WEBVTT - How Slinky Works

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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<v Speaker 1>There's Charles W Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry over there,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the stuff you should know projecting from

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<v Speaker 1>Studio one A. Just us. It's not us on stage

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<v Speaker 1>in front of hundreds of the doring fans. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>feel all lift with We just got back from our

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<v Speaker 1>tour and it's just us again. Yeah, there's a paper,

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<v Speaker 1>I kea lamp with a dimmer that makes it turn

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<v Speaker 1>into a strobe light even though it's not to post to.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's a toolbox over there. That's it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more fun to do this on stage in

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<v Speaker 1>front of people, it turns out. I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>do it again because the West Coast tour was pretty fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so keep your eyes peeled. Um, perhaps Philly, d C,

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<v Speaker 1>New York in Boston, don't literally peel your eyes. Perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>Chapel Hill. Oh, we can't announce anything yet, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>just teasing with those cities that will be in in June. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're actually going to Providence. Are we just kidding? They

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<v Speaker 1>were like ten people in Providence going yeah. Oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to go to Boston a game. Uh so,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing? You still jet lagged? I have

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<v Speaker 1>recovered somewhat. Um. I have to say that the city

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<v Speaker 1>of Seattle, there's a place I could live. It's beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>except for the weather. Like we had a good and

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to fall in love both a place if

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<v Speaker 1>you're there for like a great weekend, because it was

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful when it was it was gorgeous. But I told

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<v Speaker 1>Emily she was all fired up to um, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nine months out of the year, it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>depressing with the weather bleak, and I think you're just

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<v Speaker 1>used to it. To feel about there, I guess you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're hearty. Everybody seemed to have their spirits up, though

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it was the weather. I assumed it was because

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<v Speaker 1>we were in town, but now that I think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>it could have definitely been the weather. Well, Portland's fans

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<v Speaker 1>stood in line in the rain, and I felt all bad,

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<v Speaker 1>but that I was like, they stand in line for

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<v Speaker 1>in the rain all the time, for everything, gas, donuts,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you. Yeah. Yeah, So anyway, thanks to everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who came out. It was so so fun. Yes, l

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<v Speaker 1>A San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, from both of us, from

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry to Ye, from everybody, heartfelt, hearty, thank you. Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>was a regular hot shot, you know with ws so

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<v Speaker 1>uh chuck. Yes, did you ever have a slinky when

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<v Speaker 1>you were a kid. Sure, I feel like I played

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<v Speaker 1>with them. I definitely played with them. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>actually owning a slinky at any point, least yours. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just kind of one of those things that

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, always around there was always a slinky.

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<v Speaker 1>You could get your hands on a slinky. But you

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember getting a slinky right and saying this is

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<v Speaker 1>Mike slinky, or going to the toy store and saying like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want a slinky. But I did love slinkies whenever

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<v Speaker 1>I played with them. Uh. It turns out I was

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<v Speaker 1>just one of many many children over the last sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seventy years that have loved slinky. I was frustrated by

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<v Speaker 1>my slinky a bit because I never I never had

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<v Speaker 1>stairs that it worked well on. You know, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>thought never had stairs, Like, yeah, I'll bet you're frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>with slinky. No, I had stairs going up to my room.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was you know, if you don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>right height and depth of stair. It just stopped and

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<v Speaker 1>they still got to do it again. Were they for

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<v Speaker 1>like really long feet, were they wide stairs or were

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<v Speaker 1>they really taller? What was the deal? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I felt like they were standard stairs. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it just didn't like them. Well, it would

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<v Speaker 1>get all I had the metal ones, it would get

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<v Speaker 1>all uh you know how they would tend to get tangled. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was sort of the hallmark of the metal slinky.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, like people's hair would get caught in. And

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<v Speaker 1>now that I'm an adult looking back, I'm like, how

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<v Speaker 1>did anybody's hair get caught in the slinky? What was

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<v Speaker 1>the deal? But when it happened, it hurt. I've kids

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<v Speaker 1>would like wrap slinkys around each other. I remember using

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<v Speaker 1>slinky like as rope like handcuffs. Oh yeah, Like you'd

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<v Speaker 1>wrap it around your friend and then sort of just

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<v Speaker 1>latch it and you'd be like a slinky like attaching

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<v Speaker 1>a knife to one end and like yeah, yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>jamming it toward somebody that there's this guy on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there's a YouTube video of a guy called slinky Master.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, and he is good. He's just like basically

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<v Speaker 1>like moving it from one hand to another, making it

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<v Speaker 1>do all this awesome stuff in the middle. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>a rainbow slinky and I think it might be like

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<v Speaker 1>Glow in the Dark too. Holy cow, but he is

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good I say, go check it out. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta definitely want to check that out. Oh and actually,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a new thing on our website on our

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<v Speaker 1>podcast pages, so like the page where you can go

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<v Speaker 1>listen to any podcast on our site, there's now um

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<v Speaker 1>a like an additional links section where it has stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that we talk about. It links out to articles that

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<v Speaker 1>we use for extra research. They'll be on this Slinky

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<v Speaker 1>episode podcast page a link to that um Slinky Master.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't even need to google that. You just basically

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<v Speaker 1>make step You should know your homepage and we can

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<v Speaker 1>take care of it for you. Yeah, and we're bringing

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<v Speaker 1>back transcriptions right yep, which we are super happy about

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<v Speaker 1>because we used to have transcriptions for our friends in

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<v Speaker 1>the deaf and Heart of Hearing community and then we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do it for a while and they were like

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<v Speaker 1>what gives Yeah, And so we've been working to get

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<v Speaker 1>those back and I think they're going to be back now.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's slinky good night. Oh wait, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>start yet, so um, I had no idea while I

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<v Speaker 1>was watching people get their hair caught in slink ease

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<v Speaker 1>or playing with them in general that um, they had

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of a pretty neat history until I ran

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<v Speaker 1>across this article from Price in Nomics, written by a

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<v Speaker 1>dude named Zachary Crockett. Yeah, big, thanks, This is a

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<v Speaker 1>good article. It is um. It's called the Invention of

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<v Speaker 1>is Slinky? And in it, uh, Crockett starts at a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty reasonable place, the birth of the inventors Thanky, Richard Thompson, James,

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<v Speaker 1>Rick James, and then in this slinky, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he went by Rick. No, he went by Mr James,

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<v Speaker 1>inventors slinky. Yes. He was born in nineteen fourteen in Delaware,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh apparently his brother Samuel said that he was

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<v Speaker 1>always a pretty enterprising, mechanically oriented type of kid, because

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<v Speaker 1>he had this one story about when he was like

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<v Speaker 1>a thirteen, he found an old car and literally like

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<v Speaker 1>fixed the car up well enough to sell it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had like mice running around living in um and

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<v Speaker 1>he sold it for twenty five bucks, which I went

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<v Speaker 1>to West Egg and converted that thirty seven dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand fourteen. Money not bad for a thirteen year old,

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<v Speaker 1>that's yeah. But it was a car. Whoever bought it

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<v Speaker 1>got a good deal, that's what she's saying. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably didn't get rid of the mice. He just

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<v Speaker 1>got the thing to run again. Plus it wasn't his

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<v Speaker 1>car anyway, he just took it, licks it up. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the mice's car. So in the nineteen thirties

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<v Speaker 1>he went to Penn State and did study mechanical engineering. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was just a tinkerer, so it made a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of sense. Yeah. Uh. I find that often when people

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<v Speaker 1>like you've researched the people who invented like a circuit

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<v Speaker 1>board for an amp or something. It seems like that

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<v Speaker 1>starts when you're very very young. Just interesting, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. You don't get into mechanical engineering in your twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you ditch psychology for a mechanical engineering degree. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My brother went the other way. He was an aerospace

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<v Speaker 1>engineering major and he switched to psychology. Did he really?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. Yeah, he wanted to be an astronaut.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome, but not like a six year old. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I wanted to be an astronaut. He liked

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<v Speaker 1>to be a cowboy to cowboys, you grew up to

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<v Speaker 1>actually be cowboys. Um So, anyway, he got a mechanical

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<v Speaker 1>engineering degree and then uh started work as a naval engineer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it makes sense. It was World War two, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you did. Yeah, and to go fight Hitler.

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<v Speaker 1>So he did. He fought it from behind a desk

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<v Speaker 1>because they're like, you're a mechanical engineer, you just sit

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<v Speaker 1>here and figure out how you can make our weapons

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<v Speaker 1>of war better. And he was actually working on something,

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<v Speaker 1>um that you springs, something that basically kept some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of electronics on battleships. I think it had to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the measuring horsepower. Yeah, it was a horsepower meter

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<v Speaker 1>that I guess if you're in rough waves that would

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<v Speaker 1>mess with the meter. Yeah, and you didn't want it

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<v Speaker 1>rocking all over the place, that you would use springs

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it intact or keep it from moving around

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<v Speaker 1>too much. Right. Um So, while he was tinkering around

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<v Speaker 1>with one of this, he quite by accident knocked over

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff. I don't think it was in a fit

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<v Speaker 1>of rage. It was accidental and one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>he knocked over included a spring, and he watched the

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<v Speaker 1>spring fall off the shelf in a nice graceful arc

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<v Speaker 1>hit a book go over from the book onto the desk,

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<v Speaker 1>and then from the desk onto the floor in this

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<v Speaker 1>nice our arching manner exactly, and he said, let's try

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<v Speaker 1>that again. Yeah, it's apparently captivated by it. It's pretty neat,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is literally one of those toys you can

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<v Speaker 1>trace back to one of those silly fluke moments, like

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<v Speaker 1>the microwave. Was that the same thing? He was, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. Oh man, I can't remember what the actual

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<v Speaker 1>the actual thing that makes the microwave. The microwave was

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<v Speaker 1>discovered by accident that it was, Yeah, that it had

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<v Speaker 1>these properties that um like a guy had a chocolate

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<v Speaker 1>bar in his shirt because melted melt. He's like, wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, So of course he logically brand and grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>some popcorn and saw that that happened, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>microwave is born. Yeah, I think a slinky is actually

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<v Speaker 1>the only place that's on our website is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those our top ten accidental inventions or something, And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>bet microwaves are in there too. I'm sure it is UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically, you're right. The lightbulb went off over his

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<v Speaker 1>head and he went home and told his lovely wife Betty, Betty, Betty,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I got something here, and I just need

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to how to make it to

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<v Speaker 1>where it keeps doing this thing. I'm gonna try, because

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<v Speaker 1>you can't just get any spring and throw it on

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<v Speaker 1>a step, No you can. There's all sorts of different

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of springs that turns out, you know, like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a tension spring that they use on mouse traps, and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's the slinky spring. But now the slinky spring

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<v Speaker 1>is this super refined type of spring that was designed

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of a year through trial and error

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<v Speaker 1>to have just the right tension, just the right shape,

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<v Speaker 1>just the right size of the coils, just the right

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<v Speaker 1>everything so that it really accentuated that graceful flow, that

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<v Speaker 1>arcing flow that it it has that makes it the slinky.

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<v Speaker 1>And it took him like a year of tinkering with

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<v Speaker 1>all these different tensions and um types of materials before

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<v Speaker 1>he finally hit upon it. Yeah, and I think he

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<v Speaker 1>settled on a point zero five seven in diameter high

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<v Speaker 1>carbon steel UM the original slinkys were black metal, which

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<v Speaker 1>was kind a cool looking um by the time, like

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<v Speaker 1>we were kids. I think they just um they had

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<v Speaker 1>the shiny silver ones, and then of course we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to the plastic that came along later too, but the

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<v Speaker 1>first ones were black um and it demonstrates uh property

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<v Speaker 1>and physics called So I ran across this like super

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<v Speaker 1>hardcore physics forum where somebody posted that they were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the physics of slinky and somebody's like, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like Hook's law is a good place to start, and

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<v Speaker 1>they got piled off. They said that Hooks law has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the amount of force a spring exerts

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<v Speaker 1>on something it's attached to. So I think with Hook's law,

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<v Speaker 1>if it does apply, what you're talking about is the

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<v Speaker 1>force being transferred from one end of the slinky to

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<v Speaker 1>the other, and that as the as the momentum at

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<v Speaker 1>the front of the slinky goes downward, that same amount

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<v Speaker 1>is transferred to the back and it's pulled forward and

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<v Speaker 1>it just keeps going end over end. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if Hook's law does apply or not, but if

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<v Speaker 1>it does, that's my understanding of how it would apply. Yeah,

0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the one definition I saw was that. Um. It basically

0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.880
<v Speaker 1>means a spring will return to its original shape once

0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.360
<v Speaker 1>the load is removed. So that makes sense, right, Um.

0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.720
<v Speaker 1>But there's another thing, at least one other thing going

0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.040
<v Speaker 1>on with the slinky, and that is that it goes

0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.800
<v Speaker 1>along a longitudinal wave. So just like a sound wave,

0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.839
<v Speaker 1>basically a slinky is a sound wave slowed down or

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<v Speaker 1>the same type of wave as a as a sound wave,

0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.760
<v Speaker 1>and it slowed down and as the slinky is moving

0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.480
<v Speaker 1>on a molecular level molecule, the molecule is pushing the

0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.960
<v Speaker 1>ones in front of it forward, and then the whole

0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:41.280
<v Speaker 1>thing starts over again once it reaches uh equilibrium. That

0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.400
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a great explanation to me. Yes, No, that's

0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.640
<v Speaker 1>all right. It avoids equilibrium. Once it hits equilibrium, it stops.

0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:50.880
<v Speaker 1>But the whole thing starts with the slinky just sitting

0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:52.200
<v Speaker 1>there at the top of the step, and what it

0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.640
<v Speaker 1>has there is potential energy. It's story. Yeah, you gotta

0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:58.280
<v Speaker 1>move it to get that kinetic energy going. When I

0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.000
<v Speaker 1>was a kid, I just remember staring at it. It's

0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.320
<v Speaker 1>like it's not doing nothing. This is where slinky and

0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:08.280
<v Speaker 1>our ESP episodes collide. How's that you're just staring at slinky,

0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.840
<v Speaker 1>willing it to move. All right, So he comes up

0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.319
<v Speaker 1>with this little slinky. It works like a charm, his

0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.760
<v Speaker 1>little prototype. Uh. He does the smart thing, which is

0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.040
<v Speaker 1>if you want to find out if kids actually will

0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:24.360
<v Speaker 1>enjoy it. He got the neighborhood together and uk to

0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.160
<v Speaker 1>some kids and they went nuts. They were like, this

0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.719
<v Speaker 1>thing is amazing. Yeah, stop hitting that other kid with

0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:31.600
<v Speaker 1>those sticks and come over and play with this toy

0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.040
<v Speaker 1>that I came up with. Let me know what you think.

0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:37.080
<v Speaker 1>And they wrapped up that kid in the spring, got

0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.920
<v Speaker 1>it caught in that kid's hair. So this is perfect.

0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.520
<v Speaker 1>He's like, this is Gangbusters. And I mean like he

0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:47.600
<v Speaker 1>saw from that very early back of the envelope market

0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.520
<v Speaker 1>research that he did with the neighborhood kids, it made

0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:53.480
<v Speaker 1>him a believer. Yeah, Like he saw that kids really

0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:57.040
<v Speaker 1>were into this thing, and I got the impression that

0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.800
<v Speaker 1>it At no point was he like this thing is

0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.520
<v Speaker 1>is amazing, it's supernatural. He's like, this is a it's

0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.040
<v Speaker 1>really cool. It's a spring. It's physics, but it just

0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.440
<v Speaker 1>looks really neat and it is somehow weirdly captivating. Yeah.

0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I think they say that one in a thousand toys

0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:15.640
<v Speaker 1>hits it big, yeah, something like that. Yeah. So, I

0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:19.640
<v Speaker 1>mean there are toy inventors that labor for their entire

0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.160
<v Speaker 1>lives and never hit on something like the slinky. I mean,

0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.720
<v Speaker 1>it's one of the top ten toys in history when

0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:33.200
<v Speaker 1>they go slinky. So Betty, his wife, wasn't super Um. Well,

0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.680
<v Speaker 1>she was a little skeptical at first, which will learn

0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.960
<v Speaker 1>later is pretty ironic, very ironic. Um. And he actually

0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.280
<v Speaker 1>tasted her with naming it though. And she is the

0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:44.080
<v Speaker 1>one that found the word slinky in the dictionary. Apparently

0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.760
<v Speaker 1>she spent like several weeks looking for just the right word. Well,

0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, what else was she doing? Kids? Right, exactly?

0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:53.560
<v Speaker 1>She had a lot of downtime. So um, right after

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<v Speaker 1>this break, we will talk a little bit about how

0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:59.720
<v Speaker 1>it went from a just a garage neighborhood idea to

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest selling toys ever. All right, so

0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:22.320
<v Speaker 1>he's got a slinky, he's got the prototype, he gets

0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.440
<v Speaker 1>a five hundred dollar a loan to start from a

0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:29.920
<v Speaker 1>friend to start James Spring and Wire Company LC. Yeah,

0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.240
<v Speaker 1>pretty good name. Yeah. Well, and you got the five

0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.160
<v Speaker 1>bucks apparently pretty easy from the friend by just showing

0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.080
<v Speaker 1>him the slinky. Yeah, and he was like, how much

0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.000
<v Speaker 1>do you need? I didn't look up how much five

0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:43.520
<v Speaker 1>bucks is, but uh, in but we can guess that

0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.880
<v Speaker 1>it's uh about forty million. No, no, no, because I

0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:53.720
<v Speaker 1>think it's about let's see, it was about I think

0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.880
<v Speaker 1>bucks probably roughly today, which I mean that's substantial. They

0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.000
<v Speaker 1>give a friend and it was enough to get things going.

0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I think he really, I mean he had the prototype,

0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:08.800
<v Speaker 1>he just needed an official company banner basically. So he

0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:13.960
<v Speaker 1>has his machine shop and he has his prototype, and

0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.360
<v Speaker 1>he gets a bunch of wire and he makes a

0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.880
<v Speaker 1>bunch of slinkies. Well, he goes through his local machine

0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.760
<v Speaker 1>shop first, right, So he's at his local machine shop

0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.920
<v Speaker 1>and he and he makes four slinkies. Uh there were

0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.040
<v Speaker 1>two and a half inches tall, contained eighty feet of wire,

0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.680
<v Speaker 1>which that's pretty impressive. I didn't know it was nearly

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<v Speaker 1>that much. But it makes sense, I guess because I

0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:38.080
<v Speaker 1>think every kid's tried to uncoil theirs fully, you know. Yeah,

0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.840
<v Speaker 1>And apparently slinky starts out as like normal round wire,

0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.760
<v Speaker 1>but then they smush it to make it flat. Yeah,

0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.440
<v Speaker 1>because it's got to be flat to perform and sit

0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.600
<v Speaker 1>on itself. Yeah. I didn't I didn't realize though that

0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, it makes sense, but he didn't realize

0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it started out as like a round, like diameter type wire. Yeah,

0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.360
<v Speaker 1>but what kind of what kind of metal did he

0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:04.840
<v Speaker 1>started out? Um, Swedish steel, high grade blue black Swedish steel.

0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Guess that was the wire of the day. Um. And

0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.760
<v Speaker 1>it was in ninety eight coils and at first they

0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.639
<v Speaker 1>just wrapped it in parchment paper. Um. Later on I

0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.680
<v Speaker 1>think they packaged it in just a box like it's

0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.159
<v Speaker 1>in today, right, Actually today, I think it's in that

0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:23.000
<v Speaker 1>awful plastic stuff that you can't open. Oh is it now? Well,

0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:26.120
<v Speaker 1>they have a throwback you can get yeah that it's

0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:29.720
<v Speaker 1>still like modeled after the original box, which is kind

0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:31.520
<v Speaker 1>of neat. Yeah, So I don't see why he wouldn't

0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:35.040
<v Speaker 1>get that one personally. So with the original metal slinky

0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and the whole history from the time he walked into

0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.000
<v Speaker 1>that metal shop the first time, once he had the

0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:46.200
<v Speaker 1>prototype figured out h throughout today, there was only one

0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.800
<v Speaker 1>design change in the whole time, and that was to

0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.880
<v Speaker 1>crimp the ends that after it was produced to keep

0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it from tangling. Is easy and um for safety. So

0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.119
<v Speaker 1>it didn't like cut some kid's eye out right. So

0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.600
<v Speaker 1>after a bunch of kid's eyes were cut out, they Acrymthian.

0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they had four sight or if

0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.600
<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't response to eyes being gouged out, but

0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and I mean still today I went on Amazon to

0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.280
<v Speaker 1>double check and the slinky is still two and a

0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.439
<v Speaker 1>half inches tall. It didn't say how many coils it

0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.800
<v Speaker 1>was because they didn't get that descriptive, but that it's

0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the same thing as it was back in five. Yeah,

0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:27.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised they didn't have like, uh, you know the

0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Mega X streamlink that like um powered by Mountain Dew

0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.960
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. You know, they probably do have that. Actually,

0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I love that though the original slinky is still like

0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:46.560
<v Speaker 1>it exact same Yeah, the original metal ones. Yeah, why

0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:50.600
<v Speaker 1>change something that's perfect? Right? Right? And and so the

0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the the James has knew that this thing was perfect,

0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:57.360
<v Speaker 1>had a great name, worked really well. The neighborhood kids

0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.840
<v Speaker 1>loved it. So of course this thing's gonna become like

0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:02.680
<v Speaker 1>a hit right out of the gate, right. Nope, No,

0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.400
<v Speaker 1>you're being coy. My friend uh he took it to

0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:11.520
<v Speaker 1>uh toy stores and the there was one storekeeper said,

0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.199
<v Speaker 1>this is the atomic age it's want big, bright, fancy

0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.480
<v Speaker 1>things with lots of colors and lights. We couldn't give

0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.520
<v Speaker 1>the thing away if it played God Bless America and

0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:21.240
<v Speaker 1>picked up the Daily Double as it walked down the steps.

0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.400
<v Speaker 1>That's very cynical. It is very cynical. He used exclamation

0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:29.199
<v Speaker 1>points and stuff. Um, but James, Rick James was like,

0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm Rick James, and you don't tell me what to

0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.760
<v Speaker 1>do with my toys. And he got in such a Gimbals,

0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:38.760
<v Speaker 1>who is very famous as the Macy's competitor from le

0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.199
<v Speaker 1>thirty fourth Street, the only reason most of us have

0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:45.800
<v Speaker 1>ever heard of Gimbals. Um and Gimbals in Philadelphia apparently

0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.919
<v Speaker 1>said do you know what I like you? I like

0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.959
<v Speaker 1>the way you smell. I'm going to put your toys

0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:54.560
<v Speaker 1>in our Christmas display and we'll just see where it

0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:57.200
<v Speaker 1>goes from there. Yeah, he was local at that, living

0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.200
<v Speaker 1>outside of Philly, right. I wonder if that so he

0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:02.360
<v Speaker 1>eventually moved outside of Philly, but I'm not sure exactly

0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:04.480
<v Speaker 1>where they were at this point. It would make sense,

0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:07.560
<v Speaker 1>although it's entirely possible he was hustling hard enough that

0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.840
<v Speaker 1>he was just hitting department stores all over the Northeast.

0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Well and Delawares not too far anyway, so yeah, they

0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.040
<v Speaker 1>may have still been in Delaware, but they m they

0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:19.000
<v Speaker 1>did talk the Philadelphia Gimbals into putting this on their

0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:25.159
<v Speaker 1>Christmas display. So in Christmas November, the slinky debuts to

0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:28.320
<v Speaker 1>public and it immediately takes off like a rocket. Right.

0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:35.199
<v Speaker 1>No again that was double koy. Uh no it it

0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:37.639
<v Speaker 1>for weeks just sat there because of course it's just

0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:41.119
<v Speaker 1>this thing that kids had never seen before, the spring

0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and parchment paper sitting between like really awesome toys. Yeah,

0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.280
<v Speaker 1>it's just like all it's nothing but potential energy at

0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:51.080
<v Speaker 1>that point, there's like a spring sitting between those atomic

0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.800
<v Speaker 1>aged toys that that one shopkeeper was using exclamation points about,

0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:56.680
<v Speaker 1>right yeah, I mean if there if there was ever

0:20:56.760 --> 0:21:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a toy that needed a demonstration um to delight in amaze,

0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:06.400
<v Speaker 1>it was the slinky. So very frustrated with this um,

0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Richard James apparently said to his wife, like, I'm going

0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.240
<v Speaker 1>down to Gimbals and I'm going to deal with this

0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:16.480
<v Speaker 1>head on and um. He said, meet me there in

0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:19.200
<v Speaker 1>like ninety minutes or something like that. So he went

0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:20.920
<v Speaker 1>down there. He took a couple of slinkies out of

0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:24.960
<v Speaker 1>their parchment paper and started looking dummies. Yeah, you stupid kids,

0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:28.680
<v Speaker 1>keep your hair away, but check this out. And um

0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:31.280
<v Speaker 1>he started playing with them, and apparently by the time

0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:34.399
<v Speaker 1>Betty got down there, ninety minutes later, he had sold

0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:37.240
<v Speaker 1>all four hundred slinkies and there was apparently a line

0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.639
<v Speaker 1>around the block asking for more. Yeah, that sounds like

0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.080
<v Speaker 1>such a trumped up story, but you know, I love

0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:46.399
<v Speaker 1>it though. It was like, within ninety minutes, It's great.

0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:49.080
<v Speaker 1>The world was slinky crazy. Yeah, the Santa f a

0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:51.480
<v Speaker 1>miracle on thirty fourth Street comes through and does like

0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 1>a little twirl and goes out of frame again. But

0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:57.000
<v Speaker 1>he did sell those four hundred units that day, supposedly,

0:21:57.000 --> 0:22:00.280
<v Speaker 1>and by Christmas, uh, they had sold twenty and so

0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:03.640
<v Speaker 1>it really did take off super pass once kids understood

0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:05.720
<v Speaker 1>what the heck it was, and that was that's a

0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:08.800
<v Speaker 1>significant amount of money, Chuck, I used west Egg this

0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:12.119
<v Speaker 1>time one dollar. They sold him for a dollar a piece.

0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:15.280
<v Speaker 1>So he sold four hundred units and twenty thousand by

0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:18.600
<v Speaker 1>the end of Christmas. That translates to like thirteen dollars

0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:22.520
<v Speaker 1>in today's money. So imagine being a parent today and

0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:24.800
<v Speaker 1>being like, you want me to pay thirteen dollars for

0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:28.520
<v Speaker 1>a spring. Are you crazy? But they still managed to

0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:32.000
<v Speaker 1>capture the public imagination just right, and the thing just

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:35.719
<v Speaker 1>spread like wildfire, not just in Christmas of nineteen by

0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Christmas of nineteen forty seven, there was a New York

0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Times article and like the fashion section talking about how

0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the must have adornment of the year was a slinky

0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:49.120
<v Speaker 1>dipped in gold with glitter. It sounds like something Edward

0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Burne's might have cooked up, right, Yeah, I think so. Um.

0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that Another cool thing is they remained a

0:22:56.119 --> 0:23:00.920
<v Speaker 1>dollar for a lot of their life. And um it

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:03.119
<v Speaker 1>said in this article here that in the mid nineties

0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:05.560
<v Speaker 1>are only a dollar eighty nine. Um, now they're like

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:07.919
<v Speaker 1>four or five bucks. It looks like I saw again

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 1>on Amazon, Amazon, Amazon dot com Amazon, Uh, it was

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.120
<v Speaker 1>like two nine. It was the lowest I saw. Hey,

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:17.440
<v Speaker 1>that's a good deal for a slinky. But even still, Yeah,

0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:19.199
<v Speaker 1>if you want a great deal on anything, go to

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Amazon dot com. I saw others that, other nameless online

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:25.800
<v Speaker 1>toy store retailers that were supposed to do four or

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:29.920
<v Speaker 1>five bucks. No Amazon, I could see that though. Four

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 1>or five bucks that makes sense. But the point is is,

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.119
<v Speaker 1>for a very long time, still pretty cheap. Yeah, it

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:37.880
<v Speaker 1>stayed the same even as the cost of living increased,

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:41.640
<v Speaker 1>so it's relative price went down tremendously. And they did

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:44.399
<v Speaker 1>that on purpose. Well, and that was yeah, exactly. That

0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:46.880
<v Speaker 1>was one of the things that as we'll see here shortly,

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Betty's one of her favorite things. What is it, uh

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 1>that kids could have a cheap toy, and she wanted

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:56.440
<v Speaker 1>even poor kids to be able to buy something. And uh,

0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:00.680
<v Speaker 1>here's my spring, here's the sink. Just give me a dollar.

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:04.160
<v Speaker 1>So the James is and by this time they were

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 1>they were pretty pretty much partnership from what I understand,

0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:10.360
<v Speaker 1>at the very least, um, Betty was playing some sort

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:14.160
<v Speaker 1>of supporting role, at least as an advisor possibly um.

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:16.840
<v Speaker 1>But again they had like six kids and she was

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:20.200
<v Speaker 1>raising them. Uh so it was really mostly Richard running

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the company. But they took the Slinky to the the

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Toy Fair, the American Toy Fair in New York, which

0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:28.680
<v Speaker 1>is the same one that Barbie debuted at in the fifties.

0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:32.679
<v Speaker 1>I think Barbarie registered trademark um and they took Slinky

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:37.160
<v Speaker 1>there and they did it all themselves. They pitched the thing,

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and they had people from toy stores and department stores

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 1>from around the country just signing up and slinky was

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:48.400
<v Speaker 1>he you. Apparently they made the equivalent of a billion

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:50.919
<v Speaker 1>dollars in the first two years. Yeah, he sold more

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 1>than a hundred million in the first two years of production.

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. A hundred million. A hundred million, and this

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 1>is the population of you know, the mid forties. It's

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.160
<v Speaker 1>not like you know nowadays, that would be a little

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.159
<v Speaker 1>more believable. I think so well, no, think about it,

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:08.400
<v Speaker 1>I we I wish I would have thought of that. Like,

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 1>there probably weren't too terribly more, much more than a

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred million people in the US at the time, So

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that's like a slinky for every person in the US,

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>slinky in every pot. Right, So things were going so well,

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 1>he realized that my my machine shop here in uh Delaware, Delaware,

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>suburban Pennsylvania, which whichever it was, is not up to snuff,

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and I need to set up my own shop. So

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>he did that in Albany, New York. And it was like,

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm a I'm an inventor. I'm just gonna make my

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 1>own machine that can make our own slinkies at a

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 1>rate of uh five seconds a pop. Yeah, the old

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 1>machine shop was making them in a couple of minutes

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:53.680
<v Speaker 1>per slinking, which was fast for back then, I think.

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, so Richard James said, I'm going to make

0:25:56.000 --> 0:26:00.239
<v Speaker 1>my own machine. That's that's really cool. Absolutely, I think

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:02.359
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty neat. And not only did he make his

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>own machine, he made a machine that can do one

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:07.199
<v Speaker 1>in five seconds. Like you said, so it took it,

0:26:07.240 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 1>took the round wire, smushed it and then coiled it

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:14.680
<v Speaker 1>in that second crimp the ends. I guess that's crazy. Yeah,

0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:16.679
<v Speaker 1>and then bam, you got a slinky. You got a

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 1>dollar in your pocket right there. This is when um,

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.520
<v Speaker 1>this is when it came in the black box and

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 1>they ditched the parchment. It was labeled Slinky Colin, the

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:30.480
<v Speaker 1>famous walking spring toy, and it was gangbusters, man, it

0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>was again. They sold a hundred million in the first

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>two years. To put that in perspective, I did find

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>out how many people there were in America in nineteen seven.

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>There was a hundred and forty four million people in

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the US and he sold a hundred million slinky. So

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>for every one point four people there was, one of

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 1>them had a slinky. So that means adults were buying

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 1>slinky sto. Yeah, you know, yeah. Uh. So in the

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties they started to do what all great inventors do.

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>They started to span the line a bit. They came

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:06.200
<v Speaker 1>up with um, courtesy of a woman named Helen Mall said,

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 1>came up with the slinky dog and the slinky train.

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 1>Um because she was a fan that they would like

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>solicit ideas, and she wrote them in and said, Hey,

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it would be pretty neat if you made

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 1>like a dog that walked but the middle of him

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:26.400
<v Speaker 1>was a slinky and like in toy story exactly, which

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 1>they got some nice kickback money on that. There was

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>also the yeah oh yes, so then they didn't steal

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>people's ideas either. No, that was waiting for that to

0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 1>read that. When I was reading this, I was all

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>nervous that and penniless or no. She actually was a

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 1>ended up creating twenty six toys and games in her career. Um,

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.959
<v Speaker 1>the slinky Dog and Slinky train were her big biggest successes.

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 1>But they basically paid her uh sixty five grand a

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>year for seventeen years on that royalty, which is a

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>ton of money. Yeah, so, um, hats off to you,

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.679
<v Speaker 1>Helen Moll said, there, did you get the idea of

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:06.160
<v Speaker 1>whether she was already a toy inventor or that this

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of gave her the boost she needed to become

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:11.159
<v Speaker 1>a toy inventor for a career. I think she was.

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.399
<v Speaker 1>I read her New York Times oh bit, and I

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>talked about some other games that she had tried to create.

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she had like burst onto the scene

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>there or anything, but um, that's a pretty comfortable living

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 1>back then. Um. So they also had this Susie the

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Slinky worm. Um, then Slinky Crazy guys. Yeah you know those,

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Remember those glasses that have like the slinkies attached to

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the big bloodshot eyeballs. Those are Slinky brand hysterical and Um.

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 1>It turns out that it wasn't just toys. The slinky

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 1>patent that Richard James originally got back in the forties

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>was also licensed out for other stuff, Like it was

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>used in Antenna's. It ended up being used on battleships

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>or other kinds of ships. Is a stabilizing thing like

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>he was originally after, Um, gutter protectors. I saw that

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:03.719
<v Speaker 1>to light fixtures, total sense. So they also made a

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>ton of cash sub licensing this whole um that, like

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the Slinky patent out for other uses besides just the

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 1>toys and the slinky hippo and all that stuff. Yeah,

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and they gave soldiers in Vietnam slinkies. UM didn't license it,

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>like just straight up gave them slinkys to use in

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the field as UH antennas. So they would throw the

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>slinky like over a tree branch and then pull it

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>down and connect it to their radio to boost their

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>antenna signal. That is pretty smart, pretty neat. You know

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>it's being used today in space. They're they're using the

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>same UM I think, the same patent originally to deploy

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>solar sales in space. Yeah, pretty cool. I wonder if

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 1>they're licensing that the actual they I mean, NASA was

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>using the slinky name all over the article I was reading.

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>And there's another one too. Um there's a paper slinky

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:58.719
<v Speaker 1>that has it's coated with a metal on one side,

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:03.440
<v Speaker 1>and so the UM when you make a go springy

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>to non springy, I think is the physics terms that

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm searching for. It creates static electricity, and it creates

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>enough that that can be captured and used to generate power. Yeah. Way,

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's people at Georgia Tech who are doing it well,

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. Um, all right, So where are we?

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>He is um sold a hundred million of these. He's

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 1>expanding the line. And right after this break, we are

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>going to talk about a very interesting turn in this story.

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Uh that has to do with well, you'll see. So

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>we're back Chuck. Slinky is doing well. It's the fifties.

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>There's a ton of just different slinky stuff, slinky eyeballs.

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's freaking out their teachers and things are going great

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>for the James is right. I think teacher's death drawers

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>are loaded with sleepy products and chattering teeth. Uh, and

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>rotten apples. I wonder where that came from. Giving the

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>teacher an apple. Yeah, I don't know, but I'll bet

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>somebody out there will let us know. Um. All right,

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 1>So it's the mid nineteen fifties. They are loaded at

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>this point, loaded making tons of money. At this point

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>they had moved to um, a wealthy suburb of Philadelphia

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>with a thirty one bedroom estate on twelve acres. Rich,

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>super rich people. Yes, good for them. They're in Bryn Marr,

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>which is like the wealthiest suburbs. I bet it still

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>is Bryn Mar. It doesn't sound like a place that's

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>going down the tubes, you know. So that Welsh brin

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>looks pretty well. V R y n m A w R.

0:31:56.440 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>It's definitely something uk. I'm gonna say Welsh. All right.

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:04.960
<v Speaker 1>So Betty Um, things were going well with the business,

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>but within the family things weren't so great because Betty

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>found out that Rick James was stepping out. He was

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>a super freak and he was fooling around on her

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit from the sounds of it, all right,

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>And she was like, okay, let's see, am I gonna

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>ditch this zero and go find a hero or what

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>am I gonna do? And she said, well, I have

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>six kids and I'm gonna stick with this dude for

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 1>the benefit of the kids. And she did. But apparently

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 1>things were never the same after that, and as a result,

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Richard James started going to church a lot more and

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 1>it really got to him. He really spoke to him

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot going to church and became something of a

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I guess I took it, although he didn't say he

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 1>became something of a born again. Yeah, that's exactly what

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>he became. Yeah. But he started out obviously as a

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>Catholic because he used to go to confession all the time,

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>which seems like, Okay, well that guy really bad about

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>things and he wanted to get stuff off of his chest.

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Not so, says Betty, his ex wife. UM. Betty said

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>that he liked the attention that he would get from

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 1>confessing in confession. Yeah, like he he was sort of

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>a hot shot, and I think he liked to just,

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>um be revered maybe I don't know, or just for

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>people listen to him or who knows. That's just a

0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>that's a weird thing. That's a weird little thing to do,

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>is go to confession to get attention. I thought it

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>was very strange. So, um, as he's going to confession,

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>as he's going to church more and more and more,

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>he's um also his family, he's even though yeah he's

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 1>still at home and he's living with his family, he's

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>becoming isolated, not just from society at large, it's becoming

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>pretty isolated from his family as well. He got the

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 1>impression that they didn't go down the church path quite

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the same degree he did, and so that was causing

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>him to feel more and more isolated, causing him to

0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:01.479
<v Speaker 1>withdraw more and more. And um, there was at some

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>point a moment where he revealed that they didn't have

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>much money anymore, not only that they were in debt

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>until like seven figure debt, about a million dollars in debt,

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>because he started funneling all their millions to um dogmatic

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:26.320
<v Speaker 1>evangelical religious groups, donating all their money. Not only donating, yeah, exactly,

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 1>he was like not paying creditors for the LLC that

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 1>owns slinky. He was diverting that revenue um from the

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>business to religious groups that he was a member of.

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>And this article said straight up like if you bought

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>a slinky before nineteen sixty, your money went exactly there.

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>So it was kind of a big deal. This is

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 1>a big revelation that was you know, started in the

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:55.440
<v Speaker 1>mid fifties and really things just got weird in the

0:34:55.520 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 1>James family from the mid fifties till nineteen sixty. Then

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:03.040
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden nineteen sixty, Richard James said, Um,

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:07.399
<v Speaker 1>have you guys ever heard of Bolivia? No, Well, it's

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>too bad, because I just bought it one way ticket

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:13.319
<v Speaker 1>there and I'm going now, don't ask me why. I'm

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>just going to join a religious group in the wilds

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 1>of Bolivia. Yeah, And I've seen it characterize as a cult. Um,

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:23.879
<v Speaker 1>that is not quite the deal. Um. They were called

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the Wye Cliffe Bible Translators and they're still around. But

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 1>it was basically their mission is to translate the Bible

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>into as many languages and getting into as many hands

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:37.439
<v Speaker 1>around the world as possible. And he felt that call

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 1>and straight up left. His family said smile you later,

0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 1>and never got back in touch with him again. That

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>was February of nineteen sixty. And I think it was

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:51.959
<v Speaker 1>Betty who called it a cult, an evangelical Christian culture. Yeah,

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 1>which you know, she was upset, you know, and she

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 1>read up about him and said, this seems really weird

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>to me. But yeah, it wasn't quite a cult. But

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I get that she was scorned. So that was February

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:07.760
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty that UM, Richard leaves for Bolivia. And before

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 1>he left, he sat Betty down and said, as you know,

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>we're a million dollars in debt. I'm leaving. UM. You

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 1>have a choice here. We can either liquidate the company

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 1>or you can take over your choice. I really don't care.

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to Bolivia and I'm probably never coming back. Yeah.

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of surprised that she got that opportunity

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:33.359
<v Speaker 1>to decide at least what to do with her future. Yeah, Like,

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I was glad to know that it was within her power, right. I.

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>It took me a couple of times of reading this

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>before I finally called onto that. At first I thought

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>he just laughed and she slid into that position. But yeah,

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 1>he gave her the choice, like, you can liquid eight

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you're raising six kids. You'll probably make some money off

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 1>of it after the creditors are paid off. So do

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 1>you want to do that? She said, you know what, No,

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try taking over the company. I'm going all

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 1>in on Linky. So she took over this company, Chuck,

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>that was in really dire straits. Yeah. I don't think

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 1>we even mentioned that Slinkys had started to wane in popularity,

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:11.200
<v Speaker 1>so not only were they in debt, but towards the

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:13.800
<v Speaker 1>end of the nineteen fifties, everyone had like the slinky

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>craze its sort of passed. Yeah, so we said that

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>it sold a hundred million units in its first two years.

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>Since nineteen forty seven, they've sold three million total, so

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a full one third of all the slinky sold were

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>sold in the first two years. So yeah, it's star

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 1>crested and then started to fall. And so this lady

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>took over a company that was saddled with debt. Uh,

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>it's star product was not so much of a star

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 1>any longer. And um, she had six kids. She had

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 1>six kids, and she decided, rather than the liquid at

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the company to say, no, I'm gonna see what I

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>can do with this. I'm gonna try to bring it back.

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>And she did. Yeah. I mean, reading this, she's truly

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:56.840
<v Speaker 1>one of like the great women in American history. I

0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 1>think she's she's definitely the hero of this story too,

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 1>and revered by toy enthusiasts. But I don't think a

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 1>lot of people even know her name. You know, it's

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Betty James. So her first plan was, I have all

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 1>these creditors at least let me try and get this

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.520
<v Speaker 1>deferred for now, and was somehow able to talk him

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 1>into deferring some of these payments, thank god. And Um.

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Then in nineteen sixty two, she hired three dudes from Columbia,

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:30.880
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina. UM Johnny McCullough and Homer Fesperman wrote the

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:34.839
<v Speaker 1>music and Charles Weagley wrote the lyrics to what would

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>later become the longest running Dare I say most successful

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>commercial jingle of all time? Yes, I would say it's

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 1>possibly the most well known at least. So let's um,

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.280
<v Speaker 1>let's play a little bit of that right now, everyone's

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 1>heard it, and here it is walks to say with

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:02.439
<v Speaker 1>advocate and makes the happiest that's been down to dawn,

0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 1>that's gone to get over time. So I mean that

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 1>surely sounds familiar. Apparently there was a survey that was

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 1>conducted that found that eighty nine point eight percent of

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Americans either know what a slinky is or are familiar

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 1>with that jingle. So that's definitely it's got to be

0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>the most successful jingle of all time. Like, what else

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>is there? I can't think of anything else to put

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>up against it? Have a cocamout smile whatever. I don't

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.279
<v Speaker 1>even know how that goes. No, I think that was

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>just a slogan that wasn't a song. Oh yeah, no,

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you're totally right, um, And you and I of course

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 1>all day have been singing it's log it's And I

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:47.839
<v Speaker 1>was like, that was obviously based on the slinky jingle.

0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:49.440
<v Speaker 1>And I went back and listen to it, was like, no,

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:53.320
<v Speaker 1>it is the slinky jingle. They just replaced the lyrics.

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Well I didn't get the joke. Well rend and stimpy

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>fans obviously, UH know what I just did. But if

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you were like, I don't get it, what is log

0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>have to do anything? Just look up log I guess

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>log jingle maybe. So, Um, this was a huge hit

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:08.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's funny. I was looking on um the internet

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:11.320
<v Speaker 1>to see if I could find anything on these guys

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 1>that wrote this thing, and um, Homer Fesperman has a

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Facebook page. It's got to be him. Wow. Yeah, I

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 1>just clicked on it and the first thing I saw

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>was South Carolina Game Cox and I was like, well Columbia,

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>South Carolina, and it looks like he's making um, like

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a video scrapbooks for people. Well that's the Facebook page

0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 1>was wide opened, and I wanted to get in touch

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and say are you Are you the Homer? Maybe we

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:41.479
<v Speaker 1>could just get a like a little quick interview or something,

0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't know. So look him up. Homer Fesperman,

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:47.880
<v Speaker 1>he's on that, He's on the internet. Yeah, everybody friend him.

0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>He'll be like, what is going on. I've been stamped

0:40:52.320 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>by the friendliest people on Facebook who are fans. Most

0:40:56.640 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 1>of them. So Betty's got this jingle out there. This

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 1>was a master stroke. She also, um did some advertising.

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:10.279
<v Speaker 1>She really put a lot of money into advertising. But

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 1>apparently I get the impression that she had like some

0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>she cut some good deals. It wasn't she she went

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 1>hemorrhaging money on advertising. It was all very smart UM

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and Slinky's stars started to rise once again. Well, she

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>moved the facility closer to Philadelphia to UM. I think

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:29.799
<v Speaker 1>it saved some money and allowed her to be with

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.759
<v Speaker 1>her kids more. UM. Although she did, you know, she

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.359
<v Speaker 1>had a caretaker. So the kids, I think they said,

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>like Sunday through Thursday, they had a lot of like

0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 1>attention from nanny's and things. But I get the idea

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 1>she was a good mom. She was trying to do

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:45.280
<v Speaker 1>right by her family, you know right, and not only

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:48.839
<v Speaker 1>her family this uh. This article on Priceonomics points out

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>that she was also helping out the families of I

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 1>think the hundred and twenty person team that she put together,

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 1>and it says they were a close knit UM, which

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 1>definitely kind of jibes with the impression that I've gotten

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 1>of her. UM. So she's she's got this jingle down

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Slinky starting to come back a little bit. And also

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I think the tech that she's taking is it's a

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 1>it's an inexpensive toy that everybody can enjoy. Um, but

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 1>it's still I mean this, I don't know if all

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>of it would have been quite so possible had a

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 1>bit of serendipity not happened in the mid nineteen seventies.

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Plastic plastic is that the thing. Yeah, there was a

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:31.320
<v Speaker 1>dude in Minnesota who was a plastic worker who figured

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 1>out basically a way to make a plastic slinky and

0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:39.760
<v Speaker 1>went directly to Betty James and the um her company

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 1>and said, what do you think about this? She said,

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I don't steal ideas. I paid for

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 1>him him. How much do you want me to make

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.839
<v Speaker 1>the checkout for? Yeah, his name was Donald James Room,

0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 1>and he was um of master Mark Plastics, and he

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 1>was trying to make a garden hose that coiled like

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:59.720
<v Speaker 1>they have now, like a plastic garden hose self coiled,

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and um he failed. And his kids apparently were like,

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:05.919
<v Speaker 1>that looks like a slinky and he was like, oh well,

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>let me kids, I'm trying to concentrate trying to make

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>a garden hose. So um, like you said, they they

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:17.360
<v Speaker 1>made a great deal and uh he he ended up

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:20.120
<v Speaker 1>with tons of money too, and it made slinky super

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>popular again and it became the Slinky Rainbow, the Rainbow Slinky,

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:27.400
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, all of a sudden, not just original slinky.

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:29.839
<v Speaker 1>Now you had this what they call the a less

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:33.439
<v Speaker 1>tangle prone alternative to slinky, which is pretty bold because

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:37.280
<v Speaker 1>you're saying your original product is tangle prone. Still worked.

0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe they just knew that everybody knew that

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 1>the slinky is tangle prone. And um, now they had

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:46.839
<v Speaker 1>a couple of products again that were really salable, and

0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 1>the the slinky star rose once more. Yeah, and like

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I said, the Toy Story, they did make a great

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 1>deal with Um, I guess it was Pixar. Yeah, and

0:43:56.280 --> 0:44:00.120
<v Speaker 1>sold a ton more Slinkies when Toy Story came out

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:03.280
<v Speaker 1>because of the dog right exactly. Uh. In in nineteen

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 1>seventy four, Betty heard received news that her husband Rick

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 1>James had passed away. Who she hadn't he lived within

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a few months of going to Bolivia, Like she hadn't

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:17.600
<v Speaker 1>heard anything from him. That's just unbelievable. Um. But she

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 1>was doing fine and so she was probably like, thanks

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 1>for letting me know who cares who. It might have

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 1>been a little sad, I'm not gonna say that, but um.

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 1>She then sold to poof Products in for what she

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:38.319
<v Speaker 1>called a quote boatload of money and good for her. Yeah,

0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 1>and she lived on for another ten years, to the

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 1>right old age of ninety and I think before then

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>she was recognized by the Toy Industry Association's Hall of Fame.

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:49.800
<v Speaker 1>I think Slinky was inducted in two thousand, so she

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>would have been alive for that. Pretty neat. Yeah, so

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 1>that's slinky. Yeah, you know what. The only other thing

0:44:57.280 --> 0:45:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I had was you can make the Star Wars blaster

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:04.640
<v Speaker 1>sound with a slinky? Yeah you Um, well you can

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:06.760
<v Speaker 1>do with the microphone, or you can you put a cup,

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>a paper cup and the end of the slinky and

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:12.359
<v Speaker 1>you hold that in the air just like the height

0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 1>of your head, and the rest of the slinky falls

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:19.360
<v Speaker 1>to the ground and um then you just start. Uh. Basically,

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 1>they're all kinds of noises you can make. But if

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you want to make that sound, you can pick up

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the bottom off the floor and then just let it

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:27.440
<v Speaker 1>drop on the floor and catch it real quick, and

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 1>it does that nice makes a neat sound. That's a

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:33.080
<v Speaker 1>chuck tip right there. Yeah, you go to YouTube and

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:36.320
<v Speaker 1>look up Star Wars slinky sound and there's a couple

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>of dudes. Of course it'll show you just how to

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 1>do it. Well, that's one of the reasons too, why

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Betty James chose the word slinky. It's not only because

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 1>it was sleek and attractive, but also she thinks she

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:50.120
<v Speaker 1>thought that that was a good description of what the

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 1>sound it made as it went downstairs. She would have

0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:57.799
<v Speaker 1>called it the blaster um. And there's one last thing

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 1>about slinky physics that are pretty amy easing. Let's hear it.

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:04.480
<v Speaker 1>So if you if you dangle a slinky out to

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>where it's um completely stretched out as much as it's

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 1>going to without putting any pressure on, just letting the

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:11.440
<v Speaker 1>force of gravity stretch out the slinky until it reaches

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:15.840
<v Speaker 1>equally okay, um, but without this bottom touching the ground

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>out a fourth story window. Awesome. And you actually, if

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.320
<v Speaker 1>it's like eighty something feeding and have to be higher

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:24.000
<v Speaker 1>than that because it's slinky, would go right down to

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:26.399
<v Speaker 1>the ground. Man, Well, I mean you have to wait

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:29.240
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of it. Okay, So let's say four stories

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:32.879
<v Speaker 1>you're right then, um, and if you have it, you're

0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 1>holding it's steady, it's not moving. And then you release

0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:38.359
<v Speaker 1>the top, the top will start to fall, but if

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 1>you pay close attention, the bottom stays where it is.

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Slinky's actually have this amazing property of managing to levitate

0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>momentarily when the top is released, and some very smart

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:56.320
<v Speaker 1>scientists studied this and they measured it and they found yes, indeed,

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the top is moving and the bottom is remaining. It's

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:02.279
<v Speaker 1>floating in air. And they figured out that the reason

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 1>why is because the tension is still acting against the

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:09.440
<v Speaker 1>force of gravity, which has reached the equilibrium on the

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>lower part of the coil. And basically, the information that

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:15.320
<v Speaker 1>gravity is, that tension is released in gravity is about

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.560
<v Speaker 1>to win hasn't reached that bottom part yet. Each coil

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 1>stacks upon the next one, and the next one and

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:24.120
<v Speaker 1>the next one. So as that's happening up top down below,

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:27.760
<v Speaker 1>it's all hunky dory. Still it's like you're still holding

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:33.440
<v Speaker 1>onto me. It's literally floating in mid air. Wow. This

0:47:33.640 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 1>it's it's ceaselessly amazing. Basically, the slinky well, those are

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 1>two pretty boss slinky tricks, and what a great way

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to finish, I think. So if you want to know

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:47.440
<v Speaker 1>more about slink Eyes, you can go to the podcast

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 1>page on how Stuff you Should Know dot com and

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>check out our slinky episode and there should be links

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 1>to this Prisonomics article and the YouTube Slinky Master all

0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 1>that jam. Just go check that out. And I didn't

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 1>say search bar, but you can imagine that I would

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 1>have under normal circumstances, which means it's time for a

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 1>listener mail. I'm gonna call this uh sage from Portland's

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Remember Sage. Yeah, we do a little Q and A

0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:16.320
<v Speaker 1>at the end of these live shows and where people

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:19.360
<v Speaker 1>can get up and ask us questions and sages was great,

0:48:19.600 --> 0:48:22.320
<v Speaker 1>so I told her to send it in. Um hey, guys,

0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 1>just got back from your live show in Portland, and

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Chuck said to ride in to my amazing fact. I

0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:30.719
<v Speaker 1>was super nervous to go up there. We'll save you

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.400
<v Speaker 1>did great. By the way, um my fact is that

0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>you can actually tell how old a humpback whale is

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:38.760
<v Speaker 1>by looking at their ear wax because it forms rings

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.920
<v Speaker 1>like a tree. Oh yeah, I remember that humpback whales

0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:44.880
<v Speaker 1>migrate from Alaska to Yi each year for mating. The

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:48.240
<v Speaker 1>temperature shift of the ocean water causes the rings to form.

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Researchers will examine the ear wax of deceased whales there

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 1>were beach to find out their age and a lot

0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 1>of other facts about them. Gross and fascinating, just like

0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the actual ear wax podcast. Guys, I found doubt this

0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 1>while uh snorkeling on a cruise in Hawaii last week

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 1>for spring break. Thanks for everything, and thanks for the

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<v Speaker 1>live show especially, it was totally awesome. With four exclamation

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<v Speaker 1>points four that's pretty good rating, man alive. I had

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun, and I think I got my mom

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<v Speaker 1>hooked on your show too, So thanks to Sage and

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<v Speaker 1>meet you. You did a great job. You didn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>do audience QA stuff every night. That's right. Thanks to everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>importantly you guys. I think Chuck. Every single person um

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