1 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Hey there everyone, Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL podcast, 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: brought to you by bet MGM. I'm your host, Dan 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Harris and you can find me on Twitter at Dan 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Harris Ady. It is time to break down some of 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: our favorite and our least favorite bets for the weekend 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: at NFL Slate. With me to do it all is 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Ian McMillan, a writer for oddshark dot Com. Ian runs 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: the gamut over there in terms of his coverage way 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: beyond just the NFL. You can find him on Twitter 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: at Ian mac os. And I'm going to spell that 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: for you because you will never get it right. I 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: A I N m ac Os. He can explain that 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: if you'd like. Ian, Thank you for joining me today. 14 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: How's it going. 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: It's going well, Dan, Yeah, happy to be here, Happy 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: to be back. I believe is week one there the 17 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: first time I was on, Hopefully it can do a 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: little bit better. I think I was one for two 19 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: with my side bets there that week. So but do 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: you go. I'm gonna go perfect sweet sweep this week. 21 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: I can almost guarantee it. 22 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: I love the confidence and we really need it because 23 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: last week was a complete disaster for us. I mean, 24 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: I mean I missed. I'm just gonna put it out 25 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: there because sometimes I sweep. Sometimes it's great. Last week 26 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: was terrible for me. I missed on all three of 27 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: my picks, with the Bears and Saints under thirty eight 28 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: and a half, the forty nine ers laying nine to 29 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: the Redskins of Lough to be fair that pushed, and 30 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: the Bills and the Dolphins under forty and a half. Now, 31 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: I did hit on the top prop, which was Leonard 32 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: Fournette over one hundred and twenty four yards rushing at 33 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: plus two fifty, so hopefully that made up for a 34 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: bit our guest. Meanwhile, Matt Perrault was not much better. 35 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: He missed on both the Eagles plus two and a 36 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: half against the Cowboys and the Jets getting nine and 37 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: a half from the Patriots. He did hit in the 38 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: Colt Slang one to the Texans, and that was after 39 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: again a near perfect week the week before. So let's 40 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: just jump back on the horse and get this nonsense 41 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: straight out. It sounds like you're ready to go, so 42 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna get right into it. Okay. As always, We're 43 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: gonna get started with pick six, where both Ian and 44 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: I are going to give three of our favorite bets 45 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: for this weekend, either against the spread or on the 46 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: over under. And as always, I'm gonna know that we're 47 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: recording this on Thursday night, so we will not be 48 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: making any picks on the Vikings Redskins game. But if 49 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: you want to see how I picked that game, you 50 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: can go to betting pros dot com. That's gonna show 51 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: you how I and every single betting expert who makes 52 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: picks on the site made their picks for that In 53 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: every game, we are also going to be using the 54 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: bettingpros dot Com consensus odds and making our picks. Those 55 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: are the aggregate odds that you're gonna find available in 56 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: the market, so they're constantly shifting depending on where things 57 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: are at the various sportsbooks. All right, Ian, let's go 58 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: start us off with's your first pick here? 59 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: Okay, my first pick, my favorite pick for the week. 60 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Eagles plus one point five over 61 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: the Bills. So I believe actually mentioned this the first 62 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: time I was on right before a week one of 63 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: the seasons that Buffalo Bills were actually my pick for 64 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: being the most like the most surprising team this season, 65 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: and they've actually proven that they are, but I do 66 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: think they are being a little bit overvalued in the spot. 67 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: I do think they're gonna make the playoffs. I think 68 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: they're gonna be a wildcare team, but they're going up 69 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: against an Eagles team that's on the other side of 70 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: things where they're undervalued, especially after that ugly performance against 71 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: the Cowboys there on Sunday Night. We need to judge 72 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: teams based on talent, and you need to not let 73 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: recent games affect you. The weird thing about betting on 74 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: the NFL that not a lot of people really talk 75 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: about have mentioned is that the sample size is so small. 76 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: In like the MLB season, I would never place a 77 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: bet until at least ten to fifteen games into the season, 78 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: and the NFL we get sixteen games total before the playoffs, 79 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: so it's a small sample size. So you can't let 80 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: recent games affect your bias. So that's what I'm doing here. 81 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: The Eagles are the more talented and skilled team over 82 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: the Bills in my opinion. Don't forget, they had a 83 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: road win against the Packers this season, so they do 84 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: know how to win on the road. So I like 85 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: the Eagles, especially as a slight underdog in the spot, 86 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: so give me them plus one point five in Buffalo. 87 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm gonna be honest, I consider taking this 88 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: game as well as always. You guys know, I have 89 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: our guest email me their picks shortly before we go on, 90 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: so don't steal anything from them. Accidentally, this one was 91 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: definitely under consideration for me. One of the things that 92 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: kind of stuck out to me is that the one 93 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: and a half points spread, you know, given the fact 94 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: that I mean, I guess the Bills didn't look that 95 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: great this weekend against Miami, but you know, they certainly 96 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: did what they need to do, and the Eagles looked 97 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: absolutely horrendous right against Dallas. The line did not move. 98 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: Usually after something like that, like with the Jaguars and 99 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: the Jets, where the Jets immediately lost a point and 100 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: a half on the spread and where the Patriots moved 101 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: up about three points on the spread, you know, given 102 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: what the public's going to react to it, the Eagles 103 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: and the Bills didn't move. They were at one and 104 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: a half before that game, they were at one and 105 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: a half after that game. So that is a sign 106 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: to me that in the end, you know, at least, 107 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: the odds makers are probably feeling relatively bullish on where 108 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: they mark the Eagles going in and when you look 109 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: at the Bills, I too in the preseason. As I 110 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: remind Jason Logan whenever he comes back on this podcast, 111 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: I like them over. I believe it was six and 112 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: a half wins. I felt pretty good about them especially, 113 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: but that was a lot of it because of their 114 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: schedule and when you look at who they've played. They've 115 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: played the Jets, they played the Giants, they've played the Bengals, 116 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: they've played the Dolphins. It's not exactly a murderer's role here. 117 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: So I am inclined to go with you. I'm a 118 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: little glad that you took it so I didn't have 119 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 1: to because I feel just a little skittish. It doesn't 120 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: look like the Shan Jackson is coming back. The Eagles 121 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: just look like they are in disarray. But the big 122 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: thing about the Eagles, for me at least, was they 123 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: can really stop the run. Right, That's the one thing 124 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: that they have been able to do well consistently this 125 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 1: whole season. They really struggle in the secondary, but that's 126 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: not exactly where Josh Allen and his you know wildly inaccurate. 127 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: Arm is really going to make his mark, So I'm 128 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: certainly inclined to agree with you. 129 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Those are great points he made, and especially 130 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: with the strength of schedule. That was one thing I 131 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: didn't mention there is that the wins this season have 132 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: come against teams that are combined I believe six and 133 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: twenty seven if my math is right. So because of that, 134 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: I think they're being a little bit overvalued. And like 135 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: you said, Eagles run defense is definitely their strength. Yeah. 136 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: Now, I mean I do get a little nervous betting 137 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: against teams in Buffalo. I mean it's not the weather 138 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: is in the factory yet, but I did go to 139 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: school there and they are insane because that's pretty much 140 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: all they have there. But still I agree with you. 141 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm on board. I'm glad I didn't have to take 142 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: it though, because I felt a little squishy about it. 143 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: But I'll back you there. With the Eagles getting one 144 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: and a half for my first pick, I'm going to 145 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: take the Panthers getting six from the forty nine ers. 146 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: I talked about this a bit with Alex kalo J 147 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: when we were talking when we were taking a look 148 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: at the opening lines on Monday, and six struck us 149 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: as a little bit too high. Now it ad dropping 150 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: to about five right about when we were about to record, 151 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: and for that I got a little iffy on it. 152 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: But it's back up to six and I feel pretty 153 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: good about it. The Panthers, to me, are just a 154 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: very very good football team. They've won four straight and 155 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: they're coming off a bye here, and I think with 156 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: this offense we kind of forgot how good it can 157 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: be when Norv Turner came on board. Remember there were 158 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: six and two last year before Cam Newton got hurt, 159 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: and he was having a very solid year with an 160 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: excellent completion percentage before the injury. Then he just couldn't 161 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: throw to finish last year. He couldn't throw to start 162 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: this year. So obviously things look stagnant. But now you've 163 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: got Kyle Allen in there, and he's not a superstar 164 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: by any means, but he is a capable quarterback who 165 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: can move the ball complete shorter passes, and that's really 166 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: all they need with extra time to prepare coming off 167 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: the by the extra time also gets them healthier here. 168 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like Turner is going to be 169 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: back from his angle in on their offensive line, which 170 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: should be a boost. The secondary looks like they'll get 171 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: back Dwantae Jackson, and they've had a great pass defense 172 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: all year anyway. James Bradbrier has played extremely well. Ross 173 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: Cockrell has picked it up with late. So it used 174 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: to be like you couldn't you didn't want to pass 175 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: on them, you'd attack them on the ground. But they've 176 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: cleaned that up a little bit over recent weeks. They 177 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: were able to get pressure and I think in this 178 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: matchup particularly that's important because the forty nine ers are 179 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: pretty beat up on their offensive line. And when you 180 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: look at the forty nine ers, who are of course 181 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: undefeated for the most part, they have not been great offensively, 182 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: especially lately. I mean, they've been winning with their defense. 183 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: You want to throw out last week because it was 184 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: in the monsoon against the Redskins. I'm fine with that, 185 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: but they didn't put up a ton of points the 186 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: week before that against the Rams. It's mostly just the defense. 187 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: Now they've added Emmanuel Sanders. That's fine, but I mean 188 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna play, but he's not gonna be able to, 189 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, play the whole game. He doesn't know the playbook, 190 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: yet they're down Deebo Samuel probably Marky's Goodwin is dealing 191 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: with the concussion. And you know, again they've been winning, 192 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: but that injury to Kylie Uscheck. When you look at 193 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: their running game, how they've been it has really impacted it. 194 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: The fact that they're winning kind of masks all that. 195 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: Even though the volume is still there with their running backs. 196 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Tevin Coleman in particular, is getting a lot 197 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: of carries. It's not a great yard per carry average. 198 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: They're not moving the ball all that well. In the end, 199 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: this just strikes me as a really really close game 200 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: with the Panthers coming off of bye. Again, if it 201 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: was four four and a half, which is where it 202 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: looked like it had been moving at the time that 203 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: we recorded on Monday, I was a little iffy on it. 204 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: But at six, I'm gonna take that. 205 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that pick a lot. I mean, the 206 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: forty nine ers week in and week out of just 207 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: I'm not a huge believer in them. Like you kind 208 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: of mentioned, their offense is slowed down a little bit. 209 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: It seems to me like every time they play a team, 210 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: that team doesn't play well. Now, is that because the 211 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: other team's not playing well or is that because their 212 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: defense is that good that it makes it seem like 213 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: the other team's not playing well. But I'm still on 214 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: that point where I'm just gonna I'm gonna bet against 215 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers because I just don't think they 216 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: are as good as the record shows. So I like 217 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: that pick. 218 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to take too much away from them 219 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: because I do like them, I really do. I do 220 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: think the used check injury really really hampers their running game. 221 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: And again, you know they have a good but their schedule, 222 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, the Bucks are certainly not impressive. The Bengals 223 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: are the Steelers. We're dealing with, you know, a rookie 224 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: quarterback with Mason Rudolff. The Browns are a disaster. The 225 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: Rams were missing Todd Gurley, I believe in that game, 226 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: and their offensive line is terrible. And then the Redskins, 227 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: so it's not this murderers row that they've gone through 228 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: a little bit like we're talking about with the Bills. 229 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: So for me, I'm willing to take the value here 230 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: because I've really much more been impressed with Carolina. All right, 231 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: let's move on to your second pick. What do you got. 232 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 2: Okay, So for my second pick, I'm gonna take a 233 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: total play. I'm gonna be taking the under forty one 234 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: in the Jets in Jaguars game. The first major point 235 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 2: that's the most obvious. The Jets are brutal on offense. 236 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: They are tied with the Dolphins for the lowest gording 237 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: team the league, only getting ten point five points per game. Now, 238 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: I do recognize that Fulk was a quarterback there for 239 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 2: most of their games so far the season, but I mean, 240 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 2: we just saw what happened with Sam Darnold there on 241 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: Monday night. He's seeing ghosts, So I don't. 242 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: By the way, I mean he has to do something 243 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: with Ghostbusters for Halloween, right, I mean that that is 244 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: a guarantee. Right, he should go as the state pub 245 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: marshmallow Man or something like that. Just just mix it 246 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: up a little bit. 247 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I feel like if you have she makes 248 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: like a self deprecating joke about it, then people will 249 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 2: stop kind of making fun of him for it. 250 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: I do want to pass. I do want to point 251 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: out just because I'm a Jets fan and you know, 252 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: I've got it. He actually gave a great press conference 253 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: today where he fully owned it. He totally took it, 254 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: so it makes me a little happy. Anyway, go ahead, 255 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, keep going. 256 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, not even to get two sidetracked on it. 257 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: But really, I don't think it's that big of a 258 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: deal that he said it. He's going up against one 259 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: of the the best defense in the league on primetime football. 260 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: I mean, that kind of stuff just happens for a 261 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: young quarterback. But yeah, completely agree. So under forty one 262 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: with the Jets and Jaguars, Jets are only scoring ten 263 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 2: point five points per game, and if you've watched Jaguars games, 264 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: I mean they're they're not too much better as far 265 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 2: as points per game. I think they're twentieth in the 266 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: league at twenty point six points per game. But they're 267 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: not really like this air raid offense. Gardner Minsho's like 268 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: he's a real game manager. They slow the game down. 269 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: They've been feeding Leonard Fournett quite a bit, which, of course, 270 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: you know, if they run the ball, that keeps the 271 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: clock moving. The quicker the clock moves, the less opportunity 272 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 2: there are for points scored, and that's when unders usually hit. 273 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: And Jaguars are eighth in time of possession as well, 274 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 2: so that kind of proves that fact, and between the 275 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 2: two teams for their average combined scores, that Jets are 276 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: averaging combined score in their games at thirty six point 277 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: five Jaguars at forty one point seventy one combined points 278 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 2: per game, So both teams would have to have an 279 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: above average mark compared to the rest of games this 280 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: season for that total to go over. So I like 281 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: the under forty one. There. I'm just kind of a 282 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: I like unders in general. I pretty rarely bet overs 283 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: in the NFL, just because I think books kind of 284 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: entice it to take overs because they're funder to bet, 285 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 2: so I just kind of like to go in the 286 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: opposite side of that. I like taking under. So this 287 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: is my favorite underspot for the week with the Jet, 288 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: Jets and Jags. 289 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a great point that. I mean, lines 290 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: are designed because they know that the public loves overs. 291 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: Who wants to bet an under that's so boring that 292 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: you're rooting again to go right exactly. So I agree 293 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: generally speaking, I like to bet the under when I can. 294 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: I agree with you here. Also, I mean I don't 295 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: feel overly strongly. I kind of like the Jets getting six, 296 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna that's not one of my picks 297 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: or anything like that. I do expect this to be 298 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: a relatively close scoring game. The Jets, look, I mean CJ. 299 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: Mosley may probably you know, reinjured his growing. I don't 300 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: know if he's gonna play here. But either way, even 301 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: without him, the Jets are pretty solid against the run. 302 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: That's the one thing that they've been able to do 303 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: well this year on defense. And with that, you know, 304 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: the Jaguars they want to rely on Fournette, Minshew magic. 305 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's fading a little bit. I mean, you know, 306 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: a Djhark has been good. Dede Westbrooks ceiling was a 307 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: little bit of an injury. I think he's gonna play, 308 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: But you know, it's not as if they have this 309 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: explosive passing game, which is really in the end where 310 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: you're able to attack the Jets. As for the Jets, 311 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: they're not gonna look as inept offensively as they looked 312 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: against the Patriots. Hopefully, you know, the offensive line coach 313 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: is either fired or they understand that sometimes you have 314 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: to shift protection. I do expect a little bit of 315 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: a bounce back here, but again, you know they're in 316 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: Selmo they've got Robbie Anderson on the trade block already. 317 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't expect this to be some sort of, you know, 318 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: magical offensive game. The Jaguars are solid on defense as well, 319 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: so overall, I agree with you here. I like the 320 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: under end. It's not one of my picks, but if 321 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: you're thinking thinking about it, I will say that I 322 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: personally do like the Jets a little bit getting six. 323 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: I think that recency bias is something, especially with how 324 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: terrible they looked it was at four and a half 325 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: before the game. I think people, you know, the line 326 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: moves immediately after a game like that. But in the end, 327 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 1: I think there is value with the Jets of six. 328 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: But I'm with you so far together. Unfortunately, Look, I 329 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, make you feel bad, but 330 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: I was with Matt on all three of his picks 331 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: last week and he basically he whiffed, So it might 332 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: be the kiss of death for you here. All right, 333 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: So on to my next pick number two. I'm interested 334 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: to see what you think about this one, because I 335 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: could see you not being fond of this. But I'm 336 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: gonna stick with the spreads here and I'm going to 337 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: take the Chiefs getting three and a half at home 338 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: against the Packers. This is another line that I liked 339 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: on Monday. It was at four, but as long as 340 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: it's above the key number of three, I'm still on 341 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: board with it. Now, the look aheadline before the Mahomes 342 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: injury was Chiefs by four. So this has swung more 343 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: than a full touchdown and it's crossed two key numbers here, right, 344 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: I mean it crossed from the Chiefs laying three to 345 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: the Chiefs getting three. The public is probably going to 346 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: go on the Packers here, which should immediately throw up 347 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: some warning signs. We all know about Andy Reid's success 348 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: off of buye. Now he doesn't actually have a buye here, 349 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: but he has the mini bye with the Thursday night game. 350 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: And look, forget about Patrick Mahomes practicing so far. He's 351 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: not gonna play this week. He's definitely gonna be out 352 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: at least this week, probably next week two. But Matt Moore, 353 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not in the same conversation as Mahomes, 354 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, But in terms of backup quarterbacks 355 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: in the league, and of course this comes from a 356 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: guy who was watching Luke Falk be the backup quarterback 357 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: for his team all season. Matt Moore is one of 358 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: the better backup quarterbacks in the league, and he's got 359 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: ten days of full practice with the first team of offense. 360 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: Mahomes is taking second team reps. They're still Tyreek Hill, 361 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: there's still Travis Kelcey. It sounds like Sammy Watkins is 362 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: going to come back. The Chiefs are at home, They're 363 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: starting to get a little bit healthier. And really, when 364 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: you look at it, the Chiefs gave a pretty dominant 365 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: defensive performance against the Broncos on Thursday night, So you 366 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: might want to, you know, write that off and say, well, 367 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: the Broncos stink, But really, no other defense had shut 368 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: them down like that, particularly not in Denver, and particularly 369 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: not on a short week. And you look at why 370 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: the Broncos drove right down the field right on that 371 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: first drive they scored. They were shut down the entire 372 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: rest of the game. And why is that? It looked, 373 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I was watching that closely, it looked like 374 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: the Chiefs just got a little more aggressive. They started 375 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: calling more blitzes, probably because they don't usually play as 376 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: aggressively when they have Mahomes in there, because so long 377 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: as they can just kind of hang around in there. 378 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: They've got enough offense to win the game. But you 379 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: know the blitzing. When they got more aggressive here because 380 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: they needed to, because they figured it was going to 381 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: be closer, it really worked for them, and I think 382 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: they'll at least continue with a more aggressive approach, especially 383 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: with Chris Johnes practicing and looking likely to return. On 384 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: the other side, the Packers are great, okay, but they're 385 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: still going to be down Devonte Adams. I'm sure I 386 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: know right now he's you know, fifty to fifty or 387 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: whatever they're calling him. I highly doubt he's going to play. 388 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: And this game against the Raiders, you know, a team 389 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: with no defense whatsoever, was really the first time that 390 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: they looked dominant offensively. And then you know, the receivers 391 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: were barely involved last week, Like NBS caught two long 392 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: passes and that's it. It was mostly these passes to 393 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: the running backs. Defense they're slipping a little bit. You 394 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: can beat them on the ground, you've always been able 395 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: to this year, but they're starting to be a little 396 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: vulnerable a bit in the passing game. You saw that 397 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: with Oakland, who could have put up a ton of 398 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: points had car not funneled through the end zone and 399 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: had they not turned the ball over another time deep 400 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: in the red zone. So for me, with Andy Reid 401 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: having extra time to prepare, even with the backup quarterback 402 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: at home, anything above three here I'm more than happy 403 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: to take. So I will take it at three and 404 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: a half. 405 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually surprisingly do kind of like that pick, 406 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: even though the public is actually all over at Green 407 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: Bay in this game. I'm not too sure what the 408 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: consensus of it. I don't have in front of me, 409 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: but I do know that the Packers, like are a 410 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: very public team this week, and when I first looked 411 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: at the board, since them homes injury, I do actually 412 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: lean the Chiefs getting points in that game, especially because 413 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: it's at home. And I mean, like you said, Matt Moore, 414 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: he's not a terrible backup quarterback, and he didn't he 415 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: didn't look so bad in that Broncos game when he 416 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: just got thrown in there, whenever it was first quarter, 417 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 2: second quarter, halfway through the game, whatever it was. And 418 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: like you said, a little bit of half a bye 419 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: week almost from Thursday night over to now, so he's 420 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 2: gonna have time to prepare. Andy Reid's good coaching in 421 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 2: that situation. I like that, Dick. I don't hate it. 422 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna play it myself, but I don't hate it. 423 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: If I had to make a play on that game, 424 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: that's probably the way I'd go, at least for a side. 425 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 2: Now we're gonna get to the player props here in 426 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: a little bit, and that's kind of where my play 427 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: for that game is gonna be at. But I don't 428 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: hate the Chiefs. 429 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: And that gay sure, I look, I will take I 430 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: don't hate it for sure, anybody. And you know, you 431 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: mentioned how the consensus broke down right now, it's about 432 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: sixty to forty taking the packers over here and the 433 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: most accurate Now, because that's one of the other things 434 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: that we do at betting pros Com. We show you 435 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: how the consensus is going in terms of percentages, but 436 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: then we also give you a separate percentages based on 437 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: how the most accurate experts are leaning. And it is 438 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty completely dead. And again so it had 439 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: moved to four, it's down to three and a half 440 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: because I think people are coming in strong here at least, 441 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, probably more of the money. As I'm looking 442 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: at the breakdown, I mean the public. You're right, they're 443 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: always going to be on the Packers. But again, you 444 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: know the book, My know that, and I think they 445 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: set the odds appropriately understanding that a lot of the 446 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: public is going to like the Packers at the number. 447 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: So I will take I don't hate it, and why 448 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: don't we move on to number three for you? 449 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: Okay? Perfect? So my third pick, I'm gonna take the 450 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 2: Broncos plus five point five versus the Colts, which is 451 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 2: actually going against the public as well. I believe the 452 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 2: Colts are a pretty public pick. The Colts are a 453 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: team that I think is actually a little bit overvalued. 454 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: This is kind of similar to my pick against the Bills. 455 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: I think the Colts are being a little bit overvalued. 456 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 2: Now there's one stat that I absolutely love. Actually, everyone 457 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 2: at odd Shark loves it. One of my co workers, 458 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: Joe Osbourne, has an article all about this stat, so 459 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 2: head over the website check that out if you want. 460 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: But the stat is net yards per play. So if 461 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: you don't know what net yards per play, you take 462 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: the number of yards gained on offense per play, subtract 463 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 2: the amounts of mount of yards given up per play 464 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: on defense. So when you look at these two teams 465 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: in that stat the Broncos around middle of the pack. 466 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: I think they're thirteen to fourteenth. Their net yards per 467 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: play is zero point one, so it is positive. But 468 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: the Colts, despite their record, they are fourth last in 469 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 2: the NFL in net yards per play at minus point 470 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: nine yards per play. So that tells me that despite 471 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 2: their record, they're not quite playing the best football right now. 472 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: And I think the reason why they're still winning well 473 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: giving up negative point nine yards per play is because 474 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: they aren't turning the ball over. I believe they only 475 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 2: have six turnovers this season, which is near the top 476 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 2: of the league in that category. But in this spot, 477 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: I think five and a half points is a lot. 478 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: I think the Broncos are a little bit better than 479 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: what people think, and I think the Colts are worse 480 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: than what people think based off what their record is 481 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: right now. So that's gonna be my third pick. I 482 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 2: like getting the points there with Denver. 483 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: This is an interesting one. I'll be honest, I did 484 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: not have a feel for it whatsoever, And in fact, 485 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: you are you're going against the expert consensus. About two 486 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: thirds of them are going with Indianapolis here laying five 487 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: and a half. Does it worry you at all with 488 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: the trade of Emmanuel Sanders that the team is going 489 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: to kind of mail it in? I mean, is it 490 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: possible at this point the trade, the lines coming up? 491 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: It just I mean, it was such a deflating loss 492 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: to Kansas City after they had won two. Is there 493 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: any chance that they're just gonna come out there? You think? 494 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: And lannegg or do you not let that factor into 495 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: your thinking when you're making your picks. 496 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 2: I don't let that factor too much into my thinking. 497 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: There are in certain cases where I do. In this case, 498 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, at the end of the day, 499 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: we need to remember these guys are still playing for 500 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 2: their jobs and coaches are coaching, you know, for their jobs, 501 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: no matter if they have a chance to make a 502 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: playoff runner or not this case, the Broncos clearly don't. 503 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, the players still 504 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: need to perform because there it's basically every single game 505 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: is basically a job interview for players and coaches. So 506 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: I don't put a whole lot of value in that. 507 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: What I am a little bit worried about is now 508 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: teams are gonna be able to focus on Courtland Sutton 509 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: a little bit more now without without Xanders there, so 510 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: that does worry me a little bit, but regardless, I 511 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 2: still like the five and a half points. 512 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: All right, I'll move on to my third pick here, 513 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna switch away from the spreads and go 514 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: to the over Unders, And as we both like usually 515 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: the Unders, I'm gonna go with the Bears and the 516 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: Chargers under forty. I feel like everything about this game 517 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: sets up pretty well for the Unders. The Bears offense 518 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: is terrible, okay, and they basically completely abandoned the run 519 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: against the Saints, even when the game was close to 520 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: Ricohon and David Montgomery got five rushing attempts total. And 521 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: I get that you don't attack the Saints on the ground, 522 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: of course, but five rushing attempts is preposterous. And Matt 523 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: Naggi has essentially admitted it. He got a lot of criticism. 524 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: He basically said he's not an idiot. He agrees he's 525 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: going to need to run run the ball more here, 526 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: and I think that he's going to And that means, 527 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, you run the ball, as you mentioned with 528 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: the Jets and the Jaguars, you run the ball. The clock, 529 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: runs drives are longer. It sets up pretty well for 530 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: the under Meanwhile, the Charters are one of the slowest 531 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: teams in the league. They're notorious for taking as much 532 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: time off the play clock as possible. Their offense just 533 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: looks completely out of sorts. A lot of it is 534 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: because of their poorest offensive line that's not going well. 535 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: The Bears still have a relatively strong defense. They're easier 536 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: to run against right now without akeeum Hicks, of course, 537 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: but the Chargers have not been able to get their 538 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: run game going regardless, so I don't expect either team 539 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: to be able to put up a ton of points. 540 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: This strikes me. I mean, they're both desperate. That's the 541 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: only thing that has me at all worried. I feel 542 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: like when teams are desperate, you never know what's going 543 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: to happen. They could get somehow creative, they could come 544 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: up with something crazy and start putting up some points. 545 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: But overall, this game, to me, I realized, forty is 546 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: a pretty low total. But I'm pretty much looking at 547 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: this as a game that has very little chance of 548 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: being a blowout. It's going to be close throughout, and 549 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: I think both teams are going to try to just 550 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: kind of win it towards the end of the game 551 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: without putting up a crazy amount of points. So give 552 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: me the Bears and the Chargers under forty. 553 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 2: That's funny because when I was actually looking to make 554 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 2: my picks for the show to let you know who 555 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to be on, that was the other under 556 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: I was deciding between either that one and the Jets 557 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 2: and the Jags. I ended up going with the Jets 558 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: and the Jags, but that one was a close second. 559 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: So I love that underplay. Like you said, the Bears 560 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: offense absolutely stinks. I don't know what's going on with 561 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: the Chargers right now. After Week one, you may remember, 562 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: I'm a big Falcons fan. The Falcons are absolute trash 563 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: this year. After Week one, I said, I'm no longer 564 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: a Falcons fan. I decided to be a Chargers fan 565 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 2: for this season. And then the Chargers are basically just 566 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 2: the foul of the AFC. 567 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: So you know, we we've got room over here on 568 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: the Jets bandwagon, because it sounds like that's kind of 569 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: where you're leaning over there, right, Just keep going to 570 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: The Dolphins are next. They yeah going to be great? 571 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly maze old cheer for the Redskins tonight. Yeah. So, 572 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 2: I mean Chargers they're all out of sorts, Bears are 573 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: all out of sorts, are like that under. 574 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I feel pretty good about it. And 575 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, it's against the consensus. It's about sixty 576 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: forty in favor of the over there. But for me, 577 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: this is definitely one of the unders that I'm going 578 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: to be playing. 579 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: So it is pretty rare that you'll see consensus. Most 580 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: public like consensus lean towards the under. Does happen, but 581 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: most of the time, just because how we mentioned earlier, 582 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: public loves to bed overs because they're more fun. So no, 583 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: but these are the experts. Oh, the experts are saying that. Okay, yes, 584 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: the experts. I appreciate you trying to save me. It 585 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: is a little interesting. I'm surprised because this struck me. 586 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: This was not what I struggled with. It was the 587 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: first one that jumped out of me when I looked 588 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: at over unders. I did you know, the Jags and 589 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: the and the Jets were certainly under consideration, but this 590 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: one jumped out of me. Now, look to be fair, 591 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: I took the under on the Bears Saints last week 592 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 2: that was not close, although there was a lot of 593 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: fluky sort of touchdowns in that one. You know, you 594 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: had the kick return for the touch and everything like that. 595 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: So you know, in the end, I feel pretty comfortable 596 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: right now with us under So, you know, expert consensus whatever, 597 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 2: I'm good with that. I'm willing to go against them 598 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: every once in a while. 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I mean, 649 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 2: who knows how healthy he is. It's a little bit 650 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: confusing to me that he's even coming back this week, 651 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 2: because I think they're on by next week. I don't 652 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: know why you wouldn't just take the extra week of rest, 653 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: But when anytime a quarterback comes back, that kind of 654 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: messes with the flow of the offense. I mean, the 655 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 2: Saints were absolutely crushing it with Teddy Bridgewater, So who 656 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 2: knows how kind of their offense is gonna feel about 657 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: Drew Brees coming back, which is weird to say, considering 658 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: Drew Brees the first ballot Hall of Famer. But it 659 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: does just kind of mess with game plans, it messes 660 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 2: with flows. So the Saints make me a little bit nervous, 661 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: especially with the double digit spread there. And then on 662 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: the other side of things, I don't understand Kyler Murray. 663 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: I thought he was gonna be a bust and I 664 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 2: still kind of think he is even when I watch 665 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: him play. He makes throws that I don't think are 666 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: the right throws to make. But he's won a couple 667 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 2: of games and he's actually looked all like. His stats 668 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: are looking all right, so it's hard for me to 669 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 2: completely fade him. Usually with rookie quarterbacks, it's hard to 670 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 2: bet on them because one game will look unreal, the 671 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: next game will look bad, and other NFL teams that 672 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: they're playing against they usually figure out rookie quarterbacks a 673 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 2: few games in the season, and if they can find 674 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 2: holes or ways to exploit that rookie quarterback, then they'll 675 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 2: take advantage of them. I don't know if there's one 676 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 2: there with Kyler Murray but him and it's the same 677 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: with the Giants who It's the reason why I'm staying 678 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: away from the Giants. With Daniel Jones back and then 679 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: rookie quarterbacks just make me a little bit nervous. I 680 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: don't know what I'm gonna get from them, so game 681 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: to avoid. It's a trap for me. Is gonna be 682 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: the Cardinals and Saints game. 683 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. First of all, the spread is 684 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: just it's too much for me to feel comfortable with 685 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: it no matter which way I go, because I do 686 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 1: you think that the Saints win pretty italy. First of all, 687 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm putting it out there. I don't think Brees plays. 688 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: I get that. Everything right now is pointing to the 689 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: fact that he's gonna play. But you know, in the end, 690 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: as you said, there's just no reason for it. They 691 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: should be able to win this game handily. Bridgewater has 692 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: played well. Why not give in the buy to make 693 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: sure he's good. I think in the end that is 694 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. But I agree with Murray. It's like, 695 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what I'm gonna see With Murray. 696 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: I like a lot of what I've seen of him, 697 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: but it's still very much of I like the way 698 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: he looks early when every play is scripted for him, 699 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: and then when he goes off a little bit because 700 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: they've run out of like Okay, this is what you're 701 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: gonna do for your first fifteen plays. It's a little 702 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: bit like, Okay, you're kind of all over the place. 703 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: Some of it's good, some of it's not good. I 704 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: don't really know. The Saints have a very tough defense, 705 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: but when you're over ten on the line, it just, 706 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's something that makes me very uncomfortable. So 707 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: this is certainly a game I'm not gonna go near. 708 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: So I like it with you. 709 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was just gonna say it is gonna 710 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: be a little bit interesting if Drew Brees is ruled out. 711 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm curious to see if that's gonna move the line 712 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: at all. 713 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: The problem is, I don't think he's going to be 714 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: ruled out until like game day. I think this is 715 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: gonna be a thing where it's going to be like, oh, 716 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna make a call on game day, and then 717 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: on Sunday morning, you're gonna hear that he's out. But yeah, 718 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it opened at eight and a half, so 719 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it moved because I don't think it 720 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: moved because of the money. I think it moved because 721 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: of the fact that they got word that Breeze might 722 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: be playing, and I think it's gonna go. So if 723 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: it comes out late, my guess is it's gonna drop 724 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: below ten. And in that case, you know, I could 725 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: probably lean towards the Saints once it got below the 726 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: key number of ten. But either way, it's just not 727 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: a game that I think I really want to go 728 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: against because I just don't have a good. 729 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: Feel for it. If it gets back to eight and 730 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: a half, it might take the Saints, but still it's tough. 731 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. As for me, I'm gonna be avoiding 732 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: the Titans laying two and a half to the Bucks. Now, 733 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna change this up next week. But legitimately, the 734 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: Titans and the Bucks are two teams that I say 735 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: every week pretty much I cannot get a read on 736 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: no matter what I do, and this matchup is particularly 737 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: tough for me to read because both teams stop the 738 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: run really really well. So is Ryan Tannehill gonna be 739 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: able to involve his wide receivers this heavily. Again, is 740 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: James Winston gonna benefit from the I or is he 741 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: gonna throw five picks? 742 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: Again? 743 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: It's two teams that I don't understand on a good day, 744 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: and this matchup in particular brings in the variables the 745 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: passing games, which I'm just completely not comfortable with, especially 746 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: since I don't really know with what we saw with 747 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: Tennehell looked, you know, much better in my opinion than 748 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: Marcus Marriotta. But still, you know, I've seen enough of 749 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: him in his career to not think that he's a 750 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: savior or anything. So generally speaking, when the Titans and 751 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: the Bucks get involved, because the Bucks have basically I 752 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: picked the wrong version of the Bucks every single week. 753 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: Every single week, I think it's gonna be uh, Doctor Jekyl, 754 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: It's mister Hyde and vice versa. So for me, I'm 755 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: staying far away from any game pretty much at this 756 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: point involving either of these two teams. The fact that 757 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: they are playing each other makes it really easy for me. 758 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: So I'm avoiding the Titans laying two and a half 759 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: to the Bucks. 760 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that, I mean both teams. It 761 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: seems like every week that you think they're gonna lose, 762 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: they come out and play really well and win. And 763 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: then every week you think that they're gonna win, they 764 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 2: come out and play the crap and lose. 765 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: So they both do they both do that exactly. So yeah, 766 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: it's tough, all right. So you're avoiding these Saints laying 767 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: ten and anl half to the Cardinals, and I am 768 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: avoiding the Titans laying two and a half to the Bucks. 769 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: Before we get into our final segment, remember we've got 770 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: a signed Odell Beckham junior helmet giveaway contest going on. 771 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: You can get more details at bettingpros dot com slash contest. 772 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: But to be entered, just leave a review for the 773 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: show on Apple Podcasts or Stitcher and send a screenshot 774 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: of that review to contest at bettingpros dot com. All right, Ian, 775 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: it is time for Top Prop, where we list our 776 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: top player prop for the week. 777 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: Go ahead, So I'm gonna be looking at now. You 778 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: talked about this game earlier, the Packers Chiefs game. So 779 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: my player prop for that game, which I actually love, 780 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: is going to be Aaron Jones over seventy five rushing yards. 781 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 2: They go to the minus one twelve. So a couple 782 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: points here. The first thing is the Chiefs are tied 783 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: with the Browns for the second last in the league 784 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: and opponent yards per carry, so teams are getting five 785 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 2: yards per carry against them. And then even if Mahomes 786 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: is out, the game plan should be to keep the 787 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: Chiefs off the field, because that's how we saw both 788 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: the Colts and the Texans ACXU beat the Chiefs was 789 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 2: to just completely keep the Chiefs explosive offense off the field. 790 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: So what does that That includes running the ball a lot. 791 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: So we can even prove that with numbers if we 792 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: look at Marlon max numbers when the Colts beat the Chiefs, 793 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: he had twenty nine carries in that game, which is 794 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: his season high by pretty wide margin. Same goes for 795 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: Carlos High to the Texans. He had a season high 796 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: twenty six carries for the Texans when they beat the Chiefs. 797 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 2: So the blueprint has been out on how to beat 798 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. It's to run the ball keep their offense 799 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: off the field. So Aaron Jones, I think he's going 800 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: to get a lot of carries that over seventy five 801 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 2: yard mark. I think he's gonna be able to hit 802 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,959 Speaker 2: that with ease. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets over 803 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: one hundred yards, to be completely honest, especially with that 804 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: weak Chiefs run defense. So Aaron Jones over seventy five 805 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: rushing yards, Yeah, I like it. 806 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: I mean I said that the Chiefs defense looks to 807 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: be getting a little healthier and they look to be improving. 808 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: They were much better against the Broncos. Of course, you know, 809 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay and Royce Freeman did very little on the 810 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: ground in that game. But before that, Yeah, that's right, 811 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: that was kind of the blueprint. Now, I don't necessarily 812 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: know if the team has to stick to that blueprint 813 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: right now, because the whole point of basically being like, 814 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: let's keep Patrick Mahomes off the field by running the 815 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: ball and controlling the clock is not really in play here. 816 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 1: Considering More is going to be the starter almost certainly, 817 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: But I don't really think that that matters that much. 818 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: I mean, look, Rogers accounted for six touchdowns last week. 819 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: He threw five, I believe in ran in for one. 820 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: That's not what they want to do. I mean, that's 821 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: not the way the Packers really want to do this. 822 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: They have a very strong defense, which is getting a 823 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: little weaker as I mentioned. But again, Matt Moore is 824 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: not gonna light this up. I mean, they're gonna be 825 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: a play or two to Tyreek Hill where he's gonna 826 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: break one or something like that, but in the end, 827 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: they're not gonna put up a crazy amount of points. 828 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 1: I don't think this is one where the Packers are 829 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: gonna come out firing. I think they are gonna lean 830 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: on Jones and Williams to the extent. But I think, 831 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, as we have now seen some sanity restored, 832 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be Jones leaving the way significantly over here. 833 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't hate that at all. Jones over 834 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: seventy five rushing yards'm minus one twelve in particular. I'm 835 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: good to go with that, I am. I'm gonna go 836 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: a little riskier, okay, I'm gonna go with Dante Johnson 837 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: to go over seventy five yards receiving at plus one 838 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: point ninety. Now Johnson is two full games here with 839 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolf. He's got fifty two yards receiving against the 840 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, seventy seven yards receiving against the Bengals, 841 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 1: and now he gets the Dolphins. So I'm not gonna 842 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: lie to you, Ian. The Dolphins are bad. They allow 843 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: thirteen point six yards per catch, that is the most 844 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I get it. There's certainly a 845 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: risk here that the Steelers are just gonna run all day, 846 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: that it's just gonna be James Connor all day, or 847 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: Benny Snell or whatever they want to do, because the 848 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: Dolphins are probably not gonna be able to put up 849 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: a ton of points. Although to be fair, Ryan Fitzpatrick 850 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: made that offense look semi competent against a very tough 851 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: Bills defense last weekend, so it's possible that the Dolphins 852 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: put up at least a few points here that make 853 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: the Steelers throw. But in the end, what I really 854 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: think it is is that I think the Steelers probably 855 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: want to use this game to get Rudolph a little 856 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: confidence as he returns back to the field from that 857 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: massive hit that gave him a concussion. So I think 858 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: this is exactly the spot to do it at pretty 859 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: much two for one for your money, given the connection 860 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: that Johnson has shown with Mason Rudolf, especially one of 861 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: those games was against the forty nine Ers, a very 862 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: tough defense I'm gonna take Johnson to go over seventy 863 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: five yards receiving at plus one ninety. 864 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a sneaky little play. I actually 865 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 2: kind of liked that a lot. To be honest, I 866 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 2: don't really have a whole lot of thoughts so that 867 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 2: the Dolphins are the Dolphins. We know we're gonna get 868 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: within the absolutely stink. So yeah, I love that play. 869 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: Wow, thanks boy, you are so excited about it. It 870 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: makes me feel better than I don't hate it. 871 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 872 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: Again, I mean it was kind of I was looking 873 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: through the props and you know, sometimes I like to 874 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: go a little deeper, and this is one I think 875 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: people really, you know, nobody's gonna really be looking at 876 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: playing at this one. But there does seem to be 877 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: a pretty good connection between Rudolph and Johnson. So I 878 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: do think this is something where, you know, even though 879 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: they will run a lot, I think they're gonna want 880 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: to try to at least get Rudolph that comfortable, have 881 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: him make some more throws rather than the gimmicky offense 882 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: that we've kind of seen a little bit. Just to 883 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, this is like essentially the softest matchup that 884 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: you can have so I think they're gonna try to 885 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: take advantage of that as best they can. All right, 886 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: that is going to do it for today's show. Thanks 887 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: again for joining me. 888 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 2: Ian. 889 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: Can you remind everyone where they can find more of 890 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 1: you and your work? 891 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, Please follow me on Twitter at Ian Macows. 892 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 2: As you mentioned the top of the show, my name 893 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: is spelled a little weird. It's a I N. M 894 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 2: Acos on Twitter, so go ahead and give me a 895 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: follow there. 896 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: All right, great, thanks again for coming on, and I 897 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: hope we can do it at least once more before 898 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: the NFL season ends. 899 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 2: Absolutely sounds good. 900 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: Dan, all right, I want to remind everyone briefly about 901 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: bet MGM, where you can basically win one hundred dollars 902 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: for nothing if Aaron Rodgers throws a touchdown pass against 903 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. 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