WEBVTT - The Welfare Check Body Cams | BONUS 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, it's Stephanie back with another bonus episode. Before we

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<v Speaker 1>get to episode ten, I want to explain a bit

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<v Speaker 1>about Laura and her mom's interaction with the Scottsdale Police

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<v Speaker 1>in November and December of twenty twenty three. The police

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<v Speaker 1>were dispatched to Laura's house for a welfare check on

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<v Speaker 1>her at least four separate times. Two of them were

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<v Speaker 1>recorded on officer body cams and have been made public. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to play you those recordings. You'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>hear from Laura's mom, Jan Black, and from Laura herself.

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<v Speaker 1>They tell the police their side of the story. We

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<v Speaker 1>lightly edited them to cut out dead air or repeated information,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've left these mostly intact so you can hear

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<v Speaker 1>the whole interaction. We're starting with the welfare check on

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<v Speaker 1>December twelfth, twenty twenty three. Laura's mom, Jan is the

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<v Speaker 1>one who answers the door, and just a heads up,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hear the officer's phone buzzing from time to time.

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<v Speaker 2>M mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Is Laura there? Yeah? Is this is somebody called in

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<v Speaker 3>a welfare chuck about her?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Yeah, it's a friend from New York.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if you know who that might be.

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<v Speaker 6>No, what I do know is that she is the

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<v Speaker 6>target of an online harassment campaign that has been going

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<v Speaker 6>on for months.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the things that they wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 6>It was started by a disgirdled ex boyfriend of hers,

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<v Speaker 6>and he started posting all of this crazy stuff about

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<v Speaker 6>her on Reddit, stuff that is.

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<v Speaker 3>Unbelievable. And so he has encouraged people to do.

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<v Speaker 6>To call in the Scotstale Police Department and do and

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<v Speaker 6>ask for a welfare chock.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this is like the third one in a week, okay.

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<v Speaker 6>And I had contacted the I mean she called in

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<v Speaker 6>and talked to Discutsdale Police Department as well and said,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, we don't want your resources. This is this

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<v Speaker 6>is ridiculous. It's a prank, okay thing, But I'm happy

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<v Speaker 6>to go get her. She was she was taking a nap.

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<v Speaker 6>She this has been devastating, beyond belief.

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<v Speaker 4>Is she asleep now.

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<v Speaker 3>She's she's taken a nap, but I can wake her up.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think that would be necessary.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well so I don't.

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<v Speaker 7>For some reason, it wasn't in our notes for your address.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going to put comments in there that says this

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<v Speaker 7>is an ongoing prank, right, they still may send We

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<v Speaker 7>have to understand because if we don't, if it's not

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<v Speaker 7>us on or it's not the same dispatchers, they still

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<v Speaker 7>might just send on it. But I would work on

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<v Speaker 7>trying to contact Reddit and let them know.

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<v Speaker 6>She has contacted them. They will not take it now,

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<v Speaker 6>they will not take it down and disco he's created

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<v Speaker 6>different fake accounts.

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<v Speaker 3>He I mean, it's he's going to great legs. Have

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<v Speaker 3>you looked into an injunction.

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<v Speaker 6>Against harass she has against him? She's this is part

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<v Speaker 6>of his part of his things. She's had this against

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<v Speaker 6>him for two years.

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<v Speaker 4>And ex boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's an old ex boyfriend and she had the

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<v Speaker 6>injunction against harassment against him.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he's really.

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<v Speaker 6>Another friend of ours who is an FBI profiler had

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<v Speaker 6>looked at you know what this guy is all about,

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<v Speaker 6>and she said, he's the kind of a person who

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<v Speaker 6>is not going to stop unless he thinks he's got

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<v Speaker 6>a win.

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<v Speaker 3>And he had he had said to her, he texted.

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<v Speaker 6>Her, I will destroy your life. I will destroy your reputation.

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<v Speaker 6>And that was two years ago, and he's just he's

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<v Speaker 6>just continued this.

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<v Speaker 4>Is he local here?

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<v Speaker 3>Or yeah, he's local. What's his name, he's local. His

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<v Speaker 3>name is.

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<v Speaker 6>Frank the last week, do you but he could have

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<v Speaker 6>called from a fake number, or like I say, he's

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<v Speaker 6>tried to start stuff online.

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<v Speaker 3>She had she contacted the Scout Sale Police Department with

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of.

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<v Speaker 6>Instances of these and they sent it to the prosecutor's office,

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<v Speaker 6>and the prosecutor's office said that they didn't think they

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<v Speaker 6>could get a conviction, or that they said there was

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of stuff, but they didn't know that they

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<v Speaker 6>if they would be able to get a conviction on it.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think that one of his motives is to

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<v Speaker 6>try to make it so that when her order against

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<v Speaker 6>him comes up for renewal next year, that he can say, well, look,

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<v Speaker 6>you know she's you know, she's crazy. You know, look

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<v Speaker 6>at all this stuff that he's posted online about her,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, well.

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<v Speaker 7>And then especially for her document it, get copies of

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<v Speaker 7>it so then she can go right back to the

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<v Speaker 7>judge and be like, right, let's go on.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, And he's contacted a podcaster who has also been

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<v Speaker 6>doing just relentless posts about her and.

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<v Speaker 3>Might know, well what happened, what prompted a.

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<v Speaker 6>Lot of this stuff is my daughter became pregnant by

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<v Speaker 6>the guy who was the bachelor last year, and she

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<v Speaker 6>became pregnant by him in May, and then he was

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<v Speaker 6>acting like, oh, you're not really pregnant, or if you

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<v Speaker 6>are pregnant, it's not mine, and and and then other.

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<v Speaker 3>Times he was saying to us like, oh, but he.

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<v Speaker 6>Wanted to be involved in the pregnancy and all this

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<v Speaker 6>kind of stuff. So anyhow, when this ex boyfriend found

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<v Speaker 6>out about her pregnancy with this guy, then it send

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<v Speaker 6>him like into kind of an overdrive thing, and then

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<v Speaker 6>he reached out to him. And it's like my daughter

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<v Speaker 6>finally did a big post on Medium the other day explaining,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, just the toll that all of this has

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<v Speaker 6>has taken on her and how it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>On the link, I think there's probably somebody our neighbor,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe sits dogs. So I think that this is like

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<v Speaker 6>pick up Okay, I know, I know, I'm always kind

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<v Speaker 6>of like that too.

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<v Speaker 7>Get one. I also try to get online. You can

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<v Speaker 7>contact Google at different places and have her information remove

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<v Speaker 7>from online like house phone, number of things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Work on doing that too.

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<v Speaker 7>Try to get as much information as you can offline.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's hard. We we have to do it,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's exactly how they tell us to do it.

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<v Speaker 7>And there's ways to like whitepages dot com and you

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<v Speaker 7>can go on there's a link it says remove my

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<v Speaker 7>information and you can go on that. Have her start

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<v Speaker 7>doing all that information too, and then I get that

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<v Speaker 7>they'll come into the house.

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<v Speaker 3>But see what you can do to block that information,

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<v Speaker 3>right right right? Well, I just feel I feel really awful.

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<v Speaker 6>For you guys, because you know this is this is

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<v Speaker 6>it's a waste of it's a waste of resources, and

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<v Speaker 6>it's obviously you know ranks.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what phone number had contacted? It's a

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<v Speaker 3>four and five area code. It's out of New York.

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<v Speaker 3>Four and five is is San Francisco. You're from San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 4>Our number the four while four day.

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<v Speaker 5>The person that called us gave us that phone number.

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<v Speaker 4>Contactor said that whoever called doesn't have it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting old information online.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, do you have do you because I just like

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<v Speaker 8>to give me it's not can I'll walk out and

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<v Speaker 8>the rabbit, Oh that would be great.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you notice spelled?

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<v Speaker 4>Greg's last name?

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<v Speaker 9>Is it g I L L E. S.

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<v Speaker 3>S p i E.

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<v Speaker 4>Has he been harassing her by stopping by the house

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<v Speaker 4>at all or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>He has gone into her email.

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<v Speaker 6>He they they dated very briefly, and she became pregnant

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<v Speaker 6>by him, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And.

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<v Speaker 6>He was very shall we say violent in his effort

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<v Speaker 6>to get her to have an abortion, so she filed

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<v Speaker 6>an abortion coercion case against him, which really ticked him off.

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<v Speaker 6>She didn't ask for any money for her She asked

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<v Speaker 6>for a charitable donation for abortion coersion.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you get it? Yeah, it's for DOES And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to actually give them a call to follow up

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<v Speaker 3>with them.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, what is what does Greg drive? Do you know?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I don't she didn't.

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<v Speaker 6>He's made I mean absolutely, he's made crazy things. He's

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<v Speaker 6>posted online stuff saying that that he went to high school.

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<v Speaker 3>With her, which he never did.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, he's posted on these fake accounts saying that

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<v Speaker 6>he knew her in high school and that that she

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<v Speaker 6>was pregnant by a developmental, developmentally disabled kid, the father

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<v Speaker 6>of somebody else, the principal, the school principle. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>things that are so unbelievably outrageous. I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 6>like it's to really, I think, try to discredit her

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<v Speaker 6>again so that when her order against him comes up,

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<v Speaker 6>then it'll look like, oh wow, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at the stuff online.

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<v Speaker 8>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, so there is a current order of protection

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<v Speaker 3>against him. Yes, yes, there is.

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<v Speaker 4>Still yeah County okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean and the guy is the guy is unhinged.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I had no I had no clue when

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I had said.

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<v Speaker 6>To her when she wanted to file this abortion corrosion

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<v Speaker 6>case in the first place, they said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 6>just let sleeping dogs lie, just be done with him

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<v Speaker 6>and everything like that. She was like, no, I feel

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<v Speaker 6>really strongly about about what he did and the way

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<v Speaker 6>he did it to me, and uh so, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>she went ahead with it, and as I say, it

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<v Speaker 6>just started this.

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<v Speaker 3>Torrent of of yeah, you know, really really bad stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>But anyway, I I I appreciated it, and no problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Look and definitely look into trying to get any.

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<v Speaker 8>Information you can removed online. They had your name too,

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<v Speaker 8>they did. What did they have as Elizabeth? Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 8>my that's my given name. Jam is my nickname James Robert.

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<v Speaker 3>When I took a picture of.

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<v Speaker 6>It, Okay, I had your husband's name, Ki okay, wrong, okay, so.

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<v Speaker 7>No address, so I would I would definitely try to

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<v Speaker 7>see whatever you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can move from online.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well they've they've been trying to post on our

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<v Speaker 6>social media stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>They've posted on her social media stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>They've h and and this guy, as I say, when

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<v Speaker 6>she was going out with him, he said like, you know, well,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm really suspicious of people, So you know, would you

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<v Speaker 6>give me your passwords because I wouldn't want to think,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I want everything to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be prought, you know, to I wanted to trust each other.

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<v Speaker 3>So she gave it. She was like, oh, okay, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>no problem.

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<v Speaker 6>So he's gone in to her emails from years and

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<v Speaker 6>years ago and doctored emails and sent them as though

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<v Speaker 6>they were from her.

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<v Speaker 3>He's doctored let her head.

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<v Speaker 6>He did come here one time when she was dating him,

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<v Speaker 6>and the first thing he said is he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>I nat your parents WiFi information. He was out here,

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<v Speaker 6>I need their WiFi, what's their password and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's he's been doing.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, if later, when you speak to Laura, like I said,

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<v Speaker 9>I don't necessarily want to wake her up. If she

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<v Speaker 9>wants to speak with someone from the police department about

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<v Speaker 9>everything that's been going on lately, because you said it's

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<v Speaker 9>been the like the third time and about the last week.

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<v Speaker 6>Or so, right, And she had talked with Detective Ready,

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<v Speaker 6>I think had had he had come up with he

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<v Speaker 6>had sent the stuff and forwarded it to the prosecut us.

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<v Speaker 6>But the prosecutors just said that they're you know, they'd

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<v Speaker 6>have to be assured of getting out to have a.

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<v Speaker 7>Reach out to Detective Reading again and let him know

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<v Speaker 7>what's going on with this now that may be able

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<v Speaker 7>to kind of help maybe refile.

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<v Speaker 6>I think what his thing was that it would be

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<v Speaker 6>difficult for him to be able to prove.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, she was suspicious of all this stuff. But

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we pretty you know, there's nobody else who

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<v Speaker 3>would have the motive to.

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<v Speaker 6>Do it's approven because he goes under names. He like

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<v Speaker 6>I say, he obviously you know doctor that did they

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<v Speaker 6>say what their concern was when they called suicidal comments? Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 6>because she had when she posted this thing on medium,

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<v Speaker 6>she she had written in there that that this unrelenting,

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<v Speaker 6>this has gone on for months, that this had made

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<v Speaker 6>her feel borderline suicide. Okay, so you know, but she

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<v Speaker 6>she she said the borderline suicideal think.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's not, you know, not the case right right.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like she she had said to me, like, oh

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<v Speaker 6>my god, how much more of this can I take?

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<v Speaker 3>Does she have any friends in New York?

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<v Speaker 6>My daughter lives in New York, My other daughter lives

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<v Speaker 6>in New York, but she's she's well aware of.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on. She would and she would contact you,

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<v Speaker 3>oh of course, of course.

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<v Speaker 6>And Laura talks to her like twenty like two hours

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<v Speaker 6>a day that they're on the phone. So, and I

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<v Speaker 6>was just with my daughter in there like five minutes

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<v Speaker 6>before you guys rang. And the reason I she lives

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<v Speaker 6>in the casita, and the reason I left was because

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<v Speaker 6>she said, Hey, I'm just I'm spent from all this.

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<v Speaker 6>I just want to close my eyes for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, why did she pose that? When did she posts

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<v Speaker 3>the medium thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yesterday?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was before you.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean it was was on there yesterday, but I

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<v Speaker 6>want to say it was maybe, uh, today's Tuesday, maybe

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<v Speaker 6>Friday night or Saturdaykay, that.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of goes with the timeline.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm going to give this to you, not that you

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<v Speaker 10>guys are in crisis, but they might be able to

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<v Speaker 10>kind of help just give her someone else to talk to,

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<v Speaker 10>or they have resources that we don't even know exists.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, really, reach out. They might be able to help

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<v Speaker 3>you guys in a good direction.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, okay, And also reach out to the detective again

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<v Speaker 9>and yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, let him know what's been happening, and yeah, that way,

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<v Speaker 7>he's kind of apprized of it Tuesday, It might it

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<v Speaker 7>might be able to help kind of open a different.

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<v Speaker 3>Door, a different direction. But reach out to him again.

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<v Speaker 10>But these guys have a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 10>resources that we don't even know exists.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so give them a call.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Okay, Yeah, I can't hurt no, I mean because,

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<v Speaker 6>like she had said, she had tried to be anonymous

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<v Speaker 6>with this whole thing, initially with the pregnancy with the

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<v Speaker 6>bachelor guy, and then and then people were saying, well, wait,

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<v Speaker 6>you can. This guy was starting the conversation that wait,

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<v Speaker 6>you can google the case and then her name comes

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<v Speaker 6>up and it's Laura Owens and she's a podcaster.

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<v Speaker 3>She and I do a podcast and we've done it for.

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<v Speaker 6>I guess since twenty seventeen and iTunes named as one

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<v Speaker 6>of the top twenty five most downloaded new podcasts in

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<v Speaker 6>twenty eighteen. So we've had we've had success with it,

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<v Speaker 6>but I mean, this is just, you know, she really

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<v Speaker 6>had wanted to stay under the radar on this, and

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<v Speaker 6>then she finally decided like, hey, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, this guy is controlling the narrative and I have

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<v Speaker 3>to speak out. I have to.

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<v Speaker 6>Explain what's been going on, because otherwise she was feeling

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<v Speaker 6>like she was getting no support from anybody because she

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<v Speaker 6>didn't really want to go tell her friends and everything

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<v Speaker 6>like that that this was all going on. So it's

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<v Speaker 6>just it's a nightmare, a nightmare, but I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll put comments in there so they know.

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<v Speaker 6>Officer Rannick was the guy who who contacted her the

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<v Speaker 6>other night, Like okay, yeah, yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 7>He comments in there with the address and then it'll

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<v Speaker 7>come up in the history. We'll go back and read

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<v Speaker 7>through the comments. So we'll try to do that to

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<v Speaker 7>help you guys out a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, no, I really appreciate anything. Hey, way, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got something for you guys. Hang on side.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the video, Jan hands a candy

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<v Speaker 1>bar to one of the officers. He takes it and

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<v Speaker 1>thanks Jan.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you chocolate. So thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Another welfare check happened a week earlier, on December fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, and this time Laura joins the conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, are you looking for Laura?

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<v Speaker 3>Laura's my daughter?

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<v Speaker 11>Okay here, yeah, uh she called the FBI, and the

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<v Speaker 11>FBI called us to come check her, make sure she's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, she was reporting something to him, but she was

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<v Speaker 4>upset and sounded like she made some statements. They just

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to make sure she's okay. This a long time, No,

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<v Speaker 4>this was supposedly this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I just make sure see your car?

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<v Speaker 4>They said, she's back here, but she was gonna come on.

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<v Speaker 3>Where is your police car? The police car? I just

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<v Speaker 3>we've had some really strange things. Where's your police car?

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<v Speaker 4>There's two of them sitting right here.

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<v Speaker 12>Okay, okay, okay, all right, we'll come on.

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<v Speaker 4>But she lives in the back in the little.

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't you come on in?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, she's had some real issues with an ex boyfriend

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<v Speaker 12>who It is the most complicated bizarre story ever.

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<v Speaker 4>But well, our mab our Main. The only reason we're

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<v Speaker 4>here is she evidently gave the FBI talked to them.

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<v Speaker 4>They just wanted us to swing by to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>she's okay. Okay, that's all we need.

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<v Speaker 3>One second, let me just go gather.

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<v Speaker 4>Hang on, why did.

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<v Speaker 3>You contact the FBI this morning, cyber Crimes Unit?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, did you talk to somebody or.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody contacted me?

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<v Speaker 5>I like just submitted it like an hour ago. If

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<v Speaker 5>it's the same thing she helped me with, did the report.

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<v Speaker 13>So the information we got was that you submitted something

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<v Speaker 13>to the FBI. It didn't say whether you talked to

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<v Speaker 13>somebody on the phone or electronically, like made a nonline complaint. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 13>is that some something you said was borderline suicidal?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>That was from the guy that that was also from.

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<v Speaker 14>So I called us to come check on you to

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<v Speaker 14>make sure you're okay. Yeah, yeah, No, that was like

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<v Speaker 14>you were were you talking about whatever you said where

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<v Speaker 14>you talked about yourself or someone?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it was like from a couple of months ago.

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<v Speaker 5>She was saying she's been targeted, like she's had a

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<v Speaker 5>horrible situation with cyber from an ex boyfriend, from another

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<v Speaker 5>guy that was obsessed with her.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, and I had fifty videos of me on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 12>so and yeah she has she has simply asked him

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<v Speaker 12>to stop. She's filed to cease and desist asking him

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<v Speaker 12>to stop, and they're not. They haven't stopped, and so

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<v Speaker 12>she she thought that that, you know, it needs to

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<v Speaker 12>go to some kind of cyber crimes unit.

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<v Speaker 5>She had said in there that the harassment I.

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<v Speaker 3>Had, well, I can say it.

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<v Speaker 8>I had told the guy specifically that like, creating these

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<v Speaker 8>daily videos about me had made me Phil.

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<v Speaker 5>Porter's really suicidal.

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<v Speaker 12>I was like last month, I messaged him and he

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<v Speaker 12>continued to make videos about me.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm fine. He's like this guy has made.

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<v Speaker 12>Like forty fifty fifty Yeah, I mean it's just insane.

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<v Speaker 13>Somebody at the actually saw your yeah right and saw

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<v Speaker 13>that where it's like these videos thinking and they're like.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, We're like, oh, we better call make sure you're.

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<v Speaker 13>Not actually gonna hurt yourself right now.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're not. You don't need any assistance or okay.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 12>No, yeah, unless you can get the guy to to stop.

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<v Speaker 5>But I mean it's been it's been horrific. Absolutely sounds like.

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<v Speaker 13>Somebody at the FP I got your plans hopefully hopefully.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's what I'm the mom.

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<v Speaker 4>You're aware of everything going on, right, so you're here, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everything that's going on.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it's been it's been well.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you do start feeling like, yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 4>always call us because we can get you help too.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, appreciate that. I mean, what would be great

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<v Speaker 5>is just for the guys to stop.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just very scary.

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<v Speaker 12>But it's just that he's he's just really tried to

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<v Speaker 12>incite online online hatred of her, and he he was

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<v Speaker 12>She has protective orders against two prior boyfriends and one

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<v Speaker 12>of them is a real is a real stalker, kind

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<v Speaker 12>of a nut and has done every He swore that

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<v Speaker 12>he was going to ruin her life and he was

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<v Speaker 12>able to happen it too her computer, he had her passwords,

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<v Speaker 12>he had all this kind of stuff, and uh, it's

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<v Speaker 12>just he did contact with this YouTube guy, and he's

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<v Speaker 12>just tried to do, you know, just to ruin her,

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<v Speaker 12>to come up with all these fake stories, this craziness

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<v Speaker 12>and and posted online about her. And so so you know,

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<v Speaker 12>she was finally thinking like if a seasoned assist didn't work,

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<v Speaker 12>and she's tried to get a temporary restraining order against

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<v Speaker 12>this guy.

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<v Speaker 5>First Amendment, right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I figured I had to contact and he's claiming

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a right to postuff, but he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a right to post lies. But anyway, but but so

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<v Speaker 2>Laura was saying, well, maybe you know, he has violated

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<v Speaker 2>these cyber stalking and cyber crime stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>This guy posted a map of my house.

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<v Speaker 3>I have another house, so he posted we have a

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<v Speaker 3>layer B a B.

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<v Speaker 12>He posted a thing was showing how to get to

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<v Speaker 12>our house with pictures of the house. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 12>had that on his computer up in the background when

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<v Speaker 12>he was posting one of these the other the other day. So,

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<v Speaker 12>so Laura was thinking, you know, maybe if we contacted

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<v Speaker 12>a cyber crimes cyber stalking unit, that maybe that Yeah,

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<v Speaker 12>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>People have said like they helpe I'm an organ donor

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<v Speaker 2>because that's thank good would come from my pathetic existence,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I'm a waste of skin like they've been.

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<v Speaker 3>They're very mean.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm hoping to.

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<v Speaker 12>And yeah, yeah, we we just you know, because it's

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<v Speaker 12>like where do we where do we even turn if

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<v Speaker 12>if they won't respect the court system, and and you know,

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<v Speaker 12>they've they've just tried to do everything to hurt us,

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<v Speaker 12>to hurt you know, the family, to I.

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<v Speaker 5>Mean, they've it's just it's just been an absolute night.

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<v Speaker 4>As long as you're okay. That's why we're here to

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<v Speaker 4>make sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Really appreciate you look at everything.

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<v Speaker 4>I really.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you so much for listening. Stay tuned for

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