WEBVTT - Best NFL Week 8 Bets + Favorite Props (Ep. 21)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there everyone, Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by bet MGM. I'm your host, Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Harris and you can find me on Twitter at Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Harris Ady. It is time to break down some of

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite and our least favorite bets for the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>at NFL Slate. With me to do it all is

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<v Speaker 1>Ian McMillan, a writer for oddshark dot Com. Ian runs

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<v Speaker 1>the gamut over there in terms of his coverage way

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<v Speaker 1>beyond just the NFL. You can find him on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>at Ian mac os. And I'm going to spell that

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<v Speaker 1>for you because you will never get it right. I

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<v Speaker 1>A I N m ac Os. He can explain that

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<v Speaker 1>if you'd like. Ian, Thank you for joining me today.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going well, Dan, Yeah, happy to be here, Happy

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<v Speaker 2>to be back. I believe is week one there the

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<v Speaker 2>first time I was on, Hopefully it can do a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit better. I think I was one for two

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<v Speaker 2>with my side bets there that week. So but do

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<v Speaker 2>you go. I'm gonna go perfect sweet sweep this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I can almost guarantee it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the confidence and we really need it because

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<v Speaker 1>last week was a complete disaster for us. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I missed. I'm just gonna put it out

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<v Speaker 1>there because sometimes I sweep. Sometimes it's great. Last week

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<v Speaker 1>was terrible for me. I missed on all three of

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<v Speaker 1>my picks, with the Bears and Saints under thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>and a half, the forty nine ers laying nine to

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<v Speaker 1>the Redskins of Lough to be fair that pushed, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills and the Dolphins under forty and a half. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I did hit on the top prop, which was Leonard

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<v Speaker 1>Fournette over one hundred and twenty four yards rushing at

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<v Speaker 1>plus two fifty, so hopefully that made up for a

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<v Speaker 1>bit our guest. Meanwhile, Matt Perrault was not much better.

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<v Speaker 1>He missed on both the Eagles plus two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half against the Cowboys and the Jets getting nine and

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<v Speaker 1>a half from the Patriots. He did hit in the

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<v Speaker 1>Colt Slang one to the Texans, and that was after

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<v Speaker 1>again a near perfect week the week before. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>just jump back on the horse and get this nonsense

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<v Speaker 1>straight out. It sounds like you're ready to go, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get right into it. Okay. As always, We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get started with pick six, where both Ian and

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<v Speaker 1>I are going to give three of our favorite bets

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<v Speaker 1>for this weekend, either against the spread or on the

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<v Speaker 1>over under. And as always, I'm gonna know that we're

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<v Speaker 1>recording this on Thursday night, so we will not be

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<v Speaker 1>making any picks on the Vikings Redskins game. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to see how I picked that game, you

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<v Speaker 1>can go to betting pros dot com. That's gonna show

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<v Speaker 1>you how I and every single betting expert who makes

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<v Speaker 1>picks on the site made their picks for that In

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<v Speaker 1>every game, we are also going to be using the

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<v Speaker 1>bettingpros dot Com consensus odds and making our picks. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are the aggregate odds that you're gonna find available in

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<v Speaker 1>the market, so they're constantly shifting depending on where things

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<v Speaker 1>are at the various sportsbooks. All right, Ian, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>start us off with's your first pick here?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, my first pick, my favorite pick for the week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take the Eagles plus one point five over

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<v Speaker 2>the Bills. So I believe actually mentioned this the first

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<v Speaker 2>time I was on right before a week one of

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<v Speaker 2>the seasons that Buffalo Bills were actually my pick for

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<v Speaker 2>being the most like the most surprising team this season,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've actually proven that they are, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>think they are being a little bit overvalued in the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think they're gonna make the playoffs. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be a wildcare team, but they're going up

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<v Speaker 2>against an Eagles team that's on the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>things where they're undervalued, especially after that ugly performance against

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys there on Sunday Night. We need to judge

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<v Speaker 2>teams based on talent, and you need to not let

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<v Speaker 2>recent games affect you. The weird thing about betting on

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL that not a lot of people really talk

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<v Speaker 2>about have mentioned is that the sample size is so small.

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<v Speaker 2>In like the MLB season, I would never place a

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<v Speaker 2>bet until at least ten to fifteen games into the season,

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<v Speaker 2>and the NFL we get sixteen games total before the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's a small sample size. So you can't let

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<v Speaker 2>recent games affect your bias. So that's what I'm doing here.

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<v Speaker 2>The Eagles are the more talented and skilled team over

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<v Speaker 2>the Bills in my opinion. Don't forget, they had a

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<v Speaker 2>road win against the Packers this season, so they do

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<v Speaker 2>know how to win on the road. So I like

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<v Speaker 2>the Eagles, especially as a slight underdog in the spot,

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<v Speaker 2>so give me them plus one point five in Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I'm gonna be honest, I consider taking this

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<v Speaker 1>game as well as always. You guys know, I have

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<v Speaker 1>our guest email me their picks shortly before we go on,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't steal anything from them. Accidentally, this one was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely under consideration for me. One of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuck out to me is that the one

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<v Speaker 1>and a half points spread, you know, given the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that I mean, I guess the Bills didn't look that

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<v Speaker 1>great this weekend against Miami, but you know, they certainly

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<v Speaker 1>did what they need to do, and the Eagles looked

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely horrendous right against Dallas. The line did not move.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually after something like that, like with the Jaguars and

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets, where the Jets immediately lost a point and

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<v Speaker 1>a half on the spread and where the Patriots moved

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<v Speaker 1>up about three points on the spread, you know, given

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<v Speaker 1>what the public's going to react to it, the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>and the Bills didn't move. They were at one and

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<v Speaker 1>a half before that game, they were at one and

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<v Speaker 1>a half after that game. So that is a sign

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<v Speaker 1>to me that in the end, you know, at least,

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<v Speaker 1>the odds makers are probably feeling relatively bullish on where

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<v Speaker 1>they mark the Eagles going in and when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the Bills, I too in the preseason. As I

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<v Speaker 1>remind Jason Logan whenever he comes back on this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>I like them over. I believe it was six and

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<v Speaker 1>a half wins. I felt pretty good about them especially,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was a lot of it because of their

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<v Speaker 1>schedule and when you look at who they've played. They've

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<v Speaker 1>played the Jets, they played the Giants, they've played the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>they've played the Dolphins. It's not exactly a murderer's role here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I am inclined to go with you. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>little glad that you took it so I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to because I feel just a little skittish. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>look like the Shan Jackson is coming back. The Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>just look like they are in disarray. But the big

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<v Speaker 1>thing about the Eagles, for me at least, was they

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<v Speaker 1>can really stop the run. Right, That's the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that they have been able to do well consistently this

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<v Speaker 1>whole season. They really struggle in the secondary, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly where Josh Allen and his you know wildly inaccurate.

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<v Speaker 1>Arm is really going to make his mark, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>certainly inclined to agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. Those are great points he made, and especially

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<v Speaker 2>with the strength of schedule. That was one thing I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't mention there is that the wins this season have

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<v Speaker 2>come against teams that are combined I believe six and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven if my math is right. So because of that,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're being a little bit overvalued. And like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, Eagles run defense is definitely their strength. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I mean I do get a little nervous betting

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<v Speaker 1>against teams in Buffalo. I mean it's not the weather

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<v Speaker 1>is in the factory yet, but I did go to

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<v Speaker 1>school there and they are insane because that's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>all they have there. But still I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on board. I'm glad I didn't have to take

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<v Speaker 1>it though, because I felt a little squishy about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll back you there. With the Eagles getting one

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<v Speaker 1>and a half for my first pick, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>take the Panthers getting six from the forty nine ers.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about this a bit with Alex kalo J

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<v Speaker 1>when we were talking when we were taking a look

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<v Speaker 1>at the opening lines on Monday, and six struck us

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<v Speaker 1>as a little bit too high. Now it ad dropping

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<v Speaker 1>to about five right about when we were about to record,

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<v Speaker 1>and for that I got a little iffy on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's back up to six and I feel pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good about it. The Panthers, to me, are just a

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<v Speaker 1>very very good football team. They've won four straight and

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<v Speaker 1>they're coming off a bye here, and I think with

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<v Speaker 1>this offense we kind of forgot how good it can

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<v Speaker 1>be when Norv Turner came on board. Remember there were

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<v Speaker 1>six and two last year before Cam Newton got hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was having a very solid year with an

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<v Speaker 1>excellent completion percentage before the injury. Then he just couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>throw to finish last year. He couldn't throw to start

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<v Speaker 1>this year. So obviously things look stagnant. But now you've

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<v Speaker 1>got Kyle Allen in there, and he's not a superstar

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<v Speaker 1>by any means, but he is a capable quarterback who

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<v Speaker 1>can move the ball complete shorter passes, and that's really

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<v Speaker 1>all they need with extra time to prepare coming off

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<v Speaker 1>the by the extra time also gets them healthier here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it sounds like Turner is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>back from his angle in on their offensive line, which

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<v Speaker 1>should be a boost. The secondary looks like they'll get

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<v Speaker 1>back Dwantae Jackson, and they've had a great pass defense

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<v Speaker 1>all year anyway. James Bradbrier has played extremely well. Ross

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<v Speaker 1>Cockrell has picked it up with late. So it used

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<v Speaker 1>to be like you couldn't you didn't want to pass

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<v Speaker 1>on them, you'd attack them on the ground. But they've

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<v Speaker 1>cleaned that up a little bit over recent weeks. They

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<v Speaker 1>were able to get pressure and I think in this

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<v Speaker 1>matchup particularly that's important because the forty nine ers are

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<v Speaker 1>pretty beat up on their offensive line. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the forty nine ers, who are of course

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<v Speaker 1>undefeated for the most part, they have not been great offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>especially lately. I mean, they've been winning with their defense.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to throw out last week because it was

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<v Speaker 1>in the monsoon against the Redskins. I'm fine with that,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't put up a ton of points the

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<v Speaker 1>week before that against the Rams. It's mostly just the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they've added Emmanuel Sanders. That's fine, but I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna play, but he's not gonna be able to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, play the whole game. He doesn't know the playbook,

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<v Speaker 1>yet they're down Deebo Samuel probably Marky's Goodwin is dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with the concussion. And you know, again they've been winning,

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<v Speaker 1>but that injury to Kylie Uscheck. When you look at

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<v Speaker 1>their running game, how they've been it has really impacted it.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that they're winning kind of masks all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though the volume is still there with their running backs.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Tevin Coleman in particular, is getting a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of carries. It's not a great yard per carry average.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not moving the ball all that well. In the end,

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<v Speaker 1>this just strikes me as a really really close game

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<v Speaker 1>with the Panthers coming off of bye. Again, if it

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<v Speaker 1>was four four and a half, which is where it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like it had been moving at the time that

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<v Speaker 1>we recorded on Monday, I was a little iffy on it.

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<v Speaker 1>But at six, I'm gonna take that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that pick a lot. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>forty nine ers week in and week out of just

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a huge believer in them. Like you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of mentioned, their offense is slowed down a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to me like every time they play a team,

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<v Speaker 2>that team doesn't play well. Now, is that because the

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<v Speaker 2>other team's not playing well or is that because their

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<v Speaker 2>defense is that good that it makes it seem like

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<v Speaker 2>the other team's not playing well. But I'm still on

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<v Speaker 2>that point where I'm just gonna I'm gonna bet against

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<v Speaker 2>the forty nine ers because I just don't think they

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<v Speaker 2>are as good as the record shows. So I like

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<v Speaker 2>that pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to take too much away from them

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<v Speaker 1>because I do like them, I really do. I do

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<v Speaker 1>think the used check injury really really hampers their running game.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, you know they have a good but their schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Bucks are certainly not impressive. The Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>are the Steelers. We're dealing with, you know, a rookie

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback with Mason Rudolff. The Browns are a disaster. The

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<v Speaker 1>Rams were missing Todd Gurley, I believe in that game,

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<v Speaker 1>and their offensive line is terrible. And then the Redskins,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not this murderers row that they've gone through

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit like we're talking about with the Bills.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, I'm willing to take the value here

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<v Speaker 1>because I've really much more been impressed with Carolina. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's move on to your second pick. What do you got.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So for my second pick, I'm gonna take a

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<v Speaker 2>total play. I'm gonna be taking the under forty one

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<v Speaker 2>in the Jets in Jaguars game. The first major point

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<v Speaker 2>that's the most obvious. The Jets are brutal on offense.

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<v Speaker 2>They are tied with the Dolphins for the lowest gording

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<v Speaker 2>team the league, only getting ten point five points per game. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I do recognize that Fulk was a quarterback there for

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<v Speaker 2>most of their games so far the season, but I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we just saw what happened with Sam Darnold there on

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<v Speaker 2>Monday night. He's seeing ghosts, So I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I mean he has to do something

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<v Speaker 1>with Ghostbusters for Halloween, right, I mean that that is

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<v Speaker 1>a guarantee. Right, he should go as the state pub

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<v Speaker 1>marshmallow Man or something like that. Just just mix it

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I feel like if you have she makes

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<v Speaker 2>like a self deprecating joke about it, then people will

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<v Speaker 2>stop kind of making fun of him for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to pass. I do want to point

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<v Speaker 1>out just because I'm a Jets fan and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got it. He actually gave a great press conference

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<v Speaker 1>today where he fully owned it. He totally took it,

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<v Speaker 1>so it makes me a little happy. Anyway, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, not even to get two sidetracked on it.

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<v Speaker 2>But really, I don't think it's that big of a

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<v Speaker 2>deal that he said it. He's going up against one

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<v Speaker 2>of the the best defense in the league on primetime football.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that kind of stuff just happens for a

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<v Speaker 2>young quarterback. But yeah, completely agree. So under forty one

0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.600
<v Speaker 2>with the Jets and Jaguars, Jets are only scoring ten

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<v Speaker 2>point five points per game, and if you've watched Jaguars games,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they're they're not too much better as far

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<v Speaker 2>as points per game. I think they're twentieth in the

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<v Speaker 2>league at twenty point six points per game. But they're

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<v Speaker 2>not really like this air raid offense. Gardner Minsho's like

0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.800
<v Speaker 2>he's a real game manager. They slow the game down.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been feeding Leonard Fournett quite a bit, which, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if they run the ball, that keeps the

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<v Speaker 2>clock moving. The quicker the clock moves, the less opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>there are for points scored, and that's when unders usually hit.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jaguars are eighth in time of possession as well,

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<v Speaker 2>so that kind of proves that fact, and between the

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<v Speaker 2>two teams for their average combined scores, that Jets are

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<v Speaker 2>averaging combined score in their games at thirty six point

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<v Speaker 2>five Jaguars at forty one point seventy one combined points

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<v Speaker 2>per game, So both teams would have to have an

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<v Speaker 2>above average mark compared to the rest of games this

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<v Speaker 2>season for that total to go over. So I like

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<v Speaker 2>the under forty one. There. I'm just kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>I like unders in general. I pretty rarely bet overs

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL, just because I think books kind of

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<v Speaker 2>entice it to take overs because they're funder to bet,

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<v Speaker 2>so I just kind of like to go in the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite side of that. I like taking under. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is my favorite underspot for the week with the Jet,

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<v Speaker 2>Jets and Jags.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is a great point that. I mean, lines

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<v Speaker 1>are designed because they know that the public loves overs.

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<v Speaker 1>Who wants to bet an under that's so boring that

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<v Speaker 1>you're rooting again to go right exactly. So I agree

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<v Speaker 1>generally speaking, I like to bet the under when I can.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you here. Also, I mean I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel overly strongly. I kind of like the Jets getting six,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not gonna that's not one of my picks

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. I do expect this to be

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<v Speaker 1>a relatively close scoring game. The Jets, look, I mean CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>Mosley may probably you know, reinjured his growing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he's gonna play here. But either way, even

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<v Speaker 1>without him, the Jets are pretty solid against the run.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one thing that they've been able to do

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<v Speaker 1>well this year on defense. And with that, you know,

0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.560
<v Speaker 1>the Jaguars they want to rely on Fournette, Minshew magic.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's fading a little bit. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a Djhark has been good. Dede Westbrooks ceiling was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of an injury. I think he's gonna play,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's not as if they have this

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<v Speaker 1>explosive passing game, which is really in the end where

0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.680
<v Speaker 1>you're able to attack the Jets. As for the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna look as inept offensively as they looked

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<v Speaker 1>against the Patriots. Hopefully, you know, the offensive line coach

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<v Speaker 1>is either fired or they understand that sometimes you have

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<v Speaker 1>to shift protection. I do expect a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a bounce back here, but again, you know they're in

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<v Speaker 1>Selmo they've got Robbie Anderson on the trade block already.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't expect this to be some sort of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>magical offensive game. The Jaguars are solid on defense as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so overall, I agree with you here. I like the

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<v Speaker 1>under end. It's not one of my picks, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you're thinking thinking about it, I will say that I

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<v Speaker 1>personally do like the Jets a little bit getting six.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that recency bias is something, especially with how

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<v Speaker 1>terrible they looked it was at four and a half

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<v Speaker 1>before the game. I think people, you know, the line

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<v Speaker 1>moves immediately after a game like that. But in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there is value with the Jets of six.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm with you so far together. Unfortunately, Look, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to, you know, make you feel bad, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was with Matt on all three of his picks

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<v Speaker 1>last week and he basically he whiffed, So it might

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<v Speaker 1>be the kiss of death for you here. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>So on to my next pick number two. I'm interested

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<v Speaker 1>to see what you think about this one, because I

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<v Speaker 1>could see you not being fond of this. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stick with the spreads here and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>take the Chiefs getting three and a half at home

0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.079
<v Speaker 1>against the Packers. This is another line that I liked

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday. It was at four, but as long as

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<v Speaker 1>it's above the key number of three, I'm still on

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<v Speaker 1>board with it. Now, the look aheadline before the Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>injury was Chiefs by four. So this has swung more

0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.840
<v Speaker 1>than a full touchdown and it's crossed two key numbers here, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it crossed from the Chiefs laying three to

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs getting three. The public is probably going to

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<v Speaker 1>go on the Packers here, which should immediately throw up

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<v Speaker 1>some warning signs. We all know about Andy Reid's success

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<v Speaker 1>off of buye. Now he doesn't actually have a buye here,

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<v Speaker 1>but he has the mini bye with the Thursday night game.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, forget about Patrick Mahomes practicing so far. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna play this week. He's definitely gonna be out

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<v Speaker 1>at least this week, probably next week two. But Matt Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's not in the same conversation as Mahomes,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong, But in terms of backup quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, and of course this comes from a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who was watching Luke Falk be the backup quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>for his team all season. Matt Moore is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the better backup quarterbacks in the league, and he's got

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<v Speaker 1>ten days of full practice with the first team of offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes is taking second team reps. They're still Tyreek Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>there's still Travis Kelcey. It sounds like Sammy Watkins is

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<v Speaker 1>going to come back. The Chiefs are at home, They're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to get a little bit healthier. And really, when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at it, the Chiefs gave a pretty dominant

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<v Speaker 1>defensive performance against the Broncos on Thursday night, So you

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<v Speaker 1>might want to, you know, write that off and say, well,

0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:56.120
<v Speaker 1>the Broncos stink, But really, no other defense had shut

0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.760
<v Speaker 1>them down like that, particularly not in Denver, and particularly

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<v Speaker 1>not on a short week. And you look at why

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<v Speaker 1>the Broncos drove right down the field right on that

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<v Speaker 1>first drive they scored. They were shut down the entire

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the game. And why is that? It looked,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was watching that closely, it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs just got a little more aggressive. They started

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<v Speaker 1>calling more blitzes, probably because they don't usually play as

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<v Speaker 1>aggressively when they have Mahomes in there, because so long

0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:21.680
<v Speaker 1>as they can just kind of hang around in there.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got enough offense to win the game. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know the blitzing. When they got more aggressive here because

0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:27.640
<v Speaker 1>they needed to, because they figured it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be closer, it really worked for them, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>they'll at least continue with a more aggressive approach, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with Chris Johnes practicing and looking likely to return. On

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<v Speaker 1>the other side, the Packers are great, okay, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>still going to be down Devonte Adams. I'm sure I

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<v Speaker 1>know right now he's you know, fifty to fifty or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they're calling him. I highly doubt he's going to play.

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<v Speaker 1>And this game against the Raiders, you know, a team

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<v Speaker 1>with no defense whatsoever, was really the first time that

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<v Speaker 1>they looked dominant offensively. And then you know, the receivers

0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:56.040
<v Speaker 1>were barely involved last week, Like NBS caught two long

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<v Speaker 1>passes and that's it. It was mostly these passes to

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<v Speaker 1>the running backs. Defense they're slipping a little bit. You

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<v Speaker 1>can beat them on the ground, you've always been able

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<v Speaker 1>to this year, but they're starting to be a little

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerable a bit in the passing game. You saw that

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<v Speaker 1>with Oakland, who could have put up a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>points had car not funneled through the end zone and

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<v Speaker 1>had they not turned the ball over another time deep

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<v Speaker 1>in the red zone. So for me, with Andy Reid

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<v Speaker 1>having extra time to prepare, even with the backup quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>at home, anything above three here I'm more than happy

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<v Speaker 1>to take. So I will take it at three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I actually surprisingly do kind of like that pick,

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<v Speaker 2>even though the public is actually all over at Green

0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Bay in this game. I'm not too sure what the

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<v Speaker 2>consensus of it. I don't have in front of me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do know that the Packers, like are a

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<v Speaker 2>very public team this week, and when I first looked

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<v Speaker 2>at the board, since them homes injury, I do actually

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<v Speaker 2>lean the Chiefs getting points in that game, especially because

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<v Speaker 2>it's at home. And I mean, like you said, Matt Moore,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not a terrible backup quarterback, and he didn't he

0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:52.800
<v Speaker 2>didn't look so bad in that Broncos game when he

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<v Speaker 2>just got thrown in there, whenever it was first quarter,

0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.160
<v Speaker 2>second quarter, halfway through the game, whatever it was. And

0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:00.600
<v Speaker 2>like you said, a little bit of half a bye

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<v Speaker 2>week almost from Thursday night over to now, so he's

0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna have time to prepare. Andy Reid's good coaching in

0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.199
<v Speaker 2>that situation. I like that, Dick. I don't hate it.

0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna play it myself, but I don't hate it.

0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.840
<v Speaker 2>If I had to make a play on that game,

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably the way I'd go, at least for a side.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're gonna get to the player props here in

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, and that's kind of where my play

0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.240
<v Speaker 2>for that game is gonna be at. But I don't

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<v Speaker 2>hate the Chiefs.

0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:23.639
<v Speaker 1>And that gay sure, I look, I will take I

0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.840
<v Speaker 1>don't hate it for sure, anybody. And you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned how the consensus broke down right now, it's about

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<v Speaker 1>sixty to forty taking the packers over here and the

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<v Speaker 1>most accurate Now, because that's one of the other things

0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:36.879
<v Speaker 1>that we do at betting pros Com. We show you

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<v Speaker 1>how the consensus is going in terms of percentages, but

0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.520
<v Speaker 1>then we also give you a separate percentages based on

0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.280
<v Speaker 1>how the most accurate experts are leaning. And it is

0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.120
<v Speaker 1>fifty to fifty completely dead. And again so it had

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<v Speaker 1>moved to four, it's down to three and a half

0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.080
<v Speaker 1>because I think people are coming in strong here at least,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, probably more of the money. As I'm looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the breakdown, I mean the public. You're right, they're

0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:59.399
<v Speaker 1>always going to be on the Packers. But again, you

0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.000
<v Speaker 1>know the book, My know that, and I think they

0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.600
<v Speaker 1>set the odds appropriately understanding that a lot of the

0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.720
<v Speaker 1>public is going to like the Packers at the number.

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<v Speaker 1>So I will take I don't hate it, and why

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<v Speaker 1>don't we move on to number three for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Perfect? So my third pick, I'm gonna take the

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<v Speaker 2>Broncos plus five point five versus the Colts, which is

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<v Speaker 2>actually going against the public as well. I believe the

0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.679
<v Speaker 2>Colts are a pretty public pick. The Colts are a

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<v Speaker 2>team that I think is actually a little bit overvalued.

0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.359
<v Speaker 2>This is kind of similar to my pick against the Bills.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Colts are being a little bit overvalued.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's one stat that I absolutely love. Actually, everyone

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<v Speaker 2>at odd Shark loves it. One of my co workers,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Osbourne, has an article all about this stat, so

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<v Speaker 2>head over the website check that out if you want.

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<v Speaker 2>But the stat is net yards per play. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know what net yards per play, you take

0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:45.720
<v Speaker 2>the number of yards gained on offense per play, subtract

0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.880
<v Speaker 2>the amounts of mount of yards given up per play

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<v Speaker 2>on defense. So when you look at these two teams

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<v Speaker 2>in that stat the Broncos around middle of the pack.

0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I think they're thirteen to fourteenth. Their net yards per

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<v Speaker 2>play is zero point one, so it is positive. But

0:18:56.720 --> 0:19:00.520
<v Speaker 2>the Colts, despite their record, they are fourth last in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL in net yards per play at minus point

0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.600
<v Speaker 2>nine yards per play. So that tells me that despite

0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:11.479
<v Speaker 2>their record, they're not quite playing the best football right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the reason why they're still winning well

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<v Speaker 2>giving up negative point nine yards per play is because

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<v Speaker 2>they aren't turning the ball over. I believe they only

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<v Speaker 2>have six turnovers this season, which is near the top

0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:22.879
<v Speaker 2>of the league in that category. But in this spot,

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<v Speaker 2>I think five and a half points is a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Broncos are a little bit better than

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<v Speaker 2>what people think, and I think the Colts are worse

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<v Speaker 2>than what people think based off what their record is

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<v Speaker 2>right now. So that's gonna be my third pick. I

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<v Speaker 2>like getting the points there with Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an interesting one. I'll be honest, I did

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<v Speaker 1>not have a feel for it whatsoever, And in fact,

0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.600
<v Speaker 1>you are you're going against the expert consensus. About two

0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.359
<v Speaker 1>thirds of them are going with Indianapolis here laying five

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. Does it worry you at all with

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<v Speaker 1>the trade of Emmanuel Sanders that the team is going

0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to kind of mail it in? I mean, is it

0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:54.920
<v Speaker 1>possible at this point the trade, the lines coming up?

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<v Speaker 1>It just I mean, it was such a deflating loss

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<v Speaker 1>to Kansas City after they had won two. Is there

0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.400
<v Speaker 1>any chance that they're just gonna come out there? You think?

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<v Speaker 1>And lannegg or do you not let that factor into

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<v Speaker 1>your thinking when you're making your picks.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't let that factor too much into my thinking.

0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:09.840
<v Speaker 2>There are in certain cases where I do. In this case,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I mean, at the end of the day,

0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:12.480
<v Speaker 2>we need to remember these guys are still playing for

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<v Speaker 2>their jobs and coaches are coaching, you know, for their jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter if they have a chance to make a

0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.240
<v Speaker 2>playoff runner or not this case, the Broncos clearly don't.

0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:21.840
<v Speaker 2>But at the end of the day, the players still

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<v Speaker 2>need to perform because there it's basically every single game

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<v Speaker 2>is basically a job interview for players and coaches. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't put a whole lot of value in that.

0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:30.040
<v Speaker 2>What I am a little bit worried about is now

0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:32.080
<v Speaker 2>teams are gonna be able to focus on Courtland Sutton

0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:35.000
<v Speaker 2>a little bit more now without without Xanders there, so

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<v Speaker 2>that does worry me a little bit, but regardless, I

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<v Speaker 2>still like the five and a half points.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'll move on to my third pick here,

0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:44.280
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna switch away from the spreads and go

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<v Speaker 1>to the over Unders, And as we both like usually

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<v Speaker 1>the Unders, I'm gonna go with the Bears and the

0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Chargers under forty. I feel like everything about this game

0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:55.480
<v Speaker 1>sets up pretty well for the Unders. The Bears offense

0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:59.520
<v Speaker 1>is terrible, okay, and they basically completely abandoned the run

0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:02.119
<v Speaker 1>against the Saints, even when the game was close to

0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Ricohon and David Montgomery got five rushing attempts total. And

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<v Speaker 1>I get that you don't attack the Saints on the ground,

0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:13.560
<v Speaker 1>of course, but five rushing attempts is preposterous. And Matt

0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Naggi has essentially admitted it. He got a lot of criticism.

0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:19.760
<v Speaker 1>He basically said he's not an idiot. He agrees he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to need to run run the ball more here,

0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.520
<v Speaker 1>and I think that he's going to And that means,

0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:26.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, you run the ball, as you mentioned with

0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the Jets and the Jaguars, you run the ball. The clock,

0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:31.800
<v Speaker 1>runs drives are longer. It sets up pretty well for

0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:34.400
<v Speaker 1>the under Meanwhile, the Charters are one of the slowest

0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.400
<v Speaker 1>teams in the league. They're notorious for taking as much

0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.080
<v Speaker 1>time off the play clock as possible. Their offense just

0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.600
<v Speaker 1>looks completely out of sorts. A lot of it is

0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:46.720
<v Speaker 1>because of their poorest offensive line that's not going well.

0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:50.439
<v Speaker 1>The Bears still have a relatively strong defense. They're easier

0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to run against right now without akeeum Hicks, of course,

0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:55.439
<v Speaker 1>but the Chargers have not been able to get their

0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:58.480
<v Speaker 1>run game going regardless, so I don't expect either team

0:21:58.520 --> 0:21:59.919
<v Speaker 1>to be able to put up a ton of points.

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<v Speaker 1>This strikes me. I mean, they're both desperate. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that has me at all worried. I feel

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:06.240
<v Speaker 1>like when teams are desperate, you never know what's going

0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:08.439
<v Speaker 1>to happen. They could get somehow creative, they could come

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<v Speaker 1>up with something crazy and start putting up some points.

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<v Speaker 1>But overall, this game, to me, I realized, forty is

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty low total. But I'm pretty much looking at

0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:18.680
<v Speaker 1>this as a game that has very little chance of

0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:20.560
<v Speaker 1>being a blowout. It's going to be close throughout, and

0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I think both teams are going to try to just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of win it towards the end of the game

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<v Speaker 1>without putting up a crazy amount of points. So give

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<v Speaker 1>me the Bears and the Chargers under forty.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny because when I was actually looking to make

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<v Speaker 2>my picks for the show to let you know who

0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:34.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be on, that was the other under

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<v Speaker 2>I was deciding between either that one and the Jets

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<v Speaker 2>and the Jags. I ended up going with the Jets

0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:40.600
<v Speaker 2>and the Jags, but that one was a close second.

0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:43.480
<v Speaker 2>So I love that underplay. Like you said, the Bears

0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:46.119
<v Speaker 2>offense absolutely stinks. I don't know what's going on with

0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:49.480
<v Speaker 2>the Chargers right now. After Week one, you may remember,

0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:52.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm a big Falcons fan. The Falcons are absolute trash

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<v Speaker 2>this year. After Week one, I said, I'm no longer

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<v Speaker 2>a Falcons fan. I decided to be a Chargers fan

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<v Speaker 2>for this season. And then the Chargers are basically just

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<v Speaker 2>the foul of the AFC.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, we we've got room over here on

0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the Jets bandwagon, because it sounds like that's kind of

0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:08.040
<v Speaker 1>where you're leaning over there, right, Just keep going to

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 1>The Dolphins are next. They yeah going to be great?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, exactly maze old cheer for the Redskins tonight. Yeah. So,

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:17.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean Chargers they're all out of sorts, Bears are

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 2>all out of sorts, are like that under.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I feel pretty good about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest, it's against the consensus. It's about sixty

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<v Speaker 1>forty in favor of the over there. But for me,

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<v Speaker 1>this is definitely one of the unders that I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be playing.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is pretty rare that you'll see consensus. Most

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:34.639
<v Speaker 2>public like consensus lean towards the under. Does happen, but

0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 2>most of the time, just because how we mentioned earlier,

0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:39.359
<v Speaker 2>public loves to bed overs because they're more fun. So no,

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 2>but these are the experts. Oh, the experts are saying that. Okay, yes,

0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:45.399
<v Speaker 2>the experts. I appreciate you trying to save me. It

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 2>is a little interesting. I'm surprised because this struck me.

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<v Speaker 2>This was not what I struggled with. It was the

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<v Speaker 2>first one that jumped out of me when I looked

0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 2>at over unders. I did you know, the Jags and

0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 2>the and the Jets were certainly under consideration, but this

0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 2>one jumped out of me. Now, look to be fair,

0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.600
<v Speaker 2>I took the under on the Bears Saints last week

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.440
<v Speaker 2>that was not close, although there was a lot of

0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 2>fluky sort of touchdowns in that one. You know, you

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:06.320
<v Speaker 2>had the kick return for the touch and everything like that.

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 2>So you know, in the end, I feel pretty comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>right now with us under So, you know, expert consensus whatever,

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm good with that. I'm willing to go against them

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<v Speaker 2>every once in a while. I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's recap here, and you like the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>and the Jaguars under forty one, the Eagles plus one

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<v Speaker 1>and a half against the Bills, and the Broncos getting

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<v Speaker 1>five and a half from the Colts. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>take the Bears and the Chargers under forty, the Panthers

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead and start us off.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to be avoiding the Cardinals and Saints game.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe the line is it Saints ten and a half?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, yes, it's I mean Drew Brees. It looks

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<v Speaker 2>like he's gonna play this week, and that just makes

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<v Speaker 2>me a little bit nervous because of that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>who knows how healthy he is. It's a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>confusing to me that he's even coming back this week,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think they're on by next week. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why you wouldn't just take the extra week of rest,

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<v Speaker 2>But when anytime a quarterback comes back, that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>messes with the flow of the offense. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>Saints were absolutely crushing it with Teddy Bridgewater, So who

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<v Speaker 2>knows how kind of their offense is gonna feel about

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<v Speaker 2>Drew Brees coming back, which is weird to say, considering

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<v Speaker 2>Drew Brees the first ballot Hall of Famer. But it

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<v Speaker 2>does just kind of mess with game plans, it messes

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<v Speaker 2>with flows. So the Saints make me a little bit nervous,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with the double digit spread there. And then on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of things, I don't understand Kyler Murray.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was gonna be a bust and I

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<v Speaker 2>still kind of think he is even when I watch

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<v Speaker 2>him play. He makes throws that I don't think are

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<v Speaker 2>the right throws to make. But he's won a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of games and he's actually looked all like. His stats

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<v Speaker 2>are looking all right, so it's hard for me to

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<v Speaker 2>completely fade him. Usually with rookie quarterbacks, it's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>bet on them because one game will look unreal, the

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<v Speaker 2>next game will look bad, and other NFL teams that

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<v Speaker 2>they're playing against they usually figure out rookie quarterbacks a

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<v Speaker 2>few games in the season, and if they can find

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<v Speaker 2>holes or ways to exploit that rookie quarterback, then they'll

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<v Speaker 2>take advantage of them. I don't know if there's one

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<v Speaker 2>there with Kyler Murray but him and it's the same

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 2>with the Giants who It's the reason why I'm staying

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 2>away from the Giants. With Daniel Jones back and then

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 2>rookie quarterbacks just make me a little bit nervous. I

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know what I'm gonna get from them, so game

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 2>to avoid. It's a trap for me. Is gonna be

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 2>the Cardinals and Saints game.

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like it. First of all, the spread is

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 1>just it's too much for me to feel comfortable with

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:00.080
<v Speaker 1>it no matter which way I go, because I do

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:01.959
<v Speaker 1>you think that the Saints win pretty italy. First of all,

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm putting it out there. I don't think Brees plays.

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I get that. Everything right now is pointing to the

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>fact that he's gonna play. But you know, in the end,

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>as you said, there's just no reason for it. They

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>should be able to win this game handily. Bridgewater has

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>played well. Why not give in the buy to make

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:16.680
<v Speaker 1>sure he's good. I think in the end that is

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.199
<v Speaker 1>what they're gonna do. But I agree with Murray. It's like,

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly what I'm gonna see With Murray.

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I like a lot of what I've seen of him,

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 1>but it's still very much of I like the way

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 1>he looks early when every play is scripted for him,

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and then when he goes off a little bit because

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 1>they've run out of like Okay, this is what you're

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna do for your first fifteen plays. It's a little

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>bit like, Okay, you're kind of all over the place.

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Some of it's good, some of it's not good. I

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>don't really know. The Saints have a very tough defense,

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>but when you're over ten on the line, it just,

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's something that makes me very uncomfortable. So

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>this is certainly a game I'm not gonna go near.

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>So I like it with you.

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I was just gonna say it is gonna

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 2>be a little bit interesting if Drew Brees is ruled out.

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm curious to see if that's gonna move the line

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 2>at all.

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>The problem is, I don't think he's going to be

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>ruled out until like game day. I think this is

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a thing where it's going to be like, oh,

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:02.120
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna make a call on game day, and then

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday morning, you're gonna hear that he's out. But yeah,

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it opened at eight and a half, so

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it moved because I don't think it

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 1>moved because of the money. I think it moved because

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>of the fact that they got word that Breeze might

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 1>be playing, and I think it's gonna go. So if

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>it comes out late, my guess is it's gonna drop

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>below ten. And in that case, you know, I could

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>probably lean towards the Saints once it got below the

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 1>key number of ten. But either way, it's just not

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>a game that I think I really want to go

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 1>against because I just don't have a good.

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Feel for it. If it gets back to eight and

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 2>a half, it might take the Saints, but still it's tough.

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. As for me, I'm gonna be avoiding

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the Titans laying two and a half to the Bucks. Now,

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna change this up next week. But legitimately, the

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Titans and the Bucks are two teams that I say

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>every week pretty much I cannot get a read on

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>no matter what I do, and this matchup is particularly

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>tough for me to read because both teams stop the

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>run really really well. So is Ryan Tannehill gonna be

0:29:55.320 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>able to involve his wide receivers this heavily. Again, is

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 1>James Winston gonna benefit from the I or is he

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna throw five picks?

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Again?

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>It's two teams that I don't understand on a good day,

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 1>and this matchup in particular brings in the variables the

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>passing games, which I'm just completely not comfortable with, especially

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>since I don't really know with what we saw with

0:30:13.760 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Tennehell looked, you know, much better in my opinion than

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Marriotta. But still, you know, I've seen enough of

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 1>him in his career to not think that he's a

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 1>savior or anything. So generally speaking, when the Titans and

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>the Bucks get involved, because the Bucks have basically I

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>picked the wrong version of the Bucks every single week.

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>Every single week, I think it's gonna be uh, Doctor Jekyl,

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 1>It's mister Hyde and vice versa. So for me, I'm

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>staying far away from any game pretty much at this

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>point involving either of these two teams. The fact that

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>they are playing each other makes it really easy for me.

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 1>So I'm avoiding the Titans laying two and a half

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>to the Bucks.

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with that, I mean both teams. It

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 2>seems like every week that you think they're gonna lose,

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 2>they come out and play really well and win. And

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 2>then every week you think that they're gonna win, they

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 2>come out and play the crap and lose.

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 1>So they both do they both do that exactly. So yeah,

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>it's tough, all right. So you're avoiding these Saints laying

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>ten and anl half to the Cardinals, and I am

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>avoiding the Titans laying two and a half to the Bucks.

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.200
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0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>it is time for Top Prop, where we list our

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>top player prop for the week.

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, So I'm gonna be looking at now. You

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 2>talked about this game earlier, the Packers Chiefs game. So

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 2>my player prop for that game, which I actually love,

0:31:34.920 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 2>is going to be Aaron Jones over seventy five rushing yards.

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 2>They go to the minus one twelve. So a couple

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 2>points here. The first thing is the Chiefs are tied

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 2>with the Browns for the second last in the league

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 2>and opponent yards per carry, so teams are getting five

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 2>yards per carry against them. And then even if Mahomes

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 2>is out, the game plan should be to keep the

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Chiefs off the field, because that's how we saw both

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 2>the Colts and the Texans ACXU beat the Chiefs was

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 2>to just completely keep the Chiefs explosive offense off the field.

0:32:03.960 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 2>So what does that That includes running the ball a lot.

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 2>So we can even prove that with numbers if we

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 2>look at Marlon max numbers when the Colts beat the Chiefs,

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.120
<v Speaker 2>he had twenty nine carries in that game, which is

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 2>his season high by pretty wide margin. Same goes for

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Carlos High to the Texans. He had a season high

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 2>twenty six carries for the Texans when they beat the Chiefs.

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 2>So the blueprint has been out on how to beat

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs. It's to run the ball keep their offense

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 2>off the field. So Aaron Jones, I think he's going

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 2>to get a lot of carries that over seventy five

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 2>yard mark. I think he's gonna be able to hit

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:33.959
<v Speaker 2>that with ease. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets over

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 2>one hundred yards, to be completely honest, especially with that

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 2>weak Chiefs run defense. So Aaron Jones over seventy five

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 2>rushing yards, Yeah, I like it.

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I said that the Chiefs defense looks to

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>be getting a little healthier and they look to be improving.

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 1>They were much better against the Broncos. Of course, you know,

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Philip Lindsay and Royce Freeman did very little on the

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>ground in that game. But before that, Yeah, that's right,

0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of the blueprint. Now, I don't necessarily

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>know if the team has to stick to that blueprint

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>right now, because the whole point of basically being like,

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>let's keep Patrick Mahomes off the field by running the

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 1>ball and controlling the clock is not really in play here.

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:07.479
<v Speaker 1>Considering More is going to be the starter almost certainly,

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 1>But I don't really think that that matters that much.

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, Rogers accounted for six touchdowns last week.

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>He threw five, I believe in ran in for one.

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>That's not what they want to do. I mean, that's

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>not the way the Packers really want to do this.

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>They have a very strong defense, which is getting a

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>little weaker as I mentioned. But again, Matt Moore is

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>not gonna light this up. I mean, they're gonna be

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>a play or two to Tyreek Hill where he's gonna

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>break one or something like that, but in the end,

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna put up a crazy amount of points.

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:31.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't think this is one where the Packers are

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna come out firing. I think they are gonna lean

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>on Jones and Williams to the extent. But I think,

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, as we have now seen some sanity restored,

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it's probably gonna be Jones leaving the way significantly over here.

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I don't hate that at all. Jones over

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>seventy five rushing yards'm minus one twelve in particular. I'm

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>good to go with that, I am. I'm gonna go

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>a little riskier, okay, I'm gonna go with Dante Johnson

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>to go over seventy five yards receiving at plus one

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.320
<v Speaker 1>point ninety. Now Johnson is two full games here with

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Mason Rudolf. He's got fifty two yards receiving against the

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 1>forty nine ers, seventy seven yards receiving against the Bengals,

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:09.959
<v Speaker 1>and now he gets the Dolphins. So I'm not gonna

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>lie to you, Ian. The Dolphins are bad. They allow

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>thirteen point six yards per catch, that is the most

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, and I get it. There's certainly a

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 1>risk here that the Steelers are just gonna run all day,

0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that it's just gonna be James Connor all day, or

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Benny Snell or whatever they want to do, because the

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins are probably not gonna be able to put up

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 1>a ton of points. Although to be fair, Ryan Fitzpatrick

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 1>made that offense look semi competent against a very tough

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Bills defense last weekend, so it's possible that the Dolphins

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>put up at least a few points here that make

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 1>the Steelers throw. But in the end, what I really

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>think it is is that I think the Steelers probably

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 1>want to use this game to get Rudolph a little

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 1>confidence as he returns back to the field from that

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 1>massive hit that gave him a concussion. So I think

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 1>this is exactly the spot to do it at pretty

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>much two for one for your money, given the connection

0:34:56.560 --> 0:35:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that Johnson has shown with Mason Rudolf, especially one of

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>those games was against the forty nine Ers, a very

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>tough defense I'm gonna take Johnson to go over seventy

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 1>five yards receiving at plus one ninety.

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's a sneaky little play. I actually

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 2>kind of liked that a lot. To be honest, I

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:12.440
<v Speaker 2>don't really have a whole lot of thoughts so that

0:35:12.480 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 2>the Dolphins are the Dolphins. We know we're gonna get

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 2>within the absolutely stink. So yeah, I love that play.

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Wow, thanks boy, you are so excited about it. It

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>makes me feel better than I don't hate it.

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Again, I mean it was kind of I was looking

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:27.640
<v Speaker 1>through the props and you know, sometimes I like to

0:35:27.680 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 1>go a little deeper, and this is one I think

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 1>people really, you know, nobody's gonna really be looking at

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:33.800
<v Speaker 1>playing at this one. But there does seem to be

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good connection between Rudolph and Johnson. So I

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 1>do think this is something where, you know, even though

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>they will run a lot, I think they're gonna want

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 1>to try to at least get Rudolph that comfortable, have

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 1>him make some more throws rather than the gimmicky offense

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>that we've kind of seen a little bit. Just to

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is like essentially the softest matchup that

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 1>you can have so I think they're gonna try to

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 1>take advantage of that as best they can. All right,

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>that is going to do it for today's show. Thanks

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 1>again for joining me.

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Ian.

0:35:57.520 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Can you remind everyone where they can find more of

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<v Speaker 1>you and your work?

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Absolutely, Please follow me on Twitter at Ian Macows.

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<v Speaker 2>As you mentioned the top of the show, my name

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.600
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0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 1>All right, great, thanks again for coming on, and I

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>hope we can do it at least once more before

0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the NFL season ends.

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely sounds good.

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