1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Really Radio. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: That is right, Kevin figures Adam also with you guys 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: Fox Football Saturday f and A on FSR. Hit us 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 2: up on the socials at kfig one and that follow 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: Adam A or is it a carb face? 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 3: Adam A? Today? 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: After our Thanksgiving? There, Adam, what do we got? 8 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 3: And you took a real hard look at me before 9 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 3: you said that. Just acquire reminds you know, there's more 10 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 3: of me to love now. I'm not the only one 11 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 3: who got fatter in the last forty eight hours. 12 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 2: You did take down a couple of cylinders of the 13 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: Pillsbury you know, cresset rolls, and you know. 14 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 3: Okay, so eight of them come in one cylinder, okay, 15 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: and I definitely had more than eight, okay. And I 16 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 3: probably took down a stick of butter along with my 17 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 3: Pillsbury dough boy. 18 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: That's a stick of butter each, right if I remember correctly. 19 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Okay, Hey makes or taste good. Hey, 20 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: it works for me. I went to town. How is your Thanksgiving? 21 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 3: They see it was great? Did you clean up? Did 22 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 3: you do all right? I did? Okay. 23 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: I kind of slowed down also as I get a 24 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 2: little bit older in age, I can't really take down 25 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: as much as I used to, you know, so so 26 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: just three plates, yeah exactly, so instead of nine plates, 27 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: have to take it down to six this year. But no, 28 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: I would say typically honestly back in the day, especially 29 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: when I was in my prime, and buy my prim 30 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: of me like a ginormous you know, bulbous looking fat ass. 31 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if I'm to be honest, I would 32 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 3: I would disagree with that. That's not how I. You've 33 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 3: seen the picture, okay, but that's a picture. It could 34 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: be a I from two. 35 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: I made job of the hut look like Calista Flocard 36 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: for God's sake. It was so bad back so back 37 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 2: then I was probably taking down you know, four or 38 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: five plates easily on a holiday. Well to this year, 39 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: I took down about one and a half two. 40 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 3: Do you ever feel like there was a time when 41 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 3: you're watching Joy Chestnut now and you're like back in my. 42 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: Prime, absolutely, like, yeah, I would have destroyed this gup 43 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: ninety five hot dogs please do that my. 44 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 3: Sleep and he gets to put the buns in the 45 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: water afterwards. That's seating. A week I put ketchup on mine. 46 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: I'm taking time, I'm romance in those buns. 47 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: Now, I'm just getting queasy seeing somebody like double fisting 48 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: a couple of regular dogs or whatever. 49 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: It was, Like, that's that's a lot to take down. Well, 50 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: you know, it's probably for the best. We're here, We're alive, 51 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: We made it through Thanksgiving, and the trip to fan 52 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: is behind us. 53 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: We got a three hour show for you guys. Sam straight, 54 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: damn straight coming up later in the show. Obviously, we 55 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: have our NFL six pack, like we have every week. 56 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: First time on the show, our coworker here at Fox 57 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: Sports Radio, our colleague Kerry Rhoades. We hear on End 58 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: Zone Sundays with Dan Byer gonna join us. Played for 59 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: the New York Jets and the Arizona Cardinal's gonna come 60 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: on to talk about what was a busy and still 61 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 2: will be a very busy week thirteen in the NFL. 62 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: Won't be the last time he comes on with us. 63 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: I hope we just have to like really just hammer 64 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 3: it home that we're the good guys around here. You 65 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: want to hang out with us, come truly FNA forever. 66 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 3: All right, Let's start things off, as we always do, 67 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: with a little first off there go time. 68 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: That's wrong, Adam know was hungry Chiefs and Ravens fans 69 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: hungky for answers. 70 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: That's what it is. How about that? Okay, both teams 71 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: six and six, both teams losing on Thanksgiving and we 72 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: actually he got some really good games on Thanksgiving. 73 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: We did what doesn't always happen, by the way, I 74 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: feel not and maybe it's anecdotal, but I feel like 75 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 2: more often than not, so now we've had this three 76 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: games slayed on Thanksgiving for what maybe like the last 77 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: fourteen year or something like that. 78 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I prefer the third game not on NFL 79 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: network and on MBC now that works out better. 80 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely, And I feel like, and like I said, 81 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: it's only anecdotal that two of the three most of 82 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: the time are just not entertaining to watch. 83 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: We got two of the three that were because the 84 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 3: last game, even still, people thought the Ravens were gonna 85 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: make a run and come back and win. 86 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, because how bad the Bengals have been and how 87 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: resilient the Ravens have been throughout this win streak. 88 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: Well, the Bengals defense is so bad, historically bad, Yet 89 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: the Ravens couldn't score on him. 90 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, five turnovers look pretty damn good to me. 91 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was impressed. That's what Joe Burrow does for you. 92 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: He comes back with his good looks. He's like a 93 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: movie star, film movie type of quarterback. That's what he 94 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: looks like out there, Like, I don't know what the 95 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: hell I'm watching. And I gotta say last week, I 96 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: was wrong. I don't say this very often. 97 00:03:59,600 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: I was. 98 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: I did plan on asking you about this at some point. 99 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: Of course, you are about them, whether or not to 100 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: bring Joe Burrow back into the lineup, and what is essentially, 101 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: although not mathematically eliminated quite yet, basically a lost season 102 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: for the Cincinnati Bengals. 103 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 3: Cool, dreamy Joe kind of won me over. He did 104 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 3: by what he said pregame. He made it, he made it, 105 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: he put it in just the right way. He said it. 106 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: He said, basically when all fans kind of want star 107 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 2: athletes have to say. 108 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 3: The quote is, we're getting paid a lot of money 109 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: to play a kid's game. I just want to put 110 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: on a show for the fans. He says. 111 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 2: I don't feel right being healthy and not playing, which yeah, 112 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: makes sense to me. I don't want to sit there 113 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: and just collect the check. 114 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 3: I get it. If you're healthy, play I would understand 115 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: if they if they were mathematically eliminated, or if there 116 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: was just two games left, how many games were left 117 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: for them? Six five or five six? Yeah, that's too many. 118 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 3: You can't just sit there on the sidelines with a 119 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: headset on or holding a clipboard when you're healthy to 120 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 3: go out there and play like. I can understand that 121 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: weighing on somebody as talented as him. 122 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: Organizationally speaking, I can certainly understand if they were to say, hey, Joe, 123 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: I understand that you're one hundred percent. That's great, but 124 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,119 Speaker 2: we're not going anywhere this year. With all due respect, 125 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: you've been injury prone, and you know what, that's not 126 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: even your fault. That's our fault because the infrastructure around 127 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: you has been terrible. Our offensive line, who actually didn't 128 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: play that badly on Thursday night, by the way. 129 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: They're like just outside the top ten of Pro Football Focus. 130 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: The defensive line has been much better this year than 131 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 2: people would have anticipated. But you know what, based on 132 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: all of that, we're just gonna sit you out. We're 133 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: going to make the executive executive decision will be the 134 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: bad guys will tell the media it was our decision 135 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 2: and they didn't do that. But you know what, you 136 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: brought this up last week too. They still got to 137 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 2: sell some tickets. You know, there's still games left in 138 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: the regular season. 139 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 3: There's still season tickets or PSLs or whatever it's called 140 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 3: that has to be done. That's probably a part of this. 141 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: But there is an outside shot they could still win 142 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: the division and get into the playoffs because the Ravens 143 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: they took, they took care of business and helped their 144 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 3: own cause there and the division. It's ancestual. There's so 145 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: many games between themselves right now. Are the AFC North 146 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: is Like, did you guys play each other once? It 147 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: doesn't seem like it right Like every game is just 148 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 3: an AFC North bloodbath type of gauntlet battle the rest 149 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: of the way here. Plus, look, yes, he could get 150 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 3: injured again, but it's also well, they have the entire 151 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: offseason to recover from that injury. Now if it's something catastrophic. 152 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 3: But you can't plan for all those things. You just can't. 153 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: If you're healthy, you're a football player, you probably should 154 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: be playing. 155 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't play, scared, just got to go out 156 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: there and play in Baltimore. And I'll say this too, 157 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: they have not really looked overly impressive, even over that 158 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: five game win streak that they had leading up to 159 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 2: this game. You've been saying this, especially offensively. Now, look, 160 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 2: win games, do whatever it takes to win, get into 161 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: the tournament. When you have a player like Lamar Jackson, 162 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: just get there can be enough and he can catch fire. 163 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: The problem is he's not been good. I would even 164 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: go back to maybe after the second half of that 165 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: Miami game. Even during this streak, offensively, they've just been 166 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: a shell of themselves. Defensively, they've improved a lot, and 167 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: I don't even put Thursday Night Lost on the defense, 168 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, He's on them all over 169 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: five times three of those turnovers coming in plus territory 170 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: are minus territory. That's hard for anybody to overcome. 171 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: That interview Lamar Jackson had near his own end zone 172 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: was pitifull, like that was just that can't happen. That 173 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: to me is lack of daisical to the point where 174 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: you feel like we can spot them ten points and 175 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: we can still come back. That's just not having a 176 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: sense of urgency out there whatsoever. And being ready for 177 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: the ball game. 178 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know if that means you just 179 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: feel that you're that much more superior than the Bengals, 180 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: which may be on paper you were, but again, they 181 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: get a shot in the arm by getting one of 182 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks in the league back in the lineup. 183 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: You kind of have to know that as the opponent. 184 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: And they had won five in a row against the Bears, Dolphins, Vikings, Browns, 185 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: and Jets. Here, so a lot of bad teams outside 186 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: the Bears. Yeah, there's four bad teams there, really bad teams. 187 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: They haven't proven themselves against top tier competition. And now 188 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: it's the Steelers next, then the Bengals again, the Patriots, 189 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: the Packers, and the Steelers in Pittsburgh their final game. 190 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: Now, one thing we talked about, Adam, and this is 191 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: something you harped on too, and saying, you know, don't 192 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: count Baltimore out when they're one and five is because 193 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: their schedule was not the most difficult. Now, at the time, 194 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: we didn't know the Patriots were going to be the 195 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: Patriots that they are. 196 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: Now the number one overall seed in the ANFC. 197 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: Right, we didn't know that the Bengals were going to 198 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: be resurgent with now Joe Burrow back in the mix 199 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: for them. 200 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: I didn't think he was coming back. 201 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so in Pittsburgh, we didn't know what to think. 202 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: You know, there were tops in the division. We knew 203 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: they had to play them two more times. But now 204 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, this thing looks like it's, to 205 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: your point, very much up in the air. With as 206 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: inconsistent as Pittsburgh has been, and I'll be I'm not. 207 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: I don't think I'm surprising anybody by saying I expect 208 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: them to lose the Buffalo, although Buffalo's not been consistent either, 209 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 2: but I expect Buffalo to be Pittsburgh. That means both 210 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: of those teams are going to be six and six 211 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: going into their matchup next Sunday. 212 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: That's going to be a huge one. I think the 213 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: one thing I didn't count on, and you touched upon 214 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 3: it to start off talking about that matchup on Thanksgiving, 215 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: was Lamar Jackson looking this poor. Well. I expected him 216 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: to be the one guy though, that you could rely 217 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 3: upon that would carry them if they were gonna have 218 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: a chance to win the AFC North. It was because 219 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson is just so damn good in playing at 220 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: an MVP level and he is going to bring you 221 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: along with him. The defense actually is playing better than him. Yeah, well, 222 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: he and he missed so many games in the year. 223 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: You're like, once he gets back healthy, comes back after 224 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: the bye week, he'll be healthy, he'll be fun. The 225 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: problem is he's not been healthy. He's just been nicked 226 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: up the entire season. 227 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: It's one. 228 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: If it's not one thing, it's another. And he's never 229 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: been fully one hundred percent, and it's one thing to 230 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 2: just kind of play through a couple of you know, 231 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: Tiki tech injuries here and there. He just doesn't look right. 232 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: Something is hampering him. 233 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: He doesn't look like Michael Vick two point zero right now. 234 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: By the way I was, I don't know, maybe I 235 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: was on the toilet looking up some things on my 236 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 3: phone on chat, GBT or something like that. I was 237 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: just bored. It's the holidays, You're gonna do what I want. 238 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: But I was looking at who's faster between him and 239 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: Michael Vick top speed, and it came out that he 240 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: ran a four point three three in the forty and 241 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: Michael Vick ran a four point three to two. But 242 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if well, Mars was electronically timed with 243 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: the new technology in Michael Vicks was just a stopwatch 244 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: back in the early two thousands either or late nineties 245 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: is when he was drafted. 246 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: I'm not really sure. I mean, they both were obviously 247 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: pretty damn dynamic. 248 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: That's what matters most above all things that are happening 249 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: right now in the NFL. Jackson Master, That's what I'm 250 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 3: here for. Still something Ryan tells you. 251 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: Baltimore Raven fans can give two damns about that at 252 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: this moment in time. 253 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: To be honest with you, Okay, but what about Vic 254 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: and Madden five on the cover that version of Michael Vick? 255 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: Could he be able to outspin him out? Ju Cam? Okay, 256 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: I don't know. I just those are two of my 257 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: favorite players ever to watch, obviously because they are like 258 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: video games out there, and I was just thinking to myself, Well, 259 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: Lamar's a little bit shiftier, he's a little bit smaller, 260 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: he's a little bit thinner. But what about top speed. 261 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 3: Remember that one time that Vic had the touchdown to 262 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: win the game against the Vikings, I think in overtime 263 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: with the two defenders when flying into one another, who 264 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 3: was actually the fastest quarterback of all time. Steve Young 265 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: was in the conversation Once upon a time. 266 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: This is a week thirteen discussion that we have right 267 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: here when we're talking about the NFL, is who's faster 268 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 2: between one guy that played twenty years ago and one 269 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: guy that's playing now. 270 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 3: All right, a fast segue out of my terrible transition 271 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: there offsheet of a subject. 272 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 2: Well before we transition off of the Baltimore Ravens though, 273 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: So we talked about how they got off to the 274 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: slow start. There were one in five. You thought they'd 275 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: surge back and won the division as we sit right now, Adam, 276 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: since you spoke so boldly about your confidence in them 277 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: and being able to come back and win the AFC, 278 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: North predicted not wrong yet. So I'm saying, I was like, 279 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 2: have you changed your temb based on what you know? 280 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: Okay? Because you just said you expect Buffalo to beat 281 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: the Steelers this week? Do I expect them? 282 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: Both teams to be six and six going into their 283 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: matchup next weekend? 284 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 3: So Baltimore's fine, They're gonna get help from Buffalo. I 285 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 3: think the same thing is going to happen against Aaron 286 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: Rodgers with him just having one healthy right risk currently, 287 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: so they're not in that bad of shape. They could 288 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: afford a loss like this because they had won five 289 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 3: in a row and righted the ship and the Steelers 290 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: came back to the pack. So it's right about where 291 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: I thought it would be. I said when I made 292 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: that bold proclamation. It's still going to come down to 293 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 3: the final game between them at the end of the season, 294 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: so they're gonna be jockeying back and forth for position 295 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 3: in the AFC North. But yeah, that's a huge game 296 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: next week is that game? Oh, it's an early game. 297 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: It is. When do the flexes start? When do we 298 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: start flexing things to Sunday night football? Because I feel 299 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: like Ravens Raven Steelers is as close as you can 300 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: get to a playoff game right now. 301 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: And you're gonna get a lot of eyeballs to a 302 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: big time fan basis. 303 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not. 304 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: I felt like the flexing started this upcoming weekend, like 305 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: Week thirteen, Week fourteen, but still have some crappy games 306 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: in primetime. 307 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: So I'm doing a pos down like Ronnie Coleman to 308 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 3: get that game into Sunday Night Prise Bowl. But some 309 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: were saying that actually the first playoff game was between 310 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: Dallas and Kansas City on Thanksgiving Day, and those typically 311 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: get a great Dallas Cowboys matchup or a very good 312 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 3: lines matchup. We got both, and the Dallas Cowboys came through. 313 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 3: Their defense looks better. They were able to stop Patrick Mahomes, 314 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: who when their backs are against the wall, you just 315 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 3: expect Kansas City to win and pull those type of 316 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 3: games out. Didn't happen, should you? 317 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: You realize that last year, and we talked about it 318 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 2: coming into this season. They were eleven to zero in 319 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: one score games last year when they won fourteen games, 320 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 2: whatever it was, it was a lot one in six 321 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: and one score games this year. Look, we thought the 322 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: pentulum was gonna swing back a little bit. I didn't 323 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: think it was literally gonna go all the way to 324 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 2: the other end of the column. 325 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: Who's our guy that's always tweeting you up on Friday 326 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: nights and saying look out for KC is still gonna 327 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: win the division? Here they come. 328 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: Look if I said this last year, and I haven't 329 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: brought Eloi up by name when we talked, we did 330 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: the NFL six pack, and I say, Kansas City Chiefs 331 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 2: and your fans, you better watch out like you are 332 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 2: in real danger of potentially missing the postseason. 333 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: I will not say they got lucky. 334 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: And beating Indianapolis last week, because I know they were 335 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: down double digits, but the Colts were not playing that well, 336 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 2: to be honest with you. The Chiefs just kind of 337 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 2: shot themselves in the foot to start that game, and 338 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: that's why the Colts got out to a decent enough 339 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: So I put that mora on Kansas City just playing 340 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: poorly and finding way to scrap and come back in 341 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 2: the second half. I give them credit for that because 342 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: sans that. Could you imagine if they were lost last 343 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: week and would have lost on Thursday night. 344 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: It might be over already. 345 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: It might look it might anyway at six and six 346 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: right now, the way he is gonna be e or 347 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: and a little bit here. Hey, you know, there's just 348 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: a lot for them to be able to overcome. The 349 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: defense is still statistically solid in most areas outside of 350 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: rushing the past, of which they're bad at. But they 351 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: got exposed against Dallas. You know, you can say Dallas 352 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: is one of the best offices in the NFL. Sure, 353 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: Dallas got shut down by Denver. So if you could, 354 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: if you tout yourself as a big time, you know 355 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: unit on the defensive side that can match up with anybody. 356 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: And nobody loves de spec nolo as much as I do. 357 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: That's a that's a game where your defense has to 358 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: be able to step up and they weren't able to 359 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 2: do it. 360 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: And Dak Press and Prescott he's had a marvelous year. 361 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 3: If they make the playoffs, he should get MVP VOS. 362 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: I don't disagree he should. 363 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: Look I said this coming into that people say, like 364 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: the Cowboys didn't do squad last year, is like, well, 365 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: you don't have your quarterback. That's gonna happen when he 366 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: misses half the season. 367 00:14:59,720 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: Shot. 368 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: Look at the Cincinnati Bengals right now. What if Joe 369 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: Burrow hadn't gotten hurt and I'd been playing this entire time, 370 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: maybe they're in the division leader right now in the 371 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: AFC North. That always makes a difference. One thing I 372 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: will say, the big thing about Kansas City they have 373 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: working against him is the fact that they can't run 374 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: the ball. Even if you look at the numbers, I 375 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: think the middle of the pack, but if you watch 376 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: them actually play the game, they're not really a run threat. 377 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: And I think most teams know that. So you take 378 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: away Pat Mahomes in the passing game, it look they're 379 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: still great. They still make their sure of plays. On 380 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: Thursday against the Cowboys, It's not Dallas ran him off 381 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: the field by any stretch. 382 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 3: Mahomes still had a superman like play where he's falling 383 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: to the turf and he gets that pass off on 384 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: what a fourth down or whatever it was. 385 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, four touchdown passes, didn't turn the ball over. I mean, 386 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: you can't ask Patrick Mahomes to do more than he's 387 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: already doing. But the guy needs help. And one thing 388 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: I thought about too, I think one of the best 389 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: things that could happen to Kansas City. And I'm not 390 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: saying this just because I'm a Raider fan. I think 391 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: missing the playoffs is probably one of the best things 392 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: that can happen for the organization and the fans. Really, 393 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: there's a certain element of like, if you continue to win, 394 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: your flaws don't seem that big, that big of a 395 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: deal to you. So sometimes it takes like a shock 396 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: to the system for you to say, like, oh, all right, 397 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: this is really an issue, because if it weren't, we'd 398 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: be in a much different position than we are now. 399 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: He actually said that with them after the Super Bowl 400 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: against the Buccaneers because of their offensive line. That's right, 401 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: and how they were getting to Patrick Mahomes, who made 402 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 3: some spectacular plays and was trying to do everything out there, 403 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 3: but they were just letting the Buccaneers rush him the 404 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: entire time because the offensive line was beat up. 405 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: It was a turnstile at that point, so they had Look, 406 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: they've addressed the offensive line a little bit these last 407 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: couple of years. It's still not great, but it's certainly improved. 408 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: They got to find a way, and this has been 409 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 2: a criticism of Andy Reid, going back to his Philadelphia days, 410 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: a time where he would get away from the run 411 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: game and get a namber throwing the ball with whether 412 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: it was Vick or McNabb or whoever, you just gotta 413 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: be able to keep defenses honest at a certain point. 414 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: As great of a quarterback as Pat Mahomes is, you know, 415 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: he is Superman to a degree, but even Superman has kryptonite. 416 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: Not to be too cliche, the guy can't do it 417 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: all by himself. Every single solitary week. You got to 418 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: get the guy at least some legitimate threat of a 419 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: run game, just to keep defense a little bit honest, 420 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: and that's something they've not been able to do really 421 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: probably the last four. 422 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 3: Years, to be honest with you. So you are kind 423 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 3: of lex Luger to start off this season talking about 424 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: Kansas City Chiefs, but you still had them making the playoffs, 425 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: I believe, just not winning the division, say they'd be 426 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 3: a wildcard. I'm gonna ask you a question now, since 427 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: you confroned me about what I said about the Ravens 428 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: a month or so ago, where do you see Kansas 429 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 3: City ending up now? 430 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: As of right now, I will still say that they 431 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: make it in but it is very much cheetering because 432 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: you also have to consider they don't have the easiest schedule. 433 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: They play Houston next week. That can be a de 434 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 2: facto playoff game. Houston is right in the division race 435 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: and they have a big game against the Colts this weekend. 436 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: But they're also knocking on the door of the AFC 437 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: wildcard race too with five losses I. 438 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: Believe it is. And after that is the Chargers the. 439 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: Charges, which is a division game. I know they're beat up, 440 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: but they're getting a little bit healthier now. Amario Hampton 441 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: might be back for them coming up next weekend for 442 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 2: that game against Kansas City or in two weeks, I 443 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: should say. And look, they have a couple of cupcakes 444 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: sandwiched in between a game with the Denver Broncos. I 445 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: think they have the Titans, and they finished off with 446 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 2: the right with the Raiders. They do, so it's not 447 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 2: necessarily the easiest schedule down the stretch here for Kansas City, 448 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: there's not you can't say, maybe you can bake in 449 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 2: the Titans and Raiders as easy victories, sure, but the 450 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: other three are absolute toss ups. 451 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 3: I just like seeing a team like this, maybe at 452 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: the end of their run, before they do a retool, 453 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: as you were mentioning earlier, being in a state of 454 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 3: desperation where they have no room for error and they 455 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: just have to go out there and win. I'm interested 456 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: to see what happens now. I kind of thought felt 457 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 3: like that coming into the Dallas Cowboys game, and I 458 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 3: thought they were gonna win that one. But now Dallas 459 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: is a team that feels like, oh, hey, we can 460 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 3: run the table here and we make the playoffs in 461 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: the NFC. 462 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 2: So yeah, And I speaking of the Dallas Cowboys, I 463 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: want to talk about them and their nfcast counterpart who 464 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: took it on the chin on Friday night. I was 465 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: against the resurgent Chicago Bears. 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Do we 499 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 3: want to touch upon the Detroit Lions losing and well. 500 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 2: Practically yeah, oh, it was a huge game in the 501 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: in the the NFC, NFC North with Green Bay who 502 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 2: has been fairly inconsistent despite their record at now what 503 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: eight three and one, but just not your super Bowl 504 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: pick by the way out of the NFC and just have. 505 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: You say it like that, your super Bowl pick. 506 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 2: Well, look, there's there's there's kind of a connection here 507 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: to the bear to a certain degree too, like the 508 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: finding ways to win even though it might not be 509 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: the prettiest at times. 510 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and so stole points count more in 511 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 3: the college football playoff rankings, for sure. 512 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 2: Thousand and we'll get into that a little bit later, 513 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: for sure, because there are some huge shakeups when it 514 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: comes to that. Yes, but even look Jordan Love with 515 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: the four touchdown passes, and as good as they looked offensively, 516 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: his efficiency numbers still. 517 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: Are not that great. 518 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 2: I'll say this, two percentage isn't that high. But he 519 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: makes plays when he needs to. He makes all the 520 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 2: important throws when necessary. 521 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: That game, the way they came out and through the ball, 522 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: it was he was dropping bombs. Was like they knew 523 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: going in, Okay, we're taking on Detroit. In Detroit, Jared Goff, 524 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: They're probably gonna put up some points. We have to 525 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: play like this is what's the old cliche of, you know, 526 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: field goals lose you games. Touchdowns win you games. It's 527 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 3: not a field goal type of game. You have to 528 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 3: get six. You got to get that extra point in 529 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 3: there too. You got to do it all right. And 530 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 3: they had the right mindset for once, like they let 531 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: loose with Jordan Love a little bit more instead of 532 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 3: playing it safe because they knew it would likely be 533 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: a high scoring game. 534 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, which ended up being I mean, neither offense really 535 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: got slowed down a whole lot, and honestly, for Detroit, 536 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: as it often always does, turn it over on downs 537 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: a couple of times, that ends up biting you a 538 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 2: little bit. Now, again I'm not necessarily critical of when 539 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: they decided to go for it. There was like a 540 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: fourth and three from like midfield at that point. I 541 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: think it was like in the second quarter in that situation. 542 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily mind it too much. Yeah, So it's just. 543 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: Like Campbell's gonna Dan Campbell, that's the new riverboat Ron. 544 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: But to a certain degree I understand, Like, again, this 545 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 2: is the mentality that he's built into his team. His 546 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: team knows they're going to be the defense knows that, 547 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: the offense knows that they probably know on third down, 548 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 2: if it's third and eight and we get four yards, 549 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: we're going forward on fourth down. It's already baked into 550 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 2: our game plan. We know what's happening. 551 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: And when it is like that, I appreciate it. When 552 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 3: you know you're in four down territory and you're calling 553 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: plays accordingly because you know you're gonna be aggressive like 554 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: he always is. That's fine, and the rest of the league, 555 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: by the way, plays the analytics more than ever. Anyways, 556 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: He's just an extreme version of that, you could say. 557 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 3: But they're seven to five now. They're behind not just 558 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: Green Bay, but the Bears, who won earlier in Philadelphia. 559 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: And by the way, right there with the Dallas Cowboys 560 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: with HM, I wonder who they play next. That's right, 561 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lines play the Cowboys next. That can be 562 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: a playoff elimination. 563 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 3: Game, right there. Where's that game at I have to. 564 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 2: Double check on that. I believe it's in Detroit. I 565 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: believe it's in Detroit. Say Detroit, that's on Thursday night. 566 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: I know it's coming up this Thursday night. 567 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. So it's in Detroit. 568 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 2: Bre says, yeah, so that's a huge game for both teams. 569 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 3: Okay, so we're getting this Dallas Cowboys surge late in 570 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 3: the season working in our favor as the viewers. We 571 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: needed them to trade Michael Parsons to start slow, to 572 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 3: eventually trade for Quinn Williams. They're turning things around their 573 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 3: offense was always there. The defense is starting to catch 574 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 3: up and it's creating some high drama on the NFL. 575 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 2: Schedule, just like Jerry Jones doing up right. 576 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 3: He's all about it. Jerry Jones knows more drama than 577 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: T and T. T and T don't know drama like 578 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 3: Jerry Jones. He knew exactly what he was doing when 579 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 3: he started this entire thing. 580 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: Let's trade one of the best players of the NFL 581 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: at the start of the season so everybody can talk 582 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: about us. Let's suck for about a month and a 583 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 2: half two months so everybody can talk about how much 584 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: of a disaster we are. Let's make another trade for 585 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: another good defensive player up front, and then let's change 586 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: the entire narrative for now. How people say that we're 587 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 2: a potential Super Bowl consender. Some people are saying, well, 588 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: I won't go that far. 589 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 3: The mad genius is working things out. But I'll say this, 590 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: when you talk about the NFC North and the connections 591 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: and how everybody's tied together here, well, Ben big Johnson, 592 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: former OC with the Detroit Lions, has his team at 593 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: the top of the division at nine and three. I 594 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 3: never would have seen this come in nine and three 595 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 3: in this division, ahead of the Packers and the Detroit Lions. 596 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 3: So if the Lions end up somehow not making the 597 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 3: playoffs here all that talk in the offseason of they're 598 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: losing their coordinators, how are they going to be able 599 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: to respond to that? And then more eyeballs and more 600 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: of a hot seat will be on Dan Campbell, like, 601 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 3: you're not hiding behind your oc anymore. 602 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: To us air, I mean hide good hot seat in 603 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: that people are gonna say maybe a little bit of 604 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 2: the shine is off, not hot seat, and that he's 605 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: in danger of losing his job. 606 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: You remember a couple of years ago when they lost 607 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 3: that playoff game to the forty nine ers, and he 608 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 3: was like, I don't know if we're ever going to 609 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: get this far again. 610 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 2: That was the NFC championship game. Correctly, yes, that's very hard. 611 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 3: Some of these guys will not be on the team again, 612 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 3: and we may have missed our shot. So that's why 613 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 3: he was so heartbroken. Maybe that will be as far 614 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: as they ever go because they came back, we are 615 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 3: the number one seed last year and then get upset 616 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 3: by the Commanders. 617 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 2: Well look, I mean, look, you still have golf, you 618 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 2: still Frank Reagan I was coming out of retirement. I 619 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: guess at the right time, it will help that offensive line. 620 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 2: I don't know how hell soon before he gets thrown 621 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: into into the starting lineup Frank the tank. But this 622 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: idea that the shine is off and the Detroit Lions 623 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: are going back to be the old Detroit Lions. I'm 624 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: not willing to go that far that quick, that this soon, 625 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: not that far. 626 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: I mean, they're not gonna gozh and sixteen, They'll go 627 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: own seventeen. 628 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 2: I gotta give Dan Campbell a little bit of credit. 629 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: It's just seedingly rare that you have a New England 630 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: Patriot or Kansas City. And maybe it's not that re 631 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: considering they both basically happened, you know, in back to back, 632 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: you know, decades, whatever you want to call it. But 633 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 2: to have this long standing dynasty of winning eleven, twelve, 634 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: thirteen games a year, nobody does that. Heaven't forbid the 635 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions have a step half a half step back 636 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 2: and have a ten and seven season. 637 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 3: The only question is, I'm not saying they're going back 638 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: to the dark ages. I am wondering if they missed 639 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: the playoffs somehow this season. Did they miss their window 640 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 3: because at one point Dan Campbell thought about that. So 641 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna definitely be thinking about it if we're two 642 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: years past that. 643 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: The NFC championship. Yeah, I feel like coaches say this 644 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 2: stuff all the time. He's talking about this team. I've 645 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 2: never had a team be as tight as these guys. 646 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: I think he might've literally just been talking about that 647 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: team in that particular season. Yeah, so I less and 648 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 2: less about the core of the team. 649 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 3: If you go from an NFC championship to get the 650 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 3: number one overall seed, being upset by the Commanders in 651 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 3: the second round in the divisional round, and then the 652 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 3: next season you end up not making the playoffs, there 653 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 3: is a clear regression going on. But I guess we 654 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 3: still have time to see. I gotta give them time. 655 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 3: I can't. 656 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: I mean, how many times does the the Peyton Mannings 657 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 2: Colts make the playoffs one seed and the team at 658 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: the time they won the championship they got in is 659 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: like a wild card. I'm not saying you're saying it's over, 660 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 2: like they have no chance of competing after this, like 661 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: it's all over, it's done. 662 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 3: Forget it. Well, back it up. You're talking about tent 663 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 3: when you're talking about Detroit like airing on the safe 664 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 3: side is saying it's overtypically, if. 665 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 2: You play the numbers, I guess that makes sense. I'm 666 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: not willing to call it quits. I say, you know, 667 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: they they've been so they've been so good since what 668 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, I believe his second season at the Helme. 669 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: It's only been with three four years. I'm willing to 670 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: give him a mulligan of a season to see how 671 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: they come back next year. 672 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 3: Well, we always say progress isn't linear. Regression usually isn't either. 673 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 3: And the other side of this, with the Chicago Bears 674 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 3: and Ben Johnson, what they're doing right now doesn't Garret Oh, 675 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: They're going to be the favorites next season because they'll 676 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: have Caleb Williams in his third year and his second 677 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 3: year with Ben Johnson. That's not how things work. They're 678 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: winning right now. They won a lot of close games. 679 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: They've come through late, and today's game was no different. 680 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: I mean, they beat the Eagles at their own game, 681 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: or at least what their own game used to be. 682 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 3: Ran the ball down there. 683 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 2: The Eagles can't run a look at this point in time, 684 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: but two rushers Monongui in swift, both over one hundred yards. 685 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 3: It's incredible. I just couldn't believe. I think it was 686 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: the fourth and three that didn't go for early in 687 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, and they showed a shot of the 688 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: Eagles fans and there were a couple of guys swearing 689 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: in green Mexican wrestler masks. That was the highlight of 690 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: the season to me so far. 691 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: Or were they actually swearing in Spanish or were they 692 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: swearing in English? 693 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. Is I karumba thing or like all 694 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 3: I knew is they were shaking their fists of the 695 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: fact they weren't going for it and they just can't 696 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: move the ball. They can't do anything on offense, particularly 697 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: at some point they have I think the highest on 698 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball in the NFL, and 699 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 3: they can't get it together. And at some point you 700 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 3: keep giving them the benefit of the doubt over and 701 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 3: over again, like we've done in the past with KC. 702 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: And last year they figured it out, they got to 703 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, they got run by the Eagles, but 704 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: still Eagles win the Super Bowl. And we're still waiting 705 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: for them to engage in this season and look like 706 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 3: a team that could still just find a way to 707 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 3: win a bunch of close games in the playoffs and 708 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 3: make it back there. I don't know if that team's 709 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: ever walking through the door, though it doesn't look like 710 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 3: it will. 711 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: And by the way, we're talking about, you know, teams 712 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 2: coming up out of nowhere, and the Dallas Cowboys creeping. 713 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: You realize there are only one game back of the 714 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: Eagles in the lost column in the NFC East. You 715 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: realize that, right, And they got a win on them. 716 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 2: They have a win on them, shut them out in 717 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: the second half last week. As bad as Dallas looked 718 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: in the first half, I would say, specifically the first 719 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 2: quarter of that game against Philadelphia last week, the second 720 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: half was ridiculous, absolutely insane. 721 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: So the Dallas Cowboys have just beaten the last two 722 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 3: Super Bowl participants and winners at the same and back 723 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: to back weeks. The Bears beating them, though, I don't know, 724 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: should that be the bigger story here than the Eagles losing. 725 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 3: It depends. 726 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: Well, say, look, it's big for the Bears because the 727 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: Bears have been so bad for so long. They've been 728 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: able to do nothing offensively. It's been an embarrassment the 729 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: last couple of years. Caleb Williams, as we've talked about, 730 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: that nauseaum has been proved. 731 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: Even though his numbers might not be. 732 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: The most spectacular. Have They've been able to run the 733 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: ball though the Bears have been, you know, fluctuated between 734 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: the best or second best run team in the entire league. 735 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: And to your point, they kind of out eagled the 736 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: Eagles on Friday Night. That's the most impressive part to 737 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: me that the mentality of the team has completely changed 738 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: overnight under Ben Johnson, who was lauded as this quarterback 739 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: whisperer that's supposed to fix Caleb Williams, he's in the 740 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: process of doing that. But in the process of doing that, 741 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: he's turned them to a physical, tough, running football team 742 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: that is not going to be bullied. And I think 743 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: that's as impressive as anything. 744 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: I think it's actually brilliant. You fix him by having 745 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 3: him do less, Yes, because you can run the ball, 746 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 3: You're putting less pressure on him. You only let him 747 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 3: do plays that he's actually comfortable with. They have thirty 748 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: three offensive touchdowns now on the season. That matches the 749 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 3: amount they had all of last year. Last year on 750 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 3: Black Friday, they're firing their head coach. Now they're gonna 751 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: give Big Ben Johnson a Heroes welcome when he returns 752 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 3: back to Chicago, always taking. 753 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: A shirt off and doing the celebration in the locker room. 754 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 2: I mean, Shytown's on fire right now. It's incredible. 755 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: Look. 756 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 3: I did like to hire a lot because he was 757 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 3: very creative with what he did with the Detroit Lions. 758 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: But I still didn't see this coming in this division 759 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: and for them to be beating some of the best 760 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 3: teams in the NFL. 761 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: Nobody, Mark, Mark Ramsey, our resident Bears fan, You cannot 762 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: honestly tell me that you saw the Chicago Bears being 763 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,479 Speaker 2: nine and three at this point in the season, did you. 764 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 4: No. 765 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 3: I was just hoping that they could win and win decently, 766 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 3: and that looked like bums all the time. And better 767 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: than that. 768 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, just knock on the door of five hundred and 769 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: not embarrass yourselves out there. 770 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 3: Just not embarrass yourself. 771 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: You know, at least be able to score a touchdown 772 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: and field goal. 773 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 3: They're making the opposition look like bums out there. They 774 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 3: had the first one hundred yard rusher on the Eagles 775 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: in their last thirty four games over the last two seasons. 776 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: They're the first to have one hundred yard rusher against 777 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 3: the Eagles. More impressive as that they had two hundred 778 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 3: yard rushers by the way, it was a clinic. It's 779 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: it's impressive. I think the only reason I'll go back 780 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: to the question that I asked you quiz hotshot, like, 781 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: what's the bigger story here between the Eagles and the Bears. 782 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: We still don't believe the Bears are a true contender. 783 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: We're still looking to see if the Eagles want to 784 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: be this season, So the story might still be in 785 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 3: the losing locker room. Has Ben Mallow would always say. 786 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the story is definitely with the Eagles 787 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: because the problem is we've seen them do it. Yeah, 788 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: we saw them get down big against the Rams and 789 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: find a way to come back on the backs of 790 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: their passing game. Like we've seen it a couple of 791 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: times this year where they've been down and they found 792 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: ways to come back and win. The problem is now 793 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: we're getting down to as people would say, nut cutting 794 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: time and kind of you know, figuring out, you know, 795 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: who's real and who's not. They're playing their worst at 796 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: the worst time of the season. There's still five weeks 797 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: to be able to figure it out. Sure, they can 798 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,719 Speaker 2: turn it around, they can catch fire. But the problem 799 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: is they've been in the midst of being able to 800 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: win games while not playing their best and it's actually 801 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: starting to catch up with them now. 802 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 3: Well, and they've had these locker room issues. 803 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: Oh well, you know, he had two touchdowns on Friday, 804 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: So hopefully he's happy because that's all that matters. 805 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 3: Right, So does this prove is this proof of concept? 806 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 3: Like no, playing through you doesn't help us win, Like 807 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 3: we need to run the ball again, we need to 808 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 3: get back to Eagles football. And I don't think this 809 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 3: is the case. 810 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: But there's times where people have said, like, you know, 811 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: maybe they just throw the throw the ball to the 812 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: guy fifteen times in a losing effort just to prove 813 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 2: to him like, look, we can give the ball as 814 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: many times as you want. That's not the recipe for 815 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 2: success for us to win. 816 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 3: And then aj Brown post game says, y'all loss. I mean, 817 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 3: I'm good I didn't lose. Y'all loss. I mean they've 818 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 3: been through it with TL before. But look, they caused 819 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 3: the Denver game. 820 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 2: I think that was where he had he had a 821 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: huge game but they ended up losing, come from a 822 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: head to passion at that. 823 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 3: They have the Chargers next. Oh, that's a Monday night 824 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 3: game December eighth. That's a home game for them. Then 825 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 3: they get the Raiders at at home, then at Washington, 826 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 3: at Buffalo, and then Washington again. It's not the hardest schedule. 827 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 3: They're in pretty good shape because of that. And so 828 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 3: they split with Dallas obviously they went one and one. 829 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 3: Tie breakers come down to head to head, then divisional 830 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 3: record correct, and then conference record. Yes, they're probably still 831 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 3: winning the NFC East. Honestly, I think that's that is. 832 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 3: I don't want to say a foregone conclusion, but they're 833 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 3: really going to have to trick it off, as the 834 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 3: kids say, for them to not win the division. 835 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: Statistically, they're the favorite to do it. But I'll put 836 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 2: it this way, based on what I've seen of them 837 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,959 Speaker 2: this year, would not surprise me. If they collapsed, would 838 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 2: not surprise me at all. 839 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 3: Now I'm thinking about eminem till I collapse. Exactly was 840 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 3: he lipsinging or not? Could you tell? I never thought 841 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 3: about it. He sounded too good. It's next to Jack White. 842 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 3: That was too good of a performance for me to believe. 843 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 3: Actually that was Super Bowl performances, and we got it 844 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 3: on a Thanksgiving halftime shot. 845 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: I know I was producing it. I didn't realize he 846 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 2: was actually going to be performing with Jack White. That 847 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: was incredible. 848 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: He ain't lying too about the till I collapse. Like 849 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: he's fifty five or something now and he's still doing 850 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 3: this stuff. So until he collapses, he's going to be 851 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 3: doing it all right. What's coming up next? Oh, we 852 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 3: got a little bit of stranger than fiction, you know what. 853 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 3: I know it's the holidays, but you actually might benefit 854 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 3: from not hanging out with your relatives and with your 855 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 3: family right now. I will tell you why. Coming up 856 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 3: next here on F and A on FSR. 857 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 4: It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum and 858 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 4: I'm all out of gum. 859 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 2: Fna, Cottonna, Welcome out to the Fox Sports Radio Studios, 860 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 2: Kevin Figures, Adam Allslin Fna. Here on FSR, Fox Football Saturday. 861 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 2: Coming up next hour, we will begin the Week thirteen 862 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: version of the NFL six Pack. But right now, Adam, 863 00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 2: let's get to it. 864 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 3: I passed through the customer defending Criticison called nine to 865 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 3: one one after her McDonald's run out of McNuggets. 866 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 6: Strange. 867 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 4: He can't give a drunk man riding a horse at 868 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 4: EWI and he got Unlike. 869 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 6: Cars words that don't have motors, they have a mind 870 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 6: in their own. 871 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 3: Strange twenty four year old man now jues they're throwing 872 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 3: an alligator through a drive through window. 873 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 4: Too high. 874 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: Change the fix. 875 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: Now, you say, it's the most wonderful time of the 876 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 3: year where you get to catch up with your family 877 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 3: and your loved ones and focus in on what's really 878 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 3: important in life, like eating more than the dude that 879 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 3: died in seven. But maybe you're the black sheep of 880 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 3: the family, or just don't get along well with certain relatives. 881 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 3: You do a friend's giving instead. Nothing wrong with that 882 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 3: or this a father earlier this week, a hunter in 883 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 3: Kentucky up in a deer stand. It gets like a 884 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 3: canopy up high, so you can be the laziest hunter 885 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 3: ever and get that bird's eye view and just pick 886 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 3: off the deer and the bucks that they're going by. 887 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 3: So fun in that I don't know is the retired 888 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 3: hunter thing. 889 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: It's like getting like the automatic hit stick on, like 890 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: the Sega Genesis where you can have a turbo button 891 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: that you hit, and you just have I Honda just 892 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 2: missed the crap out of somebody up on the corner 893 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 2: in the. 894 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: Street Fighter with the thousands slack so fun in that, Yeah, 895 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 3: just shooting down on your prey. So he was up 896 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 3: there and on his phone while he's bored waiting for 897 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 3: the next deer to come by, and he's playing online 898 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 3: lottery games, and he said, quote, I'm in the deer 899 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 3: stand and I was sitting there and I thought, you 900 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 3: know what I'm gonna try. And I got on there 901 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 3: and I won fifteen hundred dollars and then I added 902 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 3: another two hundred to my account. But the man who 903 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 3: will remain anonymous, I guess in case any of his 904 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 3: mooching relatives find out what happened next, he kept getting 905 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 3: calls from family members and he was ignoring them while 906 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 3: playing his lottery games on his phone up in the 907 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 3: deer stand, and said, quote, it was making me mad 908 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 3: because it was freezing up my phone from playing. Then 909 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 3: my son tries to call. I decline it. And then 910 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 3: it was the next thing. I hit. The sound is 911 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 3: a kind of rumbling sound, and I cannot play anymore. 912 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, there ain't no way. And then is echoing 913 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 3: throughout the woods. Well, that rumbling sound that he heard on 914 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 3: his phone was him winning one point one million dollars 915 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 3: off a thirty dollars wager on a lottery app. He 916 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 3: calls his wife, He sends her a photo to confirm 917 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 3: the win. He said, quote, I thought he was calling 918 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 3: me to tell me that he got a big buck. 919 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 3: Well he got a big buck, all right, a few 920 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it, he said. We're both crying and 921 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 3: stressing out. I probably would have fallen out of the 922 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 3: deer stand that dropped me like thirty forty feet if 923 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 3: I wasn't careful. So he won a million dollars basically 924 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 3: by ignoring his family. Yes, he's up there the hunter, 925 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 3: and it all works out in his favor because he 926 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 3: sent his son to h read or sent him straight 927 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 3: to voicemail. 928 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: So the moral of the story is never answer your 929 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 2: family's phone calls, is what you're saying, Adam. 930 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 3: I guess if my grandma calls me, I'm going straight 931 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 3: to like a gambling bedding app or something like that. 932 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 2: Sorry, granny plan planning this online? Uh poker? 933 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 6: What real? 934 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 3: Got a real good hand? Yeah? One point one million, 935 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 3: like I don't know. Catching up with the fam ain't 936 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 3: when it used to be. It's got nothing on playing 937 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 3: solitaire on your phone or playing the lottery. 938 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 2: I will not to go gruesome here, but imagine if 939 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 2: there was something that was actually happening of serious note 940 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 2: with his family and someone's trying to get in touch 941 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 2: with you and say someone said is definitely injured, and 942 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 2: he's like, oh, that's horror, but I want a million dollars. 943 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 3: Like I feel like that probably won't go over as well. 944 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 3: Just throw money at it. 945 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, you know what you know, I want a 946 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 2: million dollars. Cool, you're gonna pay for her medical bills then, 947 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 2: because you're good for it? 948 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 3: Right. Well, that's why I couldn't find the guy's name 949 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,399 Speaker 3: of the story. He's keeping himself anonymous because he still 950 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 3: doesn't want his Maybe his son doesn't even know yet. 951 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: Don't have to lie to myself and the rest of 952 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio audience at them. It's okay if 953 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 2: you ignore your family's phone calls. 954 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 3: Look, I'm not a hunter. This isn't me. Well, you 955 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 3: know I didn't win the million dollars, I wouldn't be here. 956 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, if you want a million dollars. 957 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 2: I would sit here by myself. That's for damn sure. 958 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 2: I know that for a fact. 959 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 3: It's for the love of the game. Like Joel Burrow, 960 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 3: ill be here. 961 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: You be coming here with a gold chain around your neck. 962 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 2: Coming up next to six pack here on fn A 963 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 2: on FSR. 964 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: Do're listening to Fox Sports Radio d that's right, hour 965 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 1: two of fn A on FSR here on Fox Football Saturday. 966 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 2: Looking forward to a big rivalry weekend in college football 967 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 2: coming up, looking forward to talking about that, looking forward 968 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 2: to talking to Kerry Rhodes. 969 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, later this hour, ad him. He's gonna carry us 970 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 3: through this hour, Carrie Rhoads here on Fox Sports Radio. 971 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 3: You hear him on Sundays, of course, but former player, 972 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 3: I want to get his perspective. There's a lot to 973 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,720 Speaker 3: talk about with him, with everything we just already discussed 974 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 3: that has transpired the last forty eight hours here in 975 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 3: the NFL. Week thirteen, though, is upon us, and that. 976 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: Means time for the NFL six pack. 977 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 2: Alright, six categories that we go around the league with 978 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 2: every single solitary week. For category number one, where do 979 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 2: we start here. 980 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: Mark hot seed heat check, that's right. 981 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 2: The coacher player under the most pressure this weekend. I'll 982 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,919 Speaker 2: get us started here at him, all right, I will 983 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 2: go with the Indianapolis. 984 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 3: Colts at home. 985 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 2: Yes, they were eight and three and still the favorites 986 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 2: to win the AFC South. But your boy Daniel Jones 987 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 2: starting to come back down to earth just a. 988 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 3: Little bit at him. Oh, he's got a fractured leg. Well, 989 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 3: he does. 990 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 2: So that news did come out here earlier this week, 991 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 2: which we didn't know about, and he hadn't been on 992 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 2: the injury report, and apparently the team was being very 993 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 2: nebulous about it, which is really interesting because I feel 994 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 2: like you're supposed to disclose when guys are actually hurting. 995 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 3: It's a gambling thing. 996 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 2: It's a gambling thing. The league says, Well, it's just 997 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 2: about integrity of the league and figuring out. We all 998 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 2: know what it's about. But anyway, over his past three games, 999 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 2: as turnovers and sack numbers have gone up, his past 1000 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 2: efficiency has dipped, not significantly, but I would say at 1001 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 2: least noticeably to a certain point. And like I mentioned 1002 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 2: this earlier in the show, you can't really point to 1003 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 2: him for that collapse against Kansas City because offensively, they 1004 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 2: didn't play that well, anyway, to be honest with you, 1005 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 2: Chiefs shot themselves in the foot so many times in 1006 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 2: that game. They actually found a way to come back 1007 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,359 Speaker 2: and get the victory. But the Colts offense really after 1008 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 2: that first half where they had a couple of short 1009 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 2: fields and scored some touchdowns, really didn't do a whole lot. 1010 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 2: And so that's really been the theme of these last 1011 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 2: three games, two of the last three they've lost. When 1012 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor gets shut down, Daniel Jones does nothing. He struggles, 1013 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 2: is not able to sustain drives for them, and it 1014 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 2: begs the question from a long term stand point, is 1015 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones good enough to commit to long term as 1016 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 2: our quarterback. I know Anthony Richardson has an injury and 1017 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 2: all that. Who knows what this situation is gonna be 1018 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 2: moving forward. Daniel Jones is not an old guy, and 1019 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,879 Speaker 2: he certainly has played well in his short tenure there. 1020 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 2: But if you're gonna be able to win a championship, 1021 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 2: compete for championships, you're going to have a guy that has, 1022 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 2: at some point in time is gonna have to put 1023 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 2: the team on his shoulders and be able to pass 1024 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 2: you to a win or two. You can't just rely 1025 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 2: on the running game every single solitary week. Like I 1026 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 2: mentioned this about Jalen Hurts and the Eagles earlier, say 1027 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 2: what you want about them, and they've had their struggles. 1028 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 2: There have been times this season where they've put the 1029 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 2: offense on his shoulders and he's been able to make 1030 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 2: to make throws and be able to get them victories. 1031 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 2: The Vikings game is an example of that. The Rams 1032 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 2: game where they came back from double digits down at 1033 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,959 Speaker 2: home was an example of that. But if we scale 1034 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 2: back from the big picture and just look at what's 1035 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 2: in front of the Colts right now, I'm not sure 1036 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: that it's a four gone conclusion. They're gonna win the 1037 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,919 Speaker 2: AFC South like we thought it was gonna be about 1038 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,919 Speaker 2: a month ago. At him they have a one game 1039 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 2: lead over the Jacksonville Jaguars, who they still play twice. 1040 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 2: They have a two game lead over the Houston who 1041 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 2: they still played twice, one of which coming up this Sunday. 1042 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 2: By the way, what are the other two remaining games 1043 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 2: on houston schedule at the Seahawks and home against the 1044 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 2: forty nine ers. So it's not like this will be 1045 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: some sort of cakewalk down the stretch for them either. 1046 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 2: All that being said, a Sunday's game against Houston a 1047 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 2: ginormous game for Daniel Jones and the Colts offense, and 1048 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I don't know how well they'll fare 1049 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 2: against that Houston defense, which has been great all season 1050 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 2: long and have really kicked themselves into another year in 1051 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 2: recent weeks, namely last week against Buffalo when they sacked 1052 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 2: Josh Allen fifteen thousand times. And also, by the way, 1053 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 2: lest I Bury the lead c J. Stroud back in 1054 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 2: the lineup now and the Houston offense was looking better 1055 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 2: before he went out with the concussion three weeks ago, 1056 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 2: so their backup quarterback came in and have performed himself 1057 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 2: pretty well. Didn't have great numbers, but played well enough 1058 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 2: to get them victories. 1059 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 3: Helped them get a big comeback in one of those 1060 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 3: he did. 1061 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 2: So I'm placing the Colts offense and really this team 1062 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,959 Speaker 2: as a hole on the hot seat this week because 1063 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,240 Speaker 2: if they lose would not surprise me at all considering 1064 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 2: the schedule that they have remaining and the pressure on 1065 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 2: their shoulders at this point in time that we're talking 1066 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 2: about Week eighteen, their last game of the regular season 1067 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 2: battling for a playoff spot. Either you win or you're out. 1068 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 2: Win or you're in, or losing you're out. 1069 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 3: I actually have this also is my hot seat heat check. 1070 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 3: I didn't expect to have him here, but the old 1071 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 3: blowing your division with a three to one leader of 1072 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 3: twenty eight to three lead joke was about the Steelers. 1073 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 3: Right now it's about the AFC South and the Indianapolis Colts. 1074 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 3: Daniel Indiana Jones lately is looking much much less like 1075 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 3: Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Arc and 1076 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 3: more like Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull, which can 1077 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 3: definitely lead to CTE. Maybe he's got the crystal fractured 1078 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 3: leg now too. 1079 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one of those vipers bit indian the 1080 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 2: ass the last couple of weeks. 1081 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 3: It might actually be more like Indiana Jones than the 1082 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 3: Division of Doom, which is how we used to describe 1083 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 3: the AFC South, you know, ten years ago, when they 1084 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 3: were the worst division in football pretty consistently over the 1085 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 3: last ten years and undeserving of an automatic playoff berth. 1086 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 3: But right now they got one really good team, two 1087 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 3: above average teams, I would say, in the Jags and 1088 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 3: the Texans, and as you mentioned, Daniel Jones, he's looking 1089 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 3: to average himself lately, no longer trending towards best in 1090 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 3: the league. He's fallen to ninth when it comes to 1091 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 3: MVP odds, four touchdowns to four picks in his last 1092 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 3: three games. They're one and two over that time. As 1093 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 3: you mentioned, loosen to the Steelers losing to the Chiefs, 1094 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 3: and his dip in production completely correlates with Jonathan Taylor's 1095 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 3: loss in production over the last couple of losses. Is 1096 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones more dependent on Jonathan Taylor than Taylor is 1097 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 3: on him. I think it's possible. It's kind of like 1098 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,760 Speaker 3: Home Improvements ratings taking a dip when Jonathan Taylor Thomas 1099 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 3: left the show to do Lion King and Tom and 1100 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 3: Huck Teens girls were less into Mark Taylor and his 1101 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 3: goth vibes. No one could fill the JTT hole. And 1102 00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 3: if the Colts aren't cheating or creating holes for Jonathan Taylor, 1103 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 3: or if he's slowing down, Daniel Jones is going to 1104 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 3: have more of an issue hucking it. So Sunday big 1105 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 3: game against the Houston Texans, Davis Mills did his thing. CJ. 1106 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 3: Stroud could be back under center. And that Colt schedule, 1107 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,720 Speaker 3: like you said, it's kind of brutial, brutal their final 1108 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 3: six games, like it's much tougher than the Texans for 1109 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 3: the Jaguars schedule. So you better win these division games 1110 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 3: against them because I don't know what's happening outside of it, 1111 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 3: but the Colts look like a horseshoe in to win 1112 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 3: the division three weeks ago with little competition, and now 1113 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,640 Speaker 3: they're having to fight for it with the Colt forty 1114 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 3: five pulled there? What else? 1115 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 6: Again? 1116 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 3: What do you got next? Mark? 1117 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 1: Trap game? 1118 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 3: Tap right? 1119 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,720 Speaker 2: The favorite in trouble or facing a trap game? This weekend, 1120 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 2: I'm going with the Rams on the road against your 1121 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers there at them. 1122 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 3: Wow. 1123 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 2: Now, by the way, you lucky s will be the 1124 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 2: late switcheroo. Right before he went off the air last 1125 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 2: week on two on two, all Adam was tempted to 1126 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 2: take his Carolina Panthers on the road in a big 1127 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,280 Speaker 2: spot chance to take first place in the NFC South 1128 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 2: and they got a victory over the San Francisco forty 1129 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,720 Speaker 2: nine ers. Instead, at the very last second, right before 1130 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 2: though we are Fox Sports, he flipped to the Browns 1131 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 2: getting three over the Raiders. 1132 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 3: Who talked me into that, which I'm angry about that. 1133 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 3: Who talked me into that? Ken, I don't know what 1134 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 3: you're talking about. That was you, It was so I 1135 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 3: should blame myself for that one I got. I wanted 1136 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 3: to take the Panthers, but Kevin was making too much sense. 1137 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 3: Talked you out of it. Damn it, talked you out 1138 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 3: of it. 1139 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 2: So the Panthers loss to the forty nine ers on Monday, 1140 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 2: despite brock Party's best efforts to try to give that 1141 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 2: game away. But that Panthers offense was putrid. Bryce Young 1142 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 2: picked off at the one yard line. Rico Dowdle for 1143 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 2: some reason, only got six carries in the entire game, 1144 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 2: which prompted him, by the way, to send out like 1145 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 2: the quizzical face emoji on Twitter with no context whatsoever. 1146 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 2: We know that mant after the game, just to cise like, huh, Yeah, 1147 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,319 Speaker 2: I was wondering that too, Rico shocker fantasy football. This 1148 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 2: is all one week, by the way, Yeah, after Young 1149 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 2: threw for four hundred yards, so I guess such are 1150 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 2: the vagaries of a young NFL quarterback. 1151 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 3: So now they return home. 1152 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 2: Welcome in the team that most people consider to be 1153 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 2: the best and most complete team in the NFL in 1154 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 2: the La Rams and La Rams team, by the way, 1155 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 2: was being led by MVP favorite Matthew Stafford, who, if 1156 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 2: you remember, I brought up like a month ago, how 1157 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 2: they held this guy's name is not being placed in 1158 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 2: the MVP discussion. You are right, sure enough. Now he's 1159 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,399 Speaker 2: a front runner. Do you realize, by the way, Matt 1160 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 2: Stafford has thrown twenty seven touchdowns since his last interception. 1161 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 3: Damn, do you realize how insane that is? 1162 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 2: That's that an all time record that has not been 1163 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 2: done since box scores became official in the nineteen seventies. 1164 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 3: Okay, I thought maybe there was a chance Aaron Rodgers 1165 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 3: did it in his heyday with the Packers. Well, thank you, 1166 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,240 Speaker 3: he had some seasons where he had like forty touchdowns 1167 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 3: to three picks. 1168 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 2: No, even Aaron rodd the Great Aaron Rodgers, has never 1169 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 2: been on a run that Matthew Stafford is on right now. Now, 1170 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 2: with that being said, I do think the Rams need 1171 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 2: to watch out a little bit here. The Panthers, like 1172 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 2: most teams, do play better at home than on the road, 1173 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 2: Although they did lose that home to the Saints weeks 1174 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,439 Speaker 2: back now, so they just have just as many home 1175 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 2: wins as road wins as they do now. But that 1176 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 2: fan base given a lot of life in juice right now. 1177 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 2: Looking at him right now, he's wearing an LA Clipper sweatshirt, 1178 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: but it's Carolina Panther blue. So I think it's the 1179 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 2: best of both worlds going on right now. 1180 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:17,919 Speaker 3: So that fan base. 1181 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll talk about the happits of the Clippers on Friday. 1182 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 2: But the Panthers have gone from a laughing stock to 1183 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 2: a team that you expect to be competitive actually more 1184 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 2: weeks than not. Will they be competitive against the Rams? 1185 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 2: Conventional wisdom would tell you probably not. But conventional wisdom 1186 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 2: would also say you the Dolphins had no business running 1187 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,439 Speaker 2: the Bills off the field a couple of weeks ago. 1188 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,240 Speaker 2: This is the NFL. The unexpected happens all the time. 1189 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 2: I can easily see the Rams coming in as a 1190 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 2: ten and a half point favorite, maybe a little overcompetent, 1191 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,920 Speaker 2: over confident, I should say ten am kick for their 1192 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 2: West Coast bodies going to the East Coast, which. 1193 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 3: Can be a factor sometimes. 1194 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 2: So seems like a prime situation to me where the 1195 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 2: Rams will have their hands full against the squad that's 1196 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,280 Speaker 2: fighting for the playoff lives. The Carolina Panthers are easily 1197 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 2: see the Panthers covering the spread. 1198 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 3: In this one. I can see it happening. All right, 1199 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 3: that's your trap game, tap, yep, it is for me too, 1200 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,959 Speaker 3: but kind of for a different reason. All right, you're right. 1201 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 3: The Rams maybe the number one seed, and they're favored 1202 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 3: by almost eleven points in this ballgame, are going out 1203 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 3: on the road. But it's also the holidays, and the 1204 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,160 Speaker 3: Carolina Panthers are in the Christmas spirit, so they're no 1205 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 3: longer a football team. They are now a ballet production 1206 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:33,800 Speaker 3: and currently performing a Christmas classic, The Nutcracker, starring the 1207 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 3: rat King himself, trayvon Merrig, who cracked Jawan Jennings in 1208 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 3: the nuts. Last week, the. 1209 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 2: Former Raiders trave on Eric. 1210 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 3: By the way, Yeah, where do you think you learned it? Exactly? Ironically, 1211 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 3: a guy who plays safety did the least safe thing ever. 1212 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 3: I guess. The Panthers decided, since they can't play like men, 1213 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,399 Speaker 3: no one else should be able to play as men 1214 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 3: either sound like a man when they Their new team 1215 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,800 Speaker 3: name is the Carolina Scrutum Smashers or the Johnny Cages 1216 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 3: that that was his go to move. 1217 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,879 Speaker 2: Yes against you would hit the splits and then get 1218 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 2: you right in the the family Jewels. 1219 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 3: Now, look, if Juwan Jennings had an advantage of four 1220 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,359 Speaker 3: arms and hands to catch the football, it would make 1221 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 3: more sense that you might go Nutcracker with it. But 1222 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 3: the Rams they're so tough the Panthers might have to 1223 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,880 Speaker 3: resort to it, hence the trap game tap. But seriously, 1224 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 3: what tryvon Marrek did? I mean? I haven't been this 1225 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,280 Speaker 3: embarrassed by the Panthers as a fan since at least 1226 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 3: two weeks ago when the Saints. That was also a 1227 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,720 Speaker 3: punch of the night I was. I've had so many 1228 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 3: as a Panthers fan. They've basically given me a vasectomy, 1229 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 3: Like I now wear a cup just watching Carolina Panthers 1230 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 3: football games and losing to the forty nine ers in 1231 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 3: primetime the way they did. Like they're just gonna get 1232 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 3: banned from Monday Night Football and so net football games. 1233 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 3: They're gonna be on illegal streams that the FBI will 1234 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,720 Speaker 3: be monitoring, because if you're going to watch the Panthers 1235 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,360 Speaker 3: play football, who knows what kind of psychopath you could be. 1236 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 3: That's not a red flag, it's a white flag, and 1237 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 3: you are surrendering your sanity. I'm gonna make a custom 1238 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 3: Panthers jersey that's also a straight jacket like. But yeah, 1239 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 3: Trayvon Merhrig, former raider, that's where he learned it from 1240 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:28,399 Speaker 3: his go to move. 1241 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 2: It ain't cheating, you ain't trying, right. 1242 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,839 Speaker 3: Testicular torsion was his next play. 1243 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 2: I will say you probably if you're gonna do that, 1244 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,359 Speaker 2: which I would never endorse, by the way, just to 1245 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 2: say that on a quick note, probably gotta be a 1246 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 2: little more savvy about it. 1247 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 3: It literally just walk up. 1248 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 2: It just just a straight fist right to the nuts 1249 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 2: on camera where everybody can see it. 1250 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't do it on Monday night football, right, 1251 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 3: It's like those cameras everywhere. Man come on at least 1252 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 3: make us have to find it on like the early 1253 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 3: red zone slate or if it's on the bottom of 1254 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 3: dog pile. 1255 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 2: I've heard stories of things that happen on those dogs 1256 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 2: files which are just awful and should never be spoken. Ye, 1257 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,520 Speaker 2: that's what things like that happen. Well, it obviously just 1258 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 2: didn't care at that point. 1259 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 3: Rams better watch themselves because that's how the Panthers roll. Now, 1260 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 3: maybe that's what it is. 1261 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 2: The Panthers is run out of the tunnel and just 1262 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 2: go straight cup check to the entire Rams roster. That's 1263 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 2: how they start the game. You know what do we 1264 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 2: got coming up next here? 1265 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:21,520 Speaker 1: Beer goggles Kate. 1266 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 2: That's right, ugly matchup that might be a little bit entertaining. 1267 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 2: You know what, should we take a break here? I 1268 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 2: think we would probably take a break here and get 1269 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 2: to get to Carry roads. Yeah, because I don't leave 1270 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 2: it's late. I don't keep Carry up too late. 1271 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 3: Now, you're right, So he just texted us. He never 1272 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,880 Speaker 3: did that too teams. He was not a dirty defender 1273 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 3: like the Carolina Panthers. Okay, cool, Yeah. 1274 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 2: Carry has been nice enough to stay up late and 1275 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 2: join us on the show to talk to some NFL 1276 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 2: with us, so I don't want keep him waiting any longer. 1277 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 2: We'll get back to beer goggles game and the remainder 1278 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 2: of the NFL six pack coming up a little bit. 1279 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 2: But coming up next on the other side here on 1280 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 2: fn A on FSR, it'll be the great Carry Rhoads, 1281 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 2: eight year NFL veteran for the Jets and Cardinals, and 1282 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 2: of course coworker of RS here at FSR doing End 1283 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 2: Zone Radio of Dan Bayer. This is Fna on FSR, 1284 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 2: Fox Football Saturday. It is the greatest moment and you're 1285 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 2: like man, Fna. 1286 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 3: Cotton, welcome back in f and A on FSR. And 1287 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 3: with the iHeartRadio app, you can stream us wherever you 1288 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,400 Speaker 3: happen to be. Catch us and all our Fox Sports 1289 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 3: Radio shows live twenty four to seven in the new 1290 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 3: and improved iHeartRadio app. Just search Fox Sports Radio in 1291 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 3: the app to stream us live all day, every day, 1292 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 3: and be sure to select Fox Sports Radio as one 1293 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,919 Speaker 3: of your presets in the iHeart app so it will 1294 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,320 Speaker 3: always pop up at the top of your screen. 1295 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 2: It is Kevin Figures and Adam alson with you Fox 1296 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 2: Football Saturday. F and A on FSR. Thank you guys 1297 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,360 Speaker 2: for joining us as you do each and every week. 1298 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 2: We will dive back into the NFL stix back here 1299 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 2: in just a couple of minutes. But as of right now, 1300 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 2: you're hearing the adulcet tones of Kerry Rhoades, one of 1301 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 2: our coworkers here at Fox Sports Radio. He joins us 1302 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 2: now to talk some NFL. Let's get to it. Adam 1303 00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 2: Alan dranking. 1304 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: Dude, thank you, Gutty. 1305 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 3: Well. Our next guest started out as a QB in 1306 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 3: college before moving to safety so he could help be 1307 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 3: the QB of the secondary. But he was second to 1308 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 3: none when he was named an All Pro in two 1309 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 3: thousand and six while playing for the Jets, and after 1310 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 3: eight years in the league, left the game. But this 1311 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 3: star continues to shine off the field, whether he's acting, singing, 1312 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,799 Speaker 3: or broadcasting here on Fox Sports Radio. No matter what 1313 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 3: you're into, this artist has you covered. As all roads 1314 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 3: lead to carry roads. Follow him at Carrie twenty five 1315 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 3: Roads and check out his new single Hush on all 1316 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 3: music platforms. Carrie, thanks for doing this here on F 1317 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 3: and A on FSR. 1318 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 6: Hey, man, if you guys going to introduce me that way, 1319 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 6: I'll come on all the time. But just so you know, 1320 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 6: keep that keep that same energy. So I appreciate it. Man. 1321 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 6: Got how would you guys to thank giving? 1322 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 3: It was good you and yours all right? 1323 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 6: Oh yes, I like it mellow and chill and you know, 1324 00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 6: just a handful of people. So that's kind of what 1325 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 6: happened yesterday to me. But always grateful, always grateful. 1326 00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, Carrie, you know, playing for the Jets and playing 1327 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 2: for the Ardinal's did you ever actually have to play 1328 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving weekend? 1329 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:02,880 Speaker 6: Have? So? 1330 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 3: What was that experience? 1331 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 6: Like? Yeah, I was telling the friend about it yesterday. 1332 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 6: Just you know, like everybody's watching the games and having 1333 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 6: a really good time as fans as observers, but you know, 1334 00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 6: the players are out there playing on this weird random Thursday. 1335 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 6: Obviously it's not a random Thursday when it comes to 1336 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 6: the world, but for us, we may have already played 1337 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 6: a game on Sunday, So coming on the short week 1338 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 6: and plan on Thursday is interesting. It's fun, but it's 1339 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:29,800 Speaker 6: also it's a lot you know what I mean. You 1340 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 6: have a family coming in town. A lot of times 1341 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 6: the families are celebrating with you on Thanksgiving after the 1342 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 6: game or before the game, and you have to, you know, 1343 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,920 Speaker 6: kind of maintain some level of focus to play that game. 1344 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 6: So it's an honor always, obviously, but it's also it 1345 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 6: comes with its own set of circumstances as well. 1346 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 3: It proved to be a lot for the Chiefs and 1347 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 3: the Ravens, who both took losses. They're six and six, Carrie, 1348 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 3: who do you think is in more danger of missing 1349 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 3: the playoffs between those two ball clubs? 1350 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 6: Well, I think that the obvious choice is Kansas City 1351 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 6: just because of their division. They're so far behind in 1352 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 6: the division, so they really don't have a chance to 1353 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 6: win the division to get in by you know, winning it, 1354 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 6: So then you gotta, you know, hope that some other 1355 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 6: teams in front of you lose and you can get 1356 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 6: into wild card. Where the Ravens, I mean, they're still 1357 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 6: in the thicket winning the division, and I think, you know, 1358 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 6: being in the AFC North, A lot of us thought 1359 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 6: that that was a stronger division, and it has been historically, 1360 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,840 Speaker 6: but this year is just not the same. So whoever, 1361 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 6: you know, the Ravens still have a chance to win 1362 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 6: that division, so they aren't in dire needs. But the Chiefs, yeah, 1363 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 6: they're in trouble. 1364 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 2: Speaking of the AFC North, obviously, the Baltimore Ravens losing 1365 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 2: that matchup on Thursday night against Joe Burrow, who have 1366 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 2: been out for the last couple of months. There was 1367 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 2: a lot of debate as to whether or not he 1368 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 2: should even return this season. Considering that the Bengals, although 1369 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 2: not mathematically eliminated from the postseason, for all it tents 1370 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 2: and purposes, we know they're not going to the playoffs, 1371 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 2: just as you see Carrie. Obviously, you can say it 1372 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 2: was the right decision because he looked great and they 1373 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 2: won the game, but knowing that he's had an extensive 1374 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 2: injury history and the offensive line, although playing better, is 1375 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 2: certainly not dominant by any stretch, do you think it's 1376 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 2: the right decision for Cincinnati to put him back out 1377 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 2: there and what is essentially a lost season at this point. 1378 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't think it was the right decision, But 1379 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 6: then after I heard you know, Joe Burrows talk about 1380 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 6: it and just his understanding of the situation, I mean, 1381 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 6: I completely agree with him wanting to play. 1382 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 3: Now. 1383 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,240 Speaker 6: As far as an organization and putting your quarterback out 1384 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 6: there that's been injured with no chance to make the playoffs, 1385 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 6: you know, that didn't look like the right decision, man. 1386 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 6: But I was really encouraged, and I mean I was 1387 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 6: really was. It was refreshing to hear a superstar player want, 1388 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 6: you know, explain it right, break it down, like I 1389 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 6: make a lot of money to play a kid's game, 1390 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,720 Speaker 6: and so to go out there and you know, go 1391 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 6: out there and do what he loves and do what 1392 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,080 Speaker 6: he wants to do, and the organization be behind it, 1393 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,240 Speaker 6: then you can't fault him. I mean it was, like 1394 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,400 Speaker 6: I said, it was refreshing to hear him say that. 1395 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 3: Carrie Rhodes is our guest here on f and AL 1396 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, And the other game we saw the 1397 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys defense. You know, there's certainly a little bit 1398 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 3: better than you're a defensive guy, Like, are they adequate 1399 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 3: enough to now really make a run towards the playoffs? 1400 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 6: Absolutely? Absolutely, I mean it's shocking. I think I actually 1401 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 6: put out a tweet yesterday I was saying this iteration 1402 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 6: of the Cowboys are actually fun, you know what I mean, 1403 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 6: Like it's it's just it's not just noise. It's not 1404 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 6: just a mirrorous team. No, it's like watch them and 1405 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 6: you're kind of rooting for them. You're for Dak. I mean, 1406 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 6: he's received so much backglass throughout the years, even when 1407 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 6: he's played well, you know, he's had some failures in 1408 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,920 Speaker 6: the playoffs, which a lot of quarterbacks and a lot 1409 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 6: of teams do. But right now, man, he's playing the 1410 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 6: basketball i've ever seen them play. And my former friend 1411 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 6: and you know, he was offensive coordinator with us with 1412 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 6: the Jets buying Schottenheimer. A lot of people gave him 1413 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 6: flack for getting that job in Dallas, right, and he 1414 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 6: has those guys playing well, they're playing together. Offense looks 1415 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,920 Speaker 6: unstoppable and refreshing, and in that defense, all of a sudden, 1416 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 6: now they are competent, right, and so now the same 1417 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 6: as a chance to you know, if they can be 1418 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 6: the Lions next Thursday. I think, you know, I think 1419 01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 6: they can run the table. 1420 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 2: You're a defensive back for a long period of time, 1421 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 2: played for some really good defenses out there with the Jets. 1422 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,520 Speaker 2: When you have CD Lamb and George Pickens lining up 1423 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 2: across from you, I know you were a safety out 1424 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:20,560 Speaker 2: of corner. 1425 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 3: But just talk about how difficult it is to. 1426 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 2: Game plan when you have two legit number one type 1427 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 2: receivers that you have to face off against. Is just 1428 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 2: what does a game plan situation even look like when 1429 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 2: it comes to that, because you don't want to obviously 1430 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 2: you give away one. 1431 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 3: The other is going to light you up. 1432 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 2: So how do you even game plan when you have 1433 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 2: two dominant receivers like that lining up against you? 1434 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,920 Speaker 6: Well, you can game plan. And when you have myself 1435 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 6: and dre if you want to cut that. 1436 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 3: Way, that's true point. I'm straight that one All Pro 1437 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 3: and one Hall of Famer. 1438 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 6: I'll take it, Yeah, exactly exactly. We get. We could 1439 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 6: game plan, but I think the specific way to do 1440 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 6: that is, I mean, they're both number one, and they're 1441 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 6: both great and my if I would game planning, then 1442 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 6: I would put the rail on Pickings, and I'm allowing 1443 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 6: that to happen. And then you'll put me on the 1444 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 6: other side with Ceedee Lamb And our other coin at 1445 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 6: the time was Widow Shepherd, who's not a scrub. So 1446 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 6: you put that guy up on them and get field 1447 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 6: school with him and have me over the top and 1448 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 6: kind of eliminate that. But again, it's it's it's a 1449 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,720 Speaker 6: hard thing to do, and most teams don't have other 1450 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,280 Speaker 6: rel reavers, right, and so when you go into that game, 1451 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 6: you have to pick your poison if you want to 1452 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 6: for the most part, play a two shell and make 1453 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 6: them be patient and make them, you know, kind of 1454 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 6: dictate them to run the ball, because with seven in 1455 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 6: the box, if you're an offense, you use you have 1456 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 6: to run the ball to keep the defense on it. 1457 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 6: So you would want to make them have to go 1458 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,880 Speaker 6: the length of the field, make a lot of plays, 1459 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 6: have to be really good a lot of the time 1460 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 6: where if you play man and man coverage and give 1461 01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 6: them give them a chance at a one on one ball, 1462 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 6: they're going to probably win those matchups. And then you 1463 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 6: give them the chance to make a big play. So 1464 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 6: you just want to make them have to be perfect 1465 01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,520 Speaker 6: and drive the length of the field and hopefully get 1466 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 6: some pressure. 1467 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,960 Speaker 3: Carrie, and speaking to those Jets teams that you were on, 1468 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,760 Speaker 3: I'm well aware of how your former coach Rex Ryan 1469 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,440 Speaker 3: feels about shaduor Sanders, But how do you feel about 1470 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,920 Speaker 3: Shador as a starter now with the Browns. Is he 1471 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 3: going to be able to perform against the defense that's 1472 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 3: not the Raiders this week? 1473 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,120 Speaker 6: That's a that's a good that's a good point. I 1474 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 6: think it's wait and see. I think a lot of 1475 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 6: people want to jump in front of the sedure train 1476 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 6: or jump on the on the on the on the 1477 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 6: on the back and pull them back and humble them. 1478 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 6: But I think we just got to wait and see, 1479 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 6: and if we're Shador, I just want him to put 1480 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 6: his head down and not talk and just go out 1481 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 6: and play football and you know, prove his worth right now. 1482 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 6: You know, it may not have been the ideal situation 1483 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 6: in his mind to not be the guy early on, 1484 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 6: but he's kind of where that storm and now he 1485 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 6: has a chance. That's the NFL, and when you get 1486 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,960 Speaker 6: your chans, put your head down and work, because the 1487 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 6: highs are never as high as you think they are 1488 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 6: and the lows are never that low. So I think 1489 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 6: if you can keep that level head and and just 1490 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 6: really like put all your focus on the work, there 1491 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 6: is a chance. I mean, obviously he has talent. We 1492 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,160 Speaker 6: saw him play. He can throw the ball. He even 1493 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 6: against the Raiders, which isn't a really good team at 1494 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,440 Speaker 6: the moment. Moment, obviously you could see the control and 1495 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,960 Speaker 6: see the understanding of the offense and how to operate 1496 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 6: the quarterback and shore doing so we'll see. I mean, 1497 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,000 Speaker 6: I think it's only time with Tail, but as the 1498 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 6: moment goes right now, he definitely should have been the guy. 1499 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 2: Kerry Rose joining us here FNA on FSR, Fox Football Saturday. 1500 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 2: Any concerns carry about Daniel Jones and Indianapolis Colts offense, 1501 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 2: They've taken a little bit of a step back these 1502 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. Teams have really honed down on 1503 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 2: slowing down Jonathan Taylor and Daniel Jones so far has 1504 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,480 Speaker 2: not been able to make teams play. Now they have 1505 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 2: a huge game against Houston, who's kind of nipping at 1506 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,280 Speaker 2: their heels a little bit in the AFC South. Do 1507 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 2: you have any concerns about the culture or do you 1508 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 2: still feel confident they'll find a way to pull out 1509 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 2: this division to be a force in the AFC playoffs? 1510 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 6: Uh, that's a layer one. Are they going to be 1511 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 6: a fourth in the playoffs? I don't. I'm not sure 1512 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,480 Speaker 6: about that. As far as them, you know, making the 1513 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 6: playoffs and kind of holding off Houston, I think they can. 1514 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 6: Houston's picking up steam and I know Houston has a 1515 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 6: lot to play for the head coach, to Migo Ryans, 1516 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 6: we're high school teammates, so I know him very well 1517 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 6: and I know he's going to have those guys motivated 1518 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 6: to play, and he has some personal things that are 1519 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 6: going on as far as we had a high school 1520 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 6: teamate of ours that went pro as well throl Cochran 1521 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 6: passed away, and so I know they're motivated, and I 1522 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 6: know he's motivated to find some success and get this 1523 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 6: thing going. And that defense they have there is it's 1524 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 6: top notch. And if they can start to protect the 1525 01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,960 Speaker 6: quarterback and score some more points, they're going to be dangerous. 1526 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 6: So am I worried about the Colts. I'm worried about 1527 01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 6: the Coats and Daniel Jones, not just because of the injury, 1528 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 6: but he just looked at the last game against Kansas City. 1529 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 6: I mean, their last four possessions they went through and 1530 01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,920 Speaker 6: out and if they just on one of those drives, 1531 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,240 Speaker 6: muster up something and cost some points or even just 1532 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,920 Speaker 6: waste some time off the clock, you know, Kansas City 1533 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,800 Speaker 6: would have lost that one as well. So I do 1534 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 6: have concerns about the Coats, and it's not just because 1535 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 6: of the injuries, but I think the Textans are starting 1536 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 6: to pick up some momentum as well. 1537 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:09,920 Speaker 3: How about the the Buffalo Bills. 1538 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,200 Speaker 2: Obviously, when you have a great quarterback like Josh Allen, 1539 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 2: you always have a chance. But they've obviously been up 1540 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,920 Speaker 2: and down a lot this season, and I've not played 1541 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 2: extremely well of late. 1542 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 3: Do you think that they. 1543 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 2: Have a chance to still be a contender in the 1544 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,800 Speaker 2: AFC or do they have too many flaws, especially on 1545 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 2: the defensive side, to be a team that you actually 1546 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,200 Speaker 2: fear when it matters most. 1547 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,760 Speaker 6: They have so many flaws man, And I think this 1548 01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 6: is the tail with every team, to be honest, But 1549 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,000 Speaker 6: with them, they don't have a true outside guy at 1550 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 6: all in any of their receivers. They don't have any 1551 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 6: they don't have any big play guide on the offensive 1552 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 6: besides Cook and Allen, right, And so if you're able 1553 01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:49,520 Speaker 6: to contain them, and again we talked about it earlier, like, yes, 1554 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 6: they've been methodical and they've been able to run the 1555 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,560 Speaker 6: ball and put up points at certain points in time, 1556 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,240 Speaker 6: but I don't think you feared that when it comes, 1557 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 6: you know, when it comes to being a chance, like 1558 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 6: you have to have guys that can can make plays 1559 01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,160 Speaker 6: on the outside, and they don't have it. The Chiefs 1560 01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 6: don't have it. Like the common thing with those teams 1561 01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 6: that they're kind of just they're up and down, right, 1562 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,960 Speaker 6: because they're going to be games where they can be 1563 01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 6: perfect and drop the ball down the field, but then 1564 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 6: be games where you can't. And so if you don't 1565 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,080 Speaker 6: have that guy that can win on the outside, you're 1566 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 6: in trouble. But then defensively, their secondary is terrible. I 1567 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:29,160 Speaker 6: know their game plan and you know their defense. They 1568 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 6: do make plays and they disguise and their scheme as well. 1569 01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,680 Speaker 6: But when you're put against other really great players on 1570 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,160 Speaker 6: the outside that can make plays, you can beat both 1571 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,919 Speaker 6: of those teams. You can beat the Bills for sure. 1572 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 6: And so yeah, I'm not I don't think they're a factory, 1573 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 6: which is weird to say, right. I think all the 1574 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,120 Speaker 6: teams come into the year that we thought were the 1575 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,920 Speaker 6: top dogs aren't the top dogs anymore. 1576 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,520 Speaker 3: Check out Carrie Roads on Fox Sports Radio on end 1577 01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 3: Zone Radio with Zan Byer on Sundays. Carrie, I do 1578 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,720 Speaker 3: want to ask you about it. I mentioned it in 1579 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,080 Speaker 3: your intro, but you got a new single out, Hush, 1580 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 3: It's on all music platforms. Just what is it like 1581 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 3: for you transitioning into the music field and who are 1582 01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 3: some of your influences like getting into this, like how 1583 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 3: does this work? Now? Off the field for some time 1584 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,800 Speaker 3: and you're becoming a singer like this man. 1585 01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 6: Music was always in my DNA. My cousin is Aretha Franklin, right, 1586 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:27,440 Speaker 6: So I mean I've had that, Oh my god, Yeah, 1587 01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,519 Speaker 6: I've had those influences as I was younger. But then 1588 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,160 Speaker 6: my dad was my dad was in a band, he 1589 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 6: played music all the time, and so for me, I 1590 01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,040 Speaker 6: mean I was in the choir as a kid, and 1591 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,760 Speaker 6: I played instrument as a kid, and then you know, 1592 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 6: you get the football and that kind of consumed it 1593 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,559 Speaker 6: and you focus on the thing that's paying the bills. 1594 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 6: But I knew once I got done, I would get 1595 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:49,080 Speaker 6: back into it. 1596 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:53,840 Speaker 7: And just being able to have like this artistic expression 1597 01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,160 Speaker 7: that's the most purest form of it for me, and 1598 01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,600 Speaker 7: I think that is music and so being able to 1599 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 7: connect with people and share that, guest. 1600 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 6: And it's it's been everything, man, And with Hush, it's 1601 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:06,720 Speaker 6: just kind of like a culmination of all of that, right, 1602 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,600 Speaker 6: like my my years as a player, the chaos that 1603 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,800 Speaker 6: came around that, the chaos of leaving leaving football, and 1604 01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,320 Speaker 6: you know, walking this walking this earth as a normal 1605 01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:21,320 Speaker 6: pedestrian again and having to figure out life after that. 1606 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 6: Like all of those things are the influences behind my 1607 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,280 Speaker 6: music and so being able to put it out and 1608 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,599 Speaker 6: people actually receive it in a way. Man, it's been 1609 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 6: it's been everything for me. So yeah, Hush is out, 1610 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,320 Speaker 6: and like you said, the streaming on everything, and I'm 1611 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,600 Speaker 6: really really excited for it. 1612 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 2: Far from normal. Eight times are eight seasons, I should say, 1613 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:41,120 Speaker 2: in the NFL, made an All Pro team, played for 1614 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,920 Speaker 2: the New York Jets and the Cardinals, and obviously a 1615 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 2: great broadcast to here a Fox Sports Radio, a great 1616 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 2: colleague of ours, and obviously, as we mentioned, great burgeining 1617 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,680 Speaker 2: music career as well, the great Kerry Roads joining us 1618 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,080 Speaker 2: here on that fan on FSR carry This was fun. Man, 1619 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:55,639 Speaker 2: much appreciate it. We'll talk to you soon. 1620 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,559 Speaker 6: Man, absolutely, man, thank you guys so much. 1621 01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 3: Here's the track Hush, you're hearing it right now now? 1622 01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,600 Speaker 3: Was he talking to Ocho Cinco and receivers that he 1623 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,479 Speaker 3: would lock up those loud mouth receivers back in the 1624 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:13,160 Speaker 3: mid two thousand. It's like hush is he and Darrell 1625 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,679 Speaker 3: Reebas It wasn't just Darrell Reebis Island by the way, Okay, 1626 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,720 Speaker 3: don't forget about Kerry Rows and Roads. Yeah, that's the 1627 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 3: that's the law office. At least they locked you up. 1628 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,800 Speaker 3: They did. That was great. Some great defenses are good. 1629 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 3: Really good. Track's good too. Yeah. 1630 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,720 Speaker 2: I like this and check him out by the week 1631 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 2: and check him out. He has his own YouTube page 1632 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,040 Speaker 2: too as well. He has a couple of music videos. 1633 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,240 Speaker 2: Carrie's been pumping out some songs see these last couple 1634 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,320 Speaker 2: of years. All Right, you're a big fan of R 1635 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 2: and B. 1636 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:42,439 Speaker 3: Like I am. You like it? So Brian mcnight influenced 1637 01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,200 Speaker 3: here sounds like it a little bit. That's a compliment. 1638 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 3: It is greatly. You know. He had Kobe in a 1639 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 3: video once rapping. Probably a bit of a low light. 1640 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:55,120 Speaker 3: But yeah, sorry, oh come on, what all right it was? 1641 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,320 Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's like he all love of respect 1642 01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,840 Speaker 2: to the to the Mamba, but I mean, maybe just 1643 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 2: to basketball and leave the rap into the rappers, you 1644 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:02,639 Speaker 2: know what I mean? 1645 01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,080 Speaker 3: Everybody, see, everybody can't transcend. 1646 01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,760 Speaker 2: Carrie Rose can transcend being an excellent football player to 1647 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,880 Speaker 2: be an excellent actor, to be an excellent singer, to 1648 01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 2: being an excellent Fox Sports radio host. Well, it turns 1649 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:14,800 Speaker 2: out it could be most multifaceted. 1650 01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,400 Speaker 3: When you're Aretha Franklin's cousin. 1651 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,120 Speaker 2: No pressure, by the way, too, it's like you're Aretha 1652 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 2: Franklin's cousin. If you get into music, you better be good. 1653 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:26,720 Speaker 2: Tarnish the family name. 1654 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,000 Speaker 3: You cannot. You can't do that. So r E sp 1655 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,200 Speaker 3: e c T. All right, Thanks again to Carrie Rose 1656 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,920 Speaker 3: for being on. Coming up next, back to the NFL 1657 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 3: six pack. We got our beer goggles game. He's Kevin 1658 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,519 Speaker 3: Figure as a man of Maslim. This is fn A 1659 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:40,320 Speaker 3: on FSR. 1660 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,120 Speaker 1: I want to work. I want to build something of 1661 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,280 Speaker 1: my own. How do you not understand. 1662 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:51,160 Speaker 2: That FNA cotton for the best pregame show every weekend. 1663 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,479 Speaker 2: Be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radios Counting Down 1664 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,760 Speaker 2: to kick Off, presented by Bett mgm every Saturday and 1665 01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 2: Sunday morning. We will count you down to all of 1666 01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,960 Speaker 2: the biggest games for three hours right up until kickoff, 1667 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,680 Speaker 2: for all of the best plays and up to the 1668 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,960 Speaker 2: second injury news too. And it to Countdown to Kickoff 1669 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 2: presented by Bett MGM every Saturday and Sunday morning right 1670 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:11,719 Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. 1671 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,639 Speaker 3: And the I heart app back to the NFL six 1672 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 3: pac mark. What's up there? 1673 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:16,800 Speaker 1: Beer goggles Kate? 1674 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,200 Speaker 3: All Right, So when I first saw the Sunday night 1675 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,080 Speaker 3: football game between the Broncos and Commanders. 1676 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:22,200 Speaker 2: Pretty excited. 1677 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,080 Speaker 3: Huh No, I was disappointed. Actually, I thought it was 1678 01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 3: time for that flex for a game that was better 1679 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,479 Speaker 3: any game, you know, Saints Dolphins or something anything with this. 1680 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,840 Speaker 3: But then I put my beer goggles on and I 1681 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,719 Speaker 3: realized the infinite wisdom of NBC and what they're doing here. 1682 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,240 Speaker 3: You see the Broncos. Well, they may have won eight 1683 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,759 Speaker 3: in a row, the hottest team in the league. 1684 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 6: Yep. 1685 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:50,520 Speaker 3: They also scraped by in one score games against the Titans, 1686 01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 3: the Jets, the Giants, the Raiders. All those teams have 1687 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,439 Speaker 3: less wins than the three and eight Commanders who they're playing, 1688 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 3: not combined. Okay, you might have thought that for a second, 1689 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,880 Speaker 3: but no, those teams aren't that bad. But I know, 1690 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:11,880 Speaker 3: like this is this is a game that has some potential. Okay, 1691 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,040 Speaker 3: if the two and nine Raiders or the one in 1692 01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 3: ten Titans can give the Broncos a game, why can't 1693 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:18,720 Speaker 3: the three win? Commanders? 1694 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 2: And by the way, that Raiders Broncos game on that 1695 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 2: Thursday night was one of the worst football games I've 1696 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:24,880 Speaker 2: seen in a couple of years. 1697 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,519 Speaker 3: From both teams. And you watch a lot of Raiders 1698 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 3: do so that says a lot. The Raiders suck. Hey, 1699 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 3: the Commanders they got you know, Marcus Mariotas starting again. 1700 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:41,360 Speaker 3: He's a he's he's he's a quarterback. Yeah, he's a 1701 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,280 Speaker 3: National Football League quarterback. 1702 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,760 Speaker 2: I was about to be very disrespectful. I was gonna 1703 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,960 Speaker 2: say he's a warm body, he's more than that. I 1704 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,240 Speaker 2: won't be that disrespectful. 1705 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:55,000 Speaker 3: Uh, they're at least at home in DC. Okay, they 1706 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,559 Speaker 3: have that going for them. Great things get screwy in 1707 01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,920 Speaker 3: that city with bills that get passed. Why can't foot 1708 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,719 Speaker 3: to get passed? Also, baffle us, like, is the gap 1709 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,200 Speaker 3: between bo Knicks and Marcus Mariota that wide this season? 1710 01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,360 Speaker 3: This season? Yes? 1711 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:09,960 Speaker 1: Still? 1712 01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,240 Speaker 3: Yes? Okay, yes it is. What's the Broncos record? If 1713 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:18,559 Speaker 3: Mariota is the quarterback, he can't throw bat incompletions and 1714 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,120 Speaker 3: hand the ball off like bow Knicks. 1715 01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 2: I mean, there are some throws that bon Nicks has made, 1716 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,719 Speaker 2: especially in big situations, where he looks pretty bona fide. 1717 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,160 Speaker 2: These are throws that Marcus Mariota wish he could have made. 1718 01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,120 Speaker 3: Both former Ducks, by the way, Yes, they're not that 1719 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,400 Speaker 3: different there. Okay, we have that going for them. 1720 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:34,919 Speaker 2: You know what, only one of them won a Heisman Trophy. 1721 01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:39,160 Speaker 2: That's right, who was that? Marcus? I was so long 1722 01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 2: ago though, and such a long time ago. 1723 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,679 Speaker 3: The Ducks are at Washington this week, a big games 1724 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:48,400 Speaker 3: kind of a connection there. Yeah, both guys probably lost 1725 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,880 Speaker 3: to Washington on the road, since the Ducks typically do 1726 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,800 Speaker 3: this is this could be interesting. We'll get to more 1727 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 3: on that on our college football forecast. But yeah, I 1728 01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 3: don't know. Maybe I'm smoking too much of that or 1729 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,760 Speaker 3: sticky iky icky here. But with my beer goggles on, 1730 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,799 Speaker 3: I see the makings of a decent Sunday night football game. Okay, 1731 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, hey, but you know what you never know. Well, 1732 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,519 Speaker 3: we'll put your beer goggles on, then you'll see it. 1733 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I've put my beer goggles on for this one. 1734 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,400 Speaker 2: This is the Jets facing the Falcons, battle between two 1735 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,280 Speaker 2: teams going absolutely nowhere. How about two and nine verses 1736 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 2: four and seven. So last week I said the Browns 1737 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 2: and the Raiders will be looking like a train wreck, 1738 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:31,320 Speaker 2: two bad football teams. They both look like the Keystone 1739 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,400 Speaker 2: cops out there running into each other, totally dishevel exactly. 1740 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,400 Speaker 3: Wow, Mark was quick with that out. 1741 01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:39,679 Speaker 2: That was only the case for one of the teams, 1742 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,680 Speaker 2: and that was the Raiders. It was so bad that 1743 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,679 Speaker 2: Chip Kelly ended up being the fall guy and lost 1744 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,799 Speaker 2: his job the Raiders. As I look at the Sunday's 1745 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,679 Speaker 2: game between the Jets and the Falcons, thank you, Kawhi. 1746 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,360 Speaker 2: Very laughable. That effort by the Clippers tonight too. By 1747 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:54,800 Speaker 2: the way, when I talk about that Adam. 1748 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,400 Speaker 3: Well Kawhi at thirty nine. He laughed. 1749 01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,720 Speaker 2: You could argue that this will be a train wreck 1750 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,679 Speaker 2: of a G two between the Jets and the Falcons, 1751 01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,720 Speaker 2: but there are some redeeming qualities in this matchup that 1752 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 2: might make you want to turn your attention to it. Dude, 1753 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:07,519 Speaker 2: tell for at least a couple of minutes. All right, 1754 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,960 Speaker 2: how about this. Anytime you have a chance to watch 1755 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,160 Speaker 2: bjar Robinson, you should. 1756 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:11,920 Speaker 3: He's great. 1757 01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:13,680 Speaker 2: This kid's one of the more dynamic players I've seen 1758 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:14,840 Speaker 2: in the NFL in a long time. 1759 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,080 Speaker 3: Deserves better, he really does. He had you think in 1760 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,000 Speaker 3: the Falcons might make the playoffs. He did well. 1761 01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 2: He along with Drake London, who's also hurt, by the way, 1762 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:23,280 Speaker 2: but also having a great year when Drake is actually healthy. 1763 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,280 Speaker 2: So they've been hit pretty hard when it comes to 1764 01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,040 Speaker 2: entries to keep players. Granted, how much has it really mattered, 1765 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,040 Speaker 2: because even when those guys were healthy, it's not like 1766 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 2: they were winning a lot of games. By the way, 1767 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,720 Speaker 2: can we not forget about Kirk Cousins. He thrives in 1768 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,200 Speaker 2: games like this. I'm sorry, what one pm Eastern Sunday 1769 01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:43,200 Speaker 2: afternoon with like two percent of the nation watching he 1770 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:44,800 Speaker 2: gets lost in the shuffle, he might as well be 1771 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,559 Speaker 2: paid Manning. He put up great numbers in situations like this. 1772 01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:49,840 Speaker 2: Now if he was a quarterback with the Commanders still 1773 01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 2: playing on Monday Night against the Broncos, Oh, he's easily 1774 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 2: throwing four pick sixes in that game. But a game 1775 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,400 Speaker 2: like this, this is prime Kirk Cousins. It's just time 1776 01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:58,280 Speaker 2: for him to shine right now. 1777 01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,160 Speaker 3: He's gonna be eiced out with the chain after. 1778 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:04,240 Speaker 2: Yes, terrible game in a standard regular season window against 1779 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,120 Speaker 2: a bad team. Kirk Cousins can light it up right now. 1780 01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:11,800 Speaker 3: Were he and Ryan Fitzpatrick the same guy? Basically they 1781 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:16,280 Speaker 3: were pretty good until the expectations came. Ryan Fitzpatcher got 1782 01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:21,240 Speaker 3: that contract, he did, yeah, and he crumbled under those expectations. 1783 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:25,080 Speaker 3: He did same with Kirk Cousins. Also had a bad injury, 1784 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,000 Speaker 3: but before that could never win in prime time? 1785 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,600 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, guys, we can throw Andy Dalton into that, 1786 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:30,240 Speaker 2: so that mix to it. 1787 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 3: If that means he'll be a great analyst, because Ryan 1788 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:33,200 Speaker 3: Fitzpatrick's pretty good. 1789 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,760 Speaker 2: No, I could see it. Kirk Cousins weltpooking guy. It 1790 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,240 Speaker 2: would not surprise me at all if you wanted to 1791 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:38,120 Speaker 2: have a career in broadcast. 1792 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:40,920 Speaker 3: You have the compliment, Kirk, it is absolutely for you. 1793 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:43,439 Speaker 2: By the way, for the Jets, you know, say what 1794 01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,519 Speaker 2: you want about the quarterback carousel, trading away all the 1795 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 2: good defensive players and all that stuff. 1796 01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:48,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll say what we want, all right. 1797 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,080 Speaker 2: I will say they haven't quoit on Aaron Glynn because 1798 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,040 Speaker 2: a lot of their games have been very close. Five 1799 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:56,479 Speaker 2: of their nine losses have come by single digits. So 1800 01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,479 Speaker 2: a bounce here, a bounce there, they're five and six. 1801 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 2: Outlook is complode completely and totally different. So they compete, 1802 01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,400 Speaker 2: they play hard. They just have a lot of offensive imitations, 1803 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,360 Speaker 2: namely anybody not named Breese Hall. Basically that is their 1804 01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,920 Speaker 2: offensive limitation. He's literally the only person doing anything for them. 1805 01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,479 Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson's good when he's healthy, which he's not. And 1806 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,800 Speaker 2: even when he was playing, who was throwing on the ball. 1807 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,000 Speaker 3: Someone to trade, Someone should have traded for him. 1808 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:20,720 Speaker 2: For Gary Wilson, I don't think he was necessarily on 1809 01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,040 Speaker 2: the market, to be honest with you. Breese Hall was, 1810 01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,320 Speaker 2: and apparently a deal was in place or a deal 1811 01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,040 Speaker 2: was offered to the Jets and they rejected it. 1812 01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:31,040 Speaker 3: So Garrett Wilson wishes somebody trade for Yeah, I'm sure 1813 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,040 Speaker 3: he does. I do want he with you, saus. I 1814 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,880 Speaker 3: would like Aaron Glenn to get another year. He will. 1815 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 3: It's not fair. 1816 01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,280 Speaker 2: The team hasn't quit on him. Not fair like the 1817 01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,120 Speaker 2: way that the team has played, the way they've competed. 1818 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:42,840 Speaker 2: They just have a lot of limitations to just start. 1819 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:46,000 Speaker 2: They were either injured or they're just not good in 1820 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,680 Speaker 2: certain situations. Like Aaron Glenn, and he talks about it 1821 01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:50,640 Speaker 2: this week. You know, he was on the staff of 1822 01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,800 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions. He was a defensive coordinator in Dan 1823 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,519 Speaker 2: Campbell's first year. They were three to thirteen his first year. 1824 01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, give him time, just like Dan Campbell and. 1825 01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 2: Turn things around. So I think they're going to give 1826 01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:01,599 Speaker 2: him a little bit of time. But if you look 1827 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,759 Speaker 2: at on the surface, this game looks like a matchup 1828 01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,240 Speaker 2: between two teams going absolutely nowhere, playing for nothing. By 1829 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:07,920 Speaker 2: the way, if you're the Falcons, you are literally playing 1830 01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,479 Speaker 2: for nothing because even if you lose and get a 1831 01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,760 Speaker 2: high draft pick, it's going to the Rams because you're 1832 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,360 Speaker 2: traded it away. Yeah, for James Peers, I'm not looking 1833 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,360 Speaker 2: on the surface. I'm looking deeper, and I still don't 1834 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,040 Speaker 2: see anything here is by the way, the numbers don't 1835 01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,200 Speaker 2: show it. He's actually playing pretty decently this year. It's 1836 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,439 Speaker 2: the gauge instantly is going to be like, you gave 1837 01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:25,840 Speaker 2: up a first round pick. The Rams are going to 1838 01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,280 Speaker 2: have a top fifteen pick, and you have this guy 1839 01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:28,400 Speaker 2: who's not producing that much. 1840 01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,040 Speaker 3: He's twenty two, he's a rookie. 1841 01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,200 Speaker 2: He might end up being a catalyst for a young defense, 1842 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,000 Speaker 2: which is averages ever starters age is like twenty five 1843 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:35,479 Speaker 2: years old. 1844 01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:36,920 Speaker 3: On that defense, there's a lot of young guys. I 1845 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,839 Speaker 3: got the perfect NBA com for that, Okay, Joe Dumars 1846 01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,720 Speaker 3: with two phones trading back in to get a first 1847 01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,160 Speaker 3: round pick from Atlanta, I think, and they got Derreck Queen. Okay, 1848 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,960 Speaker 3: Derek Queen's actually been pretty good for them. Yeah, but 1849 01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,519 Speaker 3: they still are going to end up in the lottery 1850 01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,519 Speaker 3: this year, the Pelicans, and I think it's Atlanta who 1851 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:57,720 Speaker 3: has that picks. Whoever has it's going to get like 1852 01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:58,760 Speaker 3: a top five pick out of it. 1853 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,400 Speaker 2: Sometimes it just takes a while for the these guys 1854 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 2: to develop. But like that at the very beginning, it 1855 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:03,920 Speaker 2: just comes off as a bit of a tough matchup. Well, 1856 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:05,960 Speaker 2: so we'll see what ends up happening with Atlanta ultimately 1857 01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,000 Speaker 2: for that. But I do think this is gonna end 1858 01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,639 Speaker 2: up being a very competitive game between two teams again 1859 01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,200 Speaker 2: who are going absolutely nowhere. So if there's a commercial 1860 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,360 Speaker 2: break and you got a second to sit there and 1861 01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,280 Speaker 2: don't want to sit there and watch another grand commercial 1862 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,439 Speaker 2: about insurance or shampoo or whatever the hell he's doing, 1863 01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:21,280 Speaker 2: I'll flip over and watch this game for a couple 1864 01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:22,000 Speaker 2: two or three minutes. 1865 01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,400 Speaker 3: All right, speaking of we got a commercial break. But 1866 01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,880 Speaker 3: after that our Ode Troy Epic Fail game or under 1867 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:32,880 Speaker 3: the Microscope game, we have our redemption round. We have 1868 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,000 Speaker 3: so many great things to show you here in our 1869 01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 3: last three categories in the NFL six pack. You're listening 1870 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,600 Speaker 3: to FNA on FSR. 1871 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 1872 01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:47,120 Speaker 3: That's right. Find a lot. 1873 01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,439 Speaker 2: We're of FNA on FSR here on Fox Football Saturday. 1874 01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,599 Speaker 2: You can hit us up on the socials at k 1875 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,200 Speaker 2: FIG one is where you can find me at Follow 1876 01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,760 Speaker 2: Adam A is where you can find Adam on the 1877 01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:58,720 Speaker 2: X machine. 1878 01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 3: We still have our college football forecast coming out plenty 1879 01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,439 Speaker 3: to get to a lot happened on Friday. Yeah, it 1880 01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:07,160 Speaker 3: could affect the standings on the college football ranking most 1881 01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,160 Speaker 3: absolutely well just took out at A and M. 1882 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:12,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and people are even whispering, could Texas be the 1883 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,080 Speaker 2: first three loss team to make it into the playoff. 1884 01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,800 Speaker 3: I know a guy who brought this up a month ago. 1885 01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,160 Speaker 3: At least you're not alone. But I don't agree with 1886 01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,120 Speaker 3: that guy anymore. Oh yeah, I'm gonna argue. 1887 01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,080 Speaker 2: That's probably not gonna happen, to be honest with you, 1888 01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 2: but it's not going to be talked about for sure 1889 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,320 Speaker 2: amongst us and amongst the committee. 1890 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:28,519 Speaker 3: I do believe when all is said. 1891 01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,200 Speaker 2: And done, coming up after championship weekend next weekend. So 1892 01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:32,559 Speaker 2: we got a lot to get into, and of course 1893 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,400 Speaker 2: it's Robert we Weeke into the college football ranks as well, 1894 01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,880 Speaker 2: between Michigan and Ohio State, big stakes there as far 1895 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,559 Speaker 2: as the Big Ten championship game and the potential playoff 1896 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:41,759 Speaker 2: berth on the line there for Michigan. 1897 01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,479 Speaker 3: Uh two on two off at the back end of 1898 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,360 Speaker 3: the hour. But we got to get back into our 1899 01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:51,400 Speaker 3: NFL six pack starting with our old Troy epic fail game. 1900 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:12,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh I'm so sorry. 1901 01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:17,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god. All right, el Troy epic fail potential 1902 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:19,240 Speaker 3: matchup this weekend. 1903 01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,160 Speaker 2: In Week thirteen, I'm gonna go to the Vikings, who 1904 01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,160 Speaker 2: could absolutely get run off the field in Seattle. Now, 1905 01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:26,839 Speaker 2: usually I reserve my epic failed category for a favorite 1906 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,880 Speaker 2: who I think might actually get embarrassed that week. Yeah, 1907 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,600 Speaker 2: hence my Pittsburgh Steelers picking against Chicago last Sunday That 1908 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,840 Speaker 2: aged well, I could pull the Steve Hartman on you 1909 01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:36,720 Speaker 2: on you, Adam by the way, and say that to it. 1910 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,439 Speaker 2: My prediction was right, but the players didn't do their 1911 01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:44,960 Speaker 2: jobs properly. Look, I'll say this, blow it up right now, 1912 01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,920 Speaker 2: Damn right, Steve Listen Steelers health the Bears under their 1913 01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:51,200 Speaker 2: season average in total yards and under their season average 1914 01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:52,720 Speaker 2: in rushing yards. We saw what they did against the 1915 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:56,280 Speaker 2: Eagles on Friday. They also forced two turnovers, one of 1916 01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,559 Speaker 2: which was a terrible Caleb Williams fumble in the end 1917 01:22:58,600 --> 01:22:59,920 Speaker 2: zone that was recovered for a score. 1918 01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:02,759 Speaker 3: Didn't somebody say that might happen. 1919 01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:06,320 Speaker 2: Last week, Hey Caleb Williams, that the regret progression with 1920 01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,720 Speaker 2: a young player is never linear, and he might take 1921 01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:11,240 Speaker 2: a half step back against a good defense that forces turnovers. 1922 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,800 Speaker 3: Sam, who would have said such a thing. Prediction was 1923 01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:14,559 Speaker 3: almost right. 1924 01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,040 Speaker 2: My bad for thinking the Steeler offense could mester a 1925 01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,120 Speaker 2: half decent effort against a Bearess team with one of 1926 01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,200 Speaker 2: the worst scoring defenses in the league. Albeit looked good 1927 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,479 Speaker 2: against the Eagles, but again, the Eagles office hadn't done 1928 01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:25,439 Speaker 2: squad in two weeks. 1929 01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:27,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway back to this week. 1930 01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,519 Speaker 2: So, as I mentioned, usually reserve this category for a 1931 01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,559 Speaker 2: favorite that I think is gonna get embarrassed. I think 1932 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,559 Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna go with an underdog and what is 1933 01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:38,120 Speaker 2: the de facto revenge game here for Sam Darnold Seahawks 1934 01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,719 Speaker 2: eleven and a half point favorite over the Vikings, and honestly, 1935 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,040 Speaker 2: they might have that spread covered by halfway through the 1936 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,920 Speaker 2: first quarter. This might look like Notre Dame Syracuse last week, 1937 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:47,679 Speaker 2: where they scored like forty five points in the first 1938 01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,559 Speaker 2: two minutes or whatever it was. I'm only exaggerating slightly 1939 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,360 Speaker 2: at him. I think it was thirty five to nothing 1940 01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,880 Speaker 2: with like seven minutes left in the first quarter last week. 1941 01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:59,040 Speaker 3: Think of the poor Syracuse broadcasters that had to endure that, 1942 01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,920 Speaker 3: Like our friend Noe Eagle, Yeah, yeah, pretty rough. 1943 01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:03,800 Speaker 2: They didn't put him on the call for that, right, thankfully, No, 1944 01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,400 Speaker 2: that would have been wrong, absolutely not thankfully for him. 1945 01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,439 Speaker 2: There were some, although not many, voices out there who 1946 01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,720 Speaker 2: said the Vikings were making a mistake by getting rid 1947 01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,760 Speaker 2: of Sam Darnold. I know things ended poorly his last 1948 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,479 Speaker 2: handful of starts score, of course against the Rams. Of course, 1949 01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,920 Speaker 2: that playoff game was very forgettable, but that probably should 1950 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:23,479 Speaker 2: not have put a damper on how well he played 1951 01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:24,960 Speaker 2: for fourteen weeks last year. 1952 01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,680 Speaker 3: Come on, he's not defined by it one week or 1953 01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:31,040 Speaker 3: one playoff game. I said last week, the guy went 1954 01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:34,320 Speaker 3: eight years between playing meaningful games. Give him a chance. 1955 01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,719 Speaker 3: He needs some more high stakes games under his belt. 1956 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,200 Speaker 2: Well, that's a trap you fall into when you draft 1957 01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,200 Speaker 2: a quarterback in the first round and for whatever reason, 1958 01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:42,720 Speaker 2: you feel the needs to have to rush him into 1959 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:43,840 Speaker 2: the lineup, even if. 1960 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:44,400 Speaker 3: They aren't ready. 1961 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,840 Speaker 2: So say what you want about j McCarthy leading that 1962 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,839 Speaker 2: Week one comeback against the Bears. It was smoking mirrors, 1963 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,840 Speaker 2: it was Tim Tebow's stuff. It was not sustainable. 1964 01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:56,440 Speaker 3: They gave him Player of the Weeks ridiculous. 1965 01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,599 Speaker 2: I will say, to JJ's credit, he's not been fully 1966 01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,960 Speaker 2: healthy since like Week three, and he's essentially a brain. 1967 01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:06,000 Speaker 3: Well, he's also a rookie. He didn't play last year. 1968 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:09,080 Speaker 2: He's been last year rehabbing. You're not even taking physical reps, 1969 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:10,800 Speaker 2: just mental reps. There's only so much you can do 1970 01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,040 Speaker 2: when you're in a place in a situation like that. 1971 01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:15,800 Speaker 2: It's not even his fault, it's the organization's fault for 1972 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,679 Speaker 2: doing that. What would have been the harm of letting 1973 01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:20,880 Speaker 2: him sit for one more year? Jordan Love sat for 1974 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,840 Speaker 2: two years in Green Bay behind Aaron Rodgers. Don't this 1975 01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,200 Speaker 2: idea that just because the contracts are not guaranteed and 1976 01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:28,760 Speaker 2: you can easily get out of him, if a guy 1977 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,280 Speaker 2: is not playing that well anymore, you can quarterbacks and 1978 01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,760 Speaker 2: rookies can jump on the scene from year one and 1979 01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,640 Speaker 2: play well. Everybody's not like that. Some guys take a 1980 01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:39,799 Speaker 2: little bit of time. There's nothing wrong with being patient. 1981 01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:41,280 Speaker 2: Is sitting a guy for a year or two if 1982 01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:41,920 Speaker 2: he's not ready. 1983 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,040 Speaker 3: Maybe if Sam Darnold got to marinate as a backup 1984 01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:46,880 Speaker 3: for a couple of years, you would have got this 1985 01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,160 Speaker 3: version of him much earlier. You never know. 1986 01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:51,719 Speaker 2: If Philip Rivers doesn't sit for a year behind Drew Brees, 1987 01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:53,960 Speaker 2: maybe he's shell shocked to not the same player now. 1988 01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:55,519 Speaker 2: Maybe he comes in as a rookie and lights it 1989 01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,679 Speaker 2: up from day one, like Matt Ryan, like everybody's path 1990 01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:02,080 Speaker 2: is different. Idea that you took a quarterback high in 1991 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:03,960 Speaker 2: the first round, therefore he has to play right or way. 1992 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,160 Speaker 2: I've just never subscribed to that theory. It just doesn't 1993 01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,920 Speaker 2: make sense to me. If he's good enough and you say, hey, 1994 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:10,960 Speaker 2: we can try to build a winning franchise around this 1995 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,360 Speaker 2: guy before his big extension kicks in, then all power 1996 01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,680 Speaker 2: to you. But most of the time that's not the 1997 01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:17,360 Speaker 2: case with these guys. 1998 01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,439 Speaker 3: The problem is when you start a rookie, it can 1999 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:24,880 Speaker 3: often buy your head, coach, your GM and just your 2000 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,519 Speaker 3: organization as a whole some time. Right, Hey, you gotta 2001 01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,240 Speaker 3: learn with us, you gotta grow with us here. Don't 2002 01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,439 Speaker 3: judge too early when really he may just never be 2003 01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,760 Speaker 3: that good. Yeah, I'm looking at you, Bryce Young. 2004 01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,639 Speaker 2: Well, of course, but this is the bet the Vikings 2005 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,280 Speaker 2: have made, so now they have to lye in it 2006 01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,000 Speaker 2: like it's a bet of roaches or snakes. You find 2007 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,000 Speaker 2: on the show Fear Factor, which I found out, by 2008 01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:49,120 Speaker 2: the way, is back Johnny Knoxville, which I mean, who's 2009 01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 2: more perfect of a host considering the high jinks that 2010 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:52,120 Speaker 2: he got into with his old show? 2011 01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:53,800 Speaker 3: So it makes all the sense more Hyne Knoxville, and 2012 01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:54,639 Speaker 3: this is fear factor. 2013 01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,559 Speaker 2: So, by the way, last week big for Sam Darnold, 2014 01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,479 Speaker 2: and that I know it was just the Titans. But 2015 01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,439 Speaker 2: you play poorly against the Rams, you recover the very 2016 01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,920 Speaker 2: next weekend you play well. Usually a player like this 2017 01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,519 Speaker 2: who will struggled through their career. It's snowball. Last year, 2018 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,600 Speaker 2: towards the end of the regular season, Adam Wore his 2019 01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,680 Speaker 2: last couple of starts were not very good, so I 2020 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,479 Speaker 2: thought it was big for him to perform as well 2021 01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,120 Speaker 2: as he played at the end of last year. So 2022 01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,519 Speaker 2: I expect a lot more expletives and broken canes from 2023 01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 2: Vikings fans this weekend, except it will be all out 2024 01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,479 Speaker 2: of their system by halftime because this game will be 2025 01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:23,080 Speaker 2: over by then. 2026 01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:27,320 Speaker 3: It's gonna say pairing your old Troy with a Vikings game, 2027 01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,080 Speaker 3: when that is the original sound that we have for 2028 01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:34,040 Speaker 3: this segment, an angry Vikings fan. After that Blair Walshmiths 2029 01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,360 Speaker 3: field goal, Okay, my old Troy, epic failed potential game. 2030 01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:43,320 Speaker 3: It goes to Schadure, Sanders, haters and heathens. You do 2031 01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:45,880 Speaker 3: not want to be the first real team to lose 2032 01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,400 Speaker 3: two Shadour Sanders no offense to the Raiders, but that 2033 01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:52,240 Speaker 3: loss was built in and predictable. I did take the 2034 01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,720 Speaker 3: Browns plus three and a half after I convinced you 2035 01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:58,400 Speaker 3: to well, you know the Raiders better than anyone, dude. 2036 01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,919 Speaker 3: It was free money. But if you're an angry Shadeur 2037 01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:06,080 Speaker 3: Sanders hater and thought Shadoor Sanders was flying high after 2038 01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,680 Speaker 3: that win, wait till he beats a real team. Imagine 2039 01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:13,800 Speaker 3: imagine being a Shadeur Sanders hater and an atheist. With 2040 01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,120 Speaker 3: how much he brings up God after a win, that 2041 01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,519 Speaker 3: must be painful. He mentioned God four times during his 2042 01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:23,439 Speaker 3: first answer on the field post game. He credited God 2043 01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,439 Speaker 3: for his performance. Like his father used to, I don't 2044 01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:29,040 Speaker 3: even need to go to church on Sunday. Shador Sanders 2045 01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:31,599 Speaker 3: is taking me there and he's going to cook all 2046 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,600 Speaker 3: you non believers with this God squad swag. If he 2047 01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:38,120 Speaker 3: beats the forty nine ers on Sunday, the Holy Spirit's 2048 01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,919 Speaker 3: gonna be up your ass. It helps him beat the Niners, 2049 01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:43,160 Speaker 3: that's what That's what it does for him, Like you 2050 01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:47,200 Speaker 3: will need prayer if Shaduur actually throws a forward pass 2051 01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,240 Speaker 3: for a touchdown this time and not a little dump 2052 01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,519 Speaker 3: off screen pass where he doesn't even have to do 2053 01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:54,559 Speaker 3: any of the work like he did against the Raiders. 2054 01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,479 Speaker 2: That Isaiah bonthrow was pretty impressive. 2055 01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:00,320 Speaker 3: Yeah it was. It was nice here and he rolled out. Yeah, 2056 01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:04,360 Speaker 3: but you should do her, haters. God is carrying him 2057 01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:08,120 Speaker 3: forward from what I heard postgame. At least that wasn't 2058 01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,479 Speaker 3: his foot on the gas pedal leading to those two 2059 01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,479 Speaker 3: speeding tickets in a month. That was God pushing him forward, 2060 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,880 Speaker 3: getting him to his eventual destiny faster. 2061 01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:17,240 Speaker 2: That was God. 2062 01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:22,000 Speaker 3: That can cuss Dylan Gabriel through divine tackle vention because 2063 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,400 Speaker 3: that was Ray Lewis's former Ravens team and he's got 2064 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,559 Speaker 3: God on his side. I don't know. I'm just saying 2065 01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:28,840 Speaker 3: I'm poking some fun. 2066 01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:30,920 Speaker 2: It should do her a little bit, I'm faith should 2067 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,160 Speaker 2: do gets sacked eight times and they lose by thirty? 2068 01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,400 Speaker 3: Right, where'd the Lord go? You gotta keep it consistent. 2069 01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:37,800 Speaker 3: Did he forsake him at that point? 2070 01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:38,519 Speaker 6: Yeah? 2071 01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Why have you forsaken me? Lord? So keep it consistent. 2072 01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 3: But like his father, like the son and the Holy 2073 01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:50,080 Speaker 3: Spirit here that he has in him to bring up 2074 01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,640 Speaker 3: God first. I do like it, but just don't be 2075 01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:58,720 Speaker 3: inconsistent when things aren't going well because it's weird to me. 2076 01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:02,679 Speaker 3: There's so many people. It's like a cult following with Shador. 2077 01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:04,400 Speaker 3: He hasn't done much yet. 2078 01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,519 Speaker 2: Oh it's on both sides, Adam, he hasn't done much yet, right, 2079 01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,960 Speaker 2: or you know people, I saw all of the timeline 2080 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,120 Speaker 2: last week after he beat the Raiders, like, oh, he's stunning, 2081 01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:15,200 Speaker 2: like his daddy. I told y'all all these Colorado Johnny 2082 01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,479 Speaker 2: completely people over the last three years, who, by the way, 2083 01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,599 Speaker 2: have been real quiet this year talking about Colorado football. 2084 01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:20,960 Speaker 6: You know. 2085 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,559 Speaker 3: Anyway, I did bring up when we were making fun 2086 01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,240 Speaker 3: of Shador when he went mime and wouldn't talk yes, 2087 01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:28,880 Speaker 3: And I was like, hey, if Colorado is going to 2088 01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:30,920 Speaker 3: be a bottom three team in the Big twelve this year, 2089 01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:35,000 Speaker 3: don't say anything. Yeah, right, I think they are. Oh yeah, 2090 01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:36,720 Speaker 3: I didn't see that coming. It has not been a 2091 01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:40,120 Speaker 3: great year. Look, the same stuff happened with Tim Tebow. Yeah, 2092 01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:43,200 Speaker 3: like people that are gonna love and hate him. It's 2093 01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,800 Speaker 3: the same thing with Shador Sanders. But it would be 2094 01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:50,440 Speaker 3: a pretty incredible story if he's the first Browns quarterback 2095 01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:53,599 Speaker 3: since they came back in ninety nine to actually stick. 2096 01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,919 Speaker 3: Because therefore we find out that God actually hasn't abandoned 2097 01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:01,639 Speaker 3: Browns fans. I felt like he has over the last 2098 01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:02,599 Speaker 3: twenty five years. 2099 01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,960 Speaker 2: I'm riting, yeah, you know, and so am I. When 2100 01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:07,640 Speaker 2: it comes to the next category. 2101 01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:09,040 Speaker 1: Mark under the microscope. 2102 01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, the player. Everyone should watch closely this weekend. I'm 2103 01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,920 Speaker 2: gonna pairt a lot of what you said about Shador Sanders. 2104 01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,080 Speaker 2: He had a lot of haters, a lot of people 2105 01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:18,720 Speaker 2: who falling all over him, and I think the most 2106 01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,160 Speaker 2: practical thing that you can do, which I guess for 2107 01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:24,240 Speaker 2: our industry is probably frowned upon. Just wait and see, 2108 01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:26,439 Speaker 2: wait and see, you're gonna have a hot take. I 2109 01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,280 Speaker 2: just gotta say, look, pick a sigh. I'm sorry. One 2110 01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,960 Speaker 2: and one start and one quarter or whatever it was 2111 01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:33,960 Speaker 2: against Baltimore is not enough for me to judge what 2112 01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,280 Speaker 2: he is or isn't all Wes said last week going 2113 01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:37,960 Speaker 2: into that game against the Raiders like, I just want 2114 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,840 Speaker 2: to see if the guy belongs because he looked like 2115 01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,400 Speaker 2: a competent player that can make plays on the field. 2116 01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:44,880 Speaker 2: I mentioned the Isaiah Bond throw was a good throw. 2117 01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:48,080 Speaker 2: You know, he had a terrible interception that he threw 2118 01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:50,800 Speaker 2: right into the waste basket of the line. But you 2119 01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,599 Speaker 2: know what, Joe Flacco, it happens to him too sometimes, 2120 01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,800 Speaker 2: you know, happens to the greatest of him, you know, 2121 01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:58,240 Speaker 2: even though Joe Michael is yeah, the most elite of 2122 01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,920 Speaker 2: the elite in Joe Flacco. So I do want to 2123 01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:02,639 Speaker 2: put him under the microscope and see how he performs 2124 01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:04,400 Speaker 2: against his forty nine er team, which yes, it is 2125 01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:07,519 Speaker 2: a mass unit defensively, but they've played well despite the 2126 01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:09,320 Speaker 2: fact that they've not had some of their better players. 2127 01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,439 Speaker 2: So now there's a full game of game planning under 2128 01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:15,280 Speaker 2: the belt for San Francisco and Robert solid to see 2129 01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,080 Speaker 2: exactly how they can game plan against him. Now, let's 2130 01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:19,360 Speaker 2: see how he responds when a team has a full 2131 01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,720 Speaker 2: game of film on him. So I plays came under 2132 01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:23,519 Speaker 2: the microscope to see how he performs against his forty 2133 01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,320 Speaker 2: nine or defense coming up this weekend. 2134 01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,800 Speaker 3: All right, under the microscope for me, I've got Malik 2135 01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:31,519 Speaker 3: Neighbors and his social media page under the microscope. Oh boy, 2136 01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,960 Speaker 3: in case he tweets out something questioning the coaching staff 2137 01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:37,280 Speaker 3: like he did last week after they blew another lead, 2138 01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:41,160 Speaker 3: this time to the line saying quote, sometimes I think 2139 01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:44,599 Speaker 3: they be making us lose on purpose, because it's no way, bro, 2140 01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,000 Speaker 3: you throw the ball instead of running it to make 2141 01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,880 Speaker 3: him burn two timeouts, then you don't kick the field goal, 2142 01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,400 Speaker 3: then they have to go down and score football common sense. 2143 01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,599 Speaker 3: Am I missing something he deleted? 2144 01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:55,800 Speaker 6: Oh? 2145 01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure he didn't delete that sweet later, right like. 2146 01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,679 Speaker 3: Two minutes later. I don't know. Well, what's the point 2147 01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:02,160 Speaker 3: of deleting? 2148 01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,840 Speaker 2: It isn't ever you know that once you posted, it's 2149 01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:05,160 Speaker 2: out there. 2150 01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,040 Speaker 3: It's just another way to say I was wrong. I'm 2151 01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:08,240 Speaker 3: sorry because I deleted. 2152 01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:09,680 Speaker 2: Well, at least he didn't follow it up with the 2153 01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:10,840 Speaker 2: classic I got hacked. 2154 01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2155 01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:12,240 Speaker 6: Uh. 2156 01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:14,720 Speaker 3: If you are a player for the New York Giants, 2157 01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:19,080 Speaker 3: you've already seen your head coach fired. I kind of 2158 01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:23,920 Speaker 3: think it's a fair question to question the head coach now. 2159 01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:27,719 Speaker 3: They already got one fired. They've blown five fourth quarter leads, 2160 01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,000 Speaker 3: and not just five games they led in the fourth, 2161 01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:34,559 Speaker 3: They've blown five consecutive road games with a lead of 2162 01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:37,440 Speaker 3: ten points or more. The New York Giants. 2163 01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,040 Speaker 2: Sam Blaine Brian Dave ball for last weekend to do. 2164 01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,479 Speaker 3: They had a first and goal at the Lions four 2165 01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,160 Speaker 3: up three with three minutes left, and instead of just 2166 01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,519 Speaker 3: running the ball every time or kicking a field goal 2167 01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:50,080 Speaker 3: and fourth down, they went for the kill, trying to 2168 01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:53,520 Speaker 3: go up two scores. Jamis ended up throwing an incompletion 2169 01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:56,200 Speaker 3: on the fourth down. The Giants got it back down 2170 01:33:56,200 --> 01:33:58,519 Speaker 3: three with three minutes left on the clock. They kicked 2171 01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,559 Speaker 3: the field goal, went into overtime. They would eventually win. Oh, 2172 01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:05,639 Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibbs, what a beast. I actually agree with interim 2173 01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:09,519 Speaker 3: coach Mike Kafka. Here. If you go up six kicking 2174 01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,719 Speaker 3: the field goal there were three minutes left, the Lions 2175 01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,200 Speaker 3: are just gonna march down, score a touchdown. You're gonna 2176 01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,120 Speaker 3: lose by one. You know it's coming. Everyone would predict 2177 01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,840 Speaker 3: that to happen. They already had given up twenty four 2178 01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,000 Speaker 3: points on defense. It wasn't like it was a low 2179 01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,759 Speaker 3: scoring game and you could rely on your defense. Malik 2180 01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:31,040 Speaker 3: Is out with the torn acl. But if I'm a 2181 01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:34,400 Speaker 3: head coach or the interim coach for the New York 2182 01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:37,640 Speaker 3: Giants right now, I'm remembering something that happened in the 2183 01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:41,360 Speaker 3: late nineties. You remember when Warren Sapp delivered a chief 2184 01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:43,840 Speaker 3: shot on Chad Clifton at the end of the game, 2185 01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:46,920 Speaker 3: severely injured him. It was he broke his hip, put 2186 01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:47,799 Speaker 3: him in the hospital. 2187 01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,240 Speaker 2: Change the rule I think of from crackback blocks because 2188 01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:50,679 Speaker 2: of that play. 2189 01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:54,000 Speaker 3: Yes, I remember that. Mike Sherman, head coach of the Packers, 2190 01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,960 Speaker 3: gotten Warren Sapp's face and Warren Sapps said, Oh, you're 2191 01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,599 Speaker 3: so tough. He put a jersey on. You're so tough, 2192 01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:04,639 Speaker 3: you put a jersey on. If I'm kafka here, I'm 2193 01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,280 Speaker 3: doing the reverse of that with my league neighbors. Oh, 2194 01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,320 Speaker 3: if you're so smart, you put a headset on. You 2195 01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:11,840 Speaker 3: call the place you're so smart, she'll put a headset on. 2196 01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:14,360 Speaker 3: That's what I would do. Since he thought that was 2197 01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,360 Speaker 3: so stupid what they did last week. And I actually 2198 01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,439 Speaker 3: agree with the coaching there. It just didn't work out. Whatever. 2199 01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:21,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you in a situation like that, and 2200 01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,719 Speaker 2: if you can talk analytics and all that, just also 2201 01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:25,840 Speaker 2: the tempo of the game of how it's going. You're 2202 01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,360 Speaker 2: not gonna stop them at home. In a situation like that, 2203 01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,639 Speaker 2: you have to go up to course. 2204 01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, the only way you're gonna win. Yeah. And by 2205 01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:33,920 Speaker 3: the way, I guess the loss is uh. 2206 01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:38,000 Speaker 2: It dampens a little bit the phenomenal display of athleticism 2207 01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:41,680 Speaker 2: that Jameis Winston showed by catching that pass, getting a 2208 01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:44,400 Speaker 2: stiff arm, tiptoeing down the sideline and getting to the 2209 01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:46,439 Speaker 2: end zone. I had to I couldn't believe it. That's 2210 01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,519 Speaker 2: a rewinding and watch it a couple of times. I 2211 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,720 Speaker 2: love watching Jamis because that was incredible. I even made 2212 01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:53,200 Speaker 2: fun of him last week saying that he's not feet 2213 01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:54,800 Speaker 2: a foot fleet of foot and he's you know, a 2214 01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,320 Speaker 2: concrete back there in the pocket. Don't tell that to 2215 01:35:57,320 --> 01:35:58,240 Speaker 2: the Detroit defense. 2216 01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:00,600 Speaker 3: Well, he's had a lot of time to build up 2217 01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:02,880 Speaker 3: his like strength on the bench for a while. I guess. 2218 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,400 Speaker 3: So he's back. Yeah, and we're better off for it. 2219 01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,120 Speaker 2: All right, last one? What's our last one? 2220 01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:07,280 Speaker 6: Here? 2221 01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,240 Speaker 1: Mark redemption route the teamer player. 2222 01:36:10,040 --> 01:36:12,000 Speaker 2: Looking to bounce back from last week. I am going 2223 01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,080 Speaker 2: to go with Tampa Bay at home against the Cardinals. 2224 01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,320 Speaker 2: I went with Tampa in my redemption round last week 2225 01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:18,479 Speaker 2: when they played the Rams in LA and that did 2226 01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:21,559 Speaker 2: not go well. I can't even play Baker Mayfield for 2227 01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:23,599 Speaker 2: that by him being injured, because they were getting their 2228 01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,559 Speaker 2: ass kick well before he got injured before the end 2229 01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,360 Speaker 2: of the first half, throwing child Anyways, Yeah, now, Bake 2230 01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,280 Speaker 2: you di practice towards the end of the week. Don't 2231 01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:31,880 Speaker 2: know one hundred percent if he's going to be playing 2232 01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,000 Speaker 2: or not. Let's assume that he will. But the Bucks, really, 2233 01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,320 Speaker 2: their issue has been defensively the past month. I don't 2234 01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:39,719 Speaker 2: know what's happened to them, why they've been so bad. 2235 01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:42,719 Speaker 2: It's reasonable to question why I think they can actually 2236 01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:46,200 Speaker 2: bounce back in this game against Arizona. Honestly, if I 2237 01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:48,080 Speaker 2: just take the numbers and matchups and the like out 2238 01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,800 Speaker 2: of the equation, I'm picking them because they need to. 2239 01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,200 Speaker 2: They dodged a bullet with the Panthers losing to the 2240 01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:56,519 Speaker 2: forty nine ers on Monday night, But it goes without 2241 01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:58,360 Speaker 2: saying that they have to handle their own business if 2242 01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:00,720 Speaker 2: they have hopes of holding long to this division. The 2243 01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:03,840 Speaker 2: Bucks have lost four of their last five games, Adam, 2244 01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,200 Speaker 2: and really weren't competitive in any of them. 2245 01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:07,960 Speaker 3: And they got two more against my Panthers. That's right. 2246 01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:10,040 Speaker 2: That Patriots game not as close as the final score 2247 01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:12,760 Speaker 2: would indicate. So now they have three straight home games 2248 01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:16,080 Speaker 2: against three teams that are going nowhere Cardinals, Saints, Falcons, 2249 01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:18,559 Speaker 2: Bucky every coming back into the lineup, So they do 2250 01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:21,519 Speaker 2: have some things working into their favor. Even if Bacon 2251 01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,840 Speaker 2: Mayfield doesn't play and it is teddy Bridge rider out 2252 01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:27,479 Speaker 2: there this week, I think they should and honestly hopefully 2253 01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,559 Speaker 2: for them, for their sake, will be able to get 2254 01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:30,280 Speaker 2: beat the Cardinals. 2255 01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:33,080 Speaker 3: Teddy Bridge over trouble Waters will be able to hold 2256 01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,360 Speaker 3: things down. You would hope, I hope. No, I don't 2257 01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:38,600 Speaker 3: those You don't want that, you want them back. I 2258 01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,560 Speaker 3: don't know. You mentioned earlier about sometimes you need to 2259 01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,599 Speaker 3: see how bad you are and have a teardown. Maybe 2260 01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:47,400 Speaker 3: we need that in Carolina, like I don't need some 2261 01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:49,720 Speaker 3: fake little playoff division win. 2262 01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,280 Speaker 2: Adam, what did you call the last four years? 2263 01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm in football hell. The Bills have been as 2264 01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:03,000 Speaker 3: of late, absolutely so. They've lost two of their last three, 2265 01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:06,280 Speaker 3: including a game against the Dolphins, which I predicted. They're 2266 01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:09,839 Speaker 3: looking for some redemption. They're on the road in Pittsburgh. 2267 01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,800 Speaker 3: They will beat not the one arm man, but the 2268 01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,800 Speaker 3: one wrist man in Aaron Rodgers. He's still got a 2269 01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:19,559 Speaker 3: left arm, a left hand, a left elbow. Just no 2270 01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:23,000 Speaker 3: risk there, so no watch. So I expect more clock 2271 01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:27,320 Speaker 3: malfunctions and game management issues from Mike Tomlin as you 2272 01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:30,880 Speaker 3: usually get. Mike Tomlin said it's all system go. It's 2273 01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,840 Speaker 3: all systems go for Aaron Rodgers. I'm not sure you 2274 01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:38,360 Speaker 3: want that. It's almost December and Mason Rudolph the red 2275 01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:41,880 Speaker 3: Nose quarterback. He needs to be leading them this time 2276 01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:44,400 Speaker 3: of the year. How do you get the red nose? 2277 01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:46,920 Speaker 3: It's cold out this time of the year. It's also 2278 01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,840 Speaker 3: read from when Miles Garrett beat him with his own helmet. 2279 01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:53,080 Speaker 3: That was incredible. I had to go back and watch 2280 01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:57,280 Speaker 3: that today. That's like twenty nineteen, one of the craziest 2281 01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:59,599 Speaker 3: things I've ever seen on the field. So at worst, 2282 01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:04,559 Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph is good at getting the other team's best 2283 01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:09,000 Speaker 3: player ejected. Aaron Rodgers is not doing that. So because 2284 01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,960 Speaker 3: it's not Rudolph under center, I got the Bills winning 2285 01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:15,080 Speaker 3: this game and redeeming themselves in Pittsburgh. 2286 01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:17,599 Speaker 2: You're seriously telling me that if Mason Rudolph were starting 2287 01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:20,000 Speaker 2: this game, you would be taking the Pittsburgh Steelers to win. 2288 01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:23,439 Speaker 3: Tis the season. Rudolf the Red Nose Reindeer led the 2289 01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,559 Speaker 3: sleigh like how he's got to leave the. 2290 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,479 Speaker 2: Steelers right Your nose is growing like Pinocchio's right now. 2291 01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:29,480 Speaker 3: It's so ridiculous. 2292 01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:34,519 Speaker 2: That is the NFL six back here for Week thirteen. 2293 01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:37,519 Speaker 2: It is fn A on FSR coming up next. It 2294 01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:40,720 Speaker 2: is a big weekend in college football, had already got 2295 01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:43,720 Speaker 2: started on Friday night, and we got more actually coming 2296 01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,280 Speaker 2: up and riberal week coming up here on Saturday afternoons. 2297 01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,559 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that and more coming up next. 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Be sure to follow the 2308 01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,759 Speaker 2: podcast ratied five stars, and you can even provide a review. 2309 01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:23,080 Speaker 3: Again. 2310 01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:26,440 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, 2311 01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,720 Speaker 2: and you'll find today's full show posted right after we 2312 01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:30,679 Speaker 2: get off the air. 2313 01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,559 Speaker 3: Before that we got two on two off, But before 2314 01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:34,479 Speaker 3: that we got this. 2315 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,400 Speaker 1: College football forecast with f and A. 2316 01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:41,559 Speaker 3: All right, so we had a bit of a shake 2317 01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:46,120 Speaker 3: up earlier tonight with Texas taking down Texas A and M. 2318 01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:50,519 Speaker 3: I mean, it's not that crazy. I did say a 2319 01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:57,200 Speaker 3: month ago I thought if Texas was competitive against Georgia yep, 2320 01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:00,559 Speaker 3: which they really weren't, that gave that away. I feel the. 2321 01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:03,280 Speaker 2: Game was closer than the final score would indicate. That 2322 01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:05,519 Speaker 2: was a one score game. What early in the fourth 2323 01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:06,760 Speaker 2: late in the third. 2324 01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:11,439 Speaker 3: It was in the third quarter when let's see, they 2325 01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:14,280 Speaker 3: had two fourth down calls, right Kirby smart that they 2326 01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:19,160 Speaker 3: converted and then they went on side kick after scoring 2327 01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:21,479 Speaker 3: that touchdown and scored another and the game was basically 2328 01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:23,719 Speaker 3: over correct I think it was still third. 2329 01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not as if they got you know, 2330 01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:29,519 Speaker 2: completely bludgeoned, went off the field the entire game. 2331 01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:31,160 Speaker 3: But I think if you're going to be a three 2332 01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:34,600 Speaker 3: loss team and get in, I think they needed to 2333 01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:38,120 Speaker 3: perform better than that and be closer. I thought if 2334 01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:43,000 Speaker 3: they were closer then won against Arkansas convincingly. They did, 2335 01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,599 Speaker 3: and then if they beat Texas A and M, they 2336 01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:48,599 Speaker 3: would have an outside shot. They would have a pretty 2337 01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:49,639 Speaker 3: good shot of getting it. 2338 01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,960 Speaker 2: I still think they have an outside shot. Ultimately, I 2339 01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:56,160 Speaker 2: don't think they will because if you value scheduling tough 2340 01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:58,280 Speaker 2: in the non conference, which is something that the committee 2341 01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:01,160 Speaker 2: said that they did. Now, granted, Texas had Sam, Houston 2342 01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:03,800 Speaker 2: State and UTEP in there, but they did go to 2343 01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:07,160 Speaker 2: Columbus and face Ohio State, and to date, more than 2344 01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:09,840 Speaker 2: anybody else has given Ohio State the biggest run for 2345 01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:11,360 Speaker 2: its money than anybody. 2346 01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:13,240 Speaker 3: Was fourteen to seven, wasn't it. Yes it was, and. 2347 01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:16,760 Speaker 2: They outgained Ohio State offensively, so they were right there 2348 01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:18,880 Speaker 2: in there with them. They also they have three wins 2349 01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:23,160 Speaker 2: over top fourteen opponents. My problem is, so I wouldn't 2350 01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:24,880 Speaker 2: put them in, but I can certainly understand there's a 2351 01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,400 Speaker 2: compelling enough argument to put them in over certain two 2352 01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:28,080 Speaker 2: loss teams. 2353 01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:32,599 Speaker 3: I can't do it because the loss to Florida is miserable. 2354 01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:34,639 Speaker 2: You lost to a three win team and Taylor. 2355 01:42:34,920 --> 01:42:38,559 Speaker 3: It took overtime to beat Kentucky. I think it took 2356 01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:41,920 Speaker 3: overtime to beat Mississippi State too, So it's not so 2357 01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:42,760 Speaker 3: much they have to. 2358 01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:44,679 Speaker 2: Come back from a big deficit to be Mississippi State. 2359 01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:47,240 Speaker 3: At that people are saying, oh, you're penalizing them for 2360 01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:50,360 Speaker 3: scheduling bravely and going and losing on the road to 2361 01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:54,400 Speaker 3: Ohio State. No, I'm penalizing them for almost losing to 2362 01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:57,719 Speaker 3: two garbage teams in overtime and losing to a garbage 2363 01:42:57,760 --> 01:42:59,800 Speaker 3: team in Florida that fired their head coach. 2364 01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:03,240 Speaker 2: It's like you're in a situation where obviously they're subjectivity 2365 01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:05,519 Speaker 2: and you all of this matters if we're gonna sit 2366 01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,679 Speaker 2: here in debate about who deserves what, how resumes stack up, 2367 01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:10,679 Speaker 2: eyeball tests, how. 2368 01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:13,599 Speaker 3: You win matters, you know, Oh yeah, it's why Notre 2369 01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:15,879 Speaker 3: Dame is still in front of Miami for the committee. 2370 01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:18,080 Speaker 2: Still a joke for me, but that's what it is. 2371 01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:19,200 Speaker 2: That's the standard they've said. 2372 01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:22,720 Speaker 3: Now, how far do you think Texas A and M 2373 01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:26,960 Speaker 3: drops because of this loss? As they're currently third, obviously 2374 01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,679 Speaker 3: they're gonna be behind Georgia. George is gonna jump them. 2375 01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:34,400 Speaker 3: Texas Tech still has to play and will win. Oregon 2376 01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:37,920 Speaker 3: has Washington, and I think that game you want to 2377 01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:40,519 Speaker 3: talk about a trap game tap. They haven't won there 2378 01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:44,719 Speaker 3: since twenty twenty one. Washington has owned them. In Washington, 2379 01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:49,120 Speaker 3: they had the longest I think home winning streak until 2380 01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:53,000 Speaker 3: Ohio State beat them this year. Washington the Huskies right right. 2381 01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:55,640 Speaker 2: I look Oregon, by the way, I still think it 2382 01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,880 Speaker 2: needs to needs to like win to guarantee themselves a 2383 01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:59,800 Speaker 2: spot if they lose it. If they lose this game, 2384 01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:01,439 Speaker 2: I don't know if they make it. 2385 01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:05,519 Speaker 3: To be honest with well, they'll definitely need Michigan to lose. Yeah, 2386 01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:08,280 Speaker 3: if Michigan won an Oregon loss, they would put in 2387 01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:09,080 Speaker 3: Michigan over or. 2388 01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:11,600 Speaker 2: One thousand percent. Oregon isn't a win and you're in 2389 01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,559 Speaker 2: lose and you need and a few dominos to fall 2390 01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:16,559 Speaker 2: to get yourself vaulted back into that situation. 2391 01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:19,400 Speaker 3: Ole Miss won tonight. Yeah, Ole Miss won. 2392 01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:22,400 Speaker 2: The egg Bowl earlier on Friday, and Lane Kiffin because 2393 01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:23,960 Speaker 2: you know, basically said he had to pray on what 2394 01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:26,800 Speaker 2: his decision was, so decision hasn't been made. This isn't 2395 01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:28,720 Speaker 2: always the case, Adam, by the way, speak just to 2396 01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:32,120 Speaker 2: stick on that subject matter, but typically when a guy 2397 01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:36,200 Speaker 2: is staying somewhere, he usually announces it earlier than later. 2398 01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's really just mulling it over and 2399 01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:40,880 Speaker 3: it's really gonna come down to the eleventh hour. 2400 01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:43,680 Speaker 2: Maybe it is, but part of me feels like, if 2401 01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,280 Speaker 2: you were gonna stay at Old Miss, he probably would 2402 01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,160 Speaker 2: have said it after the game, or would have said 2403 01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:49,479 Speaker 2: it before the game even started. 2404 01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:51,760 Speaker 3: Would you call him the H word. If he left 2405 01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:56,840 Speaker 3: the hypocrite well done. 2406 01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,360 Speaker 2: I'm not taking them taking a bite. I'm not doing 2407 01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:04,120 Speaker 2: it at him. I would not call him that regardless. 2408 01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:06,719 Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't know that. I love that he confron 2409 01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:07,160 Speaker 3: the guy. 2410 01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:08,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would not. I would not say that. 2411 01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:11,400 Speaker 3: I thought that was great. What's your final guess on 2412 01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:11,960 Speaker 3: what happens? 2413 01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:13,200 Speaker 1: Quiz shot. 2414 01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:15,759 Speaker 2: I think he's going. I think if he were staying, 2415 01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:17,360 Speaker 2: he would have he would have announced it by now. 2416 01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:20,200 Speaker 2: I think the fact that he's streaking it out I 2417 01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:21,880 Speaker 2: hope I'm wrong. By the way, I really hope he 2418 01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:24,240 Speaker 2: stays at ole Miss and it really builds on something. 2419 01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,120 Speaker 2: I mean, look, they have a chance if Alabama loses 2420 01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:29,200 Speaker 2: the Iron Bolt to a to all Burn, which I 2421 01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:32,040 Speaker 2: think is a distinct possibility by the way, Ole Miss 2422 01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,240 Speaker 2: will make it to the SEC Championship Game and enter 2423 01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:37,599 Speaker 2: even more uncharted territory. They've already have eleven regular season wins, 2424 01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:39,880 Speaker 2: something they've never done. They have had eleven wins in 2425 01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,519 Speaker 2: the past, which Lane Kiffin did a couple of years 2426 01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:43,800 Speaker 2: ago when they won their bowl game. 2427 01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:44,519 Speaker 6: Uh. 2428 01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:46,400 Speaker 2: I mean he has a chance to turn old Miss 2429 01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:50,360 Speaker 2: uh into who knows, maybe maybe a new dynasty. 2430 01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:54,080 Speaker 3: Yes, they could win the national championship this year, couldn't they? 2431 01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:56,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's unlikely, but they're in the mix. 2432 01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:01,160 Speaker 3: Why is it unlikely? I don't trust their defense enough, 2433 01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,599 Speaker 3: like I've already seen them lose to Georgia. 2434 01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:06,240 Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna saying, you make it into the you 2435 01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:08,240 Speaker 2: make it into the postseason, and you have offense the 2436 01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,000 Speaker 2: way that they can score. I don't think they beat 2437 01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,240 Speaker 2: Ohio State or Indian. I'm more concerned about Ohio State 2438 01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:14,360 Speaker 2: or Indiana than anybody else that they face in the field. 2439 01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:17,600 Speaker 3: I think they're not quite a top tier team for me, 2440 01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:20,759 Speaker 3: but they have a chance. You can go to LSU 2441 01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:24,000 Speaker 3: and it could be a couple of years before he 2442 01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:25,400 Speaker 3: has a team ranked seventh. 2443 01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:27,240 Speaker 2: He can also just bring his entire team with them 2444 01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:29,200 Speaker 2: from Ole Miss to LSU and they can keep competing. 2445 01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:31,200 Speaker 2: So I'm not worried about that part as much. No, 2446 01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:33,839 Speaker 2: but the pressure is just so much higher at LSU 2447 01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:37,679 Speaker 2: and the chances of winning in today's college football landscape, 2448 01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,000 Speaker 2: I don't really know if you're having a marquee franchise 2449 01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:41,840 Speaker 2: or name like LSU behind. 2450 01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:44,680 Speaker 3: You helps you that much. I don't think so. I 2451 01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:46,920 Speaker 3: don't see the upside. I don't see the upside to it. 2452 01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:49,960 Speaker 3: What's the point you have a team that could win 2453 01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:54,960 Speaker 3: a national championship this year. Conceivably they might move up. 2454 01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if they would pass Texas A and M, 2455 01:46:57,200 --> 01:47:00,320 Speaker 3: who only has one loss, like tex Is A and 2456 01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:03,760 Speaker 3: L third, Ole Miss is seventh, how much they move up. 2457 01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:05,559 Speaker 3: I don't know. They're not going to get a bye. 2458 01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:06,200 Speaker 3: Most likely. 2459 01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:09,200 Speaker 2: Well, if if All Miss wins the SEC championship game, 2460 01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:12,280 Speaker 2: I think by virtue of that, they're probably gonna jump 2461 01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:14,360 Speaker 2: Texas A and M because then they both have one 2462 01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:16,720 Speaker 2: loss and then they have the extra data point. In fact, 2463 01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:17,840 Speaker 2: they want the conference title. 2464 01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,120 Speaker 3: To get in, they still need Bama to lose to 2465 01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:20,959 Speaker 3: get to the ACS. 2466 01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:22,800 Speaker 2: To to get to the conference championship again, they need 2467 01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:25,000 Speaker 2: Bama to lose to Auburn, which I can definitely see 2468 01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:28,240 Speaker 2: happening because Bama offensively has been shaky this year. Tys 2469 01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:30,280 Speaker 2: Simpson has been shaking the last couple of weeks down 2470 01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:33,639 Speaker 2: the stretch, and Auburn's defense has been great all season long, 2471 01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:36,560 Speaker 2: and offensively now that they've made a change at the 2472 01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:39,559 Speaker 2: quarterback position, which coincides directly with the fact that they've 2473 01:47:39,560 --> 01:47:42,400 Speaker 2: made a change that they had coaching position, they've looked 2474 01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:46,000 Speaker 2: better on offense. So, Jordan Hare, you know, crazy things 2475 01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:48,519 Speaker 2: can happen there in this rivalry. It would not surprise 2476 01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:50,040 Speaker 2: me in the least bit if Auburn found a way 2477 01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:50,919 Speaker 2: to win this game. 2478 01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:55,400 Speaker 3: And if Bama loses, they're out. They're done. Even though 2479 01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:59,320 Speaker 3: really impressive month, Yeah, maybe the most impressive month by 2480 01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:01,839 Speaker 3: an et even given who they were going up against, 2481 01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:05,240 Speaker 3: it's not gonna matter. Yep, three losses and they're done. Uh, 2482 01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:09,280 Speaker 3: I'm worried about my ducks. I gotta go back to 2483 01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:13,760 Speaker 3: that in Washington because here's the thing. Michigan beach if 2484 01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:17,439 Speaker 3: they beat Ohio State again, the number one ranked team 2485 01:48:17,479 --> 01:48:21,439 Speaker 3: by the committee, I think, rightfully, So it's not just 2486 01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:26,400 Speaker 3: that that'll get them to leave Oregon. Michigan beat Washington, correct, 2487 01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:30,679 Speaker 3: so they'll look at common opponent. They would absolutely jump 2488 01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:34,760 Speaker 3: past Oregon, who's best win was against USC. Correct. Penn 2489 01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,679 Speaker 3: State didn't help anybody, No, it doesn't, so which makes 2490 01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:38,960 Speaker 3: this vitally important. 2491 01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:41,640 Speaker 2: Now I agree, and you're right, Oregon has been a 2492 01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:44,599 Speaker 2: house of whoes for them going against Husky Stadium these 2493 01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:45,200 Speaker 2: last few. 2494 01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:46,000 Speaker 3: Go arounds, forever. 2495 01:48:46,120 --> 01:48:49,439 Speaker 2: But uh, there's something different about this team with Dan Lanning. 2496 01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:51,680 Speaker 2: I think they go on there and handle business. I'm 2497 01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:53,559 Speaker 2: not really that concerned about it, to be honest with you, 2498 01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:55,280 Speaker 2: despite the fact ORGA has been doing this for the 2499 01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:58,080 Speaker 2: past month with like two of their top three receivers hurt. 2500 01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:00,920 Speaker 3: Yes, guys haven't even been playing and they've had much 2501 01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:02,519 Speaker 3: more thin than people realize, and they've. 2502 01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:04,360 Speaker 2: Still found ways to be able to win games and 2503 01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:08,040 Speaker 2: be tough. So I think Washington potentially puts up a fight, 2504 01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:10,439 Speaker 2: but ultimately as the organ being able to pull this 2505 01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:13,679 Speaker 2: one out. The one that to look at is Michigan 2506 01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,880 Speaker 2: versus Ohio State because Michigan's won this game the last 2507 01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:17,960 Speaker 2: four times. 2508 01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:20,599 Speaker 3: Well, and they were twenty point dogs last year, correct 2509 01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:24,240 Speaker 3: and they won. They have a better chance of winning 2510 01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:25,120 Speaker 3: this one well. 2511 01:49:25,160 --> 01:49:27,360 Speaker 2: Also, if you consider what the conditions are going to be, 2512 01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:31,760 Speaker 2: which is snow flurries forty mile an hour wins. So look, 2513 01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:33,720 Speaker 2: Michigan can't throw the ball in lock anyway, So what 2514 01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,080 Speaker 2: difference does it make for them? Yeah, Julian Sane. People 2515 01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:38,479 Speaker 2: are saying like, well, this is now his opportunity to 2516 01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:40,720 Speaker 2: jump ahead in the Heisman race, and really showcase what 2517 01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:43,920 Speaker 2: he can do and maybe create some separation. Does it 2518 01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:45,880 Speaker 2: seem to be like the most ideal conditions for you 2519 01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:46,720 Speaker 2: to be able to do that. 2520 01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:51,120 Speaker 3: It is interesting to me that. Look, I said, I 2521 01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:53,920 Speaker 3: think Ohio State should be ranked number one, but we 2522 01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:57,360 Speaker 3: are putting in a lot of that just based upon 2523 01:49:57,439 --> 01:50:02,120 Speaker 3: them being the champs and them dominated some bad competition. 2524 01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:05,280 Speaker 3: It's just interesting they haven't really been tested. Some of 2525 01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:08,000 Speaker 3: it is because, yes, they have been that good. Some 2526 01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:10,799 Speaker 3: of it is because they just haven't ended up playing 2527 01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:13,599 Speaker 3: a really good team given their schedules so far this season. 2528 01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:15,519 Speaker 2: They just, you know, it, had a year where they 2529 01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:19,960 Speaker 2: didn't have Oregon or Indiana in the regular season or US. 2530 01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:20,760 Speaker 3: Up in the States screwing. 2531 01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:22,760 Speaker 2: Everybody at the upper echelon of the conference. They just 2532 01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:24,320 Speaker 2: had one of those you know, fluky years. 2533 01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:24,439 Speaker 6: Now. 2534 01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:26,600 Speaker 2: Granted that they've handled business, and we talked about the 2535 01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:28,479 Speaker 2: fact that Texas gave them the biggest run for their 2536 01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:30,920 Speaker 2: money in Week one of the season. So I can't 2537 01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:32,880 Speaker 2: necessarily dock Ohio State for that. 2538 01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:35,800 Speaker 3: I'm not docking it. I just I'm more intrigued because 2539 01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:36,960 Speaker 3: of it, you know, sure. 2540 01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And Michigan's been on the heater and I've 2541 01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,200 Speaker 2: played extremely Now, look, they've had some close calls too, 2542 01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:44,000 Speaker 2: like Northwestern and the game at Wrigley Field was tough, 2543 01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:46,120 Speaker 2: but there was also high wins in a situation there too. 2544 01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:47,600 Speaker 3: So uh, that's the. 2545 01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:49,840 Speaker 2: Game that I'm probably the most intrigued by. That game 2546 01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:53,960 Speaker 2: in the Iron Bowl, for sure. Both have humongous playoff implications, 2547 01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:55,880 Speaker 2: and uh, it would not surprise me in the at 2548 01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:57,400 Speaker 2: least been if Michigan made this five in a row 2549 01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:58,240 Speaker 2: against Ohio State. 2550 01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:02,240 Speaker 3: A better chance of up saying those teams Auburn beating 2551 01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:04,280 Speaker 3: Alabama or Michigan beating Ohio State. 2552 01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:06,080 Speaker 2: I think because of the way the two teams have 2553 01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:08,200 Speaker 2: played recently, I think that Auburn has a better chance 2554 01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:10,719 Speaker 2: of beating Alabama than Michigan has a beating Ohio State. 2555 01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:16,720 Speaker 3: Okay, now what about Oklahoma? Is there a chance? Are 2556 01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:20,000 Speaker 3: you saying there's a chance because I think everybody's just 2557 01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:21,839 Speaker 3: expecting them to win against LSU. 2558 01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:24,839 Speaker 2: Sure they're in disarray, they should with a backup quarterback 2559 01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:26,360 Speaker 2: with an offense that sucks anyway. 2560 01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes at Oklahoma offense though their defense is so good, 2561 01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:34,120 Speaker 3: but their offense if Mateer's not feeling well with that thumb. 2562 01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,880 Speaker 3: I don't know that would be that would really upend 2563 01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:39,360 Speaker 3: things ranks. 2564 01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:41,800 Speaker 2: Less about the thumb and more about just general inconsistency 2565 01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:43,600 Speaker 2: at this point, with Matier. 2566 01:51:43,479 --> 01:51:45,240 Speaker 3: Less of an excuse at this point, I think so. 2567 01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:47,679 Speaker 2: But I don't see this being much of an issue. 2568 01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:50,000 Speaker 2: They're at home, they know what's at stake. This is 2569 01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:52,679 Speaker 2: a de facto playoff game for them against an LSU 2570 01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:54,840 Speaker 2: team that has the interim head coach that's playing off 2571 01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:58,719 Speaker 2: the string. Maybe LSU keeps it close for a half 2572 01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:01,840 Speaker 2: or so. I think I'm looking at eleven and a 2573 01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:04,160 Speaker 2: half point favorite over here, So yeah, I could potentially 2574 01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:06,479 Speaker 2: see LSU covering the spread, and by covering the spread, 2575 01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:07,360 Speaker 2: they can lose by ten. 2576 01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:07,960 Speaker 3: You know. 2577 01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:10,400 Speaker 2: So, I really don't see this as much of a 2578 01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:13,200 Speaker 2: panic issue for Oklahoma personally. 2579 01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:18,400 Speaker 3: Do you see uh the common opponent angle here with 2580 01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:22,160 Speaker 3: Miami now going up against Pitt like after what we 2581 01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:25,479 Speaker 3: saw what Notre Dame did to Pitt, and they're gonna 2582 01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:28,439 Speaker 3: put a ton of stock into style points here with 2583 01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:30,200 Speaker 3: Miami this weekend? 2584 01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:34,840 Speaker 2: No, because, honestly, considering that Miami is ranked twelve and 2585 01:52:34,880 --> 01:52:37,000 Speaker 2: the fact that they really don't have a path outside 2586 01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:41,080 Speaker 2: of just a complete craziness happening to the AEC Championship game. 2587 01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:44,679 Speaker 2: It pretty much tells me that they're screwed about barring 2588 01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:47,840 Speaker 2: chaos ahead of them, because if they're not gonna be 2589 01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:49,439 Speaker 2: ahead of Notre Dame, then who the hell us are 2590 01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:50,280 Speaker 2: they gonna be ahead of? 2591 01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:52,240 Speaker 3: In this in the in the in the ranking is 2592 01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:52,879 Speaker 3: their issue. 2593 01:52:53,320 --> 01:52:56,360 Speaker 2: So even the common opponent part, if they blow out Pit, 2594 01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:58,240 Speaker 2: well Notre Dame blew out Pit, So what difference does 2595 01:52:58,280 --> 01:52:58,559 Speaker 2: it make? 2596 01:52:58,680 --> 01:52:58,920 Speaker 3: Sure? 2597 01:52:59,120 --> 01:53:02,639 Speaker 2: So my Miami's only path is absolute utter chaos ahead 2598 01:53:02,680 --> 01:53:05,839 Speaker 2: of them, which would include Notre Dame losing the Stanford, 2599 01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:09,920 Speaker 2: which ain't happening, by the way, So all due respect 2600 01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:12,200 Speaker 2: to Miami, they're just planning to try to make sure 2601 01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:13,680 Speaker 2: they get their tenth win of the season and get 2602 01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:15,840 Speaker 2: themselves a decent New Year's Bowl game, But I think 2603 01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:19,120 Speaker 2: their playoff hopes are not officially dead, but pretty much dead. 2604 01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:22,559 Speaker 3: What about Utah and BYU in the Big Twelve? 2605 01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:26,560 Speaker 2: Well, BYU is interesting, so most likely a rematch in 2606 01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:29,760 Speaker 2: the Big twelve championship game against Texas Tech. 2607 01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:32,960 Speaker 3: That's the one championship game that could have some real 2608 01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:33,639 Speaker 3: meaning to it. 2609 01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:35,960 Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely, but I'll be honest with you, the way 2610 01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:36,880 Speaker 2: these two teams are built. 2611 01:53:37,240 --> 01:53:37,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 2612 01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:40,840 Speaker 2: If Texas Tech loses to BYU, I think they could 2613 01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:41,960 Speaker 2: they get another victory there. 2614 01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:45,040 Speaker 3: They smoked them the first time. Yeah yeah. And Utah's 2615 01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:49,160 Speaker 3: kind of screwed because they lost to both teams. They 2616 01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:51,880 Speaker 3: really don't have a case. They're kind of capped where 2617 01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:52,800 Speaker 3: they're at they are. 2618 01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:54,360 Speaker 2: There are another one of those teams where they would 2619 01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:57,040 Speaker 2: need absolute chaos ahead of them in order to Like 2620 01:53:57,080 --> 01:54:00,880 Speaker 2: Oklahoma losing Notre Dame losing Alabama, you just need all 2621 01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:02,360 Speaker 2: of the dominoes in front of you to be able 2622 01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:04,160 Speaker 2: to fall. There's just too much to ask for. 2623 01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:06,640 Speaker 3: And even then the committee might go, oh, if all 2624 01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:09,519 Speaker 3: these teams lost, maybe we can justify putting Texas in. 2625 01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:12,720 Speaker 2: It's possible, absolutely right, they could jump in front of 2626 01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:13,400 Speaker 2: them one thousand. 2627 01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:16,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, So a lot to be decided. One thing to 2628 01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:16,600 Speaker 3: keep an eye on. 2629 01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:19,640 Speaker 2: I don't it has very very minor playoff implications, But 2630 01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:22,160 Speaker 2: the battle for Tennessee, if you want to call it that, 2631 01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:24,280 Speaker 2: between Vanderbilt and Tennessee, this is probably the most important 2632 01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:27,680 Speaker 2: game between these two teams, and probably ever We're not 2633 01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,200 Speaker 2: surprised me all Vanderbilt found a weading pick up a 2634 01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:33,160 Speaker 2: victory here. That's for for Tennessee bragging rights. For anybody 2635 01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:33,640 Speaker 2: that cares. 2636 01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:38,920 Speaker 3: It is the best weekend of college football. Rivalry Week. 2637 01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:40,000 Speaker 3: It's hard to say. 2638 01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:41,960 Speaker 2: I cannot say it fast. Adam doesn't need. 2639 01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:47,120 Speaker 3: To watch Rivalry Week. Rivalry Week, rival Rivalry Week. That's 2640 01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:53,080 Speaker 3: pretty good right by Rivalry Week, Red River Rivalry Rivalry Week. 2641 01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:57,680 Speaker 3: I do ton twisters sometimes it helps coming up next 2642 01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:01,800 Speaker 3: too on, Too Off. We both tied again. 2643 01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:02,800 Speaker 6: But. 2644 01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:08,400 Speaker 3: In a different way. We'll explain. I've ad a Oslin, 2645 01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:11,240 Speaker 3: he's Kevin figures. This is fn A on FSR. 2646 01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:16,600 Speaker 6: So lets people deserve more FNA Cottonna. 2647 01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:19,560 Speaker 3: It is f and A on FSR. 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Let's get 2657 01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:44,520 Speaker 2: to it. 2658 01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:51,200 Speaker 3: You are all right, Kevin? So, for a month we've 2659 01:55:51,240 --> 01:55:55,520 Speaker 3: been sparring back and forth and had a stalemate where 2660 01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:58,680 Speaker 3: we both went too and two every week for a month. 2661 01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:03,880 Speaker 3: We tied as well, but uh we both went one 2662 01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:08,680 Speaker 3: and three. Yeah, the BOMs law not good. So the 2663 01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:12,640 Speaker 3: current standings are this. I'm twenty three and twenty five, 2664 01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:16,440 Speaker 3: you're twenty six and twenty two on the season, and 2665 01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:18,360 Speaker 3: Joel Klass thirty one and thirty four. 2666 01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:22,480 Speaker 2: Continued shots at Joel Klass. 2667 01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:26,520 Speaker 3: I'm in Joel clatt territory right now. You know I'm 2668 01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:29,320 Speaker 3: catching up to him in the wrong way, all right, 2669 01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:32,120 Speaker 3: So two on two off works like this, kids, We 2670 01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:36,520 Speaker 3: got to pick two games on favorites and two games 2671 01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:39,920 Speaker 3: off of favorites on underdogs. Correct, So do you want 2672 01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:41,000 Speaker 3: to give me a favorite here, Kevin? 2673 01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:43,320 Speaker 2: So, I'm going with the Miami Dolphins, who are now 2674 01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:45,920 Speaker 2: five and a half point favorites over Breeze Saints. That 2675 01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:48,400 Speaker 2: was six, by the way, so those money coming in 2676 01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:50,680 Speaker 2: on that. The Dolphins, coming off of a bye weekend, 2677 01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:53,360 Speaker 2: played well. These last couple of weeks have turned things 2678 01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:56,240 Speaker 2: completely around all the way to the postseason. They're not 2679 01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:57,640 Speaker 2: on the way to the postseason, but they can the 2680 01:56:57,720 --> 01:56:59,400 Speaker 2: very least can run the Saints off of the field. 2681 01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:02,600 Speaker 3: Very much. Expect that to happen this weekend. Bree had 2682 01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:06,400 Speaker 3: a face like, oh is that surprising? Brie took a 2683 01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:14,040 Speaker 3: sour warhead and puckered up. Well, it's fine, it's fine, alright, alright, 2684 01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:16,280 Speaker 3: what's a favorite for you there? I want to do 2685 01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:20,000 Speaker 3: the same now, No, let's mix it up a little bit. No, 2686 01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:24,240 Speaker 3: do whatever you want, all right, all right, all right, alright, right, 2687 01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:30,800 Speaker 3: I'm going with the New England Patriots minus seven at 2688 01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:34,840 Speaker 3: home against the New York Giants. What is that about? 2689 01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:36,560 Speaker 3: Are you trying to get me to go out with 2690 01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:38,840 Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers. I'm not taking the Panthers. I'm never 2691 01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:41,800 Speaker 3: taking the Panthers again. Take the bait, No, take the bait. 2692 01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:43,600 Speaker 3: Last week that would have screwed me. I would have 2693 01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:47,680 Speaker 3: been holding four. So yes, New England Patriots minus seven. 2694 01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:49,960 Speaker 3: They can cover that against the Giants. They're due for 2695 01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:52,840 Speaker 3: a big game, although their offensive lines a little bit now, 2696 01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:54,240 Speaker 3: very much beat up. 2697 01:57:54,280 --> 01:57:56,560 Speaker 2: You would think the Giants have been pretty scrappy this year, 2698 01:57:56,560 --> 01:57:58,360 Speaker 2: but Hey, that's your pick, so whatever, No hold on 2699 01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:04,240 Speaker 2: my my other on Seattle. I talked about it earlier 2700 01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:05,960 Speaker 2: in the show minus eleven and a half over the 2701 01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:08,000 Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings. I think this game is going to be 2702 01:58:08,040 --> 01:58:11,640 Speaker 2: a complete and total domination as the Vikings almost quite 2703 01:58:11,640 --> 01:58:13,839 Speaker 2: literally are running a warm body out there at quarterbacks 2704 01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:14,800 Speaker 2: some guy I've never heard of. 2705 01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:18,640 Speaker 3: Okay, good luck to him. I've got the Chargers. Oh 2706 01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:22,400 Speaker 3: was that disrespectful? Bre I'm sorry, Chargers minus eight and 2707 01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:26,720 Speaker 3: a half at home against your Raiders? Is that disrespectful? No? 2708 01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:29,440 Speaker 3: I mean eight and a half against the Raiders. They 2709 01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:31,480 Speaker 3: eight and a half. I saw ten. You got eight 2710 01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:33,600 Speaker 3: and a half on this. I guess Raiders fans have 2711 01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:34,640 Speaker 3: been betting it down. 2712 01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:36,080 Speaker 2: Okay, is that how that works? 2713 01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:37,560 Speaker 3: I saw a bettam gym was ten. But all right, 2714 01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:38,760 Speaker 3: we'll get you. We'll give you eight and a half. 2715 01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:42,839 Speaker 3: I'm looking at right now, Chargers minus eight and a half. 2716 01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:49,720 Speaker 3: Kevin's seeing his believing Kevin's checking my work over here. 2717 01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:51,880 Speaker 3: You would have taken him if you knew it was 2718 01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:52,440 Speaker 3: eight and a half. 2719 01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:54,720 Speaker 2: I mean, no, I'll staying I'm staying away from that 2720 01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:55,320 Speaker 2: one anyway. 2721 01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:58,800 Speaker 3: But all right, so I have that, and I have 2722 01:58:58,920 --> 01:59:03,480 Speaker 3: New England as my awns. My favorites, give me it off, 2723 01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:04,720 Speaker 3: give me an underdog here. 2724 01:59:04,920 --> 01:59:07,960 Speaker 2: Indy three and a half point favorites over Houston. That's 2725 01:59:07,960 --> 01:59:10,000 Speaker 2: down from four and a half. I talked about this 2726 01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:10,960 Speaker 2: earlier in the show too. 2727 01:59:11,040 --> 01:59:11,760 Speaker 3: I like Houston. 2728 01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:14,280 Speaker 2: I like the momentum that they have Indianapolis kind of 2729 01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:16,400 Speaker 2: coming down to earth a little bit, especially offensively. That 2730 01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:19,200 Speaker 2: Houston defense has been great recently, so I like Houston 2731 01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:20,800 Speaker 2: to cover that three and a half point spread over 2732 01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:21,240 Speaker 2: the Colts. 2733 01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:25,680 Speaker 3: I might do something really stupid here, do it? Am 2734 01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:29,560 Speaker 3: I really gonna do this? I mean God is on 2735 01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:32,360 Speaker 3: his side. If God is for him, who can be 2736 01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:38,160 Speaker 3: against him? Browns that did me right last week? Plus 2737 01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:44,000 Speaker 3: five at home against the forty nine Ers. The goat, 2738 01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:47,040 Speaker 3: Shadeur Sanders is under center for the Browns. He's got 2739 01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:50,360 Speaker 3: the starting job locked up. Stole this one from me, 2740 01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:52,960 Speaker 3: Hold the exact same one, Yeah it too. I also 2741 01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:55,640 Speaker 3: have the Cleveland Browns covering this game against the stapsist 2742 01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:58,160 Speaker 3: for forty nine Ers, mostly because this Browns defense has 2743 01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:01,760 Speaker 3: been absolutely amazing. Rock Party did not look good and 2744 02:00:01,840 --> 02:00:04,600 Speaker 3: that second half last week the Panthers not beating at 2745 02:00:04,640 --> 02:00:07,720 Speaker 3: me through three picks in the first quarter. It's unbelievable. 2746 02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:10,360 Speaker 2: And Miles Garrett is on is on track to break 2747 02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:13,000 Speaker 2: the all time sacks record. It's been absolutely amazing. 2748 02:00:13,080 --> 02:00:14,600 Speaker 3: How does that flying owners of the radar? 2749 02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:16,880 Speaker 2: Because he plays for the Browns, who are terrible. That's why, 2750 02:00:17,000 --> 02:00:19,600 Speaker 2: Well we have eighteen sacks to like what the twelve 2751 02:00:19,640 --> 02:00:19,960 Speaker 2: games or. 2752 02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:22,480 Speaker 3: Whatever it's been. We need to talk about that more. Yeah, 2753 02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:24,600 Speaker 3: but he still has to break it in sixteen games. 2754 02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:26,800 Speaker 3: If he gets to seventeen. If it takes him seventeen, 2755 02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:27,480 Speaker 3: it's not the same. 2756 02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:29,200 Speaker 2: I kind of feel like it still counts at him. 2757 02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:31,720 Speaker 3: Why because Farv gave it away to Michael straight. 2758 02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:34,320 Speaker 2: There is that and then TJ. Watt absolutely earned it 2759 02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:36,480 Speaker 2: a few years later. So thankfully to say his credit. 2760 02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:38,280 Speaker 2: But Miles Garrett one of the great players in the 2761 02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:40,480 Speaker 2: NFL that people really talk about, because again, he plays 2762 02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:42,960 Speaker 2: for a franchise that no one talks about. Although now 2763 02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:44,680 Speaker 2: they have to star a quarterback the new face of 2764 02:00:44,720 --> 02:00:47,160 Speaker 2: the franchise, Shadu or Sanders at the home maybe Miles 2765 02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:48,200 Speaker 2: Garrett will gets some more run. 2766 02:00:48,200 --> 02:00:52,320 Speaker 3: Two moving forward, all right, my off Tennessee Titans plus 2767 02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:54,200 Speaker 3: six at home against the Jackson calling 2768 02:00:54,240 --> 02:00:56,840 Speaker 2: The Titans all right thanks to Bree, thanks to Mark 2769 02:00:56,880 --> 02:00:58,280 Speaker 2: Project and a Yale coming up next