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Speaker 3: Oh what is going on? I hope your late night

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Speaker 3: hours are going swimmingly? Well, my goodness, it's a party tonight.

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Speaker 3: You know. Oreo, the neighborhood cat, just jumped up on

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Speaker 3: a chair. She's like, let's go sports radio, fill in,

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Speaker 3: let's get after it. So she looked at me with

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Speaker 4: Right there. Love that.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So there are a lot to get to, plenty

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Speaker 3: of things, a little bit of hoops tonight, a little

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Speaker 3: bit lots of ball. We are ramping right up to

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Speaker 3: the beginning of the football season, college football andfl lots

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Speaker 3: of training camp storylines and a little bit later on

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Speaker 3: the show. I want to get to the training camp hype.

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Speaker 3: This is the season of hype. What do you buy?

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Speaker 3: What do you sell? In terms of what's actually real,

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Speaker 3: what's going to translate to the regular season. So I'll

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Speaker 3: get to that as the show goes along, but I

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Speaker 3: want to start with this. You know, there's a story

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Speaker 3: with Shador Sanders starting the first preseason game for the

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns, and like, big picture, I've got all this sound,

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Speaker 3: all these angles, all this stuff. But before we get

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Speaker 3: to any of that, right before the show, I just

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Speaker 3: kind of paused and I thought about, I'm really just

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Speaker 3: trying to get to the truth of things, you know,

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Speaker 3: for the most part, from topic to topic, I really

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Speaker 3: just want to try to figure out what the truth

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Speaker 3: actually is. And I think that's important because in this

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Speaker 3: day and age, there's a lot of stuff where you

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Speaker 3: get these I don't know, like these look at me

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Speaker 3: and you know people are gonna eat it up, and hey,

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Speaker 3: that might be good on one side in terms of,

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Speaker 3: you know, your relevancy and maybe your paycheck and all

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Speaker 3: that stuff, but that might get you further away from

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Speaker 3: the truth. I never want to stray so far away

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Speaker 3: from the truth that I don't understand what it even is,

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Speaker 3: you know. So with the Shador Sanders story starting with

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Speaker 3: the Browns on Friday night, They're at the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 3: It's a weird story. We'll start with the depth chart

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Speaker 3: was released a little bit earlier this week. Chaduur is

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Speaker 3: QB four. He's looking up at Dylan Gabriel, another fellow rookie,

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Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco. So Shadour is QB four and

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Speaker 3: at least for this preseason game on Friday, he's QB one. Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's not unprecedented, but a little odd, little odd right there,

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Speaker 3: So you take that into account. Now, the audio I

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Speaker 3: want to play this could not be more different. The

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Speaker 3: first piece of audio you'll here is from ESPN's Lewis Riddick,

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Speaker 3: and he was on Get Up and he's got his

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Speaker 3: And then you'll hear from Mary Kay Cabot, who has

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Speaker 3: could not differ more So. First, let's start with Lewis Riddick.

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Speaker 3: He's basically saying, like, man, what are the Browns doing here? Exactly?

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Speaker 3: Starting Shaduur, he hasn't gotten many reps. It's an uphill battle,

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Speaker 5: I'm afraid he's gonna get on the field in preseason

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Speaker 5: games without a lot of practice reps, and then they're

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Speaker 5: gonna ask him to perform these heroic casts in order

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Speaker 5: he hasn't had enough reps to really get comfortable. That's

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Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, coaches are going, why

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Speaker 5: Why are you doing that technique? Well, damn, coach, I

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Speaker 3: Hmm okay, interesting take. He's basically calling you know, it

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Speaker 3: with a little Beastie Boy's reference right there. Now, this

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Speaker 6: They're not doing that. They're doing what's right for should

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Speaker 3: Uh huh oh okay, Like listen, I don't know that

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Speaker 3: might be her real opinion, that might be her real report.

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Speaker 3: see it. That just sounds like you're carrying the water

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Speaker 3: don't know how long that was. That was about twenty

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Speaker 3: doing everything doing Yep. They won't succumb to public pressure.

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Speaker 4: All these people are like, don't play Chador.

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Speaker 3: Are they take it?

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Speaker 2: Eat?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, We're not gonna cave the public

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Speaker 3: what's right. Yep, like it, thumbs up and checking every box.

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Speaker 3: That just seems like the Browns would have signed off

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Speaker 3: I think that lou is onto a little something but

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Speaker 3: took it too far. That's what I think. Where Shador

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Speaker 3: Chador is in a rough spot. Think about it. They've

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Speaker 3: got five quarterbacks in camp right now for the Browns.

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Speaker 3: They signed Tyler because Chaduur and Kenny Pickett, some of

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Speaker 3: couldn't believe it. The QB Tracker training camp on Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: August sixth, Flacco is eight for thirteen, Shaduur is four

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Speaker 4: I can't do it. I can't break down all these numbers.

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Speaker 3: But the point is Shaduur Sanders is not getting a

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Speaker 3: recognize that before we go any further. Now, when lou

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Speaker 3: it sound like that's what the organization wants. They want

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Speaker 3: as much seasoning as he should. Maybe they throw him

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Speaker 3: and he's gonna have to do something heroic to earn

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Speaker 3: him to fail. That's what Lewis Riddick is saying. I

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Speaker 3: don't agree with that at all. I think some organizations

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Speaker 3: some organizations are just dumb. The Browns are the poster

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Speaker 3: child for a dumb organization. They've done so many dumb

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Speaker 3: think that they want should or saying to fail. What's

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Speaker 3: the gain? How did they benefit from that? That just

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Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense to me. I don't see how

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Speaker 3: they've got this clunky situation where they have five quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: having fewer quarterbacks, with more reps and you get more seasoning, right,

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Speaker 3: more training, all it's training camp, right, and they don't

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Speaker 3: have that for Shaduer. But it doesn't mean they want

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Speaker 3: him to fail. You could look at many other organizations

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Speaker 3: is the Indianapolis Colts. Now I'll expand on this a

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Speaker 3: done with Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson threw fewer than four

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Speaker 3: That just comes along with the territory many times as

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Speaker 3: example Cowherd gave. But Baker Mayfield was in a rough spot.

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Speaker 3: would be amazing. No, of course not. So that's the thing, man,

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Speaker 3: I just don't think that the Browns, even though they're dumb,

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're crazy enough to be like, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I got an idea. Let's ruin Shadure Sanders, right,

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Speaker 3: Let's throw them in as the starter of a preseason

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Speaker 3: and man if he would just fail in front of millions,

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Speaker 3: it's only if you're on board, and it would be

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Speaker 3: a lot of legwork for me. Okay, but here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: We have differing views on Zach Allen. You call him

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Speaker 3: a star. I say he just doesn't have the notoriety

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Speaker 3: to be a star. Plays defensive line for the Broncos,

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Speaker 3: just got a contract extension. Eight and a half sacks

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Speaker 3: last season, He's productive. I just don't think he's a star.

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Speaker 3: So Koop and I disagreed last night. We won't rehash

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Speaker 3: the whole argument. But what I thought was if I

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Speaker 3: went just whatever on the strip here in Vegas and

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Speaker 3: did a little man on the scene, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Like you know the street reports if you will, jeez,

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious. If you're not up for it, that's fine.

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Speaker 3: But if I asked ten people like NFL fans. That's

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Speaker 3: the prerequisite.

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Speaker 7: Well, see, I mean that's that's how are you gonna

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Speaker 7: determine that?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you got to go by their word?

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's it can't just be this long, extensive quiz.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: I can already tell you that you're gonna it's that

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Speaker 7: they're not gonna know Zach Allen. Ten random people that

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Speaker 7: claim to be NFL fans on the the Las Vegas Strip.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm telling you.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Like even and I would say like, hey, man,

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Speaker 3: are you an NFL fan? Like really, you pay attention,

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Speaker 3: you love the NFL, you watch games every week like

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Speaker 3: you're legit. If they're like, oh yeah, absolutely, it's like,

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Speaker 3: all right, do you know which team Zach Allen plays for?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if any of the ten would get.

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Speaker 4: That, right.

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Speaker 7: I think they would if they if you asked that

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Speaker 7: prerequisite and they said yes, I would think that there

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Speaker 7: would be a number of the people out of ten

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Speaker 7: that would say that.

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Speaker 4: What number do you think it would be?

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Speaker 7: I don't know. I mean I think think they could.

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Speaker 7: Also there's a possibility they might say I don't know,

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Speaker 7: because he's just kind of recently on the Broncos the

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Speaker 7: last couple of years. Spent most of his career with

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Speaker 7: the Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they're gonna they're that deep in the game,

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be like, oh, the Cardinals, Zach Allen. You know,

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Speaker 3: as long as they prove in any way, shape or form,

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Speaker 3: who the hell this guy is, and that's good enough

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Speaker 3: for me. I don't need your current team if they're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Boston College, Oh Arizona Cardinals is great, fantastic, you win,

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't think they would even get that.

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Speaker 3: I really don't.

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Speaker 7: I think you'd have a few.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we do this when you're here in Vegas. Maybe

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Speaker 3: that's how we have a rock and good time. We

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Speaker 3: just go man on the street, you know, and we

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Speaker 3: ask about Zach Allen. I'm just curious, you know, I

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Speaker 3: really I feel strongly that most people would not know.

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Speaker 7: How about you go into the sports book and start

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Speaker 7: asking people.

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Speaker 3: I guarantee that that that's a spot where they might

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Speaker 3: know even less than random Honestly, yes, I completely believe that. Coop,

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Speaker 3: Like I do a show with Bill Krackenberger on Sundays,

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Speaker 3: It's Countdown presented by BETMGM and crack is amazing at

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Speaker 3: sports betting. He's made a ton of money over the years.

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Speaker 3: Very sharp guy. He's made a living. He literally makes

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Speaker 3: a living on sports betting. It blows. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how anybody makes a living off of sports betting. This

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Speaker 3: stuff is very tough to predict a lot of times,

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Speaker 3: especially NFL.

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Speaker 4: These lines.

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Speaker 3: Lines are fine tuned and sharpened, and it's hard to

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Speaker 3: find edges and value. He finds a way, and he

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Speaker 3: makes a living off this makes money every single year.

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Speaker 3: And he's said on the show before, he's like, I

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Speaker 3: don't think I could name fifteen starting quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 3: league right now. He's he has no chance to know

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Speaker 3: who Zach Allen is.

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Speaker 7: Well, so then he obviously just doesn't ever do prop bets.

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Speaker 3: He does prop bets all the time that how can

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Speaker 3: he not name fifteen quarterbacks?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: You have to you see their names. You're making the

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Speaker 7: bet on them.

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Speaker 4: I know, I don't know. I don't know, but I

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Speaker 4: don't know. I don't coop. I'm telling you, I believe it.

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Speaker 3: It might maybe not the quarterback thing, but if you

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Speaker 3: just said, hey, crack, name name twenty wide receivers currently

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Speaker 3: in the NFL, even though he bets on these dudes

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Speaker 3: all the time, I doubt just off the top of

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Speaker 3: his head, he just rattle stuff off.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Like a lot of these sharps, a lot of the pros,

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Speaker 3: the sports betters, like they look at the game from

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Speaker 3: a completely different angle, like maybe these like fantasy football players.

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Speaker 3: It's all on the offensive side of the ball ball

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Speaker 3: pretty much. Though they probably wouldn't know Zach Allen either.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone knows Zach Allen. That's the Vito.

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Speaker 4: No one knows. No one knows.

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Speaker 3: Maybe like a trainer, maybe a trainer for the Broncos

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Speaker 3: knows who Zach Allen is. I'm I'm not sure. I'm

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Speaker 3: not convinced of that, but uh, I think that's our

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Speaker 3: only hope.

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Speaker 7: Coop.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, the random people on the street, I

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Speaker 3: don't do.

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Speaker 4: The batting average would be low. Low.

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Speaker 3: Of the ten people, I'd be floored if two of

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Speaker 3: them got it right. Floored you you go like three four?

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Speaker 4: What do you think?

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Speaker 7: Like you see you said? If you're asking them, you

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Speaker 7: are You're into the NFL. That's the that's the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: You have to be like legit big fan, like I

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Speaker 3: pay attack I watch, you know, not just like oh

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Speaker 3: it's the Dallas. I always forget their neme.

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Speaker 4: It's like you're out. You're out.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to talk to you. You have to

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Speaker 3: know football, you have to watch, you have to love it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, we'll see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious though, curious what that would end up being like.

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Speaker 3: And and listen, it's not a knock very good player,

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Speaker 3: productive player. I just he's not He's not a name,

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Speaker 3: you know, just not known, no notoriety. That happens, happens in.

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Speaker 4: The end of it. We had the no name defense

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Speaker 4: with the Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: You know, just because you don't have no notoriety doesn't

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Speaker 3: mean you aren't incredibly productive. Like you could be very

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Speaker 3: productive and not have a name. By the way, I

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Speaker 3: saw a little interesting blurb here. I think it's from Yahoo.

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Speaker 3: They have a newsletter and this is an interesting trivia question.

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Speaker 3: So Kyron Williams with the Rams, they're running backs, just

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Speaker 3: got a contract extension three years, thirty three million dollars.

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Speaker 3: That's it, you know, Like this idea of Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 3: was amazing. Last season, Derrick Henry was awesome last season. Hey,

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Speaker 3: maybe the running back market now it's still in the

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Speaker 3: toilet comparatively speaking, you know, I think this was like

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Speaker 3: twenty three million. That's right, twenty three million dollars guaranteed.

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Speaker 3: And the trivia question is, like Kyron Williams has had

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Speaker 3: twenty six rushing touchdowns over the last two seasons. That's

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Speaker 3: a lot. He's tied for the fourth most in the league.

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Speaker 3: And so the question is, can you name the other

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Speaker 3: three players who have more rushing touchdowns over the last

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Speaker 3: two years than Kyron Williams. So when you start thinking

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Speaker 3: about this, I mean immediately I start thinking running backs.

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Speaker 4: Okay, like.

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Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley doesn't score a ton of rushing touchdowns, Derrick

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Speaker 3: Henry does. He's got to be on the list. And

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Speaker 3: then it gives a hint and it says two are quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Two of the three guys that have had more rushing

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Speaker 3: touchdowns than Kyron Williams over the last two years, they're.

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Speaker 7: Quarterbacks Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 3: There you go, that's the list right there, Coop. Jalen

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Speaker 3: Hurts has the most twenty nine. Then Derrick Henry with

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Speaker 3: twenty eight, Josh Allen with twenty seven, it's pretty wild,

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Speaker 3: and then Kyron Williams with twenty six. He's right there,

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Speaker 3: He's right there neck and neck with those guys.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, how amazing is that.

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Speaker 6: That?

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Speaker 3: Again, I don't want to rehash the whole Jalen Hurts argument,

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Speaker 3: where a lot of these what was it like the

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Speaker 3: dudes at sports books that come up with the lines

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Speaker 3: and all that, They asked those guys the book makers, Hey,

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Speaker 3: how many points against the spread are these quarterbacks really worth?

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Speaker 3: So the odds makers, twelve of them were asked this question,

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Speaker 3: and somehow Jalen Hurts ended up at six point three.

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Speaker 3: He's worth six point three points against the spread, whether

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Speaker 3: he's playing or the backup is playing. I just don't

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Speaker 3: buy that. Man. Like again, Josh Allen's got twenty seven

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Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns as well on top of all the passing touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: and they're separated hardly by anything. So Josh Allen is

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Speaker 3: that Let me see the list. Sorry I said I

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Speaker 3: wasn't gonna rehash this, and here I am rehash. Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen is at six point nine points against the spread.

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Speaker 3: That's what he's worth compared to a backup Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 3: is at six point three points against the spread. Really,

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts has two more rushing touchdowns than Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: does over the last two years, and Josh Allen I

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Speaker 3: have to look, but the amount of passing touchdowns that

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen has more than Jalen Hurts over the last

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Speaker 3: two years, and yet it's like point six difference points

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Speaker 3: against the spread between Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 4: That's outrageous. That's crazy talk right there.

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Speaker 3: No way, I don't buy that at all, but I

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Speaker 3: said I wouldn't rehash it, so I'm not going to Hey, Militia,

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Speaker 3: you're more than welcome to check in here.

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Speaker 4: Feel free to do so.

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Speaker 3: be high on this season, but man, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: could go south. I think that's the Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 3: So the news here on Wednesday. This was tweeted out

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Speaker 3: by Ian Rappaport. He just tweeted sources. Rams quarterback Matthew

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Speaker 3: Stafford is dealing with an aggravated disc and has received

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Speaker 3: an epidural to help him deal with it. Los Angeles

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Speaker 3: has called him week to week, being cautious, but with

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Speaker 3: plans for him to be ready for week one. A. Man,

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Speaker 3: I don't know this thing when we're talking about an

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Speaker 3: aggravated disc and it's a back issue, and this just

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Speaker 3: seems to be getting worse. The news just seems to

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Speaker 3: be getting progressively worse. Because at first the Rams were like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, we're gonna hold him out of training camp.

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Speaker 3: We're just being smart. He'll probably be back next week.

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Speaker 3: And then they were like, yeah, not next week either,

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Speaker 3: he'll be out that next week as well.

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Speaker 4: We're just we're just being smart, just being cautious.

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Speaker 3: And now the next thing you get is, oh, we're

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Speaker 3: talking aggravated disc epidural back issue. It's like, and this

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Speaker 3: is Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford is tough his nails, but

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Speaker 3: this dude has taking taken a freaking beating over the years,

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Speaker 3: and I just don't know that his body is gonna respond.

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Speaker 3: So if Matthew Stafford is not upright for seventeen games

648
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs or you know, maybe you know, maybe

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Speaker 3: they have their spot locked up and he sits the

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Speaker 3: last week, but the point is injury. If he's not

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Speaker 3: ready to go for I don't know. Let's say it's

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Speaker 3: a handful of games. Let's say it's somewhere between like

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Speaker 3: two to five six games this season, and you got

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Speaker 3: Jimmy G over there ish, Hey, I don't know, man,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: About that one.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, not to completely change the subject,

658
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Speaker 3: but isn't it funny how not that long ago Jimmy G.

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Speaker 3: He was brock Purty before Perty came along. Right in

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Speaker 3: terms of just being like the toast of the league,

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Speaker 3: Jimmy G just wins. There were Jimmy G defenders left

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Speaker 3: and right, and then he left the forty nine ers

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Speaker 3: left a really great supporting cast went to the Raiders

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Speaker 3: and wow, what do you know? He didn't produce hardly

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Speaker 3: at all. And now he's a backup. Now he's in

666
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: journeyman status where you're looking at it and you're like, man,

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Speaker 3: if Stafford gets hurt, you got a resort to Jimmy

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Speaker 3: g You it's like he's got cooties. We're back on

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Speaker 3: this on the playground as kids. You Jimmy g Oh.

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Speaker 3: They didn't take long for Jimmy g to you know,

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Speaker 3: come back to Earth. That supporting cast matters, It absolutely matters.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, don't think the same thing wouldn't happen

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Speaker 3: to Purty. That's all I'm saying right here is if

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Speaker 3: he goes to the Raiders leaves the Niners and he's

675
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Speaker 3: not he's not a difference maker with a supporting cast

676
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Speaker 3: that's not nearly as good. That's that's just the truth

677
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: about Purty. Nothing personal, But I would be I'd be

678
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 3: skeptical of the Rams. You know, I had high helps

679
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: for them coming into this season. I think they're a

680
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 3: really good team. I think the defense is getting better,

681
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 3: it's improving. It's a young defense. Jared Verse could be nasty.

682
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: I think they've got some playmakers over there, a little smaller,

683
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 3: little undersized, like they got punked by the Eagles every

684
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: time they played him. Saquon Barkley is just on these

685
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: joy rides to the end zone, you know, sixty seventy

686
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: yards no problem. But they picked up Poonaford right nose tackle,

687
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: trying to get a little more stout against the rush

688
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 3: and if healthy. I like what they have here when

689
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 3: you've got Puka Nakua, DeVante Adams there, Tyler Higbee has

690
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 3: been productive, Kyron Williams running the ball. Matthew Stafford's still

691
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 3: a good quarterback. The question isn't about production. I think

692
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Speaker 3: it's mostly about health. Maybe he's dealing with back issues

693
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: and epidurals already.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if that's gonna be a good

696
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 3: situation this season. Something to keep in mind while you're

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00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 3: getting your season win total bets in there. By the way,

698
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 3: shout out to Craig. He hit me up on X

699
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 3: and just said some nice things like glad you're in tonight.

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Speaker 3: He's looking forward to the Seahawks season and looking forward

701
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: to darn Old, Cooper, Cup, Bobo, all those guys. So

702
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: he's fired up for it. It's funny because I almost

703
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 3: turned this into a who am I in honor of

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Speaker 3: big Ben Mallard, Right, It's what he does around this

705
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: time every show. I couldn't quite figure out how to

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00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: do it, and I thought it was forced, and so

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah and ask screw it, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 3: do that. But you ever go on Pro Football Reference

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Speaker 3: and I love the website, and they'll just have the

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00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 3: left corner they'll have like twelve pictures, twelve head shots

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Speaker 3: of random NFL players, and I love doing that. You know,

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Speaker 3: each day I'll try to guess as many of the

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Speaker 3: head shots as possible, Like how many of these dudes

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Speaker 3: can I actually name? Like one I can tell today

715
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 3: is Kyle Yueschek, for sure. But of these twelve, I

716
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,959
Speaker 3: might get two, maybe three. It looks like Jerrod Mayo.

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Speaker 4: I'm not cheating.

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Speaker 3: You can scroll over it and see the names, you know,

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Speaker 3: just leave the cursor there so I can get two.

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Speaker 3: I don't know they know any more of these. But

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Speaker 3: the point is a couple of days ago I did

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Speaker 3: the same thing and it was the old Seahawks receiver

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Speaker 3: Ricardo Lockett.

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Speaker 4: And I've never.

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Speaker 3: Done this before, but I was just looking at his

726
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Speaker 3: stats and it blew my mind. So you might remember

727
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Speaker 3: Ricardo Lockett where in the Super Bowl between the Seahawks

728
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Speaker 3: and the Patriots when they didn't give the ball the

729
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 3: Beast mode and the Patriots won. Right like that Super Bowl,

730
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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson was throwing to his number three, number four

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Speaker 3: receivers like Chris Matthews had a day he had four

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Speaker 3: catches for one oh nine in a touchdown. Ricardo Lockett

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Speaker 3: had three catches for fifty nine yards. And I never

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Speaker 3: looked at their career numbers. It stunned me. Now, I

735
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Speaker 3: know these are like three and four receivers, but I

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Speaker 3: didn't know they did only this, like over four seasons.

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Speaker 3: Ricardo Lockett he had twenty two catches in his NFL career.

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Speaker 3: Chris Matthews had sixteen catches over three seasons. That's it crazy.

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Speaker 3: Are we get to buying or selling training camp pipe