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Speaker 2: So let's talk about nine to eleven. In fact, someone
Speaker 2: on the during open lines last night on Coast brought
Speaker 2: up Building seven and that kind of led to a
Speaker 2: bit of a discussion on nine to eleven. And I'm
Speaker 2: glad we're having an opportunity to discuss it.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about some of the I call them the
Speaker 2: loose threads. In fact, I said, there are so many
Speaker 2: loose threads. You just keep pulling and pulling and pulling
Speaker 2: on these loose threads. There's no more sweater. It's just
Speaker 2: a bunch of loose threads. Let's talk about some of
Speaker 2: them that you find most I don't know, unsettling. Like,
Speaker 2: let's start maybe with evidence that hints that the US
Speaker 2: intelligence agencies might have been aware of the nine to
Speaker 2: eleven attacks before they unfolded.
Speaker 3: Well, I think, you know, I think most of us
Speaker 3: believe that. I mean, I guess the most innocuous explanation
Speaker 3: would be that as we stood down that day, But
Speaker 3: I personally, I don't believe. I think, like Alex Jones popularized,
Speaker 3: I think it was an inside job. I think our
Speaker 3: government orchestrated this carver. They did it, and I think
Speaker 3: that the record shows that in American memory hole, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, I talked about the basics and hidden history,
Speaker 3: but American amory all we dive deeper into all these subjects,
Speaker 3: and you know, we talked about we quote extensively from
Speaker 3: the testimony is you know, like the nine to eleven Commission,
Speaker 3: much like the Warrant Commission just told lie after a lie.
Speaker 3: Like there there they addressed these the rumors of that
Speaker 3: explosions in the report by saying there were no there
Speaker 3: was no credible evidence of explosions. There were over one
Speaker 3: hundred and I think Richard Gage Madam I showed yesterday.
Speaker 3: I think it's up to I don't know, one hundred
Speaker 3: and eighty something or whatever. It's over one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty firefighters alone testified very explicitly about hearing explosions. There's
Speaker 3: no question about it. And there's there's video testimony from
Speaker 3: people saying there were explosions. And in the book we
Speaker 3: talked about how the early stream reports and there were
Speaker 3: several of them, about a truck or some kind of
Speaker 3: vehicle parked at the base of the World Trade Center
Speaker 3: that authorities were telling these reporters was packed with explosives.
Speaker 3: I mean, these are the things that gets shoved down
Speaker 3: the memory hold. You know, that's the title for the book.
Speaker 3: And there's no question that they were explosion. And if
Speaker 3: you look at Richard Gages, for instance, his PowerPoint presentation
Speaker 3: that he does, I mean, it's it's very impressive, and
Speaker 3: he analyzes the free the free falling, the way the
Speaker 3: buildings sell into their own pancake. It's just it doesn't
Speaker 3: happen like that. That's just impossible to happen the way
Speaker 3: they claim it. Did you know that we have we're
Speaker 3: expected to believe that these planes hit, you know, seventy
Speaker 3: eighty floors above the lobby. And yet then at Brothers
Speaker 3: and other people claim that there were people on fire
Speaker 3: in the lobby, you know, people like Willie Rodriguez that
Speaker 3: was in the sub basement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, former janitor at the North Tower.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I interviewed William. I think I think he's passed away.
Speaker 2: But I interviewed William Rodriguez many men years ago.
Speaker 3: Uh, I only hadn't passed away now because I tried
Speaker 3: to contact him a year or two ago and he
Speaker 3: said he wasn't doing interviews anymore, but maybe he did,
Speaker 3: I don't know. But he was treated pretty sick, you know, again,
Speaker 3: much like some of the people are treating the JFK community.
Speaker 3: The nine to eleven community treated him pretty badly. But
Speaker 3: again that's because this is the part of Richard of
Speaker 3: our conspiracy world, is that a lot of the people
Speaker 3: there are some crazy people out there, and they they
Speaker 3: tend to, you know, turn on each other and claim
Speaker 3: everybody he's a disinto agent. But in my mind, he
Speaker 3: looked like a hero and he was. He was reporting
Speaker 3: things that obviously completely demolished the official story. He had,
Speaker 3: you know, explosions to the sub base and what is that?
Speaker 3: How does that possibly equate with damage done from an
Speaker 3: airplane eighty stories above it? But yeah, we had we
Speaker 3: have lots of information in there. There's you mentioned building seven.
Speaker 3: We talked about building six in the book. I mean
Speaker 3: pretty much everybody has heard of Building seven. Building six
Speaker 3: is very interesting because's where that's where panaway they kept
Speaker 3: a lot of gold. And there was a guy in
Speaker 3: son Enfeld who was a I believe he was I
Speaker 3: think it was a FEMA employee, and he blew the
Speaker 3: whistle on what was going on with the gold there
Speaker 3: and how it was all missing, and his wife was
Speaker 3: murdered not long after that, and he was framed for
Speaker 3: her murder. They tried to blame him for somehow he
Speaker 3: fled and he I think he's still in exile in Argentina.
Speaker 3: But those kind of stories that people don't know, kind
Speaker 3: of the collateral damage that I mean, people you know,
Speaker 3: kind of know the basic story. And on nine ele
Speaker 3: but before nine to eleven, there had never been a
Speaker 3: case of a single high rise steel framed building collapsing
Speaker 3: for fire. On nine to eleven, three did, including Building seven,
Speaker 3: which wasn't struck by any airplane or any magical jet
Speaker 3: fuel cocktail. Since nine eleven, none have. And we go
Speaker 3: into a bit in the book about how there have
Speaker 3: been fires, very similar fires in other parts of the
Speaker 3: world in similar buildings and no one for a second
Speaker 3: thought they were going to collapse, and of course they
Speaker 3: didn't collapse. So what was magical about that day? So
Speaker 3: there's and in this book we also talked a lot
Speaker 3: about Play ninety three, you know, the Let's Roll flight
Speaker 3: in Shanksville. Yeah, many that hasn't been looked at that
Speaker 3: closely and people would be just amazed at what you know,
Speaker 3: what I mean, every witness had had arrived on the scene.
Speaker 3: We're talking about the corner, you're talking about the mayor
Speaker 3: and your high profile reporters, fire chiefs, police chiefs. They
Speaker 3: all said the same thing. It didn't look like a
Speaker 3: plane had been there. There was virtually nothing, and I
Speaker 3: you know, I don't I don't know how that happens.
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but well, this is United Airlines. Flight
Speaker 2: ninety three was supposedly what headed for the for Washington
Speaker 2: d c uh and we're told that some brave passengers
Speaker 2: you know, said you know, let's roll, and they tried
Speaker 2: to overcome the hijackers to regain control and then fortunately,
Speaker 2: you know, it flew into the ground. And then there
Speaker 2: is the reports, you know, in the bunker at the
Speaker 2: in Washington where someone I think it's it was a
Speaker 2: minute the secretary, the assistant Secretary of Transportation overheard a
Speaker 2: conversation about flight ninety three and does the order still
Speaker 2: stand and they were keeping track of this flight coming
Speaker 2: into Washington and whether the order was given to shoot
Speaker 2: it down.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, there was an exchange with Dick Cheney there Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's there's all kinds of things like that we go into,
Speaker 3: like the just the curiosity of Todd Beamer, you know,
Speaker 3: one of the heroic passengers of his last call, where
Speaker 3: you know he and again this is kind of like
Speaker 3: analyzing the parents in some shootings. Okay, everybody actually this,
Speaker 3: but this guy, you know, he knew he was going
Speaker 3: to crash, supposedly, and he's talking to an operator and
Speaker 3: the operator says, you want me to put you through
Speaker 3: to your wife? And he goes, now, that's fine, I'll
Speaker 3: talk you. I mean, I just again that decision ring true.
Speaker 3: If you had a chance, would you want to talk
Speaker 3: to some strange operator if you knew you were going
Speaker 3: to die? Or would you want to think about your wife?
Speaker 3: So that's the kind of things you know that so
Speaker 3: much about the nine to eleven story some fairytale aspects
Speaker 3: to it, from the let's roll thing to you know,
Speaker 3: the back cave in Afghanistan wherever the tallest Arab in
Speaker 3: the world Asmond and Laden was orchestrating this all from,
Speaker 3: and the fact that they used plastic knives and box cutters,
Speaker 3: and in this case, you know, again I talked to
Speaker 3: people that people had not talked. We tracked down the
Speaker 3: woman that worked at I'm sorry I forgotten their name.
Speaker 3: There's so many names involved, but she worked at Logan
Speaker 3: Airport in Boston, and there had been rumors for a
Speaker 3: long time that I think this woman or somebody else
Speaker 3: talked on Oprah about it, that there was that one
Speaker 3: of the people to check the hijackers in that day
Speaker 3: at the airport went on to commit suicide later. So
Speaker 3: I got a hold of her and she was very
Speaker 3: friendly in telling and she said, yeah, but she couldn't
Speaker 3: remember the girl's name, but she said, oh yeah, yeah
Speaker 3: she did, and she accepted the official story. She had
Speaker 3: no problems with it all. I said, okay, well, I'm
Speaker 3: not going to get anywhere review. But that's you know,
Speaker 3: that's the kind of stuff that you know, people wonder about.
Speaker 3: You know, the guy signs talks about the Golden Building six,
Speaker 3: his wife gets murdered, They try to frame him for
Speaker 3: his Murder's whoever one of the girls that checks in
Speaker 3: the hijackers at Logan Airport goes on to kill herself?
Speaker 2: What about the passport? And I'm I don't know if
Speaker 2: this has been proven to be apocryphal or whether it's true.
Speaker 2: I remember reading very early on about authorities finding a
Speaker 2: passport belonging to one of the hijackers that was in
Speaker 2: one of the planes that flew into the twin towers
Speaker 2: and it was found down your ground zero in Chris
Speaker 2: Stine condition, is that a true story or is that apocryphal?
Speaker 3: Oh? No, that's that's that's what we're told that we're
Speaker 3: supposed to believe that. And again I think there was
Speaker 3: also a wedding ring that was so I talked about
Speaker 3: that in history, there was a wedding ring of a
Speaker 3: cup well that was married in the Vatican. Again, you
Speaker 3: figure that out how many how many couples are married
Speaker 3: in the backing. But yeah, the that's we're supposed to
Speaker 3: believe that a passport, paper passport was was found when
Speaker 3: you know, all the steel and concrete was obliterated in
Speaker 3: define dust. But those are the you know, those are
Speaker 3: the things you're you're supposed to believe in the in
Speaker 3: these tales. And that's that's why again, so many of
Speaker 3: us have h have trouble, and we get to the
Speaker 3: point where we don't believe anything anymore. So whatever events
Speaker 3: it happens, it becomes Trump's fake news. You know, he
Speaker 3: popularized that term and now everybody says it because we've
Speaker 3: been alive to about everything. And when you you tell
Speaker 3: stories like that, you know. And in this book I
Speaker 3: also talk about something I didn't know that Muhammadada, you know,
Speaker 3: is probably the most well known of the alleged hijackers.
Speaker 3: That his father had claimed to have talked to Muhammad
Speaker 3: Amada the day after nine to eleven that was obviously
Speaker 3: supposedly killed right during it. And we're son was all
Speaker 3: upset and claiming he had been framed by the Massad,
Speaker 3: And of course he had to go to Germany to
Speaker 3: tell the story. He couldn't get any media interests in
Speaker 3: the United States. So German. I got the quotes from
Speaker 3: I think a German magazine, a German television station. But
Speaker 3: what does that mean. I don't know what that means, Richard,
Speaker 3: But it means something. If you're saying that this is
Speaker 3: maybe the most famous hijacker and his father saying he
Speaker 3: talked to him, wouldn't you think that, I don't know,
Speaker 3: FDI or in a poll with somebody to try to
Speaker 3: track this guy down.
Speaker 2: Well, a number of them, the hijackers that were identified
Speaker 2: very quickly as being responsible. I think a number of them.
Speaker 2: Later it turned out were supposedly alive in places like
Speaker 2: Pakistan or somewhere in the Middle East, and then we
Speaker 2: never heard about it ever.
Speaker 3: Again, no we don't. I can't bring it up the
Speaker 3: memory hole. But that's the perfect way to describe that,
Speaker 3: all these things get shoved down the memory hole. And
Speaker 3: that's why in Orwall's description was perfect, because it's just,
Speaker 3: you know, Winston Smith's job in the Ministry's truth was
Speaker 3: to take these things. So if he if he was
Speaker 3: looking at, say, you know, somebody like my book or something,
Speaker 3: you know, he would have he would have a pretty
Speaker 3: hard job. But that's what he'd be doing. He'd be
Speaker 3: taking all these things and throwing them down the memory
Speaker 3: hole and creating one persons. So people like Asan and
Speaker 3: Sol and people like Whistled, various whistleblowers, they just wouldn't
Speaker 3: exist anymore. And that's that's kind of what the media
Speaker 3: does today, and they don't do it, you know, literally
Speaker 3: to that extent. But that's and you know, that's why
Speaker 3: I said before, you know, this is my tenth book,
Speaker 3: and the only reason I'm able to write these books,
Speaker 3: the only reason I have anything to write about is
Speaker 3: because we don't have a free press and we don't
Speaker 3: have real historians. Because if we did, this stuff would
Speaker 3: be already known to people that were interested in and
Speaker 3: I'd have no new information. They would have already analyzed
Speaker 3: this and been all over it and probably have a
Speaker 3: lot more resources than I have to try to resolve it.
Speaker 3: But if you just look at these things, it's it's
Speaker 3: it's no wonder that people think that everything that happens
Speaker 3: is fake or they question it because we've been lied
Speaker 3: to about everything and there, I mean, there's literally nothing
Speaker 3: when you look at these things and you go back
Speaker 3: all the way to you know, I go back to
Speaker 3: the beginning of the Republic, and there's just so many
Speaker 3: things that we have been lied to that people have,
Speaker 3: you know, misimpressions of They just don't know anything about it.
Speaker 3: And so, you know, that's the hardest part I guess
Speaker 3: about trying to write history is that most Americans are
Speaker 3: historically illiterate, So a lot of them don't even know
Speaker 3: the conventional explanations. So it's kind of hard to show
Speaker 3: them what told if they don't even know the lies.
Speaker 2: Right you You cited a study in the I think
Speaker 2: it's an introduction to the book American Memory. Holenumber of
Speaker 2: respondents these were young people. We don't want to pick
Speaker 2: on young people, but the number of respondents who actually
Speaker 2: believed that Judge Judy was on the Supreme Court.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, and there's there's there's
Speaker 3: so many things like that. It's just and again it's
Speaker 3: I like you, I don't blame I mean, I think
Speaker 3: we've we've left a very sorry world for our children.
Speaker 3: So I feel bad for young people today. We've we
Speaker 3: haven't we haven't left them a better world, which I
Speaker 3: think is our obligation to try to leave our children
Speaker 3: a better world. But a lot of the older people
Speaker 3: aren't any better in terms of that. You can go
Speaker 3: back many years Steve Allen's Man on the Street. You
Speaker 3: know that he meted that kind of thing where he
Speaker 3: would go ask questions and basically show how uninformed everybody was,
Speaker 3: and people people like Mark Diser are still doing it.
Speaker 3: And uh, it's it makes your eyes well, this is
Speaker 3: it's it's hard to get through to people. But thank goodness,
Speaker 3: there are a lot of people out there. Is my
Speaker 3: history books so much better than my other books, And uh,
Speaker 3: it's it's it's it's really great when I hear from
Speaker 3: young people because I think they understand, you know, they
Speaker 3: understand what they've been sold. And in the age of
Speaker 3: the Internet, when you can look, when you can look
Speaker 3: at what's going on now and you look at the
Speaker 3: shenanig ends of the politics that's happening right now, people
Speaker 3: are aware in real time of how they're being lied to,
Speaker 3: and so they it's not it's not it's hard to
Speaker 3: sell them on the lies of the past now because
Speaker 3: they realize, well, okay, that makes sense. We're being lied
Speaker 3: to constantly, and that's that's what you see if you
Speaker 3: go back there, these are it's just one lie after
Speaker 3: another from you know, from the World Wars to to
Speaker 3: what we see today on the verge of World War III.
Speaker 2: A memory American memory hole. I think you you sort
Speaker 2: of leave off with nine to eleven, is you're going
Speaker 2: to be an American memory hole too.
Speaker 3: I think there will be there'll be another book. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm working kind of on it now, but it's it's
Speaker 3: going to be addressing Trump. But you know, there's so
Speaker 3: many things involved with Trump that it's probably going to
Speaker 3: turn into a book about Trump. Biden. I don't see
Speaker 3: any other way around it, because, of course that story
Speaker 3: is still writing itself because we don't know if there's
Speaker 3: going to be a second Trump presidency. So I think
Speaker 3: that's going to be the next history book with the
Speaker 3: Trump Biden stuff and the things that have been happening
Speaker 3: the last few years.
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