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Speaker 1: The volume What is going on Everybody? John Middlecock Three

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Speaker 1: and Out podcast. This is the weekend mailbag edition at

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff is my Instagram. This is the way you

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Speaker 1: download Amazon AMP Sunday at about one o'clock. Just you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll play a little golf. I walked, got a little

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Speaker 1: sweat in, just drove home. Listen to Draymond talk about

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Speaker 1: losing the series and how he wants to stay with

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Speaker 1: the Warriors because he's smart, he knows. We talk about

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Speaker 1: this a lot in football. There is so much value

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Speaker 1: in just winning over and over and over again and

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Speaker 1: being a champion and ultimately taking a little less at

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Speaker 1: that level, whether it's the NBA or the NFL, to

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Speaker 1: maintain winning sets you up for life when you already

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Speaker 1: have a ton of money. Because we love winners in

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Speaker 1: this country, especially when it comes to our athletes, especially

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Speaker 1: when they're introduced as champions the rest of their life

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Speaker 1: and part of you know, championship. You know, programs you're

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Speaker 1: seeing it right now with Kelsey and Mahomes. They will

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Speaker 1: be viewed, especially if they win another one. Three four

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Speaker 1: time Super Bowl champion obviously Tom and Gronk and Edelman,

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Speaker 1: so tough al for US Warriors people. Obviously Draymond played.

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Speaker 1: I hate the Lakers. I'm not even gonna lie despise them.

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Speaker 1: You know, as I've gotten older, I don't really hate

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Speaker 1: that many teams like I did when I was a kid.

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Speaker 1: My fandom is so much different now, especially as a

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Speaker 1: degenerate gambler. I just really root for people like gamble on.

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Speaker 1: You know. I don't even hate the Dodgers anymore because

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Speaker 1: I don't care that much about the Giants like I

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Speaker 1: used to. The Lakers are the only team when I

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Speaker 1: see I just root for them to lose. I would

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Speaker 1: root if Lebron was on the team. I did when

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Speaker 1: Kobe was on the team. I love Shack and I

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Speaker 1: rooted for him to lose back in his heyday. So

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Speaker 1: it just it pains me to say Nuggets and five, baby,

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Speaker 1: let's go Denver. Okay, before we dive into the mailbag

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Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff, do you want to go to an

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Speaker 1: buddy the other day. It's like, what's your promo code?

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Speaker 1: day with your lady, friend, with your son, with your dad,

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Speaker 1: So promo code John. Okay, let's start with this question.

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Speaker 1: Seems kind of serious. How would you go about breaking

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Speaker 1: up with a girl who you've been with for about

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Speaker 1: three years? She didn't do anything bad to me. In fact,

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Speaker 1: she's great. I have no complaints about her whatsoever. But

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Speaker 1: I just kind of know I don't see myself marrying her.

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Speaker 1: It sounds bad, but she's not my type looks wise,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not in love with her never really was,

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Speaker 1: despite the fact that she's been great to me. I

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Speaker 1: know she'd be a great wife and mother someday too.

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Speaker 1: Am I being a jackass for even thinking about breaking

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Speaker 1: putting too much emphasis on looks. Would love to get

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Speaker 1: some advice on this. If you're willing, well a couple

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Speaker 1: of things here. You don't find her attractive. You've been

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Speaker 1: dating her for three years, Like, wasn't there a point?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you live with her, Like, have you just

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Speaker 1: been living with her and you do not like her.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing to not be in love with someone,

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Speaker 1: it's another thing to like I don't find her attractive

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Speaker 1: at all, So that seems a little crazy to me.

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Speaker 1: Now listen, full disclosure, I'm not great at breaking up

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Speaker 1: with anybody, and I'm not acting like I'm Brad Pitt

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Speaker 1: here breaking up with people left and right. I've been.

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Speaker 1: I've had a throne in my face too. It's hard

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Speaker 1: because in business I can be very I'm sure many

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Speaker 1: people listening. You know. Once you the older you get,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to money, you just kind of get

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Speaker 1: like the faster you get numb to it. When deals,

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Speaker 1: you just some people can say like, oh, you're an asshole. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's just business, right, But with personal relationships, especially with

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Speaker 1: you got to just have some balls and do it.

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Speaker 1: It's going to suck. I would imagine, you know, her

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a disaster whenever you I don't

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Speaker 1: have a great advice on how to muster up the courage,

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Speaker 1: you know, over dinner. I don't think there's a right time.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a wrong time to do it.

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Speaker 1: I would probably obviously do it in a one on

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Speaker 1: reality is, it's life, you know. I mean a lot

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Speaker 1: of people find themselves in these situations where you have

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Speaker 1: you know, you say you're not attracted to her. That's

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Speaker 1: you know, I've been in situations where I'm attracted. It's

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Speaker 1: just like it's not going to work long term for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason. And it's it's difficult. But the longer it goes,

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Speaker 1: the harder it gets to, you know, go your separate

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Speaker 1: this position it sounds like don't know her, she likes

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Speaker 1: but you got to do it. You don't have a choice.

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Speaker 1: I'm fifty five enjoyed Instagram just to DM you keep

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Speaker 1: up the good work, lifetime Bronco fan. And I'm concerned

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Speaker 1: that Sean Payton brought the physical irresponsibility had in New

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Speaker 1: Orleans with him to the Broncos. He already overpaid two

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Speaker 1: their second or third round draft choice next year for

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Speaker 1: Am I overthinking things? Should I be concerned? I've watched

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Speaker 1: every snap Mike mcglinchy's ever taken. I interviewed him years ago.

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Speaker 1: gave guaranteed, I'm sorry, I that was the craziest contract

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Speaker 1: twenty five million guaranteed. But so you're guaranteeing eighty plus

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Speaker 1: There's a difference once you start paying him that much money,

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Speaker 1: Peyton would be fired. You know, I'm sitting here May thirteenth.

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Speaker 1: who pulled the trigger on that one, right, that was

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Speaker 1: the head coach. Love the show. Been listening to a

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Speaker 1: waiting for the media to apologize and say they screwed up,

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Speaker 1: their emma. They bury you and if they're wrong, they

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Speaker 1: just move on. You know, this is the situation here.

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Speaker 1: This is what's fucked about this situation is the dude

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Speaker 1: it's not over, but clearly derailed. And I saw some

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Speaker 1: recommend these guys do a fucking fantastic podcast. I mean

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Speaker 1: it is just when they got guests on the EBB

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Speaker 1: and flow of the two brothers, it is. I just

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Speaker 1: don't think you can no one else can replicate this,

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Speaker 1: Like it's obviously they're two of the best players in

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Speaker 1: the league. They're brothers. The Kelsey Brothers podcast is really good,

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Speaker 1: and I told Travis hopefully I see him again over

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Speaker 1: the summer. He plays golf at TPC a lot because

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Speaker 1: he's got a buddy who's like a corn fairy guy.

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Speaker 1: I just think, and I told him, I'm like, God,

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Speaker 1: your guys podcast is good man, I mean it is.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's an easy listen and I got pretty

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Speaker 1: high standards, like I don't listen to that many shows,

437
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Speaker 1: and I definitely don't listen to that many athlete shows.

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Speaker 1: But like, just throw on Draymond Green show right now,

439
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Speaker 1: and he can just sit there and talk. That's a

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Speaker 1: hard skill to have. Most athletes that think they can

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Speaker 1: get a podcast can't do it. And the chemistry those

442
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Speaker 1: two have the Andy Reid episode is just it's fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I know this in my experience around him, and I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people that still work with him.

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Speaker 1: I just this guy's work ethic. I just don't think

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Speaker 1: he's slowing down. I don't think he plans on quitting

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Speaker 1: anytime soon. And I think sometimes in pro sports, when

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Speaker 1: you get in a position as a player, like if

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Speaker 1: you're Gronkowski and you get around Tom, you don't ever

450
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Speaker 1: leave him. When you're a coach, you know, and you

451
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Speaker 1: get Patrick Mahomes I think you coach too. You can't

452
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Speaker 1: coach anymore. This is an opportunity from the football gods

453
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Speaker 1: that just doesn't get any better. And Andy likes football

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Speaker 1: more than any human I've ever been around, and I

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Speaker 1: would put him in the history of the sport. I

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Speaker 1: would say, like him and Belichick. I mean, I'm serious,

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Speaker 1: I mean Sean Payton to a year off, and he

458
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Speaker 1: would never take a year off, not like the prime

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Speaker 1: of his career, Like I just don't even think like

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton think or not Sean Payton. Sean McVay like

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Speaker 1: thinks about going to TV at thirty six years old,

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Speaker 1: Like Andy, is nothing in common with him. I mean

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Speaker 1: Andy's love of coaching and being around the football team.

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Speaker 1: I would I just think him and Belichick are on

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Speaker 1: a completely different level than every other coach. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's and listen, like these guys, I'm Sean McVay is

467
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Speaker 1: a junkie, Sean Payton's a junkie, Kyle Shanahan's a junkie.

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Speaker 1: Like obviously, these guys like football infinitely more than all

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Speaker 1: of us listening and think we like football. And I

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Speaker 1: would not know that because I thought I liked football

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Speaker 1: a lot until I started working in it and seeing

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Speaker 1: it and you just go, Yeah, this guy's not going

473
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Speaker 1: away so of health permitting, and he's don't sleep on coaching.

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Speaker 1: He changed his diet. I think he's going nowhere. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and if you're the Chiefs, you want him to go nowhere.

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Speaker 1: He's I mean, you got you got two bread with

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Speaker 1: nurse there in that building, and I mean I would

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Speaker 1: Travis for sure, but I mean the stalwarts leading the

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Speaker 1: ship right driving the bus are Pat Andy. And as

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Speaker 1: long as you got those two guys, and then you

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Speaker 1: can put a couple elite players with them, Chris Jones,

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Speaker 1: Travis and led Vets Draft, you're gonna dominate. You are

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Speaker 1: going to dominate. Andy's been dominating. Donovan McNabb was a

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Speaker 1: fantastic talent. I mean he's probably like sixty percent of

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Speaker 1: mahomes and they were dominating in the two thousands. I mean,

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Speaker 1: think about that. Sixty percent honestly might be a stretch.

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Speaker 1: And Donovy McNabb was like a pro bowler. You get

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Speaker 1: that guy. I mean, holy, I just I think it's on. Hey,

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Speaker 1: do you know what hotel visiting teams stay at when

490
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Speaker 1: playing the Jets and Giants at MetLife. Do you want

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Speaker 1: to do some autograph seeking. No, I have no clue.

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Speaker 1: I guess I could find out, and I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to give that information away. Usually they stay, I actually

494
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Speaker 1: got no clue. I mean, I remember I stayed one

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Speaker 1: time at like twenty minutes away in Jersey when I

496
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Speaker 1: went to a game because I had to go back

497
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Speaker 1: and work after it was late. Purely as prospects pre NFL,

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Speaker 1: how would you rank Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence, and Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 1: I would put Luck number one. Now it's also easy

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Speaker 1: for me to do that, seeing how once he came

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Speaker 1: to the pros, he immediately started going to Pro Bowls

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Speaker 1: and taking a team that had just won two games

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Speaker 1: to the playoffs, and by like his third year, he

504
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Speaker 1: took them to the conference championship game. Now Caleb could

505
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Speaker 1: easily do that, and Trevor by year two is you know,

506
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Speaker 1: leading them back in a playoff victory. Now he self

507
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Speaker 1: inflicted through some picks in the first half. If I

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Speaker 1: was just purely going out of college, which is I

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Speaker 1: think what you're asking, It's hard to do that though,

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Speaker 1: because I, you know, Luck played a relatively long time

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Speaker 1: in the league, and you know I got watched Trevor

512
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Speaker 1: last year. I would go Andrew, Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: I think if they were all in the draft, that's

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Speaker 1: probably how it would go. Now, I do think there

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Speaker 1: would be teams or individual gms if they were all

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Speaker 1: coming out of college at the same time. That might

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Speaker 1: value Caleb over Andrew. But remember Andrews. Andrews a fucking load.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the dude's like six ' five, two fifty.

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Speaker 1: I think Andrew's one of the best prospects in like

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Speaker 1: the history League. Just physically in his play, you could

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Speaker 1: you know, one downfall of his clearly was staying in

522
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Speaker 1: the pocket. Mail back question, why do the Raiders have

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Speaker 1: some more primetime games than the Saints? Thanks no clue

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Speaker 1: I heard. I haven't even looked at the Raiders schedule,

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Speaker 1: but I think I heard that have five primetime games. Now,

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Speaker 1: the flexing of these games, you know, you can flex

527
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Speaker 1: Monday night games, you can flex Sunday night games relatively early.

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Speaker 1: There's no guarantee if you're not good. I do think

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Speaker 1: the Raiders were close last year. Jimmy Garoppolo is a

530
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Speaker 1: pretty big star. Their games at home are sweet. I

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Speaker 1: also think if I look at their I would guess

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Speaker 1: they're playing, you know, the Chargers and Chiefs in some

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Speaker 1: of those primetime games. The AFC West is a pretty

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Speaker 1: easy prime time Last year was hard with Hackett and

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, but it's those teams pop on TV. Curiously,

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Speaker 1: if you getting takes on the idea of draft lotteries

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Speaker 1: in sports like the NHL and NBA from a league

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Speaker 1: business perspective, guess I am just confused is why other

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Speaker 1: leagues operate in a lottery style way, since personally, I

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Speaker 1: feel the NFL style draft is the only way that

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Speaker 1: makes sense with the worst teams having at least the

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Speaker 1: chance to get out of the basement. My favorite part

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Speaker 1: of the NFL is the parody, which I feel like

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Speaker 1: the draft has a big part of emphasizing that you'd

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Speaker 1: think a rising tide lifts all ships versus getting the

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Speaker 1: best players to the biggest markets. Well, I think in basketball,

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Speaker 1: the NFL doesn't have to worry about tanking. What's his

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Speaker 1: name that owns to the Dolphins literally told Flores like,

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Speaker 1: I'll pay you to lose, and he won through their

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Speaker 1: last five games. You know, last year Levey Smith Texans

551
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Speaker 1: worked awful somehow they win at the end and they

552
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Speaker 1: don't get the number one pick. In basketball, it's pretty

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Speaker 1: easy to tank, it really is, because you can put

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Speaker 1: guys on ice, you can put out just complete scrub teams.

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Speaker 1: It's just that there's not much strategy if you're just

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Speaker 1: rolling out G League teams. Hinky showed you. I actually

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Speaker 1: like it in the in basketball because they need They

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Speaker 1: can't just have teams tanking left and right. In football,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about it. If in football

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Speaker 1: you had to worry about tanking like you do in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. I do think the draft lottery is important

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Speaker 1: because you can't have no one cares, you know, ten

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Speaker 1: plus teams not caring about the regular season for the

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Speaker 1: last couple months. Like ultimately, your product is the games.

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Speaker 1: So I think it works for both leagues. I think

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Speaker 1: the NBA tried it out early and it's become a

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Speaker 1: TV event for them, the lottery night, that thirty minute

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Speaker 1: television show. I guess I haven't spent that much time

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Speaker 1: thinking about it. Okay, last question. With Dan Snyder selling

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Speaker 1: the Commanders most likely against his will, my question is

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Speaker 1: what can the NFL and the owners do to force

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Speaker 1: the sale of a franchise. I thought they'd have to

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Speaker 1: prive the Commanders out of dance Dan's cold dead hands.

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Speaker 1: It's fascinating actually. Also, is Mark Davis next on the list? Well,

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Speaker 1: I think they have tried so many different angles on

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Speaker 1: Dan Snyder with all these like political, you know, attacks

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Speaker 1: from a football standpoint, that they just kind of bled

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Speaker 1: them out. And I think that's what they did. They

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Speaker 1: just kind of bled them out. But it's been an

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Speaker 1: U feels like six seven years. I mean it's it's

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00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: been bad with him owning the franchise, but these last

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Speaker 1: I don't know, since like twenty fifteen, sixteen seventeen, it

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00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: just started getting ugly, started really getting ugly. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they do this. They would love

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Speaker 1: to get the Raiders and the Cardinals into new hands.

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Speaker 1: Those two areas are just too profitable. They're too important

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Speaker 1: for the future of just the West Coast. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these are booming markets Vegas and the Greater Scottsdale area.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'll say this about Mark Davis, he

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Speaker 1: tries he just has limitations because they just don't have

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Speaker 1: any other businesses. I think people do like them. You know,

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Speaker 1: people think I hate the Raiders. Whenever I interacted with Mark,

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Speaker 1: Mark probably hates me. I always enjoyed him. He was

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Speaker 1: very cool. He's pretty normal, but there are limitations with

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Speaker 1: what he can do. And you know bidwell, I think

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Speaker 1: it is just people question like he's a guy, a

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Speaker 1: good guy like. I mean, we saw some of those

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Speaker 1: stories come out about But you charge the team like

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Speaker 1: players to take home dinner. That is absurd. That is insane.

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Speaker 1: You're saying if Kyler Murray wants to take home like chicken,

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Speaker 1: rice and veggies to eat. While I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: study film, but plays call of duty, he can't take

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Speaker 1: a to go box. I wouldn't have been able to

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Speaker 1: pay rent if the Eagles didn't give me to go boxes.

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Speaker 1: I mean without the Eagles cafeteria, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I could have survived in Philly off twenty five grand.

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Speaker 1: Every team coaches players to go boxes. You're charging for that.

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Speaker 1: There's just no way around it. That's an embarrassment. I'm

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Speaker 1: not expecting you to be Google. And even though I

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Speaker 1: think Google cut this out, like having massage therapists and

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Speaker 1: do everyone's dry cleaning. Even though teams, like when I

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Speaker 1: was in Philly, we got our haircut at the office.

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Speaker 1: You had to pay for it, but it was just

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Speaker 1: a high level operation. And from everything you hear about Bidwell,

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Speaker 1: it's the opposite. It's just it's mom and pop shops.

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Speaker 1: The wrong works. I know, mom and pop shops that run,

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Speaker 1: you know, like a real business. It feels like he

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Speaker 1: just cuts every corner possible. And this is what I'll

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Speaker 1: say about Mark. He doesn't cut corners like that. Everything

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Speaker 1: he built in Vegas, I mean it wasn't him, I

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Speaker 1: mean the city. But he tries. He just doesn't. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't execute it very well, but he does try. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel like Bidwell even tries. Okay, we'll get you

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Speaker 1: out here on that one. Appreciate everyone listening and uh,

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