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Speaker 1: And we welcome you into another week and another week

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Speaker 1: closer to the two thousand, twenty NFL Draft. This is

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Speaker 1: the best podcast available. I'm Gibbs, joined by Gribbs and

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Speaker 1: the Z that stands for Zigura. Continuing on with our

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Speaker 1: player rankings as we count you down to the draft,

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Speaker 1: a virtual draft. We will talk more about the TV lineup,

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Speaker 1: what's going to be happening coming up later on in

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Speaker 1: the best podcast available. But more importantly, it's QB rankings,

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Speaker 1: safety rankings, and corner rankings this week on the docket

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Speaker 1: for us, and we'll kick things off with our quarterback

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Speaker 1: rankings and guys, uh, for the most part, pretty pretty

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Speaker 1: much the same thing. We've got the same five give

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Speaker 1: Jacob Easton from Washington A fascinating product. Guys, here's a

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Speaker 1: guy that at the beginning of the year, I know

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Speaker 1: Bo Bishop was a big fan prior to college football

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Speaker 1: season beginning saying this guy might be the best pro

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Speaker 1: and has the mother of all college football seasons. You

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Speaker 1: know what, you get with TWA will get to those guys.

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Speaker 1: But Easton, you're buying or selling Gribble Eastern closer to

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Speaker 1: this draft, is the third best quarterback or is he

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Speaker 1: and Jake From and I think that From didn't have

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Speaker 1: I think he's a really good quarterback. And I would

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Speaker 1: right away impressive. Looks like your prototypical pro quarterback. And

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Speaker 1: sets and traits that Easton has that dates all the

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what Easton has. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: That's great. That's a great thing to not have to

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Speaker 1: But Easton is when you say, let me show me

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Speaker 1: a picture of a prototypical NFL quarterback Jacobies and that's

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Speaker 1: a picture you're gonna see, all right. Going back to

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Speaker 1: And you wonder about what happened in eighteen when only

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Speaker 1: you might as well go get Dalt. I mean that's

428
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Speaker 1: uh so that I'm going on upside for the Patriots,

429
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Speaker 1: and I would go Jordan Love if I was them,

430
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 1: I would get Dalton and draft Jordan Love. And you

431
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 1: have Jordan Love. Let them learn and with any Dalton

432
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 1: you can run everything you've been running with. Brady is

433
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 1: not quite as good, but he's still gonna be good.

434
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Speaker 1: And I still think they could go to the playoffs

435
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 1: fair enough. Do you think that the teams because Dalton

436
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 1: has to be traded? Correct? Correct? I think teams are

437
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 1: waiting until the Bengals just officially have no leverage and

438
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 1: have Joe Burrow on their team. And probably, I mean,

439
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: is that the reason why we're waiting here? Supposedly there's

440
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: been a lot of discussions, but yeah, I think the

441
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 1: price has been prohibitive at this point. Yeah, all right,

442
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 1: we move on. Quarterback talk done for now. Back on.

443
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Speaker 1: We go to the defensive side of the ball. We're

444
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Speaker 1: talking safeties. We're talking corners. Safeties are top five. Will

445
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 1: go from there. Uh, we have a tie for fifth place.

446
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm including everybody this week. I'm overachieving like Nathan's a girl,

447
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 1: he's right way now I'm overachieving. Uh. And we'll start

448
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 1: with Ashton Davis and Jeremy Chin, so Southern Illinois. Jeremy Chin,

449
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: who's really gaining gaining a little bit of traction here

450
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: in the last week or two, and then five? What

451
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 1: Chin's in a type for fifth? Is that what you said?

452
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: Tie for five? How's that possible? You add up the points?

453
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: I realized the technology I'm asking without with blindly looking,

454
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty sure he was. He was third

455
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: or fourth on mine. May not have him on the list.

456
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 1: You actually had him at four four that somebody not

457
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 1: have him on the list. Ruble didn't have him on

458
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 1: the list. I had him at number five. BP your

459
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: BP A favorite, Your your BP A regular. Dane brugler

460
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: As was the number two safety in this class and

461
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: actually has kind of pegged him as being that's his

462
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 1: ideal scenario for the Browns at number one also either

463
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: and I didn't put Isaiah Simmons on my list of

464
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: safeties either. That chating? How that cheating? I don't believe that.

465
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 1: I think umber at that comment to be for talk

466
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: on podcast, you can talk about him, because that's how

467
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 1: good he is, that's how amazing is and that's why

468
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: we all need to hope and oh please, please please

469
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: please let him be there at number ten and then

470
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: we can get him and we can make some moves

471
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: around because after talking to Joe Thomas on CBD on Monday,

472
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 1: I'm fully convinced and he's that Bill Callahan can have

473
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: a bigger influence on a rookie than any coach on

474
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Speaker 1: our team. I'm saying as the Cleveland looks like a

475
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: pretty good prospect, Austin Jackson looks like a pretty good prospect,

476
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: and they can be developed and molded by under the

477
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: Tutelageibill Callan. There aren't any other Isaiah Simmons is out there. Nope,

478
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: not another one. Just one Isaiah Sis. That's why I

479
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: s number one linebacker, number one at safety if you

480
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 1: want to say number one, just cool guy, stud boom.

481
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: I put them on that list two, number one. We

482
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Speaker 1: could have three pots for Isaiah Simmons. So I think

483
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Speaker 1: for the purpose of this podcast, we're actually going to

484
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: move Isaiah Simmons off of the safety position and chins

485
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: still tied for fifth. Outrage. Yeah, I actually I moved

486
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Speaker 1: him out of the top out of the rankings. We'll

487
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: debate that. That's another day to debate. Relax, relax, But

488
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: that being said, Chin was still number five along with

489
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Speaker 1: Ashton Davis. Chin Uh Southern Illinois. As I mentioned, making

490
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Speaker 1: a little waves, Gribbs, why did you like Davis? You

491
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: had David's fourth on your list? Yeah, I mean he's

492
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: your your prootypical free safety with with crazy athleticism, and

493
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: I think that's what this team needs. I think you

494
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: added Uh sindeo and and Joseph the two more thumper

495
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: style safeties, give me the guy that they can play

496
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Speaker 1: center field, and I think Davis is one of the

497
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: best options there. It's a girl. Why did you go

498
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: with Chin? Listen, I did I have Ashton Davis on

499
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: my list as well, number five. I like Aston Davis

500
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 1: a lot. Ashton Davis, former track star, pure center fielder

501
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: type of a free safety, would be a great fit

502
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: with what we do. I think he's a great story,

503
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: Uh in terms of how he got to be there

504
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: and play at cal um joined the track team and

505
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: the speed is what kind of propelled him there. He

506
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: was a no star recruit, so he had walk on

507
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: opportunities for track and ends up getting parlaying this into

508
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: being an excellent safety four CAL second team All Packed

509
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: twelve last year. I like him, like I said, natural

510
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: center center fielder, that what he is. He's not tackling,

511
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: needs some work, but in terms of being a guy

512
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: who knows how to get his hands on the ball,

513
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: find the football, and have ball skills over the last

514
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: two years, six interceptions, fifteen passes defense, I like him

515
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Speaker 1: a lot. I think that he is really really good.

516
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: I think he is gonna be very, very solid, a

517
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: single high guy can come down in the slot and

518
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: cover as well. I like Ashton Davis. I like Jeremy Chin.

519
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: I think if we do to go tackle first, it

520
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: lines up really well for the Browns at forty one

521
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: because the names that we're all gonna talk about, with

522
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: the exception of maybe Xavier McKinney, are likely to be

523
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: on the board or coming off the board at that point.

524
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: And Chin's another one who is big. He can be,

525
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: He's can hit, he can play near the line of scrimmage.

526
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: But he was a cornerback by trade. That's where he

527
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: kind of started off. He was a corner does great

528
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: in the slot, can cover tight ends, but physical the

529
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. Can had play strong safety or free safety.

530
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: The question is you just don't know about the competition

531
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: he faced at that level, and he still needs to

532
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: kind of refine his game. He guesses a lot, plays

533
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 1: on instinct a lot, and while he can have success

534
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: with that at certain levels in the pros, maybe not

535
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: as easy. But over the last three seasons at three

536
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: picks every single year that he was in college, which

537
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: I think is pretty darn good. Over the last three seasons,

538
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: twenty six past breakups, ten picks. He's got ball skills. Again,

539
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: different level, but still pretty good player. And and you

540
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: know Dame Brugler Mary high and him hasn't is the

541
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: number two safety in this class, all right. Kyle Dooger

542
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: a kid that's gaining a lot of tractions, small school,

543
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: working his way up, which I think is pretty hard

544
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 1: to do, all things considered, in the in the current

545
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: environment that we're living in of not being able to

546
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: have pro days and not being able to go on visits,

547
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 1: this kid's making a name for himself. He's done a

548
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: pretty nice job. I don't know a ton ab on him,

549
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: but I do like what I see and I think

550
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: he's a guy that could be there's a girl like

551
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: you said on day number two. Yes, this is a

552
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: guy again played single high safety in their scheme there

553
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: h and also would cover guys in the slot. So

554
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: he's got coverage skills nineteen pass breakups, five picks the

555
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: last two years. A big hitter as well. Uh, he

556
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: can play for deep. He can play as well near

557
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. Um. But I mean you talk

558
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: about size protce, he's got good safety size six to seventeen. Uh,

559
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: he can run. I think this is a guy who

560
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: could be you know, some people talk about him as

561
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: kind of a safety linebacker hybrid um kind of when

562
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: it can be that dime backer for you as well

563
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: as playing safety. So physical guy. I think he would

564
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: be somebody you're looking at if the Browns a either

565
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: think Karl Joseph can become a long term free safety

566
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: because I think he's more right now, more of strong

567
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: safety ish um. But again, another very very good prospect.

568
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: And as I said, the safety group is is loaded,

569
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: and when we get to the guy's above him on

570
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: this list, I think it could be a bonanza for

571
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: the Browns. Theret Gribbs if you take a look at

572
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: the top three and the top three we have overall,

573
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: we have in field three Delpit too, McKinney number one.

574
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: Is there a big difference between any of those three?

575
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like you look and two of

576
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: those could be gone in the first round. Only one

577
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: of them might be gone out of the top five.

578
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: Going back to what Ziagura had to have to say,

579
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: there're could be four of those guys going in today. Two. Yeah,

580
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: And I'm of the opinion sign me up for Grant Delpitt,

581
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: who to me has had a similar uh entrance into

582
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: the draft as Greedy Williams did last year. Because Grant

583
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: Delpitt's best season was not two thousand nineteen, it was

584
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen. Uh. He had some issues on the field,

585
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: just in terms of tackling this past season, maybe some

586
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: injuries that hindered him a little bit, but his reputation

587
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: alone still won him the Thorpe Award. There was some

588
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: angry people in college football who covered the game when

589
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: he got that award because it might have been on reputation,

590
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: But that means his reputation was really good. And I

591
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: think he is a first round talent that you can

592
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: get at forty one. I am a no has tation,

593
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: go get Grant help. But if he's there for you,

594
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: I could not agree anymore with everything that he just said.

595
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: Grant Delpit, if he came out after that last season,

596
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: would have been a top ten pick. And I think

597
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: the Browns have an opportunity to steal a guy who

598
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: was hindered by injury. But man, when you watch him like,

599
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: you don't get number seven at l s U unless

600
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: they think you are an absolute baller, and he had

601
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: that comparisons from the head coach to Troy Paulamalu. He's

602
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: a free safety who can hit, he can do it all.

603
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: He can do it all. I think he's a stud

604
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: and I think Grant Delpitt is absolutely It would be

605
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: like history repeating itself. You get a guy a year

606
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: after their best season that you're banking on, what the

607
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: traits that they've shown and what you see on film.

608
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: I think Grant delpa is a special player. I feel

609
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: to me, Grant delpot is a guy that comes in

610
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: here and changes our defense as a day one starter

611
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: and will be a legend in Cleveland for years to come.

612
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: I love Grant Delpin and I hope that. I hope

613
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: that's who we end up getting at forty one. When

614
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: you take a look at this safety group in our

615
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: top five, Xavier McKinney from Alabama's one, Grant Delpa from

616
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: l s U two, Antoine Winfield Junior from Minnesota's three,

617
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: Kyle Douger uh is four, and then you've got Chin

618
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 1: and you have Ashton Davis. Is this the third best

619
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: position in this year's draft besides tackle, well, fourth best

620
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: when you when you have the quarterbacks in quarterback, tackle, wide, receiver,

621
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: Is this the best position available right now after those three?

622
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe, but it's I think we're more

623
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: thinking that because the Browns need like three of them.

624
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: I think that's why we're like, yeah, we're thinking that.

625
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: The Browns just signed two of them. You entered the

626
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: off season with two safeties on your roster, you added

627
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: two veterans to the team on one year deals. I

628
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: think we we just know that, and it kind of

629
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: just lines up where all of these guys are going

630
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: to be available in the forty range, but they might

631
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: not be available past So it's like this is a

632
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: great year for second round safeties. That's it. I agree

633
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: this doesn't look especially if you take Isaiah Simmons out

634
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: of the safety discussion. If you kept him in it,

635
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: then it has a top ten pick. But it's possible

636
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: Xavier McKinney doesn't go in the top twenty. Now it's

637
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: possible that he does go on the top twenty, but

638
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: it doesn't have There aren't the headliners, the superstars. There's

639
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: no Jamal Adams in this class right unless, of course

640
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: we count Isaiah Simmons. But it's for where we want

641
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: a safety to be and a good prospect to be,

642
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: it lines up perfectly. I don't know how much the

643
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: depth is after these guys or you know, before him,

644
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: there's nobody really elite, but for what we want, which

645
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: is the Cleveland Browns at forty one, I think in

646
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: my next mock, my next vp A, Michael certainly haven't

647
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: taken of safety there. Now with the signing of Bador

648
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 1: and Claiborne, it lines up exactly what you would want

649
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: it to line up for for the brown So through

650
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: our Browns glasses, I think those lenses tell us, yeah,

651
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: this is a perfect safety class because that we have

652
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,239
Speaker 1: a variety of options that should be available to us

653
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: at forty one. But overall, I don't think anybody's saying,

654
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: oh man, there's this is gonna be a transformative class.

655
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: Now if Simmons ends up counting, I think it's McKinney

656
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: is gonna be a long term good starter. I think

657
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: Chin is gonna be a long term good starting. I

658
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: think Grant Delpott has an opportunity a long term pro

659
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: bowler and Winfield junior. While undersized, you can't argue with

660
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: the production. You can't argue with the pedigree. There's a

661
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 1: chance that you have a lot of guys that are

662
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: that are pretty good players in the league for for

663
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: quite a while. But again, it's not super elite and

664
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: it's not super deep. It just happens the lineup where

665
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: we want to pick a safety. Gribbs, Xavier McKinney could

666
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: go anywhere from fifteen to thirty two. I feel like,

667
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen him mocked late twenties, mid twenties.

668
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: What's the best part of his game? Uh, you know,

669
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: I'll be simple and to the point. He's an Alabama

670
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: safety and these guys tend to work out, and I

671
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: just think it's the system you you can go back.

672
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: I mean You've had Alabama safeties that have been underdrafted,

673
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: and Eddie Jackson, I mean, he was a fourth round

674
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: pick and he turns out to be great. Ha ha ha.

675
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: Clinton Dix has been great Landon Collins. It's just it

676
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: is the system in Alabama. They identify the best in

677
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: the country to go get him. They play defense, They

678
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: play defense for Nick Saban for a few years. These

679
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: are the guys I trust. And McKinney's got an edge

680
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: to him. I just I just like everything about his game,

681
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: and I just I don't know if I feel good

682
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: about getting him at like fifteen. I don't know if

683
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: i'd feel good about getting him at twenty. But he

684
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: should be a first round player and he's probably chances

685
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: are he's gonna be the only first round pick out

686
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: of this crew. And as long as he doesn't go

687
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: to a team in the a f C North, I

688
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: really don't care where he goes. That's all. That's really

689
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: what it boils down to. I don't need that girl.

690
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons, would you play him at linebacker or safety?

691
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: I think you'd probably play him in both, right, you know,

692
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: in a way, that's not what the NFL game is anymore.

693
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: So in certain packages and a base defense, I would

694
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: play him at safety and have him as my strong safety.

695
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: You can play him as a free safety at times,

696
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: but in in sub packages you can use him as

697
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: an extra cover linebacker because of his abilities. So he's

698
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: he reminds me a lot of Derwin James. So I

699
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: thought was criminally under drafted that year. Derwin James has

700
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: come in and been when healthy, awesome in the NFL,

701
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: and I think isaiahim is gonna be awesome in the NFL.

702
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 1: And this The Chargers do some of that with him too.

703
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: They play him in a traditional safety, sometimes he plays three,

704
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: sometimes he plays strong near the line, and then sometimes

705
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: they play him in a linebacker role where he can

706
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: be very effective and just use his athleticism to take over.

707
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: So the answer is, Isaiah Simmons on my team is

708
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: gonna play on the snaps. You will line up in

709
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: multitude of positions. And I think he is going to

710
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: be an absolute star in the NFL. I think he's

711
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: outside of Chase Young, the best player in this draft period.

712
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: I think you can make that argument, no question about it. All. Right,

713
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: Corner is real quick here as we get through things, Uh,

714
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: we had a tie for fourth, so I just included

715
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 1: him in the top five. Christian Fulton A. J. Tarrell

716
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: from Clemson UH at number three, Travon Diggs from Alabama, UM,

717
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: we've seen him mocked a few different places. At number two,

718
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: a guy that I think we've all moved up our

719
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: boards here recently. Another guy that's making noise and is

720
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: really moving up. And even saw an article today where

721
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: there was some an argument to be made that he

722
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: might be better than Okuda. And that's C. J. Henderson

723
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: out of Florida. And then you have Jeff Okuda from

724
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State as the number one corner on our top

725
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: five at that position, Gribbs, a thought or two from

726
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: you on the top five on your top five. Yeah,

727
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: and you know, we we talked about this before taping.

728
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: It's just I think they're all pretty solid, and they're

729
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: all clustered together. Is is with very small and little

730
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 1: things here and there that that make them uh ranked

731
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: higher lower than each other in the spots. At the

732
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: end of the day, is the Browns aren't gonna be

733
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: taking any of these guys in the first round outside

734
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: of maybe Okuda. And when they're on the clock in

735
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: the second round. I don't think of these guys are

736
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 1: gonna be there. So it's it's it's it's a tough

737
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: thing to discuss just because these are all kind of

738
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: going to be in that maybe thirteen two thirty four range,

739
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: I would say, for all these corners. So it's it's, it's,

740
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: it's it's a tough discussion to bring back to the Browns.

741
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: The only way to discuss this, though, is if Jeff

742
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: Acuda somehow on the clock at number ten, what did

743
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: the Browns do the girl? And that's where I think

744
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: it would get interesting. And if jeffe who it is

745
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: on the on the clock at ten, there's probably a

746
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,959
Speaker 1: good chance that maybe three tackles have gone and maybe

747
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: the one that's left isn't somebody the Browns like, So,

748
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: do they draft a Kuda and say we're just gonna

749
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: load up there? Do they feel the trade offer at

750
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: that point? Uh and find a way to move down

751
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: pick up a second round or perhaps maybe look, if

752
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: there is one position that you said to me that

753
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: I had to bet on of the big positions that

754
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: the Browns will not even draft anybody this year, cornerback

755
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: would be the first one that comes to my mind

756
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: because you maybe later on, but going into the season

757
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: as it stands right now, you've got Denzel and Greedy

758
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: on the outside. You've got Kevin Johnson, now he's unapproven

759
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: deal as a slot corner and maybe you want to

760
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: find a slot corner of the future. And then you

761
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: have Terence Mitchell as your fourth corner, who is a

762
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: stud and whenever he plays, makes plays, that's a that's

763
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: a darn good top four. And then behind the enemy

764
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: have Robert Jackson, who I thought showed flashes last year.

765
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: You've got Tavy or Thomas who can play inside or outside,

766
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: but it's primarily a special teams guy. Donnie Lewis Jr.

767
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: Was drafted a year ago to be the slack corner

768
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: of the future. That was the seventh round, picking and

769
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: different regimes. So is there loyalty there? I don't know,

770
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: but I would be I I don't even know if

771
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: there's a stunt? Is enough of strong enough of a word.

772
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: If the Browns took a corner in either of the first, second,

773
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: third round, maybe even into the fourth and the fourth,

774
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 1: maybe I could see him, But first, second or third,

775
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: no way. And I don't I really think that there

776
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: are other positions they're gonna address, and corner would be

777
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: pretty far down the list. So you're saying, if a

778
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: Coud is there, you're not taking him. I'm saying, if

779
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: I personally am there at number ten, I'm gonna see

780
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: what offers I can get and see what else I'm

781
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: what I'm dealing with. Is it easy to run up there? Yeah? Now,

782
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: somebody who hasn't played outside or hasn't played inside, I'm sorry,

783
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to play inside. And I'm not worried

784
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: about the investment in Kevin Johnson, who I think is

785
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: gonna have a nice season for us, but he's on

786
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: a one year deal. So you'd be able to say, Okay,

787
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: I have a first, second, or a third year player

788
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: all studs. But so far Denzel hasn't gone inside. Greedy's

789
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: not gonna go inside. So you would need to feel

790
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: pretty comfortable that either Denzel not that he can't do it,

791
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: but that he would be open to do it, or

792
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: that a Kuda as a rookie coming in would be

793
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: going inside, because that that would be the calculus. But

794
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: you also think that for a premier corner like that,

795
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: you might be able to get a better haul than

796
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: you would have otherwise it picked ten, and then you

797
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: can go get an Austin Jackson, Ezra Cleveland, maybe pick

798
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: up another second and add another talented player to this team. See.

799
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: I think if if he if he's on the clock,

800
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: if he's if he's available, and you're not getting any

801
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,479
Speaker 1: great offers, I have no problem taking him because because

802
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: you you look at the cornerback pretty room pretty optimistically,

803
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: I think it's a good group for the Browns that've

804
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: got some good options. But part of me worries that

805
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: most of that room has had a tough time staying

806
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: on the field, and that's the that's I think you could, uh,

807
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: you could add depth. And I think Akuda is just

808
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: so good that I think he would just help help

809
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: you so much that I feel I wouldn't say I

810
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: feel the same way about him as I would Isaiah

811
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: Simmons at potentially at number ten, But I feel better

812
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: about Okuda than I would like a Derrek Brown or

813
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: someone like that. Yeah. Yeah, because it's again, it would

814
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: be using a valuable draft asset at a position that

815
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: is premier and expensive, and you would be able to

816
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: have three guys on rookie deals that are all pretty

817
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: well regarded, and frankly, you know what, that's on the players,

818
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: and that's on the coaches to make sure somebody can

819
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: play inside. And one of these they're talented enough to

820
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: do it, so let's do it. But you go back

821
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: and you think of Joe Woods and the first thing

822
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: that popped into my head when you said that. You

823
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: think about Joe Woods when he was in Denver as

824
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. Their three corners were a key to

825
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: leave Chris Harris and Bradley Roby pretty darn elite. And

826
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: and no coincidence, they had a pretty darn elite defense

827
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: because they had corners who could cover in man and

828
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: then they had pass rushers to Marcus Ware and Von

829
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: Miller could get to the quarterback. And you think about

830
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: the Browns. If you could really put a lockdown at

831
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: that cornerback position and then have Vernon and Clayborne and

832
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: Miles obviously in Sheldon and Larry going in waves, staying fresh,

833
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: getting after the quarterback, we'd be tough to score on.

834
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: And I know our offense is going to score points

835
00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: because this offensive system produces points. Yeah, I still think

836
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: you have to look at corner in this draft, whether

837
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: it's a ten if A codas there or not, simply

838
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: because the two d two corners that you had both

839
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: missed time last year and there is an injury concerned

840
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: with both of those guys as we have seen already

841
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: in their early, early on careers. All right, a couple

842
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: of news and notes will get out of here with

843
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: that um. This coming down from Charles Robinson from Yahoo Sports.

844
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: NFL and player unions have come to an agreement on

845
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: the terms of a virtual offseason. Qualified teams can now

846
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: begin distributing their off season program materials to players. Players

847
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: can begin virtual workouts to earn their workout bonuses. The

848
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: NFL's offseason will remain virtual as long as all fifty

849
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: states are under some kind of lockdown. That is huge.

850
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: This means NFL franchises cannot resume in housework O T

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Speaker 1: A S or any form of camps until all fifty

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Speaker 1: states have removed lockdown restrictions. This includes states obviously without

853
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: NFL teams. NFL clubs and players will come to their

854
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: own agreement in terms of what the benchmarks are to

855
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: earn offseason bonuses. UH. Some pretty interesting things coming out

856
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: here late about the NFL and Players Union and those

857
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: agreements until all fifty states, and we know what California

858
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: stance has been. I mean, they're they're people have said

859
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Speaker 1: nothing until Thanksgiving. I think who knows, none of us

860
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: know right now exactly what the timetable is. But the

861
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: fact that they're saying all fifty states that that is, uh,

862
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: that's some big things and some big news coming out

863
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: of the NFL grips. Yeah, and it's I'm more curious

864
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: on how they define like lockdown measures because you know,

865
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: before Ohio had to stay at home measure, they were

866
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: still recommending not to go out and do unnecessary trips

867
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Speaker 1: and and things like that. So I'll be in chain

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00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: see how that's defined and the concerns. I think Maryland

869
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: right maybe it has the longest doubt deadline on their

870
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: stay at home. I think they're into June with their deadlines.

871
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful for training camp

872
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: because I think that it's I understand the the NFL

873
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: did this with the draft of the equal playing field,

874
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: and I understand why they're doing it with the offseason

875
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: workout program, and imagine that's gonna apply to training camp too.

876
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: So let's just all stay. Let's all stay at home

877
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: as much as we can to make sure that that

878
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: we're all good to go for the for the late

879
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: summer and into the fall. Yeah. I think when you

880
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: looked at that, the thing you popped in my mind

881
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: was the first chance that we have this training camp

882
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: and you're not going to get anything prior to training camp.

883
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't see that at this time. UM.

884
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: And so you hope that you know, the world can

885
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: keep progressing in America, can keep progressing like it has.

886
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,479
Speaker 1: I mean they think that, you know, we've gotten ahead

887
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: of this, we flattened the curve, that maybe the peak

888
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: has happened already, and so you could envision a late

889
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: July early August being feasible to return to some sense

890
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: of normalcy. So that's what you have to hope for their. UM.

891
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: You know, I know our team, because we were supposed

892
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: to report early with the head coach, you know, our

893
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: players have been able to get their iPads. Uh. And

894
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: I talked to Adrian Clayborne and he said, you know what,

895
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: it's actually been pretty cool. They've really put together a

896
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: wealth thought out presentation where you feel like you're in

897
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: the meeting rooms and enters, getting to understand, you know,

898
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: what you need to understand going forward that you're allowed

899
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 1: to at this point anyway. And I think it's gonna be. Look,

900
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: it is a level playing field. Everybody's going to deal

901
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: with it. And I tell you, I really think from

902
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: talking to some people around the league that with the

903
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: people we have running our organization and the age group

904
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: of the people we have running our organization right now,

905
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: we're at a little bit of a competitive advantage in

906
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: this period relative to some other organizations. Yeah, it's it, Listen,

907
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: It's not the ideal start for a new coach, new

908
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: general manager. But like you said, Nathan, I've We've talked

909
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: with Andrew Berry and and Kevin Stepanski. They they're not

910
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: making excuses, and they've they've kind of embraced this challenge

911
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: and I think that that they've gotten out the right

912
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 1: message and I think it will be This is Puts again.

913
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 1: We always I feel like in the NFL, we always

914
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: talk so much about coaching general managers and that those

915
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: are the people who get the most criticism. A lot

916
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: of this is gonna be on the players. I mean,

917
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to take it on their own time.

918
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: I mean, this is like when you get uh summer

919
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: reading going in high school. You know you gotta you

920
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: gotta get this done throughout the summer instead of wait

921
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: until last minute to cram that, you know, count of

922
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: Monte Cristo a day before you get get high school started.

923
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: So you know, I think that that that's gonna be

924
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: on the players to manage their time wisely. Because even

925
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: though the offenses and workout program is one voluntary uh

926
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: and two is not as intensive as training camp, uh,

927
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: they're still pretty long days. So it's just about time

928
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: management and a lot of young guys with a lot

929
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: of free time are gonna have to to buckle down

930
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: and and and really lock into what's gonna be a

931
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: new offense and new defense. And this is something that

932
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: opening day conditioning test, my friend, I think you're gonna

933
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: see a lot of people actually be in shaping. And

934
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: Adrian Clayborne actually said, he goes, look, you're gonna find

935
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: out who took this seriously and who didn't right away.

936
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: And you know, all you you have time every day

937
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: to make sure you're doing something to get in shape,

938
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: so you gotta you better be in shape. The pros

939
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: know that they need to be in shape. Another thing

940
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: that I think is, you know, you look back at it,

941
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: and we talked about the various reasons for the one

942
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 1: year deals, and I think some of it had to

943
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: do obviously with you know, when we're gonna have to

944
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: start paying out large contract especially on the defensive side.

945
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: But maybe not a bad strategy in this environment to

946
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: have all these one year deals because you have a

947
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 1: lot of guys who are gonna have to be self

948
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: motivated because they want to this is their proven deals.

949
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: You know. Karl Joseph said, Look, I signed a one

950
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: year proven deal. I need to be able to prove it.

951
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: And so I think you're gonna have a lot of

952
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: natural motivation from these guys in our organization that did

953
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: sign one year deals because this is their opportunity to

954
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: excel and hopefully get paid. I'm just curious what these

955
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: workouts are gonna because these guys can't get into public gyms.

956
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: They've got to be creative. And I think that the

957
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: Browns are able to work with them as much as

958
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: they can to kind of advise what they're able to do.

959
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: But the last thing we want these guys doing is

960
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: unnecessarily going into crowded areas and and working out in

961
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: places they should. I mean they're gonna get They're gonna

962
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: be doing workouts to prepare for the season that they

963
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: probably will never do again for the rest of their lives.

964
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Speaker 1: It will be interesting to watch. I'm sure there'll be

965
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: plenty of postings for it, and I can't help but

966
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: notice is that have you snuck a banana? And in

967
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: that uh that window frame behind you, there's one in

968
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Speaker 1: the background every broadcast, My friends, it's pretty pumped. That's

969
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: a good that's a good one. I like that one. Uh.

970
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Speaker 1: That's gonna wrap up this edition of the best podcast available.

971
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Speaker 1: We've got some other things we'll get to on Thursday's

972
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Speaker 1: edition to the BP A Gain Brugler will join us again.

973
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: He's got a seven round mock out, so we'll talk

974
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 1: to him about that and we'll get your set one

975
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Speaker 1: week out the next time we come to you from

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Speaker 1: the NFL draft, Za Gara, thank you for your time.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it as always my pleasure. Appreciate your time.

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