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Speaker 1: Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts now. There

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Speaker 1: are quotes from President Trump via Axios a conversation that

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Speaker 1: he had, and I grabbed one of those quotes. It's

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Speaker 1: not audio, but President Trump told Axios anytime I want

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Speaker 1: the war to end, it will end. And Buck, I

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Speaker 1: think that is likely true. And here is to me

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Speaker 1: still the big question that we have been asking since

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Speaker 1: this all started. Who is the acceptable leader for Iran

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Speaker 1: that would allow this situation in Iran to end in

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Speaker 1: some way with the understanding that we would now at

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Speaker 1: least the Iranians would know that in any point in time,

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Speaker 1: we could decapitate their leader. If this son of Kamene

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Speaker 1: is still alive, mok Taba or however you pronounce his name.

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Speaker 2: If.

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Speaker 1: You gonna say it like m taba, like much tabah,

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Speaker 1: if he's still alive like the way you say it.

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Speaker 1: I'm not an accent guy. I can't do accents. I

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Speaker 1: can do do my voice, and that's pretty much it.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, if he's still alive, which I think is

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Speaker 1: very much in question because they're dancing around with cardboard

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Speaker 1: representation of their new leader. Here is what I would say,

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Speaker 1: if he is still alive and if he is able

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Speaker 1: His dad, his son, his wife, and his mom were

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Speaker 1: Let me just put this to you, Buck, and to

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Speaker 1: all of you out there, would you be very fond

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Speaker 1: if a country killed your dad, your mom, your wife,

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Speaker 1: and your son. I would submit to you that if

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Speaker 1: he is still alive, it is a non starter that

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Speaker 1: because I would not blame him. I would want America

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Speaker 1: to die on a level that, frankly, or any other

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Speaker 1: think this could actually be worse because it's you know,

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Speaker 1: my deal there. You've done a lot of this study.

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Speaker 1: Terrorists who are wounded and don't die often end up

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Speaker 1: being the most virulent of terrorists in their future years.

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Speaker 1: So I would start with this, him being in charge

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Speaker 1: is unacceptable, and so I don't know if we have

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Speaker 2: I think that we have seen the total military intelligence

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Speaker 2: particularly to make war of any kind outside of its

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Speaker 2: we have our Department of War and Secretary Hegseeth and

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Speaker 2: not the goal. Okay, you're taking out all the leadership

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Speaker 1: Bene justified furious like, leave aside the politics again. Everybody

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Speaker 2: I don't see what the alternative is.

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Speaker 1: There also is the question, and I think this matters too,

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Speaker 1: And I believe we have a cut of this of

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Speaker 2: And there's audio of that.

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Speaker 2: We've seen this in authoritarian Muslim Mid East states for

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Speaker 2: as long as it's serving the interests of the state.

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Speaker 2: Play those individuals. You have to always remember this though

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Speaker 2: I know we've said there's an amnesty for the IRGC, Okay, Well,

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Speaker 2: that means that we're saying, put down your arms and

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Speaker 2: if someone kills you. You know, your wife, your your parents,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna if you're now part of the new regime,

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Speaker 2: you're going to say, hey, when you guys killed those

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the Kadafi effect is you better stay in

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Speaker 2: zero sum for the people emy Iran who have been

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Speaker 2: even worse than that. So my point, Clay is they'll

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Speaker 2: there is something that they've got planned. No, we're just

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Speaker 1: And also again the question becomes, who is even leading Iran,

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Speaker 1: And I think this is the question the new Supreme leader,

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Speaker 1: which doesn't suggest that he's actually that help healthy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's like the opposite of a proof of life when

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Speaker 2: No, No, that doesn't look.

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Speaker 1: A lot of You also were laughing in the comments.

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Speaker 1: You were saying, Hey, maybe we shouldn't criticize Iran that

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Speaker 1: effectively had a cardboard cutout president for four years, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very fairpoint.

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Speaker 1: But here's the Washington Post Jason Rezihan saying what I

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Speaker 4: I wasn't super surprised by his election.

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of talk that he might succeed

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Speaker 3: been around for more than a decade. I also wonder

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Speaker 3: The President of Iran, mass Kauson said today that neither

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Speaker 3: he nor anyone else in his government had spoken with

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Speaker 3: So there's still so much confusion around this.

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Speaker 1: And Buckett could be again an opportunity to make it

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Speaker 1: whether he's alive or not. But when you name a

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Speaker 1: that definitely raises questions about what his health actually is.

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Speaker 2: Well, take your calls on this one. It's getting the

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Speaker 2: point where I think a lot of people are running

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Speaker 1: Yet another early morning press conference from Secretary of War

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Speaker 2: Well, I think we can count on the New York Times,

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Speaker 1: That's the real which is is was the focal point

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Speaker 1: It's actually not about race at all. But the Democrats

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Speaker 5: Iran's leadership is in no better shape. Desperate and hiding.

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Speaker 1: Every everybody did, it seems if you go read that book,

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Speaker 2: Remember, Boys is like the bad guy who shows up

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Speaker 2: and be like, you know, maybe we could do something

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Speaker 2: different here, because your head's not going to stay on

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Speaker 2: your shoulders. That's the concern.

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Speaker 1: The other suggestion that I have seen is that we

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Speaker 1: should take the island with boots on the ground, delta

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Speaker 1: force style where they actually produce all the oil, and

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Speaker 1: just take control of their ability to produce oil, because

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Speaker 1: this is kind of crazy. Iran is continuing to produce oil.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about grabbing carg Island. I mean that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's some pretty next level stuff.

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Speaker 5: That is.

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Speaker 1: I was doing all my reading buck I was trying

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Speaker 1: to prepare myself, like, what are the different A goods?

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Speaker 2: You're going deep onto this one.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm fascinated by it. I don't have the background

450
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Speaker 1: of knowledge that you do, so I'm trying to read

451
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Speaker 1: as much as I can. And there's an idea out

452
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Speaker 1: there that Israeli and US special forces could seize the

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Speaker 1: island of oil production and basically end any ability of

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Speaker 1: Iran to have control over the ingress or egress of oil.

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Speaker 1: Not dissimilar in some ways to what we did with Venezuela,

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Speaker 1: but just take control of this island and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we now are the captain of the Iranian oil ship

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Speaker 1: and we determine everything. Because it's kind of crazy to me,

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Speaker 1: buck I didn't realize Iran has continued to refine and

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Speaker 1: be shipping oil even as we have been attacking them.

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Speaker 1: I think that would surprise a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: I mean, carg Island is essentially where all of the

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Speaker 2: processing of oilmember there's you'll hear these things, and I

464
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Speaker 2: know that some of you are listening to this or like,

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Speaker 2: I've been an oil man for forty years, buckleet, you

466
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Speaker 2: know a lot more than me. And sorry, I'm just

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Speaker 2: assuming the oil man are in Texas has pardon me,

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Speaker 2: but I know there's other places. But you know there's

469
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Speaker 2: some of you that know this stuff backwards and forwards.

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Speaker 2: But do you hear things like heavy crude and sweet

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Speaker 2: crude and all this different stuff? This it has to

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Speaker 2: be refined for it to be usable in the marketplace. Right,

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Speaker 2: It's not just like it pumps out of the ground

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Speaker 2: that it goes right into a car. And ninety percent

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Speaker 2: of car of Iranian oil is processed at carg Island

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Speaker 2: and you're talking about almost a billion barrels of oil

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Speaker 2: a year there, right, So if you are you don't

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Speaker 2: have to stop the oil from being pumped out of

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Speaker 2: the ground, nor do you have to touch the oil

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Speaker 2: infrastructure that does that, which would be a very very

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Speaker 2: bad idea to have essentially a total choke point for

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Speaker 2: Ronnie and oil exports because they can't refine it, they

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Speaker 2: ain't selling its not the same way one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: And this is why I think, in addition to not

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Speaker 2: wanting to give away strategic operational goals, this is why

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Speaker 2: boots on the ground doesn't necessarily mean tens of thousands

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Speaker 2: of troops. It could mean not only on this KRJ Island,

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Speaker 2: but also on some of the nuclear mountainous terrain that

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Speaker 2: you might have to go into. It could mean elite

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Speaker 2: commando style raids with boots on the ground that is

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Speaker 2: very different than what we saw, for instance in Iraq.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 1: And we were just talking about the terror attack at

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Speaker 1: Old Dominion University in Virginia, and we mentioned that the

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Speaker 1: Razi students apprehended, killed and disarmed this individual with their

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Speaker 1: bare hands during the attack. Unfortunately, one life was lost,

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Speaker 1: and I want to make sure that I read this correctly.

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Speaker 1: The victim of the terror attack at Old Dominion. This

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Speaker 1: is according to Greg Price, who does good work on

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Speaker 1: social media. Has been identified as Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shaw,

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Speaker 1: who was a professor of Military science and the leader

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Speaker 1: of the university's RATZI program. He was a veteran of

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Speaker 1: Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation Enduring Freedom, and Atlantic Resolve. His

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Speaker 1: awards included two Bronze Stars, Senior Army Aviator Badge, Combat

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Speaker 1: Action Badge, Parachutist Badge, Arissault Badge, Defense Meritorious Service Medal,

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Speaker 1: Meritorious Service Medal, Air Medal with Valor, Joint Service Commendation Medal,

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Speaker 1: Army Commendation Medal, and the Joint Service Achievement Medal. He

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Speaker 1: died on the campus in this attack. His students disarmed

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Speaker 1: and killed the attacker. But we want to make sure

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Speaker 1: that we honor the individuals who are victims of these

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Speaker 1: different terror attacks. Again, Lieutenant Colonel Brandon Shaw, and if

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Speaker 1: there are people out there listening to us right now

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Speaker 1: that know anything about him or served with him, it'd

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Speaker 1: be great to hear some of your talkbacks. But Buck,

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Speaker 1: this is we were as we went to break, just

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Speaker 1: talking about this. I think one of the stories here

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Speaker 1: is there is so much innate goodness in America. The

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Speaker 1: attack would be attack on the synagogue in northern Michigan

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Speaker 1: or just north of Detroit and Oakland County still southeastern Michigan,

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Speaker 1: but just north of Detroit. These guys were ready for

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Speaker 1: it and they killed the attacker. This was I think

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Speaker 1: the number was over one hundred kids in a jew

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Speaker 1: preschool that were there that could have been victims, but

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Speaker 1: for the security being there. The only person who died

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Speaker 1: on that day yesterday was the would be attacker in

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Speaker 1: basically his vehicle that he drove in intending to blow

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Speaker 1: up and kill as many people as possible. Again, everybody

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Speaker 1: needs to say stay hyper vigilant given what's going on

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Speaker 1: right now. But I think it's a testament to the

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Speaker 1: bravery of so many people across America that we have

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Speaker 1: now had four would be terror attacks for actual terror attacks,

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Speaker 1: and I believe there have only been three victims. Every

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Speaker 1: loss of life is awful. I believe two people lost

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Speaker 1: their lives in Austin, innocent people at a bar when

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Speaker 1: a guy started shooting, and now this RATZI leader on

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Speaker 1: Old Dominions campus, but no deaths, and these guys were apprehended.

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Speaker 1: In New York City, the brave police officer who we

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Speaker 1: talked about who jumped over the barricade and went and

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Speaker 1: tackled them immediately and got them arrested. Security officials at

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Speaker 1: the synagogue who killed this would be a terrorist, I

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Speaker 1: mean to have. I think it's five different terrorists, if

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, who have attempted to take as many

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Speaker 1: lives as possible and for them to only get three lives,

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Speaker 1: and for the bravery of responders to immediately take them

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Speaker 1: out I think as a testament to security officials and

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Speaker 1: also just the bravery of first responders and everybody out

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Speaker 1: there in America right now. But unfortunately, I know you're

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Speaker 1: looking and thinking about this quite a lot based on

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Speaker 1: your background. It seems unlikely this is going to be

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Speaker 1: the end, and so more are coming.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not the end, and they tend to hold

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Speaker 2: grudges in the gee hottest world. So it's not like

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Speaker 2: even if the air campaign stops tomorrow, which I don't

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Speaker 2: think it will, they would say, Okay, we're going to

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Speaker 2: leave things alone now and move on with our lives.

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Speaker 2: I would just second what you said, Clay about the

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Speaker 2: security at that synagogue in Michigan. Think about this probably

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Speaker 2: saved I don't know, dozens of lives by being armed,

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Speaker 2: present and ready to go. I understand the bomb didn't

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Speaker 2: go off that this guy had in his car, but

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Speaker 2: he was prepared for that possibility, and he also had

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Speaker 2: I believe, a rifle and was ready to start shooting people.

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Speaker 2: And if you're in a synagogue and you don't have

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Speaker 2: armed security, even if you rush a shooter like this,

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Speaker 2: a lot of lives are going to be lost in

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Speaker 2: that process, and instead no innocent life was lost in

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Speaker 2: the process. It's just a reminder the good guy with

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Speaker 2: a gun thing that Democrats still sneer at. They don't

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Speaker 2: really ever want to look at what actually works, what

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Speaker 2: actually keeps people safe. You know. I mean, I gotta

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Speaker 2: tell you. Even here in Miami, I'll see sometimes like

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Speaker 2: a venue or a place and they'll say, you know,

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Speaker 2: no weapons allowed, and I just want to be like,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're you're just disarming the good guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're just saying in a state where we have very

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Speaker 2: pro to A laws thankfully, Uh, Florida is great on this.

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Speaker 2: New York is New York City is preposterous. New York

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Speaker 2: City is just one big violation of the Second Amendment.

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Speaker 2: But you look at Florida. Florida's great. But you go

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Speaker 2: private venues, you know, for concerts things like that, and

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Speaker 2: they're you know, they'll have no weapons signs, and you know,

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Speaker 2: now you got to think, Okay, I'm gonna be in

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be in violational law if I care. What

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Speaker 2: is the point of that. If someone whether they're a

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Speaker 2: gang member or a terrorist, wants to hurt people, they're

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Speaker 2: carrying the gun no matter what. You know, I just

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many times we have to go

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Speaker 2: through this. You know, Virginia is currently looking at a

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Speaker 2: at legislation to create some kind of a band. You know,

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Speaker 2: they're going to have some specific Senate but essentially an

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Speaker 2: assault rifle band in Virginia. Yeah, after after moderate Spamberger

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Speaker 2: fooled enough Virginia soccer mom that she was able to

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Speaker 2: and you know, dads, she was able to win the election.

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Speaker 2: And you sit here and you just go, when will

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Speaker 2: the lesson be learned? When do they figure out that

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Speaker 2: they're little rules and they're little you know, they're they're

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Speaker 2: pro clutching over people who like to go shooting on

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Speaker 2: the weekends, who're law abiding Second Amendment people. They're wrong,

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Speaker 2: they're just wrong on this issue. If we had listened

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Speaker 2: to them and had not had armed security at the synagogue,

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Speaker 2: you know, god knows what would have happened there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, you're really just notifying the bad guys

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Speaker 1: where they should go. When you say gun free zones,

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Speaker 1: you're just telling them, hey, this is an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: go after people who are predominantly not gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to defend themselves.

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Speaker 2: And this is why.

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Speaker 1: Look, I hope what happened at the synagogue. I hope

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Speaker 1: it's a lesson to every school and every religious institution

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Speaker 1: in America. I would prefer that there be armed security everywhere.

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Speaker 1: My kids go to schools with a lot of armed secuity.

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Speaker 1: I want everybody's kids going to schools with a lot

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Speaker 1: of armed security, public school and private school. By the way,

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee where I am, I feel very fortunate when

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Speaker 1: I drop my kids off and I see the security

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Speaker 1: guard strapped, and I think most of you out there

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Speaker 1: listening right now feel the same way. Here's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: It also is important, for instance, one of my kids

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Speaker 1: that on the elementary school right now, when you have

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Speaker 1: an officer in the school, young kids learn that they

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Speaker 1: can trust police and that police are there to help them,

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Speaker 1: which they might not hear at home. And so having

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Speaker 1: a school resource officer who is there, who is armed,

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Speaker 1: who is there to make sure that the kids are

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Speaker 1: all safe, it's an important lesson. I hope that they

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Speaker 1: never have to use their weapon ever, but it's an

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Speaker 1: important lesson for young kids to begin to understand that

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Speaker 1: police are not bad guys, and unfortunately, there's lots of

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Speaker 1: people out there who will try to teach them that

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Speaker 1: police are bad guys.

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Speaker 2: You know, the estimates are that it would be maybe

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Speaker 2: ten billion dollars to have armed security at least available

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Speaker 2: in every school in America. Ten billion dollars. I mean

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Speaker 2: that's like around you how many fakes? Yes, how many

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Speaker 2: fake Somali daycares? Is that not that many? You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I mean, how many fake autism centers

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Speaker 2: in California, which we're going to talk about that later,

641
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Speaker 2: by the way, just people ripping off the system with fraud. Yes,

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Speaker 2: ten billion dollars to keep school safe. And people say, oh,

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Speaker 2: but sometimes they'll shoot the security guard. Okay, nothing is

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Speaker 2: perfect everyone, but you know, you know, it's really have.

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Speaker 1: To shoot the security guard first then immediately go to

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Speaker 1: kids and teachers.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's really imperfect. Making me wait five days. Well,

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Speaker 2: if you ever concealed carry, you can actually, but you know,

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Speaker 2: making people wait five days and I'm still waiting for

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Speaker 2: my concealed carry permit to arrive. Actually I've already applied

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Speaker 2: for it. Before I can go get my like ninth

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Speaker 2: gun or whatever.

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Speaker 1: That's keeping people make me wait five days before I

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Speaker 1: can get my latest range my latest range gun.

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Speaker 2: You know, like, this is idiot rules. These are idiotic rules,

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Speaker 2: and people still push them. So the guns are scary.

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Speaker 2: They go bang bang, is loud, loud and scary. They

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Speaker 2: know nothing.

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Speaker 1: You know what I've also been seeing and I want

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Speaker 1: to encourage this. Carol Markowitz is a friend of the program.

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Speaker 1: She's part of the Clay and Buck podcast network. She's

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Speaker 1: learned how to use a gun. My wife now goes

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Speaker 1: to the range once a week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet Lara's kind of nasty with a pistol.

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Speaker 3: She is.

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Speaker 1: She is very talented with a weapon. But I've been

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Speaker 1: amazed at how many women I now meet who you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't expect to be very adept at weaponry, that are

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Speaker 1: aware that danger is out there and they want to

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Speaker 1: be able to take care of their families. And I

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Speaker 1: think the number of guns has skyrocketed.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: This is the real impact of trying to regulate guns

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Speaker 1: is every time democrats try to regulate guns, it's the

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Speaker 1: greatest advertisement for guns that has ever existed. Everybody out

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Speaker 1: there understands what I'm talking about. As soon as there

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Speaker 1: is the hint of gun regulation, millions more guns get

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Speaker 1: sold almost overnight, and the amount of guns in good

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Speaker 1: hands has skyrocketed. I would say, since you've seen it bucks,

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Speaker 1: since since twenty twenty where people just thought that they

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Speaker 1: were never going to be in danger and they've seen

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Speaker 1: crime and they say, I'm not risking or relying on

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Speaker 1: somebody getting to me. I'm going to take care of

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Speaker 1: my family.

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Speaker 2: The same way that mayor Mom. Donni is currently Florida

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Speaker 2: Real Estate Salesman of the Year. Barack Obama was actually

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Speaker 2: National Firearms Salesmen of like the decade because every time

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Speaker 2: they would try to browbeat us and shout at us

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Speaker 2: and say give up all your aar fifteens and give

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Speaker 2: up all your.

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Speaker 1: People would just go out and get more. Yes, no,

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Speaker 1: well I'm gonna get grandfathered in now. That's totally right.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, if you want to go to data,

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Speaker 1: we've got more guns in America than we ever have.

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Speaker 1: Crime is overall going down substantially the lowest in one

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five years when it comes to murder

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Speaker 1: based on the data from twenty twenty five. And you

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Speaker 1: know this, I think it should be screamed from the

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Speaker 1: heavens more loudly. If you have a legal permit to

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Speaker 1: own a gun, your rate of criminal violation is infinitely

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Speaker 1: lower than the average American is. Gun owners are the

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Speaker 1: most law abiding community on the planet. And again that's

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Speaker 1: a data set that isn't very well known, but I

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Speaker 1: think is consequential and.

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Speaker 2: Signal you're referring to as CCW holders have fewer infractions

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Speaker 2: of law per capita than law enforcement, which is.

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Speaker 1: Really that's even crazier, right, I mean, because you're talking

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Speaker 1: about it is evidence that should be within the public

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Speaker 1: discourse on a level that it is not