1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Wednesday edition of The Klay Travis en Buck 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Sexton Show kicks off right now. Thanks for being with us. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 2: A bunch of things to get to today and looking 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: forward to talking to you about all of them. We've 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 2: got the Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, will be with. 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: Us in the second half of a program talking to 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: us about the border. The Biden executive order at the border, 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: which is not going to have the well not going 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: to have the effect of securing things. Really, the intended effect, 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: I think is up for debate. I don't think Democrats 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: really want the border to be secure, of course, In fact, 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: I know they don't want it to be secure. So 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 1: but we'll discuss the on the ground truth about our 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: biggest border state and what they are seeing in Texas 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: with Governor Abbot coming up in a bit. Also our 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: friend from Fox News, Pete Hegseth. These veterans got a 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: great new book out. He'll be with us third hour 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: talking about veterans, shoes, the military, some great stuff there. 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: Pete's a friend of ours for a long time. And 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: we've got let me see what else in the mix. 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: We got border New York City, Clay backing off the 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: governor Hokeel backing off, I should say the New York 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: City proposal to tax everybody for congestion pricing, right or 24 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: just to pay this toll, this fee. I really worked 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: this out. 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: If I was traveling in New York City from where 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 2: my parents used to live to our studio in Midtown, 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: I would have triggered the twelve dollars fee for driving. 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean that's even if you live within the city 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: and work with it. Did you ever drive? I mean 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: that's neither here nor there, but yes, yes, I would neither. 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: On the scooter right Wow, scooter, he's going to the 33 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: scooter right now. It's not just that you with a 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: scarf on the scooter whipping around the city until your 35 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: scooter was stolen. I don't think that. I mean, is 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: there a scooter congestion fee or you exempt as a 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,639 Speaker 1: scooting person? 38 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 2: I think if you scoot, you get to scoot around 39 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: the fee. I was sad though I looked into it. 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: There is no sidecar on the scooter for ginger, because 41 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: I always thought that would be fun. You know, I 42 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: could put a little goggles on her, like a little Uh. 43 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: Did you have a woman? I hope you never had 44 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: a man, although that maybe make you a Democrat politician 45 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: elect immediately holding you by the arm, like holding like 46 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: your waist or whatever on the back of your scooter. 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: Did you at any point take a woman on a 48 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: scooter trip? Was this a common occurrence? We have important 49 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: news to get to about a front page story in 50 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: the Wall Street General play you get to. But I 51 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: think your trust worthiness has been called into question here 52 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: because you're you're talking about the surge pricing in New 53 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: York City, and we have to remind everybody that you 54 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: actually rode a scooter, not a car in New York. 55 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: Since says I'm trying to get to the news everybody, 56 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: I we got, you know, five hundred stations across the country. 57 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: Clay wants to dive into this. I'll just say this, 58 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: and then we have to leave it there because we 59 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: have a big story about I convenient there. I may 60 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: I may have offered a female acquaintance some years ago 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: a ride on my scooter, not thinking about the weight 62 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: issues that this would Yeah, and we proceeded to scoot. 63 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: I kid you not at about zero point seventy five 64 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: miles an hour. 65 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: You would have been better off walking. Oh it was 66 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: slower than walking. It was like the scooter was the 67 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: little engine that couldn't and it was trying to pull 68 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: the two of us along. And then of course I 69 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: had to say I'm the heavy, you know, and it's 70 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: I got very embarrassing. This is years ago. 71 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: So no, you cannot double up on your e scooter. 72 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: Back to the news, mister, yes, back to the news 73 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: front page of the Wall Street Journal. We have behind 74 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: closed doors Biden shows signs of slipping participants in meetings 75 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: that the eighty one year old president performed poorly at times. 76 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: The White House said, Biden is sharp and his critics 77 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: are playing at partisan politics. Yeah, of course that's what 78 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: they're gonna say. Let's start with this before we get 79 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: into the effect of the article, meaning the implications that 80 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: there are any politically. This is the big, big piece 81 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: in the Wall Street Journal. It's a long piece, lots 82 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: of anecdotes. What struck you the most when it comes 83 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: to this piece because there's some details involving the classified 84 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: information stuff, involving various specific meetings Biden has had long 85 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: story short, the guys haven't senior moments all over the place. 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 2: But what hits you the most? 87 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: What hits me the most is nothing in this story 88 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: told us anything that we couldn't see outside of closed doors. 89 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: What I have been waiting for and when I got 90 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: the notification on my phone, because I've talked about this before, 91 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: I love the Wall Street Journal. If you had to 92 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: this is my endorsement. They don't pay me anything for this. 93 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: If you had to only subscribe to one national news 94 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: source in America, to me, the Wall Street Journal is 95 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: the choice, and there's not a close second, because I 96 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: think they're reporting is the most honest. I think it's 97 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: the most direct to me. It also tends to be 98 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: the least sensational in the context of I would rather 99 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: look at things through a business perspective of logic and 100 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: rationality as opposed to and oh my goodness, can you 101 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: believe what the latest outrage is that some viral video. 102 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: So I say all that for this reason, I expected 103 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: more when I got the headline story, because I've talked 104 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: about this for a while on this show. I've said, 105 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: you'll know the damn's breaking against Biden when suddenly there 106 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: are behind closed door stories. The behind closed door stories 107 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: to me, were no worse than what we see outside 108 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: of the closed doors, and to me, I've talked about 109 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: this for a long time. We only see Biden for 110 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: five percent of the day at most. It's probably too high. 111 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: Ninety five percent of what he does is behind closed doors. 112 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: I expected for it to make him look far worse. Instead, 113 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: it basically made him look essentially the same that we 114 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: already knew he did. I see, I see this. 115 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: I think along the same lines as Uclay. If, if 116 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: the Trump camp, if the Republicans generally expect that Biden's 117 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: obvious decline and apparent sinility will deliver the twenty twenty 118 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 2: four election, we have another thing coming. We're going to 119 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: be very disappointed. It's not enough. I'm not saying it 120 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's certainly valid, but it is essentially baked 121 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: in now to the point you're making, unless the Wall 122 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: Street Journal had Biden at length, you know, talking to 123 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: quote Abraham Lincoln about what they're going to do, you know, 124 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: unless they had him completely scrambled eggs. Wait, look that 125 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: can you get to that age? 126 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: This can happen. 127 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I've been around this with a family member before, 128 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: where they start having conversations about people that aren't around 129 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 2: anymore or things, you know, if they had that with 130 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: Joe Biden, maybe it would, but him being forgetful or 131 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: the wrong name or whatever, and you got to remember, 132 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: and I know the polling already shows so we don't 133 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: need to belabor this too much that everyone kind of 134 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: recognizes Trump is sharper than Biden. Right, however, he's old, 135 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: he is. Trump is also old. Okay, he's old for 136 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: a president. 137 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: So the impact of Biden versus Trump when it comes 138 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: to the age issue isn't as powerful as it would 139 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: otherwise be. That's just another place where we are in 140 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: this race. You could say Trump is sharp as attack. 141 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: I think actually someone said that recently today, and I 142 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: think he is sharp as attack. But you know, he's older, 143 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: and people can have strokes, they can have coronary incidents, 144 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: they can have things that happen at that age, and 145 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: it's not a surprise it's aging. So this article isn't 146 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: a knockout punch at all. And if anything, I think 147 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: it's gonna show people, Yeah, we know this. We kind 148 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: of knew this before, and it hasn't gotten so much 149 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: worse that I think it will make much of a difference. 150 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: Oh, I thought significant. While you're talking to Mitt Romney 151 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: and Kevin McCarthy, and I believe the Wall Street Journal 152 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: piece said they talked to forty five different people who 153 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: had been involved in meetings. They said in there that 154 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: the White House was aggressively reaching out to any Democrat 155 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: that the Wall Street Journal was talking to, basically saying, 156 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: wrapping them on the knuckles, letting them know, Hey, you've 157 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: got to say that Biden is crisp, that he's an 158 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: incredible leader, that his energy is unbelievable, all of the 159 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: comments that we have seen happen before. What I have 160 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: been waiting for is not this article. I hoped it 161 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: was when I saw my alert come in on my 162 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: phone and I read it last night. What I've been 163 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: waiting for is Democrats to come out and say, hey, 164 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: he's a mess, even privately, even anonymously. This article didn't 165 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: really have that. I'll also point out, and I said 166 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: this to you off air, I thought even the Republican 167 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: Anne notes from the Kevin McCarthy's and the Mitt Romneys 168 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: of the world. My speaker Mike Johnson is referenced here too. 169 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: They talked about Biden's failures. Mentally. There was no oh 170 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: my gosh moment where Mitt Romney said, I was on 171 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: the phone with him and he thought he was talking 172 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: to Ted Kennedy or Mike Johnson is with him and 173 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: he says, hey, I was the Speaker of the House 174 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: and he thought he was talking to John Bayner. There 175 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: was no moment where you're getting confused about who you're 176 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: talking to, or an anecdote that to me was a 177 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, sort of an intake of breath, Oh my 178 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: goodness moment. In fact, I think Biden's public failures when 179 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 1: he says, hey, Jackie, where are you to a dead 180 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: congress person, When he tries to say hi to the 181 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: hostage in Israel and says, oh, he's here with us. Actually, sorry, 182 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: he's actually you know, when he reads end quote on 183 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: the on the teleprompter or go get him. Those are 184 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: all more devastating than anything I thought it was in 185 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: this article. It's significant that it was written, but I 186 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: don't think it landed any significant body blow. 187 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 2: No, and I think we should be very clear eyed 188 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: and full hearted. No clear eyes. I don't know how 189 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: your hearts can't lose. Yeah, I don't know how many 190 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: of your Friday Night Lights fans. It's a great show, 191 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: great book, But I think we need to be clear 192 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 2: out about what's going to really move the needle here, 193 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: what's going to make a difference in the Biden Trump 194 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: showdown that we are are seeing, and Biden on the 195 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: issue of his age, I just don't see it. It's 196 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: you know, I think that's what's in part why he's 197 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: been behind in so many of the polls. I think 198 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 2: that there is a recognition, but I don't think that 199 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: that's going to be something that increases dramatically. I think 200 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: on this border issue, which we're going to dive into 201 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: a whole lot more. And as I said, we've got 202 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: Governor Abbott joining us from Texas to talk about what 203 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: he's really seeing and what this order will and will 204 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: not do, because I think clarity on this is so important. 205 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: I think Biden has real weakness on this that could 206 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: be a difference maker. And it's worth reminding everyone that 207 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 2: Trump won in twenty sixteen not just the general election, 208 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: but largely the primary as well because of how he 209 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: spoke about and how he energized the base on the 210 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: issue of the legal immigration, the wall, the US Mexico border. 211 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 2: Biden is the worst on this I've ever seen these 212 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: He is far worse than Obama was by the numbers, 213 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: not even close, far worse than Obama was. Think about that, right, 214 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, people think about what a left 215 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: wing president Obama was and all this stuff on the 216 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: issue of immigration, it's not even close. Biden is. He's 217 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 2: the worst in our lifetime. And just one other note, Clay, 218 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 2: I think that Biden has done the fewest press availabilities 219 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: of anyone in forty years. 220 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: Is that right? Yes? 221 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're clearly not showing up very much because they 222 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: understand it's not a good look. 223 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a graphic about his interviews and press availabilities 224 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: and they're off the charts bad. I mean, they wanted 225 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: to put the twenty fifth Amendment on Trump, and he 226 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: did even more media than basically any president has in 227 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: any of our lives. And I believe they said that 228 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: Biden hasn't done a full long form question and answer 229 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: session for an interview, and I mean really long form 230 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: with like the New York Times or the Washington Posts, 231 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: which are basically state sponsored media, since October of twenty one, 232 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: which is pretty unbelievable to contemplate. Now, he did just 233 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: d Time Magazine, where there were lots of screw ups 234 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: in that one. He's already having to walk back what 235 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: he said about net and Yahoo in Israel. He said 236 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: he could beat up the interviewer. He still doesn't seem 237 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: to either he's intentionally lying or he doesn't understand the 238 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: impact of inflation added up over multiple years. All of 239 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: this plus maybe a little bit in the second hour, 240 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: there's a Wall Street Journal story on the classified docs 241 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: that is on the front page of today's newspaper print 242 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: that I think is devastating to Biden that nobody's talking about. 243 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: We'll dive into that some in the second hour, as 244 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: well as you mentioned Governor Greg Abbot of Texas, as 245 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: well as Pete Hegseth from Fox News, we got a 246 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: bunch to dive into throughout the course of this program. 247 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: You know, there are some advantages to life of government service, 248 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 2: and one of them you may not know about is 249 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: being a member of gov X. 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Find them on the 276 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 277 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: We talked about a Wall Street Journal about behind closed Doors. 278 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: Biden is slipping that story that got a lot of attention, 279 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: but I actually think it buried the more consequential story. 280 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: And yes, I am an old man. I read the 281 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: print newspapers every morning. And I got to tell you 282 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: the only negative thing buck I can say about the 283 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: Florida Gulf Coast, the area where I uh spent try 284 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: to spend as much time as I can, the Rosemary 285 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: Beach Alice Beach area. They no longer deliver newspapers on 286 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: that entire area of the Florida Gulf Coast. And I 287 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: got a notice that Saturday they will no longer deliver 288 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: newspapers to my house here in Nashville, And it's got 289 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: me worried. And I don't know how many other people 290 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: out there still enjoy walking out and getting a physical 291 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: copy of the newspaper every morning. And I'm forty five, 292 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: and I well understand that I am basically the only 293 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: person who still gets print newspapers every time I get 294 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: on an airplane, I'm terrified of getting stuck on the 295 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: airplane and not having anything to read. I'll go on 296 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: with like six or seven newspapers just stacked up. You 297 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: ever see me? And yes, I still fly Southwest Airlines. 298 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: You ever see me? I try to sit in the 299 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: front row so I can get off as fast as possible. 300 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: You ever board a Southwest Airlines flight that I'm on, 301 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: They're probably You're probably gonna see me with a stack 302 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,359 Speaker 1: of like six or eight newspapers, and the flight attendants 303 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: it's like they don't even know what to do with 304 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: the newspapers. I'm always the only person with them. I 305 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: bring this up because I still enjoy seeing how stories 306 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: are placed prominently, what do editors think? And I also 307 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: like the serendipity of seeing stories that I might not 308 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: otherwise find. If I'm only being fed from an algorithm, 309 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: what the algorithm thinks I want to be to see. 310 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: So I don't know if anybody else is even talking 311 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: about this, but I texted it to you Buck this 312 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: morning an alley our production staff. I want to read 313 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: it to everybody because I don't know if you're going 314 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: to hear this about hear this from anybody else. I 315 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: think this is a huge story. This is the front 316 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: page of the Wall Street Journal today. This is the 317 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: open last summer. A small group gathered around the mahogany 318 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: table in Attorney General Merrick Garland's conference room. The table 319 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: can seat twenty, but only a few were there that day. 320 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: Given the sensitivity of the meeting. Special Counsel Robert Herr, 321 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: sitting across from Garland, pulled papers out of a folder 322 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: and read aloud. They were excerpts of a transcript of 323 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: a recording his team had found of President Biden speaking 324 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: to his ghostwriter in twenty seventeen, shortly after he was 325 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: no longer Vice president. Quote this is in an audio file. 326 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: I just found all the classified stuff downstairs, her said, 327 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: without inflection, repeating Biden's words, according to people briefed on 328 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: the meeting. As the group set, stunned at the prospect 329 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: that the president knew he had classified information and was 330 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: on tape discussing it with someone not authorized to receive it, 331 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: Garland asked more questions. Did the ghostwriter have a lawyer? 332 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: Is he being cooperative? What comes next? Holy crap? Biden 333 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: is on tape admitting that he had classified documents and 334 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: bragging to his ghostwriter that he knew he had him 335 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: he was not president at the time. There's no argument 336 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: that he could declassify them or that he was entitled 337 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: to be in possession of these documents to me, and 338 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: I know we need to get Julie Kelly on because 339 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear what she has to say about this. 340 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: At a minimum, if you knew you had classified documents 341 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: and you were Joe Biden, can you imagine trying to 342 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: politicize Trump having them? And how in the world does 343 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: Jack Smith still have classified documents in indictments and cases 344 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: that he's pursuing against Trump. This is crazy. It should 345 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: be tossed out immediately. Anyone with a functional should be 346 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: all over this. The two standards is the point. That's 347 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: the problem, and this is why we're entering a new 348 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: era in our legal system. I think some people have 349 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: already said we're in a post constitutional era and have 350 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: been for a while, but we are now going beyond 351 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: a rule of law to a rule of partisans era, 352 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: I think, and this is what's so frightening about what 353 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: they're doing to Trump the people. Clay ultimately, who if 354 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: you presented them with what you just laid out, who 355 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: still think Trump should be prosecuted and maybe even imprisoned 356 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: and think that by and shouldn't they're real The reality 357 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: is they just think it's because Trump is bad and 358 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: Biden is good. And this is now. 359 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 2: Throughout our entire this is through our entire legal system 360 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 2: in a whole range of ways. I like this person, 361 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: I don't like that person, so the law is different 362 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: for them. This is all over the place. It's true 363 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: with the way that we view we've been treating. 364 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: Race under the law. You know, what's a hate crime, 365 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: what's not? Or hate crimes possible against white people? What's 366 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: the for interaction? There have been all these. 367 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: Changes in the notion that there's one set of laws 368 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: for everyone and have to be we all have to 369 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: be held accountable to it. Politically, this is bent and 370 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: we've talked about the law fair well every day now, 371 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 2: but for the last last hour we were talking about it. 372 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: They've been building up to this moment in time. Let 373 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 2: me just say I had a TSSEC eye clearance. I 374 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: understand what the official statutes say about these matters and 375 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: the way that people are treated in these matters. I 376 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: know people who have been the subject of classified information 377 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: investigations personally, it is really not fun for them. Let 378 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: me ask you this question specifically about this. 379 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. If you you're writing a book right now, Yeah, 380 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: book's going to be out spring, courage all of you 381 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: as soon as you can go by it. It's gonna 382 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: be amazing. Make sure you don't miss it. 383 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck, we should have our tagline we actually 384 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 2: write our books. It is true, we actually write our books. 385 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 2: I want to just ask you this because you're talking 386 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: about the experience. But I want to put you in 387 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: this scenario if as part of writing your book, because 388 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: that's what Biden was doing, That's why he was talking 389 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: to this ghostwriter. 390 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: If you were on tape saying, hey, I found all 391 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: those classified documents that I was looking for, which is 392 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: what Biden is on tape saying to someone that you 393 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: were your editor and they got that based on what 394 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: you did. What do you think the government would do 395 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: to you personally or anyone else. If you were on 396 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: tape writing a book, which you're doing, bragging about the 397 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: fact that you found classified documents that you were going 398 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: to use in the book. 399 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I would be trying to avoid felony prosecution, 400 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 2: and I would know that I'd probably have to go 401 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: in and try to work out some kind of a deal. 402 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll tell you this, I almost don't know 403 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 2: how that scenario plays out. Usually classified information prosecutions involve 404 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: or we're talking about handling of documents, involve carelessness, recklessness. 405 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: I didn't know, right, I mean, this is I didn't 406 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: know that that was classified. Oh I said that, but 407 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was a thing I couldn't say. 408 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: And you get into this gray area, and it is 409 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: a gray area to'd be clear when that's happening. When 410 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: you say I have in my possession, outside of a 411 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: secure facility, marked classified documents, and I'm he sent them 412 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: to people, right, I mean, and I'm distributing into people's jocks. Yeah, 413 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 2: I just found all the classified stuff downstairs on tape. 414 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you would be Look, you could, you 415 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: could see how this has gone before. General Petraeus, who 416 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: was you know, very esteemed very very arrogant during his time. 417 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: That was always his reputation when he was both a 418 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: four star and then CIA director. But a smart guy, 419 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: or certainly wanted everyone to think he was very smart. 420 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: Had a biographer you know who. I don't think generally 421 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: you want to have a biographer who's a lady who 422 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, works out six times a week and is 423 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: twenty or thirty years your junior. I'm just saying it's 424 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: probably not an affair with his biographer, right correct, Yes, 425 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: probably a way to get decent press into biography. I'll 426 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: just toss out if you're sleeping with your biographer, in theory, 427 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: she's probably at least as long as she's not hating you, 428 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: that's probably a way to have a decent biography written. 429 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean she anyway you could you 430 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: can all do the Google again sort of. See. 431 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: But I'm just telling you, like I know, if someone's 432 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: ever going to spend six months with me to help 433 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: with the Buck biography, I'm sure carry's going to make 434 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: sure that the guy looks like a misdoubtfire or something like. 435 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 2: You know, you just you don't want to be around 436 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: that kind of a situation. It's inappropriate anyway, and then 437 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: to act on it is obviously really bad. He had 438 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 2: classified information though, that he took home and that she 439 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: had access to, and he I have to go back 440 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: and look at his He did not go to prison, 441 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: but I believe he pleaded guilty to a felony. I 442 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: think maybe it was. I have to check. 443 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: I don't remember everything, unfortunately, but. 444 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: It was treated very seriously because he was taking classified 445 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 2: and giving it to his biographer and knew what he 446 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: was doing and writing things down in books that he 447 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: knew were, you know, was classified information. He was a 448 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: CI director. He didn't go to prison for it, but 449 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: he almost did. It was pretty close. I mean, someone 450 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: pull up whatever his The final dispensation that was I 451 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 2: think they revoked his clearance. There were a bunch of 452 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 2: things sanctions. Nobody gets away with. 453 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: This, though, is what I'm saying. He was the CIA. 454 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 2: Now you could say they went light on him, but 455 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: they didn't give him nothing, and it was hugely embarrassing 456 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: for him. It was, and it was prosecuted. Prosecutors went 457 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: after him. It was not treated as a nothing burger 458 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: with Biden. The fact that he hasn't been prosecuted for 459 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: this is just appalling, appalling. 460 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: Because if you were a GS eleven working at the 461 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: NSSA or the CIA or whatever, and you're on tape 462 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: saying I've got the classified I'm gonna send it to you. 463 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: You're probably going to prison. That is the truth. Everyone 464 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: who's listening now who has a clearance knows what I'm 465 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: saying is true. You're probably not for twenty years, but 466 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: like you're gonna get a couple of years, you're gonna 467 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: go for three or four years. The federal penn I 468 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: don't understand how Republicans aren't making a massively bigger deal 469 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: of this. And I give credit to whoever got that 470 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: Wall Street that's a big scoop what I read to 471 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: you when Merrick Garland becomes aware, the fact that Robert 472 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: Robert Hurst handed it to him, the fact that Merrick 473 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: Garland's first thought is does the writer have a lawyer? 474 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: It's not, Oh my goodness, the President of the United 475 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: States has committed a serious felony willfully, he knew exactly 476 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: what he was doing with classified documents. He's just such 477 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: an arrogant jerk too. And let's remember about Joe Biden. 478 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: He's in the system for so long he just thinks 479 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: the rules don't apply. And and I mean, you see this, 480 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: by the way, you saw the same thing with Hillary Clinton. 481 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: I mean what Hillary Clinton did. She had marked classified 482 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: documents that she was sending over an open email unless 483 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: she is an IQ of a toaster oven. She knew 484 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: that that was a no no, a big time no no, 485 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: and you know it just it. Honestly, it pisses me 486 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: off because people like me and a lot of you 487 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: on the military side of the house, who have had clearances, 488 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: you are treated if you if you walk into a 489 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: skiff with your cell phone by accident, you know, they'll 490 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: they'll they'll make it seem like you're a Soviet spy. 491 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: I'll freak out at you know, Oh, you know this 492 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: is a classific you. 493 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: Know in the you get a warning in your file 494 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 2: and it's gonna hurt your career and all this stuff. 495 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: And the people at the very top of the classified 496 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 2: food chain are not just reckless, they're they're intentionally disregarding. 497 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: They don't give a crap national securities a joke to them. 498 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: They've got a book to write. The fact that these 499 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: laws are still in the books. Honestly, I don't know 500 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 2: how anybody can. I don't think anybody can go to 501 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: prison for mishandling classified in a country where Joe Biden. 502 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: Gets away with it in a way that's so obvious 503 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: and so clear it's the whole sto to me, Buck, 504 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: this is evidence that he intentionally stole this as a senator, right. 505 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean the Trump argument, which is a good one, 506 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: is they packed up tons of boxes and they were 507 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: my boxes from inside of my inside of the West Wing. 508 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: It's not like Trump is sitting there and putting the 509 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: boxes all together. He just brought it tomorrow a lago. 510 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: It's under seal, it's protected, and it is different for 511 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: a president. Because if it's not different for a president, 512 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: then someone's gonna have to explain to me. Okay, who 513 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: tells a president who goes in front of the American 514 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: people about a classified, classified operation before it's officially declassified. 515 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: Who tells a president he can't do that? The answer nobody, 516 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 1: because he's the president. It's different for a president. By 517 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: the way, Petreus got two years of probation and paid 518 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars fine. Now they went easy on him, 519 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: but it was he did go he did have to plead, 520 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: he took a guilty plea. 521 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: It's on his record. He was humiliated. You know the 522 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: whole thing, right, He didn't get off Scott free Biden. 523 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: They haven't even they haven't done anything to this guy. 524 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: I think that honestly, the behind closed doors Biden's story 525 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: kind of sabotaged the bigger story here, which is that 526 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: Biden was intentionally bragging about the fact one that he 527 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: had classified documents. You remembering him with his ghostwriter, the huge. 528 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: The huge story. We'll come back to this guy. This 529 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 2: is a big deal, the huge story about Trump. He 530 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: showed classified documents to somebody at mar Lago and we. 531 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: Were like, oh my gosh, now the North Koreans are 532 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: going to invade and kill us. All we were supposed 533 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: to be so freaked out about that. Why is this? 534 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: This is first of all, I don't but I don't 535 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: buy that what that put aside their the recitation of 536 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: the facts there supposedly Joe Biden was was doing exactly 537 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: what they said Trump was doing. That was so horrible 538 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is the fact that this guy's had access 539 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: to classified as long as he has is astonishing. But 540 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: senators just had to steal it. That's the other thing. 541 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: Like everybody that you hear from a senator like they 542 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: have to go into a skiff. They're not allowed to 543 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: take papers out. I mean, it's not as if his 544 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: office was filled with classified documents. Resident he would. 545 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: Classified for a memoir. He can't put the classified in 546 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: the memoir, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's it's 547 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 2: what is fantastic question too? Is any of this stuff 548 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: I'm just throwing it out there. I know we're running 549 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: a long time here. Any of that classified has anything 550 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: to do with I don't know, energy markets in Ukraine 551 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: or what's going on with China. 552 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. 553 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: Maybe there's some business interests here that we're not also 554 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: taking into account. Let's dive into this some more. 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Appreciate all 587 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us as we were rolling 588 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: through the Wednesday edition of the program. We're joined now 589 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: by the Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, and you're a 590 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: fellow Vanderbilt law grad So I want to dive right 591 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: into right into this with you, Governor. Front Page Wall 592 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: Street Journal today there is a story that Joe Biden 593 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: had classified documents, that he was waiving them around for 594 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: his ghostwriter. Direct quote, I just found all the classified 595 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 1: stuff downstairs, Biden on tape, saying at the time he 596 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: was vice president. Well, you saw what just happened to 597 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump with Alvin Bragg. You know that Trump is 598 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: his standing trial theoretically in South Florida for his own 599 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: classified documents case. When are Republicans going to start throwing 600 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: punches back here? You're a lawyer like I am, I 601 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: understand the importance of standing on principle, but what they're 602 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: doing is unprecedented law there, and it often feels like 603 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: Republicans are not throwing punches back. Do you feel that way? 604 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: What should happen? 605 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 4: Well, we feel at a bit different in Texas because listen, 606 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 4: we have ongoing litigation where we are on the offense 607 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 4: against Joe Biden. And bide administration perpetually, and so we're 608 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 4: throwing a ton of punches ourselves, and we need ags 609 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 4: and states and other jurisdictions across the country using this 610 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 4: not for lawfair purposes, but to ensure that there's equal 611 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 4: justice in the United States of America. You know, one 612 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 4: of the things that's dividing our country so much is 613 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 4: our fellow Americans are seeing a difference in the way 614 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 4: that law has applied to Republicans versus the way that 615 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 4: law is applied to Democrats. And we need to do 616 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 4: our part to make sure that we will fully enforce 617 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 4: the law of the United States of America against everybod 618 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 4: That's what you call equal justice. And we know, whether 619 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 4: it be Biden or whether it be Hillary or so 620 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 4: many other people, there are crimes clearly committed that Americans 621 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 4: can see on their face were committed with no legal 622 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 4: action being taken to enforce the law against those crimes. 623 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 4: And so it's essential that all of us do our 624 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 4: part to make sure that the violators of the law, 625 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 4: whoever they may be, are going to be held accountable 626 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 4: for those violations. 627 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: Governor rabbitts Bock, thanks for being here with us yesterday. 628 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 2: The executive order that Biden signed. People see this, a 629 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 2: lot of them is too little, too late. But actually, 630 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: we played a clip of you, a SoundBite of you 631 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: earlier in the show where you said that Biden's executive order, 632 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: for those who really know what's going on at the border, 633 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 2: is going to make illegal immigration worse. Please explain how 634 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 2: that works out. 635 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 4: I'll do it, And in doing so, I want to 636 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 4: correct this phrase because some people do say it's too little, 637 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 4: too late, that that's assuming that it is achieving something. 638 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 4: By categorizing it as too little, this not only accomplishes nothing, 639 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 4: this actually sets us back the reason for it. Think 640 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 4: about what the order says. What the order says is 641 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 4: that the first two thousand, five hundred people who cross 642 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 4: the border a day, you're got to free right into 643 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 4: the United States, no questions asked, No one's going to 644 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 4: stop you, and that the only thing that's going to 645 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 4: happen after that first twenty five hundred is that Joe 646 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 4: Biden is going to stop allowing people to be granted asilent. 647 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 4: But still no enforcement. In the entire order, there's exactly 648 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 4: zero said or done to enforce the immigration laws of 649 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 4: the United States or to deny illegal entry into the 650 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 4: United States instead, where they're saying, listen, we're gonna we 651 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 4: want to prosecute more silent claims. Well, what's that going 652 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 4: to do. That's going to attract even more people to 653 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 4: rush toward our border. It will accelerate the process that 654 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 4: the cartels are using to get people across the border illegally. 655 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 4: And what's the twenty five hundred per person across the 656 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 4: border per day is matched, that's not going to stop 657 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 4: the cartels from coming across the border. In fact, you 658 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 4: saw this last night at midnight Eastern time eleven o'clock 659 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 4: Central time is when the law went at effect and 660 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 4: there was no stopping people coming across the border. The 661 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 4: Bide administration has no apparatus, no tool, no strategy, no 662 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 4: game plan to stop people from coming across the border illegally. 663 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 4: Then let me add one last thing, and that is 664 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 4: Joe Biden doesn't need to sign an executive and the 665 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 4: executive order. There are laws passed by the United States 666 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 4: Congress already on the books before job Joe Biden took 667 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 4: office that one require the president to deny illegal entry, 668 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 4: two to detain anybody who does enter illegally, and three 669 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 4: to build border barriers. He's doing none of that. And 670 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 4: to prove one of these you will recall and our 671 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 4: fellow Americans will recall under Trump, under Obama, under Book Bush, 672 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 4: there were all of these detention facilities in Texas as 673 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 4: well as in other states where they were detending these 674 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 4: people who'd come across the border. They were doing so 675 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 4: because they are required by that law was talking about 676 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 4: to detain them. Joe Biden has abandoned that. And this 677 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 4: is one of those areas where we need Republicans stepping 678 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 4: up in Texas is stepping up to try to enforce 679 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 4: this law and to hold Biden accountable for not enforcing 680 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 4: this law because he's simply ignoring the laws of the 681 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 4: United States of America by not detaining these people who 682 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 4: do cross the border illegally. 683 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: We're talking to Texas Governor Greg Abbot. I want to 684 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: give you immense credit here for this. You started to 685 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: send illegal immigrants crossing into Texas all over the country, 686 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: and I remember initially people said, oh, what's this going 687 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: to do? And then you've seen New York, Chicago, Denver, Washington, 688 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: d C. All of these sanctuary cities start to crumble 689 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: to over ten million elite. So two part question here 690 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: for you, do you believe when you see the Lake 691 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: and Riley like stories that Joe Biden has blood on 692 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: his hands to say nothing of what might happen with 693 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: we know terrorists crossing our border illegally and the FBI 694 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: director saying he thinks we could have a attack like 695 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: they had in Russia recently. Second part of this, I 696 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: want to give people some optimism. If Trump wins and 697 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: he comes back into office in January, how quickly do 698 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: you think you could get the Texas border shut down 699 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: if you simply had the new and right American president 700 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: enforcing the laws on the books to be able to 701 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: shut down the southern border, well shut down illegal immigration, right, yeah, yeah, 702 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. 703 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 4: So first with regard to Mike and Riley, that's what 704 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 4: you call murder by government policies is the policy of 705 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 4: the bad administration to allow people to cross the border illegally, 706 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 4: including people who are known criminals, including people who are 707 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 4: arrested and let back out on the street. And so 708 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 4: that there's only one reason why that murder was walking 709 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 4: free in a way that harmed and killed Liken Riley, 710 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 4: and that's because of government policy. And hence we have 711 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 4: to change the government policy. So listen, I know for 712 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 4: a fact that, first of all, Trump is going to win, 713 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 4: and a major reason why he's going to win is 714 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 4: because Americans are so angry about Joe Biden's open border policies. 715 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 4: And Trump will process that and make sure that he 716 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 4: is responding to his American constituents but making sure he 717 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 4: secures the border. And I know that he is prepared 718 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 4: to take action on day one, sunning executive orders that 719 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 4: will fully enforce the laws of the United States of America, 720 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 4: and it will lead to more than what he accomplished. 721 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 4: So remember what he accomplished. Because we've been under Biden 722 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 4: for so long, people forget that under Donald Trump, we're 723 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 4: the lowest illegal border crossings in four decades. And but 724 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 4: but that's not enough for U President Trump. This next 725 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 4: goal around, He's going to completely shut it down and 726 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 4: send back people who have come across the border illegally. 727 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 728 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 4: And it's going to change the game, and it will 729 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 4: truly happen in that first week in office. And he 730 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 4: will fully discharge the Border Patrol and ICE to do 731 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 4: their job, which is not to process paperwork, but to 732 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 4: deny illegal entry. 733 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 2: Governor Rabbit for people who worry that it's too late, 734 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 2: that there have been too many illegals coming into the country. 735 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 2: The political will won't be there. The processing, the bureaucracy 736 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 2: next necessary to address this problem. What do you What 737 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 2: do you say then, because I think there are a 738 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: lot of those listening who feel like this problem has 739 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 2: gotten so out of hand, is it even possible to 740 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 2: turn it around? 741 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 4: So it's for one, it has gone of hend, and 742 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 4: it makes more daunting the process of turning it around. 743 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 4: But there's no one in the world with a greater 744 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 4: will to get that done than President Trump, and he 745 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 4: will do it far more better than anybody else would 746 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 4: be able to do that and unravel the harm and 747 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 4: damage caused by Joe Biden and restore both normalcy but 748 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 4: also the rule of law in the United States of 749 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 4: America and make it very clear you try to cross 750 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 4: our border illegally, you're going to be sent back to 751 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 4: where you came from or otherwise be put in prison 752 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 4: for a very long time. 753 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: Mexico governor has just elected a new leftist leader. I 754 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: think she won by thirty points, but there is talk 755 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: that she is going to be potentially difficult to deal 756 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 1: with on border related issues. I don't know. I believe 757 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: her name is Claudia Schinbaum, and I might be mispronouncing 758 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: the last name. Do you have any relationship at all 759 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: with her on a prior basis? Do you think that 760 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: she is likely to help or hinder border security issues 761 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 1: now that she's coming to power in Mexico. 762 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 4: So I don't have any working relationship with or never 763 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 4: met her before or anything like that. I think you 764 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,720 Speaker 4: probably know she's a protege of MLO, the current president 765 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 4: of Mexico, who has been totally destructive on the border 766 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 4: policy under Joe Biden. Remember this, When Donald Trump was president, 767 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 4: m Low gave in to Trump's demands the roomant in 768 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 4: Mexico policy and things like that. And the reason for 769 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,439 Speaker 4: it is very simple, and that is the United States 770 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 4: of America holds all the cards as it concerns Mexico, 771 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 4: and Donald Trump is not afraid to use those cards. 772 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 4: Joe Biden refuses to use those cards. But it doesn't 773 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 4: matter if it's Shambaum, it's m Low, or whoever the 774 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 4: president of Mexico is going to be. Donald Trump will 775 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,400 Speaker 4: use every lever that the United States has, which is 776 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 4: all the levers to make sure that we are not 777 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 4: going to be the dumping ground for people who are 778 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 4: trying to come here illegally from across the entire globe. 779 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: Governor Greg Abbott of Texas, by the way, welcome to 780 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: the SEC for your Longhorns. I know there's a big 781 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: celebration coming up soon. You're not only a Vanderbilt logerd, 782 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: I know you're a big Texas Longhorn fan. Are you 783 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: excited for that? 784 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 4: Well, of course we are. We enjoyed our foray into 785 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 4: the SEC last year when we went to Alabama and 786 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 4: beat Alabama, and so we are hopefully ready with another 787 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 4: good team. This year. We will be hosting Georgia in Austin, Texas, 788 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 4: which would be one of the big games, and of 789 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 4: course for Texas as a state, but also I think 790 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 4: for the entire country. There's going to be a reunification 791 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 4: of a game people love to watch, and that's the 792 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 4: game between Texas and Texas A. 793 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: And m no doubt. And by the way, we appreciate 794 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: your hospitality. You had Buck and I to the Governor's 795 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: mansion when we had bucked down not the past year 796 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: in Tuscalouza, but when you guys hosted Bama in Austin. 797 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: It was a super awesome event you had there. 798 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 4: You're welcome back for the Georgia game this year. 799 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back. You just gotta tell me who 800 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: I root for, Governor. That's the only rule. So you 801 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: let me know. 802 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 4: If you're not wearing burnt orange, you're gonna be in 803 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 4: a lot of trouble. 804 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 1: Gotcha, Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott. We appreciate the time. 805 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 4: Governor, so you gotta take care. 806 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 1: The terror attacks in Israel on October seventh only further 807 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: increase the anti Semitism that's been on the rise. We 808 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: see it here in the US across the world, including 809 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: in Israel. In fact, I think I can say this, 810 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: we're planning a trip to Israel to be able to 811 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: go see these terror sites ourselves and be able to 812 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: do some radio programs from Israel, which I think you 813 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: guys would certainly benefit from, and I know that we 814 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: would benefit from them on the show. And that's partly 815 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: because of our new partnership with the International Fellowships Christians 816 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 1: and Jews, the IFCJ. It's an organization going the distance 817 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: to show israelis they're not alone, that people halfway across 818 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: the world care about them and their safety. You can 819 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 1: join us and stand with the IFCJ to raise your 820 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: voice and show your support. Your pledge is to stand 821 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: with our Jewish brothers and sisters, to never be silent 822 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: and to show the Jewish people they're not alone. The 823 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: month of this month of June, we're asking you to 824 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: sign a pledge which will be delivered to the President 825 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: of Israel to show Christians and Jews in America are 826 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 1: supporting them in their time of need. To sign the pledge, 827 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 1: join us and go to SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. That support 828 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: IFCJ dot org. 829 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 3: Keep up with Clay and Bucks campaign coverage with twenty 830 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 3: four a Sunday highlight reel from the week. Find it 831 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 3: on the free iHeartRadio app wherever you get your podcasts. 832 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Our friend Pete peg 833 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 2: Seth joins us now. He is an Army veteran of 834 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 2: Iraq and Afghanistan. He is the co host of Fox 835 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 2: and Friends Weekend, also a Fox Nation host. He's got 836 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 2: a book out. 837 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: The War on Warriors. Behind the Betrayal of the Men 838 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: Who Keep Us Free? What's going on? Pete. Good to 839 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 1: talk to you. 840 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 5: What's up, guys, Thanks for having me. 841 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but of course to talk to us a little 842 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: bit about the book and what what do people need 843 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: to know? 844 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 5: Well, folks need to know that, you know, without a 845 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 5: capable military, we're not free. And I joined and served 846 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 5: a military that I love, that was lethal, that was 847 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 5: based on meritocracy, that was existed for twenty years to 848 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 5: try as best it could to defeat extremism. And now 849 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 5: that very seem military is identifying people like me, and 850 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 5: I tell that specific story in the book as extremists. 851 00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 5: So political ideologies have captured the top of our pentagon, 852 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 5: and that's proliferated throughout the institution, and it's made our 853 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,720 Speaker 5: ranks less accountable. It's lowered the standards. They're less prepared, 854 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 5: commanders are walking on eggshells and as a result, they're 855 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,320 Speaker 5: less capable. And so it's not a good story book. 856 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 5: And it's something that's not just a military, it's the CIA. 857 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 5: It's other institutions are facing this too, But it's something 858 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,279 Speaker 5: that can be reversed and I wanted to sound the 859 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 5: alarm on it now in the hopes that we can 860 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 5: write the ship. 861 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: If we had to Pete, thanks for coming on. If 862 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,280 Speaker 1: we had to actually fight, let's say China invaded Taiwan, 863 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: let's say also basically were into World War three, then, 864 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: given what's already going on in Europe, what's already going 865 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: on in the Middle East, do you think our military 866 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,919 Speaker 1: is capable of fighting a war like that right now? 867 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 5: Sad answer is probably no. Clay, you know, the Pentagon 868 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 5: does war games all the time, and they're wargaming against 869 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 5: China with all these sophisticated models, and it has an 870 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,320 Speaker 5: undefeated record in the last decade against China. We os 871 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 5: every time, and it's because China is building a military. 872 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 5: Not that China is exceptional or amazing, but they're building 873 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 5: a military that is intended to defeat us capabilities. Whereas 874 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 5: the military we have is more or less focused on 875 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 5: fighting the wars we just left and hasn't navigated back. 876 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,280 Speaker 5: It doesn't have the industrial base, doesn't have the forward thinking, 877 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 5: isn't recruiting sufficiently, and then doesn't have the warrior ethos. 878 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 5: I mean, it matters what kind of generals you have, 879 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 5: what kind of tone they set, how those units integrate 880 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,960 Speaker 5: together to become a team. Right now, the ethos is 881 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 5: inside our military. You hear all the time from these generals. 882 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 5: It's nonsense. Our diversity is our strength, what a bunch 883 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 5: of crap like, especially in uniform. Our unity is our strength. 884 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 5: We all get the same training worre camouflage, you get 885 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 5: bad haircuts, and after that you're not an individual anymore. 886 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 5: You're a part of a unit that's supposed to work, 887 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 5: operate as a team, and your differences are not what matter. 888 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 5: That is when I've talked to dozens of guys, dozens 889 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 5: actively serving, and they tell me the same thing. It's 890 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 5: creeping into units in a serious way. That's undermining morale 891 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 5: and capabilities. 892 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 1: We're speaking of Pete Heggsath. The book is The War 893 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 1: on Warriors. 894 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 2: It's just out now, and Pete, we know that there's 895 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 2: this problem, and we've seen some of the wokeness, you know, 896 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 2: General Millie and all the stuff right, and the books 897 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,439 Speaker 2: that are being assigned, and just lots of stuff that's 898 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 2: out there. I think our audience here is very attuned 899 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,240 Speaker 2: to that. How does it get fixed? 900 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 1: Right? 901 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,280 Speaker 2: I mean other than just we wish we had generals 902 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,760 Speaker 2: who didn't buy into this stuff. 903 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:35,839 Speaker 1: What can be done? 904 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 2: I mean, how do you change the ethos back to 905 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 2: what it used to be of an organization that's got 906 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 2: a couple of million people in it. 907 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 5: There's a lot to that buck, for sure, But it 908 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 5: starts with a new commander in chief. Donald Trump said 909 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 5: it in our interview with him last weekend. You know 910 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 5: I'm gonna firewoke generals. You got to have a commander 911 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 5: in chief that hires a Secretary of State that will 912 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,800 Speaker 5: take or Secretary Defense that will take none of this nonsense, 913 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 5: a chairman of the Joint chiefs. It sets the tone 914 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 5: some very key targeted firings of those that were responsible 915 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 5: for the CRT DEI stuff, the gender stuff that pushed 916 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 5: through women in combat when the evidence showed it wasn't 917 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,240 Speaker 5: going to be helpful. That are pushing the green fleets 918 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 5: and the electric tanks. You need to fire people, and 919 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 5: then you need to change the way promotions happen, careerism occurs. 920 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 5: There's a lot of things. Then you got to go 921 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 5: into the military academies. West Point looks a lot more 922 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 5: like Berkeley than it used to. Civilian professors are everywhere, 923 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 5: and their ideologies are similar to what you see on 924 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 5: civilian campuses. All that stuff's being taught to young officers. 925 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 5: You have to change that too. You have to outlaw 926 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 5: CRT and DEI. The army is a top The military 927 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 5: is a top down institution. When an order goes out 928 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 5: that things are going to change, it usually gets followed 929 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 5: and then you have to follow up on it. But 930 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 5: it can change more quickly than most institutions. It probably 931 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 5: will take more than one term. So it would be 932 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 5: Donald Trump and then his successor that would have to 933 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 5: be a part of changing it. 934 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: Talking to Pete hegg Seth Pete, tomorrow eightieth anniversary of 935 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 1: D Day. I believe it's also your forty fourth birthday. 936 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever had I saw Will 937 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 1: tweet that he had taken his family and he had 938 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,919 Speaker 1: been able to tour Normandy. I'm sure we'll talk about 939 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: this some tomorrow. I took my family. It's one of 940 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,760 Speaker 1: the most amazing trips I've ever been to see that ground. 941 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: Have you ever gotten to go to see the battlefield 942 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 1: at Normandy to see what it looks like? And if not, 943 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: there is there a place. I know you're a history 944 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 1: guy too, that you've gone and had an opportunity to 945 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,840 Speaker 1: visit that to you sort of is emblematic of the 946 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: history of American excellence in the military. 947 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 5: Man, that's a great question, Clay. 948 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: I've never been. 949 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 5: My wife got me a surprise trip to go to 950 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 5: Normandy right before COVID, So the whole plan got scrapped 951 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,399 Speaker 5: because I've always wanted to go, and I've always wanted 952 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 5: to see it, and I saw what Will Caine put 953 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 5: out and it's amazing. Speak of Normandy, I mean talk 954 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 5: about General Eisenhower, as you guys probably know, famously wrote 955 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,360 Speaker 5: two letters. One if it succeeded in one of its failed, 956 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 5: and if it failed, he was prepared to take accountability 957 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,720 Speaker 5: and resign. Where's that ethos in our military today? 958 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:06,360 Speaker 1: You know? 959 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 5: I we we took our kids. You probably know where 960 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 5: this is at Clay, the Nashville National Cemetery, which is, 961 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 5: oh yeah, it's on I think it's East Nashville. They 962 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 5: had a ceremony this this past Memorial Day weekend, and 963 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 5: just taking kids any find any cemetery like that, few 964 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 5: and far between, are as large as the one in 965 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 5: Omaha Beach and at Normandy or at Arlington. We just 966 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 5: have him walked through the crosses, walk through the markers, 967 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,920 Speaker 5: and look over the horizon, and see the cost of freedom. 968 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 5: That affected me a ton as a kid, and and 969 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,280 Speaker 5: I think did the same for my young young boys. 970 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 5: I went to Gettysburg and that got me many years ago. 971 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,479 Speaker 5: Just pick a battlefield, go there with someone that knows 972 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 5: how it went down, and then share it and it'll 973 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 5: change you. 974 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: Pete, did you know that Clay went to Civil War 975 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 1: sleep away camp? This is true, no real thing. That's amazing. Yeah. 976 00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: My wife says that she is. She never would have 977 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 1: believed that she would have married or certainly had kids 978 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: with anyone who was willing to go to Civil War 979 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,760 Speaker 1: sleep away camp. I did. I was after my junior 980 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: year of high school at Gettysburg College. They have something 981 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 1: called the Civil War Institute, or they used to, and 982 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,840 Speaker 1: I got a scholarship and went there and stayed for 983 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 1: a week. And my wife said, uh, you know they 984 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 1: gave scholarships like people actually competed and competed for this, 985 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 1: And yes, I got one and it was amazing. 986 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 5: Clay, I want that scholarship from my kids. Send me 987 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 5: the info I want. 988 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 1: I will kids. It was awesome. We did the Shenandoah 989 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,440 Speaker 1: Valley Campaign of eighteen sixty four. They have a different 990 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: Civil War focus every year. It's not just Gettysburg. And 991 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: they took us on to it, like I just like 992 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 1: going to this is like going to tuba camp or something. 993 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: It was super superhistory. He went to the six week 994 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: clarinet intensive. Hey, by the way, two cute girls were 995 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,359 Speaker 1: also on. This was maybe the bigger upset that they 996 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: were too cutels. I had an advantage because I think 997 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: the guys that were at Civil Wars Clay was not 998 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 1: a high not a high level of competition, that's to 999 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,360 Speaker 1: be sure. Speaking by the way, a competition, should we 1000 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 1: ask him? That's a perfect segue. Clay, Uh, talk to 1001 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 1: me about this right before he came on, Pete, has 1002 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: this challenge already been laid out? Clay, I don't want 1003 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:15,879 Speaker 1: to misrepresent. 1004 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1005 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 1: I don't know the exact details. You and so you 1006 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: played basketball at Princeton, right, let's set the table here. Yes, yep, Okay, 1007 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,839 Speaker 1: you played basketball Printon, which is D one school IVY League. 1008 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 1: But a D one school audience is not gonna hold 1009 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: that against you. But Uh, Clay asked me, I'm just 1010 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 1: gonna say on your behalf, Pete. He asked me, do 1011 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 1: you think that Pete, right, now could could beat Caitlyn 1012 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:44,720 Speaker 1: Clark in one on one basketball? Now. I initially said, 1013 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, I think I think Pete will probably 1014 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 1: smoke her. But then Clay said, hold on a second. 1015 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: If they're using the female sized ball, which is a 1016 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 1: different size, and I didn't know Caitlin Clark is six 1017 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,839 Speaker 1: feet tall, she's about your size, give her take. Are 1018 00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: you confident that Pete you could with no training? No? Nothing. 1019 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 1: I mean we're talking. You take your Fox and Friends 1020 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: suit off and you put on a basketball jersey. Do 1021 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: you think you could take Caitlin Clark and all of 1022 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: America is listening right now. 1023 00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 5: Okay, in a three point contest right now. No, in 1024 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 5: a three point contest in my prime, it's a wash. Okay, 1025 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,879 Speaker 5: one on one in my prime, I smoke her one 1026 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 5: on one right now. 1027 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: It's it's a push. 1028 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 5: I don't know, but I'm using a CALLID how how much? 1029 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 1: Okay, let's pretend, all right, I let's say that I Pete. 1030 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: I said, Hey, I'm gonna put fifty thousand dollars on 1031 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 1: this game. All right, you get fifty thousand dollars and 1032 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 1: you can walk away, or you get one hundred thousand 1033 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: if you beat her one on one? Are you playing 1034 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 1: the game? To go for a hundred? Is a wret too? 1035 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 1: So no elbows? Yeah, yeah, there's a wrete. We got 1036 00:55:58,600 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 1: a legit one on one. 1037 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm playing the game, but I'm prepared to lose. 1038 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 5: You know, I'm playing the game because I think I 1039 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 5: have a shot, but I'm prepared. She is so good 1040 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 5: and such a different kind of player. Those shots she 1041 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,839 Speaker 5: hits from that far out. How do you guard that 1042 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 5: and guard the drive? You gotta get physical, you got 1043 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,239 Speaker 5: a body up. That would be I would be old 1044 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 5: man stress. I said, he's got a box, he's gonna 1045 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 5: box out. He's gotta go older. 1046 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: So you would you would go like old school NBA, 1047 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,359 Speaker 1: like Patrick Ewing and just slowly back her down like 1048 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: it might take ten seconds for you to take a shot, 1049 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 1: but you're just gonna work your way inside. 1050 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,359 Speaker 5: Whatever it takes, whatever it takes, Clay, I just. 1051 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: It's I don't know. 1052 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 5: I just I would try to make some moves, but 1053 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 5: I feel like that would you would you be a 1054 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 5: play bodier? 1055 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? You you you so? Here's my thing. I would 1056 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: be so afraid if I were you, not of losing, 1057 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 1: because I think if you lost. People be like, hey, 1058 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: Pete's you know, he's in his forties. She's twenty one 1059 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: or twenty two, she's six feet she's the best women's 1060 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 1: shooter in the game. Right now. Here's what I'd be 1061 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: afraid of. I'd be afraid of injuring myself, like tearing 1062 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 1: your acl Like who tried to dunk Desroyd? Yeah, and 1063 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 1: you don't even get to finish the game. And then 1064 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: it's like, what doesn't even matter what the score was 1065 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 1: at the time. It would go megaviral if you even 1066 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: if you just had a bad ankle sprain or something, 1067 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 1: if you weren't able to finish the game. That's what 1068 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 1: I would be afraid. 1069 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 2: Although I would say calein Park dunked on Pete, He'd 1070 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 2: never be able to live it down. 1071 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 5: I recently played my thirty year old brother because he 1072 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 5: declared it was the first time he thought he could 1073 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 5: beat me finally, and he's never beat me, and I 1074 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 5: beat him, but I almost died trying, and that would 1075 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 5: be that would be the case here. I would die 1076 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 5: trying to play. 1077 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 1: This is funny you mentioned that because my my middle 1078 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 1: son is thirteen now, he's gonna be fourteen in September. 1079 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: But he's playing middle school basketball. He's pretty good. He's 1080 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 1: not listening, so say he's pretty good at bad basketball. 1081 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 1: He's played travel, all this stuff. I played him recently 1082 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: in the backyard. Uh, and he got up like ten 1083 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 1: to nothing, and you played basketball. I'm curious, Buck, I 1084 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 1: understand that this is going to be borderline trash talk. 1085 00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: He was talking trash to me, and I said, you 1086 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 1: need to shut up. I slept with your mom, and 1087 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: I felt bad that I had to legit play the 1088 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 1: I slept with your mom line on my kid. But 1089 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 1: that's an ultimate trash talk line. It's actually true in 1090 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 1: this case. But he was running me, and I don't 1091 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 1: know how much more time I have where I can 1092 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: win the game. So do you get beat or do 1093 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 1: you just gallantly retire? If your kids are starting to 1094 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 1: get better than you at one on one basketball, you 1095 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 1: have to. 1096 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 5: Play until they can beat you legitimate. I will play 1097 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 5: as hard as I can to the very end and 1098 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 5: take great pride in the day when my kids beat me, 1099 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 5: and I will be okay with that, but they will 1100 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 5: have to earn it for sure. 1101 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 1: The book Write a Passage is. 1102 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 2: The War on Warriors and Pete heg Saith did not 1103 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 2: did not say that he could necessarily beat Caitlin Clark. 1104 00:58:58,320 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 2: We thought we're going to bait you into saying you 1105 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 2: can smoke Caitlin Clark one on one. 1106 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 1: I thought you told me that you could. 1107 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 5: I that was the three point contest and three point 1108 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 5: contests I feel back in one on one. 1109 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 4: Listen. 1110 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 5: I want to be very clear about this, Buck. 1111 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 1: I think I could. 1112 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 5: Maybe, I'm not saying I would maybe. 1113 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: Okay to me because of the physicality. Absolutely, yeah, oh man, 1114 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: that's all. I like. Where your head's at, Pete. Everybody 1115 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 1: go check out Pete's book, The War On Warriors Behind 1116 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 1: the Betrayal of the Men to Keep Us Free. Great 1117 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 1: book out now, Pete egg Seth, come back and hang 1118 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 1: out with us soon. Thanks guys. Oh man, that's a 1119 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 1: good Now, somebody's gonna grab a headline. What if Caitlyn 1120 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 1: Clark saw it and she challenged Pete one on I 1121 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 1: would I mean, you tell me you wouldn't. I'm gonna 1122 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 1: tell you right now. I think is it is? It? 1123 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: Is it? 1124 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 2: You know, score and you keep the ball. That's another 1125 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 2: huge thing. Yeah yeah, that's like you know right, Yeah, yeah, 1126 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 2: I give her a run for money if it was 1127 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 2: winner's ball. But the second I trying to guard her, 1128 00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 2: I get I get smoked. That's the thing that is 1129 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 2: very confident. 1130 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 5: You know. 1131 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,440 Speaker 1: I would take two hundred. I'm six feet tall. I 1132 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 1: could I could box her out, you know, but I 1133 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 1: think she would crush me. Here's a question for you 1134 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: as we go to break. Would that be the highest 1135 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,760 Speaker 1: rated Fox and Friends ever? If Caitlin Clark challenged Pete 1136 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,640 Speaker 1: hegseth one on one and Fox and Friends as part 1137 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 1: of their segment just covered that game for like she 1138 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 1: should she should do a They should play either a 1139 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 1: three point contest or like a game of horse on 1140 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: Fox and Friends with Pete. It would be amazing. I 1141 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,000 Speaker 1: want I would love to call that game. I would 1142 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 1: I would sit down with Will Caine, give me a mic. 1143 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 1: I'll be the sideline reporter. I would be riveted. I 1144 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 1: think that would be must seatime. I bet it would 1145 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 1: be the highest rated Fox and Friends ever. Ally's like 1146 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,479 Speaker 1: nervous read read the Reid. You're too fired up about this? Uh? Yes, 1147 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: I understand. I want to tell you about my friends 1148 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: at Prize Picks as we're just talking about betting, uh 1149 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 1: and talking about wagering and talking about making picks. Would 1150 01:00:55,720 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 1: you pick Pete Hegseth or Caitlin Clark. I'm gonna be 1151 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 1: honest with you, Buck, I would definitely take Caitlin Clark 1152 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 1: against you. Pete was on the Princeton basketball team. I mean, 1153 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. I I played a little wreck in 1154 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 1: high school. Like you know, you took a shot and 1155 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 1: you were like, oh you you played Ivy League. I mean, 1156 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 1: but Princeton goes to the NC DOUBLEA tournament. He might 1157 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 1: have won an NC DOUBLEA tournament game with what was 1158 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 1: it Pete Carroll back in the day, if I remember, 1159 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 1: or I think that was the guy's clay. I have 1160 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 1: no idea if Princeton's good at any sport. You know, 1161 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 1: Princeton is pretty good. They've made the NC DOUBLEA tournament 1162 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 1: a lot over the years. 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