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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and SMITHA and hope your stuff.

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Speaker 1: I never told your production of iHeartRadio. And welcome to

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Speaker 1: our guest athlete, host, sports commentator and so so, so

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Speaker 1: so much more AJ Andrews. We're so happy to have you.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we're really excited to have this conversation. Can you

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Speaker 1: introduce yourself to our listeners please?

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm a professional softball player and at CVOs you'll

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Speaker 3: see on SEC network, MLB Network and Reach TV mainly,

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Speaker 3: and then as far as softball goes, I was first

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Speaker 3: woman to win a rolling school glove and so yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's just all things passionate about all things women's sports, extending,

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Speaker 3: expanding women in sports and uplifted all things girls.

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Speaker 2: So that's me and yeah, love talking softball and baseball.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and we have been on kind of a sports

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Speaker 1: kick over here at Sminty so doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: conversating around women in sport and we're really excited to

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Speaker 1: have you here. And you have a podcast now called

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Speaker 1: Dropping Diamonds.

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Speaker 3: Correct, yes, yes, so podcasts called Dropping Diamonds where talk

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Speaker 3: to all things softball and baseball on the diamonds, So

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Speaker 3: you'll hear a lot of fun stuff, like you know,

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Speaker 3: you drop your gyms, but hence it is a softball

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Speaker 3: baseball diamond.

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Speaker 2: You drop in your diamonds.

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Speaker 3: So it's a lot of fun conversation, a lot of

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Speaker 3: great advice, whether it be on the field or something mental,

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Speaker 3: and being able to take that the confidence that you

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Speaker 3: can take into life onto the field, how it translates.

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Speaker 3: So it's a lot of fun being able to drop

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Speaker 3: some diamonds on the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I love that.

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Speaker 5: I love that You're like, I'm going to take these

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Speaker 5: gyms and them say diamonds, and now I'm going to

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Speaker 5: make this multi in all the ways, and then you

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Speaker 5: would do a beautiful job and truly uplifting the spirit,

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Speaker 5: like everything in your podcast, especially like when you go

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Speaker 5: through your first one explaining what you wanted to do

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Speaker 5: and how you're bringing affirmations into it, which I feel

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Speaker 5: like we've moved too quickly away from affirmations and we

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Speaker 5: need more of that, especially today. And so for that alone,

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Speaker 5: what made you think of making that as a part

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Speaker 5: of your podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would definitely say that's been ingrained in me

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Speaker 3: as an athlete my entire life. I feel like that's

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Speaker 3: what's motivating me in some of my darkest days or

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Speaker 3: some I've had injuries or moments when I would do

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Speaker 3: and feel like I was doing as well as I could.

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Speaker 3: I definitely leaned on affirmations and quotes and things like

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Speaker 3: the moments where maybe I kind of felt like I

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Speaker 3: wasn't doing my best or I could be doing better.

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Speaker 3: I'm very hard on myself, and I think a lot

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Speaker 3: of athletes can attest to that. We're just extremely critical,

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Speaker 3: overly critical at times of our performances, and so a

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Speaker 3: lot of the things that kept me going and kept

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Speaker 3: me positive. We're saying affirmations to myself and thinking of

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Speaker 3: quotes in order to prevail and continue to move forward

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Speaker 3: even in the moments which I was.

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Speaker 2: Quote unquote failing.

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Speaker 3: But you know, if you failure, as you know, opportunity

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Speaker 3: to better succeed. But I don't know that that would

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Speaker 3: on the quotes and the affirmations of those before that

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Speaker 3: have experiences, because you know, we're not no one experience

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Speaker 3: is something that only one person has ever gone through

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Speaker 3: and so being able to learn and listen to others,

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Speaker 3: It's always been.

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Speaker 3: So I wanted to be that voice for someone else

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Speaker 3: that has maybe looking for that same type of experience,

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Speaker 3: same type of motivation that I was, especially at a

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I'm gonna give you assignment right now. Right

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Speaker 5: now as a person who is obviously success in this

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Speaker 5: new to this. So at the end of this, can

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Speaker 5: you think of affirmation because it's all about me obviously,

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna give you that at the beginning of here.

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Speaker 5: So at the end, give you some time to think

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Speaker 5: and the crew of a good affirmation to end us on.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a marrin kay, I got it. I love that,

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Speaker 1: This is so great that Samantha, You're like giving giving

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Speaker 5: I know I have to, but I'm like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 4: I need I gotta take it.

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Speaker 2: Tap in the resources. Are you doing ballet? Is it

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Speaker 2: hip hop? Hip hop?

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Speaker 4: Like zoom cardio y type of thing. Yeah, okay, we

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Speaker 5: I mean, as a fellow cheerleader, I know you already. Uh,

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Speaker 3: So no, I would love to learn. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 3: I'm always open to learning. So please teach me something.

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Speaker 3: Y'all get the affirmation, and you teach me a new move.

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Speaker 5: Oh you're coming to when you come to Atlanta, we're gonna,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna, we're gonna click up and we're gonna going

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Speaker 2: I love this. This is great.

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Speaker 1: So aj you have a history of making really acrobatic

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Speaker 1: plays like the diving catch, and you're really great at

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Speaker 3: I don't mean to start from you know, the way

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Speaker 3: And I remember the very first my the beginning of

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Speaker 3: And you know, at eleven years old, I was diving

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Speaker 3: It was always like, Okay, well I want to slide

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Speaker 3: There wasn't a ball that I didn't think if I

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Speaker 3: That, from elementary school to high school to college, that

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Speaker 3: And so I went because I went to LSU to

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Speaker 2: And what's different about for professional softball is.

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Speaker 3: There's just one overall goal glove winner, so you're the

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Speaker 3: it for position, so you're, you know, the best center field,

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Speaker 3: And they have it in two separate leagues, so the

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Speaker 2: And yeah, that was That's pretty much my my story

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Speaker 3: And you know how I began to make diving catches

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Speaker 3: that was extremely extremely full circle. Yeah, full circle, And

441
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Speaker 3: she's just the best to me. I would love to

442
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Speaker 3: have like Serena Williams on, I would love to have

443
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Speaker 3: I'm actually.

444
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Speaker 2: Friend, I'm gonna get Taylor Townson to come on.

445
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Speaker 3: I know these were going beyond just softball, yere, but yeah,

446
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 3: and softball and baseball. But I just think that I've

447
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 3: had Kim ing On, who's now the commissioner, and she,

448
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 3: you know, she's the first woman to be able to

449
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: manage a MLB team, And so I think that there's

450
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Speaker 3: so many as a general manner, so many different people

451
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 3: that have been in inspirational within baseball and softball. But yeah,

452
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,119
Speaker 3: I would love to continue to talk to miss so

453
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: many other women as well. Justine's like Siegel came on,

454
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 3: who is now going to be She's one of the

455
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Speaker 3: co founders of the WPBL so the new Women's Professional

456
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Speaker 3: Baseball League.

457
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I've talked to some really dupe people outside

458
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Speaker 2: of you know.

459
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Speaker 3: Baseball and softball. There's something more I want to speak to.

460
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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna get everybody, anybody within baseball softball roles.

461
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Speaker 4: I plan to have them, plan have them on ixcited.

462
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Speaker 3: I'm working on Derek Jeter and I would love to. Yeah,

463
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 3: there's there's so many people.

464
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Speaker 1: Well, one of the things about your show that is

465
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Speaker 1: so cool is you do and and and in interviews

466
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Speaker 1: you've talked about this is like it's more than just

467
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Speaker 1: the players. It's the host, it's the managers, it's the

468
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Speaker 1: media who covers it. Like there's it's just this bigger

469
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Speaker 1: ecosystem that people might not realize and it does all matter.

470
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Speaker 3: Uh.

471
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Speaker 1: And another thing you've spoken about is how for you

472
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Speaker 1: the support of your family was so important and how

473
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Speaker 1: that helped shape where your aspirations in sport ended up going.

474
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Speaker 1: And also I thought it was interesting you have this

475
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Speaker 1: conversation about the difference between guides and goals. Can you

476
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Speaker 1: break down the importance of having support of some type

477
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Speaker 1: when you're in this type of sport, and also why

478
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Speaker 1: you think it's important to have guides as opposed to goals.

479
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, my family is always I mean, we're a

480
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 3: big sports family. Every single individual and my family is

481
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Speaker 3: an athlete. My older brother played football young Sound State.

482
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 3: I played at LSU. I have two younger sisters, one

483
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Speaker 3: that played at LSU as well, and then my youngest

484
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 3: sister played softball. Family, so, needless to say, we were

485
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 3: at a field probably like four days out of the week,

486
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Speaker 3: and so it's just been something that's kind of ingrained

487
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Speaker 3: in us, that hard work. I'm very self motivated though

488
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 3: as a young athlete, I've always wanted to be the best.

489
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 3: I always felt like I could be the best, and

490
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Speaker 3: then you know, my parents just always really supported that,

491
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 3: and they would whether they I'm this type of person

492
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 3: that likes to work hours and hours and hours and

493
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Speaker 3: hours on my craft, and my mom would be right

494
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Speaker 3: there with me, or my dad be right there with me.

495
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Speaker 3: And Yeah, I talked a little bit about how my

496
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Speaker 3: dad really told one thing that just stuck me my

497
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Speaker 3: whole life.

498
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Speaker 2: Was I wanted to win. Well, the whole story.

499
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Speaker 3: Goes he broke he one of the years he limited

500
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Speaker 3: my back to school shopping.

501
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Speaker 2: He put a budget on.

502
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Speaker 3: It was like a bigger budget than before, and I

503
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 3: was so upset and I'm like, listen, whatever money you're

504
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: saving for me for college, can we add that to

505
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Speaker 3: my budget because I'll just get a scholarship.

506
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Speaker 2: And then he's super scared. My dad's a very serious guy.

507
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 3: He's a judge, and so he's like, Okay, well, if

508
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 3: you really think that's going to happen, you have to

509
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 3: be the hardest workers. There's always going to be someone

510
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 3: that's better than you, so they'd not be anyone.

511
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Speaker 2: That works harder.

512
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Speaker 3: And in my mind, I'm at this point, I'm probably

513
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 3: like fifteen, like I just couldn't fatho. I'm like someone

514
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 3: that's better than me, I'll well know and but you know,

515
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 3: but those words they I don't know what they just

516
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 3: seep into my brain and never left. And so anytime

517
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 3: I felt like I could take a day off, that's

518
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 3: what would replay my head. Someone is working harder. Don't

519
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: let someone work harder than you. Don't let someone work

520
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 3: harder than you. It would get up and go back

521
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 3: to and go go hit. It's the same thing my

522
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Speaker 3: college coach at LSU, coach Trina, would say I was

523
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Speaker 3: probably I would, I'm confident, she would say, with one

524
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Speaker 3: of the hardest workers she's ever had, because I would

525
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 3: lay down at night after a full day as a

526
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 3: collegiate athlete and think to myself, Oh, someone in California

527
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 3: is two hours more than me. Gotta go dot field

528
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Speaker 3: and hit two more hours. Like that's really how my

529
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: brain would work. And that's all because of what my

530
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Speaker 3: dad told me, because I just want to, you know,

531
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Speaker 3: an extra one hundred dollars for back to school shopping,

532
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 3: and so, you know, I think that mentality, though, is

533
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: really what made me who I am, and they've always

534
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Speaker 3: supported that, and they've always been there for me throughout

535
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 3: the good times, bad times, the times in which I've

536
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: over critiqued and have been too hard on myself. They

537
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 3: were always the people to ub lift. I've never I

538
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 3: didn't have like the crazy parents that would yell. They're

539
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 3: always chilling in their own little section, just watching the game,

540
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 3: which is a perfect balance because my sisters and not

541
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 3: always too art on ourselves, so we were able to

542
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 3: go back and talk to them, and so yeah, they've

543
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 3: always been extremely supportive and my mentality when it comes

544
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 3: to like the guides not goals, conversation is essentially what

545
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: I really believe is that you should make people guides

546
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: rather than goals. And the reason why I believe that

547
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 3: is because if you make somebody your goal, you are

548
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: putting a cap on what it is that you could achieve,

549
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 3: like you're putting a cap on your own success. What

550
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 3: if you were supposed to do exponentially more than that person.

551
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 3: What if you're only supposed to use them as inspiration

552
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Speaker 3: not as a finish line.

553
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Speaker 2: And I think when you.

554
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Speaker 3: Make somebody a goal, you are truly saying, Okay, well

555
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: once I get here, that's all I need to do,

556
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 3: and so use people as guys. But then also if

557
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 3: use them as your goal, if you don't make it there,

558
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: then you feel like you failed. And so I think

559
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: if you use people as guys and say this is

560
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 3: how this is the avenue that I want to go down,

561
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: or you take this and pieces from what they do

562
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 3: to utilize it to help, Okay, well this is what

563
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: they did in this situation, this is how I can pivot.

564
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: I think understanding that these individuals is just like a

565
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 3: guide on if you're on a tour, right, they're showing

566
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: you around, But how you experience what you're looking at

567
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: is totally up to you. How it is that you

568
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: want to perceive it, how it is that what you

569
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: take from it, that is completely up to you. And honestly,

570
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 3: when you're going on these things the next day after

571
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 3: that guide, you may go that direction, but then shift

572
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: to a different route. And I think that's really important

573
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 3: in sports the same way it is in life to

574
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Speaker 3: utilize people as guides not goals, so that you can

575
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 3: experience beyond what you maybe imagine you could have experienced

576
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: if you use them as a goal.

577
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Speaker 4: I like that.

578
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Speaker 5: I feel like, especially when we talk about like putting

579
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 5: people on pedestals, people disappoint no matter what. No one

580
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 5: is perfect, and so having that type of mentality really

581
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 5: does like protect your heart as well in understanding that

582
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 5: you don't have to throw away their success or the

583
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 5: things that they've done that as well because of some

584
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 5: things that might come about later because it's a guide

585
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 5: and you're not like, I love that mentality.

586
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Speaker 4: It really does put a different perspective on that.

587
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 3: And I think, I mean the reason that really was

588
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 3: inspired to me, Like the first time I remember thinking

589
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: that was when Rihanna started fining beauty and it being

590
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: like this sense of there's so much conversation with certain

591
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: industries being oversaturated, and in my mind it was like, okay,

592
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: but no one is Rihanna, right, Like I think that

593
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 3: that's to me, that's really where that came from, because

594
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: it was, Yeah, these places that you may think everybody's

595
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 3: doing something, your superpower is that nobody is you though,

596
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: and so like, don't use these individuals or anything as

597
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: a goal. It may seem oversaturated because of X y Z,

598
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: but what you bring is what no one else can bring.

599
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 3: And that's why supporting to just use people as guides,

600
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 3: because again, your superpower is that no one is you,

601
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: and so what can you.

602
00:27:59,040 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: Do with that?

603
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 4: Okay I'm taking that as an affirmation as well, So

604
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 4: thank you.

605
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yes, yeah, a lot stem tell you.

606
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: Well.

607
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Speaker 1: Another thing that you have spoken about is your view

608
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Speaker 1: on failure in sports and how to reframe, how to

609
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: think about that or how we talk about that. Can

610
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: you expound on that?

611
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's a lot that I feel I've

612
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: learned from experiencing failure and playing a sport of failure

613
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: where I mean there's not many sports where you can

614
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: fail three out of ten times and still be a

615
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer other than like based on softball. And

616
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: so I mean, to that point, like any other sport

617
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: you're feeling that much, they're probably okay, well, was maybe

618
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: not the sport for you. But in softball baseball, I

619
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: know you're doing great, honey, You're doing amazing, sweetie, and baseballtball.

620
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: And so I think because of that, you know, I've

621
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: had to reframe failure being that it was inevitable, right,

622
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to meet failure more than I'm going to

623
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 3: meet success in this game, and so changing my relationship

624
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: to it and almost I call it like befriending failure,

625
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: understanding that it's kind of like that that friend that

626
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: is like that no nonsense friend that you at times

627
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: really hesitate to call, but you know you have to

628
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: tell them this, Like you know you need this conversation

629
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: and you know the feedback they're going to give you,

630
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: but nonetheless you do it anyway. And so it's kind

631
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 3: of like that I pick up the phone call. I

632
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: know I'm going to fail, I know what it's going

633
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: to be, but I know I have to have this

634
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: conversation because through that conversation is the only way I'm

635
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 3: going to learn these certain things. And so the acronym

636
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 3: fail I tell young kids all the time it is

637
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: just the first attempt in learning because within failure, right,

638
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: you have to you have to fail to first succeed.

639
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: I talk about how it's not the opposite, which we're

640
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: taught a lot of the times. Right, you either fail

641
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: or succeed versus understanding failure is the part of process

642
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: to success. And I talk about it being like steps

643
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: to where like every time you fail, you're kind of

644
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 3: adding a step to your journey, which is only leading

645
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: you higher to higher successes. Right, if you only feel

646
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: two times your success is, you know it's not that high.

647
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: Versus you fail twenty, look how far you can go.

648
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: And so I think it's kind of like you're going

649
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: through through failure knowing that you're on the opposite side

650
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: of that is going to be maybe the biggest success

651
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: that you've ever had. And I at the end of

652
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,719
Speaker 3: my podcast, I ask everybody what their favorite failure is

653
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: that's led to like their biggest successes, because it's you know,

654
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 3: you don't look at it think of it that way,

655
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 3: like my favorite failure. Huh. I don't know if I

656
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: have of my favorite time but I didn't do what

657
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Speaker 3: I want to do. But when you really reflect on it,

658
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: you think about, how, ah, well, you know what, if

659
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: I didn't fail in that one moment, this probably wouldn't

660
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: have happened. And then you go people really sit and

661
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: reflect and think, Okay, well, yes, my biggest failure is that.

662
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: And like I think to the year I won the

663
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: Gold Glove, hmm, there's so many moments in my life

664
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: in which I didn't make the catch right, I failed

665
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: to make that play. But the only reason why I

666
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: was able to win a gold Glove is because I

667
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: first failed, and that from that failure, I learned how

668
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: to take a different angle. I learned what my first

669
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: step should have been to that ball, so that one

670
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 3: time I didn't catch it turned into the three hundred

671
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: times that I did. You know. So I think that

672
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: that's that's the power of failure, and that's why in

673
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 3: life and especially in sports, you have to befriend it

674
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: in order to get where you want to go.

675
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 5: Like this is why I have a hard time with sports,

676
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 5: because my anxiety and fear of rejection in general is like,

677
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 5: I can't fail. I have to be the best of everything.

678
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 5: And because I know I'm not. I'm like, yeah, I'm good, y'all.

679
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 5: I see how hard they throw that softball.

680
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: I'm good.

681
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna let y'all have you It's true.

682
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: No, I mean it trusts me that I think as athletes,

683
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: like if I'm not immediately good at something, I gotta

684
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: go gotta blast, like pick a ball, forget about it,

685
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: like I'm not even doing it, like.

686
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 4: I picked a bride.

687
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: I'm good. Thank you, no, thank you you, and you know.

688
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: But like it's just it's that mentality when you get

689
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: to it, and but you have to so I can

690
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: consistently tell myself, okay, like this is just helping you

691
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: get better.

692
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: I guess you know, and I'm not.

693
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: It sounds good right in the conversation, But to stick

694
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: to to stick to it and to believe it and

695
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 3: to prevail even though you through that failure it is

696
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 3: harder than.

697
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: You know it sounds, and then it seems.

698
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: And that's why the success is so much better when

699
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 3: it does when you are able to see through it.

700
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: So I haven't stuck just pick a ball.

701
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: But you know, if I do decide to go back

702
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,719
Speaker 3: through it, I'm sure my success will be great at

703
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 3: the end.

704
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 4: I'm excited. I'm a white but I see that as

705
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 4: a mini series coming up.

706
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: I see it.

707
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 5: I know you've gone viral a few times on TikTok.

708
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 5: I saw that costume, but.

709
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: It's the most random things that go viral, Like I

710
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: would have never thought that would have been girl.

711
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 5: It wasn't random when I watched Okay, I see you

712
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 5: why but like all of your stuff was hitting it.

713
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 4: But I was like, oh, she's she's got choreography.

714
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: She got I did get for all twenty minutes of that.

715
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: I loved it.

716
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 5: But you know, you talk about success in general, and

717
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 5: there's so much like in this type of field, in

718
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 5: competition and sports in general, and especially when you come

719
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 5: as a public figure. Obviously you've become a public figure

720
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 5: and influence for so many. You know, talked about the

721
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 5: importance of being vocal about success as a woman and

722
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 5: having perseverance and resilience, and particularly a woman of color,

723
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 5: especially today, but like talking about how your own influences

724
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 5: seeing a black woman for the first time, that representation

725
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 5: and how that changed your perspective. Why do you think

726
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 5: that it's so important to have that vocal success being

727
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 5: out there.

728
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think There's there's so much to be said

729
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: about representation and what it does to the psyche and

730
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: what it does to individuals that are able to see

731
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: themselves in these spaces. I mean, I feel like beyond

732
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: just myself in softball and seeing a black woman in

733
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: the game with it really allowing me to see myself

734
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 3: on teeth, like I literally saw her and saw myself.

735
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm still sitting in this is post my game,

736
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 3: so I'm still sitting in my uniform in Little League

737
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 3: and I'm watching her in her UCLA uniform. I'm just like, Oh.

738
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: I mean, from that moment, Ucla was my favorite school.

739
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: I wanted to go to UCLA. I still have this

740
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 3: big old letterman jacket I made my parents buy me

741
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: when I was, you know, fourteen years old because I

742
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 3: love Ucla so much.

743
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: I loved Ucla for no other reason than.

744
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: Tasha Wally and you know what I mean. And I

745
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 3: feel like that's that's the power of it. And I

746
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 3: think in at LSU, there's so many times in which

747
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 3: these young girls I'm their favorite player and it had

748
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: nothing to do with my stats, that had nothing to

749
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 3: do with the play I made, and had everything to

750
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: do with no, we're the same number, or you were

751
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: your hair the same way as me, or you know

752
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: what I mean, or you look like me, or I

753
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: like to run bases just like you. These very small

754
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 3: things that as an ass lee because we feel like

755
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 3: we have to be the best in order for someone

756
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: to like us.

757
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: It doesn't always make sense. And then you have these

758
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: conversations with these young girls and you're like, it's the

759
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: smallest thing that they feel like they can identify with

760
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: that makes them feel like they can be the biggest

761
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: and the best. And you know, it's the.

762
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: Same thing in which I talk about, like the Bad

763
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 3: Bunny performing a Super Bowl. I watched all the videos

764
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: of Latinos watching that and crying and feeling so represented,

765
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: how the excitement they had when you called out their

766
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: country at the end.

767
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: And for me, because I feel like representation is.

768
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 3: So important on all aspects for everyone, race, gender, any

769
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: diaspeta you want to put out there, you know, for me,

770
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 3: I think it's just so powerful in one moment twenty seconds,

771
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 3: how the impact it can have on humans and how

772
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 3: it can literally change your mind to what you feel

773
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: like you can do and achieve and where you think

774
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: you can go and because it is so poignant at

775
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: That's why I feel like it's so important to have

776
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 3: those conversations. It's so important to just show up, like

777
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: you know, you don't always have to have the biggest

778
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 3: voice or have the biggest performance, but your presence, oftentimes

779
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: and not is making the biggest difference to those individuals

780
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: that didn't even see themselves in those spaces prior to

781
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: seeing you. And so that's why I think representation is

782
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: huge because it sparks new goals. Would there be a

783
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: new goal lover if I had sat in that beefl

784
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: Brady's at twelve years old watching Natasha Wali, you know,

785
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: we never know would there be this new line of

786
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: women wanting to play in the WBAF it was not

787
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: for Lisa Leslie, if it was not for the Caitlin Clarks,

788
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: if it was not for the Angel Reese's. You know,

789
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: I feel like there's just so many different people that

790
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: really align with hockey, you know, feel like they can

791
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: win a gold medal.

792
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.

793
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 3: I just think there's so much to be said for

794
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: a woman that just shows up and the power behind

795
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: that because women we like supporting women.

796
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: So if you show up.

797
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 3: We're going to amplify you as much as we possibly

798
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 3: can to make sure the world knows who you are.

799
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: If they hadn't already. Absolutely.

800
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, And you've already touched on this a little bit

801
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 6: and it's a huge topic.

802
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: So we're asking a big question about You've talked about

803
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: women in pay equity and investing in women's sports, but

804
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: also respect and media exposure support all of that. Can

805
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: you briefly share your thoughts on that, because again, I

806
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: know it's a huge topic, Coure.

807
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like, you know, when it comes

808
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: down to it, it just it comes down to the advertising dollars,

809
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: and it comes down to the brand partnerships and the

810
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: brands getting behind these women in sports. I think networks

811
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: are starting to really understand and get on the curve.

812
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 3: I mean, ESPN has now as a partnership with AUSL

813
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: Women's Professional Softball League right now. MLB has also had

814
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: backing with not just monetaryous but also putting on social media,

815
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: also putting on the network. There's a lot of different

816
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 3: networks that are now I feel like kind of jumping

817
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 3: on the curb. People call it a trend, but I

818
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 3: hate the we're trend of women in sports, I feel

819
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: like now people are just starting to take notice of

820
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 3: what was always amazing and what was always there. And

821
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 3: so I feel like when it comes down to it,

822
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: women women for most sports make up half the viewership.

823
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: Over the last five years, I believe it's gone up.

824
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: There's I think about seventy percent of women in the

825
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: in the United States watch sports, and over the last

826
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 3: five years it's gone up fifty percent. As far as

827
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: the women that are sitting down and watching sports and

828
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: have they know who they're rooting for, know what they

829
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 3: want to do. Even just this past Super Bowl, you

830
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 3: know how people did not care who was playing, but

831
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: they're rooting for the Seahawks because the owner was a

832
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 3: woman like you know, like you There's just so much

833
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: behind the women in advertising and marketing to women. It

834
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 3: is such a missed opportunity in my opinion, for advertisers

835
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 3: and for brands.

836
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 2: Women buy all the things for the household.

837
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: Women are the ones that are you know, they have

838
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: the they go out, and they do the most supporting

839
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: When it comes down to it, I think it said

840
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 3: it's like I don't know the exact statistics, but brands

841
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 3: at back women's sports.

842
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: They have a higher amount or higher percentage of women

843
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: going out and buying their product just solely because they've

844
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: announced that they support these women. And so for me,

845
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: I feel like it's just such a missed.

846
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: Opportunity, not only because women in sports are exciting, they're powerful,

847
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 3: they are they build revenue. It's this is not they're

848
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 3: now revenue making sports all across the all across every sport,

849
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: but because it's gonna make you a lot of money, Like,

850
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 3: why wouldn't you support women?

851
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: To me, it just seems stupid at this point to

852
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: not support women in sports.

853
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: And so I don't know, I feel like that is

854
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 3: that's it's gotten better, but it's still not where it

855
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: should be or could be. And so I think but

856
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: to our port earlier, having those conversations making it notable

857
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: and making it something that people are more aware of.

858
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: I mean even just now with with the women's hockey team,

859
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: that just one gold flavor for them going to go

860
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: to Vegas with Flavor FLA. But all these brands that

861
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: jumped on to help support do you know how I'm looking.

862
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: At every single one of them? Okay, what can I

863
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: buy from you? What can I buy from you can.

864
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: I like, that's that.

865
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: Is truly what women do and one thing for us,

866
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 3: we're going to be influenced, Like anytime those ads. I

867
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 3: keep telling you how many pieces of clothing I have

868
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: just from an ad that popped up on Instagram. So

869
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: like to that point, put it towards women in sports,

870
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: and I feel like the more we do that, as

871
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 3: we continue to push for equity, as we continue to

872
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 3: push for more equality not just in the workplace, but

873
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: within the facilities, within the travel, within money, I feel

874
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: like a lot of that will happen as soon as

875
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Speaker 3: we see a little bit more advertising dollars.

876
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Speaker 2: And it's just it's just a smart thing to do.

877
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 5: Like we talk about that all the time, like do

878
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Speaker 5: you understand, Like some companies do understand, but not to

879
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Speaker 5: their advantage. They do like pick and choose how they're

880
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 5: going to do this, and then when people are women

881
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 5: become aware of like, oh, you're trying to gas light

882
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Speaker 5: us into this, We're not like falling backwards, like Target

883
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Speaker 5: being one.

884
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Speaker 4: Of those big ones.

885
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Speaker 5: But anyway, moving on, but also a side note, did

886
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 5: you notice like the women's hockey team got to get

887
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Speaker 5: eat with Stanley Tucci while the men's team ate McDonald's.

888
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Speaker 3: You know, anything that they do, it's gonna be substantially

889
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Speaker 3: better than the men's.

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Speaker 4: I was like, have you seen Stanley Tucci cook?

891
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Speaker 2: He is good?

892
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, let's hang out with him anyway.

893
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

894
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: No, what a not a hot mess express that turned

895
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Speaker 2: out to be.

896
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Speaker 5: But it kind of goes to a test to what

897
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Speaker 5: you're saying in general, like the power of what happens

898
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 5: when people are really supportive and understand instead of trying

899
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 5: to cut down on what could be great for you,

900
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Speaker 5: Like what could have changed in conversation for whether it's

901
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 5: for a brand or whether it's for a public figure,

902
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 5: like what that looks like Like Flavor flav the last

903
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 5: two Olympics has really made a name for himself because

904
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 5: he loves women's sports. He is all about that, and

905
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 5: it's it was so unexpected when I first saw it,

906
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Speaker 5: But I'm like, oh my god, you see him as

907
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Speaker 5: a person who truly understands the value.

908
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Speaker 3: No, yeah, Now it's like, I mean, I'm a well

909
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 3: I was, you know, old enough to watch Flavor of Love,

910
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Speaker 3: and you know, I didn't get it at that point

911
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: at that time, but now I get it.

912
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Speaker 2: I get all those girls loved him. Oh my god.

913
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Speaker 7: API in your conversation here, I was very much tuned

914
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Speaker 7: in as a you know, you're young to be watching

915
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Speaker 7: high school at the time, but.

916
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Speaker 2: I loved it. That was primetime reality TV.

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Speaker 5: That was some of those things that come back round

918
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Speaker 5: from those episodes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, amazing, amazing.

920
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, But no, to your point, like, as we talked

921
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: about earlier, you know about how people laughing at the

922
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: joke quote unquote right ten years ago, the most prevalent

923
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: thing you would see time a woman was successful and

924
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: something was get back in the kitchen Mega say. You

925
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: know that's ugh, Like I call them couch coaches. You

926
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 3: don't see that anymore, and if you do see it,

927
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: they're getting fired on, like it's not cool to be

928
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: corny anymore. It's not cool to make those those statements anymore,

929
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 3: like support women's sports or move along, you know, And

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Speaker 3: so I think that that's that is again what we're

931
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Speaker 3: seeing as far as the movement, And then you have

932
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Speaker 3: Flavor Flave coming on. You have other individuals supporting these

933
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: women in sports, which is I think is so cool. Yeah,

934
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: he's he did what swimming previous summer and then this

935
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: year for Bob said, and skeleton, so I think that

936
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 3: that's he's just killing it. And then just all women

937
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: in sports. He's at every every event for the Olympics,

938
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Speaker 3: so it's helped.

939
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Speaker 5: With table tennis, he supported an American woman athlete to

940
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Speaker 5: get to it because she was having like she wasn't

941
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Speaker 5: getting as many sponsorships, and he was like, I got you,

942
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Speaker 5: I got you.

943
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Speaker 3: No, the backing has been amazing because I know a

944
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: lot of people don't realize this, but like Olympic athletes

945
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: don't unless they have a lot of sponsorships. They have

946
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: to figure out how to get where they have to

947
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 3: go to to pay.

948
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Speaker 2: For these certain things. They don't get paid well at all.

949
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 3: So I think it's really amazing when all these different

950
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 3: individuals step up to help support.

951
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Speaker 1: Yes, and you've already talked about it before. Our final

952
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: question before we get into the affirmation has asked, what

953
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: is something that you are really excited about for the

954
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: future of women in sport and what if something that

955
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: you are excited about in your own future that you're

956
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: looking for too.

957
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: I'm excited about for women in sports for it just

958
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: to continue to get bigger and bigger. I think in

959
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 3: the future there's so many new leagues that have started,

960
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: whether it be volleyball, whether it be hockey, whether it

961
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: be additional teams for soccer, additional teams in the WNBA,

962
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: and new leagues with unrivaled aus Sel expanding and having

963
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: more teams. I mean, I feel like year after year,

964
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 3: within the last three to five years, women's sports has

965
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: only continued to expand. And the notoriety and the recognition,

966
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: which is something that I feel like we've been starved

967
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: of for a majority of our careers as athletes.

968
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: We're starting to get fed a little bit more now.

969
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 3: We can still have, like you know, we're still working

970
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 3: for the steak dinners, but we're definitely getting a lot

971
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: more than what we were getting prior. And I think that

972
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 3: that is I think it's only going to continue to

973
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 3: get bigger. I think if people continue to the growth

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00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: of women in sports has been exponential within I can

975
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 3: speak to to softball. College softball this past year had

976
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: more viewership ever in the Women's College World Series. I

977
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 3: think two point two million people for the finals, which

978
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 3: is the most, and one point three million over the

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00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: entire series, which is the most for that stand. There's

980
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 3: been years in the past where the women's College World

981
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: Series had more viewership than the men's World Series. And

982
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 3: it's just a trend that only continues to get bigger

983
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 3: and better. And that's now transcended over into the AUSL,

984
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 3: which last year had eighty eight percent growth in viewership.

985
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 3: And so I just see that only going up as

986
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: more leagues continue to grow, as more networks continue to support,

987
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: as more brands continue to see the value, as more

988
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: women continue to use their voice. And I'm just so

989
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 3: excited where where women's sports could go. Because in college,

990
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 3: I did my thesis, my college thesis on women in sports,

991
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: and I went to a softball baseball field and I

992
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 3: asked eight young boys what they want to be when

993
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 3: they grew up. All of them said either professional baseball

994
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 3: player or a baseball coach. And I asked the same

995
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: thing with the young girls. Eight young girls, all of

996
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 3: them teacher, doctor, nurse.

997
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: Only one of them.

998
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: Only one said, well, I thought about maybe wanting to

999
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 3: be a professional softball player, but I don't know if

1000
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: it's possible.

1001
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: Those are her exact words.

1002
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: And I believe if I were to go back today

1003
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 3: and do that same same experiment, eight young girls, eight

1004
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: young boys, I believe I would just have just as

1005
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: much young girls saying they want to be professional softball

1006
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 3: players as I would have a young boys saying they

1007
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 3: want to professional baseball players.

1008
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: And to me that that is that's the goal.

1009
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 3: That's what I hope continues to happen to where there's

1010
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 3: at hesitation of young girls saying I want to be this,

1011
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 3: I can be this. They say it with conviction, they

1012
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: say it with confidence because they know it's possible, because

1013
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 3: they see it on TV. They're able to see themselves

1014
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 3: in these amazing women. And then for myself, I would

1015
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 3: say I want to continue to be a voice for

1016
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 3: those those young girls and just for women in general,

1017
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: young girls, women, for men, I mean, an inspiration to

1018
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: whomever it feels like they identify with. Whatever it does,

1019
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 3: I have to say, whatever is I have to do,

1020
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: and whether I am amplifying those voices on the field

1021
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: or I'm amplifying it from a studio talking about these

1022
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 3: women in sports on television, that is that's my goal,

1023
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: and that's what I hope to continue.

1024
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 2: To do in the future.

1025
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: Yes, and we hope that you do as well. It's

1026
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: so important to all the conversations you are having, all.

1027
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 4: Right in where we got I'm so exciting.

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00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 3: Okay in regards to dancing, but making it but make

1029
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 3: it about life.

1030
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: Okay.

1031
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: The best move is always the next I'm going to

1032
00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 3: dance left to right. Success is my biggest flex. That's Oh,

1033
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: I'm so glad this is recorded. I'm gonna play that

1034
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: back myself.

1035
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: I'm a truly astounded. That's amazing.

1036
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: Love it.

1037
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 2: That's our affirmation.

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00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 3: Next time you go to your dance, the best move

1039
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: is always the next.

1040
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna dance that. To write, success is my biggest thing.

1041
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, you know what, I'm gonna put that at

1042
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 5: the beginning of my sessions so everybody can hear it.

1043
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put it in there. I'm gonna put it

1044
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 4: in there.

1045
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 2: Wow. That was fantastic.

1046
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on the show. You

1047
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: have been into light. We would love to have you back.

1048
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: There's plenty we didn't even get to talk about.

1049
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: I know, but so many things.

1050
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: So many things. I want to know what it's like

1051
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: to be a sports host on like ESPN. But in

1052
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: the meantime, where can the good listeners find you a

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Speaker 1: j Yeah, well.

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Speaker 3: You guys could definitely find me on dropping diamonds podcasts

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Speaker 3: I Heart, but really anywhere get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: You can listen to it.

1058
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Speaker 3: And then you can also find me on socials, AJ Underscore,

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Speaker 3: Andrew's Underscore, Instagram and Twitter. And then if you're on TikTok,

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Speaker 3: it's the AJ Andrews So excited to drop some diamonds

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Speaker 3: all year wrong, all twenty six Yes and because.

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Speaker 2: My best move is always the next.

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00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, well, thank you, thank you, thank you

1064
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: so much for being here. Thank you guys for having me.

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