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Speaker 1: They is One Bills Live, presented by Called Light of Health.

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Speaker 1: All Right, welcome into a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve tasker with you and right out of

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Speaker 1: the shoot, Steve, there is new Bills news to discuss

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Speaker 1: as the Bills have once again added to their offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Earlier in free agency, they had their most significant free

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Speaker 1: agent signing in terms of dollars and cents, signing cowboy

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Speaker 1: free agent guard Connor McGovern to a three year deal. Today,

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Speaker 1: they have signed former Rams offensive lineman David Edwards to

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Speaker 1: a one year deal. A guard by trade at least

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Speaker 1: in terms of his NFL career. Four year starter for

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Speaker 1: the Rams, including a start in the Super Bowl in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, only played in four games last year due

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Speaker 1: to a concussion that landed him on injured reserve. He

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Speaker 1: was originally designated to return, but never did last season.

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Speaker 1: Injuries abounded up and down the offensive line for the

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Speaker 1: Rams last year, which largely compromised the effectiveness of their offense.

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Speaker 1: But this is a young veteran Steve that has a

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Speaker 1: multitude of playing experience and you know played his college

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Speaker 1: American there so pretty good competition to bring in. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Steve, but I'm sensing a

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Speaker 1: shift in what the Bills are adding to their offensive

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Speaker 1: line and free agency the last few years, last couple

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Speaker 1: of years, I should say, they've been older free agent

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Speaker 1: players added, you know, like David Quessenberry on the other

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Speaker 1: guys that have been added to the full Greg Van

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Speaker 1: Roten last year, you know, over thirty years of age,

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Speaker 1: David Edwards younger veteran. Same thing with Connor McGovern, younger

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Speaker 1: veteran player. So I'm sensing a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: shift here in terms of all of the qualities they're

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Speaker 1: looking for an offensive lineman to add to the fold. Here.

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Speaker 1: He started virtually every game of his career except the

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Speaker 1: ones he missed last year with injury him he's up

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Speaker 1: till then he played every down As a fifth round

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Speaker 1: draft pick, he came out and was plugged into their

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Speaker 1: he forty five starts out of fifty three possible games.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good stretch and obviously has the World Championship,

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Speaker 1: was there with von Miller. Let's not forget that a

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Speaker 1: former teammate of Vaughans. So bring something to the table.

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Speaker 1: Big dude six five three bills plus, so he's you know,

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Speaker 1: he kind of fits those parameters that the Bills look for.

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Speaker 1: He's six six three o eight listed. Yeah, that's it's

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Speaker 1: starting to see. I see a trend with the Bills

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Speaker 1: signing into your offensive lineman. Um, I love I love it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's great. It's right where they need to be.

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Speaker 1: And as much talk as we've talked about the you know,

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Speaker 1: weapons and adding weapons out there, man, getting that offensive

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Speaker 1: line settled in with some competition and some guys who

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Speaker 1: with some youth and some some motivation really speaks well.

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Speaker 1: I think. Yeah. And you're gonna want to stay tuned

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Speaker 1: because we're expecting to get Buffalo's newest signy on the

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Speaker 1: air here in about ten fifty minutes time. We'll be

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Speaker 1: speaking with David Edwards. He is not here in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: if you want to hear from the newest Bills offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: about ten fifteen minutes time, so we look forward to

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Speaker 1: that discussion with him. I think the other important thing

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Speaker 1: the ground running here in Buffalo because Buffalo's offensive line coach,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Kromer was his offensive line coach for the first

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Speaker 1: two seasons of his NFL career in LA. So this

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Speaker 1: is a guy that knows the blocking techniques that Aaron

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Speaker 1: to me because Cromer has been you know, he came

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Speaker 1: I believe because he was a rookie in nineteen when

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Speaker 1: Certainly Chromer is not sitting over there saying, don't bring

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Speaker 1: Chromer was vouching for him right when the personnel department

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Speaker 1: you think of this guy? You know, Kenny, we're what

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Speaker 1: day for two years. Right, you're the scouting department comes

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Speaker 1: over and says, hey, we're seeing this guy on film.

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Speaker 1: You've coached him, what do you think of him? And

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Speaker 1: he corroborates or dispels whatever their thoughts are. He'll give

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Speaker 1: him a clean evaluation what he saw of him as

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Speaker 1: a player and as a human being. Because because y'all know,

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Speaker 1: these guys spend hours in meetings and they get to

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Speaker 1: they'll they'll have a relationship that does help. Now, we

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Speaker 1: did have reports earlier in the week NFL Networks Mike

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Speaker 1: agreed to terms with David Quessenberry. But we haven't seen

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Speaker 1: without him as part of the equation here, by my account,

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Speaker 1: the Bills are up to eleven offensive lineman on the roster,

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Speaker 1: And then we also have the players that are on

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Speaker 1: who you're bringing to camp, did you say Greg Man's yes, Yeah, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: kind of figured we were. We've been in this place

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Speaker 1: it's not for nothing. The Bills started this when Brandon

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Speaker 1: Being got here. One of the things they did that

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Speaker 1: nobody we've never seen anybody do a lot of was

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Speaker 1: doing that. A free agent market is out there every

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Speaker 1: what it says about the organization. At the end of

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Speaker 1: Pencer Brown will probably line up at right tackle, but

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Speaker 1: sure day Ball sees the same thing or about the

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Speaker 1: same thing as I do. I mean, just a twitchy

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Speaker 1: he got his leg broken cost him the season. That

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Speaker 1: you're watching practice and you're just like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: these guys are just freaks, efficient movers, powerful technicians. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was just incredible. So and then yeah, when you know,

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Speaker 1: when you watched him in the playoffs too, You're just like,

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Speaker 1: my god, this guy is incredible. The ability to put

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Speaker 1: pressure on guys and beat all linemen and you know,

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Speaker 1: stop the run. I mean, he can do it all.

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Speaker 1: So he's a special guy, special player, and I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to get to play with him again. We're talking with

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Speaker 1: Bill's newest offensive lineman, David Edwards, who just signed this

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Speaker 1: one of year contract with the club today, And that

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Speaker 1: brings me to the next question. Good segue, David, because

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Speaker 1: going ones versus ones in training camp every year, there,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're looking at Aaron Donald, Sebastian, Joseph Day,

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Speaker 1: Greg Gaines. I mean you're looking in it. I mean

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Speaker 1: even way back, going back to Michael Brocker's before he left.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're looking at some hosses down inside every day.

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Speaker 1: How much did that make you a better player? And

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Speaker 1: how much easier did it make the games going against

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Speaker 1: talent level like that in practice? Yeah, I mean, uh,

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Speaker 1: there's no question I got I got better as a

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Speaker 1: player as a result of going against Aaron um And

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Speaker 1: and Sebastian and Greg and um you know Brock, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know those guys are elite, elite defensive defensive linemen.

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Speaker 1: So um, you know again, it's it's it's when you

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Speaker 1: go one on one and and in training camp or

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Speaker 1: even in season like it brings the best out of everybody.

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Speaker 1: Competition is king, I think, and being able to go

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Speaker 1: against the best only makes you a better player. So

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Speaker 1: did it make it easier in the games? I don't

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Speaker 1: know if i'd say that those those guys are you know,

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Speaker 1: going against Aaron is like going against an alien. It's

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Speaker 1: almost you know, you challenge in and of itself. But

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Speaker 1: there's no question I got better going against those guys.

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Speaker 1: Last one I got for you, David. I know you're

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Speaker 1: a guard by trade as far as your NFL career

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Speaker 1: is concerned, but you played a ton of right tackle

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Speaker 1: at Wisconsin. Has Chrome's basically said, hey, let's just let

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Speaker 1: you get settled in a guard. But these guys love

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Speaker 1: position flex here in Buffalo, they like signing guys with

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Speaker 1: some position flex. You have tackle in your background. I'm

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Speaker 1: just curious if that was even brought up by Chromes

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Speaker 1: at all. You know, in the early conversations that you've had,

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Speaker 1: I mean, guard is your guards your spot? It would

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Speaker 1: seem but it's nice to know you got tackle in

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Speaker 1: your background. Yeah, that wasn't brought up in our discussions.

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Speaker 1: I think that, you know, guard is primarily what we

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Speaker 1: were talking about. Um, but I told him, and I

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Speaker 1: told you know the other other people in the building,

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Speaker 1: like I'm I'm willing to play whatever position best fits myself,

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Speaker 1: best fits this team, best fits the offense. And ultimately,

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Speaker 1: you know, the goal is to win a championship, and

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Speaker 1: so however I can contribute to that is what I'm

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Speaker 1: willing to do, whether that's tackler or guard. But I

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Speaker 1: would imagine initially it would be garden. Yeah, David, thanks,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on the new contract. Welcome to Buffalo. It's great

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Speaker 1: talking to you, and good luck down there and we'll

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Speaker 1: see when you get here. Thank you, guys, appreciate your

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Speaker 1: time and thanks for having me. And happy belated birthday.

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Speaker 1: Heck of a belated birthday, a new contract, that's pretty

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Speaker 1: good birthday present, So happy birthday as well, no doubt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys, appreciate it. That's David Edwards joining us,

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Speaker 1: your newest Buffalo Bill's offensive lineman. Just celebrated a birthday

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Speaker 1: on Monday, the day before coach McDermott's birthday, which was Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: So turns twenty six on Monday, signs a contract on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty good week for one David Edwards. And

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Speaker 1: the only reason I brought up tackle is because Steve

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Speaker 1: like he played three years at right tackle at the university,

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Speaker 1: was consent and it's not like, well, you know, he

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Speaker 1: just played tackle, but he projects to guard in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Guy was a first team All American at tackle. So

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Speaker 1: that's that just got my wheels turning because you know

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Speaker 1: how Brandon being and the coaching staff loves position flex,

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Speaker 1: so you know, if you're in a pinch, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: not like it's a foreign position to this guy. He

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Speaker 1: was also a four star or a three star recruit

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Speaker 1: as a high school option quarterback too, So well, that's right,

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Speaker 1: you're right about that. He's not the I'm thinking he's

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Speaker 1: probably not going to be the emergency quarterback either, but

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Speaker 1: uh no, no doubt. He's big enough to play tackle

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Speaker 1: long enough, long enough, um, And it's it's not a

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Speaker 1: very He's a lot closer playing tackle than he is,

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Speaker 1: you know, the emergency quarterback, that's for sure. And I

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Speaker 1: think and you can tell me, because you know, you

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Speaker 1: played in Super Bowl, so you can validate this or

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Speaker 1: invalidate it. But anytime you can get a guy on

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Speaker 1: your roster that's been in the big game and won

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Speaker 1: the thing, there's value there, isn't it. I think so,

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Speaker 1: particularly when you know the closer you get to be

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Speaker 1: in in that game and if you do actually get

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Speaker 1: to that game, having a guy that was there just

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Speaker 1: within the last handful of years is huge just because

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Speaker 1: he's like, hey, guys, just think about this and this

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Speaker 1: and this, because this is this is gonna happen. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Don't let xap your head. It's stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: It's just reassuring to have guys in the locker room

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Speaker 1: or saying, heyy relax, this is not a big deal

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00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: kind of thing when all this new and different thing

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Speaker 1: stuff happens around that game. I mean, it's a pretty

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Speaker 1: good resume for him. Four NFL seasons, forty five starts,

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Speaker 1: four playoff appearances, so I mean, the guy's been in

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Speaker 1: big games in the postseason. So this is a team

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Speaker 1: that goes to the postseason every year. That's not going

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Speaker 1: to be a foreign thing for him. He'll settle right

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Speaker 1: in with the rest of this group. And I think

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Speaker 1: what we've got here is what's shaping up to be

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Speaker 1: a pretty interesting competition at right guard, because I think

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Speaker 1: he is direct competition for Ryan Bates for that right

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Speaker 1: guard spot. Yeah, no doubt absolutely. And McGovern whether they

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Speaker 1: play right or left. Yeah, they just got really a

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Speaker 1: lot better down inside with the two last two signings

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Speaker 1: of these offensive lineman McGovern. And now we got to

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Speaker 1: take a break here, but that was a good conversation

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Speaker 1: with the Bill's newest offensive lineman, David Edwards. We're getting

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Speaker 1: a little wacky today in terms of your topic of discussion.

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Speaker 1: What would be the wildest scenario in the AFC East

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Speaker 1: and why we've got choices for you on the Twitter

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Speaker 1: poll at one Bills Live A, the Bills acquired DeAndre Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: b the Jets get O'Dell Beckham and Daron Rodgers, see

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Speaker 1: the Patriots swing big for Lamar Jackson or something else.

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Speaker 1: What do you think's the wildest scenario for this division?

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Speaker 1: And we've got some updates on some of the reports

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Speaker 1: that are flying around as well about one DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that and plenty more, including your phone

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Speaker 1: calls here on one Bills Live, presented by Collot of Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, taking your

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Speaker 1: phone calls at eight three five fifty one eighty eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty the number to get on board,

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Speaker 1: Asking you and getting a little crazy today, what would

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Speaker 1: be the wildest scenario in the AFC East this offseason?

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Speaker 1: And why choices are on the poll at one Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: A Bills acquired DeAndre Hopkins, be Jets get O'Dell Beckham

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Speaker 1: Junior and Aaron Rodgers. See the Patriots swing big for

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson or something else you've cooked up in your

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Speaker 1: own head. You let us know at eighth three five

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Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 1: the number to get on board. There is news flying

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Speaker 1: around on DeAndre Hopkins today, various NFL news breakers, shall

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Speaker 1: we say, talking about DeAndre Hopkins. There was a report

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Speaker 1: earlier to day that up to five teams could be

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Speaker 1: interested in acquiring DeAndre Hopkins via trade from a Cardinals

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Speaker 1: team that is admittedly rebuilding and is looking to shed

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Speaker 1: fat veteran salaries and Hopkins would certainly qualify for that.

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Speaker 1: And then there is this from Aaron Wilson, who covers

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, and he is saying that DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: trade market is headlined by the Bills. Per his NFL sources,

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Speaker 1: five time Pro Bowl selection has plenty of interest on

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Speaker 1: the trade market, but financial expectations might impact any further

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Speaker 1: interest from teams like the Chiefs and the Ravens, who

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Speaker 1: are not among the bidding teams per sources. Now here's

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Speaker 1: the Rubs, Steve. Let's just say that these reports are

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Speaker 1: accurate and there are a handful of teams in contact

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Speaker 1: with the Cardinals about what it would take to pull

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins off the Cardinals roster and put them on

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Speaker 1: to theirs. We saw Brandon Cooks go to Dallas for

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Speaker 1: a fifth and a sixth round pick. I would tend

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Speaker 1: to think that DeAndre Hopkins, who in my estimation is

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Speaker 1: significantly a better receiver than Brandon Cooks, would cost more.

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Speaker 1: But if you have five, he does have a bigger

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Speaker 1: salary number. But with five teams interested, that cost could

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Speaker 1: get significant very quickly. Right. The problem is the thing

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Speaker 1: that brings it back into the Brandon Cooks conversation is

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Speaker 1: the fact that d Hoop has a nineteen million dollars

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Speaker 1: salary coming to him. That's a problem. Now it's been

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Speaker 1: reported that Arizona will take some of that money and

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Speaker 1: hang onto it, Like they'll pay like seven million of

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Speaker 1: his salary. That'll bring him down to like twelve million

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Speaker 1: on your team, or whatever the number is. Maybe they'll

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Speaker 1: maybe they'll pay fifteen million of it, or maybe they'll

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Speaker 1: pay nothing. I don't know, whatever it is. If they

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Speaker 1: are willing to carry some of the salary on their

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Speaker 1: books and get rid of the other, that makes it

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Speaker 1: more affordable for all of those teams, all five of

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Speaker 1: those teams. So if I'm believing all five of those

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Speaker 1: teams would love to have Zona carry as much as

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Speaker 1: they would. But that does mean what you give up

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Speaker 1: is more so if you're Buffalo, you give up a

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Speaker 1: player and and draft picks and don't have to take

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Speaker 1: all of that salary. If you can get DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: for less than ten million bucks, yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna get it there, but right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's hard, that's all. That's a big jump. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's half of the money he's due because nineteen four

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Speaker 1: five this year. Yeah, and you've heard all the stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, say we trade Ed Oliver to Arizona for

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Well, they're taking edge ten point nine, so

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Speaker 1: they're not there's the there's the money they're taking. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna ask us to take your ten point nine

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Speaker 1: and then pay another seven for DeAndre? No thanks, you

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Speaker 1: know they're not gonna do that, right, So they're not

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Speaker 1: getting any cap relief because of that. Deep I think

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Speaker 1: the other fly in the ointment here, and Brandon Bean

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Speaker 1: mentioned this lad week. He said that we're not necessarily

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Speaker 1: done in free agency, but if we have to do

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Speaker 1: anything significant, it would involve either more restructures, which he

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Speaker 1: sounded hesitant to do because he doesn't like building up

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Speaker 1: what he called an avalanche in a couple of years

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Speaker 1: that it just swallows up your team and you have

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Speaker 1: to start from scratch and tear it all down. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to do that, so he seemed reluctant to

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Speaker 1: do any more restructures. So then the next option is

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Speaker 1: moving people off the roster to create cap space. And

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Speaker 1: they only have sixty three sixty four players on the

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Speaker 1: roster right now anyway, and you're tight on the cap,

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Speaker 1: you need money for your rookie pool. You also need

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Speaker 1: about three and a half million for your practice squad

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Speaker 1: alone when you get to the regular season, and when

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Speaker 1: you get to the regular season, they all count, not

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Speaker 1: just the top fifty one. So it's a juggling act.

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Speaker 1: And when you're talking about acquiring a player with this

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Speaker 1: kind of a cap number, whether it's whether some of

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Speaker 1: his money is taken care of by the Cardinals or not,

641
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: you have to have the dominoes lined up as far

642
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: as who you're moving off the roster to make his

643
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: money fit. So you've got to plan all of that

644
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: in addition to finding out what the Cardinals accommodations are

645
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: going to be for you to take on his salary

646
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: and add it to your roster. Now, the other option

647
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: here too is and I think this is likely to

648
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: happen no matter who gets him, obviously depending on each

649
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: team's cap situation, but knowing a good number of the

650
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: teams at least at this stage of the game have

651
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: a lot less cap room than they did two weeks ago,

652
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: I would tend to think that once you get the

653
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: once the Cardinals whittled down the pool of trade partners

654
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: to about one or two teams. At that point in time,

655
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: they will probably let Hopkins representatives talk to that potential

656
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: trade partner and say, hey, if you want to do

657
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: an extension and spread his money out a little, let's

658
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: start working on that now. But I think that's got

659
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: to get pretty far along in the negotiating process in

660
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: terms of what's exchanged in a trade before they let

661
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: his agent talk to the potential buyer. Shall we say

662
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: to talk contract extension that Hopkins is due nineteen point

663
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: four this year. Yeah, in base salary base next year

664
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: it's fourteen nine. So if you're none of that's probably guaranteed.

665
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: He's probably got bonuses and stuff built in. So there's

666
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: gonna be a cap hit no matter what because of

667
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: bonuses he's already received. That goes to Arizona this year.

668
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: But the money that you're gonna pay, you could say, okay,

669
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: d hop how about this you got nineteen this year,

670
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: fourteen next year. How about if we take that what

671
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: was that thirty three million? Let's take that thirty three million,

672
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,479
Speaker 1: thirty four million dollars, spread it out over into three years,

673
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: but will guarantee twenty five of it? Well, I think,

674
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if they want to do that go

675
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: that far, but it's the premise is correct. If your

676
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: premise is correct, yeah, keep keep the total amount of

677
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: money the same, add a year onto his contract for

678
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: his age thirty three season, and then for him doing that,

679
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: you take some of that thirty three million and you

680
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: put in his pocket today when he signs a contract.

681
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: You're still gonna get your thirty three million. We'll put

682
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: ten in your pocket right now, or we'll spread it.

683
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: We'll give it to you in two years, but we'll

684
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: guarantee it. Well, we'll guarantee get more of it further

685
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: down the line, that kind of thing. So you can

686
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: get that under the cap that way. So that's possible.

687
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: That way, you don't get hammered by the cap. And

688
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: DeAndre will say, well, shoot, you're gonna guarantee it, yeah,

689
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: because then if you know, catastrophe hits, he still gets

690
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: the money and yeah, so there are ways to do it,

691
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: but he has to say okay, right, yeah. I would

692
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: like to think that he sees the writing on the

693
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: wall here. He knows that Arizona is going to be

694
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: doing a full tear down and a rebuild under a

695
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: new GM and a new head coach, and he's entering

696
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: his age thirty one season. He knows that there is

697
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 1: far less time in front of him to his NFL

698
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: career than is behind him at this point. And I

699
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: would like to think that if winning is important to him,

700
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: he's willing to make some concessions. You know, redo your deal,

701
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: but don't give him. You know, I'm not going to

702
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: take any new money. You need to spread out my

703
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: money right now. That's fine, but let's guarantee some upfront

704
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: so I know I'm getting money in my pocket this year,

705
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: you know. And if you want to put in other incentives, great.

706
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: I would hope he just wants to win at this

707
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: point in time. So plus, I don't know, from outside

708
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: looking in, it looks Buffalo would be a much more

709
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: attractive place to play at this point of his career

710
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: than Arizona, for sure, And depending on who the other

711
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: suitors are, which you know it's been conjector, but I

712
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: don't know. You're coming to a place where they're gonna

713
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: sling it. You want to be part of that, and

714
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: they're gonna be They're gonna be there at the end.

715
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna be in the tournament, this club, and you

716
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: want to be a part of it, playing with Josh,

717
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: playing with Steph in this environment, there's a lot to

718
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: be said for that right of him, you know, sitting

719
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: down and really listening to what the Bills have to

720
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: say and how much, how enticing they can make it

721
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, I'll take that deal. Certainly he's not

722
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: going to take a Yeah, Certainly he's not going to

723
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: take a step backward and leave money on the table.

724
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: But certainly if there are ways you can structure a

725
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: contract that make it palatable easily for the Buffalo Bills,

726
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: if he's willing to take it. Yeah, So there are

727
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: a lot of there are a lot of hurdles to

728
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: clear here. First, any other team that might be competing

729
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: to acquire DeAndre Hopkins. And look, we're only going on

730
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: reports here, And look, the Bills or any other team

731
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: is not going to confirm their interest one way or

732
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: the other to anybody. Usually things stay pretty quiet on

733
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: fronts like this. And the part of the reason why

734
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: is you don't want to pull any other teams into

735
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: the mix, you know, just by stating your interest. So

736
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: it's it's a layer it's a multi layered type situation here.

737
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: The more people are reporting on it, though, the more

738
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 1: you think there is some legitimacy to multiple teams being interested.

739
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: And it makes sense. I mean, he's a dynamic player,

740
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: even at age thirty one. Once Arizona made it clear

741
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: they were willing to move him, once it got to

742
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: the point where the Brandon Cooks deal you're talking about

743
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: came out and they said, and a lot of teams said, well,

744
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: that's what Brandon Cook's going for. What are you asking

745
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: for for? D hop And then the conversation started and

746
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: nobody was biting on a number one for that salary

747
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: cap and those you know. So then now, three days ago,

748
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: I would have said, this is not going to happen.

749
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: Now maybe right, I mean, I mean this, we're this

750
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: spot where if we were all believed, if we say

751
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: it enough, it's going to happen. And I don't think

752
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: that that's not love. But that's the case. I'll keep

753
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: talking about it feels that way that we could speak

754
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: it into existence. I don't think that's true, but man, o, man,

755
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: it's sure feels good to discuss it in ways that

756
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: seem relatively possible. Right. So the latest report is saying

757
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: that the Ravens and the Chiefs would not be interested

758
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: because of the financial implications involved. And that makes sense

759
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: because both of those teams only have about seven million

760
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: under the cap right now, and you've got a draft

761
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: class among other things to you know, worry about. The

762
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: bills at least according to overthcap dot Com have about

763
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: nine point eight now that's probably changed with the signing

764
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: of David Edwards today. And then you've got the Patriots

765
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: with about a little over twelve million available to them,

766
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: and the Raiders are even below the bills at about

767
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: eight point seven in cap space. So every one of

768
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: these teams would have to do some financial juggling to

769
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: try to make something like this work. And I don't know,

770
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: stranger things have happened. I'm not saying it can happen,

771
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: but it's going to take a lot of work and

772
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: a lot of creativity. We have to take a break here,

773
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: but we start taking your phone calls. When we come back,

774
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: James and Akron will lead us off along with others.

775
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: Holding at eight three five fifty. What is your wildest

776
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: AFC East player acquisition scenario? You let us know the

777
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: poll is up at one bills live. We're back in

778
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: a second. All right, more Bills News to report here

779
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: as we close in and close out our number one.

780
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: But before we do that, we do have to remind

781
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: you that the Bill Store is going to be closing

782
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: on March twenty fourth, that's tomorrow for some big changes

783
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: pond reopening on April first. There will be a new operator,

784
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,680
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785
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,360
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786
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: part of the reopening festivities from eleven to one pm

787
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: on April first. The first five hundred customers will receive

788
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: a limited edition Buffalo Bills coin with a purchase, although

789
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: you can still shop online currently at shop Buffalo Bills

790
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: dot com in the meantime, so just a heads up

791
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: if you're driving by Avid Road and you wanted to

792
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: pop in, you won't be able to do so from

793
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Speaker 1: March twenty fourth to March thirty first, the Bills News

794
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: to Report we already told you earlier this hour that

795
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: the reports are out there that Jamison Crowder will be

796
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 1: signing a one year contract with the New York Giants.

797
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: So too, according to Giants Beat reporter Jordan run On,

798
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: will be also signing tight end Tommy Sweeney. So, the

799
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: former seventh round pick of the Bills in twenty nineteen

800
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: is a free agent and he's going to be signing

801
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: a contract with the Giants. No surprise there. If Sweeney

802
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be here, that would be the first

803
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: place I'd expect him to go. And sure enough, that's

804
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: what's happened. Easy transition, same offense, right. So, and he's

805
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: a Jersey guy too, so he gets to go home. Okay,

806
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: there's that extra bonus for one. Tommy Sweeney. He was

807
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: a great dude, great locker room guy, great teammate, and

808
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: eighteen catches over the course of his career, two hundred

809
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: and sixty five yards inactive a lot this past John, Yeah,

810
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: he did not see the field a lot for Buffalo.

811
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: Wn Morris kind of passed him on the depth chart

812
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: this year, so there really wasn't a lot of opportunity

813
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: for him here. Maybe he gets more of an opportunity

814
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: to dress on game days down there with the Giants

815
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: who are still trying to build their roster up entering

816
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: year or two with Joe Shane and Brian Davis. So

817
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: we wish him luck down there. Let's go to the

818
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: phones at eight O three five fifty one, eight five

819
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: fifty two, five fifty leading us off is James in Akron.

820
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: What do you got for us? James, you're on Bill's life. Yeah.

821
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make a commenter. And the DeAndre

822
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: Hopkins sign it if he wants to come here and win,

823
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea. We should just get

824
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: a number one receiver in the draft. I know he's

825
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: a proven guy, but I still would rather take a

826
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: chance with a younger guy or would get maybe a

827
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: couple of years out of DeAndre. Yeah, he's entering his

828
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: age thirty one season. I think that's fair to assume.

829
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: M So that's my opinion, and I'll let you guys

830
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: finish up. Well say this, it's right. It is a balance, James,

831
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, Nobody in this draft is as

832
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: good as DeAndre Hopkins is now. They may last longer

833
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: than d Hop at this point, but even if you

834
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: get two two and a half, if you get three

835
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: years out of d hop your your love and life.

836
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: I would wager that there's not going to be too

837
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: many guys in this draft that will have the kind

838
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: of career the d hop has certainly has has had

839
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 1: going forward, nobody's gonna be None of these draft players

840
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: in this draft are gonna be able to touch de

841
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: hop In my opinion, this is not a strong wide

842
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: receiver draft. There's a couple of guys that are physical

843
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: specimens that are biggest uff, but they've got some warts

844
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: on them even coming in. You may get some guys

845
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: that can play certain positions like slot or whatever. They're

846
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: gonna have nice careers and do some stuff. But if

847
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: you can get two years out of this guy at

848
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: the level that he can play at, you make that

849
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: deal all day long, absolutely all day long. And I

850
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: get what you're saying about having a younger guy and

851
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: coming in. I think there is just the questions that

852
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: are already answered by signing a veteran player of the

853
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: quality of DeAndre Hopkins far outweigh the question marks you're

854
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: coming in, no matter how gifted and young and fresh

855
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: some draft pick looks. Yeah, I think d Hop's a

856
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: better option. So I disagree with you, I guess, James,

857
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: and I get what you're saying. I'm it's a balance,

858
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: but I don't think that's all he said. He was

859
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: all for it provided he you know we'd come in

860
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: for the right money. Well it comes, well, yeah, if

861
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: you can, yes, absolutely, But um yeah, I'm I'm telling you, Yeah,

862
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: there's nobody in this draft that's going to help you

863
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: as much as DeAndre Hopkins this year for sure? All right? Next?

864
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: All right, So let me let me take that conversation

865
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: to step further and ask you if you know there

866
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: is no receiver in this draft that is going to

867
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: help you as much as DeAndre Hopkins is this year?

868
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: Are you gonna part with the second round pick to

869
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: make to make the DeAndre Hopkins deal happen. You said

870
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: there's nobody in no receiver in this draft. Yeah. Uh,

871
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: You're given up a two for nineteen million dollars a year. Okay,

872
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: So you you'd give up a two if you can

873
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: massage the money in terms of whatever take if you

874
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: can get him for a contract that's worth six to

875
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: ten a year over the course of the contract and

876
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: guarantee whatever you want of it. Yeah, I want them.

877
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: You want them to cut it by two thirds? Yeah, yeah,

878
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: I was gotta be. You can't give the guy twenty million,

879
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: But you can't give him Not saying you can give

880
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: him twenty you can't even give him fifteen six is

881
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: a little steep, though it's too much. I think Arizona's

882
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: taken on a lot. Well, unless you can rework the contract,

883
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't care giving him all the money he's got coming.

884
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: Give him a chance at it. Yeah, that's kind of

885
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: where I'm coming from. I think that would be very

886
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: palatable to the Cardinals if you can convince DeAndre Hopkins

887
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 1: Reps to take the thirty four million dollars he's owed

888
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: over the next two years and spread it out for

889
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: three and make ten million of it a bonus that

890
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: goes in his pocket today. So he gets Yeah, so

891
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: he gets thirty four million dollars, but it's only twenty

892
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: four in base salary over the next three years. Now,

893
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: you can spread it out however you want. You can

894
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: make it two this year and then and make it

895
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: eleven next year and eleven the last year, and then

896
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: leave ten in a bonus that you spread over those

897
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: three years as well. Now, you can probably fit it

898
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: under the bill's cap this year and then figure out

899
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: the rest later, right, I don't know. I don't know

900
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: if he would do it, but it's one of it's

901
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: an example of the creativity that's going to have to

902
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: take place for it to happen. If Yeah, his number's

903
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: got to be right, and so what that you get

904
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: him for two years at the quality of play that

905
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: he can give you a second rounder? Kick that thing

906
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: in the curb, right, do it? I just wonder where

907
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: it goes? Knowing there are other reportedly there are other

908
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: bidders in this process that are no doubt talking to

909
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: the Cardinals as well. But that just shows you how

910
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: multilayered this is. One what is Arizona willing to do

911
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: in terms of the money he's still owed or they're

912
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: going to help you out with that or not? Two?

913
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: What's the compensation necessary to land him? With other bidders

914
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: in the process. Three what is Hopkins willing to do

915
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: with his own contract to work it without any new

916
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: money perhaps and tacking on a year? How much we

917
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: do you have to put in his pocket and a

918
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: bonus today to get him to do that? Those that's

919
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: just three things right there, and the list is probably

920
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: even longer than that, but they are not in terms

921
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: of making something happen, and that's not well, yeah, that's

922
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: probably why it's it's taking as long as this it's

923
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: not insurmountable. I mean that happens in league trade circles

924
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: all the time. Every deal's kind of like this as

925
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: particularly if the guy's got to rework his deal, that's

926
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: really the one thing that is important in this thing.

927
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: But let's face it, DeAndre Hopkins has real incentive to

928
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: rework that deal because otherwise otherwise he's stuck and they're

929
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: gonna have you know, if he wants a chance to

930
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: play and all that, he knows, he can see the

931
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: writing on the wall. His cap numbers too much for Arizona.

932
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: They want no part of it. So if he wants

933
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 1: to play and be a part of a team, you know,

934
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: he's got to be willing to see that writing on

935
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: the wall and make make changes to his contract. If

936
00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: he's not willing to do that and he's just gonna

937
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: Arizona's hand, I think we would already know that. Yeah,

938
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: break time for us here. When we come back, we

939
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: are going to talk a little AFC East with a

940
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: guy who usually has his ear to the ground on

941
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 1: the New York Jets, Dan Leberfeld from Jets Confidential joining

942
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: us here on one bills live in our number two.

943
00:52:19,120 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: Stay tuned these one Bill's Live presented by called Light

944
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: of Health. All right, here we are our number two

945
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: on a Thursday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and

946
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: pleased to be joined now by the writer and publisher

947
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: of Jets Confidential magazine to talk a little jets with us.

948
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: And it's one Dan Leberfell joining us on the line. Dan,

949
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: long time, no talk. How you been good? Chris and Steve?

950
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: How are you guys doing? We're doing all right. We're

951
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: doing all right. We'll get to some of your upcoming

952
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: coverage shortly. But the stuff coming down today about ob

953
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: j I mean it's it's a player that New York

954
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: football fans are wholly familiar with. What kind of credence

955
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: are we are we giving to that potential acquisition? Well,

956
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, the Jet under Joe Douglas are one of

957
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: those teams that, to use the cliche, turns over every stone.

958
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: So they look into a lot of things and a

959
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: lot of times because if they do that, their name

960
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: gets attached to a lot of different players. I just

961
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: don't know if it's the best idea. They have a

962
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: very good number one receiver and Garrett Wilson. They spent

963
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: big money on Alan Lazar to give the the big

964
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: target they needed receiver. They still have Denzel Mims. I

965
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: think they are interested in OBJ, but I do think

966
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: they cast a wide net when it comes to players

967
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: they're interested in. But they also we yes last year

968
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: we commented at length and we're proven correctly about how

969
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: well they managed their off season and bringing in just

970
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: the right players. The draft went extremely well. They got

971
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: the Offensive Rookie of the Year, the defensive Rookie of

972
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: the Year, and Bruce Hall could have gotten the could

973
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: have won the Offensive Rookie of the Year himself before

974
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: he was injured. So they have really stepped it up

975
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: in the last two off seasons. What do you think

976
00:54:56,239 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: is the biggest obstacle to the OBJ deal? Well, I

977
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 1: think that when you look at what they're trying to

978
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: build and you talk about those terrific young players, do

979
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: you want to now bring in a guy who obviously

980
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: needs the ball. He's a tremendous talent. Garrett Wilson is

981
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: clearly the number one and that led to some issues

982
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: last year with Elijah Moore, who was traded yesterday. He

983
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 1: was not getting the football because of some quarterback issues,

984
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: but also Garrett Wilson, being the main guy in the

985
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 1: passing game, said you want to go down that rabbit

986
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: hole again, because you'd have to assume that Garrett Wilson

987
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: and Alan Lazard are going to be a really big

988
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: part of this passing attack. So how many footballs will

989
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: they have for OBJ? Once again, he's a very talented player.

990
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 1: But what's the old saying? And I tweeted about this yesterday.

991
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 1: I think Bill Belichick said it. We're trying to build

992
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: a We're not trying to collect talent, which trying to

993
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: build a team. At what point do you say, you

994
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: know what enough fantasy football. Let's let's try to build

995
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: a team. Let's try to build a culture a certain way,

996
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: all right, So let's let's look at it this way, Dan,

997
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: because I mean, the Jets had a good amount of

998
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: cap space at the outset. It's it's obviously less so now,

999
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: especially after the Lizard deal. Spotrack dot com has him

1000
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: at about eleven and a half under. I don't know

1001
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: if that's updated since the Elijah Moore trade, which had

1002
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: money going out, So what how much do they have

1003
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: to kind of be careful with what they're doing here

1004
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: knowing the kind of salary they would be taking on

1005
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: in a Rogers trade, because I mean, I would tend

1006
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: to think you're already pretty tight as it is. You

1007
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: add a Rodgers contract, and I understand the base is

1008
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: only coming to you, but still in all that's a

1009
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: big number, that's right, that has to be factored in,

1010
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: and I think most people think that's going to eventually happen.

1011
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 1: I don't know when, but I would say it's eventually

1012
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: going to happen, and that his salary this year's fifty

1013
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: nine million. Now, that's not going to be the cap

1014
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: hit the Jets have because the Packers are going to

1015
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: have to take on some of that expense. I'm not

1016
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: a cap expert, but I could tell you that there

1017
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: will be some maneuvering there and it will not be

1018
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: obviously a fifty billion dollar cap hit for the Jets

1019
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. So yeah, Chris, that is a factor

1020
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: in trying to figure out whether you add a player

1021
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: like OBJ. And they still have some other needs here.

1022
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: Granted they can address some of them in the draft,

1023
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: but I think, you know, people talk so much about

1024
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: the Jets defense and how much it improved. They assure,

1025
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: and it did improve, but it's very far from being

1026
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: the unit they still need to be. They had similar

1027
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: problems to the Bills in terms of stopping the run

1028
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: late last year because similar to a Bill's philosophy, they

1029
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: go with some waller, quicker defensive lineman who could shoot

1030
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: up field and create havoc. But a big problem for

1031
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: the Jets, especially during that sixth game losing streak at

1032
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: the end of the year that knocked them out of

1033
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: playoff contention, was they were getting gashed against the run.

1034
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they played well in any of those

1035
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: games against the run in the sixth game losing streak,

1036
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: So they really need to get a big time run

1037
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: stuffer at defensive tackle. I don't know if it's going

1038
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: to happen in free agency now because a lot of

1039
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: those guys aren't available, like Dalvin Tomlinson and some of

1040
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: the good run stuffers that were available in free agency,

1041
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: but they've got to fill that need. They also need

1042
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: to get a coverage linebacker tight that you start with.

1043
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox against the Jets. Tight ends killed the Jets

1044
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: last year. So yes, they had a much improved defense

1045
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: last year, But this philosophy, this narrative out there that.

1046
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: You know, they plug in Aaron Rodgers. They have a

1047
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: great defence, they have a lot of weapons. They're one

1048
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: player away. I'm not sure that's entirely true. They were

1049
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: much improved last year on defense, but they still got

1050
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: a long way to go. Has Aaron Rodgers and the reason,

1051
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, the reasons are obvious, why I do It

1052
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet, But has that New York Jet Green

1053
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: Bay trade for Aaron Rodgers hamstrung the Jet's ability to

1054
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: go out and get these guys because of the cap

1055
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: implications of Rogers. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. They've

1056
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: made a few moves here and there, but they haven't

1057
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: been that active in free agency because of the Aaron

1058
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: Rodgers uncertainty and waiting to see that happen. You can

1059
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: go crazy in free agency when you have that kind

1060
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: of contract and that kind of player coming in eventually.

1061
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, that has kind of frozen the Jets a

1062
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: little bit in some of the moves they need to make. Clearly,

1063
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 1: when they made that trade trading Elijah More to clear

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Speaker 1: Eveland yesterday and getting back a second round pick, sending

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Speaker 1: a third round pick, but that second round pick is

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01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 1: very important because it could come into play as compensation

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Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers. You'd have to think getting that two

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01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: was huge in terms of a piece of what the

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01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: puzzle might look like in terms of the compensation for Rogers.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you also think that the Jets are going to

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Speaker 1: be looking to send dollars out in that trade too,

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Speaker 1: knowing how tight they are against the cap. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know that I already kind of asked you about

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Speaker 1: that in terms of the cap space still left for

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01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, the Jets, But I mean Aaron Rodgers base

1076
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: salary next year is fifteen eighty five and they only

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01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: got eleven and a half in room. I would tend

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01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: to think a player or two are going to have

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Speaker 1: to go the other way in that deal, right Yeah?

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Speaker 1: A name that would would be one that makes a

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01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: ton of sense, as Denzel Mims. You know, not only

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Speaker 1: did Eliza Moore ask for a trade last year, Denzel

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01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: Mims did as well. Because the Jet was so deep

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01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: and receiver and those of our guys weren't getting the

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01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: rock very often. Denzel Mims had more to complain about

1086
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: because he was actually fifth or six on the depth chart.

1087
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore was playing a lot he just wasn't seeing

1088
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: the ball. But Denzel Mims asked for a trade last summer,

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01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,919
Speaker 1: and so it's possible a player like Denzel Mims could

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01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: be included in the trade for Aaron Rodgers. He'd be

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01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: a good guy for the Packers to replace Alan lazardwi

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Speaker 1: Another guy who could factor into the cap situation that

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Speaker 1: you bring up related to Rogers is Corey Davis. The

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Speaker 1: wide receiver came over a few years ago from Tennessee.

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01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: He signed a big money deal. He's got a pretty

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Speaker 1: big cap number this year, so he's been rumored to

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01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 1: be a possible cap casualty. So Corey Davis's contract could

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Speaker 1: be moved, as could Denzel Mims. So what are the

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Speaker 1: highlights so far? Certainly the Lazard acquisition sets the Jets

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01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: up with a big bodied wide out to compliment Garrett Wilson,

1101
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: red zone threatened and everything that Lazard brings to the table.

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Speaker 1: Is that the highlights so far for them? You know, obviously,

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Speaker 1: besides the Rogers revelation, which hasn't happened yet, is Lazard

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01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: their highlight? Yeah, there's no doubt about it. You know.

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01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: People assume, and rightfully so, that the signing of Lazard

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01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: was connected to Rogers because we all know about that

1107
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: wish list story, which has been pooh pooed a little bit,

1108
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: that Rogers put together a wish list for the Jets

1109
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: and the players he'd like them to sign to Enticon

1110
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: to come to the team. Rogers downplayed that big time

1111
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: on the Pat McAfee show. I don't think it was demands.

1112
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: I would think it was just a conversation saying, yeah,

1113
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: these are a few of the players I like. You know,

1114
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: if you're interested in them in free agency, I wouldn't

1115
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: mind you sign them. Lazard is a guy that they needed,

1116
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: whether they got Rogers or not. Even though that is

1117
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: something that made Rogers happy, the fact that they signed Lazard,

1118
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 1: but they did not have the last couple of years.

1119
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: That's six five, two hundred twenty two hundred and thirty

1120
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Speaker 1: pound receiver who could win fifty fifty balls consistently, you know,

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01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: go up and climb the ladder and beat the defensive

1122
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: back for the ball. Denzel Mims you would think would

1123
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: be that player. He is sixty three, he has good

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01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: leaping ability. But as you know, Steve as a guy

1125
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: who played receiver on a high level for a long time.

1126
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: There's a difference between the ability to climb the ladder

1127
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: and go up and get a high pass and winning

1128
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: fifty fifty balls. Denzel Mims good at going up and

1129
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: jump and getting footballs, but when it's contested, he's not

1130
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: that great. Alan Lazard is that kind of guy, you know,

1131
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: he's it might be better than fifty fifty with Alan Lazard,

1132
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: with his size and strength and his grip strength. It

1133
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: might be more seventy thirty on jump balls for Alan Lazard.

1134
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: So in the red zone, you know, on fade routes,

1135
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: Alan Lazard is the kind of player they needed, whether

1136
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: they got Aaron Rodgers or not, really didn't have a

1137
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: guy like that. We're talking with Jets publisher of Jets

1138
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: Confidential magazine, Dan Leberfeld, also does a lot of writing

1139
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: in there, and if you're interested in the subscription, you

1140
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: go to Jets Confidential dot com to find out what

1141
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: Buffalo's AFC East rival is doing. And you know, we're

1142
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: talking about the receiver position here, Dan, and you know

1143
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: McCole Hardman is the latest edition, and you know it's

1144
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: just a one year deal. They probably get him on

1145
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: the cheap coming off an injury riddled season for him

1146
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: and they move Elijah More out. Is this an indication

1147
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: that Hardman will be the slot guy or do they

1148
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: have somebody else in mind for that and Hartman's just

1149
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: the guy on the outside to take the top off

1150
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: the defense. No, they definitely need a slot guy because

1151
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: let's not forget that Braxton Barrios. We talked before about

1152
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: cap casualties. Braxton bar Us with a cap casualty earlier

1153
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: in the all season terrific kick and punt returner and

1154
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: slot receiver. He's out of the mix now. Elijah Moore

1155
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: was very good in the slot. He's out of the mix.

1156
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: Jeff Smith did some work in the slot. He signed

1157
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: with the New York Football Giants, so they don't have

1158
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: a lot of players in the slot. So Micole Hardman

1159
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: will help them in the slot. He'll also help him

1160
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: with kick and punt returns, something that Barrios did a

1161
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: good job with. I just thought that was a tremendous

1162
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: move by Jets GM Joe Douglas yesterday because think about it,

1163
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: you get a second round pick for for Elijah Moore.

1164
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: I know you have to send it three, but to me,

1165
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: the key to every draft of the first and second

1166
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: round pick. Yeah, you want to hit on later ones,

1167
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: but if you want to have a great team, you've

1168
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: got to nail those first certain second round picks. And

1169
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: now the Jets have a one in two twos. We

1170
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 1: talked before about maybe one or a couple of those

1171
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: picks going to the Packers for Aaron Rodgers. Will see

1172
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: how that goes. I don't think the Jets ever want

1173
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: to give up one for Rogers, but it's possible one

1174
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: of those twos goes to Green Bay for Rogers. But

1175
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: think about what Joe Douglas did. He replaces Elijah Moore

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01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: with a similar player, and actually I think Hardman is

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Speaker 1: faster than Elijah Moore. A Hardman as world class speed,

1178
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: more as fast, but not Hardman fast. So they get

1179
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: a good slot receiver, a good returner, a guy who

1180
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: could take the top off the defense. They replace more,

1181
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: and they get an all important second round pick in

1182
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: that trade that they can use in the Aaron Rodgers

1183
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: potential deal. So I thought that was a really good

1184
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: job of roster maneuvering by Joe Douglas yesterday. What does

1185
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: your gut tell you about what's going to happen with

1186
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: They got six picks, or actually seven picks. Now with

1187
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: the two twos, what does that tell? What's your gut

1188
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: tell you about what's gonna happen with these Jet draft picks?

1189
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: You mean in terms of trades or what they might

1190
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: do with them. Yeah, first of all, let's start. What

1191
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: if they keep all of them, which probably unlikely. But

1192
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: if they keep all of them, who they gonna take?

1193
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: What are their needs? Well, I'll tell you what. When

1194
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: it comes to the thirteenth pick in the first round,

1195
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: I think they need to think about the trenches. Get

1196
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman or defensive tackle, a nose tackle, as

1197
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: we talked about before. They need one of those six

1198
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: three three hundred twenty pound athletic nose tackles who takes

1199
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: up double teams and it is very good at stacking

1200
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: and shedding lineman and stopping the run. We talked about

1201
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: it before, how they were dashed up the middle too much.

1202
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: So defensive tackle, offensive line. I think a guy like

1203
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: Paris Johnson out of Ohio State, the offensive tackle who

1204
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: could also play guard. He played guard as a sophomore

1205
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: for the Buckeyes. I think he would be perfect at

1206
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: thirteen because while they do have a lot of offensive

1207
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: tackles in the building with McKay Beckton, with Max Mitchell,

1208
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: which Wayne Brown. They're all coming off injuries. In the

1209
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: case of Mitchell a blood clot issues, so more of

1210
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: an illness. But three tackles who are in the plans

1211
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: who you have to wonder about their health. I'm sure

1212
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: they'll be fine, but you never know. So Paris Johnson

1213
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: will be perfect at thirteen because not only could he

1214
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: give you insurance and offensive tackle with all those medical

1215
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: question marks, but he could plug in inside at guard

1216
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: as well. And I think a nose tackle would make

1217
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. I don't think the Boston College

1218
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: kid would make any sense for the Jets because they

1219
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: need a bigger, more stack guy. He's along the lines

1220
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: of what they've had. He's six one cancy six one

1221
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: two eighty. They don't need that anymore. They need a

1222
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 1: guy who's going to wreck the game up the middle

1223
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: with his size, athleticism and power. And then last one

1224
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: I've got for you, Dan, what is the latest on

1225
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: Bruce Hall's rehabilitation And is every indication at least right

1226
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 1: now that he's going to be ready for training camp?

1227
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he got he suffered that injury right around

1228
01:08:56,160 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: mid season. Yeah, I think you know, training camp could

1229
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: be iffy. You know, I always find it interesting when

1230
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: we all we all say this, we all report this.

1231
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 1: This guy will be ready for OTAs this guy I'll

1232
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: be ready for training kid. We all know, darnwell, a

1233
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: player coming off for knee injury. You could say he's

1234
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: ready for training camp, but he's going to be on

1235
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: a pitch count. You know. He always hear those stories

1236
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: about he'll be ready, he'll be ready, but they're going

1237
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,879
Speaker 1: to be really careful in the summer. I'll be shocked

1238
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: if he's not ready for the opener. But I do

1239
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: think you know, this is a situation where in camp

1240
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: they're going to handle him with kid gloves. Dan, thanks

1241
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 1: so much for spending some time with you. Appreciate. I

1242
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: always love hearing from you. It's always great to be

1243
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: on with these guys. All right, take care of Dan.

1244
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: That's Dan Leverfeld, writer and publisher of Jets Confidential, which

1245
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: you can find at jets confidential dot com if you

1246
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: want to get the lowdown on Buffalo's AFC East rival,

1247
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: and I imagine he'll have full pre draft coverage here

1248
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,839
Speaker 1: in the monthly issue coming up at the start of April.

1249
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: Does good work down there for a long time covering

1250
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 1: the Jets, and it's I just wonder how they're gonna

1251
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 1: fit it all. I'm surprised, I'll be honest with you, Steve.

1252
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that Jets have done as much as they

1253
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: have already in free agency because in my estimation, the

1254
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers thing holds them hostage a little bit an anchor, yeah,

1255
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: in terms of what they feel they can and cannot do.

1256
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: And I don't see any way around acquiring Aaron Rodgers

1257
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: without sending players to Green Bay currently on their roster

1258
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: right dollars out for dollars in right. I said earlier

1259
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: that seven they they don't have seven. They have two twos.

1260
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 1: They have one, two twos, no third, and then a

1261
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: four to five and six. So they got six picks

1262
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: just like the Bills do, although they're sitting, they're rearranged differently,

1263
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna I mean, the Aaron Rodgers thing

1264
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: would have to happen to me, would have to happen

1265
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: before the draft, right, because if the Packers are going

1266
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: to trade draft picks for Aaron Rodgers, they want them

1267
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,680
Speaker 1: this year. You got. You want to get them this.

1268
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: You don't want to wait till after this season to

1269
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: start getting more help in the draft, particularly lose your

1270
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 1: you know, your two time your four time MVP. Two

1271
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: out of last three years, he's been the MVP of

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Speaker 1: the league. You gotta get you gotta start filling those

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01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: holes up now. Yeah, he's got So here's the here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. Rogers in his contract has a fifty eight

1275
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: point three million dollars option bonus that has to be

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01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: exercised between Saint Patrick's day and week one. That's the

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01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: time frame that the Packers have to work with to

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01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: get him off of their books. And then that that roster,

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01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: that option bonus. I got to look into what happens

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Speaker 1: to that. Does that just go away if the Packers

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01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: trade him. I don't know what the language and the

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01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: contract says or whether the new team would inherit it.

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01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: And if they inherit it, well, then the case there

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01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 1: is they're gonna have to arrange something. Ye sure, they're

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01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: gonna drop a fifty eight guaranteed, fifty eight million dollars

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Speaker 1: option bonus. So we'll have to see, you know how

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01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: that all shakes out. Because there's another option bonus in

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01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four that is on his contract as well,

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01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: which would kick in the twenty twenty six compensation in

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01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: the contract. So his base salary this year isn't the issue.

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01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 1: It's one point one six five. The issue is the

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01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 1: option bonus, which is fifty eight point three million, and

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01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 1: it basically, you know, kicks in somewhere between now and

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01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: week one, depending on when you know the packers enacted

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01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 1: and if he gets traded, do they have to enacted

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01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 1: before they trade him? Probably not, otherwise they probably wouldn't

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01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: even be entertaining trading. I don't know. This is the

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01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: This is the area of contract language that gets a

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01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: little too complicated where unless you can see the exact

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01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: wording of the deal, do you know all the parameters

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01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: contained within that option bonus? Do the jets inherit that?

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01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 1: Do they have to rework that with Aaron Rodgers? You know,

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01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: what becomes of the pack is what cap hits do

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01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: they incur if they trade him. It's different from if

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01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: they cut him. So if they well, if they trade him,

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01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: the contract goes with him. And if they have not

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01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: paid that bonus and the windows still open, that leaves

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01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: it up to the Jets to either pick up that

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01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: option or rework his contracted with his input. Yeah, I don't.

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01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't pretend to know for sure how those option

1311
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: bonuses work and whether new teams inherit bonus elements of

1312
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: the contract. But if the money hasn't been paid yet,

1313
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: I would think that the Jets would inherit that. So

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01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: that's a thing. It's fifty eight point three million, isn't nothing.

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01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: It's a huge thing, huge thing. Um. Yeah, they got

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01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 1: to figure it out, and that's why. That's why it's

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01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 1: not taking That's why it's taken so long. Yeah, it's sticky,

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01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: there's no question about it. All right. We gotta take

1319
01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: a break here. When we come back, we are going

1320
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: to discus us more AFC East because it's our poll

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01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: for the day. We'll see where the numbers sit when

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01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: we come back. What would be the wildest scenario in

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01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: the a FC East this offseason and why A Bills

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01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: acquired DeAndre Hopkins, b the Jets get Odell Beckham and

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01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: Rogers Cee, the Patriots swing big for Lamar Jackson or

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01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: something else you've got cooked up in your head. You

1327
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,559
Speaker 1: can let us know. At eight three five fifty Steve

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01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: and I back in a second here on one Bill's line.

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01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 1: A little wildest AFC East scenarios you can think of.

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01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: That's what's up on our Twitter poll right now. We're

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01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: asking you for your thoughts either on the phone lines

1332
01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: at eight fifty eight fifty two five fifty or on

1333
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, which is where we're headed right now.

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01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 1: Way out in front. For the wildest offseason scenario in

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01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: the division is New England swinging for Lamar Jackson over

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01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the vote. Bill's acquiring Hopkins is seen

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01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: as the second wildest, Steve, how about that Jets getting

1338
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 1: ob j and Rogers only getting about twelve percent of

1339
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: the vote. Yeah, Lamar Jackson going to the Patriots, that

1340
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: pretty wacky. Well, I can't think about it. I can't

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01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: see him doing it. Tua, Lamar Josh and Aaron Rodgers

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01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:35,560
Speaker 1: willikersyouch that turns that. Yeah, the FC East would be

1343
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 1: on Monday night for football every week. I was saying,

1344
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: I was going through, there's like eight, there's thirty, there's thirty, four,

1345
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: thirty six primetime game Thursday night, Sunday night, Monday night

1346
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: sted be three times eighteen. Whatever that is would be

1347
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: fifty four, yeah, fifty four primetime games during the regular season.

1348
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 1: How many would be AFC East games because there maybe

1349
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 1: some where they face each other. They're right where they

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01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: least one team. Yeah, they would all and plus the

1351
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: Bills are playing the NFC East this year, right, they

1352
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: are playing the all four of those games, all four

1353
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: of those games be primetime. The Jets would be all primetime.

1354
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 1: They're playing playing the AFC West too, oh my gosh,

1355
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: and they play Cincinnati. An AC East team would be

1356
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: on every single weekend primetime Thursday Sunday Monday. Yeah, all

1357
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 1: those quarterbacks, if not Thursday Monday both they If if

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01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 1: all of those things happened and Lamar ends up ended

1359
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: up in this division with Aaron and Josh and Tua,

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01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: goodness gracious, let's go to the tweet sheet. See what

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01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: you think. Tweet sheet brought to you by Corring and

1362
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 1: Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills.

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01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 1: Ron leads us off and says the Bills have typically

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01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: played very well against Lamar and Rogers just not sure

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01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 1: if Rogers is truly all in with football anymore. He

1366
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: seems more worried about attention these days. Acquiring d Hop

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01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: would be big for the Bills and give him that

1368
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver combo the division would have to contend with.

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01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with all of this. How much

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01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: do you think the Jets are thinking about Roger's commitment

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01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: to football, especially beyond this year? Well beyond this year.

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01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 1: I think that's a real question. This year, I don't

1373
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: think it's any quit. He wants to come in and

1374
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: win another MVP for the Jets. He wants to come

1375
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: in and hit a home run. I think that's his win,

1376
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: an MVP, not a Super Bowl. Yes, as a matter

1377
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 1: of fact, fair enough, he'd be in the conversation if

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01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: they're that good anyway. But still that's what he really wants,

1379
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: and so he's going to be highly, highly motivated to

1380
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: commit to do it now. Depending on how this season

1381
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: goes will depend on his commitment to next year. In

1382
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: my opinion, if he comes in and the Jets do

1383
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: a bunch of Jetsy things during the regular season, he

1384
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: may just pull the ripcord and say, you know what,

1385
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to parachute home because I got everything I need.

1386
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm good with me, yes exactly,

1387
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: I like me even if nobody else does. I'm out

1388
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: he's like that. He's quickly turning into the t O

1389
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks. I like me some me. Yeah, so that's

1390
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: what I think. I think it's a real question, no doubt,

1391
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:14,919
Speaker 1: it's a real question what his his you know, commitment

1392
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: will be past this year. This year, I think it's

1393
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: going to be all in. He's gonna go, and then

1394
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: he's going to evaluate all the Packers. He's going to

1395
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 1: evaluate after the season as close as they are close

1396
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 1: as you know, depending on what happens, and he's gonna

1397
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,560
Speaker 1: hold him. He's gonna hold him hostage, just like he

1398
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: did the Packers that next offseason. But I think depending

1399
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: on how it goes and how close they seem to be,

1400
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: that will dictate what he does in year two for

1401
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 1: the Jets. Brad on the tweet sheet says, it's an

1402
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 1: arms race in the AFC East right now. It wouldn't

1403
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: surprise me if all three things listed happened this offseason.

1404
01:18:45,160 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 1: The good news is the other teams in the AFC

1405
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: East are doing this in an attempt to contend with

1406
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 1: the Bills. We are in a good spot. Go Bills. Yeah,

1407
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: I get it, but as I said on the show yesterday,

1408
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 1: the Dolphins won two combination receiver is better than what

1409
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: the Bills can do one two right now. And if

1410
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: the Jets get ob j he and Garrett Wilson are

1411
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,560
Speaker 1: one two combination, that's probably better than bad either. And

1412
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:17,719
Speaker 1: Mikole Hardman think, Yeah, that's Alan Lazard, Mikole Hardman, Garrett Wilson.

1413
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 1: That's pretty good right there. It's pretty good. Um, that's

1414
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: a good group. That's yeah. I mean it's it's gonna

1415
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: teams are chasing them down, no question. The Bills are

1416
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: certainly in the in the front running front running. I

1417
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: don't know, though the Bills played really well against Aaron

1418
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: Rodgers last year here in this building. Um, I don't know.

1419
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: Our quarterback is still the best one in the division. Yeah,

1420
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: let's go to the phones where Dennis in North Carolina

1421
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,600
Speaker 1: is waiting. What do you got for us? Dennis? Hey, So,

1422
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: first of all, I want to say I've been a

1423
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 1: Billie fas nine ninety. Steve's asker has always been my

1424
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: favorite player of all time. There you go. We need

1425
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 1: another player that can cover kickoff and covertors like Steve

1426
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: Is back in the day. Well, I appreciate it what

1427
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 1: else is on your mind? Uh, well, I want to

1428
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:24,719
Speaker 1: uh about what y'all think about. Buffalo drafted Taylor Highatt

1429
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: from Tennessee and uh and going after some defensive help

1430
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: because right now all branded being's done is getting offense

1431
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: and we need some defense. Yeah, I mean, I think it.

1432
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of going by the board with

1433
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: the focus on the offense so much this offseason that

1434
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 1: there are some holes on the defensive side of the ball.

1435
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,759
Speaker 1: They need help at middle linebacker obviously with the departure

1436
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: Tremine Edmonds, and they probably need some defensive tackle help,

1437
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: not only because they only have three under contract. Those

1438
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: three under con tracked all have expiring contracts after this season,

1439
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: so you kind of kind of have to plan for

1440
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: now and the future to have people, you know, in

1441
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: the pipeline at that position. So yeah, there are some

1442
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: decisions to be made on the defensive side of the ball,

1443
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: no question. And Jalen Hyatt out of Tennessee six foot,

1444
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 1: he's a little slight, He's only a hundred he's les

1445
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: than one hundred and eighty pounds, so he's tall, slender kit.

1446
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 1: But I watched him play. I think it was the

1447
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: Clemson game. I watched that game live as it was happening.

1448
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: I was on TV, but I was watching it live,

1449
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 1: and I remember he caught my eye. A good player

1450
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 1: down the list on wide receivers, and certainly at number

1451
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: twenty seven. I bet more than one of the guys

1452
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 1: above him on the list are going to be available,

1453
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: maybe not all of them. So I don't know that

1454
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: the Bills would like Jalen Hyatt better than they like

1455
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 1: any the other prospects. But I don't have a problem

1456
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: with that. He's six foot and like I said, he's

1457
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: a little bit slender. Well, he's got a high cut,

1458
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: sprinter kind of frame. Yeah, that's what his body type is.

1459
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,560
Speaker 1: And he ran a limited rout tree. Now he's not

1460
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: alone in that. There's a lot of college receivers that

1461
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: run a limited rout tree. But he pretty much just

1462
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: ran slants, deep posts, and goes. And I just wonder

1463
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 1: how his high cut frame is gonna do getting in

1464
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: and out of breaks if you ask him to do

1465
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 1: more than those routes. He may have only run those

1466
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: routes for that very reason, because he can't get in

1467
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: and out being so high cut, because he's long legged,

1468
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 1: which certainly gives him breakaway speed, which is attractive, but

1469
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: from what I've seen on film, for him, it's build

1470
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: up speed. He's not quick off the line, and he's

1471
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 1: at top speed in three steps. He's a build up

1472
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: speed guy. Now when he gets to top speed, he's

1473
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: pretty dang fast, but it's a build up speed guy.

1474
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 1: And some people knock him and say he's kind of

1475
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: a one trick pony. Yeah, maybe strictly outside limited rout tree.

1476
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 1: And there are guys with fewer question marks about him

1477
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:58,599
Speaker 1: that may be available Quentin Johnson, Jackson Smith and Jigba

1478
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison. Some people have Zay Flowers above him. You know,

1479
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys on the list of wide receiver.

1480
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 1: Now I'm Hyatt is in the middle of it, But

1481
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 1: I don't you know, whether he's the guy they like

1482
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: better or not remains to be seen. I wouldn't be

1483
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 1: surprised if they take a guy at that position, even

1484
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: if it's not Yeah Hyatt, And I don't know. Hyatt

1485
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 1: strikes me as a top half of the second round

1486
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: type guy, but who knows. If there's a run at

1487
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: the bottom round one, maybe he sneaks into the bottom

1488
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: of the first round, and maybe the Bills love him.

1489
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, there there seems to be

1490
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 1: some limitations to his game, and maybe it's because he

1491
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: hasn't been asked to do some of the other things.

1492
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 1: Maybe his game is more diversified than that. We just

1493
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: haven't seen it on tape. What Jalen Hyat's gonna tell

1494
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,440
Speaker 1: everybody to do is go watch his tape against Alabama

1495
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: because he was a huge part of their upset of

1496
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: Alabama this year Tennessee. I think he had two touchdowns

1497
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 1: in that game, maybe three, but he had a big

1498
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: day against the Crimson Tide and the Tennessee's upset win

1499
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 1: that vaulted them into the number one spot in the country.

1500
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,879
Speaker 1: And the thing you like about him is as a freshman,

1501
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he was in ten games for the volunteers.

1502
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 1: As a sophomore, he was in thirteen games, and then

1503
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 1: as a junior. Now they're saying he's a little heavier

1504
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: than what he was listed at buck seventy five. Now

1505
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: he's ten pounds fifteen pounds heavier than that, which makes

1506
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: a big difference. So you know, he took he took

1507
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 1: Alabama's secondary to the cleaners for six receptions in two

1508
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 1: hundred yards. So that's a pretty good day and that

1509
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: says a lot about what he could do in a

1510
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: big moment. Let's go back to the tweet sheet where

1511
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 1: a tank says Bill's acquiring Hopkins as I am not

1512
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 1: sure how Bean would restructure his contract and make it

1513
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: fit under the cap would be the most wild scenario

1514
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: for me. Also, how would he fit in with Digs, Davis, Shakier,

1515
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: Hardy and Surefield. Dorsey would have to get a lot

1516
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: more creative in the offense than he did last year.

1517
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 1: I actually think he would have to get less creative.

1518
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: You have so much talent there. If you have so

1519
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 1: much talent there that can get open naturally, you don't

1520
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: have to scheme anything. Those guys are gonna win more

1521
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: often than not. I think it gets easier, right, That's

1522
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: that's the idea, No question, it's Digs and Hopkins. Are

1523
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Everybody else on the deaf charts getting

1524
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: one on ones on every single play? Yeah? Yeah, I

1525
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 1: would be really excited about that. Um, it doesn't mean

1526
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. It doesn't mean it's even that good

1527
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: an idea, because I don't know what Brandon Bean and

1528
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott knows. So I'm but I know this on

1529
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 1: the surface, DeAndre Hopkins is still at his age one

1530
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 1: of the top five wide receivers in the NFL. And

1531
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 1: when he's healthy and he's on that guy wins. M

1532
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 1: Bill's fans saw it in the Hail Murray Past four

1533
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: you three four years ago. You go watch his highlights

1534
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: and it's almost like a never ending story. I mean

1535
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: they go on and on and on and on. The

1536
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 1: guy catches the ball as well or better than every

1537
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 1: guy in the league. His hands are elite. No matter

1538
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 1: what happens, how only ever gets he'll be able to

1539
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: catch that ball like that when he's ninety ye. So yeah,

1540
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:11,639
Speaker 1: I'm all about it. I think it's an awesome idea

1541
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: and I'd love to see it happen. But it's like

1542
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:15,680
Speaker 1: one of those other things. It's like this seems too

1543
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 1: good to be true. Last tweet we'll read before the

1544
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 1: break from jt Rogers to the Jets. I'm not worried

1545
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 1: he'll be running for his life in the AFC East. Also,

1546
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 1: we own Lamar. I'm not worried about either one of

1547
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 1: those qbs joining the division. We would still have the

1548
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 1: best QB. So I would say Hopkins to Buffalo would

1549
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: make the offense unstoppable. Break time for us. Here, we'll

1550
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:37,600
Speaker 1: get some final thoughts on the tweet sheets. See if

1551
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: we can squeeze into phone call as well. Next on

1552
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 1: one Bills Live presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo

1553
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. I'm gonna take a call here quickly while

1554
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: we're short on time. We go to Mark in New Jersey.

1555
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: What do you got for a smart Hello, good afternoon, gentleman,

1556
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers here in New York. Oh my god, it'd

1557
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: be like a train wreck. You couldn't turn away from that.

1558
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 1: It's everything. The Jets are short sighted, cut off their

1559
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: nose despite their face. He liked him himself as an intellectual.

1560
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 1: Mean to tell me he went into a cave and

1561
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,560
Speaker 1: was ninety percent retired and then came out of the

1562
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: darkness that he re reinvigorated the play for the Jets. Yeah,

1563
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 1: it's it's, it's it's I don't know. It's it's like

1564
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 1: he likes to, I don't know. He thinks he's the

1565
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 1: smartest guy in a room. He's been insulated in Green Bay.

1566
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 1: He's gonna come to the Shark Tank and there's gonna

1567
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:51,600
Speaker 1: be reporters there that are gonna know what he's like

1568
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,879
Speaker 1: and try to goad him. It's it's it's good. It's obvious.

1569
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 1: That's it's good for business. Whether the Jets are the

1570
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 1: train wreck that they are, like Steve that Jets things

1571
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: when those things happen on Sunday, And if we watch

1572
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 1: Robert solid closely enough, he wasn't exactly the best game

1573
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 1: day coach. There's a lot of raw, raw and yuck

1574
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 1: yup to him that he doesn't quite have the wreck bravado.

1575
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: But it's there, it is definitely there. It just doesn't

1576
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, he's in shape and he's you know, more attractive,

1577
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 1: and he's a little younger, but it's definitely he likes

1578
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: to you know, he likes to you know, all gas,

1579
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: no breaks receipts. So it's gonna be an interesting NIX. Yeah,

1580
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: thanks for the calling. Mark. We gotta jump here because

1581
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,759
Speaker 1: we are short on time. I think that ninety percent

1582
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 1: retired comments. Steve and I talked about this just in

1583
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 1: our office. That is total posturing to threaten the packers.

1584
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 1: He's saying he's ninety percent retired, So the Packers don't

1585
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: even think about not moving him. Oh crap, we better

1586
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: move him now before he retires and we get nothing.

1587
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: So he says, I'm ninety percent retired, going into my cave.

1588
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,640
Speaker 1: That's all posturing. He wanted to play this year. Next

1589
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: year is a different story. But yeah, nothing would make

1590
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 1: me happier than to see it be a mess. That's right,

1591
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 1: and it may be, but you're right. Post game after

1592
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 1: a bad game is gonna be must watch television, no question. Yeah,

1593
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 1: last thing. Jack on the tweet sheet voted for Bills

1594
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 1: getting Hopkins. As much as I'd love to see it,

1595
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical though, because the cap and money. I believe

1596
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 1: Rogers and the Jets is a foregone conclusion and I

1597
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: hope ob J doesn't join him, and I don't even

1598
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 1: want to speak. Choice three into the carmisphere. Nope, nope, no,

1599
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 1: thank you. That was a fun thing. We got a

1600
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: little while today, but it worked. Everybody had fun. I

1601
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: hope you did too, Steve, I did. I enjoyed that

1602
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 1: very We'll see it tomorrow at one. Take care of everybody,