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Speaker 3: But first we have.
Speaker 2: The host of the Enemy's List, the project's own, Rick Wilson.
Speaker 4: So it's like it's a rarity, but in a different place.
Speaker 5: It's a rarity. I believe this is our first in
Speaker 5: person podcast.
Speaker 4: Is that possible in all these years.
Speaker 3: It's our first in person podcast.
Speaker 4: Well we do the live shotow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get so much younger everything?
Speaker 4: FU you fuck your saying no, I love you right?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: I am old. It was my birthday yesterday.
Speaker 3: Was it a good cookie?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: It's terrible. I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: I've been told to be less depressed in the podcast,
Speaker 1: so I'm going to be less depressed.
Speaker 3: You should be less depressed. You know why?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 5: Right now in mar A Lago, Trump is bouncing off
Speaker 5: the fucking walls?
Speaker 4: Is he I thought he was in New Jersey?
Speaker 3: Wherever the fuck he is?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 5: I mean I could ask my digital trackers because they
Speaker 5: always know where he is because they know his phone
Speaker 5: like a submarine.
Speaker 1: It's like, what's nice about having Rick on the podcast
Speaker 1: is that he always wants to get clipped to be
Speaker 1: on an RNC equiprial.
Speaker 4: Like every moment he's like, I have his phone number.
Speaker 5: You could wake me up out of a sound sleep,
Speaker 5: and I can say something that'll piss them.
Speaker 3: Off, of them to put up their outrageous statements, like
Speaker 3: how this thing about.
Speaker 4: The love Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Producer Jessie wants us to talk about the Joe Biden speech,
Speaker 1: which I was assured by Nate Silver was too late
Speaker 1: at night.
Speaker 4: I love Nate Silver. He has so many hot takes.
Speaker 3: At least someone does.
Speaker 4: I don't either, but there was. But that's a hot
Speaker 4: hot take that it was too late at night. Aren't
Speaker 4: all these conventions.
Speaker 5: Speaking speeches and moaning about the convention like not being
Speaker 5: exactly every convention I've ever been to? And guys, I've
Speaker 5: been to every convention since the dawn of time? Right,
Speaker 5: Dinosaurs were probably the deeds, Like when I've been to
Speaker 5: previous Democratic conventions, it has been to funk around.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm sure whether with the Green Party candidate.
Speaker 5: I'll never tell, Speaking of which, I just had an
Speaker 5: encounter with Mary and Williamson and by which someone said
Speaker 5: you should meet Mary and.
Speaker 3: Williamson and I said, no, I was she there? Yes,
Speaker 3: I could feel the aura shifting in the road.
Speaker 4: Doesn't like me. She used to be friends with my mom, well.
Speaker 5: Long story short, all right, Biden. I would have written
Speaker 5: the speech differently. Yes, I've got my particular speech writing style.
Speaker 5: I would have done embrace Kamala, endorse the ticket, boom
Speaker 5: boom boom, really upfront, indict Trump, and then lead out
Speaker 5: on the valedictory note about the family, his career, his life. Instead,
Speaker 5: it was sort of one two three one two three
Speaker 5: one two, and that made the speech feel longer than
Speaker 5: it was. Look, all the elements in the speech were fine.
Speaker 5: I would have just changed the order of go on
Speaker 5: how you did it, because I think if you had
Speaker 5: let out with that big uplift of Kamala, it would
Speaker 5: have been inside the news window more and you would
Speaker 5: have gotten a little boost out of it. But look,
Speaker 5: it was a long speech. They were trying to jam
Speaker 5: a lot into it. I did not hate it.
Speaker 1: The goal here is to get Biden to take the
Speaker 1: bullets for Camela. Right, he's going to go against Trump,
Speaker 1: dark brand. His goal is to go against Trump so
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to write. That's the sort of unpset
Speaker 1: bit of this, right is that he surrogates so she
Speaker 1: doesn't have to.
Speaker 5: That's exactly right. And the deal here is that as president.
Speaker 5: He still commands a gigantic megaphone, right, and he can
Speaker 5: bring heat and pressure and.
Speaker 4: Astonishment to Trump, right.
Speaker 5: And they know the lesson we've taught them is if
Speaker 5: you poke Trump, he will respond, right. So I want
Speaker 5: Donald trying to be trying to litigate Joe Biden for
Speaker 5: the next seventy four days. Right.
Speaker 1: And in fact, what happened, what we saw on truth
Speaker 1: social quote unquote truth, is that Trump had immediately went
Speaker 1: after Biden course, and not after anyone else. And I
Speaker 1: think it's interesting to me that there still is such
Speaker 1: a like magnetism between like Trump obviously cannot pivot, right.
Speaker 1: He was he was excited to run against Biden. Now
Speaker 1: he is no longer running against Biden, but to him,
Speaker 1: he's still running against Biden.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.
Speaker 5: They gave him a very comfortable frame to live in
Speaker 5: for a year.
Speaker 3: He's old.
Speaker 5: Will beat him because he's old, will beat him because
Speaker 5: he's old, will beat him because he's old.
Speaker 3: And when Trump became the old man in the race.
Speaker 1: Right, well, then do we spending millions of dollars on
Speaker 1: mental acuity and then having that guy drop out and
Speaker 1: being all of a sudden the oldest person ever run
Speaker 1: for president is really something.
Speaker 3: It's beautiful, It's brighter than the thousand suns. It's fantastic.
Speaker 5: And look when you end up with a campaign team
Speaker 5: of Lasovita and Wiles who promised him that it was
Speaker 5: going to be easy because.
Speaker 3: He had checked out, let's be real, he was playing
Speaker 3: golf three days a week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean he had to pay those legal bills. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense.
Speaker 3: But he thought he was going to win. He thought
Speaker 3: it was going to be an easy skate.
Speaker 5: And at the end of the day, when the when
Speaker 5: the field changed, the inevitable blow ups started to happen,
Speaker 5: you know, and his his truthing behavior, his his press behavior,
Speaker 5: you know, layering Corey Leewandowski between Susy Wilds and Chriss Losovita.
Speaker 4: I mean, and if you're a it's a recipe for success.
Speaker 5: If you're a campaign that's struggling with women voters, your solution.
Speaker 4: Better than that everyone.
Speaker 1: But one of the things that Biden I think stuck
Speaker 1: into the speech because it wasn't orated in the style
Speaker 1: of the rest of the speech, he said, no one
Speaker 1: told me to drop out.
Speaker 4: It was my decision.
Speaker 1: You notice that he just added that as an ad
Speaker 1: lib line, he had two ad lib lines.
Speaker 5: That line and the one about the cause of protesters
Speaker 5: outside may have a point or whatever.
Speaker 3: Right, those were two ad libs that were that.
Speaker 4: Were more important than everything else in this speech.
Speaker 3: In might I added up a lot to the depth
Speaker 3: of what he was doing.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: And I also think like that is the thing because
Speaker 1: there's so much political writing, political journalism about the idea
Speaker 1: that the idea that that that Biden had been pushed out,
Speaker 1: when in fact, I really felt like what Biden was
Speaker 1: trying to say last night was he was not pushed out. Now, again,
Speaker 1: none of us know what really happened, but I did
Speaker 1: think that, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, that was your last name is Biden. You don't
Speaker 3: know what really really happened?
Speaker 1: Ye, And let me say this, I mean, and remember
Speaker 1: this is a Republican talking point.
Speaker 4: Republicans want all they wanted to.
Speaker 5: Let me say this, If Joe Biden, for the purposes
Speaker 5: of his valedictory moment, wants to set the history with
Speaker 5: that being the case, I don't care. All I care
Speaker 5: about is that we have a smooth transition to the
Speaker 5: new candidate.
Speaker 3: And we do. And and Biden was graceful about it
Speaker 3: last night. He I mean, you noticed as he was
Speaker 3: going through talking.
Speaker 5: About the record and Kamala and I, Kamala and I
Speaker 5: did this, we together achieved this, and all that is
Speaker 5: really important, I think because she's going to accrue the
Speaker 5: positive benefits of things like the Chips and Science Act,
Speaker 5: the Infrastructure Bill, the Infationial Reduction Act. So look, if
Speaker 5: that's the moment he wants to have the valedictory moment
Speaker 5: of this thing, I'm fine with that. I think that's great.
Speaker 5: I think that's wonderful. And I also want to say
Speaker 5: his case against Trump. If you just pulled out the
Speaker 5: case he made against Trump, the segments of the speech
Speaker 5: were just the was the the clarification of who Trump is,
Speaker 5: and the defensive democra I would have taken just that.
Speaker 5: I mean, if he walked out and said, I endorsed Kamala,
Speaker 5: here are the ten things that make Donald Trump unacceptable
Speaker 5: for the president, right, drop the mic, walking off the stage,
Speaker 5: that would have been swinging off the rafters.
Speaker 1: Well, but that's again politicians, like, no politician is going
Speaker 1: to take that much airtime and be like, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna do something really short here, because people will like
Speaker 1: it better.
Speaker 4: You know, there's none of that. And in fact, like
Speaker 4: the fact that it ran long.
Speaker 1: It ran long because these kinds of things run long
Speaker 1: because politicians love to talk.
Speaker 5: Listen, everybody who was last night in the media, there
Speaker 5: was a little media class grumblefest. I say, this convention
Speaker 5: is badly organized. It's running twenty minutes behind.
Speaker 4: Have you met Democrats?
Speaker 5: Have you met Republicans. I've been to a lot of conventions.
Speaker 5: Nothing ever runs on time. I'm a former advanced guy.
Speaker 5: Nothing ever runs on time. I must speech trader, nothing
Speaker 5: ever runs on time.
Speaker 4: Well, I was, there's a bullshit.
Speaker 1: I waited online for like an hour and a half
Speaker 1: yesterday to get through the magnantimers magnet whatever.
Speaker 4: Well, anyway, I waited pronouns process. That's right, thank you.
Speaker 1: I did not think it was a well organized moment
Speaker 1: when national whatever.
Speaker 5: Listen, every convention I've ever been to runs behind schedule.
Speaker 5: They do not run on time. People get pulled off
Speaker 5: the schedule. That's nothing unique or new or special or
Speaker 5: or indicative of anything beyond the fact that when a
Speaker 5: politician is on the stage and that with the in
Speaker 5: the national spotlight, they're going to drag every god damn
Speaker 5: millisecond they came.
Speaker 4: Right, No, of course, because I mean what we do, right.
Speaker 3: I mean, And here's the thing.
Speaker 5: It's interesting because if this had been Biden running for reelection,
Speaker 5: there would be a lot more people trying to have
Speaker 5: an Obama moment on the stage. There'd be a lot
Speaker 5: more people trying to have a have a moment where
Speaker 5: they get noticed.
Speaker 4: Where the buzz important point right there?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're the buzz classes. Oh look at who did
Speaker 5: so well on the stage. I don't think we have
Speaker 5: that as much right now because the sense is if
Speaker 5: she wins, she's going to run again, and.
Speaker 4: You know, the next eight years are kind of taken
Speaker 4: care of it.
Speaker 1: You guys are going to be so old by the
Speaker 1: time you get quote unquote discovered. Yeah, really good point. Right,
Speaker 1: So Jesse wants us to talk. This is all his
Speaker 1: fault about. Rick Willson is in trouble again. Discuss I'm
Speaker 1: actually not in trouble.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump is threatened to sue us again the third time?
Speaker 4: Does he just threaten to see you all the time?
Speaker 3: This is the third time?
Speaker 4: Now, okay, why is he mad at you? What did
Speaker 4: you because we ran an.
Speaker 5: Ad basically saying that he was a fool for believing
Speaker 5: our previous ad that said that christ and Susy were
Speaker 5: not running a good campaign and that Jadvance was a
Speaker 5: bad choice. And then they'd really screwed up, and Biden
Speaker 5: left the race, and they told him he wouldn't leave
Speaker 5: the race, and so of course he's losing his mind
Speaker 5: about it, and they send these usual like breathless lawyer
Speaker 5: letters from the Dylan law firm.
Speaker 4: What is that?
Speaker 3: It's hard meat Dylan, that Republican?
Speaker 1: Yes, right, she's also a conservative television host.
Speaker 3: Yes, she's also on some damn channel, right.
Speaker 4: On a channel you can't.
Speaker 7: Can't spill.
Speaker 5: But once again he's threatening us, and once again it's
Speaker 5: like this is the third time. And at some point,
Speaker 5: like the guy he said, I'm gonna come and hit
Speaker 5: you in the nose, will come hit me bingch come on,
Speaker 5: try it.
Speaker 4: That's nice.
Speaker 5: And of course, of course if he does do it,
Speaker 5: if he does do it, he goes into Discovery, And
Speaker 5: as George Conway tweeted this morning, it's like, because I'm like,
Speaker 5: Discovery will be the most fun.
Speaker 4: I have to tell you.
Speaker 1: George Conway, who is a friend of this podcast and ours,
Speaker 1: and who gave me a very cool green pin yesterday
Speaker 1: that said comment on it is so incredibly All he
Speaker 1: wants to do is troll Trump and he's given so
Speaker 1: much fun just to Biden.
Speaker 3: Just give me.
Speaker 1: More than a million dollars Biden. You know he's a
Speaker 1: super donor VIP at this time.
Speaker 5: I want George to be the ambassador to wherever he
Speaker 5: wants to be the ambassador.
Speaker 4: I want him to be the ambassador because you and I.
Speaker 3: Could go and hang out with George's ambassador.
Speaker 1: That I don't think we'll ever get past the social secretary,
Speaker 1: by the way, the whole fantasy that somehow we are
Speaker 1: going to be like staying in the Lincoln bedroom of
Speaker 1: Ambassador George Conway's house in Japan.
Speaker 4: Where are we going here?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 4: Are you going to get so here's the hot take.
Speaker 4: Are you going to get sued?
Speaker 3: He's not going to sue us. At the end of
Speaker 3: the day.
Speaker 5: It's one more It's one more thing about him. The
Speaker 5: bluster and the bullshit and the lying and the tough
Speaker 5: guy act. It's just like every other part of his
Speaker 5: tough guy act. He will threaten, he will say this ship,
Speaker 5: we didn't sue us when we put the billboards of
Speaker 5: Avanka and Jared up in Times Square.
Speaker 4: Oh, I remember us.
Speaker 3: We put the mean ads on Fox that called him impotent.
Speaker 4: So many years of this, that's the thing.
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, dude, is this.
Speaker 4: How you want to spend your seventies at some point?
Speaker 5: Look, when I'm in my seventies, I hope I'm like
Speaker 5: writing thoughtful books and entertaining my grandchildren with war stories
Speaker 5: from the Great Trump Revolution, and speaking of which I'm
Speaker 5: about to be a grandfather any minute.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's right, we've heard about it.
Speaker 3: Bounce off the walls and bounced off the walls.
Speaker 4: You're always founding.
Speaker 3: I can't deny that there is That is not a
Speaker 3: correct statement, But.
Speaker 1: I do think it's a really good point that this is.
Speaker 1: You know, they try to intimidate people. We think about
Speaker 1: the media matters, the lawsuits, the ways in which they've
Speaker 1: tried to sue people who've tried to hold them accountable.
Speaker 1: I think about Pro Publica.
Speaker 5: I think the one reason he actually never does sue
Speaker 5: us is he knows that every piece of paper they
Speaker 5: send us we will make public.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 3: Our lawyers are like pirates.
Speaker 5: Right, they will mount his ship and slaughter everyone on
Speaker 5: the deck.
Speaker 3: We will go into discovery.
Speaker 1: And I love, by the way, every conversation with Brick
Speaker 1: Wilson ends up in like a violent metaphor of pirates,
Speaker 1: I mean were in politics. But yes, I do think
Speaker 1: that's a really good point.
Speaker 5: And I know it'll be like releasing rabid wolverines in
Speaker 5: a daycare center.
Speaker 3: That's what it's going to look like if his lawfer
Speaker 3: goes at us. So we're here, it's.
Speaker 1: No, no, you know, I'm actually in a really bad mood,
Speaker 1: but you actually cheered me a little bit.
Speaker 3: Why are you in a bad mood?
Speaker 4: I'm always in a bad mood. I'm fine, I'm not
Speaker 4: shuld be in.
Speaker 3: A better mood because right now now we're winning. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're winning.
Speaker 4: I'm curious in your mind.
Speaker 1: Like the things that I found very moment off were like, like,
Speaker 1: for example, the fact check on the speeches yesterday.
Speaker 4: What the right?
Speaker 3: So these people are like, we can't fact check Trump
Speaker 3: in real time and that, and yet somehow they managed
Speaker 3: to do that with the president, right.
Speaker 1: So there was so someone last night was talking about
Speaker 1: these love letters, the Kim Jong oun love letters, and
Speaker 1: then fact check was like, we actually have it that
Speaker 1: he did not letters, but Trump said he said letter.
Speaker 5: Of course he did, and he said he and he
Speaker 5: took the Kim letters in the documents that he illegally
Speaker 5: retained at.
Speaker 4: Marlwall Right, So doesn't that count as love letters.
Speaker 5: The fact that they're just trying to play this thing
Speaker 5: out and to play it, they're trying to both sides
Speaker 5: this thing, because it's like, this is the broken nature
Speaker 5: of a lot of reporting and a lot of fact
Speaker 5: checking right now. It's like they will say Trump said
Speaker 5: outrageous lie x, but then we'll just like flatly report
Speaker 5: it was like Trump falsely claimed that that Kamala Harris
Speaker 5: is a raging communist who wants to.
Speaker 3: Seize the means. And yet when you end up with
Speaker 3: these fine grain fact.
Speaker 1: Checks on whether or not there were as you know, species, it's.
Speaker 3: Kind of silly.
Speaker 5: But look, there there's a little crankiness here with a
Speaker 5: lot of the journalism class.
Speaker 3: They don't feel like they're getting enough floor access or
Speaker 3: whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And quite frankly, just to be honest, they are absolutely
Speaker 1: this This administration has has really been quite irritated much
Speaker 1: of the mainstream media.
Speaker 5: I can't blame them, you know, Honestly, it's like the
Speaker 5: fuck me, fuck you principle in the world. We've seen it.
Speaker 5: And then look this fact checking fuckery. And I think
Speaker 5: this is like a really big moment in the next
Speaker 5: two months because we have to focus on this is
Speaker 5: that if you treat both sides of the lie as
Speaker 5: a valid question, you're doing this wrong. Because Trump is
Speaker 5: a liar at scale. Everything he says is going to
Speaker 5: be fact checkable, right. And so when Harris asserts something
Speaker 5: like yesterday, I was seeing this stuff about the twenty
Speaker 5: five thousand dollars home buyer.
Speaker 1: Right, which, by the way, made Elon Musk so mad. Right,
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything make him so mad. You have
Speaker 1: billions of dollars from government subsidies, right, but twenty five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, which is, by the way, like how much
Speaker 1: he pays for coffee?
Speaker 4: Right, A rounding error.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I'm sure that's his ketamine budget.
Speaker 1: Oh that is like we do not that is not
Speaker 1: I would not say that. I'm saying I'm sure he
Speaker 1: is joking. That is one of those jokes that funny
Speaker 1: people make.
Speaker 3: Come.
Speaker 5: But one of the fact checks I saw was like
Speaker 5: the Heritage Foundation said that that would be I'm like, wait,
Speaker 5: you're going to that heritage found You're going to Project
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five boys to fact check.
Speaker 3: No, that's not how this works, you know.
Speaker 5: And I will say this Elon getting mad at that
Speaker 5: and getting mad at her talking about a child tax
Speaker 5: deduction and crazy.
Speaker 4: He has so many children, you think you'd like it.
Speaker 5: But here's the other thing, Elon and and Tucker and
Speaker 5: all these other people, like, there are no more babies
Speaker 5: being born.
Speaker 3: We must have more man.
Speaker 5: Okay, well, how how don't you make the economy not
Speaker 5: suck as much for people who want to buy have babies,
Speaker 5: or buy a first home or get married.
Speaker 3: Right, maybe that could help them.
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Why would we do something like that?
Speaker 4: Right now? That's that's communism?
Speaker 3: It is full communists?
Speaker 4: Or is it communism?
Speaker 5: One of the things I think that's driving Trump particularly crazy.
Speaker 5: He has not stuck a nickname on her yet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he can't do it.
Speaker 1: By the way, just one second, I love him on
Speaker 1: how beautiful she is and he.
Speaker 3: Wants to sleep with her. Okay.
Speaker 5: My friend Miyam I think, was the first person to
Speaker 5: come up with this theory. He's like, she's like the
Speaker 5: girl who said no to the problem. Right, and he
Speaker 5: can't stop talking about her. He can't stop thinking about her.
Speaker 1: And last night, or it was a few nights ago,
Speaker 1: when he went on and on about how much he
Speaker 1: how he was actually more attractive than she was.
Speaker 4: That's a rabbit hole.
Speaker 5: I don't want to go I don't want to ever
Speaker 5: go down that rabbit hole. But you know he's taken.
Speaker 5: And he was like talking about the drawing that time
Speaker 5: magazine did every yes, and he was like that drawing
Speaker 5: was made her so beautiful as it made her so
Speaker 5: gorgeous and so so compelling, and and I had to
Speaker 5: tape it up over the ceiling over my bed.
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ, always pushing it too far.
Speaker 3: Yes, you just missed it.
Speaker 4: Jesse's like I just want to die.
Speaker 3: He just is like kill me now.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Fast Politics. Are you the newest senator.
Speaker 7: I am the newest Senator. I am number one hundred.
Speaker 1: Senator Butler, You're so important for any number of reasons.
Speaker 1: But you have seen both sides of what's happening right now,
Speaker 1: from the fundraising, from the politics, from the policy. Your
Speaker 1: close personal friend of the Vice president have her ear.
Speaker 4: What is this moment like for you?
Speaker 7: It is a whirlwind, It truly is.
Speaker 9: You know, I appreciate so much the experiences that I've
Speaker 9: had getting to this moment, from spending twenty years in
Speaker 9: the movement to be in at Emily's List, to working
Speaker 9: with the Vice President when she was running for president herself,
Speaker 9: and you know, now being in the United States Senate
Speaker 9: as the only black woman in the chamber and the
Speaker 9: third the third ever in history, replacing what was the
Speaker 9: role of Vice President Eras when she was the Senator
Speaker 9: from California. It truly has been an incredible experience to see,
Speaker 9: you know, what President Biden chose to do in terms
Speaker 9: of his the choice and leadership that he made and
Speaker 9: passing the baton to the Vice president.
Speaker 7: I've known her for fifteen years.
Speaker 9: What I know about her is that she's the exact
Speaker 9: kind of leader that our country needs and deserves in
Speaker 9: this moment, and so I am going to do everything
Speaker 9: and anything to help make that happen. And so it's
Speaker 9: been a whirlwind, it's been NonStop.
Speaker 1: Part of your appointment was you said you weren't going
Speaker 1: to run for the Senate seat. You have two black
Speaker 1: women running for Senate seats because the numbers are just
Speaker 1: so unfair and present. Does that make you feel better.
Speaker 9: Let's start with the premise of the question, mall, because
Speaker 9: there was you know, people assume that I had this
Speaker 9: kind of this agreement with governor with Governor Newsom, and
Speaker 9: the facts are of you actually go back and look
Speaker 9: at his public statements just prior to him announcing my appointment.
Speaker 9: He said that whoever he picked was free to do
Speaker 9: whatever they wanted to do. I was very clear that
Speaker 9: if I was going to consider this, I was going
Speaker 9: to make the decision to run based on my own terms,
Speaker 9: not any agreement that I would.
Speaker 7: Have with Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 9: I had actually done the work to figure out if
Speaker 9: I could raise the money. I had done the work
Speaker 9: to figure that out. I was not worried about raising
Speaker 9: the money either. Could I do the endorsements because I
Speaker 9: put the kind of California coalition required to win together,
Speaker 9: and I was able to assess very quickly that I
Speaker 9: absolutely could.
Speaker 7: And then the question was did I want to do it?
Speaker 9: And I know that both Angela also Brooks and Lisa
Speaker 9: Blunt Rochester want to be in the United States Senate
Speaker 9: for as long as it takes to move our country forward,
Speaker 9: and I couldn't give that same commitment to California.
Speaker 7: I don't know if I'm willing to be.
Speaker 9: There for six years plus six years plus six years.
Speaker 9: I'm only forty five, and I don't think about power
Speaker 9: as permanent, right, Like, if anybody is in that seat,
Speaker 9: it is not the seat that they have, It is
Speaker 9: the seat that the people of California have. And if
Speaker 9: I wasn't prepared to do that fully, I should actually
Speaker 9: just step aside and let Californians decide who they want
Speaker 9: to pick.
Speaker 4: Now, I feel like you should stay in the seat.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry to tell you. How is this my feeling?
Speaker 1: She has so seamlessly transitioned to the candidate. There were
Speaker 1: so many mediocre white guys who said she couldn't do it.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like I feel.
Speaker 1: Like there must be so many black women who are
Speaker 1: told they can't do it. And when you watch her,
Speaker 1: she's only been doing this for a month and it
Speaker 1: has been beyond anyone while those expectations tell us what
Speaker 1: you think.
Speaker 9: Music runs very deep in my family and it has
Speaker 9: so many purposes. There's an old Kirk Franklin song called
Speaker 9: look at Me Now. And what I think black women
Speaker 9: across this country are singing right now as an anthem
Speaker 9: is look at me now. Look at what Kamala Harris
Speaker 9: is doing as vice president and now you know, soon
Speaker 9: to be presidential nominee for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 7: When everybody doubted what she could.
Speaker 9: Do, she is showing them at every step of the way,
Speaker 9: and day after day with the biggest decision that she'll
Speaker 9: ever make in terms of deciding her vice presidential running
Speaker 9: mate to her theme song of Freedom by Beyonce right,
Speaker 9: she is making choices that exemplify and give voice to
Speaker 9: so many people. So many people can see themselves in
Speaker 9: her candidacy, and black women and I hope every woman.
Speaker 7: It's like, look at me now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you must be so proud.
Speaker 7: So I am thrilled. I am thrilled it.
Speaker 9: The this is a Kamala Harrison I've known for fifteen years.
Speaker 9: There's nothing new that's showing up about her.
Speaker 5: It is weird, and.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she's fantastic. She's always been fantastic.
Speaker 9: She is meeting this moment with the urgency that it requires,
Speaker 9: and I think inspiring voters to not just see the
Speaker 9: pains of yesterday, but to imagine the dreams of tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you.
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Speaker 4: Okay, so we're at the DNC. Yeah, I ran into
Speaker 4: Karen Scott.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we're trying to take the stage mother them.
Speaker 4: What do you think the feeling here?
Speaker 6: The feeling is I cannot believe they let Scott nine.
Speaker 10: That's really the feeling is one of a big mistakes.
Speaker 10: I saw it from my hotel room last night. But
Speaker 10: it's and it's mostly made for TV. But I like
Speaker 10: the vibe is great, you know, I just felt good,
Speaker 10: felt very optimistic. Went a little bit long, but yeah,
Speaker 10: the whole electric is the word I would use.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the last part with Joe Biden getting angry was
Speaker 6: a little much, but I thought mostly it should be
Speaker 6: about her, like it was goodbye Joe and even closing
Speaker 6: the chatter on Trump everything else. That's where they really
Speaker 6: need to go. I want a little more hope. I
Speaker 6: like her forward stuff. I want to hear more about
Speaker 6: the forward.
Speaker 1: So here's a question for you guys, tech regulation. I
Speaker 1: think of you guys as sort of.
Speaker 6: The ex whizzes to tell you you're texperts, we're influencers.
Speaker 4: I think of you as is texperts. That's terrible. The
Speaker 4: entrepreneur do you like for entrepreneur.
Speaker 6: Oh no, that's another word.
Speaker 4: I say. I'm a member of the gig economy. The
Speaker 4: gig what about you?
Speaker 3: Just male escort?
Speaker 1: I mean, no tech regulation is my hobby.
Speaker 4: This is as good as it gets for me.
Speaker 1: Like, there was a lot of anxiety that Biden was
Speaker 1: like maybe to regulation heavy or maybe not tech regulation
Speaker 1: heavy enough.
Speaker 6: So tell me there's no regulations, right, I mean they're
Speaker 6: mad at Lena Khan, right, although some conservatives like her.
Speaker 6: Conservatives Look, magg Gets is a fan. Jd Vance is
Speaker 6: a fan. There's been no regulation to.
Speaker 4: Speak to you.
Speaker 6: Do you feel like they can't they can't merge as
Speaker 6: much as they want. That's really pretty much it.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Scott, you go on, Yeah.
Speaker 10: I think there's an opportunity that's being missed so far,
Speaker 10: and that is inflation is obviously a cudgel or something
Speaker 10: they're being attacked on, and they should connect the dots between.
Speaker 10: The key to bringing down inflation is to breaking up
Speaker 10: monopolies and if you will, oxygenerating the economy so there's
Speaker 10: more competition. There is a ton of innovation that's trapped
Speaker 10: and mostly sequestered to shareholders. If we want inflation and
Speaker 10: pricing to come down. It's pretty simple. You need to
Speaker 10: break up companies such that there's more competition and prices
Speaker 10: will come down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 10: CAPITALI those thoughts and they haven't connected those dots.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I'm married to a VC, so I
Speaker 4: totally you know it.
Speaker 6: Coers is more tech friendly than Joe Biden. That is
Speaker 6: absolutely true, this whole thing, the tech bros. I'm like,
Speaker 6: are you kidding? You'd be a favor to get her.
Speaker 6: Jomp doesn't know what he's talking about. He shifts on
Speaker 6: a dime, and he's bought and paid for by whether
Speaker 6: it's crypto or TikTok people or whatever. So she does
Speaker 6: know the area, and she's quite a medium she I
Speaker 6: would say medium. I've had lots of arguments that she
Speaker 6: didn't go far enough as Attorney general, right, but you know,
Speaker 6: I think they expect she's much more centrist than probably
Speaker 6: more more friendly to crypto than they think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, can we talk about crypto for one? If we
Speaker 4: have to?
Speaker 1: There is, like on the right, a nefarious play for
Speaker 1: crypto to.
Speaker 4: Sort of wanted the price to go up. That's it? So,
Speaker 4: I mean, is that just it?
Speaker 1: You think it's just merely like a short term crypto play,
Speaker 1: or do you think there's like more nefarious noness trying
Speaker 1: to drive down the dollar or create I mean.
Speaker 6: Well, some of these aren't the world's sharpest.
Speaker 10: Tax, but I would reverse that they want to drive
Speaker 10: down the dollar such that their crypto investments will go up.
Speaker 10: It's happened in softer forms across all of politics, but
Speaker 10: this is straight naked kleptocracy right and also quite frankly,
Speaker 10: crypto is brightens up a room as a topic by
Speaker 10: leaving it. It's a small part of the economy. We're
Speaker 10: talking about an entire sector that has a market capitalization
Speaker 10: that is less than Apple. We spent too much time
Speaker 10: talking about it. It makes for great news because a
Speaker 10: small group of individuals have decided to try and buy
Speaker 10: a vice president such that they can shoot the prices
Speaker 10: of their portfolio companies. Northward eight naked pay for play cliptok.
Speaker 6: And you saw Ron Conway, who had given some money
Speaker 6: around crypto. He's got some crypto investments, he's he's been
Speaker 6: a democratic donor. Suddenly try to get rid of shared
Speaker 6: Brown in Ohio. The crypto bros tried to do it
Speaker 6: and he pulled out of the whole thing because it
Speaker 6: makes no sense because you know, look these again, they're
Speaker 6: the most noxious people in tech right now. I would say,
Speaker 6: and that's a it's a very.
Speaker 1: Little large, be noxious all in crowd, the famous, the famous,
Speaker 1: famous party.
Speaker 6: I would say our podcast is bigger than them, but
Speaker 6: they tried by a lot of podcasts.
Speaker 4: I think my podcast is bigger than that.
Speaker 6: But anyway, whatever, whatever. They it's a nice hobby for
Speaker 6: rich men.
Speaker 4: No, it's rich. Yeah, it's a nice hobby.
Speaker 10: What do you think, Scott, I haven't listened to it.
Speaker 10: They have a following, good for them.
Speaker 6: We need multiple voices, we need lots of yes, we
Speaker 6: need we need the aggrieved rich people need.
Speaker 4: Can't billionaires have a say?
Speaker 6: I know, I know, they're so quiet, you're so censored.
Speaker 4: We need more billionaires making content because no comments.
Speaker 1: We went to and clothes when Jesse's like, please stop anyway,
Speaker 1: Thank you, bis you guys a mass.
Speaker 2: Peggy Flann again is the Lieutenant governor from Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Fast Politics, Lieutenant Governor Peggy flan again.
Speaker 11: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: So you are the Lieutenant governor of Minnesota, and you
Speaker 1: are soon to be the governor of Minnesota.
Speaker 11: Well, if everything goes according to plan and we elect
Speaker 11: Kamala Harris and Tim Walls, but we got a lot
Speaker 11: of work to do over the coming days.
Speaker 1: Were you shocked when he was picked as a VP?
Speaker 1: I mean I wasn't because he's the Midwestern dad this
Speaker 1: country needs.
Speaker 4: But were you surprised?
Speaker 11: I don't know if I was surprised as much as
Speaker 11: just bursting with joy. I you know, have worked closely
Speaker 11: with him for the last six years and have just
Speaker 11: seen him lead with heart and compassion and his big
Speaker 11: dad energy, which is absolutely for real. And so I'm
Speaker 11: a little biased, but I think Kamala Harris made an
Speaker 11: amazing pick for her vice president medential candidate. But it's
Speaker 11: just been fun to watch and he's got so much
Speaker 11: joy and it feels like a new day.
Speaker 1: The way he came into my life was I was
Speaker 1: told again and again that Minnesota was enacting this amazing
Speaker 1: legislation and it wasn't such a blue state and it
Speaker 1: was really a purple state, and we needed to look
Speaker 1: at this state that had all of this incredible legislation,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking progressive legislation like free breakfasts, free lunches,
Speaker 1: you know, feeding hungry children, that.
Speaker 4: Kind of thing.
Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if you can just talk to us
Speaker 1: about how you guys did that?
Speaker 11: Sure well for Governor Wallas, he is a teacher first
Speaker 11: and foremost, and I think he saw exactly what it
Speaker 11: meant when children didn't have foutiat. You can't exactly ase
Speaker 11: your geography tests if you're hungry, you know. And I
Speaker 11: was a kid who grew up on free and reduced
Speaker 11: price lunch. I was that kid with a different colored
Speaker 11: lunch ticket. So removing that stigma from children is so powerful.
Speaker 11: And we have now had the opportunity to serve both
Speaker 11: breakfast and lunch at schools across Minnesota and the only
Speaker 11: question that you have to ask kids is do you
Speaker 11: want pancakes or French toast dunkers? And that's exactly how
Speaker 11: it should be. It is progressive policy, but it's also
Speaker 11: just the right thing to do. We should feed kids.
Speaker 4: Paid leave.
Speaker 1: Row the kind of stuff that is really the bare
Speaker 1: minimum in many countries. But Republicans are fighting against how
Speaker 1: do you guys do it well?
Speaker 11: For paid family and medical leave. When I was a
Speaker 11: new mom and had a baby, on my hip. I
Speaker 11: was one of the co founders of Minnesotan's for Paid
Speaker 11: Family and Medical Leave when I was leading Children's Defense Fund.
Speaker 11: My daughter was ten years old when we passed it,
Speaker 11: and so it takes a little while, but I think
Speaker 11: like that is also the story here. You get what
Speaker 11: you organize for, and in some instances it was over
Speaker 11: twenty years. So we kept working together with faith, labor, nonprofits,
Speaker 11: and we had in a that was about caring for
Speaker 11: each other. And I think as Minnesotan's that's exactly who
Speaker 11: we are. So once we had a trifecta, we ran
Speaker 11: as hard and as fast as we could.
Speaker 4: You will be the.
Speaker 1: First Indigenous woman governor.
Speaker 4: What does that mean?
Speaker 11: Well, as the highest ranking Native woman in executive office
Speaker 11: right now, I can tell you representation matters. And when
Speaker 11: I think about my daughter, her reality is completely different
Speaker 11: from how I grew up. I had Geraldine Ferraro when
Speaker 11: I was growing up, right, it was very powerful. But
Speaker 11: she has Auntie deb who's the Secretary of the Interior,
Speaker 11: Auntie Cherisse who is in Congress, and her mom is
Speaker 11: the Lieutenant governor, and so it's a real opportunity for
Speaker 11: her to dream and so many other young people to
Speaker 11: dream and if I am not the first Indigenous woman
Speaker 11: a governor in this country, shortly we will see her
Speaker 11: and we will know her. But we got a lot
Speaker 11: of work to do.
Speaker 1: This country has been so deeply shitty to Indigenous people. People,
Speaker 1: How do you make it make sense now that you
Speaker 1: are in leadership here?
Speaker 11: Native people have always been here, We are here and
Speaker 11: we will be here into the future. Governor Walls and
Speaker 11: I have made strengthening tribal state relations a top priority
Speaker 11: and we have delivered, and I am so proud of
Speaker 11: that work. I think we are a resilient people. We've
Speaker 11: got a really good sense of humor, which I think
Speaker 11: is why we have survived this long. But the biggest thing,
Speaker 11: I think is for folks to know we are a
Speaker 11: contemporary people. We are not stuck in the past. And
Speaker 11: we are congresswomen and Secretaries of the Interior and lieutonic
Speaker 11: governors and teachers, and we have a lot of healing
Speaker 11: to do. But this work, this policy work, is part
Speaker 11: of that healing.
Speaker 1: One of the things that happened in the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: election was that Indigenous people came out. Native people came
Speaker 1: out for Democrats, they organized, they really did deliver. Do
Speaker 1: you think that can happen again? Absolutely, and I'm watching
Speaker 1: it happen. Native voter are strategically located in swing states
Speaker 1: across the country. We are organized.
Speaker 11: I see so much work that's happening in a partisan
Speaker 11: campaign way, but also nonprofit C three's who are making
Speaker 11: sure that Native people are seen and heard and valued
Speaker 11: and their votes are counted. The Biden Harris administration has
Speaker 11: been the best administration ever for Native people. The work
Speaker 11: that Governor Wallas has done in Minnesota to strengthen tribal
Speaker 11: state relations, honoring tribal sovereignty. The Harris Walls administration will
Speaker 11: absolutely be the best administration for Indian country and our
Speaker 11: country's history. And I think that Native folks across the
Speaker 11: country know that Tim Walls is one heck of a
Speaker 11: surrogate for Native communities. And to hear Kamala Harris say
Speaker 11: that she will protect treaty rights and tribal sovereignty and
Speaker 11: wants every Native child to have an opportunity. We have
Speaker 11: never heard language like that before. It is powerful and
Speaker 11: it is motivating people.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry that you've never heard language like that. Good
Speaker 4: little bye, little thank you.
Speaker 1: Money, but it's twenty twenty four that is fucked up.
Speaker 1: As a white Jewish girl from Manhattan, that is fucked up.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Thank thank you, thank you for going on.
Speaker 4: Thanks so much.
Speaker 2: Congressman Robert Garcia represents California's forty second district.
Speaker 12: Molly John Fast Fast Politics. We just went through the line.
Speaker 1: I have my text message buddy, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: Democratic rising stars, or maybe he's already a star. Congressman
Speaker 1: Robert Garcia, Hey, everyone, and.
Speaker 13: It's good to be here. I love the convention.
Speaker 7: So on.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question, but it's so
Speaker 1: stupid that I can't even say it.
Speaker 12: What do you think the vibe here is?
Speaker 7: Vibes are immaculate, The vibes are evacuate.
Speaker 12: Tell us why the vibes are immaculate?
Speaker 13: Well, I mean, look, I think people here are unified
Speaker 13: behind this incredible candidate. Kamala Harris is just exactly what
Speaker 13: this country needs at this moment. We have the most vile, horrific, shameless,
Speaker 13: criminal con man running for president, and yeah, you have
Speaker 13: on the other side of that, this incredible, brilliant prosecutor,
Speaker 13: who's tough, who's smart, who knows how to basically, you know,
Speaker 13: put the case and make the case against him. And
Speaker 13: I think people feel really really good about that. And
Speaker 13: it's a historic candidacy. So I think people are excited.
Speaker 12: What role does Tim Walls play?
Speaker 13: My god, I mean, I don't even know where to start,
Speaker 13: because he is Tim talks. He's amazing a Keith America's dad.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Oh, it's like I was. There's a lot of us
Speaker 13: that were like, cope being that can. I think that
Speaker 13: he just electrifies I think the base, he electrifies progressives,
Speaker 13: he electrifies world voters, he electrifies white dudes, you know,
Speaker 13: he electrifies everyone. And so it's just like this guy
Speaker 13: can do no wrong. I think she made the absolute
Speaker 13: perfect selection and it was the right pick for her
Speaker 13: to the right pick for the country.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I definitely think that's right.
Speaker 14: I'm curious for you, what speech should we be watching
Speaker 14: have for that maybe isn't necessarily on our radar.
Speaker 12: Who are you excited to hear tonight? What's your thinking?
Speaker 13: I mean, look, I think what's interesting about tonight is
Speaker 13: we actually haven't we haven't heard from Michelle Obama.
Speaker 7: In a while.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, And I think.
Speaker 13: That's really really interesting. I mean, obviously, anytime that that
Speaker 13: President Obama or you know, Doug m Host, you know,
Speaker 13: speak is important. But we haven't heard from Michelle Obama
Speaker 13: in a while. And I think that she has seen
Speaker 13: the world change, she has seen I think politics change.
Speaker 13: I think that that's going to be a surprise hit tonight.
Speaker 12: Yeah. Well that's a really good, really really good point.
Speaker 12: I want you to tell me just California Long Beach,
Speaker 12: what are you seeing on the ground in your district.
Speaker 12: What is the legislation that could fix it?
Speaker 13: Well, I think the one thing that furthernhis has talked
Speaker 13: about right now is about housing. Right in California and
Speaker 13: in places like New York, Texas, big states especially, housing
Speaker 13: is a huge issue. It is the issue. There is
Speaker 13: no bigger issue right now than housing, the cost, accessibility
Speaker 13: to housing, people that are in the house, that need
Speaker 13: access to housing. So this plan of building four million homes,
Speaker 13: first time home buyers, tax credits, building affordable housing is
Speaker 13: exactly especially what first time home buyers, younger people, young
Speaker 13: professionals that they want to hear. And so I think
Speaker 13: that I think she can really be kind of the
Speaker 13: housing president. And I'm I'm excited about that.
Speaker 14: The road to Democrats flipping the House runs through New
Speaker 14: York State and California. Tell us what California is doing
Speaker 14: there and what your seats are that are up, because
Speaker 14: people listeners podcasts are big activistic.
Speaker 13: I mean California, New York like really fucked, like I'm
Speaker 13: a wife, especially New York. I mean, you're saying massive,
Speaker 13: fucking lusterfuck And the amount of resources that got diverted
Speaker 13: from these congressional seats is truly ya same and it's insanity. Yes, However,
Speaker 13: we now California also, so now we have an opportunity
Speaker 13: to make this right and fix this. And we if
Speaker 13: we win two or three seats in New York two
Speaker 13: or three seats in California, I think we're going to
Speaker 13: be okay. But we got to win those sets eats
Speaker 13: in California and California. We've got to win Adam Gray
Speaker 13: in the North. It's going to be John Duarte, that
Speaker 13: was the closest seat in the country that we didn't win.
Speaker 13: You gotta win George Whiteside against Mike Garcia La County.
Speaker 13: We got to win Rudy Sallas in the Central Valley
Speaker 13: against David Valadale, for those three seats we have to
Speaker 13: win because they're Biden seats right right. Beyond that, we've
Speaker 13: got other great candidates, Will Rowland, We've got Therrik Trim,
Speaker 13: frequent flyer on this pod.
Speaker 7: You love those guys.
Speaker 12: My dad lives in Palm Spread so amazing too.
Speaker 13: Yeah, those are tougher seats, but we have exceptional candidates,
Speaker 13: which is why do we got to shoon those seats?
Speaker 4: But three seats?
Speaker 12: Yeah bye, you know.
Speaker 13: And then we've got the seats in New York. I mean,
Speaker 13: Laura Gillian's got to win her seat. We've got mon
Speaker 13: Dear Joe's got to take Michael all around. So these
Speaker 13: are these are seats that we have a real opportunity,
Speaker 13: you know.
Speaker 7: To win.
Speaker 12: Thank you, Representative, Thank you.
Speaker 2: Alexis McGill Johnson is the president and CEO of Planned Parenthood.
Speaker 8: Molly john Fast for Fast Politics, and we have Alexis
Speaker 8: Miguil Johnson, the President of Land, Aaron hud An icon
Speaker 8: and also super important in this moment in American life.
Speaker 12: Tell me you're here, What is your feeling? What are
Speaker 12: you doing here? What is the fight?
Speaker 15: I'm here to fight for reproductive breedom. I'm here to
Speaker 15: fight for our democracy. And you know, everything that I
Speaker 15: see in this moment, the way in which the party
Speaker 15: is demonstrating who they help, I know, I love you
Speaker 15: that just a moment, just a moment. It's a moment just.
Speaker 12: Black women are getting the job done.
Speaker 15: We are getting fun, and we're doing so flashly and
Speaker 15: I love it. And you know what was actually amazing
Speaker 15: and flawless last night was listening to the three abortion storytellers.
Speaker 12: Yes, we have never seen.
Speaker 15: That on a stage, on any stage, but even not
Speaker 15: the Democratic National Convention. It was eight years ago when
Speaker 15: Cecile Richards for the first time said the word abortion
Speaker 15: on a Democratic National Convention Committee stage.
Speaker 12: And to be here in.
Speaker 15: This moment and to witness those three incredibly powerful stories, Yeah,
Speaker 15: to help make meaning of what these bands are. We
Speaker 15: could talk about twenty two states, I could tell you, you know,
Speaker 15: more than half of black women are being impacted these
Speaker 15: but it really comes down to the storytelling.
Speaker 7: And I think they really.
Speaker 12: Nailed up when we talk about their coming for abortion.
Speaker 1: This is embryonic personhood taught to us about the larger
Speaker 1: what that.
Speaker 12: Means in the landscape.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think you can see the seeds of this
Speaker 15: happening through a number of poor cases, is the way
Speaker 15: in which the Supreme coort, in rejecting a couple of
Speaker 15: decisions or sending a couple of decisions back down. Over
Speaker 15: this past term, have been trying to create some of
Speaker 15: the seeds of talking about personhood and what that would mean.
Speaker 4: Right, there were.
Speaker 15: Constitutional protections for non on people. The amount of control
Speaker 15: that that could have over women's lives. Yeah, right, And
Speaker 15: I think we've always been clear that abortion bands were
Speaker 15: never about stopping abortion.
Speaker 12: They were never about healthcare. They were never about.
Speaker 15: Protecting and saving lives of people who were being impacted.
Speaker 15: They've always been about powered and control and everything that
Speaker 15: they can do to find a way to come, for
Speaker 15: contraception to come, for IBM to come, for no fault,
Speaker 15: to be ways to keep us bound in whatever way
Speaker 15: is essentially the essence and the value of what the
Speaker 15: oppositions are trying to do.
Speaker 1: So true, here we have now finally a candidate, an
Speaker 1: in repairent to the party, who really can speak on
Speaker 1: women's health in a very modern way.
Speaker 12: Tell me why that's important, you know, because we need.
Speaker 15: The language, right. I mean, culture always moves before policy.
Speaker 15: We know this, and here we are in a moment
Speaker 15: where culture is with us. Right, the majority of people
Speaker 15: have believed that, you know, we should have fundamental rights
Speaker 15: to control our own requituction healthcare, our own healthcare right,
Speaker 15: our own privacy related to healthcare. And yet like state
Speaker 15: after state, twenty two states have now put these atrocious
Speaker 15: fans on the books, and they are using some of
Speaker 15: these states to create laboratories to come for some of
Speaker 15: the other things that we have been talking about. Right,
Speaker 15: it's like Oklahoma, we're the right to travel across state line.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 15: They're starting with miners to like see how far then
Speaker 15: they can push the imagination and if they say, well,
Speaker 15: if it's not right for them, then why is it
Speaker 15: okay for you know, someone a little bit older. So
Speaker 15: they're pushing these boundaries to test and see what would
Speaker 15: land and stick. And so I think it's really important
Speaker 15: to have a vice president who has taken on the issue,
Speaker 15: not just from a policy standpoint, not just from understand
Speaker 15: the judiciary and you.
Speaker 12: Know, the legal framework for it, but someone who can actually.
Speaker 15: Give voice to the impact that's happening to so many
Speaker 15: patients and miners are cross Optygon that there's been a
Speaker 15: lot of really misogynistic language, childless cat ladies, post metopausal women.
Speaker 12: Where does this come from?
Speaker 15: I mean a very deep seating or I mean it
Speaker 15: is misogyny, right is. I think when we say it's
Speaker 15: about power control, it's like getting under that is. It
Speaker 15: is a fear of gender and racial.
Speaker 12: Progress, right right?
Speaker 15: And so I think we have to name the fact
Speaker 15: that the kind of pinterplay between misogyny and white supremacy
Speaker 15: and moment around reproductive rights and freedom, that that language
Speaker 15: is just trying to it's a distraction, right, So we'll
Speaker 15: go up and we'll kind of like crow about that
Speaker 15: while they're actually taking away our rights, right, you know,
Speaker 15: and you know, stopping us from you know, getting access
Speaker 15: to emergency care in Idaho, Like oh yeah, we're flying
Speaker 15: women out you know, my hairlifts. Yeah, you know, and
Speaker 15: they're like, oh yeah, but look at that Chaldvick Salad.
Speaker 1: One last question about m Dala, the Idaho case. The
Speaker 1: current administration has really worked hard to try and push
Speaker 1: against these rules and get women this life saving care.
Speaker 12: In the end, where are we with that?
Speaker 7: Look?
Speaker 15: I mean there's a pin court her two cases this title,
Speaker 15: one on me for pristone and one on the talent.
Speaker 15: And you know in both of those cases, you know,
Speaker 15: the the MIF for pristone case, there was not that
Speaker 15: they decided there was not standing.
Speaker 12: Right, which of course there wasn't at first.
Speaker 15: There was not standing, but they took the case up anyway,
Speaker 15: and the way they sent it back down was to
Speaker 15: kind of create a trail of Bencombs. Right, say, if
Speaker 15: you really wanted to try this case for others, you
Speaker 15: could do how you do it, same thing with them
Speaker 15: tall Right, if you really wanted to have a conversation
Speaker 15: around person, you really wanted to have a conversation around federalistm.
Speaker 12: Like, here are the ways in which we would design
Speaker 12: that for you.
Speaker 15: So you know, obviously states still have to provide the
Speaker 15: emergency care again, and that is the place where you know,
Speaker 15: we should still be very alarmed by what's happening stayed
Speaker 15: by state. But the ultimate end game is not the
Speaker 15: two cases that we're taking up, right, They're really about
Speaker 15: how to create the paths work and the framework to.
Speaker 12: Get to the world that they were imagining. Yeah, which
Speaker 12: is horrible Project twenty twenty five bringing all aun right.
Speaker 15: It is taking away multiple freedoms from communities and taking
Speaker 15: away the progress on doing the progress that we've made
Speaker 15: over the.
Speaker 12: Past so amazing. Thank you, Alexis.
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