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Speaker 1: What's going everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Inside American Soccer and we are here

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Speaker 2: for episode four, a special episode reacting to the World

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Speaker 2: Cup draw that just happened. Yes, the United States has

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Speaker 2: learned their group stage opponents. We're gonna break it down,

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Speaker 2: what all of it means, what all the permutations are,

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Speaker 2: what we're excited about, and Tab, we are excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tom.

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Speaker 2: Boger, joined as always by Tab Ramos, one of the

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Speaker 2: US Soccer's best ever players, very successful USU twenty youth

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Speaker 2: international coach.

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Speaker 3: Tab.

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Speaker 1: The ping pong balls bounced weirdly.

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Speaker 2: FIFA decided that they are going to be the authority

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Speaker 2: on peace and gave out a prize to Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Hart was there because he needs a job. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't work enough, and so he had to be there.

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't he be. Wayne Gretzky's there, did not brief

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Speaker 2: himself on how to pronounce Kurosaw, among others, And there

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Speaker 2: was a whole lot of cringe in the ninety minutes

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Speaker 2: before we got to the World Cup draw actually happening.

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Speaker 1: Tab, you were invited to go.

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Speaker 2: To the draw, but we we kind of held you

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Speaker 2: back because you were you were here to do this,

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Speaker 2: So I got to tell you it's snowing in Washington,

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Speaker 1: And that was a very very long ordeal.

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Speaker 2: Tap are you disappointed that you're sitting here and you're

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Speaker 2: not still filing out of the Kennedy Center?

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Speaker 3: And you know, there's there's very few things that are

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Speaker 3: good about getting old, but this is one of the

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Speaker 3: good ones that you know to not go to stuff

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Speaker 3: like this. I mean, where do we start, right, Kevin Hart?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know you're saying he needs a job,

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Speaker 3: but you know, I on YouTube, I see him. Every

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Speaker 3: other commercial is Kevin Hart, So I don't I don't

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Speaker 3: think he needs a job exactly. Yeah, obviously, Wayne Gretzky,

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Speaker 3: there's not a lot of hockey being played in Kurasau,

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Speaker 3: so he's likely not knowing not knowing that name, right.

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Speaker 3: But overall, I have to say, you know, pretty uh,

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Speaker 3: pretty happy day. I mean, we we got the absolute

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Speaker 3: possibly the best row we could get. You know, we're

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Speaker 3: playing teams. We know, I think Group B I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: Pot Too was gonna be the one that was gonna

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Speaker 3: dictate where we went and how the how this was

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Speaker 3: gonna go. And by getting Australia in that group. I

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Speaker 3: think we we ended up being in good shape. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: overall it's a little bit of a circus. I get it,

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Speaker 3: and uh No, I'm happy to be home and not

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Speaker 3: be in DC right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: I think the snow coming in uh in early December

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Speaker 2: and DC really set the tone for what the day

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Speaker 2: would be. Listen, we want to get to the soccer,

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Speaker 2: that's all you and I really care about. But I

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Speaker 2: also wanted to just get to the soccer the whole

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Speaker 2: time during the draw. So because FIFA decided to do

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Speaker 2: what they did, I'm gonna take a minute here to

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Speaker 2: shred the pomp and circumstance and everything that just happened.

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Speaker 2: It's it's good to joke about. I'm glad we laughed.

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Speaker 2: That's the That's the best way to get through the

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Speaker 1: What that was. Honest to God, who is this for?

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Speaker 1: Who asked for this? Who wanted this?

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Speaker 2: Outside of maybe Johnny and Fantino, maybe maybe the United

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Speaker 2: Does any average fan want any of that? Does any

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Speaker 2: average fan want Rio Ferdinand doing skits jokes within the

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Speaker 1: The entire time.

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Speaker 2: I was cringing the entire time the fact that FIFA

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Speaker 2: is making a peace prize. Why, I don't understand who

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Speaker 2: is this for. I don't understand ol FIFA can continue

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Speaker 2: to be so out of touch. The best way I

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Speaker 2: can sum it up is my expectations were low, but

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Speaker 2: my god, they still did not come close to that.

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Speaker 2: So TAB, let's finally get into the soccer. All right,

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Speaker 2: I've had enough of the Red Guard, but the Tom

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Speaker 2: was funny. That was the bright spot.

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Speaker 4: But let's talk.

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Speaker 1: About some soccer. The United States leading Group D.

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Speaker 2: They got a very very favorable draw Australia, Paraguay and

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Speaker 2: the UEFA playoff winner, which will be one of Turkey, Slovakia, Romano,

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Speaker 2: TAB big picture thought, what a favorable draw?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you have to say that, right and

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Speaker 3: not like these teams are going on vacation. This is

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Speaker 3: be difficult. Having said that, I think, if you know,

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Speaker 3: Turkey is likely the best of the European group that

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Speaker 3: we can potentially play, and if we play Turkey, these are,

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Speaker 3: you know, Paraguay, Australia, Turkey are three of the last

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Speaker 3: five opponents we've had already this year. So I think

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Speaker 3: we're in a great place. I I you know, I

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Speaker 3: like our matchup with Paraguay, although I do feel Paraguay

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Speaker 3: in a one off will be much more difficult than

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Speaker 3: they were in a friendly game in the middle of

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Speaker 3: October in the US. You know, Australia obviously we played

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Speaker 3: them in Colorado. Australia is Australia. They're a hard working team,

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Speaker 3: give nothing away in terms of the fact that they

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Speaker 3: have good players. But we're better than Australia. There's no

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Speaker 3: other way to say it. And then we'll see what

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Speaker 3: happens with the Turkey group. If they get through, Turkey

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Speaker 3: will be the difficult They already beat us, but I

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Speaker 3: think we beat ourselves a little bit more than Turkey

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Speaker 3: this is a very good group for us, and it

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Speaker 3: forced me to look past this group and say, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know, we likely don't have a really tough matchup

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Speaker 3: until round of sixteen where we could potentially beat Belgium

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Speaker 3: meet Belgium. So I think this is a great draw.

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Speaker 3: This is a great draw.

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Speaker 2: I do think it's important to eco what you said.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to sound disrespectful to these other teams.

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Speaker 2: They're all here on merit, they're all really good. There

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Speaker 2: are nothing There is no such easy game at a

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Speaker 2: World Cup. You know that better than anybody. But there

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Speaker 2: are harder games, and there was a whole lot of

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Speaker 2: harder opponents on the board here. Just again Australia Pot two.

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Speaker 2: We avoided Columbia, Croatia, Uruguay, Ecuador, and a handful of

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Speaker 2: others that I think would have been more difficult than Australia,

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Speaker 2: particularly after the United States. Just speed Australia and I

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Speaker 2: thought they were very handedly the better team, and like

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Speaker 2: you said, like just just kind of no two ways

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Speaker 2: I think Neutrals would say the same with no disrespect

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Speaker 2: to Australia, right, Like I'm trying to threat walk the

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Speaker 2: but it could have been much much harder. Norway was

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Speaker 2: good team. They're a very very feisty team. They defend well,

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Speaker 2: they play well in transition. They have some special players

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Speaker 2: Holland right, like, this could all have been worse and

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Speaker 2: tad I right before the show, we were double checking. Okay,

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Speaker 2: if they win the group, they have to win the group. Right,

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Speaker 2: If they win the group, then who do they play

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Speaker 2: in the round of thirty two? Okay, who would they

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Speaker 1: So our first.

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Speaker 2: Takeaways are like, this is going to be a massive

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Speaker 2: disappointment if if they don't look good in the groups,

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Speaker 2: Like I think that they have to win the group.

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Speaker 3: I think there's no doubt that's what has to happen.

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Speaker 3: We'll be the favors in the group to win it.

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Speaker 3: And you know, here's one thing I look at. You know,

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Speaker 3: we in ninety and now go I'll go a little

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Speaker 3: bit into this later on, but in nineteen ninety we

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Speaker 3: since nineteen ninety you look at all the World Cups,

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Speaker 3: we haven't really had a US team play a game

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Speaker 3: not win it. I mean, you know, we listen, we

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Speaker 3: criticized teams, right, So you can go all the way

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Speaker 3: to nineteen ninety eight World Cup and we can talk

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Speaker 3: about we lost a round two to one. We likely

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Speaker 3: likely were the favorites in that game, but I'm not

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Speaker 3: but I'm not sure by how much. But then if

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Speaker 3: you look at the World Cup before, we weren't favored

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Speaker 3: before that we had three Europeans in our group. We

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Speaker 3: definitely weren't favored. And then you look at the World

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Speaker 3: have always come through in the World Cup. And if

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Speaker 3: we just do what we're supposed to do in this one,

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Speaker 3: we should be in first place in this group.

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Speaker 1: I completely agree.

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Speaker 2: And when we're talking about to draw on the abstract, honestly,

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Speaker 2: the only way that you could make an argument that

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Speaker 2: is why when Paraguay came up in Pot three that

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Speaker 2: stronger Pot four team. But the United States got favorable

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Speaker 2: way that this could have been argued of, like you know,

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Speaker 2: expectations for this group, for this team has to be

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Speaker 2: to win the group. For me, I know it will

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Speaker 2: be from recent Patino, the staff in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: They hopefully would have felt that same way no matter

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Speaker 2: back to the twenty two World Cup against Wales, expected

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Speaker 2: to win against Iran, expected to win against England. It

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Speaker 2: was a really it was a good draw, but it

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Speaker 2: was okay. They have to take the game to us.

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Speaker 2: And in these games again, particularly Australia and Paraguay, the

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Speaker 2: to break down the other team, to implant their will

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Speaker 2: And anything less than six points from those two games

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Speaker 2: going to be heavily criticized. And obviously, weird things happen

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Speaker 2: that's the pressure that's here.

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Speaker 1: And like you said, if they.

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Speaker 2: Topped the group, they would face in the round of

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Speaker 2: thirty two one of the third place teams, because this

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Speaker 2: is an expanded World Cup, it's not just the top

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Speaker 2: two to get through. They it's too difficult to try

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Speaker 2: to figure out who could one of the third place

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Speaker 2: you said, would be set up for Belgium. And while

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Speaker 2: Belgium are really really good, that's still avoiding Spain, France, Germany, Argentina, Brazil,

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Speaker 1: Like the path to the quarterfinals is wild.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But so here's where it gets a little interesting, right,

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Speaker 3: because coming in first place in that group gives you

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Speaker 1: It's a great way to put it. That's a great

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Speaker 2: No, And I'm really glad you brought that up too,

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, and right before we dive very

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean one comes to mind immediately, and that's Giorna.

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Speaker 1: Now I do too.

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Speaker 2: I think the only thought that I have based on

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Speaker 2: a quick scouting report. Again, people listening to this probably

436
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,360
Speaker 2: watched the game against Paraguay, so you're probably very familiar.

437
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,880
Speaker 2: What I think that they do best. Can tap feel

438
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 2: free to jump in wherever you either disagree. I think

439
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 2: that they are are very good in transition, They are

440
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 2: excellent defending, and they are just they don't give you

441
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 2: anything easy. You have to earn every blade aggress against

442
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 2: this Paraguay team. The work rate even on set pieces there,

443
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 2: they're going to be really difficult to kind of get

444
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 2: an opening on. This is going to be a very

445
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 2: tough team in the literal sense, as we saw with

446
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 2: that kind of you know coming together at the end

447
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 2: of that Paraguay game that revolved around Alex Freeman. So

448
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 2: I think that those are the pillars for this team.

449
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,479
Speaker 2: A couple of players that that should scare the United States.

450
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 2: Miguel Morone, but in Quiso and Diego Gomez, I think

451
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 2: are three different makers, difference makers going forward to potential

452
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 2: difference makers. And then the US can exploit this team

453
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 2: by killing them with the ball and breaking them down,

454
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 2: shifting them around. Yes, they have an incredible work rate

455
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 2: and an incredible engine. Make them earn it, make them

456
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 2: make them have to at every point scrambling side the side,

457
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 2: possession it with purpose, but not letting them off the hook,

458
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 2: not giving them a chance to really, you know, establish

459
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 2: that lower block keep them moving around and doing so

460
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 2: with the ball.

461
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no question. I think what I'll add to that

462
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 3: is the mentality of the Paraguay and player right because

463
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 3: you look at the their three they're the sort of

464
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,400
Speaker 3: their three neighbors to the south, southeast and west are Uruguay,

465
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 3: Argentina and Brazil. They they have been neighbors to the

466
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 3: three countries that win absolutely everything in South America for

467
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 3: the last one hundred and twenty years. And they're not

468
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 3: afraid and they know they have to fight. And I

469
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 3: know that we can be going into this game thinking

470
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 3: we are the better team against Paraguay. But I can

471
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 3: tell you that not for a second are they gonna

472
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: be sitting in Paraguay thinking that they can't win this

473
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 3: game against the US, because they're thinking, you know what,

474
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 3: they just beat us and they're not gonna beat us again,

475
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 3: and that's gonna be that's gonna be difficult. Now let's

476
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Speaker 3: take the other side of it. And you mentioned, you

477
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 3: know players I can see so and and and al Maron.

478
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: You know, these are good players. These are like world

479
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 3: class good players. And I look, I know al Moron

480
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 3: didn't have a great season this year at Atlanta. But but

481
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,959
Speaker 3: we know what he's like. We know when the lights

482
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: get turned on at the World Cup, that's where the

483
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 3: real players show up, and I think he's one of

484
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: those players. This Paraguay team will be more than a

485
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 3: handful for US, and we're gonna have to do a

486
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 3: lot of work to break them down.

487
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: And particularly those three players.

488
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: They can their best in transition, and that is where

489
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: what part of it is. They're gonna sit deeper and

490
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 2: again be difficult to play against. But that invites the

491
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: US forward, which is how they're gonna have to try

492
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: to break them down, so at any moment giving space

493
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: to Almroner and see So in particular. But Diego Gomez

494
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: is really good at this too. Now with Brighton, those

495
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 2: are three players that can hurt you in transition, so

496
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: that those are the things that the US have to

497
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: look out for.

498
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Speaker 1: That is the opening game, So I'm extremely excited for.

499
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: So we're talking about the opening game, let's talk about

500
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Speaker 1: starting eleven's tab. I'll go first.

501
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: I don't think this is any different than than what

502
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: I've previously written, so I'll run through quick Freese and

503
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 2: goal back three of Miles Robinson, Chris Richards, tim Ree midfield,

504
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 2: four of desks, Adams Tessaman, Anthony Robinson, dual Ten's of

505
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 2: pool sickond Wea and I could probably be talked into

506
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 2: Tim Leek Tilman particularly for this game, or Jill Rayner

507
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,239
Speaker 2: for this game. I think Jill Rayner for sure will

508
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 2: play a part, whether he's able to start or if

509
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 2: he's coming off the bench for a significant chunk. And

510
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 2: then Balgon up top. So that's the eleven that I have.

511
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now we'll go with I think something similar

512
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 3: to what I've had. I'm gonna go with freezing goal

513
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 3: and and in the back with I'm gonna go Freeman

514
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 3: Richards and Miles Robinson. Uh. And I could go with

515
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: McKenzie there too, one of those two the four uh,

516
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 3: in front of them. I'm gonna go Desk on one side,

517
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: Robinson on the other side, if he's healthy, if not

518
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 3: totally fine, going with Arstin he's done a great job.

519
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: In the center. Is gonna be Adamson McKinney. You know

520
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 3: McKinney is at a good level. Again, it could be

521
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 3: testament if we need a little bit more feet again. Uh.

522
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 3: And then Tillman and Polistic right behind Ballaghan. But but

523
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 3: that could also be Waya there, and it could also

524
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 3: be Giorina. There, so a lot of options. I think

525
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: Waya in a game like this where we need to

526
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 3: open up an opponent, it's likely that way I may

527
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: get put out as a as a wide player, more

528
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 3: as a wing back than than than one of the

529
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 3: guys up top.

530
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only the only issue is that like I

531
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: toyed with that as well, but like death is still

532
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: good an unlocking defense and being really creative in type spaces,

533
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 2: So at least for for what same way I might

534
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 2: not have in that that biggest strength of the combo

535
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 2: of Death and way on the right flank or in

536
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 2: the right channel as well would be pretty strong. So

537
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: that's Paraguay. Next opponent is Australia. What do Australia do well?

538
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: They defend, They defend very well. They are they are

539
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: difficult to play against. It's a different brand of defending.

540
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: It's more it's more rigid, I think than Paraguay's. And

541
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 2: they also were going to try to open up in transition.

542
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 2: I don't think that they're as good as Paraguay, particularly

543
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 2: in that regard. But this is a team that's gonna

544
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,479
Speaker 2: defend very well, not be afraid of the moment. They

545
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 2: did give the US a decent game. I don't think

546
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: the US played particularly great against Australia and they're probably thinking, okay,

547
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: with with a better lineup, with a better performance.

548
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: This should be easier. Some players that concern you for

549
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: Australia ness roy Iaran Kunda, a young player for Watford,

550
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: and the goalkeeper Matt Ryan. That again for a for

551
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: a Pot two team, it could be, it could be

552
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: much worse.

553
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: How the US are going to have to exploit this

554
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 2: team possession and pressing, both breaking teams down, but immediately

555
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: counter pressing when the ball is lost. And again, even

556
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: more important than I think against Paraguay is don't give

557
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: this team a moment to rest. Continue to put them

558
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: under pressure with and without the ball, and chances will come,

559
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: and it's about getting it past Matt Run.

560
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: Not a lot to add to this Australia team. I

561
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: really unfortunately, I you know, obviously don't want to be

562
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 3: disrespectful to any team. They're all good teams. And I think,

563
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 3: by the way, I commend Australia for going into the

564
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 3: Asian Federation to get more competition because They could have

565
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: stayed on the Oceania side and played New Zealand every

566
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 3: year just to go to the World Cup, but they've

567
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 3: done a better job to get more competitive. Having said that,

568
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 3: I think Aaron Kunda, as you said, could be dangerous.

569
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: He's a nineteen year old. By the World Cup next summer,

570
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 3: with a little bit more experience, a little bit stronger,

571
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 3: he can be a handful. But man, there's just not

572
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: a whole lot to worry about overall. I mean, we

573
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 3: can come up with the names, but I think it's

574
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 3: they're not at the level we are. This is a

575
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: team we should be and if we play our game,

576
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 3: the only way Australia is gonna beat US is if

577
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 3: they outwork us. And I don't see a US team

578
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 3: being at worked at home in a World Cup.

579
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I could couldn't agree more.

580
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: You talk about qualifying, so part of the reason that

581
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: they wanted to go through Asia because Oceania you only

582
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 2: get through with the playoff, I believe. Orry previously it

583
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: was with the playoff when it was a thirty two

584
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: team World Cup. And like you said, they're they're getting

585
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: much more difficult opponents, so then qualifying through Asia is

586
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 2: no small feat. In the final round of qualification, they

587
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: finished second in their group of six to get direct

588
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 2: qualification World Cup, finishing and buying only Japan. But they

589
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: had only sixteen goals in ten matches, and some of

590
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 2: those matches include two against Bahrain, China, Indonesia, which just

591
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: kind of shows they don't have the same kind of

592
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: edge going forward or the players that can really really

593
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: hurt you when concerned. This is going to be a

594
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: team that's built defensively. But you know, they still finished

595
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: bying Japan and struggled against that team, and I think

596
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: Japan is more of a comparison to the United States

597
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: than Australia is. Again, there are no easy games the

598
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: World Cup, but the US has to be very very

599
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 2: happy with that. And then the third opponent will be

600
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: again the winner of the playoff between Turkey, Slovakia, Romania,

601
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 2: Romania Kosovo. Let's just assume this is Turkey, because we

602
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: can always change this and talk more about it when

603
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: when this uh, when of these playoffs happened in the spring.

604
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: But right now, let's work on the assumption at Turkey.

605
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: My first question here before even diving into it, I

606
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: think Turkey would be the hardest of the three three opponents.

607
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 1: I guess I wasn't a question. That was just a statement,

608
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: wasn't it.

609
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I was. You finished that, and then I

610
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 3: was waiting for the question.

611
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: Ok, new Jersey question, you know, opinion. Yeah, yeah, that's my.

612
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: Now you following your line of questioning, that's you're yeah,

613
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: Turkey will be Turkey would be the most difficult. And

614
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: and by the way, so.

615
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying over Paraguay in Australia.

616
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, creak, Okay, I agree with you. I just

617
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: think that this team is uh has played a lot

618
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: of big games. Obviously, they lost to Spain six or

619
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: seven zero in one of the games, let's not forget

620
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: and European qualifying, but they did well in all the

621
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: rest of the games, including their last game against Spain.

622
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: You know, they have Arta Ghouler, one of the youngest player,

623
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: youngest best players in the world. And and yeah, that

624
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: would be if they come into our group, that would

625
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: be the toughest team to be in our group, and

626
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: we end with them. So it's likely that we're going

627
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: into that third game already knowing that we likely have

628
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: six points. And if you have six points going into

629
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: the third game. Now you're playing to try to avoid

630
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: our being on Argentina side and being more with Belgium

631
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: for your year second, so you're now afforded to take

632
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: a few chances.

633
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: Agreed, But that will be that in that scenario would

634
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: still be very crucial tin to finish first and that second.

635
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: So I think that will still be a really important

636
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: game in s like there's sometimes in the past where

637
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: that third game becomes a dead rubber because everybody knows

638
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: where they're qualifying, or you're you're playing against a team

639
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: that you're either vastly inferior to or superior to, and

640
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: that both teams can pretty safely assume, all right, that's

641
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: gonna be the firs place team, that's gonna be the second.

642
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: This group is wide open that as we've said fifteen

643
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: times already, and if if it comes in where Turkey

644
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: and the United States have both sitting on six points,

645
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: I think both will really go at each other for

646
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: this game to top the group.

647
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 3: Uh.

648
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: Talking more specifically about this team, I think that they

649
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: do a lot of things well. They possess well, but

650
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 2: they do set pieces like hawkdan Chanoglu is one of

651
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: the best set piece takers in the world, and that

652
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 2: is a very important quality at a knockout round at

653
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: a World Cup tournament. There's Channoglu, who's obviously very very good.

654
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: You talked about Art Goulair their best player, Keenan Yieldaz

655
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: maybe could be their best player as well of Juventus

656
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: khan Ujan Erkankoku. This this like young core that's going

657
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: forward again and lu is the veteran, more veteran presence.

658
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 2: But this like young core of Gulair, yield As, Uzan

659
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: Andku those are some players, man Like. This team has

660
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: a lot of talent.

661
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: And Chinoguo has got the shot from mid distance. I

662
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: mean this guy can hit a ball. I mean he

663
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: can hit a ball like very few people in the

664
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 3: world can. No, this is a this is a dangerous

665
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: team with good players. But they have to get through

666
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: those groups, and you know, in Europe it's it's it's

667
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: hard to get out of groups like this. If they do,

668
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: they will be the team to beat in the group.

669
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: For US, I totally agree on that front. The United

670
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: States lost to Turkey in June. That team, it's just

671
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: call it what it is. They were in a very

672
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: bad way at that point. And they're in a much

673
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: better spot right now. That team didn't have Christian Polisk,

674
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: that team was not playing the three four two one

675
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: that has worked so well. They did not seem to

676
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: have an identity. So while Turkey was much better than

677
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: the United States on the day, it was only to one,

678
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: I think Turkey was more than that. Like I thought

679
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: that they were in control, but then friendly has happened

680
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of subs. But I think this

681
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: would be a very difficult opponent. And while they looked

682
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: much better than us, you've gotten better since that that point.

683
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: So I think that that is a very important part

684
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: as we continue to establish first place in the group

685
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: has to be the expectation. There is legitimate pressure on

686
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: this group to succeed, and the fun part about having

687
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: a favorable draw is thinking about the possibilities. But it's

688
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: hard and it's gonna be pressure to actually go on

689
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: and do it. In nineteen ninety things were a little

690
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 2: bit different from the United States program.

691
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: You said earlier in the show, that was the first

692
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: World Cup that we qualified. Forward forty years. You were

693
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: part of that team. You guys got a very hard draw.

694
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: What is the differences?

695
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: And I guess what is you know, going back to

696
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: that moment in that time, what were you kind of

697
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: you know, remembering from those days or what comes in

698
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: mind between the difference between then and now.

699
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, really really interesting actually, because you know, it sort

700
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: of sets me back. I start to think about the

701
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 3: fact that we are thinking right now about we're going

702
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: to be disappointed if our team is not in first

703
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: place in a group in a World Cup. And back

704
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: then we were trying to qualify to World Cup when

705
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: we had not been to a World Cup to forty years.

706
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: So you know, for us to even say that we

707
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: thought we could qualify would be exaggerating because we didn't

708
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: think we could qualify until probably until we had one

709
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: game left. So but but here's here's the neat thing,

710
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: and this is this is what I love, you know,

711
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: the part about how much soccer has come along in

712
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 3: the last thirty five forty years. You know, we were

713
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: playing World Cup qualifiers at Saint Louis Soccer Park, which

714
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: I think was called the Budweiser Park or something at

715
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: the time, and you know it, I think the capacity

716
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: was about six thousand people and I and I remember

717
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: the first time, I remember the first time we pulled

718
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: in with the bus with the US team and we

719
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: saw no more tickets and we sold out Saint Louis

720
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: Soccer Park. That was a big deal. I mean, you know,

721
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 3: there are a lot of big games that I've played

722
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 3: that I forgot. You know. People come up to me

723
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: all the time, hey remember this, remember that? And I

724
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: don't remember a lot, mostly because I'm old, but I

725
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 3: don't remember a lot. But I tell you what I remember.

726
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 3: I remember the day we sold out Saint Louis Soccer Park.

727
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 3: That was a big deal, so to think. And then

728
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 3: we went on. We qualified to the World Cup. It

729
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: was it was practically a miracle that we did. And

730
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: then we got drawn into a group with three European

731
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: teams including the host, so it was it was almost like, yeah,

732
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: thanks for coming, but you're going to be Your tickets

733
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: are already set for you to go home, like before

734
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 3: the first round is over for everybody else. So and

735
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 3: now look at where we are, right forty years later,

736
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 3: we're hosting a World Cup and we're the leaders of

737
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: Group D and we're hoping to win Group D. I mean,

738
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: I couldn't be more excited about how far this has

739
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: come along.

740
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: And but I know you won't say it yourself, is

741
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: your humble guy, but like that the foundation, like where

742
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: we are, those expectations, the foundation was laid by you

743
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: and your teammates in that era. So I'm sure it's

744
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: particularly sweet and prideful and just honestly probably surreal to

745
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: your point to iblike of oh my god, we sold

746
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: six thousand tickets to a World Cup qualifier, or you know,

747
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 2: you tell me what the feeling was around the team

748
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: of echoing like smaller countries that qualified for this World Cup,

749
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: of like, hey, Curras, how much much different the United

750
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: States but still in their their football and development. We

751
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: talked about Haiti, curs Ou, Cape Verde, insert a lot

752
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: of these other kind of small teams that are making

753
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 2: the World Cup for the first time, and that final

754
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: game to qualify for the World Cup was their World

755
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: Cup final.

756
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: And then you're just kind of happy to be there.

757
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: Was that part of the feeling for your group.

758
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: Again, as competitive as I know you are and know

759
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: all of them are, it was so important just to

760
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: get there, right.

761
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we you know, such a different time.

762
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: And by the way, I'm so excited about countries like

763
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: Cape Verdi and Currosaw to Haiti because I know I

764
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 3: know that feeling. I know the feeling they have, and

765
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: it's it's a tremendous feeling. It's you know, of accomplishing

766
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: something that nobody thought you could and and and that's neat.

767
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 3: And that doesn't that doesn't necessarily mean money or anything

768
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: like that. All it means is like you're happiness, a

769
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 3: memory that you have for the rest of your life,

770
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 3: you know, And that's I think that's the most important part.

771
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 3: So I'm I'm very happy for those players. Yeah, and

772
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: for us, I mean to just to show you the

773
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 3: difference of where we were. I mean, John Harks and

774
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 3: I used to drive together, this is before the World Cup,

775
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: maybe six nine months before, to prepare for a game.

776
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: Sometimes John Harks and I used to drive across to

777
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: Brooklyn to play for the Brooklyn Italians for a couple

778
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 3: hundred bucks a game. So so people want to compare

779
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 3: sometimes and they say, oh, this player, how can you

780
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: can play Compare a player from the past a player

781
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: of today. You can't. You can't because we had nothing.

782
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: And from there you're supposed to land the contract that

783
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: like a big European club. How would that even happen.

784
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: We were. The fact that we even got there was

785
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 3: an absolute miracle. And the fact that you know, John

786
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: Harks ended up at Sheffield Wednesday, I ended up at

787
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 3: Figueras and then at Bettie's and Eric Winola, I ended

788
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: at Bochum or wherever else. I mean, these were all

789
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: little miracles. More than anything else I need.

790
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: Did anybody recognize you when you were playing for the

791
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: Brooklyn Italians and like, Hey, what the hell are you

792
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: doing in this league?

793
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course we were a big deal. We were

794
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: a big deal in those leagues.

795
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: Could you imagine showing up for again, I know it's

796
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 2: not exactly Sunday League, but it certainly ain't professional. Could

797
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: you imagine showing up and I'm warming up and like

798
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: is that fucking tabraight?

799
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? What am I to tell you?

800
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: I tell you where? It help and help in the

801
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: sense that we played our home games at Brooklyn College

802
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: and the turnfield. The turn field is so hard, But

803
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: that wasn't the most difficult part. The difficult part was

804
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: that people would hit you with umbrella as is you're

805
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 3: going down the side. So the fact that we were

806
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 3: the fact that we were known a little bit helped

807
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: us to not get hit with an umbrella when you went.

808
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: To, Oh, my goodness, proper football man that is in

809
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: this country.

810
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: I would like to tell you a better story about

811
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: how great it was, but it really was.

812
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: No, that's that is the best story. That is the

813
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: best story right there. Again, I just can't put myself

814
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: in the minds of like some other player that's getting

815
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: a hundred bucks or something.

816
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 3: It's like, oh my god, you can, by the way,

817
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 3: by the way, six months later we were playing against

818
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 3: Bozzio in Rome at the World Cup.

819
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: Unbelievable, Oh my god.

820
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: If there was no better way to tell how things

821
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: have James, Whereas now you know, you look at Pulisic

822
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 2: and McKinnon and everything that these players have, and I've

823
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: grown to again starting with the foundation of what you guys,

824
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: what you guys built. We're talking about Pulisic playing in

825
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 2: the Milan Darby not playing for the Brooklyn Italians getting

826
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: ready for a work up.

827
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: It's just delightful. Yeah, this has been great.

828
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: There's been there's been if just really quickly to talk

829
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: about some of the other teams.

830
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: Here at the World Cup.

831
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: We're obviously focused in the United States We've got to

832
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: look around right now, I've seen some betting odds come out.

833
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: Spain are the betting favorites, followed in order by England, France,

834
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 2: Brazil and Argentina. So those are the five favorites according

835
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: to the book makers. And then in terms of group

836
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: of death, there's a couple options and group of death

837
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: is going to lose a little bit of its luster

838
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: now where you can get be third place and qualify,

839
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: whereas in the past it was only the top two

840
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 2: at the previous World Cups. But for me and you,

841
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: you tell me what the group of death is, it's

842
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: either this one England, Croatia, Ghana and Panama or France, Senegal,

843
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: Norway and then the winner of a playoff that will

844
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: be Bolivia Iraq for sure now. But the France, Senego, Norway.

845
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: Part of that is what makes it the group? What

846
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: could make it the group of death? Which one of

847
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: those do do you believe is the hardest group?

848
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 3: Wow? That's that's that's a good and those groups being

849
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: potentially the most difficult, And I agree with you, group

850
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 3: of death is kind of like a tough turn when

851
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 3: three can qualify, right, I'm gonna have to go with

852
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 3: the France, Senegal, Norway because I think if any of

853
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: those three teams get hot, including and I will include Senegal,

854
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: if any of those three teams get hot, they can

855
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 3: go win the whole thing. And so I would pick

856
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: that group slightly over the England, Croatia, Ghana, Panama because

857
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: that will be a very that's a difficult group, the England, Croatia, Ghana,

858
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: Panama because it's so even. You know, England always disappoints

859
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: a little bit at World Cups, especially in first round,

860
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 3: and because of that they probably drop a couple points

861
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: and I think because of that, this will be a

862
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 3: crazy group.

863
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: I feel as for our other co hosts Mexico or

864
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: with South Africa, South Korea and then a European team

865
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 2: to be determined later. And Canada are with a European

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Speaker 2: team to be determined latter that could be Italy, Qatar

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Speaker 2: and Switzerland. I don't think that that was the worst

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Speaker 2: case scenario for Canada, but it certainly won't be easy.

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Speaker 2: And I was with Jesse Marsh this week ahead of

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Speaker 2: the draw and his what his messages to the locker

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Speaker 2: room to the team is it's not just about getting

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Speaker 2: out of the group, which they that is the ultimate goal.

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Speaker 2: It's we want to top the group because if we

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Speaker 2: topped the group, we get to stay and play in

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Speaker 2: Canada moving forward. So that's that's where things are set

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Speaker 2: for the other co hosts for the World Cup. Again,

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Speaker 2: we will be talking plenty about the World Cup.

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Speaker 1: That is what this show is.

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Speaker 2: We are focused on United national United States national team.

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Speaker 2: Everything is built towards the World Cup. I'm sure we'll

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Speaker 2: talk a little bit of Mexico in Canada here and

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Speaker 2: there along the way. But tap, this was fun. I'm

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Speaker 2: glad that we did this much more efficiently than the

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Speaker 2: World Cup draw itself. I'm sorry I didn't bring in

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Speaker 2: a word for you. I probably should have brought something,

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Speaker 2: made up, something for us, but I came empty, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I think I think we needed an award. I think

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Speaker 3: an award to the tallest guy would have fit today.

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Speaker 1: For me.

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Speaker 3: It would have been perfect to go with the celebration.

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Speaker 2: I think that would not have been the most absurd

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Speaker 2: thing that came from the day. Listen, Thank you, everybody,

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Speaker 2: Thank you tab first, and foremost, thank you to iHeart

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Speaker 2: everybody listening. Please rate, review, and subscribe. Inside American soccer.

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