WEBVTT - Jab It Like It's Hot (with Madison Shepard) 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.800 Do you suffer from something like anaphylaxis? If you if 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.799 you are the opposite of throat go and your throat 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:15.880 closes up from contact, then you gotta be responsible, you know, 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:19.759 Nancy Reagan, you gotta you gotta take your time to 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:28.640 figure this ship out. You know what I mean? Chips 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:47.000 in yours are racist money mary stuff. You can't tell me. Yep, yep, yep, 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.320 there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:55.080 to another phenomenal episode of My Mama told me the 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.720 podcast will be dive deep, deep into the pockets of 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:02.920 black conspiracy there and we finally worked to prove that yes, 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:09.040 Trey Songs invented sex, but more importantly, he invented sexual assault. 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:13.200 That's right, ladies and gentlemen. Trigger was at the forefront 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.000 of both. He's too damn good at both of them. 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.080 You know, he's good at sex. But the man is 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:21.880 a master at wraith, and we need to celebrate him 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.640 for his work. That's the conspiracy theory I'm spreading. I'm 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.800 your host, Lankston Kerman as always coming in hot baby 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.640 doing doing what I do. You know what the funk 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:35.520 it is? This is the New York edition of the podcast, 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.160 I'm I'm in a I'm in a What what was 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.320 told to me is a one bedroom apartment in New 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.760 York City. And what I can tell you is them 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:51.320 niggas lied to me because a bedroom, No, sir, this 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:55.000 this is a This is an open floor plan of 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.440 of studio. You know what I mean. It's a studio 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.760 with the taste with just a little extra, a little 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.080 see easing it right on the side. But that's not 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.080 that's not important. That doesn't affect the podcast at all. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:08.200 It really just places my temperament, I guess it. It 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.080 sort of gives you a sense. If I'm a little 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.360 spicy in the podcast today, just know it's because I 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:18.120 ship where I sleep now based on where I live. 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.120 But that's that's not important, because my guest today, I 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.520 don't think she ships where she sleeps. I think she 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.440 probably sleeps in a completely separate space from where she ships, 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:30.920 and I bet they're both beautiful spaces. She's she's a 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:35.000 hilarious comedian. She's a wonderful actress. You know her from 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:38.480 from her work on single Drunk Female show That is 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.919 is still out. It's on free Form. You can watch 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.800 it on Hulu if you ain't free forming, but you 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.840 you still Hulu and she will also be on the 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:50.160 season premiere of Barry, a show I Love Dearly. I 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:51.680 can't wait for it to come out. I think it 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.880 comes out in April. I don't know the specific date, 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.080 but that's not my responsibility. You piece of ships. Don't 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.680 worry about that. Just worry about who the guest is. 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:01.959 She's so funny, so great. Please give it up for 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:10.359 my guest, Miss Madison Shepherd. Hello, oh yeah, oh my gosh. Wow. 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.720 I would like to make people feel welcome here. Listen, 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.040 I mean from your studio apartment to mine. I love it. 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:19.760 Don't you say that they said it's a one bed room. 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:24.440 Don't you take this away from me? How are we? How? 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:29.880 How's everything are you? Well? I'm I'm well. I'm you know, 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.720 excited for all the stuff to come. I'm keeping a hopeful, 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:39.960 manifested vibe. You know, it's being positive about my life. 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:43.360 You know it's so good. That doesn't sound like the 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:46.760 way I approach things, But I'm excited that that's you 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.160 to each of his own. I guess if that's how 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:50.880 you want to do it. I'm I'm more of a 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.960 of a gun in my back pocket kind of man. 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.280 You know, at this point, I don't actually have one. Metaphorically, 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:02.240 I understand, I understand, let's not let's not meander here, 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:07.160 let's not dilly dally right as as the streets would say, 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:11.880 we have a really I guess a good I think 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:15.040 it's going to be an exciting conversation to enter to 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:18.520 enter into today because your conspiracy theory. You said, my 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:24.680 mama told me black people are being targeted with an 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:34.440 anti vax propaganda. Yeah, it's more well, I mean probably 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.479 the most. The biggest example of this is there was 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.960 a film that came out last year about medical racism, 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.120 and it was, you know, supposed to be this like 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:51.080 one hour free expose about how the medical institution is 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:55.400 killing black people with not it doesn't blatantly say the 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:59.159 COVID vaccine, but it is clearly about the COVID vaccine. 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:04.360 And it's it's interesting because I also, you know, I'm 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.400 not on black Twitter no more because I had a 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:10.320 little issue with Twitter, and uh, I was busy wasting 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.040 my time. You know. I was like, listen, I was 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.000 spending too much time, was affecting my mental health. I 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.320 was like, there are better Let me go walk outside 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.440 or pet a dog or anything but a cursed app. 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.640 So I got out the Twitter before before you go 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.240 any further, you said you're not on Twitter anymore because 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.679 you had an issue. Was this just a personal issue 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.120 where you were like I am not doing well with 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.560 this or was it like, oh, they came for you 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.560 in a way that you had to uh to dismount 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:39.240 from this space and never returned to it. Unfortunately, that 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.279 was never really my journey on Twitter. Like I don't 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.000 think anybody buck. I felt like I was on Twitter 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.240 for seven years and I did all the things, and 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.080 then nothing happened on my Twitter. So I was like, 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.200 maybe I give it up, you know, maybe it's like 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.320 not for me. So unfortunately nobody cares enough about me 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.560 to come for me. But it's a sad truth, and 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:03.840 listen that that sometimes can feel more heartbreaking than than 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.440 if they say they want to kill you dead. Right. 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:10.640 Indifferences a bit, but anyways, I was just like, what 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.520 are you doing on Twitter? It's a waste of time. 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:16.400 But anyways, you know, I'm on black Internet, and there's 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.720 beyond this, like film that circulated a lot last year, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:24.760 there's memes and TikTok's and all of this sort of 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:30.839 propaganda that's like really leaning into black people's in America's 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:35.400 inherent distrust of the medical community, which is real, but 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.479 using it in a way to dissuade black people from 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.320 getting the vaccine that they are which will protect them 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:46.559 from a virus which they are disproportionately affected by, which 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.640 is insane. But it's all comes from these like this's 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.440 a group of like basically they call it, I think 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.960 it's like the Dirty Dozen is like the name for it. 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.920 But it's the group of like twelve people who put 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:03.160 out like sixty or of all of the anti vax 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:09.279 misinformation in America. So, yeah, we were targed. So we 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:14.000 were targeted specifically. So the film that you're referring to, 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.640 and this is I'm glad you're bringing it up so 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.240 early in this, But the film that you're referring to 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:24.800 came from former Senator Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The son 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:28.720 of of the Kennedy that everybody liked and the nephew 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.880 of the Kennedy that everybody liked. For a while, and 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.480 then they killed him. I guess they killed both of them, 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:38.040 but one day shot uh I guess cooler than the 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:41.000 other one. Either way, one of them fucked Marilyn Monroe, 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.640 so you know what I mean, Like definitely, Yeah, they all, 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.040 like the boys, had fun and then they got taken 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.760 out of here pretty quickly. But the point is that 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:52.440 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. I think, is much more of 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:57.120 a wild conspiracy theorists and sort of a a person 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:01.800 living in the outliers of the Democrat Raddick Party and 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:06.200 not necessarily a welcomed voice. But he put together this 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:10.840 film entitled Medical Racism the New Apartheid, in which it 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.680 did exactly what you were suggesting. It was meant to 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:19.160 target black and brown people, to get them to to see, 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:22.000 to open their eyes to the possibility that in fact, 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:27.679 the vaccine was wrong and dangerous and meant to hurt them. Yeah, 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.320 and I mean that came out. I think it was 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:32.320 last summer, you know, during that three weeks when we 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.720 forgot about the freaking COVID virus and we were just 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.199 out maskless, you know what I mean, just living our 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.800 lives in June. This is probably I think it came 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:47.640 out before the delta variant really got us. But you know, anecdotally, 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.400 I worked during the pandemic when everything shut down, I 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.960 didn't have a job. I was like, funk, what am 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:56.280 I gonna do? And I worked at a vaccine and 0:08:56.360 --> 0:09:00.840 testing sites in Los Angeles, and so I got to 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:06.680 see firsthand directly from like specifically older black people who 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.560 would be there to take a relative to get the vaccine, 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.280 and I'd be like, I can get you vaccinated right now. 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.000 You just say the word, I'll make you an appointment, 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.440 will set it up. I have an extra shot right 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:18.160 here for you. And they would literally be in the 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:20.760 car holding the hand of their relative and say no, 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:25.000 I'm good DA. So that was before this documentary even 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:28.720 came out. So I think it was that document quote documentary. 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:35.959 I'm doing the finger quotation things for the listeners. We 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.760 got silent mix on this podcast, so when it comes 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:43.240 in hot, it's loud, it's it's a talu size, its slants, 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:47.679 it's underlined, it's bolded. Documents read. So when this came out, 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.360 like I think it's just a kind of a large 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.000 part of a larger wave of stuff that was coming 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:57.120 out about why the vaccine is anti black and we 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:02.440 shouldn't get it. Yeah, it's it's interest thing because so 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:06.600 much of this propaganda, right is it reminds me a lot. 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.800 Maybe this is a good way of entering the what 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.040 I'm trying to say. It reminds me a lot of 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.520 when they told us that that the Russians had hacked 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.960 our elections? Do you know what I mean that? Like 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.720 they said this thing where where for a while it 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:24.480 felt like they had like literally gotten into our database 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.440 and we're changing the votes to to not be for 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.600 Hillary and instead for Trump. And then after a while 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.800 it became clear, Oh, they didn't do nothing but get 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.880 on Facebook and say some wild ship and then a 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.640 bunch of us were already toxic and sick and willing 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:45.000 to play wild ship games, so when they started talking, 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.760 we were like, fuck, yeah, I get down with this ship. 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.080 So it wasn't a a hacking of our elections as 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.439 much as it was them just starting a conversation and 0:10:54.720 --> 0:11:00.840 us being broken enough to continue it. Yeah it, And 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:05.560 I mean the vaccine, Uh, you know, there's something like 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:09.120 five billion people worldwide have gotten it. So like obviously, 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.960 you know, anecdotally, most of us survived it and our 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.600 doing fine in our triple vax and all of that, 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.920 but there's still people who. You know, it's hard to 0:11:21.000 --> 0:11:25.199 change people's minds once they have emotionally connected with an 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.760 idea or I believe it's really hard. Like even though 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.000 like that whole stuff about the election, my mom still 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:37.200 says wild tinfoil hat shit about the Russians involvement in 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:41.280 our election, but she was the main wine shared shipped 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.040 on Facebook. I'm like, Mom, this isn't even a reputable source. 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.040 Where did you read the article? She's like no, but 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:47.920 the headline says it all. I'm like, well, you know, 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:52.760 it's hard to it's hard to disengage our our minds 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:56.440 and hearts from a topic if we believe it to 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:59.640 be true. You know, I think what makes now so 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.000 cool is that we are all trying to be a 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:07.800 helpful resource to other people, like and and this is 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.600 me trying to approach this, I guess with less cynicism 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.080 than I often approach a lot of things. But I 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.400 do think that there's a part of us that's at 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.319 least trying to be a helpful resource where we go, 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.680 like I read this thing about the vaccine or about 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:26.120 COVID or about like all of the ship and then 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:30.160 I'm willing to go share that information with the world 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.120 with the intent that like, I want the people around 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:37.320 me to also be awakened to that truth. But then 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.400 you you see what truth they're trying to awake us too. 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:46.360 When you're like, bro, that's that's dumb. It's that you 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.120 didn't read, Like you can't awake I can't be awakened 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.520 if you didn't read. Yeah, no, I mean, what's the 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.600 name of that gallon TikTok who came up with that? 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.800 Like it's a it's an upside down triangle where it's 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:02.079 like and RC theory will keep you on the hook 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.920 until it starts to get weird, and like everyone sort 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.000 of has this breaking point, but some people never get off, 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.000 and so then they just continue to go on this 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:15.560 massive journey of disinformation because they're hooks. I mean, you 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:19.160 know it's why it's it's uh, it feels like this 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:23.480 unbeatable game almost of like it's it's like you said, 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.120 it's once you're on the hook, you can't fucking get 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:30.200 off the hook. It just it continues to latch onto 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:32.920 in a way that you know, I'm somebody who gets 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:34.680 off the hook quick. I'm like, you know what, this 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:36.480 is a lot of work at a certain point, I'm like, 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.760 it's too much. Listen. I was a B student and 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:41.600 I don't need to, like, you know what I mean. 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.880 I don't like stay involved and do my own resource ship. 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.440 I don't have so many books I haven't read sitting 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.840 on my nightstand right now. Why do I need to 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.400 do my own research about something? It's like I'm done. Yeah, 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:57.360 And frankly most of us were were be students and 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.600 below you know what I mean, Like, there's a reason 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:03.040 a students are a students and it represents a type 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:07.080 of exceptional care in reading and effort, or at least 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.640 pretending learning the game enough to pretend to do so. 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.440 But it it's the reality is a lot of us 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:15.680 probably couldn't do effective research even if we wanted to, 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:20.640 and to pretend Like suddenly at thirty eight, you've like 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.680 you've nailed down how to break break down a peer 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.840 reviewed article. You're full of shit. You don't know anything. 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:30.920 I mean, listen, even in like I was just like, 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:32.840 let me go to the CDC website just to like 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.040 look at an article or two before I come in 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.400 and speak on this like topic with you. And like 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.400 I started scrolling and I was like, well, where are 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.680 the picture graphs. I mean, give me the highlights. I 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.520 was like two paragraphs in and I was like, well, 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:47.880 I gotta find another source because I'm not reading this 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.400 ship right now. No. I feel the exact same way. 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:55.440 I'm I'm literally attempting to make sense of an article 0:14:56.120 --> 0:14:58.760 as we speak, just to be able to to use 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.120 some of that resource when you talk about the research 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.440 and ship and a whole lot of it would be 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:07.480 made easier if there was like a thumb that you know, 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.520 or like one of the pictures where it's like filling 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.520 up to the brim and you just look at the 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.080 number on the brim and you're like, Okay, I understand this, 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:18.400 but it's all these lofty words and in medical terms 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:20.800 that I'm not familiar with, so I the article is 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.520 not gonna make sense to me. I immediately get lost 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:28.040 when it's too many percentages and then like long scientific 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.440 words that I don't know, and I'm like, well, I 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.640 guess that's it. Yeah. What sucks me up is when 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:38.960 they do percentages, like they'll say like, this group represented 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:43.200 this percentage of this thing, and then afterwards they'll say 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.400 what sounds like very similar language and give you a 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.520 different percentage, and then I go, all right, well, which 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:54.240 one is the percent I was looking for for what 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.120 I need? You know what I mean? Like, I don't 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.920 know how to always parse out the difference in terms 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.080 of like what these numbers to represent. And that truly 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:05.040 is the reason people go to school is to be 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:09.320 able to like differentiate between what things mean. And I 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.200 didn't do that. I went to school for fucking poetry. 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.440 I have no clue what any of this is. Yeah, 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.360 I dropped out of acting school, so you know what 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:21.440 I mean, Like, honestly, it's the same boat, different but 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.480 you're you're doing it now. Huh look at look at you. 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:28.800 A whole bunch of fucking idiots probably stayed in school 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:33.760 and and aren't on TV shows, right, people who fucking 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:38.600 took math beyond geometry. Good for them, I guess, Yeah, no, 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:44.160 you should. You guys should feel stupid. Yeah, dummies, Madison said, 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:50.480 sucker dick, you dumb dumbs. Okay, So you're you're clearly 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.920 not on board with or, at least from what I'm gathering, 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:55.560 you're not a n anti vax or you're not a 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:59.920 person on board with any of what this this propaga 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.040 and is asking us to believe. I guess the question 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.159 I want to ask you before we go to break 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:09.520 is do you feel uh And I'm specifically asking this 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.840 from I guess a black perspective, whatever that means, But 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:18.120 do you feel like you at least understand or or 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:23.879 connect with why this anti VAXX propaganda matters so much 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:27.720 to the black community. I mean, again, just an anecdote here, 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.440 but when I was working at the vaccine site, when 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.359 when I found out in November that there would be 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:38.640 a vaccine coming and that we because we were working 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.080 what was testing at the time, but we were working 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.480 and testing in vaccines, that we would be first on 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.360 the list to get the vaccine. Initially, I was like, 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.159 looking around other black people at the sidelight, we're not 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:54.520 gonna do this right, Like yeah, y'all, go ahead, y'all first, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.439 go ahead, I'll catch up with you later, Like I 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.520 don't think that's off for me. And then came anywarry 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.600 one and they were like, um, so, who wants to 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:09.760 get the vaccine? And I raised my hand. First, let 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.159 me tell you, not of the people, you know what 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.480 I mean? And not only that, but I looked at 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:16.679 other black people and I was like you have to 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:18.040 get it, you know what I mean. You have to 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:19.800 get it. Like we're getting it, you know what I mean. 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:25.960 So I understand why people have been unsure of getting it, 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.000 but just due to the history and all that. But like, frankly, 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.160 like people are smarter than me, and I just gotta 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:36.159 listen to like the scientist and you know, yeah, you know, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.440 I think that's um That's similar to how I sort 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.240 of approached it. I didn't want to be first in 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.280 line by any means, and I like had a lot 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:48.399 of hesitancy that you can probably even track in the 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:51.400 communication on this podcast. There was a points where I'm like, 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.679 I don't know about fucker. I'm not saying don't do it, 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:59.000 but takeing time. But then it reached a point where 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.639 it was like I really want to go back outside, 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:03.760 and I think this is how I do it. So 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:07.240 I'm a I'm willing to get this shot because whatever, 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:12.119 especially the fear, like I think I I relate most 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:16.240 with the fear that the government has obviously demonstrated a 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:21.119 a very intentional history of poisoning black people and other 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:24.560 types of people of color over the course of centuries. 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.199 Right that, like literally if you look throughout, Like the 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:30.960 type of ships and ship that they've done. Puerto Rico 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:34.480 is a great example, like literally they have they have 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:39.160 made it so that, uh, infertility in Puerto Rico is 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:43.240 like the the largest in any country in the world 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.600 because of and I know Puerto Rico is not technically, 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:51.080 but the point is that that territory is so fucked 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:53.800 up because of intentional work that the government was doing 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:57.720 to basically make women infertile. Like it is not we 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.880 we would be remiss, I guess too, to pretend as 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:04.320 if like the government doesn't have ill will at times 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.600 towards people of color or poor people or whatever it is. 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:11.479 That said, if that's the fear, I can respect it. 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.600 Let's negotiate, let's figure out an answer. But if the 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.760 fear is that these motherfucker's are micro chipping me or 0:20:17.800 --> 0:20:19.680 that like there this is gonna be a way that 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:23.440 they're gonna track my movements, go ahead, dog, I'm just 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.800 I'm just going to bed at around nine thirty to 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:30.800 take thirty every day. You're not getting anything special out 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:34.439 of me. I'm not chirping about that ship, you know, Yeah, yeah, 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:40.000 for sure, for sure, Yeah I move Yeah, So that's 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:42.960 I get it. I was hesitant, but you found your 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.840 way to the other side of it. And hopefully, hopefully 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.639 they are micro chipping us and they're they're real disappointed 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.160 with what they're finding, and they'll just shut the chips down. 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.200 You know, no, I'll be honest. The real micro chip 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:58.399 is already in your hand. You know it's already you 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.320 already got it. They're already trying you. Wait a minute, 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:06.119 they get That's how they get you. I don't disagree, sweetie. 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:09.359 If the government wants to find your ass, they're gonna 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.399 find you. They're gonna find it. And it's not because 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:15.679 they stuck up. You know. Five million leaders are not 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:17.639 even meliotes or whatever. They stuck a percentage of a 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:22.119 syringe in your arm. It's not because of that. Yeah, yeah, 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:24.960 for some reason, and five million leaders in my head 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:28.840 sounded like leaders and not meliote you know what I mean? 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:32.640 My god, damn, we got five leaders effect that will 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:36.320 kill us. That is why everybody's so concerned with what 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:38.320 this is. You know what I started to say, the 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:40.720 number of what I tried to remember it was, but 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.679 then I was like, bitch, you you barely made it 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.240 through Earth science. Come on, now you don't know what 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:49.680 you're talking about. And that's okay. It's okay. We're all 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:52.600 thriving as best week gained. We're okay, We're gonna take 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.000 a break. We'll be back with more medicine Shephard and more, 0:21:55.040 --> 0:22:16.120 my mama told me, and we are, Yeah, we're back 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:18.879 here were more medicine shepherd more. My mama told me. 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:22.120 We're still talking about the possibility that black people are 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:28.200 being intentionally targeted by propaganda, uh, anti vaxx propaganda. Let's 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:30.199 let me ask you this question. Do you think that 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:35.680 black people are similarly being targeted by like vaccine propaganda? 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:39.000 Are they like making some weird extra effort with us 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:42.240 on that side of things? Yes? Absolutely. I don't know 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.720 if you remember last year. I don't see it as 0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:49.040 much this year, but you know, they always have like 0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:53.159 some medical it's a public health commercial, or it's a 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:55.919 commercial for a cell phone, or it's a commercial, and 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:58.600 it's always like, hey, y'all, let me tell you about 0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:02.080 the new miss to bet Galant. I can't even say 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:05.160 the word, but you know, it's always it's But there 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:09.199 was so many weird vaccine commercials telling black people, and 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:10.960 I was like this is never gonna work, you know 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:15.000 what I mean? There were I agree, there were some 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:18.520 pretty odd ones, I feel like, and I truly don't 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:21.119 remember it well enough to even be able to articulate 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.240 it fairly, But I do remember watching a commercial that 0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:26.840 essentially had the feeling of a dude being like, what's up, 0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:31.520 niggas ah me and me and the squad is doing? 0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:35.639 Is getting vaccinated out here? If you ain't vaccinating, you 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:38.040 can't get down with our crew. And it's like, if 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:41.320 the funk out of you, ain't nobody talking like this, 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:44.280 This isn't a real human being that you like found. 0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:48.200 This is truly the most hateful stereotype you could come 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:51.720