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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about nine to eleven. In fact, someone

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Speaker 2: on the during open lines last night on Coast brought

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Speaker 2: up Building seven and that kind of led to a

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Speaker 2: bit of a discussion on nine to eleven. And I'm

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Speaker 2: glad we're having an opportunity to discuss it.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about some of the I call them the

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Speaker 2: loose threads. In fact, I said, there are so many

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Speaker 2: loose threads. You just keep pulling and pulling and pulling

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Speaker 2: on these loose threads. There's no more sweater. It's just

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Speaker 2: a bunch of loose threads. Let's talk about some of

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Speaker 2: them that you find most I don't know, unsettling. Like,

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Speaker 2: let's start maybe with evidence that hints that the US

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Speaker 2: intelligence agencies might have been aware of the nine to

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Speaker 2: eleven attacks before they unfolded.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think, you know, I think most of us

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Speaker 3: believe that. I mean, I guess the most innocuous explanation

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Speaker 3: would be that as we stood down that day, But

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Speaker 3: I personally, I don't believe. I think, like Alex Jones popularized,

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Speaker 3: I think it was an inside job. I think our

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Speaker 3: government orchestrated this carver. They did it, and I think

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Speaker 3: that the record shows that in American memory hole, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I talked about the basics and hidden history,

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Speaker 3: but American amory all we dive deeper into all these subjects,

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Speaker 3: and you know, we talked about we quote extensively from

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Speaker 3: the testimony is you know, like the nine to eleven Commission,

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Speaker 3: much like the Warrant Commission just told lie after a lie.

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Speaker 3: Like there there they addressed these the rumors of that

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Speaker 3: explosions in the report by saying there were no there

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Speaker 3: was no credible evidence of explosions. There were over one

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Speaker 3: hundred and I think Richard Gage Madam I showed yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I think it's up to I don't know, one hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty something or whatever. It's over one hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty firefighters alone testified very explicitly about hearing explosions. There's

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Speaker 3: no question about it. And there's there's video testimony from

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Speaker 3: people saying there were explosions. And in the book we

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Speaker 3: talked about how the early stream reports and there were

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Speaker 3: several of them, about a truck or some kind of

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Speaker 3: vehicle parked at the base of the World Trade Center

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Speaker 3: that authorities were telling these reporters was packed with explosives.

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Speaker 3: I mean, these are the things that gets shoved down

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Speaker 3: the memory hold. You know, that's the title for the book.

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Speaker 3: And there's no question that they were explosion. And if

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Speaker 3: you look at Richard Gages, for instance, his PowerPoint presentation

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Speaker 3: that he does, I mean, it's it's very impressive, and

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Speaker 3: he analyzes the free the free falling, the way the

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Speaker 3: buildings sell into their own pancake. It's just it doesn't

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Speaker 3: happen like that. That's just impossible to happen the way

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Speaker 3: they claim it. Did you know that we have we're

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Speaker 3: expected to believe that these planes hit, you know, seventy

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Speaker 3: eighty floors above the lobby. And yet then at Brothers

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Speaker 3: and other people claim that there were people on fire

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Speaker 3: in the lobby, you know, people like Willie Rodriguez that

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Speaker 3: was in the sub basement.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, former janitor at the North Tower.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I interviewed William. I think I think he's passed away.

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Speaker 2: But I interviewed William Rodriguez many men years ago.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I only hadn't passed away now because I tried

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Speaker 3: to contact him a year or two ago and he

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Speaker 3: I don't know. But he was treated pretty sick, you know, again,

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Speaker 3: much like some of the people are treating the JFK community.

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Speaker 3: The nine to eleven community treated him pretty badly. But

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Speaker 3: again that's because this is the part of Richard of

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Speaker 3: our conspiracy world, is that a lot of the people

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Speaker 3: there are some crazy people out there, and they they

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Speaker 3: tend to, you know, turn on each other and claim

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Speaker 3: everybody he's a disinto agent. But in my mind, he

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Speaker 3: you know, explosions to the sub base and what is that?

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Speaker 3: How does that possibly equate with damage done from an

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Speaker 3: have lots of information in there. There's you mentioned building seven.

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Speaker 3: We talked about building six in the book. I mean

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Speaker 3: is very interesting because's where that's where panaway they kept

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Speaker 3: But those kind of stories that people don't know, kind

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Speaker 3: of the collateral damage that I mean, people you know,

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Speaker 3: kind of know the basic story. And on nine ele

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Speaker 3: but before nine to eleven, there had never been a

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Speaker 3: for fire. On nine to eleven, three did, including Building seven,

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Speaker 3: which wasn't struck by any airplane or any magical jet

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Speaker 3: fuel cocktail. Since nine eleven, none have. And we go

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Speaker 3: into a bit in the book about how there have

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Speaker 3: been fires, very similar fires in other parts of the

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Speaker 3: didn't collapse. So what was magical about that day? So

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Speaker 3: there's and in this book we also talked a lot

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Speaker 3: about Play ninety three, you know, the Let's Roll flight

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Speaker 3: in Shanksville. Yeah, many that hasn't been looked at that

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Speaker 3: what I mean, every witness had had arrived on the scene.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the corner, you're talking about the mayor

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Speaker 3: and your high profile reporters, fire chiefs, police chiefs. They

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Speaker 3: plane had been there. There was virtually nothing, and I

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't I don't know how that happens.

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Speaker 3: What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but well, this is United Airlines. Flight

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Speaker 2: ninety three was supposedly what headed for the for Washington

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Speaker 2: you know, said you know, let's roll, and they tried

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Speaker 2: to overcome the hijackers to regain control and then fortunately,

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Speaker 2: you know, it flew into the ground. And then there

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Speaker 2: is the reports, you know, in the bunker at the

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Speaker 2: minute the secretary, the assistant Secretary of Transportation overheard a

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Speaker 2: conversation about flight ninety three and does the order still

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Speaker 2: stand and they were keeping track of this flight coming

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Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, there was an exchange with Dick Cheney there Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's there's all kinds of things like that we go into,

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Speaker 3: like the just the curiosity of Todd Beamer, you know,

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Speaker 3: analyzing the parents in some shootings. Okay, everybody actually this,

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Speaker 3: but this guy, you know, he knew he was going

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Speaker 3: talk you. I mean, I just again that decision ring true.

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Speaker 3: If you had a chance, would you want to talk

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Speaker 3: So that's the kind of things you know that so

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Speaker 3: much about the nine to eleven story some fairytale aspects

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Speaker 3: the world Asmond and Laden was orchestrating this all from,

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Speaker 3: and in this case, you know, again I talked to

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Speaker 3: You know, the guy signs talks about the Golden Building six,

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Speaker 2: What about the passport? And I'm I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I remember reading very early on about authorities finding a

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Speaker 2: and it was found down your ground zero in Chris

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Speaker 3: is probably the most well known of the alleged hijackers.

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Speaker 3: That his father had claimed to have talked to Muhammad

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Speaker 3: But it means something. If you're saying that this is

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Speaker 2: Well, a number of them, the hijackers that were identified

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Speaker 2: never heard about it ever.

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Speaker 3: Again, no we don't. I can't bring it up the

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Speaker 3: memory hole. But that's the perfect way to describe that,

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Speaker 3: all these things get shoved down the memory hole. And

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Speaker 2: Right you You cited a study in the I think

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Speaker 2: A memory American memory hole. I think you you sort

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Speaker 3: I think there will be there'll be another book. I mean,

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Speaker 3: many things involved with Trump that it's probably going to

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