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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we don't trust ourselves not

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Wesleyan.

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Speaker 1: Podcast studio with Steve Weish, Colleen Wolf, and Jordan Rodrieg

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Speaker 1: previewing week thirteen. Yes, the game's after Thanksgiving and Black Friday,

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Speaker 1: and Jordan, Yeah, I don't quite trust us not to

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Speaker 1: get out of here in less than two hours, So

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Speaker 1: we're putting a clock on every game only five minutes.

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Speaker 3: Are you wearing that yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Outfit, repeat we yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It's a little it's a little trick of the game.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we got we got family, and my parents arrived

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Speaker 1: on Monday night, so that was exciting. My brother and

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Speaker 1: his wife are coming and we're actually gonna have the

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Speaker 1: entire family together.

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Speaker 2: We bought a new table that extends out.

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Speaker 1: It'll be the first time that we've all been together

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Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving ever, because the last time was when my

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Speaker 1: son and Walker wasn't even born yet. So cool, and

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Speaker 1: I love a sunny Thanksgiving. Like we're looking at the temperatures.

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Speaker 1: You were saying, it's gonna be like thirty degrees everywhere

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Speaker 1: I was driving into work today. It's in the seventies

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Speaker 1: and sunny, and you can see the snow on the

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Speaker 1: mountains in the diss.

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Speaker 2: That's the combo you want, why.

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Speaker 5: We pay the sunshine.

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Speaker 1: So we're setting this up. We got twelve games. They

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Speaker 1: were randomly assigned. Jordan was upset that she didn't get

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Speaker 1: the Rams Panthers, but they were randomly assigned.

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Speaker 4: It's the two teams that shaped my existence. Okay, but okay, yeah.

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Speaker 5: I got you.

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Speaker 1: I just went in order, and so everyone got three

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Speaker 1: games apiece. And what we're gonna do is we're gonna

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Speaker 1: start a clock and we're gonna start the discussion with

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Speaker 1: one thing that will blow your mind. Uh, for each

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Speaker 1: game and anything that you want to lead off the game.

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Speaker 1: And Jordan, you're gonna lead us off first with Texan

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Speaker 1: and Colts, probably the best game on Sunday. Colts are

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Speaker 1: favored by four and a half. With that number, but

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Speaker 1: two games left between these two teams. What do you

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Speaker 1: got for us? What's going to blow our mind?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 6: And if you love football, this is for you because

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Speaker 6: Houston's defense is magnificent. It is a work of violent art.

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Speaker 6: It is the thing that I have surprised myself about.

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Speaker 6: And that's one of the things that I look forward

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Speaker 6: to the most about every single week of this season

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Speaker 6: so far is certainly not to watch their offense, but

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Speaker 6: to watch Houston's defense.

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Speaker 4: All of the cool stuff.

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Speaker 6: Of all the cool things that's happening in football right now,

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Speaker 6: this defense is right at the top of the list

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Speaker 6: for me. They're loaded at every single position, but it

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Speaker 6: starts up front. Will Anderson Junior and Danil Hunter are

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Speaker 6: playing unreal football.

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Speaker 4: They're also getting.

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Speaker 6: Great pressure and run defense from the inside. They only

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Speaker 6: need to four in front to effectively rush, and they're

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Speaker 6: playing a ton of really cool like Murky zone behind it,

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Speaker 6: which is worrying the hell out of quarterbacks. Their second

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Speaker 6: in points allowed per game, and they allow their opponents

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Speaker 6: is the thing that blows my mind is how good

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Speaker 6: this team has stayed even with all of its troubles.

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Speaker 6: Missing CJ. Sharges back this week and also their offense

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Speaker 1: Got to show it. This is their chance to do

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Speaker 1: it against a great cold Stevie. I think it was

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Speaker 1: a big moment for the Texans defense as a brand

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Speaker 1: and for something that blows you right that they actually

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Speaker 1: did get the stop late against the Bills, not just

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Speaker 1: because it saved their season, but the one thing that's

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Speaker 1: separating them in all time great, you know, really memorable

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Speaker 1: defenses is actually they have given up the drive at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game a few times this year

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Speaker 1: to the Broncos, to the Bucks, to the Jags. Even

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Speaker 1: that one was tough, but this time they stet up

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Speaker 1: and can they do it against them?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 8: I was here that Thursday night and so that crazy

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Speaker 8: like hook and lateral players truli we call it was amazing.

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Speaker 8: And the thing that stood out talking to the Bills

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Speaker 8: but just the effort is relentless, Like they don't ever

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Speaker 8: don't play nickel. They go a true four three four.

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Speaker 8: They got Henry Bolt as he's al shire e j

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Speaker 8: them to do delayed blitzes and things like that. They're

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Speaker 8: really confused at quarterback. I love Houston and Indiana. You

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Speaker 8: know in that game last week, they just showed me.

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Speaker 2: A little Are they ready for a moment like that?

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Speaker 5: And that's exactly like, are they ready? I'm not quite sure.

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Speaker 3: We'll see, I mean, we're gonna find out.

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Speaker 7: And Will Anderson Junior, he's been so good as you

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Speaker 7: just mentioned, but how they can use him to effectively

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Speaker 7: slow down and sort of bottle up Jonathan Taylor and

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Speaker 7: that I think is where the Texans are going to

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Speaker 7: would that he and put them in the AFC.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think this, I mean I love that. I

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Speaker 6: love that point because the way that the Colts do

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Speaker 6: play offense actually is a great matchup for them versus

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Speaker 6: one of the NFL's best defense is because as solid

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Speaker 6: as this group is against the pass, they are more

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Speaker 6: the top five of these defenses, right now, they're the

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Speaker 6: only ones allowing over four yards per play on the ground,

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Speaker 6: so every piece of their focus has to be on

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Speaker 6: by one of the most explosive passing offenses still in

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Speaker 6: football right now. And also, like you said, Colleen, focusing

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Speaker 6: all of that effort on limiting Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 8: And I love that they better play yeah, because if

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Speaker 8: he comes in here and he MUCKs it up, you're

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Speaker 8: gonna hear with some Davis millscote.

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Speaker 5: I'm serious. Still, I was down there. You will no nills.

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Speaker 1: Its played at the perfect level where of course CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stratt has got to be an upgrade, but it did

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Speaker 1: enough to win. I love that every team, every season

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Speaker 1: like shows how strong this Texans team are to like

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Speaker 1: bounce all the way back. And it could be or

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Speaker 1: or the Colts will really be that team this season.

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Speaker 1: But when I think about these two like coaches who

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Speaker 1: been in bigger games in these spots. So if you're

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Speaker 1: the Texans. Love it all right, but we didn't even

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Speaker 1: get to the buzzer. Here, look at us. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to the Rams and the Cardinals. Rams are favored by

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Speaker 1: ten and a half points in Carolina and the Rams Panthers,

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Speaker 1: rather the Panthers at home. Returning after Monday night football, Steve,

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Speaker 1: we got some news that Trayvon Marrek suspended for cup

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Speaker 1: check punching Juwan Jennings in the nether regions.

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Speaker 5: You just don't do that at the end of the game,

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Speaker 5: and that's a big blow.

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Speaker 8: I initially literally, So here's what blows my mind. I

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Speaker 8: initially said this was going to be a much closer.

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Speaker 5: Game than a ten and a half.

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Speaker 8: I thought it was gonna be more like a three

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Speaker 8: point game, just because the Rams are playing at such

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Speaker 8: a high level. To continue that is hard. But the

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Speaker 8: possibility not only Marry who's having a very good season out,

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Speaker 8: but jac Horn had the concussion forty nine. If he's out,

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna change my blow my mind to Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 8: throwing five touchdowns to different receivers because going two scoop

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Speaker 8: to DeVante Adams, because they've got something really working.

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Speaker 5: All right, Jordan, the rest is your No.

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Speaker 3: She's so excited about this game too. She sat up

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Speaker 4: Reckon, I saw my hands were folded. I was like,

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Speaker 4: what the f am I doing right now?

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Speaker 6: Like it's so fun because so Bryce Young has simply

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Speaker 6: got to play better. There were a couple of throws

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Speaker 6: on the ground with his legs, including that interception in

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Speaker 6: the end zone when he could have he could have

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Speaker 6: scored a touchdown with his legs. I think that this

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Speaker 6: with the way that the Rams corners are playing right now,

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Speaker 6: Kobe Durant coming off multiple interceptions in the last couple

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Speaker 6: of weeks. Emmanuel Forbes has about that very quietly become

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Speaker 6: one of the best cornerbacks permmeitter cornerbacks in the NFL

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Speaker 6: this year. And he's playing he allowed no catches last week,

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Speaker 6: and he's coming down and tackling in space. And when

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Speaker 6: I look at the way the only thing that Dave

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Speaker 6: Canalis can seem to effectively get this offense going with

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Speaker 4: This pass rush.

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Speaker 6: The way that these corners are coming down and not

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Speaker 6: so I just think that this defense, this Rams defense,

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Speaker 6: I and you guys know this. I've been honking about

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Speaker 6: the Matthew Stafford season all before the season, right, but

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Speaker 6: this defense to me under Chrishula against it, and also

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Speaker 6: on the opposite sideline, his former colleague at Joe Evro

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Speaker 6: and Jonathan Cooley's over there. This defense under Chrishula is

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Speaker 6: one of the biggest stories of the NFL season in

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Speaker 6: my opinion, because it's all young guys that they drafted

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Speaker 6: and a couple vets that they paid cheap deals.

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Speaker 1: It's why there's no reason to think this is going

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Speaker 1: to be a good game. It's not going The Rams

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Speaker 1: have outscored one I sold forty nine to three in

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Speaker 1: the first quarter since their bye week. In the first

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Speaker 1: quarters of games, they've outscored opponents forty nine three.

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Speaker 2: There's been like no let up with this team.

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Speaker 5: It's hard to keep that up though. It's hard to sustain.

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Speaker 1: That's fair and it's like a ten am n I

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Speaker 6: See Sean McVay take his foot off the gas many

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Speaker 6: a season against inferior.

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Speaker 1: But this team has been different, to be fair, than

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Speaker 1: any other team like that.

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Speaker 3: The Rams.

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Speaker 7: There's no way in looking at them and saying, oh,

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Speaker 7: maybe the Panthers could get them here here or here.

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Speaker 7: They're just like such a complete team and they were

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Speaker 7: just steam rolling defenses with their passing game. They can

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Speaker 7: also run the ball against the Panthers too, So the

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Speaker 7: Panthers it's like, okay, their defense can maybe create turnovers

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Speaker 7: here and they're not against the Rams though, I mean

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Speaker 7: create momentum with the short fields. For Bryce Young, we

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Speaker 7: Monday Night game. But this is clearly advantage Rams Rams

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Speaker 2: Right with the forty.

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Speaker 8: Nine ery to Bryce was what teams are doing to

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Speaker 1: We're excited for your game, Colleen. You are gonna tell

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Speaker 7: Okay, the quarterback that signed a two hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: She accepted the assignment, but it's.

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Speaker 3: I could see this happening. There is absolutely a path

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Speaker 5: They're much better defense with three players.

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Speaker 7: Yes, so can't stress that enough, but I'd love to

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Speaker 8: I don't think they're gonna be able to run the

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Speaker 2: I think it's a good matchup. The forty nine ers

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 6: I think that this Cleveland defense, I think they're going

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I want to play a game quickly with you guys.

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Speaker 6: How many tackles for loss do you think this Cleveland

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Speaker 5: It's got to be high thirties.

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Speaker 4: It's seventy five.

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Speaker 6: Still a lot, but ninety seven tackles for lost. I

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Speaker 5: She gave babies too.

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Speaker 1: So Eric has been on record he likes to hear

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Speaker 2: Gets a little boring just listening to us.

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Speaker 1: All the time. So let's listen to our friend Omar Ruiz.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Miles Garrett is coming for you.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 5: Sure the whole interview was great, but that was beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Great job.

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Speaker 7: I did get to get by Miles Garrett on a

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Speaker 3: That's best case scenario. Every day, it's going to be probable.

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Speaker 1: Famously, Jordan chose to get tackled by Miles Garrett multiple

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Speaker 2: In a would you rather over.

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Speaker 4: This sum versus being followed by cats?

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Speaker 4: It's a tough just end it quickly, deal exactly.

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Speaker 2: I thought that joke deserved more. That was good.

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Speaker 3: That was good, That was a great call.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that will blow your mind, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy's not playing in this game is from our

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Speaker 1: I guess in this game I'm looking for. I truly

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Speaker 4: Almost everyone with one glaring excession.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Nick Mullens had some ups and downs. There

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Speaker 5: Oh, if you like to throw interceptions?

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Speaker 8: Sam Donald through four picks? Okay against the Rams, he

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Speaker 8: In the fact that he threw four picks and they

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Speaker 1: running game. Yeah, I mentioned it during that Cardinals game.

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Speaker 1: Did their whole season turnaround when they had that eighteen

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Speaker 1: play drive where they just ran the ball and their

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Speaker 1: running game has been pretty good since then. It was good,

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Speaker 1: not great, but decent with Kenneth Walker. He had the

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Speaker 1: highest success rate of any running back in that Rams

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Speaker 1: Seahawks game. And then last week they really ran the

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Speaker 1: ball well against the Titans. So this is how you

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Speaker 1: attack the Vikings is running the ball.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you have to because of any team I think,

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Speaker 6: maybe other than the Seahawks, because I think they could

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Speaker 6: do this too against opponents, but of any other team

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Speaker 6: in the league right now, Minnesota to is best equipped

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Speaker 6: to simulate the types of pressure that actually affected Sam

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Speaker 6: Donald previously, which is a lot of we mentioned it previously,

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Speaker 6: like the simulated stuff or like these these creepers where

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Speaker 6: you have an extra pressure player coming up to the

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Speaker 6: line of scrimmage, and also doing so on different delays

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Speaker 6: and timing based on where they're at in the cadence

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Speaker 6: and showing like they're going to come and rush the

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Speaker 6: quarterback and then dropping quickly and then making yeah, and

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Speaker 6: then making really cloudy looks when they do drop, and

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Speaker 6: and it really worries the quarterback. It certainly is worried,

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Speaker 6: Sam Donald, this is not something you want to see

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Speaker 6: if you're Max Brosmer, who yes to your point. On

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Speaker 6: the other side, I think Seattle can get a lot

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Speaker 6: of good pressure against this Vikings front. It sounds like

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Speaker 6: Ryan Kelly might be back this week as well, and

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Speaker 6: they really.

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Speaker 2: Need some sarasaw that did not but at the.

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Speaker 6: Center, but at the center the center position specific when

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Speaker 6: you have a guy in Max Brosner coming in and

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Speaker 6: started making his first start against this, Seattle the best

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Speaker 6: defense in the NFL right now, and you're going to

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Speaker 6: potentially be facing all kinds of similar types of funky pressure.

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Speaker 1: We should give some background Max Brasban, by the way,

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Speaker 1: he's a twenty four year old Minnesota product who is

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Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie here.

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Speaker 4: And that coaching sad loves him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's one of those guys who.

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Speaker 1: He played at New Hampshire for five years before going.

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Speaker 4: Oh Greg hates him.

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Speaker 1: He's old, so he's got reps, he's got No, it's

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Speaker 1: more than New Hampshire was Chip Kelly there with him.

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Speaker 5: Still like three years younger than bo Nicks.

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Speaker 3: Sure, what do you think Mike McDonald is doing right now?

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Speaker 4: Just like him and sipping broth and laughing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, him and Leslie Frasier are sitting back there. Let's

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Speaker 8: not forget less.

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Speaker 1: Frasier's yeah, thinking about how he cannot go for it

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Speaker 1: on fourth and two. I see you, Mike McDonald, the

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Speaker 1: last conservative coach in the league. I want to see

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Speaker 1: get Rashid Shaheed in the mix. It's been interesting because

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Speaker 1: he is on the field a lot. He's in the

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Speaker 1: backfield sometimes he's getting some carries. He has not been

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Speaker 1: a part of this offense yet.

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Speaker 8: So because yes, EN's just killing right now. I mean

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Speaker 8: he's just making so many plays.

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Speaker 5: You keep going to it.

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Speaker 8: But Rahi he will have some timely plays. That's what

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Speaker 8: he does. I mean, he he's Chris Carter. He only

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Speaker 8: scores touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Can't top that.

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Speaker 1: That's Steve Wish and uh, that's Colleen Wolf, that's Jordan

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Speaker 1: rodrig This is the four pack that is going through

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Speaker 1: each and every game. I like having the clock on.

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Speaker 1: It just makes you feel a little more alive.

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Speaker 4: I'm very aware of it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's it's good. Let's take a break.

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Speaker 3: He's giving notes live on the show.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back and uh, we'll break down the rest

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Speaker 1: of this week thirteen Slate. Yeah, back on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: It's Thanksgiving week and maybe the kids are out of

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Speaker 1: school because you know how there's a lot of tours

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Speaker 1: going through and it's usually it's usually adults. Here at

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Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium. You know, we're right next to it with

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Speaker 1: the NFL Network studios. There's been a lot of tours

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Speaker 1: going through, but this morning I noticed it's been all

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Speaker 1: like kids tours.

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Speaker 2: You guys been waving at them.

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Speaker 6: Usually don't get a lot of Colleen made a six

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Speaker 6: to seven joke and crowd, real crowd.

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Speaker 1: It was amazing kids, real crowd. Please, I'm not embellishing

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Speaker 1: this story at all. I was coming into the studio

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Speaker 1: there was a tour and the woman giving the tour

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Speaker 1: points to a picture where the man's face is a

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Speaker 1: little covered. You guys will know who I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Don't give it away here and she says, can any

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Speaker 1: of you kids like recognize who this is by the eyes?

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Speaker 1: It's just total silence a bunch of like eight to

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Speaker 1: ten year olds. And then she goes, I'll give you

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Speaker 1: a hint. He's dating a twenty four year old. And immediately,

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, you.

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Speaker 5: Know what.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna be Okay.

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Speaker 4: The culture is aware.

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Speaker 1: This was like, if you had told me this entire

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Speaker 1: story a couple years ago, would Belichick still riding high?

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Speaker 5: I would not have imagine? Can you imagine like seven

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Speaker 5: super Bowls?

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Speaker 4: That's the clue. That's the clue.

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Speaker 3: I never saw the simulation coming.

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Speaker 1: I was already past them, and I just started laughing

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Speaker 1: so hard. I was like, I'm so glad I went

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Speaker 1: by at that exact moment to her.

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Speaker 4: Woman here, who does I catch some of her?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 6: She has great commentary. Sometimes she should do stand up

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Speaker 6: honestly like she didn't.

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Speaker 5: Job. That's where we are.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about one of Bill Belichick's former homes. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets. H there was a moment where

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Speaker 1: he had to resign as HC of the n y

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Speaker 1: J on a little piece of paper is breathing.

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Speaker 2: He didn't even at times did he just did it?

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Speaker 1: Now he's going up against the team where he wanted

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Speaker 1: the job desperately a couple of years ago, to the

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Speaker 1: point where his consiglieri Mike Lombardi, has been burying them

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Speaker 1: ever since for not hiring Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 2: It's the Falcons minus two and a half at the Jets, and.

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Speaker 8: We're an assistant coach is actually hiring members of staff

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Speaker 8: until the owner of the Falcons said, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 8: think we do want you.

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Speaker 5: Okay, here's how I'm gonna blow your mind. It's gonna

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Speaker 5: be cold weather game, right.

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Speaker 8: The New York Jets, who only have seven interceptions on

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Speaker 8: the season, gonna get at least two against kirk O.

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Speaker 8: Change because Zach Robinson's gonna believe so much in Kirko's

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Speaker 8: performance against the Saints that he's gonna have him throw

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Speaker 8: at thirty two plus times. Oh no, oh, yeah, that's

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Speaker 8: what happens.

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Speaker 5: That's what happens with this organization.

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Speaker 8: Start feeling really good about their quarterback and they go

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Speaker 8: go gets everything that analytics and competence will tell them.

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Speaker 8: Just give it the ball to seven or twenty five,

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Speaker 8: and it gave like this, But no Kurko chain number eighteen.

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Speaker 8: He's gonna get him back in the hut. They just

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Speaker 8: saw Tampa Bay Lows. He just saw Carolina. It's too

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Speaker 8: we're in the mix. We got a shot, and the

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Speaker 8: team with only seven picks is going to near double

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Speaker 8: digits by the time this is over.

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Speaker 5: That's the New York Jets.

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Speaker 1: There is kind of a path for the Falcons for

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Speaker 1: how bad this division is and the schedule. I don't

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Speaker 1: believe it, but we tried to make a case for

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Speaker 1: a Dolphins path that's not happening no matter how many

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Speaker 1: games the Falcons that division like N eight wins, good.

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Speaker 6: Winning bucks sliding the way that they have been. Absolutely

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Speaker 6: that there is a path for the Falcons. You know, Steve,

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Speaker 6: what might make them sleep at night with the consequences

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Speaker 6: of their own actions, which I.

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Speaker 4: Fully believe will happen.

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Speaker 6: Just like what you're saying is that they're like, Okay,

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Speaker 6: we got everyone to shut up already about the pistol

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Speaker 6: formation we're putting. We got under center, which for all

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Speaker 6: of three plays and also in the gun, which he

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Speaker 6: was in the vast majority of his his snaps that

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Speaker 6: he did get only in the pistol seven times and

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Speaker 6: so I think that that sort of shift, maybe you're

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Speaker 6: listening to your quarterback a little bit more of It's

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Speaker 6: a similar, I guess, a spacing alignment, and it similarly

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Speaker 6: does not unlike the pistol, it does not give you

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Speaker 6: the benefit of just a built in run fake that

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Speaker 6: could happen.

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Speaker 4: So those are the negatives. But clearly Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 6: Was more comfortable in a different alignment than what they

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Speaker 6: sort of had forced this offense into in a box

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Speaker 6: for the last several weeks.

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Speaker 2: You played pretty well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, where's Drake the London in terms of his so

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Speaker 7: early in the week there was some reporting that they're

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Speaker 7: going to be conservative with him, which so that does

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Speaker 7: not sound good.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's a sneaky big game for their

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Speaker 1: front office, for their coaching staff. Every every game is big,

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Speaker 1: but losing to the Jets, which is very possible because

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Speaker 1: I think the Jets are playing better and I think

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Speaker 1: play well. Yeah, Aaron Glenn and Tanner engstro and I

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Speaker 1: think they do have something. They've been talking all year

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Speaker 1: about that Lion season where you start out so slow

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Speaker 1: and at the end of the year they started playing better.

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Speaker 1: I think they're having a version of that here, and

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Speaker 1: they need some wins to to buttress that argument. I

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Speaker 1: think this could you know, they could win this game.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And if the Falcons lose this game, I mean

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Speaker 8: I'm telling you, I know the owner, well, the second

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Speaker 8: half of seasons, if there's a slide, he pays incredible

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Speaker 8: attention to that because that's where he's like, there's film

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Speaker 8: on us. If you're not adjusting to it, if you're

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Speaker 8: not fixing the things that we're supposed to fix, that's that.

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Speaker 8: So maybe getting under center helps them. But I just

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Speaker 8: have a feeling they're gonna have.

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Speaker 5: Kerkco change trying to throw this ball, yeah, all over

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Speaker 5: the field.

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Speaker 2: In like a windy, cold stadium.

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Speaker 3: The Jets are going to win them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh that's what I'm I think they can.

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Speaker 6: And then I think that to your you guys point,

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Speaker 6: that has I think catastrophic consequences for the staff and

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Speaker 6: the yes to the front office. Oh yeah, oh, because

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Speaker 6: I mean you're starting to see when the narrative shifts

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Speaker 6: and sort of these spotlight columns start circling around, you know,

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Speaker 6: the the NFL conversation and columnsts like Mike Sando that

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Speaker 6: every owner in the league reads talking about malpractice at

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Speaker 6: quarterback and what's the next team that's gonna falcon in this.

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Speaker 4: Way like that.

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Speaker 6: That's a big deal to these owners who are paying attention.

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Speaker 8: And for the first time since seriously, like two thousand

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Speaker 8: and six, they've got a defense with a pass rush.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe it.

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Speaker 4: I know at what cost?

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Speaker 8: Right That's that's been the supposed one Achilles heel, and

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Speaker 8: now the offense can't score.

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Speaker 4: The pendulum swings balance in the universe.

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Speaker 7: Like Vic Beasley was the last power rush that I'd

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Speaker 7: like done anything.

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Speaker 5: I'd like to skip over that here and go back.

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Speaker 1: To Johnny don Abraham. He was the guy for the

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Speaker 1: Falcons and the Jets. You know, there could be a scenario.

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Speaker 1: I saw Josina Anderson putting out there that teams are

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Speaker 1: interested in Belichick, which I don't totally buy, but if

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Speaker 1: there was one that would take the meeting. No way,

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Speaker 1: speaking of long shots.

665
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 5: They're not bringing that into them.

666
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: How about I've been back in Carson Swessner all year

667
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: for Defensive Rick of the Year.

668
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 2: Now he's a heavy, heavy favorite.

669
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 1: I do think he's gonna win that award, But I

670
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: think if there was like a dark horse could Jalen

671
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: Walker over the last six weeks, come on strong. He's

672
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: up to like five or six secs and he just

673
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: looks good. He'd have to go on a monster tear.

674
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 5: James Pearce might be playing better than him. Rush.

675
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 6: That's the thing that is just such a killer about

676
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 6: the narrative of this Falcon season is everything is going

677
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 6: so wrong elsewhere. Their plan worked for bookending these two

678
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 6: draft picks together. They're playing in such chemistry.

679
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: It didn't work giving away their first round, the Rips

680
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: to first round and the Super.

681
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 4: I mean, it's working out.

682
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: It's okay, it's okay, it's gonna work out. For that,

683
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: it's the next people that work there.

684
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: Certainly, I'm not thinking about that.

685
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 2: Colleen.

686
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: We've we've got some of the lesser games in this block.

687
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: But you've got a banger. No, you've got a banger.

688
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: It's the Bills. It's the Steelers. It's in Pittsburgh, and

689
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: the Bills are favored by three and a half.

690
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 7: Okay, So here is my mind blowing thing that's going

691
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 7: to happen. Danny Smith, who is the Steelers special teams coordinator,

692
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 7: he will need extra strength, tile and all for his jaw,

693
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 7: pain after chewing gum so furiously through the fourth quarter,

694
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 7: but that will be secondary to the joy he experiences

695
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 7: after a Pittsburgh special teams player scores the deciding touchdown

696
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 7: on a blocked kick return.

697
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 6: Wow, Okay, I'm no it could be.

698
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: However it I do.

699
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 4: Love this because they've they've got some juice.

700
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: Right they do their defense and special team.

701
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 6: Wait does he what did they say their kicker is

702
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 6: a serial killer? That Mike Tomlin said that earlier this year.

703
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 6: Boswell I said, kiker is a serial killer.

704
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: You know what.

705
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 7: That's effective obviously, but we saw how the offensive line

706
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 7: too for the Bills, completely struggled. And yes, that's part

707
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 7: of that is because the Texans defense is so so good.

708
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 7: But they got to Josh Allen so many times. And

709
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 7: this Steelers team, TJ. Watt and the pass rush, like

710
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 7: if they just saw what the Texans did on film.

711
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 7: They can do some things. They're a little erratic with

712
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 7: it the way that they can get home, but TJ.

713
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 7: Watt is a constant, So I think that they're going

714
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 7: to be able to rattle Josh Allen a little bit.

715
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 7: I would assume that it's like, on one hand, you

716
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 7: could think Josh Allen's coming off this game where he

717
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 7: wants to come out and just like completely turn the

718
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 7: page and ball out. But is that could that be

719
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 7: in his head as well? Now going into this game

720
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 7: because of the matchup.

721
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: Well, he's not used to that offensive line struggling, that's

722
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: all here.

723
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 8: You know why it struggled because the receivers couldn't get open.

724
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 8: He had to hold the ball like the Texans did

725
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 8: not fear the Bills wide receivers one bit.

726
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: Well, you know who's gonna maybe help that, but probably not.

727
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: The Bills have signed Brandon Running Cooks.

728
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 5: How about that he's back? Oh yeah, doesn't he played

729
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 5: there before?

730
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: That was the contender. I don't believe.

731
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he has.

732
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: We have to believe.

733
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: I remember Brandon Cooks in Buffalo. Mean things bounced around.

734
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 8: When you have when you have a receiver who can

735
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 8: take the top off of a defense, that concerns any

736
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 8: defensive coordinator.

737
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 5: If one thing Brandon Cooks can do.

738
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: Is he can go deep, we'll see.

739
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an old version of Brandon Cooks

740
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: that that you're talking about.

741
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: I mean this is an older.

742
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 6: So New England, similar geographic location.

743
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was you did have a moment.

744
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: Patriots, Rams, Saints.

745
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: Texans were in there, Cowboys were in there right.

746
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: Before. Yeah, it's it's it's wild. These teams have struggled.

747
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: The Bills are three and four in their last seven games.

748
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: The Steelers are two and four, and just big picture,

749
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, especially for the Bills, like how

750
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: low we are we going to go here in this season?

751
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: Is it going to be like we're just fighting to

752
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: make the playoffs or is it gonna be we can

753
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: actually take this division still because we're only two back

754
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: of the there are and they play him again.

755
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 5: I will tell you this. After a Texans game, I

756
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 5: spoke to somebody in their front office.

757
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 8: And they are concerned, Yeah, like we have to just

758
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 8: get into the playoffs now because they see how New

759
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 8: England schedule lays out. They're going to Week fourteen by

760
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 8: and they understand that they are not playing well in Buffalo.

761
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 8: They're beat up and this wide receiver I love the

762
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 8: scheme is an issue.

763
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, because the comments to the opposite were so

764
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 6: strong all off season and have been for a couple

765
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 6: of off seasons about not needing to go, but then

766
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 6: the actions that they're taking behind the scenes show the

767
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 6: opposite trying to trade for names and that kind of thing. Okay,

768
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 6: you guys, tell me if I'm crazy, because this might

769
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 6: be a little crazy. But is this for both teams

770
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 6: kind of a sneaky hot seat game at various levels

771
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 6: of the organization and certainly coaching stuff.

772
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 8: That's sneaky about it. Maybe not the game itself, but

773
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 8: if it sends one of them torpedoing.

774
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah.

775
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: There's enough left obviously in the season for both these

776
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: teams after this game, but yeah, they are two of

777
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: the best coaches and the best organizations that it's fair

778
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: to wonder, like, hmm, if you don't end up in

779
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year, could there be a change?

780
00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: I think in Buffalo.

781
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I'm curious to what's keyon Coleman's status, Like

782
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 6: do we know if he's going to.

783
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 5: Do that matter field? Does it matter?

784
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: That's a good question.

785
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 6: That's a good question because he's clearly not doing the

786
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 6: things that they drafted him to do, but then also

787
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 6: missing reportedly missing meetings and those types of.

788
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 5: Even if he's on the field, does it matter.

789
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: I think that's what they would have had him active

790
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: if they thought it was last week again.

791
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 8: The teams go into games. Oh boy, we gotta shut

792
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 8: down Keyon Coleman. I don't think it matters.

793
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 6: I did notice in this last broadcast, and sometimes I

794
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 6: look for like sideline dynamics between people and teammates. I

795
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 6: noticed that he was sort of like attached at the

796
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 6: hip with whoever with the quarterback operation, and also like

797
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 6: whoever had the the mics. It was trying to warm

798
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 6: up Josh Allen between snaps and was really trying to

799
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 6: get you know, he seemed very like, I am I

800
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 6: need to show at you guys on the sideline that

801
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 6: I am engaged in this, and I think that's good.

802
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 6: But at the same time, to your point, if he

803
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 6: was making a difference, he would have been on the field.

804
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: Yes, what was he so busy doing in Buffalo?

805
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 4: Like I mean, hopefully I love.

806
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: Buffalo right now, but like coming for Colleen, they know

807
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: I love them.

808
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: I hear you.

809
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: If you're gonna, if you're gonna like be out late

810
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: one night or whatever, make it in Miami or.

811
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 6: Vegas or Vegas which has happened, you will find, no, you.

812
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 8: Will find the cities where there's a lot to do

813
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 8: is where the players get into the least trouble.

814
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 5: It's where there's not a lot that either gets covered up.

815
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: You got it, you gotta do it, or gets exposed.

816
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: One of your favorite cities, Miami, let's go there. Let's

817
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: talk Saints Falcons, the I mean Saints Dolphins. The Dolphins

818
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: are six point favorites. The fact that the Dolphins are

819
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: favored by six points over an NFL team is why

820
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: GAYL Benson was wrong. It is not ridiculous to can

821
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: sit or firing Mickey Loomis. I mean, give me a

822
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: freaking break. Your organization is this low. That's not the

823
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: mind blowing thing, but it's kind of blowing my mind.

824
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: Here's one thing that blew my mind from the Saints

825
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: game last week. They had two running backs active for

826
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: that game. One of them got hurt right away. Shouldn't

827
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: be that shocking, Alvin Kamara. So the other one just

828
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: had to play the whole game. Devin Neil. And this

829
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: is like the type of stuff that I'm seeing determined

830
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: with Kellen Moore, where Kellen Moore is skating a little

831
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: bit and just all of it is bad. I think

832
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: you were gonna need a real transformative coach to change

833
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: and positively impact a tough situation there, and so far

834
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: he has not been that.

835
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, you can't judge Kelly.

836
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: I can, I can. He is about he knew.

837
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 8: Coming in that they were not going to be very

838
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 8: good once Derek Carr retire.

839
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but still show me something. Just show me a

840
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: little something. What are you all about?

841
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: What are you He's given me Pat shermer Vies, which

842
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: is that we'll forget that he ever was a head

843
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: coach like five wo wow.

844
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 5: I think that's a rough one right there.

845
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 4: Sorry, I think that when you need.

846
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 8: Eight it's really the Mickey Loomis thing that I thought

847
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 8: you were gonna say Mickey Loomis because they brought in

848
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 8: Justin Tucker for a workout, but you just.

849
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: Wanted that too. Let's let's talk that.

850
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 4: Throwing me right into it.

851
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: You take anyone, I'm happy to talk that.

852
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 6: You know what I honestly, when you are an NFL

853
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 6: head coach and you are going to a building where

854
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 6: there needs to not just be a cultural roster overhaul,

855
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 6: a cultural overhaul, you take this job and you are

856
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 6: supposed to be about something. You are supposed to emanate

857
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 6: a palpable The kids will call it aura. You're supposed

858
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 6: to tone set and be the thermostat of that building, and when

859
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 6: you waffle around in front of your local media instead,

860
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 6: just similarly to waffling around with some of these like

861
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 6: cutesy play calls and some of these types of things.

862
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 6: And you're waffling talking about a person who was accused

863
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 6: of sexual misconduct to the point where he was suspended

864
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 6: by the league after the league's investigation for ten games,

865
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 6: and you're calling it some stuff. You are not showing

866
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 6: me the type of personality convicted leadership. You can have

867
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 6: whatever opinion and background and say you are not speaking

868
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 6: with any sort of conviction. Your fan base is listening

869
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 6: to you. One in four women who have been sexually

870
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 6: assaulted are listening to you. Show me some culture, Show

871
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 6: me something in that building. I haven't seen it. I

872
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 6: didn't see it yesterday. I'm noticing. Yeah, I did not

873
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 6: see it this week and I have not seen it all.

874
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: So that was him who said that I saw he's

875
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: been on there's one thing of him in front of

876
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: a podium.

877
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

878
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: That The quote here is he was asked about the

879
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker tryout, and they ultimately decided not to sign

880
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker. But the quote from Kellen Moore was he's

881
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: been one of their leaders talking about Tucker for an

882
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: extended period of time on a very successful team. Obviously

883
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: there's been some stuff that's been unfortunate. He's gone through

884
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Speaker 1: an experience, he said, He's gone through an experience, and

885
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: I think it's about collecting what that experience was, and

886
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: I think it's part of a pattern with more to

887
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: Jordan's point.

888
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: Of not being ready for a moment. Well, now, correct,

889
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: that's my overall point.

890
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 6: So that's my overall point is not being prepared as

891
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 6: the person who is the face of the team, hired

892
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 6: to be the face of the team, to not be

893
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 6: prepared for the moment. Now you have to hedge if

894
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 6: especially if there's legal stuff involved. I understand all the

895
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 6: context and the nuance of what this situation was, but

896
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 6: you must be prepared to lead in moments where you

897
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 6: are being watched and I am noticing.

898
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 7: And that's the job of a coach is to plan

899
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 7: ahead for any possible situation, any fires that could happen.

900
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: You need to.

901
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 7: I'm talking about game planning. That's what you do as

902
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 7: a head coach. You even visualize the different scenarios and

903
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 7: then you plan for them. So if you're not getting

904
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 7: the assignment right with these questions something that absolutely would

905
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 7: have been asked. When you know that this person has

906
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 7: come in and you're not prepared for it, that kind

907
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 7: of speaks to me about the overall operation too.

908
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: And from the top down, because the defense of the

909
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: Mickey loomis that you shouldn't even consider firing him. In

910
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: part this interview she had with Jeff Duncan, she cited

911
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Speaker 1: multiple things. She cited the Luke Fortner trade if you're

912
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Speaker 1: not familiar, a center from the Jaguars that the Mickey

913
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Speaker 1: Loomis did a good job acquiring this year. She also

914
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Speaker 1: cited the hiring of Sean Payne and Drew Brees. It's

915
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Speaker 1: like that's a long time ago, I think if that's

916
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Speaker 1: what you're citing here, it's just it's from the top down.

917
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Speaker 8: Well, to get back to the to the previous point though,

918
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Speaker 8: besides the head coach being prepared organizationally, you got a

919
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 8: buffer your coach. It's not just the head coach. Now again,

920
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 8: Sean Payne telling the other head coaches would.

921
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Speaker 5: Not have gone there.

922
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Speaker 8: They would at the very worst, said I don't bring

923
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Speaker 8: players into try out. Talk to the general manager about that.

924
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 8: But otherwise I think it's been like, look, we brought

925
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 8: him in here, he's no a lot, he's not going

926
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 8: to be on our team and leave it at that.

927
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Speaker 8: To try and justify any way things like that, the

928
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Speaker 8: way he did is not very good. So it's a

929
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Speaker 8: very strong point by you, Jordan, by just saying like

930
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 8: there hasn't been significant leadership. But what that also tells

931
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Speaker 8: me about the way he's coached this year and behave

932
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Speaker 8: this year is he feels very comfortable he's going to

933
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Speaker 8: be there for a while because they know this roster

934
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Speaker 8: is going to get absolutely cleansed.

935
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Speaker 1: After this m and yet they they're the latest team

936
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Speaker 1: that the Dolphins are favored over. And yes, the Dolphins

937
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Speaker 1: will be favored in a couple of games with a

938
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Speaker 1: chance to get to six and seven.

939
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Speaker 5: Play a little better.

940
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Speaker 2: So good luck. There you go, Colleen's favorite everyone.

941
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Speaker 1: Check out her clip where she essentially did how are

942
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Speaker 1: you how do you do?

943
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Speaker 2: Fellow kids for a few minutes on NFL Network.

944
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Speaker 7: List I just you know, I just explained six to

945
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 7: seven through the lens of football and the NFL and

946
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Speaker 7: why it mattered this specific past week.

947
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: My son loved it and wanted to personally tell you

948
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Speaker 1: how much he enjoyed it. It's time for the Sunday

949
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Speaker 1: Drive presented by Toyota. Let's go Places Commanders. Coming off

950
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: that game overseas in the bye week, they are at

951
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 1: home for the Broncos. The Broncos are favored by six

952
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: and a half. Jane Daniels is practicing this week, but

953
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: is not expected to play.

954
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: According to dan U, no way they are playing.

955
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Speaker 4: Yeah, not against the Broncos.

956
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: Man Sari Marcus.

957
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 6: I will say I'm getting a good theme though, because

958
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 6: Greg's given me great defensive games too, Like I love

959
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 6: watching Vance Joseph's defense. I think this is one of

960
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 6: the most fun groups in the league to watch. The

961
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 6: one big thing that I'm watching, or the thing that

962
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 6: I hope blows all of our minds, is the return

963
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 6: potentially of Pat certain And you know, he's been out

964
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 6: for a while, and Riley Moss has probably been the

965
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 6: most penalized corner in the entire league and trying to

966
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 6: just like you know, fight and die on every snap

967
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 6: to try to just contain and the penalties have cost

968
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 6: them were This is still one of the better defenses

969
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 6: and certainly is defending the explosive pass really well and

970
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 6: statistically is still among the top in limiting points and

971
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 6: is not one of the top success rate secondaries in

972
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 6: the NFL. They do get one or two of these

973
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 6: costly penalties per game that puts them in a very

974
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 6: parious position, and so I think that that's my one

975
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,959
Speaker 6: big thing. My big colleague in Denver, Nick Cosmider, thinks

976
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 6: that Pat certain will return this week. Obviously, it's been

977
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 6: a situation where he's going from week to week to

978
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 6: day to day and making getting ready to make his return.

979
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 6: But that is my major moment that could either blow

980
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 6: our minds or there's going to be a penalty somewhere

981
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 6: that will also blow our minds.

982
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: And the Commander's offense should get Terry McLaurin back. It

983
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: sounds like finally this week, and they've been up for

984
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: the challenge Mariota. Considering the injuries, they're a totally respectable offense.

985
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: The problem is, like an average offense against this defense

986
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: is is a mismatch, and then on the other side,

987
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: every offense looks awesome against the Commanders and bo Nicks

988
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: I think has played better as the season of warn On.

989
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: He's coming off of bye week, he's coming off what

990
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: I thought was his best performance of the season against

991
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs.

992
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: So you just want.

993
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: Them with a real chance to get the one seed

994
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: here at some point down the stretch. If they can

995
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: play consistently on offense, well.

996
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 8: They're gonna be able to run the ball too. I mean,

997
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 8: the one thing you know, dan Quinn couldn't fix is

998
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 8: their edge. Their perimeter defense is just I don't understand

999
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 8: why it's so undisciplined.

1000
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 5: We saw, like the Bears game. You think about that

1001
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 5: Monday night game, but.

1002
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 8: This off tackle off tackle, sweet, they're just gallating. Dan

1003
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 8: Quinn takes over the play called same thing happens so undisciplined.

1004
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 8: They decided when they built their front this year, we're

1005
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 8: gonna build it to stop teams on first down. Right,

1006
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 8: We're not gonna nessarly get an edge guy to be

1007
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 8: able to hold the edge and lock guys up or

1008
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 8: get a pass pressure presence.

1009
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 5: And it has not worked.

1010
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 8: Well for them, you know, especially because they're linebackers. They're

1011
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 8: playing our guy Frankie louvill Louvu out of position, right,

1012
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 8: he's playing more on the outside the teams know he's

1013
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 8: so aggressive, We're going to use his aggressiveness against him,

1014
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 8: and so that's what Sean Payton's going to They're probably

1015
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 8: gonna screen him the death.

1016
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 5: Again, Sean Payton loves the screen game more than Andy Reid.

1017
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 8: But do some stuff like that and they're gonna run

1018
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 8: the ball and it's it's so well, I'm interese if

1019
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 8: Denver's offense can finally get on track.

1020
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a game, especially.

1021
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 8: Running the ball and with Boennick's dual with thread ability

1022
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 8: to where they can really get into a rhythm to

1023
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 8: get things going down the stretch.

1024
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 7: Well, especially if the secondary for the Commanders, they're banged

1025
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 7: up right now. I don't know what the where the

1026
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 7: injury report is going to be by the end of

1027
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 7: the week, but I mean, Marshaun Lattimore Tree amos like

1028
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 7: this is a spot where Bonicks.

1029
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: Should be able to show.

1030
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 7: Everyone that he can get into a rhythm, like this

1031
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 7: is a nice spot for him, and if he doesn't

1032
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 7: show that then that's kind of a concern.

1033
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: And either are two quarterbacks at least the last time

1034
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: they played were like nails on third and lock Mariota

1035
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: is amazing and Matrade on third lock and Nicks was

1036
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: pretty great against the Broncos. I think that was an

1037
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: important game for him. One thing we haven't hit on

1038
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: the show though, is like Jacob Dobbins is not coming

1039
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: back for this Broncos season, and I do think that's

1040
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: an important part of their team. And I am curious,

1041
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: if you know, RGI Harvey, like can their running game

1042
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 1: be consistent enough, because you kind of think bo Nicks

1043
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: needs a running game.

1044
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 6: One percent think that he needs a running game, and

1045
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 6: I think that steadies him because he can be really

1046
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 6: erratic sometimes to quarter to quarter and I'd like to

1047
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 6: see a complete game from him.

1048
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: I think we got one, by the way. I do

1049
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: think that Chiefs game.

1050
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 6: Was a yeah, that Mails that was his by far

1051
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 6: his best game of the season and really impressive building block,

1052
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 6: especially time the timing of it when it happened.

1053
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: R J.

1054
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 6: Harvey, it is curious a lot of teams will come out,

1055
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 6: you know, out of the buy and they'll really show

1056
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 6: what they've decided they're going to be for the rest

1057
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 6: of the season, and it has to be r J.

1058
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 5: Harvey.

1059
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 6: This offensive line is really slept on. I think is

1060
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 6: one of the best in football. So you have the

1061
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 6: tools there. You have a quarterback who obviously is comfortable

1062
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 6: with deploying and settled within a run game. Uh design

1063
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 6: and run game right, and also can move a little

1064
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 6: bit too to help set things up against the defense.

1065
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 6: And so I think that this has to be what

1066
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 6: have you built around and through?

1067
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 7: R J.

1068
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 6: Harvey, a guy who Sean Payton was super high on

1069
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 6: has remained super high on. Now let's see what you

1070
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 6: can buy.

1071
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 8: And I think Harvey's gonna be fine. People say, like,

1072
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 8: he's not the biggest dude, he ate the smallest dude either.

1073
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 5: He's gonna be fine.

1074
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, John Payton was Sean Payton loves a small run

1075
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 7: about like he loves a shortcake.

1076
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 6: R J.

1077
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: Harvey not the biggest dude, but not the smallest dude.

1078
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: I love that.

1079
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: Let's take one more break and we will wrap up

1080
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: the Week thirteen slate and just a few It's a

1081
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:45,000
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1082
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Speaker 1: And so the Thanksgiving fields, actually, Colleen's got to be

1095
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: here Thanksgiving morning. You're right, I don't know what those

1096
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: fields are anyways. You must have played some some Thanksgiving

1097
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: games back in the day high school football.

1098
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 5: No, oh, we never. We never had a Turkey Day game.

1099
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Speaker 5: We knew we didn't have arrival, we didn't have a rival.

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00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: Interesting game.

1101
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 6: Huh.

1102
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 8: I was only the eighth graduating class high school back

1103
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 8: in Manchester, Missouri, where it was so out in the

1104
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 8: middle of nowhere.

1105
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 5: We didn't even have lights. We played our games on

1106
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 5: Saturday afternoon.

1107
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: That is wild.

1108
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 5: How about that not quite eight man football?

1109
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: I do remember like a snowy thanks Giving, like a

1110
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: snow where we all went out and played, you know,

1111
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: played football in the snow.

1112
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, same level of skill. I'm sure.

1113
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Steve's no, I'm saying that that's what it's for.

1114
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: Look the Giants, they've had a bad season, but they

1115
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: have come together the last few weeks on offense and

1116
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: been fun to watch. And I've got the Giants Patriots.

1117
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: The Patriots are favored by seven and a half. I've

1118
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: noticed that number has gone significantly down, which makes sense

1119
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: to me.

1120
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 2: I think it started at like ten or something crazy

1121
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: like that.

1122
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: Here's a statup that'll blow your mind about the Patriots.

1123
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: I've actually got two the Patriots and this is from

1124
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: Tom Kerr and listening to his podcast, and he went

1125
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: through all the numbers and I'm boiling it down. They're

1126
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: almost as likely to concert convert a third and ten

1127
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: through fifteen this season as they are to convert a

1128
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: third and one or two.

1129
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: That's how good Drake may has been on third and long.

1130
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: And how bad they have been running the They've been

1131
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: a terrible running team, by the way, all year. It's

1132
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: slipped under their track. Here's another one for you, and

1133
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: this is about how teams change during the season.

1134
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: Run defense.

1135
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about, Oh the run defense, great, their run

1136
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: defense great last three weeks, not against the greatest teams

1137
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: in the world, included the Jets and the Bengals. They

1138
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: are dead last in the league in success rate allowed

1139
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: in terms of their running games. So can the Patriots

1140
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 1: be good enough upfront on both sides of the ball

1141
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: to win this game? Forget about even before that. I

1142
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: think to win this game because you know, what the

1143
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: Giants have is a dangerous defensive line and a really

1144
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: good offensive line. It's actually, I think a top ten

1145
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: offensive line despite their record.

1146
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: I think it's a tough matchup.

1147
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 5: Their defensive line just get gosh.

1148
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: They stink against the run, but a lot of talent

1149
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: they do. But that's weakness on weakness. They're one of

1150
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: the worst run defenses ever. But you can't say a

1151
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: defensive line with Dexter, Lawrence and Carter and Burns are

1152
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: a weakness at least against the pass.

1153
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, it's against.

1154
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 5: The that's fair hundred plus they get moved.

1155
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: I'm just saying this is an opportunity here for the Giant.

1156
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 5: It is an opportunity.

1157
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 2: It's their super Bowl.

1158
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 8: Jackson Dark could be back, but we don't want to

1159
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 8: see Jackson Dark. We want to see Jamis.

1160
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 2: It's true, he's so fun.

1161
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 5: We want to look this is This is why.

1162
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 8: I think that's an interesting point because I've said for

1163
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 8: New England their toughest thing is winning the games that

1164
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 8: now they're supposed to win, so to speak, because they've

1165
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 8: got the Week fourteen by, like just survive until you

1166
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 8: get there, and I think that's where they are.

1167
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 5: I think a little bit.

1168
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, I like that Week fourteen Bye is a killer man.

1169
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 8: You see so many of these teams with the Week

1170
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 8: fourteen by thinks the forty nine ers on a Week

1171
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 8: fourteen by, which is why Christian McCaffrey having eight hundred

1172
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 8: touches already is insane before getting a breather. How well

1173
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 8: he's taking care of himself. But if they can get

1174
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 8: to the buy and get a win here, however they

1175
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 8: get it, you know, takeaways, whatever however they get it,

1176
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 8: they are set up very nicely to not only get

1177
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 8: into the playoffs, but to win the division, have the

1178
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 8: one seeds to playoffs, going back.

1179
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 5: Through Foxborough and then being able to make some noise.

1180
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: But here's the thing I guess I'm worried about more

1181
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: long term. They could have Will Campbell their left tackle

1182
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: and Jared Wilson their left guard back this season, but

1183
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: it sounds like the two of them are going to

1184
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: be out, you know, at least a multiple games.

1185
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 2: Campbell might go.

1186
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 5: The E fourteen might be a blessing.

1187
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: And they haven't had injuries and Wilton Milton Williams, they

1188
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: have not had the same run defense according to those

1189
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: stats or pass rush four man pass rush since Milton

1190
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 1: Williams got hurt.

1191
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, oh your guy. Well, they're all your guys.

1192
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: I was like, is he I love him? Yeah?

1193
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 4: Everyone everyone.

1194
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 2: Right.

1195
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 6: No, I think that on the show in previous years,

1196
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 6: you guys used to always talk about like burserker teams

1197
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 6: and like who could be potentially so dangerous when you

1198
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 6: get into the postseason, and the Patriots, to me, are

1199
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 6: are that team?

1200
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 3: Like like you guys have I.

1201
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: Thought you're going to say the Giants kind of late

1202
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: this season, no pop up and win a game like this,

1203
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: but they almost they should have last.

1204
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 6: The Giants are a sinking ship in the sense that

1205
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 6: people keep getting thrown off the side to try to

1206
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 6: lighten the.

1207
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 4: Load a little bit, or we stopped the.

1208
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so we have to remember, like Mike Kofka, is,

1209
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 6: and rightfully so he should be doing this is just

1210
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 6: going to go out and try stuff and put good

1211
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 6: tape out there, and he should That's absolutely what he

1212
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 6: should be doing, and trying to figure out how to

1213
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 6: maximize what he does have and who he still has

1214
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 6: on this roster. The problem is a team like New

1215
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 6: England did not necessarily expect to be here this early

1216
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 6: in their rebuild process. But they have the quarterback and

1217
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 6: they built the overall, they made some really good decisions

1218
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 6: to not only shed previous players but also bring in,

1219
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 6: whether by financially or by draft, a new wave, a

1220
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 6: new era of culture for Mike Vrabel and roster talent.

1221
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 6: And I think that when you are earlier than expected

1222
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 6: now you shift into take care of the people you're

1223
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 6: supposed to take care of. And that's a very business

1224
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 6: like thing. Rabel's been through it. For I fully expect

1225
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 6: that kind of a game from the Patriots.

1226
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I look at just the Patriots offensive line though,

1227
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 7: Like for me, it's just all about the Patriots offensive

1228
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 7: line and this Giant's pass rush that how that kind

1229
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 7: of pans out. But then also if the Patriots they're

1230
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 7: running backs, if they can be effective in this game

1231
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 7: because of what we were just talking about with the

1232
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 7: Giants porous run defense.

1233
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I just.

1234
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 8: Say, Patriots all beat themselves. I mean they've gone back

1235
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 8: to being that team where they're so sound in every aspect.

1236
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 8: Regardless of how beat up they are, they're going to

1237
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 8: give themselves a shot.

1238
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have passed all these tests all year against

1239
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: the inferior teams. By the way, just because we missed

1240
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: it and I was watching that Giants game on Monday

1241
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: and it was just so much fun. Let's just watch

1242
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: one more Jamis Winston. I'm officially nominating this throw because

1243
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: we didn't mention it. It was the third and thirteen

1244
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: throw late in the game, up three, third and seventeen

1245
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: rather where he gets out of the sack, points to

1246
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: the receiver and drops a dime down the field to

1247
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: THEO Johnson as a Throw of the Year nominee, just

1248
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 1: to have Jamison.

1249
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 5: Shit did get take the hit, bump into his lineman

1250
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 5: and then rips it. This is arm. He didn't step

1251
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 5: into that. He rips that too many.

1252
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: They outplayed the Lions if it wasn't for the craziest

1253
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: fifty nine yard field goal which started in then went

1254
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: out and somehow went back in. It was like an

1255
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what the heck happened, and

1256
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: they lost.

1257
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 4: It entered a portal.

1258
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 3: It reminded me of like a baseball pitch.

1259
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, amazing.

1260
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get back on check. I apologize I had

1261
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: forgotten about that wins thing.

1262
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 2: Weis.

1263
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: We got the Chargers, we got the Raiders, the Chargers

1264
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: producer favored by ten.

1265
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 5: Who are you ready?

1266
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 8: The Los Angeles I'm sorry, the Los Angeles Chargers. It

1267
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,479
Speaker 8: gets the Las Vegas Raiders. The Chargers will hold those

1268
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 8: awesome now offensive coordinator list Raiders to fewer than one

1269
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 8: hundred and seven five total yards.

1270
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 5: I like this.

1271
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 8: Okay, so now greg Olsen, okay, got plenty of the

1272
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 8: dude is the ultimate survivor.

1273
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 5: Man.

1274
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 8: This guy's coach for not the broadcaster. Not the broadcaster

1275
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 8: is going to be calling the plays. Doesn't matter, does

1276
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 8: not matter. The charges are coming off of Bye, They've

1277
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 8: got an incredible defense. Twuly two, yep below two who

1278
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 8: were not talking about it's got eight sacks. Liil Mack

1279
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 8: has been dominant when he's now that he's back healthy,

1280
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 8: and the Raiders offensive line is the worst offensive line

1281
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 8: hype scene. They are in they are in turnstyle protection.

1282
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 8: They're in turnstyle run blocking mode. Like Austin Janti, who

1283
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 8: I'm a little more luke warmond than a lot of people,

1284
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 8: has not had an opportunity to run the ball because

1285
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 8: he's getting the offensive line reset. Gino smith Is is

1286
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 8: shell shocked as I've ever seen a veteran quarterback be

1287
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 8: because he's getting knocked around and with the smoke that

1288
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 8: the Chargers are going to bring in this game on him,

1289
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 8: they're going to heat him up because he's got no receivers.

1290
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 2: It's Steve.

1291
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you say the offensive lineup maybe any position group

1292
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: on the team is like it's as it's the most important.

1293
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: How well they're coached? Yes, and who is their coach?

1294
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 5: Speak? Girl's son is the offensive line coach? He survived.

1295
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: Case wow at.

1296
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 8: Least a week eighteen, because I do think there's gonna

1297
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 8: be some significant changes there.

1298
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's no dope. You can't fire your son that

1299
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 2: Some things in life are more important.

1300
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 3: Not before the holidays.

1301
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if he's going to get fired anyways,

1302
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: you don't fire your son. You know, if your pete Cara,

1303
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: You'd much rather just get fired than fire your son.

1304
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: You got the rest of your life to worry.

1305
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 6: He has been distancing himself like his own participation in

1306
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 6: the offense since the second week of the season, when

1307
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 6: he's up at the lectern talking about how surprised he.

1308
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 5: Is every week though, and also and also how we.

1309
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 6: Have to run the ball more and I'm not sure

1310
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 6: why we're not running the ball more, and we need

1311
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 6: to do this, and very pointed commentary.

1312
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 4: You can't separate yourself from someone you.

1313
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 5: Share DNA with.

1314
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 3: It's part of the problem. Come on, But I don't

1315
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: know why he's so.

1316
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 7: He's saying that he's surprised is actually sounding way worse,

1317
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 7: like Yes, even if you are surprised, don't tell anyone.

1318
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 5: That a halftime interview defense is a play, are you well?

1319
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: I think they thought they would be competitive this year.

1320
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 5: We I thought they would be competitive.

1321
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 2: We fell for it somewhat.

1322
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 4: I thought this offense would be way better than it is.

1323
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: And this is a tough match up because the Chargers

1324
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: have had a trend this year. They have played with

1325
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: their hair on fire at home. Everyone gets on the Chargers'

1326
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: home crowd, and they have not been as good on

1327
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: the road at all. They haven't really shown up for

1328
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: these East Coast trips. Well this is coming off of

1329
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: buye at home.

1330
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 5: They w l A is kind of a home game

1331
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 5: too though.

1332
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 2: I mean sure, but just just getting on a plane

1333
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: has been bad for them for whatever reason.

1334
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 6: And you know what, I was there in Vegas for

1335
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 6: that early matchup between two teams, and I will say

1336
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 6: that that was some of the best defensive football I've

1337
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 6: seen all year. And yes we knew, we did not

1338
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 6: know at the time just how bad this Raiders offense

1339
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 6: was going to be. But the way that those Chargers

1340
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 6: defenders sat in their zones and Gino Smith was like

1341
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 6: pressing way too hard to try to make a big

1342
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 6: play happen.

1343
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 4: And the entire Diane.

1344
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,479
Speaker 6: Henley had an insane flu game and like the entire

1345
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 6: talk of the locker rooms after was like you play

1346
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 6: this type of zone against Gino right now? Because the

1347
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 6: black Bowers wasn't on the field, and then there what

1348
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 6: he was but one legged right, and then there was

1349
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 6: like the other receivers had not emerged and he was

1350
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 6: just pressing it and Jant wasn't running the ball. So

1351
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 6: it's all the same problems, so I expect the same outcome.

1352
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 3: Do you guys remember when Gino Smith was on Quarterback Island, we.

1353
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: Do one minute we do? He finished last year Hurts

1354
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 2: did not get ripped tid I've got it and get ripped.

1355
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 6: He did get ripped tided on and it was referred

1356
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 6: to as a ripcord incorrectly.

1357
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: And also the rule was all shout out to all

1358
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: of us who are getting royalties. The Quarterback Island season two,

1359
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: episode three has gone down as one of the most

1360
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: listened to shows we've ever had daily, so the bonus

1361
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: checks they're coming soon.

1362
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Speaker 3: Crowd my god.

1363
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: Also our producer Drew in addition to our producer Eric,

1364
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: we got multiple producers today. But he's a Raiders fan

1365
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: by gret Yeah, well he's the only one with a mic.

1366
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: Drew points out, one hundred and seventy five yards would

1367
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: not be a season low for the Raiders. They had

1368
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: a ninety five yards against the Chiefs.

1369
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 9: Uh.

1370
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Speaker 1: That was the game where I said they should call

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01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: their offense that I don't even want to be around

1372
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: here anymore.

1373
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 5: The offense, I.

1374
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 8: Mean that means there's like a lot of sacks they got.

1375
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 8: What do you got sacked ten times. I just hate

1376
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 8: to say they might get double duty.

1377
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 3: Show a look on Gino's face.

1378
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 7: It's like a ten thousand yard stare and the camera

1379
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 7: they go real tight on his face, and it's just like,

1380
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 7: I don't I he needs a hut.

1381
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: I need Gino as like as like the backup. I

1382
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: need it, like the backup to Jared Goff next here.

1383
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: Just put him like on a good organization where he's

1384
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: a clear backup and finish out the career that way.

1385
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 2: He is getting up there. I think thirty six this year.

1386
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: Jordan Jacksonville favored six and a half point favorites in Tennessee,

1387
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: where Cam Worden's coming off a good game.

1388
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, one thing that will blow your mind. It's more

1389
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 4: of a fact.

1390
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: Right.

1391
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 6: It's nineteen seventy seven deep in the Nordic country of Finland.

1392
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 6: The snowfalls, but the athletes must train. The members of

1393
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 6: the Finnish national cross country skiing team prepare for their

1394
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 6: most arduous mileage of that week's program, bracing for the

1395
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 6: bitter cold hit, burning hamstrings, quads and glutes. A man

1396
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 6: is at practice that day. He says his name is

1397
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 6: Professor Sepo Sanya Kanya so sorry, and he wants the

1398
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 6: athletes to wear two piece device that he's recently invented

1399
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 6: as they ski that day's course. He says it will

1400
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 6: change their training.

1401
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 3: It does.

1402
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 6: This professor founds a company that mass produces the device,

1403
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 6: and that device changes the world of athletics and casual

1404
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 6: wellness monitoring forever. And if you are watching the Jacksonville

1405
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 6: Jaguars play football at any point in the twenty twenty

1406
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 6: five season, you should be wearing this this professor's device too.

1407
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 4: It's the heart rate monitor.

1408
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 6: Invented I thought it was under armed nineteen seventy seven,

1409
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 6: and it's readout during Jacksonville Jaguars games will make you

1410
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 6: look like you've survived a Oh wow, earthquake.

1411
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 5: I believe it.

1412
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 6: This is their win loss probability chart from just last week,

1413
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 6: which reflects Trevor is what these guys do during these games.

1414
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,479
Speaker 5: That's the Trevor Lawrence. That's heart rate monitor.

1415
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking about during Monday night football.

1416
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: And I feel bad for Troy and Joe because there's

1417
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: been a lot of snoozers on Monday night, and I

1418
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: was thinking, can we even just get like a Jaguars

1419
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: Cardinals round. You know how fun that would have been

1420
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football to watch that game in primetime

1421
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: because that was US and the Jaguars are delivering there.

1422
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 7: I mean, I was like a little I did to

1423
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 7: go lone wolf for the Cardinals in that game, So

1424
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 7: I was a little disappointed.

1425
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 3: But listen, this is a I don't know how you.

1426
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 7: Can keep going like this as a Jags fan, Like,

1427
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 7: I want to just check on everyone in ball and

1428
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 7: make sure that you're okay because looking at the heart

1429
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 7: rate monitor, looking at the graph, it's tough. It's been

1430
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,479
Speaker 7: all over the place, and that game was hard to watch,

1431
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 7: but it was fun. I can't imagine, though, if you're

1432
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 7: in Duval sitting there watching it.

1433
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 5: I'll take that every game though, I'll take that.

1434
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence so I liked afterwards where he was like,

1435
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: I don't want it to change the way I played,

1436
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, yeah, but you don't normally play

1437
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: that way. He had some incredible throws in that game.

1438
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: They also used him as a runner pretty aggressively. I

1439
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: thought they changed you know, early in the game, they

1440
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: made a point to have him carry the ball. He

1441
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: was scrammed and every big mistake that he made. He

1442
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: followed it up with some incredible dimes to him. I

1443
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: need a little bit more of that. I'll take that

1444
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: version that, like jamisified version of Trevor versus the guy

1445
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: I've seen most of the year where you know, you

1446
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: see the flashes.

1447
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, but and here here's the other thing. He's playing

1448
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 8: a team this week in Tennessee. We can see all

1449
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 8: we want about him.

1450
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 5: They are gonna make life hard for them if you watch,

1451
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 5: if you are brave enough to watch.

1452
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 4: A Titan game, I said this last week here.

1453
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 5: They are a difficult team.

1454
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 8: And I've watched him for three straight weeks now closely,

1455
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 8: and it is penalties that take them out of every game.

1456
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 5: Cam Ward will make a.

1457
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 8: Beautiful throw, they'll get a thirty yard game and it'll

1458
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 8: get called back for a hold. Defensively, they'll make a

1459
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 8: great stop and they'll have some type of personal file

1460
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 8: away from the ball that gives the other team a

1461
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 8: first down. So this is a team, So that heart

1462
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 8: rate monitor, it's going to be just like that again.

1463
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 8: And well, great story. I thought we were going girl

1464
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 8: with the dragon tattoo.

1465
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,439
Speaker 4: When you pronounced the names, I went down a real

1466
01:06:58,600 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 4: rabbit hole. Yesterday.

1467
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I love that.

1468
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 4: It's some deep research here.

1469
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: The Jags are one of the teams that are up

1470
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: there too in penalties for the season, so maybe they

1471
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: could maybe that'll cancel each.

1472
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:09,919
Speaker 2: Other out a long game.

1473
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: Look, watching the Jags receiver group last week, it was

1474
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:14,959
Speaker 1: like the most that made sense all season because Brenton

1475
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: Stranger is back and he is awesome. Parker Washington has

1476
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: become a really good player for them. Jacoby Myers fits

1477
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: right in, and you're thinking, like, this group weirdly makes

1478
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: more sense without Brian Thomas Junior and Travis Hunner on

1479
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: the field. I think Brian Thomas Junior will be additive

1480
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: when he does come back from his injury, but the

1481
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: crew that they have out there now is working.

1482
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 6: I don't know that Liam Cohen agrees with you about

1483
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 6: Brian Thomas Junior, and.

1484
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 2: That's bad coaching.

1485
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 6: Well, he's an incredible player, don't like, let me not

1486
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 6: remove any of that from him. But it is this

1487
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 6: is a team where all season to start, we've been

1488
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 6: waiting for them to establish and show what their identity

1489
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 6: was actually going to be in the passing game. And

1490
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 6: I said it a couple of weeks ago that I

1491
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 6: think that, first of all, Jacob Meyers coming in is

1492
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 6: a huge value ad for them because he's a veteran

1493
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 6: and he knows where to be and you saw this, yes,

1494
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,959
Speaker 6: and he's running some of the concepts that they're trying

1495
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 6: to send Brian Thomas Junior and Travis Hunter on and

1496
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 6: he was making them come to life very successfully.

1497
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 4: Ian Rampaport reported a couple last week.

1498
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 6: I believe that they still plan to play Travis Hunter

1499
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 6: on both sides of the ball, and I think that's fine,

1500
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 6: especially when you have this other identity of receivers where

1501
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 6: you're not going to have to force him into any

1502
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 6: sort of position.

1503
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 8: Parker Washington not you know his sister works on scouting

1504
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 8: staff for the Chicago Bears. No way, she's a personal

1505
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 8: evaluator for that.

1506
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 2: That's cool.

1507
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:40,799
Speaker 3: Look at that Fountain.

1508
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bears could have used them. They should

1509
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: have listened to her. I'm sure she was saying, my

1510
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: bro's good play, good ballplayer.

1511
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 2: We're going to wrap up.

1512
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 4: We should be on this show because we love confirming

1513
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 4: our prior.

1514
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf, you've got the Cardinals going to Tampa right now.

1515
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 1: The Bucks are only favored by three, which I think

1516
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: reflects the uncertainty regarding Baker Mayfield's left shoulder. It's too

1517
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: early to say, but the fact that they keep saying

1518
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: he's got a sounds like he's got a decent chance

1519
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: to play, unless they're trying to head fake us right.

1520
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 7: Which that I kind of was like, am I getting

1521
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,520
Speaker 7: the head fake here? Because seeing Baker on the sideline

1522
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 7: in the sling during the game kind of felt a

1523
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 7: little more serious than being able to come right back.

1524
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 7: But it is his non throwing shoulder, though. The mechanics

1525
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,679
Speaker 7: of it all play together. So for this game, Bucky

1526
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 7: Irvin returns for the Bucks to help a one armed

1527
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 7: Baker Mayfield fire the cannons. Just as the Bucks look

1528
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 7: like they're going to end a three game losing streak,

1529
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 7: the Cardinals defense comes up with a huge takeaway, a

1530
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 7: game winning scoop and score after Irving puts the ball on.

1531
01:09:55,880 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 5: Oh no, identify the fourth loss four?

1532
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 2: Maybe another Walter Nolen touchdown the vision.

1533
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 7: But it's and it spoils the return for Bucky Irving,

1534
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 7: which they've absolutely needed and they've missed him so much,

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01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 7: and he plays really well in this game.

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01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 3: I think here's here's because Baker needs to lean on him.

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01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 8: Okay, so here's something with Carolina losing, Carolina facing the Rams,

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01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 8: and there's Carolina.

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01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 5: Schedule is about to get brutal.

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01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 8: Do you go with Teddy Bridgewater with a full weekend

1541
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 8: starters practice in a game like this.

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01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 5: At home? Right the game is at Tampa Bay.

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01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 8: I mean, Teddy Bee is more than capable of holding

1544
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 8: it down. Or because they haven't played well? Do you

1545
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 8: push Baker because Baker is going to push himself to play.

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01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 6: I think you because when Baker is playing well, he

1548
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,879
Speaker 6: elevates this offense. As hamstrung as it is with injuries

1549
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 6: and everything, He's elevated this offense when he's playing well.

1550
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 6: He hasn't been playing well, let's be clear on that.

1551
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 6: But Teddy, they just this pass rush for Arizona is

1552
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 6: not going to be the same as what the Ram brought.

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01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 6: But it was hard to watch Bridgewater come in and

1554
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,560
Speaker 6: get sort of mauled the way that that he was.

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01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 6: And this Bucks offensive line, it's it's very, very good.

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01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 6: But again, it's very clear that there's this sort of

1557
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 6: synchronosity with Baker specifically and some of the things that

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01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 6: they do with this offense that it's like, not only

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01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 6: will he push to play, but I do think that

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01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 6: you just have to like roll him, roll with him

1561
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 6: for the rest of the season and try to save yeah,

1562
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 6: and try to save your season.

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01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 5: Roll with him.

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01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: As Steve makes an injection motion.

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01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 5: We were covered by video team.

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01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Craig.

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01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 6: Once again, Greg's blown up the group chat today, He's

1568
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 6: blown up.

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01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 3: Don't you want to save him from himself a little bit?

1570
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 6: Though?

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01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 4: There too, he does not want to be saved and

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01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 4: he doesn't want to be saved.

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01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: No, he played poorly through this injury in Cleveland, So

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01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what that if that's a good thing

1576
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: or not. And I want to believe what you're saying

1577
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: in Teddy Bridgewater, But he hasn't played football like he's

1578
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: been on teams except for last year when he was

1579
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 1: coaching high school football, right, but he has not actually

1580
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: played any football in the NFL since twenty twenty two.

1581
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: And he did not look like the same old Teddy

1582
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 2: last week.

1583
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 8: I mean, then let's go to the old thing we

1584
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 8: were saying when shoot work came in. Any I think

1585
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,560
Speaker 8: that he hasn't practiced.

1586
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 6: Hereon thinking first that would help great The thing that

1587
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 6: I think disappoints me most about the Bucks is because

1588
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 6: you can understand some of the things that are happening

1589
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 6: on offense. The quarterback hasn't been playing well, then got injured,

1590
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 6: and then also they're dealing with injuries everywhere right on defense. Yes,

1591
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 6: they have also dealt with injuries throughout the course of

1592
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 6: this season. They were without their top corner last week,

1593
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 6: but they are It's weird you look at like True

1594
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 6: Media and Next Gen and they're still ranked so highly

1595
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 6: statistically until you pull the curtain back a little bit

1596
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 6: more and you look at the last few weeks and

1597
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 6: how susceptible they have been on the ground and through

1598
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,759
Speaker 6: the air to the explosive plays. It is the Bills

1599
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 6: the Pats, like they could get twenty plus ten plus

1600
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 6: yards runs, twenty plus yards passes, and they were exposed

1601
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 6: in that way. They can they can contain the meat

1602
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 6: and potatoes type of stuff, but they are so vulnerable

1603
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 6: to explosive run or pass.

1604
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 5: The explosive runs blowing my mind.

1605
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 8: I'm stuff that people are moving those guys up front

1606
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 8: and they're getting gas.

1607
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they still rank like in the top ten.

1608
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: They don't have to worry about that this week. That's

1609
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: what they don't have to worry about that this week.

1610
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: The Cardinals are the most pass heavy team in the league.

1611
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: And it's not just about getting blown out, because last

1612
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: week was close the whole time, and they just they

1613
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: were like, we can't run the ball, so we're gonna

1614
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: let Jacoby Brissett slang it. One of my favorite plays

1615
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: of the season is actually a play where they dribble

1616
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: the ball and shotgun to Jacoby Brissett like it's a

1617
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 1: bad snap and he's backing up with his eyes up.

1618
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: He is such a professional. The ball's on the ground

1619
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: and he's figuring. I can look he's trying to watch

1620
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: the pass rush while the ball is like rolling into

1621
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: his arms and he's like dribbling and he eventually gets

1622
01:13:58,360 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: it up and like gets rid.

1623
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 5: Of the ball. What that wasn't the first time he's

1624
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 5: done it.

1625
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 2: I think that's absolutely right.

1626
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 1: And you know what, he's just given me great vibes

1627
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: back there, given Michael Wilson a chance. Michael Wilson has

1628
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: made himself some money the last couple of weeks, and

1629
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: it's like it's almost awkward, you know, how is he

1630
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: he's having better.

1631
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 2: Games than we've ever seen out of Marvin Harrison Jr.

1632
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 2: Just saying what are you saying? Just saying it so

1633
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, that's interesting.

1634
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 6: Okay, he's noticing interesting, he's noticing it's on the radar.

1635
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:30,959
Speaker 2: Poor Cardinals.

1636
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 6: I know. You look at the NFC standings, they're three

1637
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 6: three and three of the four NFC West teams are

1638
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 6: in the playoffs if the season ended today, and then

1639
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 6: down at the.

1640
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 8: Bottom it's the card And it's crazy because I don't

1641
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 8: think there's anybody who says Jonathan Gannon can't coach.

1642
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 4: No, he can coach.

1643
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 6: No.

1644
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: They're just good enough to get beat like in a close,

1645
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: heartbreaking game most weeks.

1646
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 5: You know.

1647
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: We we like confirming our priors. Sometimes it doesn't work

1648
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 2: out for us.

1649
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: We talked a lot about the Arizona Cardinals this off season,

1650
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: and we talked about them very positively.

1651
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 4: Conceptually, they make so much sense.

1652
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 7: Still, I've had two people this week who I've just

1653
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 7: in casual conversation asked them who their team is and

1654
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 7: they both said, oh, I don't really like I just

1655
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 7: I love football. I don't really have a specific team.

1656
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 7: And I'm like, like, you never had a team before,

1657
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 7: like growing up or anything. Well, the Cardinals, they were

1658
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 7: both they both had the same story, and I'm like, oh,

1659
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 7: that's what happens.

1660
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 2: They bailed you guys, that's what happens. It happened.

1661
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 6: I never even I bailed so girl, Yeah, I bailed

1662
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 6: back when they were in bleacher seats at sun Devil Stadium.

1663
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what happened when they were the

1664
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: Chicago Cardinals to the same last name owning the team.

1665
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 5: I never attached him when they were in Saint Louis.

1666
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: Guy, what a time inside the Chris Wesley podcast studio.

1667
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 1: We've done it, and I love you guys, and I

1668
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: hope you guys have a great Thanksgiving. You guys, Happy

1669
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving to everyone out there too.

1670
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 2: Get out of here.

1671
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 6: Have some full yes, yeah, any kind of show, any

1672
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 6: kind of souper, it'll be good.

1673
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 4: Good soup is good.

1674
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 1: I want some of our listeners to go down the

1675
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,839
Speaker 1: rankings and tell us who had the best.

1676
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 2: You know, lobster at six, all of that.

1677
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean, By the way, we'll be back on NFL

1678
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 1: Daily myself, Will Gavin, and Allie Connolly wrapping up all

1679
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving games and block Friday that I'll go up

1680
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 1: on Friday evening.

1681
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 2: We'll see you then. Happy Thanksgiving,