1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to a Numbers game with Ryan Grodwski. Thank 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: you guys for being here. It was a wild day 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: the recording of this podcast. In the middle of it, 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: I lost power and had to change locations. So those 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: who are watching you will see me looking nice. I 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: just came up with our ingram set. And then you'll 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: see an earlier shot at me during the injury that 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Andrew colvit from Turning Point in USA, where I'm inside 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: a relative's office slash gym. And if you think that 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: that sounds chaotic, it was actually far crazier in real life. 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: So that is that was my day. Also, by the way, 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: I did an interview, a radio show interview, and I 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: realized that I was saying the words sit there a 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: number of times. And because my audience likes to remind 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: me that I do these kinds of things, I am 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: now trying very hard to monitor my speech. I'm trying 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: to be a better person because you're all mocking me, 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: which I appreciate. I like. I like that kind of 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: pain and torment. It reminds me of my childhood. Anyway, 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: So we have Andrew Kolpa coming on. He's a Turning 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Point USA spokesman. He was very close fest to Charlie Kirk. 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: He was his producers have interesting conversation about him and 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: about data and about the twenty twenty four sorry sorry, 24 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six elections, in the twenty twenty eight presidential elections, 25 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: and how Turning Point USA will play a part in that. First, 26 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: I want to get some data. The American Reapportionment Project 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: is at what their latest estimates for the twenty thirty 28 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: congressional reapportionment. Those are how the electoral collegees and households 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: will change once the Census comes out with their official 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: data for that decade. Right, I know, twenty thirty seems 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: like a million years away, it's only five which is 32 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: crazy because you know, for millennials like me, in nineteen 33 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: ninety is only ten years ten years ago. So I 34 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: don't know how twenty thirty is only five years away 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: from but that's how my brain works. So here's what 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: the estimates that are coming out via the Census are showing. 37 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: And for those who are listening, I have a picture 38 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: on my YouTube channel of what they are estimating. They 39 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: asked me that California is set to lose four congres 40 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: rectional districts. Now, remember California just cherryman of their seats, 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: which means many of those districts will be Democrats when 42 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: they're lost. They say Illinois will lose one, New York 43 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 1: will lose one, in Minnesota will lose one, Oregon will 44 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: lose one, and Rhode Island will lose one. All told, 45 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: Blue states will lose nine electoral votes and nine electoral 46 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: votes and nine House districts. Purple states will gain a 47 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: net of one, with Pennsylvania and Wisconsin both losing one, Arizona, Georgia, 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: and North Carolina all gaining one. That's a net of one. 49 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: Some people on Twitter to understand it, I'm like three 50 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: minus two equals one. Red states like Utah, Idaho, Florida, 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: and Texas will gain a total of eight. Now, I 52 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: want to remind you that based off these estimates from 53 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: July first, twenty twenty four to July first, twenty twenty five. 54 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: So really, if you think when Trump took over end 55 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: of January, it's really seven months of the Biden administration 56 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: and five months of the Trump administration, So these really 57 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: aren't a full year of Trump's policies, right, especially ramped 58 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: up after the Big beautiful Bill Ice that was after January, 59 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: so it doesn't even include that. Now, this isn't even 60 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: the worst map for Democrats. Doctor Jonathan's service from Carnegie 61 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: Mellon University. He's the one who drew the independent congressional 62 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: redistrict in New York State. He has New York losing 63 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: two instead of one, Illinois losing two instead of one. 64 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: He has Blue states losing a total of eleven seats 65 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: and Electoral College votes for red states getting one and 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: Purple states getting in net of one. What does that mean? 67 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: And I've said this on this podcast before in the 68 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: twenty thirties, you don't have to win Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, 69 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, New Mexico, Minnesota to win the White House 70 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: as a Republican. You need North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Ohio, Texas, 71 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: and Arizona. That's it. That's all it is. Hillary could 72 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: have won that blue wall, Kama could have won that 73 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: blue wall. It wouldn't have mattered. They would have managed. 74 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: They still lost the presidency. In other words, it's looking 75 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: more and more favorable for Republicans to dominate an entire decade. 76 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: It will also bring House seats. Now, not all that 77 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: will be Republican because remember Democrats get to draw districts, 78 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: Republicans to draw districts. It might net Republicans a total 79 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: of five new House seats right overall. But still, I 80 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: mean Mike Johnson would take five hot new house seats. 81 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: He definitely would. I mean, it was so tight for 82 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: most of the year. And remember that these estimates go 83 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: until as I said, until July. What they're showing is 84 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: is that California lost over two hundred and twenty thousand 85 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: Americans of net migration outflow. That means people left the state. 86 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: New York lost over one hundred and forty thousand, Illinois 87 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: lost over forty thousand. And as Trump continues to cramp 88 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: down on illegal immigration and reduce legal immigration, that means 89 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: that those states which are so dependent on immigration may 90 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: be in free fall. It wouldn't be shocking if California 91 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: lost five seats or if New York lost two to three. 92 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this is very real a possibility, and it 93 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: puts other states to other democratic states in a very 94 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: precarious situation. As this goes forward, it also questions blue 95 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: states that are right now like Virginia, Abigail Spamberger is 96 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: looking to sit there and have all these very left 97 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: wing policies on tax and taxes and spending. If that happens, 98 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: there's no reason why those Virginians may not go to 99 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: West Virginia, may not go to North Carolina. It may 100 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: cause other problems in other blue states. They all have 101 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: to sit there and look out because it may damage 102 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: their state's political potential at the federal level. And I 103 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: can't emphasize this enough. If Trump continues with his crackdown, 104 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: if he's all pedaled, no break on immigration, it is 105 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: going to change the entire next decade. He cannot blink. 106 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 1: This is the future of America because remember what happens 107 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: in the next decade, possibly Sonya Sotomayor possibly retires of 108 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: shoust and go sooner, or Alena Kagan retires with shouts 109 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: and go sooner. All the remaining Clinton judges, the Obama judges. 110 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: This will be a defining moment so long as President 111 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: Trump does not blink on immigration enforcement, does not blink 112 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: on mass deportations. Now, the census data says that there's 113 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: been one point three million people, was a net one 114 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: point three million immigrants over the twenty twenty four to 115 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five year that comes in at odds with 116 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: the Brookings Institute estimate. The Census says that they are 117 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: not the authority because the sample size is too small 118 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: and that the American Community Survey setample, which will come 119 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: later this year, is the one to really look at. 120 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: So I'll come back to you when it comes to that. 121 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: But there's other data there that is saying that mass 122 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: deportation is happening and slowly. Birth data, Now I've said 123 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: this on the show before, that birth data is a 124 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: lagging indicator, right, because if you're seven months pregnant, six 125 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: months pregnant, you're gonna hold out. You're gonna sit there 126 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: and say, I'm going to have this baby and have 127 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: a citizen here and then you know, figure out how 128 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: to get get back into the country or stay in 129 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: the country because I have a child who's an American citizen. 130 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: But if you don't have children, you know, leaving is 131 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: not as a big is not a big thing. So 132 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: when Trump came in and he was someone who was 133 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: illegal alien, was five months pregnant, six months pregnant, they're 134 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: absolutely going to stay. When Trump. When when I started 135 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: enforcing Trump's immigration rules. Around August September October, we saw 136 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: a noticeable decline in the foreign born, in the population 137 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: of foreign born nationals. I broke this down on my 138 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: subset the National Populist Newsletter, which I'll make available for 139 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: everybody after this podcast comes out. But what says there 140 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: and says is that around October there was a plummet 141 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: and that populations and foreign nationals would have large illegal 142 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: alien populations in the United States. Chinese nationals, for example, 143 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: if a declining birth rate of twenty four percent from 144 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: October twenty twenty twenty four to October twenty twenty five. 145 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: Comparing those two numbers, Colombians are down to Columbia nationals 146 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: down thirteen percent, Dominican Dominican nationals down thirteen percent, Ecuadorians 147 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: down thirty percent. El Salvadorian's down thirty four percent, Ethiopians 148 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: down sixteen percent, Guatamalin's down sixteen percent, Honduran's down tw 149 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: twenty percent, jim Akins nineteen, Nigerian twenty seven, Nicaraguan's eighteen, 150 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: Filipinos sixteen. This is not just in the natural bounds 151 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: of how populations have children. This shows a massive decline 152 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: around our time, art of immigration enforcement really spikes up. 153 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: Very few immigrant groups had flat or rising birth rates. 154 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: If they did, they have usually large legal populations. Right. Indians, Afghans, Brits, 155 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: and Cubans were among those populations with the very large 156 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: illegal presence, though were substantially hit in the birth data 157 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: according to the sense that CDC rather now Census the 158 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: Center for Disease Control numbers that had just come out. 159 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: What that means is not only declining birth as far 160 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: as illegal aliens coming in, but the babies that illegal 161 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: aliens would have. This will also affect Democrats for House 162 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: seats in places like California, New York, New Jersey. So 163 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: the question really is how do Republicans make sure they 164 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: keep this going right? How do Republicans sit there and 165 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: say we have to win in twenty twenty eight. How 166 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: do we make sure you Republican victory in twenty twenty 167 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: eight happens. That's the question I will discuss with Andrew 168 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: Colbott from Turning Point USA coming up next. Stay tuned. 169 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Colbott, a spokesman for Turning Point in USA and 170 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: the producer of the Charlie Kirk show, Thank You Come 171 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: Coming on the show. I really appreciate it, and I 172 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: honored to be with you. Man. You've been on my 173 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: show a number of times, so it's great. I do 174 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: to pay it back. I know, I'm really excited and 175 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm always happy that you like even let me on this. 176 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: It's nice. 177 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: You know. 178 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: It's really funny. When I talked to a member of 179 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: the Trump campaign, they told me the Turning Point action 180 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: did more to help electro enemy outside group in couple 181 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: including Elons, and it was like a high up person 182 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: and I never share that before with anybody, including you, 183 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: So I did want to tell you that. What you know. 184 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: First of all, I want to ask you the real question, 185 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: like how are you I mean, your life changed more 186 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: in the last six months than like anyone could possibly imagine, 187 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: Like how are you dealing? Yeah, I thank you for 188 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: that question. 189 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: I'm well, you know, I think doing much better in 190 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six than I did in twenty five. 191 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five was awful. 192 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: It will go down in my own personal history is 193 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: probably I hope that was the worst year ever. You know, 194 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: Losing Charlie the way we lost Charlie was truly insane 195 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 2: and awful and traumatic. 196 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm a Christian. You know, one of 197 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: the things. 198 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: That I said actually at the memorial I got the 199 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: honor to speak at Charlie's memorial, was that we don't 200 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: grieve the way the world grieves, and we trust the 201 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: Lord even when we don't see the rhyme or reason. 202 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: And you know, I can just say that I've felt 203 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: the prayers of strangers. 204 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: More in these last few months than. 205 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: I've ever felt and probably will ever feel in the future. 206 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're sustaining. You're the producer of the show. 207 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: Show was supposed to go on, and here's a lot 208 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: that it's not even just the emotional things is a lot. 209 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to check on you because I 210 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: actually know I appreciate that. 211 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: Honestly, twenty twenty six has been much better and I feel, 212 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: you know, Charlie and I we started the show, you know, 213 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: we looked up to Rush Limbaugh, and some of the 214 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: things I've been thinking recently is kind of reflecting back 215 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: on those on those first conversations, and I asked Charlie, 216 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 2: I said, would you want to be president? 217 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: You want to be Rush Limbaugh? 218 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: And you know, listen, people have speculated whether or not 219 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: he was going to become president someday or whatever. But 220 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: I can tell you that conversation I have with him, 221 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 2: he said, you know, I want to be Rush. I 222 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: think there's more power. And just recently, because I've had 223 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 2: to sort of assume some show hosting duties. 224 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: On the show, I've remembered that excitement. 225 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: I've remembered the joy and the honor that it is 226 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: to get to host a daily show and talk about 227 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: the news and to lead people. And it's so there's 228 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: joy in that. And it's a bittersweet because I miss 229 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: Charlie every day. Every day I come into this studio 230 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: and I see his empty chair next to me, and 231 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 2: it sucks awful and nothing will ever replace him. 232 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: But it's an honor to do what we do for 233 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: moment of the show that I wasn't even on. He 234 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: had on Steve Sailor one time, and it was a 235 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: very controvers episode, but he had on Steve Sailor and 236 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: they talked about deaths from COVID, and Steve Sailor and 237 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: Shinn randomly that produced radio show hosts are overweight and 238 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: so they're more likely to die from car mobilities, and 239 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: Charlie he was like, yeah, I know it. I'm definitely 240 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: put on way beating your radio. It was those funny 241 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: random dakeaway it was that's a random memory. 242 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was the catch remember that that Steve 243 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: Saylor that that episode in particular was something that always 244 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: came back around. I would get because I handled all 245 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 2: of Charlie's press, and you know, I would wrestle with 246 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: reporters on his behalf and they would always be like, well, 247 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: you know, Charlie has been a very controversial figure with 248 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: people like Steve Saylor, And I was like, okay, you know, 249 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: like you're you're a host of a show. You're gonna 250 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: have controversial people on. That's kind of the gig. 251 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: What's the problem. But no, it gave back to so 252 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: when people think of Charlie, there's like ten different Charlie's right, 253 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: there was the political brain, which always got better, but 254 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: there was also the radio show host and the podcast 255 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: and a writer and all the rest of it. When 256 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 1: it comes to the political brain, right where to who 257 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: can and who Maybe that's not the right question, but 258 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: how can the right fulfill and can keep momentum with 259 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: young people. 260 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: Going yeah, yeah, I think you're the phrasing of the 261 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: question is part of the answer, right, the who will 262 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: never be replaced. I can't replace him. You can't replace him, 263 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: Matt Walsh, can't replace them, Michael Noles. It doesn't matter 264 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: who you look at. Nobody can replace Charlie. I think 265 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: JD says it best Jadie Vance when he says, if 266 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: each of us do our small piece of this puzzle, 267 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: then together we can we can make a difference. Together, 268 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: we can't get on the same page. I think JD 269 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 2: is is uniquely positioned to be a leader, a leading voice, 270 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: a field general, especially in his role as vice president 271 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: and hopefully one day as president. 272 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: But listen, we've all got to do our piece of this. 273 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: And I think you know, one of the hardest parts 274 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: about you know, Charlie not being with us anymore with 275 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: the youth boat, is that that campus drum beat, right, 276 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: just mixing it up with liberal students on campus. I 277 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: can tell you the turning point. We're we're continuing the tours, 278 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: the pick up the mic tour. We've got a bunch 279 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: of our friends that are gonna come come be a 280 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: part of that tour. They're gonna be doing prove me wrong. 281 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: So they're gonna be doing the evening events where you 282 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: you know, if you've disagreed, come to the front of 283 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: the line. So all of that's gonna be great, and 284 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: we've got a whole content strategy of us how to 285 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: grow that. What's that, when's that's worth start. We're actually 286 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: gonna announcing tour dates next week, so TVD on that. 287 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: But it's gonna be the it's gonna be the spring 288 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: campus tour, and then we're gonna have a fall campus 289 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: tour head of the midterms. So all of that is 290 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: very much still part of what we plan to do. 291 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: And then we also have to make Heaven Crowded Tour, 292 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: which has already started in southern California. We're gonna keep 293 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: bringing that all across the country. And that's to take 294 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: sort of the revival energy that we saw at Charlie's 295 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: memorial and take it out across the country. 296 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: So we're going to have, you know, this drumbeat of content. 297 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna be clipping, we're gonna be spreading it, we're 298 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: gonna be doing all of that stuff on a messaging 299 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: side as best as we can, as best as we 300 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: can without Charlie. I mean, one of the things that 301 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: people failed to fully appreciate about Charlie in his life, 302 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: you know, and I think they do now and his 303 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: death is Charlie would had this uncanny ability to walk 304 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: into a room that was like bored. Young people would 305 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: be like zoning out on their phones, and you know, 306 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: people at the microphone droning on. They would lose track 307 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: of it, and then he would come up to the 308 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: mic and their ears would perk up and they would 309 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: instantly be like, whatever this guy has to say, I 310 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: might hate it, I may love it, but I'm going 311 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: to pay attention to it. And that was a God 312 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: given gift to Charlie to cut through the noise. And 313 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: and you just can't replace that. But we all have 314 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: to just do our part and do our best. But listen, 315 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: the pr battle, the hearts and mind's battle is. 316 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: Going to be one on social media. There's there's no 317 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: He was a content machine, right But how do you 318 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: right now, you hosting this radio show, how do you 319 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: sit there and say this is the narrative on immigration 320 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: or whatever the case is. How do you sit there? 321 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: Where do you come in as a guest house from 322 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: a show. It's not a guess, but a fulfillment of 323 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: a fulfiller, of not filler, but a replacement rather for him, 324 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: sorry lack of wars abilities sometimes as the replacement. Do 325 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: you sit there and say, this is the conservative take, 326 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: this is Charlie's take, would be this is my take. 327 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: Do you ever wrestle with that conversation? Oh? For sure, 328 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean every day I wrestle with that. 329 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm essentially, you know, assuming some of the 330 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: hosting duties for the Charlie kirkshow now it bears his name, 331 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: and so every day I'm like, what would Charlie say? 332 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: What would what does the conservative movement need to hear? 333 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: What does the administration need to hear? What does the 334 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: base need to hear? So I wrestle with that every 335 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: day and I think about it constantly. But I also 336 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: understand that I need to be me, and I can't 337 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: do what Charlie did. I have to do the best 338 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: job Andrew Cole they can do. And it's an honor 339 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: to be behind the microphone. It's an honor to have 340 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: those eight years that I spent so closely working with 341 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 2: Charlie through the issues. So I kind of feel like 342 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: I have almost like a Charlie GPT somewhere back of 343 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: my mind, you know, and it was people have to 344 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: appreciate like it would be so granular that it would 345 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: be a tweet that was going out and working on 346 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: how we wanted to present that with Charlie. What was 347 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: the messaging that we wanted to break down, what was 348 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: the storyline we wanted to get across. And it was 349 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 2: day after day after day of doing that over years, 350 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: and so you kind of you kind of learned the 351 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: way this worked. You learn the way that what Charlie 352 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: would do. But again, I am my own voice. I 353 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: have to I have to honor that fact that God 354 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: made me to be Andrew Colvett and not Charlie Kirk. 355 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: God made one Charlie Kirk. And so again you have 356 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: to just do the. 357 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: Best you can do and leave it all on the 358 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: field and let the results be what they may. 359 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: But you know, take those learnings. And you mentioned that 360 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: there's ten Charlie Kirks. 361 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: There was the political organizer, there was the activist, there 362 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 2: was a social media guy that was the show. And 363 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: you know, there's different pieces of the Charlie puzzle and 364 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: we you know, a turning point, for example, we've got 365 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: Tyler Boyer still running Turning Point Action, Erica Kirk obviously 366 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: stepping into CEO role. She has a special heart for 367 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: campuses in high schools, so that was Charlie's kind of 368 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 2: the college guy. Erica's like, really got a heart for 369 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: high schoolers. You know, We've got TPUSA faith with Lucas Miles. 370 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: So we have these field generals that are in position 371 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 2: on these different places, at least on the Turning Point side. 372 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: But I would just say I would submit to you this. 373 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: I think a lot of these questions come out of 374 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: like November December, you know, social media vibes which were terrible, 375 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: which was like all time low. You know, the disunity 376 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: was rife. But I do feel like in twenty twenty 377 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: six things feel different right and I want. 378 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: To make it right now for sure, And we actually 379 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: have as a as a as a movement, we have 380 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 1: more of a mission. And we obviously also know if 381 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: we're not successful, as the Democrats really sweep in twenty 382 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: twenty sixth someone in the Senate and the House, it's 383 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: going to be a brutal two years of investigations of 384 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: people wanted to drop by the administration, and it makes 385 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight harder. It just does. And I started 386 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: the whole show. My whole introduction was about the twenty 387 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: thirty reapportionment. All these blue states are losing population, the 388 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: red states are getting population. Arizona is in again a 389 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: House seat. But if in twenty twenty eight we lose 390 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: the presidency, there's two years to flood the border again 391 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: and try to really I mean, twenty three has a 392 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: lot online. It's going to decide whether we have our 393 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: conservative decade or they're going to sit there and do 394 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: Joe Biden you know, on on speed. 395 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I totally agree. I will say one thing 396 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: about twenty twenty six. You know, cook Political report has 397 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: this like two ten to twelve solidly red seats. We 398 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: need to get to two eighteen, right in order for 399 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: the midterms to really be a success. Right, I like 400 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: our chances of holding the Senate. We might lose a seat, whatever. 401 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: If we can do that, I think that will be 402 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: a huge accomplishment. 403 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: If we don't do that, I don't I don't think 404 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: all hope is lost. 405 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: Right. We will take whatever the Democrats send our way, 406 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: and we will use it to slingshot. 407 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: That's what we have to do. 408 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: We have to take their momentum use it against them 409 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: like a wrestler would. So if they do insane things, 410 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 2: if they get control God forbid of the house, you know, 411 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: we can make you know, lemonade out of lemons there too. 412 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 2: So I'm not like a glass half full guy on this. 413 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 2: We're we don't know how the midterms are going to 414 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: play out. I want to win them. I want to 415 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: win them so bad. Everything I'm doing every day is 416 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: about winning the midterms. Everything we're doing at turning Point 417 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: actions about winning the midterms, everything we're doing candidly in 418 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 2: all the different words. If that doesn't happen, they're going 419 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: to show us even more insanity. 420 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: They're going to show us. 421 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: How unreal reasonable they are, how unrealistic they are, and 422 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: how they don't have the best interest in the United 423 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: States at heart. They just want to throw gears in 424 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: the wrenches or wrenches and the gears rather of the 425 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: Trump administration. We can't let that happen. But if it 426 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: does happen, you've got to believe there's enough virtue left 427 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: in this population, in the in the in the body 428 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 2: politics of the United States that they. 429 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: Can see through the noise. 430 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 2: They can see through the propaganda and realize that you 431 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 2: know that twenty twenty eight has to go a different way. 432 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: So I'm I'm optimistic for twenty twenty eight, I really am. 433 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: And we're working to build the red Wall in New Hampshire, Arizona, 434 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: Nevada got to hold the sun Belt. There's no doubt 435 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: about it. But I think there's there's reason to be optimistic. 436 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, I think turning point action is 437 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: I mean make is a make or break in a 438 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 1: lot of ways of what they what they're doing. And 439 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: obviously there's things that we can't control, right, we couldn't 440 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: control COVID, We couldn't control a lot of things that 441 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: you know takes its effect and we can only kind 442 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: of roll with the dice. But are the things that 443 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: we can control, I think turning point action plays a 444 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: key role, and especially when you think right in twenty 445 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: twenty six, Nancy Pelos is retiring, Schumer may very well 446 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: be out, the McConnell is out, the older generation Trump 447 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: is out. In twenty twenty eight, it is a generational change. 448 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: And when you think of young Democrats and young Republicans, 449 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: AOC or our Jazz and Crocket or you compare it 450 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: to JD. Vans or Brandon Gill or Schmidt. It is 451 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: a sea change of just thought and ideas. Do you 452 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: get that opinion at all from how younger Republicans are 453 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: than older ones? Yeah? 454 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 2: Well, I mean younger Republicans are complete way more radical 455 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: the students that we have at Turning Put USA. I 456 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 2: mean they want h one be gone, they want immigration moratorium. 457 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: I mean, these aren't even negotiables. They're not even wrestling 458 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: with these issues. So, you know, the old dogs that 459 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: are still you know, in the Senate, in the House. 460 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: You know, I think there could be a real upside 461 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: to it. Now. 462 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: The downside is that the left is also more radical. 463 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: They are they've lost their minds. I mean, these are Unamerican. 464 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: A lot of them are outright socialists DSA, some of 465 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: them are probably communists, let's be honest. 466 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: So you have to take the good with the bad. 467 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 2: I mean Gavin Newsom, for example, I hear a lot 468 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: of people rage against Gavin Newsom. Yeah, the guy's not 469 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: a good governor. The terrible idea is wait till you 470 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: see what's. 471 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: Coming from behind him. 472 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 2: I mean, at least Gavin newsom likes, you know, at 473 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: least sensibly likes capitalism. The guys that are coming behind 474 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: him hate it. We're gonna have a massive clash. And 475 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: by the way, this is what Charlie was warning about. 476 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: You know, there are no modern Democrats anymore. We're either 477 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: gonna get Mangionism and mom Donnism. 478 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: Or we're gonna get Maga. 479 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: You're gonna get this national populist movement, and so the 480 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: stakes have never been higher. 481 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty eight is critically important. I completely agree with you, but. 482 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: I think we can survive twenty twenty six because we're 483 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: still gonna have the White House and we're still gonna 484 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: be able to control the border. But yeah, I mean 485 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: a lot of things get much more difficult Mangonism. 486 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: I took me a second. I was like, that's not apasta. 487 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: There is okay, last question for you, and then this 488 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: is it. It's not a question is more. I think 489 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: something that Turning Point could do a little differently. I 490 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: wish you would do this a little bit, or just 491 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: something they would do extra to all your collegees. And 492 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: I interacted with some of the young people. They have 493 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: a version of conservative heroes that I think is slightly disordered, right, 494 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,239 Speaker 1: the opinion of like William F. Buckley is kind of 495 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: like somebody who've got it wrong more times than they 496 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: got it right, when in fact he was right more 497 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: than he was wrong, or other people. I would like 498 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: turning point to kind of put a collection together for 499 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: young people of like the men and women who built this, 500 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: who built this movement, from Schlafley to Kirk, or from Kirk, 501 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: from Kirk to Kirk, from Russell Kirk to Charlie Kirk. 502 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: That would be great, like literally the list of people 503 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: you should know and why they were important. They weren't perfect, 504 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: they did something's wrong, but they built this and we 505 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: are just walking in giant shoes right now, they're footprints. 506 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: Is that something that you would be open to you? 507 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you should build the reading list. I 508 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 2: think you should do this with us them. Yeah, I 509 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 2: totally think we should. 510 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: Totally. And by the way, I love from Russell Kirk 511 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: to Charlie Kirk. I love that. I mean you could 512 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: go back further, but I but you know, let's. 513 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: Honestly, I think I think Russell Kirk, you know, in 514 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: the fifties was really the start of so much of this, 515 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: and so I'm I think that's a great starting point. 516 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: But plus he was distilling a lot of the learnings 517 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: starting back to the French Revolution, and so it's a 518 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: good starting point. 519 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: So I agree with you that, you know, having. 520 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: A knowledge of the histories that brought us here and 521 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: the ideological underpinnings that have informed so much of modern conservatism, 522 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: intellectual vanguard of modern conservatism is really important and young 523 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: people always need to be taught that. 524 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I think you should. You should. 525 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 2: You should send me a list of who you think 526 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 2: should be in a mandatory history of modern intellectual conservatism 527 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: and and we could get that out. 528 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: I think that's it. That's an easy yeah, Andrew, Where 529 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: can people go to read more about your stuff? What 530 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: you're doing your podcast or show, my honest is much 531 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 1: small on yours, but still where can they go? 532 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 2: No, I appreciate it. Listen, Ryan, I think you're really important. 533 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: I love the way you break stuff down. That's why 534 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 2: we have you on the show. I mean, to be 535 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 2: perfectly honest, it was me following your stuff and I 536 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: was like, Charlie, you got to get Ryan on, and 537 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: he was like, Okay, let's do it, and then he, 538 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: you know, really enjoyed your guys to me than I deserved. 539 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: And after a while I was like, Ryan, stopped being 540 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: a dick. You have no reason to be. You to 541 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: stop being so aggressively New York all the time to people. 542 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: They don't get it. He's from the Midwest, he's nice. 543 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: Just stop doing it. That's that is actually a good 544 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: part of the history is you. 545 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: You would you would take sort of, you know, some barbs, 546 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: and you know, we said we sort of had to 547 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: absorb some of your critiques in the. 548 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: Past, and I was like, no, no, no, he's one 549 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: of the good guys, Charlie. It was. It was great. 550 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: Charlie got better and I always recognized that and I 551 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: always liked it. He was just sometimes he was he 552 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: was so wholesome that it was just easy to make 553 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: fun of at times. And I'm so I'm so jaded 554 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: and broken that it's not it was not him, it 555 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: was me, and I'm you know, it's funny. 556 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 2: I will say that, like Charlie, you know, if something 557 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: I keep in the top of my mind when we're 558 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 2: doing the show is that, you know, eleven year olds, 559 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 2: he would always say, like, you know, we would throw 560 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: out something spicy, some spicy idea for the show, and 561 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: he'd be like, listen, you know, eleven year olds watch 562 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: the show and they're they're paying attention to what I say. 563 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 2: And I'll that really stuck with me, honestly. But anyways, Yeah, 564 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: the Charlie Kirk Show, Uh, thanks, thanks me to God 565 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: genuinely that it's it's going strong and and the audience 566 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: has just been so faithful and loyal and there's so 567 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 2: many people that support us. I think this is just 568 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 2: they want to support Charlie. That the content is probably terrible, 569 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: so you know, fair warning. Yeah, we're doing our best, 570 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: but no, nobody's. 571 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: Gonna be Charlie. 572 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: But but thanks be to God, the show and the 573 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 2: audience is stuck with us. And we're live on Real 574 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 2: America's Voice after Bannon's war Room every day from twelve 575 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 2: to two Eastern and then yeah, you can follow me 576 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: on x AT Andrew Cole that and uh, it's uh, 577 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: we're we're mixing it up there for sure. And we 578 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: have uh we have ice in DHS is back right 579 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 2: now because they need it and we love Tom home 580 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: and and uh and uh so that's that's kind. 581 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: Of what you can see there all right, Andrew, thanksgarving 582 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: this podcast. I appreciate it. Now it's time for the 583 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: Ask Me Anything segment. If you want to be part 584 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: of the Ask Me Anything segment, email me Ryan at 585 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: Numbers Game Podcast dot com. That's Ryan at plural Numbers 586 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: gamepodcast dot com. This is a message from my buddy Joel, 587 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: who emails me frequently. I love your emails. Would you 588 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: support a constitutional amendment that outlaw is the classification of 589 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: individuals by race? In other words, nobody government, agencies, corporations, schools, 590 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: or individuals could collect or use race based data. No 591 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: one could claim racial discrimination in court because there's no 592 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: racial categories to support those claims. You're either the American 593 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: or you're not. I understand the how that could be appealing. 594 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: The thing is that France does that, and it doesn't 595 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: decline racial tensions in France or the acknowledgement of mass immigration. 596 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: What it does is leaves a lot of blank spots out. 597 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: I would rather more information the way that Denmark and 598 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: the Netherlands give a lot of information, rather than less. 599 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: I don't think just pretending a situation doesn't exist helps. 600 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: You'll also, you know, nonprofits and other groups like the 601 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: Brookens Institute that will sit there and collect data and 602 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: then the government can't refute in that data because they 603 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: doesn't have any I don't don't. I don't think that 604 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: I would support that, but interesting idea. Thank you, Joel. 605 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: Next question comes from Ben Ben writes, Hey, Ryan, soy 606 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: you on X. That's Twitter for the oldies like me. 607 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: So I want to ask that you had some beef 608 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: with your famous poster Frank Lunz. I'm curious if you 609 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: could dive deeper into your previous run into with Frank 610 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: and why there is beef there. I find it interesting 611 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: that people say is republic any he seems to always 612 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: take up take up for Democrats. I don't know why 613 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: people still take him seriously, because anymore he seems to 614 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: get a lot wrong. One example is said that Kamala 615 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: won the election with her debate performance in the debate 616 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: between her and Trump. Thank you God, blessed. Okay. I 617 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: actually only met Frank Luntz, I believe once, and it 618 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: was at the House of Representatives, and I forget which 619 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: building it was, but I ran into him and he 620 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: looked like a homeless man. I it's not I have 621 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: a beef with Frank Lanz. I don't respect Frank Lanz 622 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: and I don't respect what he does because Frank is 623 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: a very successful man. Because Frank takes on private clients 624 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: and I try to be very upfront with people about 625 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: who my client and I you know, I tell you, okay, 626 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm supporting this person. I'm supporting that person. I work 627 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: for them. And you know, hearing me saying there and 628 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: saying that that I am, I'm putting it all out 629 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: there right, I'm clearly coming with a bias that because 630 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: someone has hired me. That is not always the case, 631 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: I think with Frank, and the problem that I have 632 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: really is that Frank has always had ulterior motives in 633 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: all these massive media hits. There is a very well 634 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: known story and I wasn't there for it, so as 635 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: the secondhand story that I heard. There is a story 636 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: that Frank allegedly on election night twenty sixteen, before the 637 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: votes came in, was on the phone allegedly with Paul 638 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: Ryan and telling him I'm going to help you rebuild 639 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: the Republican Party. That Trump burnt down very vocally supportive 640 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: of amnesty for illegal aliens, very supportive of a number 641 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: of things that were in complete defiance of the Republican 642 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: party parties base, and I just you know, there was 643 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: so much of the mid twenty tens and the early 644 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: twenty tens really before social media, where you know, cable 645 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: news and certain I guess, older traditional writers and influencers 646 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: had a lot much larger presence on what people's thought 647 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: process was, and they would say, I'm going to make 648 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: you believe this whether you like it or not. And 649 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: I remember very distinctly, I think it was Frank It 650 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: was either Franklinz or was Dick Morris where I was 651 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: on Bill O'Reilly after the McCain loss in two thousand 652 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: and eight, and they kept on saying one of the 653 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: two of them, I forget which one it was, but 654 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: I was saying, there's really smart future conservatives out there, 655 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: like Paul Ryan. And Paul Ryan's name was mentioned like 656 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: seven times in a row. And I talked to my 657 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: dad the next day and he said, you know who 658 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: I really let. My dad's a big Republican, So you 659 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: know what I really like. I like that Paul Ryan guy. 660 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: And I said why? And I had watched the same 661 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: show that he had watched without telling him, I'd watched 662 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: it and he was like why, and I'm like, he's 663 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: actually I don't know. And I was like the brainwashing 664 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: the boomers, like this is complete. You're just regurgitating what 665 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: you heard on cable news. And I always thought Paul 666 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: Ryan was a sham. I didn't vote for Mitt Romney 667 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: because Paul Ryan was on the ticket. I just I 668 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: never liked not not impersonally, but his politics. I never 669 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: liked him. And I think that Frank has done a 670 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: number of things to thwart or try to thwart public 671 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: opinion on the right of Donald Trump's, of Donald Trump's 672 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: popular stuff that I agree with, that I have fought 673 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: for since I was an adult. And I his stupid 674 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,479 Speaker 1: stupid panels where everyone's like raising their hand. Oh, I 675 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: like this part of the commercial. I'll give me a 676 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,239 Speaker 1: freaking break, Like this is so dumb. But Frank has 677 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: made a business out of that, and I just I 678 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't have a lot of respect for him. 679 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: And it's not it's not that I don't like him, 680 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: I don't respect him. And that's how I feel out 681 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people in politics. It's not that I 682 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: don't like them, I don't I don't think about people 683 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: I don't like. I only make fun of you if 684 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: I like you. I don't respect him because he does 685 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: things and it says things that are just not a 686 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: perfect example. One last thing about Franklins. There was a 687 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: there was a BBC I think it was BBC. It 688 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: was a British event and it was right after Boris 689 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: Johnson had his massive, massive victory and it wasn't air 690 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: in America, so you guys probably didn't see it. But 691 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: it's this massive victory and Frank Cloins gives a speech 692 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: to the Conservative Party of the UK and this is 693 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: right before COVID too, and since there and says, uh, 694 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: I know, I just said, sits there. I know, guys, 695 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: I know I'm monitoring when I say he stood there 696 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: and he sat there and said I just did it again. 697 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: He stood there and said that he that the Tories, 698 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: the Conservative Party, was on its way to an unprecedented 699 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: more victories, that Boris Johnson would only lead them to 700 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: more successful election victories as long as he did one thing, 701 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: avoid populism like Donald Trump. And within a year a 702 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: year and a half of that statement that Franklins gave 703 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: Vor Johnson was universally disliked in the UK, the Conservative 704 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: Party was on a downward spiral and they imported millions 705 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: upon millions of people, causing a housing crisis and more 706 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: conflicts and bringing in murderers and rapists from migrant countries 707 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: into the UK, increasing gang rapes, brand gang grooming, grooming gangs. 708 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 2: Like. 709 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 1: Everything the man said was completely, completely and totally wrong. 710 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: And I don't like people who do media things like 711 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: that and never sit there and say, wow, I got 712 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: it wrong. I should try better. And he's never made 713 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: that stuff anyway. All right, that's the show today. Thank 714 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: you guys for listening. I really appreciate you all. Please 715 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: like and subscribe to the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts. You 716 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: never miss an up pisode awesome in the YouTube. Please 717 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: subscribe there give me a five star review if you're 718 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: feeling generous or a thumbs up on any video. It 719 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: helps the podcast kind of get out more. So, thank you, guys. 720 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: I will talk to you all on Friday.