: of time into developing. We talked about it. I think

746
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: he was like the second the third most important part

747
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: of the season, just like the way that the season went,

748
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: they got developed battle minutes for him. I think he'll

749
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: be back. Um, he's a restricted free agent, so those

750
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: are a little bit more tricky for other teams to

751
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: throw money at because it kind of caps you for

752
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: like three or four days. I think he'll be back.

753
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: I think they'll they'll come at to a number that

754
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: that makes sense for me. Yeah, I think he'll be

755
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: back as well, if nothing else, out of pride, because

756
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: they clung to him as a trade during the trade

757
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: at that point, like if you let him walk over

758
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: a few million bucks, speak after you after you refuse

759
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: the d l M. I think I think that that

760
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: that starts to raise questions from the ownership, and that

761
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: starts to range raise questions from the fan base. Uh,

762
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: the questions that I don't think Rob wants to deal with.

763
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: So I think he'll be back based purely on that. Also,

764
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm you know you and I had a difference of

765
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: opinion with talent Norton Tucker this year just in his

766
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: value within this season, But I think you and I

767
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: are on the same page long term with him. I

768
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: really do see him as a as a as a

769
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: player that has a very high ceiling. I believe in

770
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: his work ethic and once again, every single game he

771
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: gave you this taste of this superstar type of talent.

772
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: In in the close out game against Phoenix, it was

773
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: that you know, uh fourth quarter tip slam that was

774
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: just absurd, you know, for for like for a guy

775
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, in that environment. And and so

776
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think I think

777
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: he's back, regardless of the number. At this point, you're

778
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: just praying that there's not some stupid GM out there.

779
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: You know. Was that rumor that came out a few

780
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: weeks ago that of some Eastern Conference GM who said

781
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: that they would offer talent Norton Tucker the max. I think,

782
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: I think anytime these gm start talking to reporters anonymously,

783
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: I take it with a grain of salt. There's also

784
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: god knows what kind of leverage campaign that is. It

785
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: could be Rich Paul literally just you know, b Essen

786
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: to try to to try to raise his value, give

787
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: the impression of some sort of of competitive market for him.

788
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: But I think I think they'll they'll they'll let him

789
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: go out there, and my guesses he'll go out there

790
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: and and sign some offer sheet and then the Lakers

791
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: will match match it and hopefully no more than fifteen

792
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: million a year. But we'll see that's high. That would

793
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: be the high. That would be the high end. Where like,

794
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: but here's here's the thing, man, Like, between you and me,

795
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: Let's say it's a four year, sixty million dollar deal.

796
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: Chances are in that third and fourth year, he's probably

797
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be worth more than fifteen millions. Guy,

798
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: he's he's he's got elite two way off guard written

799
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: all over him as as as his uh ceiling um.

800
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: Next one is Dennis Shooter. So Dennis is the one

801
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: where I'm so confused on what his market is because

802
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: I think we talked about it. I think he had

803
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: a good year. Um, but then you know, those six

804
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: games are hard to get out of your head. Even though,

805
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: like I feel like Game two, Game three are forgotten

806
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: in the ABYSS because the Lakers won those games and

807
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: he played really well. It's just when you go, oh,

808
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: for not in a playoff game, it really sticks on you.

809
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't know where he's going. Like I feel like

810
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: the Lakers should bring them back because they can't replace

811
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: his money. Like you don't. You don't lose Dennis Shooter.

812
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: I think you can spend on you know what you

813
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: lose is for I think he'll be back. But he's

814
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: one of the ones where I'm really questionable. If some if,

815
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: like some bad team was like, hey, we got a

816
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: starting point guard for the next few years that's above average.

817
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: Maybe he gets that this one. I'm not sure. What

818
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: do you what do you think? So at the end

819
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: of the day, some team out there is going to

820
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: talk themselves into the fact that Dennis can help them

821
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: and uh, and they're gonna know to get in the

822
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: bidding war, they're gonna have to pay an amount of money.

823
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: Dennis at his best this year was good. He was

824
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: good defensively as a ball pressure, point of attack guard. Um.

825
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: He was good as a passer in a way that

826
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: I didn't even think he could be coming into that season.

827
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 1: He clearly learned from his role and time spent around

828
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: lebron Um. And then you know, he had big moments

829
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: in the playoffs too. He had terrible moments in the playoffs,

830
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: but in the two wins that they had, he was

831
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: really good. Um, someone's gonna talk themselves into it. I

832
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: think that there will probably be a walk away from

833
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: the table number for the Lakers. If you're what you

834
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: have to hope for as a Lakers fan is that

835
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: that shell shock from what happened in two thousands sixteen

836
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: where so many players got overpaid. We'll just get people

837
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more frugal, and that he

838
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: ends up coming back to the Lakers hoping, you know,

839
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: for something in that you know, four years a d

840
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: type of range. But at the end of the day,

841
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: if it's four years eighty gets Dennis, you gotta take

842
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: him at Lakers because it's it's it's a talent exchange

843
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: that you can't afford to lose. It's a tradeable contract

844
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: at that number. And even if talent, like one of

845
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: our comments in the in the in the stream says,

846
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: what if we pay Dennis all this money only to

847
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: realize talent Horn Tucker is better midway through next season,

848
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: that's a good problem. You can as your trade your

849
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: trade dennists and you play t h D. It's not

850
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: that's a good problem. But at the end of the day,

851
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: you got you gotta bring him on as a trade

852
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: asid the only thing that gets tricky is all the

853
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: intel out there that the Bus family doesn't technically have

854
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: all that much money, and that when you get into

855
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: correlative to other owners, and that when you get into

856
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: a situation where when you get into a situation where

857
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: you're paying luxury tax, which is something that the Lakers

858
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: are gonna be dealing with in future seasons, it's a

859
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: lot easier for a Bomber to just cut the check

860
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: than it is for for Genie Buss. And and that

861
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: I would be interested to know what kind of conversations

862
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: are taking place behind the scenes between Rob and UH

863
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: and Genie about what their budget is, because if they're

864
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: willing to overpay, then you gotta you gotta overpay, especially

865
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: I think the two year window with Lebron. Yeah, and

866
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: I think they will. I mean, when you have Lebron

867
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: on your team, that's just you know, that kind of changes.

868
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: You're kind of spending not just from what you're earning,

869
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: but also you're spending power. Like It's just that's what

870
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: Lebron does to a team when he comes there. Cleveland

871
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: a luxury tax exactly Cleveland. Al he almost took Cleveland's

872
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: business with him, you know when he walked out the door,

873
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: like that's how that's how much he kind of interacts it.

874
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: And although also like, when you have this type of

875
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: star power, you have to spend. And I think they will.

876
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: They were in the luxury taxs, I think when they

877
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: were putting out lineups warning like twenty games a year

878
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, I'm sure. I'm sure they will. Yeah,

879
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: it's interesting to think about he was asking. I think

880
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: I think the Lakers offered him four years eighty four

881
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: or something in the middle of the season. He didn't

882
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: take it. I kind I think that's where they'll end

883
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: up at some number around there, and I can live

884
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: with that. I'll be good with that. Um. Two more alright,

885
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: next one is Andre Drummond and I think you and

886
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: I probably yeah. I think he's done his time in

887
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, like I think, and I think the way

888
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: he's talking as well, it kind of sounds that way

889
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: as well, just what he's been tweeting lately. He wouldn't

890
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: come back on the minimum is what he said, But

891
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: I feel like that's his market anyway. Um, I think

892
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: that experiment was tried, and I feel like you can

893
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: find other minimum bigs to be out there. I said

894
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: it before. I'm higher. I think on what he could

895
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: have brought to a healthy Laker team, Like I don't

896
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: think this team was ever healthy enough. But I don't know.

897
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: I think I'm done with the Drummond experience and I

898
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: feel like every game was just a conversation on Andre Drummond.

899
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: All the spaces we did, all anyone wanted to talk

900
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: about was why is Andre Drummond playing? Why is he

901
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: Why is he in the game? But what is he doing?

902
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: Why is he missing layups? I just think his his

903
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: time has kind of come to it, and I think,

904
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: uh mean that's good for both sides. What do you think?

905
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: So I agree, I think he's gone. I think it

906
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: comes down to the cap situation. Um, the reality is

907
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: is the Lakers can't offer anything other than the tax

908
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,439
Speaker 1: paaramid level exception or the veteran minimum contract. Uh, He's

909
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: not going to take a minimum contract. I don't think

910
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: I would say that there's a near one percent chance

911
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: that somebody out there in the thirty teams will offer

912
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: him their mid level mid level exception. So the only

913
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: way the Lakers could get him is by offering in

914
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: the mid level exception and no team offering more than that,

915
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: because I do think he would chase the money. The

916
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: question becomes, and this is something that Pete from Laker

917
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: Film Rooms kept talking about, do you take Drummond at

918
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: the mid level exception in place of a like an

919
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: inferior wing, meaning like, do you is it worth letting

920
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: drum and go to chase a guy who can allegedly

921
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: shoot because they need shooting, but he's actually not that

922
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: good of of a of a wing, you know what

923
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean? And and there's there's a there's cases to

924
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: be made on both sides that, but my guess is

925
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: that the Lakers will have the pick of the best

926
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: mid level exception type of guys and they'll end up

927
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: actually signing a quality wing shooter. That's my guests And

928
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: so from that regard, I think Drummond will end up

929
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: taking the middle level exception elsewhere. But if things shake out,

930
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: the one scenario where he returns is all he gets

931
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: is the m l E from the rest of the league,

932
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 1: and the Lakers can't find a good shooter, so they

933
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: take Drummond as just like a fallback plan. That's kind

934
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: of the way I see it. But his attitude is

935
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: so trash to me. And you know, this is something

936
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: Naples has been on the past few weeks and and

937
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: our friend Damon has been on as well. Like the Lakers,

938
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, their whole brand is this like blue collar

939
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: type of hard working type of team where Frank Vogel

940
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: just tells the truth to his players. Hey you're playing

941
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: to that, Hey you're not blah blah blah blah. The

942
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: whole thing with Rob Blinkl promising him a starting job

943
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: was weird. It's it's something that had no business doing,

944
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: and I don't want to I hope they never go

945
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: down that route again. And Drummond seems like the kind

946
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: of guy who's more interested in that than he is

947
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: and and kind of melding in with the locker room,

948
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: so I don't necessarily think it's worth keeping him unless

949
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: the cards really break, right. Yeah, I agree with all that.

950
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: And also it's like a use of your resource, allocation

951
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: of your resources, right, Like I thought this year was

952
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: a special year because of a short off season. I

953
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: was fine giving the mid level to like Montres Harrold,

954
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: who was a regular season player. It was kind of

955
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: known he was a regular season player. He would fill innings.

956
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: Um next season is back to a normal season. I

957
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: would like us use that on a player that can

958
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: play in the playoffs, you know, I feel like that.

959
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: I think that's more important than using that on you know,

960
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: like Andre Drummond, who even if he came back at

961
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: some deal, he'd be you know, he's like the third

962
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: string center you have, I think Davis Who's gonna play

963
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: center in the playoffs. So what's the point of using

964
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: that much of your Your really only thing you can

965
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: leverage to a free agent is that offer that tax

966
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: player m L e um and use that Andre Drummond

967
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 1: would just be an awful use of resources in my opinion.

968
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, good luck to Andre Drummond. So our

969
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: last name on the list is Kyle Kuzma. I think

970
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: ka Kuzma will be thrown in every single trade conversation

971
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: the Lakers are in. He's really there only like him

972
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: and KCP I guess are there like making mid money

973
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: that they can offer. Since THHD is a free agent,

974
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: as Custer free agent, that's the only guys that you

975
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: can really offer. So I feel like he played so

976
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: bad in the playoffs, that like he's going to be

977
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: back because it's gonna be hard to move him. Him

978
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: in the first round pick is really their only offers. Uh,

979
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: I think he'll be back, though it's just my gut feeling.

980
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: I think he'll be on the team next year. What

981
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: do you think. I think it's possible that he's on

982
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: the team next year. This one, i'm more kind of

983
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: my guests going to my head if I had to pick,

984
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: is that he'll be traded in the off season. A

985
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: couple of a couple of reasons why. First of all,

986
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: he's got a perfect tradeable contract. He plays in a

987
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: role where some GM out there is going to convince

988
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: themselves that he can be better in a bigger role. Uh,

989
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a team out there that could probably

990
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: use a wing score type of bench, kind of like

991
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: microwave type of dude. Um, it's important for both of

992
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: us because I know you and I are on the

993
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: same page here to say that Kuzma had a good

994
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: season in terms of the way he played in the

995
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: regular season. However, he had a horrible series against Phoenix,

996
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: and if he plays even remotely capable or close to

997
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: what he played in the regular season. That's probably a

998
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: more competitive series than it was there at the end. Um,

999
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: I think it's worth acknowledging that Kyle Kuzma has limitations

1000
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: in his game. He's similar to a uh Middleton Paul

1001
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: George type of dude that he actively seeks to build

1002
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: his rhythm by taking jump shots. Um, He's got a

1003
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: little bit of a low offensive basketball, a queue that

1004
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: causes him to take tough jump shots to build his

1005
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: rhythm instead of building his rhythm with easy jump shots,

1006
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: which is what makes him inconsistent and what makes him

1007
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: capable of going into long slumps. You know, more more

1008
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: than likely, I think the Lakers will be active in

1009
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 1: the trade market this year to try to bring in

1010
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: a high level shot maker, and they can't do it

1011
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: through a sign and trade, which means they're gonna need

1012
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: to use a mid level contract because I assigned trade

1013
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: with hardcap the Lakers, which would be at a suicide

1014
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: mission this year because it limits what they can do

1015
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: around him. UM. So, from that standpoint, I think that

1016
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: more than likely he gets thrown into a trade as

1017
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: a like kind of like a salary filler type. I

1018
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: think he is an asset for the record, I think

1019
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: I think that the I would probably bet that the

1020
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: vast majority of NBA GM's view him as a positive

1021
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: asset at the number that he's at, and he was

1022
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: on an extremely deep team that didn't have a ton

1023
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: of minutes or opportunity for him. Other teams out there

1024
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: are going to have more, um So I think I

1025
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: think that he'll get thrown into a trade. Someone will

1026
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: value him. I I'm in another pod you and I

1027
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: will dive into what those trades might look like. But

1028
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: my gun, in my head, my guess is that he

1029
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: gets traded. Yeah, definitely. I feel like he could be.

1030
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 1: I feel like he might be a guy that's probably

1031
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: easier trade at the trade deadline. I'm thinking, just easier

1032
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: to kind of move when when team are kind of

1033
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: decided on whether this season has gone. You know, at

1034
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, everybody thinks they have a

1035
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: chance to win, and then once the season goes on,

1036
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: you can kind of It's kind of like the Lou

1037
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: Williams deal. He reminds me of that Lou was making

1038
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: like eight million dollars a year. KU's I think it's

1039
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: like twelve point six or something like that. He's like

1040
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: I never would have thought Lou Williams would be like

1041
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: a primary ball handler in the conference finals after that

1042
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: trade what he almost retired remember, Yeah, and and again

1043
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: it's like to your point where offense is is is

1044
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: that such a high premium that like Lou Williams, even

1045
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 1: though I think this is part of the problem with Philly,

1046
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: and I guess you can get into that another time.

1047
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: But like, also Philly not beyond to take advantage of

1048
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: Lou Williams. But again, an offense is such a premium.

1049
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: He became so important and he won them. He was

1050
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: part of the reason they beat Philly, like, he had

1051
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: huge games. So it's interesting to look at that. But yeah,

1052
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: I think Kuzma's Kuzma can be talked into. Um. I

1053
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: think he's a good player. I think you know that

1054
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: I'm hiring on him than most people. Um. But it's

1055
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: just an awful series and that's hard to get out

1056
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: of people's heads. So we'll see. But yeah, I think

1057
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: it was a short It was a short series two

1058
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: like in terms like like I shouldn't even say short

1059
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: story short, playoff run. He didn't have a lot of

1060
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: opportunity really quickly before we get you out of here

1061
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: because I know you need to go. We had a

1062
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: question from the comments, would you prefer a more traditional

1063
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: wing player over Kuzman, like PJ. Tucker or Robert Covington'

1064
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: That's that's hard on this. I'm interested to see what

1065
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: you think. I don't know, Like, what do you mean

1066
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Speaker 1: by traditional, Like just a guy who just shoots the

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Speaker 1: traditional veteran wing like a p J. Tucker Robert guy

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Speaker 1: who defends and knocks down open shots some of the time,

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Speaker 1: like a thirty open three point shooter who's a pretty good,

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Speaker 1: too above average defensive player. Yeah, I mean I feel

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Speaker 1: like that's what Kuzma is supposed to be though, right

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Speaker 1: in this role. That is right now, I think right now,

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Speaker 1: and you're not getting those guys for the money that

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Speaker 1: I think Kuzma is making either. I mean, maybe you

1075
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Speaker 1: can get p J. Tucker, but he's like thirty five.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to really rely on him as

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Speaker 1: well in that I don't rather just keep Kuzma, to

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Speaker 1: be honest, Robert Covington went for two first round picks

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Speaker 1: last last year. I mean, so it's any makes I

1080
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Speaker 1: think like sixteen seventy million dollars a year so it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be tough to get him get

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Speaker 1: him on there, So you I'd rather just keep Kuzma honestly, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: me too. The one of the things that I think

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Speaker 1: people don't realize is like it's really easy after a

1085
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Speaker 1: series like that to be like, oh, Kuzma sucks. Kuzma sucks. Uh,

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Speaker 1: guess what, man like I get. P J. Tucker and

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Speaker 1: Robert Covington both have many playoff series on their record

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Speaker 1: that we're worse than what Kyle Kuzma did. Okay, Like

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Speaker 1: the point is is like, when you are a role player, uh,

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Speaker 1: and you have limited opportunity offensively, and you've played enough

1091
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Speaker 1: playoff series in your career, you're gonna have stinkers. So

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that's a problem. I think

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Speaker 1: I think the Lakers when it comes to these trade targets,

1094
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Speaker 1: need to be more aggressive for a shot maker, high

1095
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Speaker 1: end offensive skill player type of deal, like in the

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Speaker 1: mold of a Spencer Dinwoodie. And we'll get more into

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Speaker 1: that later. And I don't think Spencer is going to

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Speaker 1: be available for the Lakers, but that's the type of

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Speaker 1: player that the Lakers need to be looking at a

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Speaker 1: c J mccollumn, Like if the Blazers end up blowing

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Speaker 1: it up, anybody that's in that here that's not really

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Speaker 1: considered a star, but that's a high end shot making

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Speaker 1: offensive player. Those are the kinds of guys that you

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Speaker 1: need to be thrown a Kyle Kuzma type of dude at,

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Speaker 1: because the reality is is that the PJ. Tucker, Robert Covington,

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Speaker 1: you get that from Wesley Matthews, and Wesley Matthews is

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Speaker 1: available at three million a year. So you know, like

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you you have to

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Speaker 1: understand that that the value for what Kuzma brings, it

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Speaker 1: needs to be directed. And I agree with you. I

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Speaker 1: think right now, if I had to choose strictly for

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Speaker 1: defending and knocking down open shots, I think I'd probably

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Speaker 1: take Kyle Kuzma over Covington, or at least in the

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Speaker 1: same tier as a Covington and p JA Tucking player.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's not as good defensively as a p J. Tucker,

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Speaker 1: but he's close and and I would argue that Kuzma

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Speaker 1: is a better help defender than both of those guys,

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Speaker 1: or maybe not not as good as Covington, better than PJ,

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Speaker 1: So I'm with you. I think I would keep Kuzma

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Speaker 1: in that regard, but we gotta get you out of here.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking uh an hour out of

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Speaker 1: your morning. Roger and I are back from vacation, so

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Speaker 1: we'll try to get back into a good rhythm of

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Speaker 1: doing two or three DS a week. Actually, I think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do one after every game of this series.

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Speaker 1: In that case, Friday morning. Yeah, yeah, Friday morning. Let's

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Speaker 1: do it cool. All right, Thank you everyone. I'll have

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Speaker 1: the recording of this on our podcast speed shortly. Rogs.

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Speaker 1: Have a gooday at work, man, I'll see you later.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys. Thanks