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Speaker 1: At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williams and talk for us Matt, So people, there's

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Speaker 2: some people out there who still think our voices sounded.

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Speaker 3: Like I don't get that at all. But I don't

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Speaker 3: go back and listen to our shows either, because there's

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Speaker 3: nothing really for me to learn by something we have already.

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Speaker 2: Experienced, already talked about it. No one's ever brought it

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Speaker 2: up to me pre YouTube. Yes, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like, boy, I'm listening to your guys podcast,

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Speaker 3: I don't know who's who. Yeah, I've never gotten that.

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Speaker 3: If you have, let us know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyways, it is now time for the Fantasy Football

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Speaker 2: Focus and it's a Thursday, so we'll go ahead and

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Speaker 2: take a look at the practice reports. Who's in, who's out?

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Speaker 2: In the big news today, Matt, Well, there's a couple

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Speaker 2: of things, but this is the first one. George Kittle

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Speaker 2: did not practice today. It's a hamstring. He wasn't on

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Speaker 2: yesterday's injury report, So this is a new injury for him.

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Speaker 3: Huge because considering the state of the tight end position

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Speaker 2: Real let alone is state forty nine ers, right.

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Speaker 3: I'm just thinking fantasy for the segment. But this looked

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Speaker 3: like a great start. You know, you're getting the rams.

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Speaker 3: You already have McCaffrey and Debo out, and we know

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Speaker 3: in that system, when you missed one guy, everybody else flourishes,

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Speaker 3: you know, like IUX numbers are great when Debo's out

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Speaker 3: and vice versa. Kittle excels when one of them are

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Speaker 3: out to Like this lined up great for him, and

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Speaker 3: who knows. I mean, we got a couple of days yet,

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Speaker 3: but it kind of has that Aj Brown feel about

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Speaker 3: it where it wasn't there on Wednesday, but it was

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Speaker 3: there on Thursdays. You just do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not good.

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Speaker 3: Not good. And that team is getting hit, parted by injuries,

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Speaker 3: entering crush you know fantasy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, getting crushed. Tyler Aljaer has a hip injury. He

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Speaker 2: practiced in full on Thursday. Should be fine. Jeans still

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Speaker 2: getting the big workload with them. The big game for

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Speaker 2: the Falcons this week against the Chiefs at home. Real big,

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Speaker 2: I mean I think the Falcons could hang around in

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Speaker 2: that game. Yeah, I think I will pick them with

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Speaker 2: the points. Yeah, it's like a running dog at home.

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Speaker 2: I'll have the running dog. I don't know what chief

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Speaker 2: fan contingency will be, like. I'm sure they'll travel well,

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Speaker 2: you know, not probably strong as Steelers, but something like that.

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Speaker 2: I like what Landa did him Monday night though.

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Speaker 2: Short week for them though, absolutely. As I mentioned, there

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Speaker 2: was a more big news. Jordan Love with the Packers

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Speaker 2: got in a limited practice today.

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Speaker 3: Nice first step.

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Speaker 2: It's a good first step.

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Speaker 2: He's dealing with the sprained MCL on his knee. That's

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he plays this week. They had

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Speaker 2: the Titans this week, I would think it's the flame

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. It's like, you

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Speaker 3: could probably beat the Titans without them, you could. I mean,

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Speaker 2: He doesn't mean you will. It doesn't mean he's in Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: In Tennessee and you would think by next week he's

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. If you get one win out of it in

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Speaker 2: Keenan Allen again today for the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 3: Not the youngest guy. Yeah, I mean it might not

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Speaker 2: Right, He's a guy that's it's more based on, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. We mentioned no Josh Palmer in practice today

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Speaker 3: If Porter's going to follow Johnston, I have no interest

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Speaker 3: said and done. Yeah, certainly possible. Yeah still, I mean

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Speaker 3: not bad. I don't love it for this week, you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that either one is going to catch

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Speaker 2: This week, a couple of defensive guys out of practice.

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Speaker 2: Cole Hamilton with a back it's huge, Nate Wiggins with

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Speaker 2: this week. Yeah. Yeah, and they're already hemorrhaging yards on

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Speaker 3: A lot of issues. Hamilton would be monstrous. Might be

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Speaker 3: better for Ferguson. Remember he was fighting Andrew or something too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it just does a lot of stuff for them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: At disguising stuff and that defense, at least last year

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So mentioned that Jake Ferguson did practice stay for

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Speaker 2: the Ravens would be going three. I think they could

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm leaning that way. I think it's like a

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Speaker 3: Are they not surprised by that? Dallas got pretty beat up.

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Speaker 3: I mean they got whipped last week.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens lost at home to the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: True, they both lost. Yeah, I think I'll take.

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Speaker 2: Dallas Tank Bigsby back at practice. Uh, he's dealing with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, is because he's looked good, all the reports have

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Speaker 2: On the other side of that, though, Evan Ingram head

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Speaker 2: That's a Monday night game too, so you better have

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Speaker 2: an option ready to go. And it doesn't look like

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Speaker 2: Evan Ingram. You you'll have to wait until Saturday's injury declarations.

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Speaker 3: But then you got to make your mind up.

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Speaker 2: You got to make your mind up. And if he's

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Speaker 2: questionable he did miss practice today, I'd probably have somebody

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Speaker 3: You have to, and he's not so great that you

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Speaker 3: would plan on not using Ingram. Their passing game is

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Speaker 3: Then Ian Thomas might end up being the one.

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Speaker 2: They're not using Kristian Kirk at all.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna say Kirk, I only he's like falling out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had somebody offer me like Kirk and somebody no,

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Speaker 2: I don't want. I'm not interested right now, right only

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Speaker 2: anything to do with that passing game. Thomas looks good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, but is he a one at this point?

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Speaker 2: T Higgins back to practice today for the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: They play with Washington this week. I guess you put

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Speaker 2: him right back in the lineup, right. You have to, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you have to. That's a terrible defense. Terrible, Yeah, terrible.

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Speaker 2: U Joe Mixon did not practice today.

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Speaker 3: Looks like it could be Acres.

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Speaker 2: Damian Pierce did not practice today. Okay, so yeah, it

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Speaker 2: does look like Acres. And if he's available in your

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Speaker 3: I grabbed him in our league. Yeah, I probably. I

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Speaker 3: think you start him, Yeah, I mean absolutely. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he fumbled last week and they pulled him. But he

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Speaker 3: of good reports. He doesn't play special team, so that

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Speaker 3: hurts some stuff, you know, when there's three available. But

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Speaker 3: he would be the guy on a really good offense.

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Speaker 3: That's a top twenty you know ranked running back going.

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Speaker 3: He isn't gona have to be good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yeah. Nego Collins return to practice. He did

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Speaker 2: He is expected to play against the Vikings, but.

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Speaker 3: He's been phenomenal. Yeah, I mean he's needless to say.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you put him in your lineup no matter

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Speaker 3: what if he's playing, but he'd be a big loss.

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Speaker 3: I think Tank Dell is one of my favorite bilos though. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean he's been He's the guy that's kind of

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Speaker 3: right and I think he's somebody you should put offers

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Speaker 2: Yeah, lurking there, uh ceedee. Lamb limited on Thursday, dealing

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Speaker 2: with an ankle, but they're not concerned. Yeah, they're not

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Speaker 2: concerned about him missing the game again. They need to

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Speaker 2: bounce back effort. They don't have anybody.

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Speaker 3: Else, No, they don't.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Tolbert and yeah yeah, and Brandon Cooks is okay,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, but I don't much to add to that.

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Speaker 3: You and play Lamb.

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Speaker 2: With the quarterback change in Carolina, Deontay Johnson and out

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Speaker 2: of the Feeland, I've kind of been ignored early in

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Speaker 2: this season. Do you have any interest in either of

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Speaker 3: I'm sure many listeners and you know, drafted Johnson with

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Speaker 3: the thought of he's my flex or he's my wide

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Speaker 3: receiver three, or I'm going to start him more often

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Speaker 3: than not. I think you get back to that at least,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, no one cut him after two weeks,

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Speaker 3: they did pick him up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: I still think he's probably likely to disappoint and not

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Speaker 3: hit his fantasy day draft status when the season's over. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I'm a lot happier starting him now than yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, in the back, I mean they're thrown for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and not getting nothing down the field, Like they

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Speaker 2: Seattle is going to be a tough place to play.

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Speaker 2: Looking at tonight's game, I'm gonna give you some price

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Speaker 3: Lineeah, it's not a star studded group.

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Speaker 2: But if you're looking at the captain's chair tonight, Brees

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Speaker 3: Hall's a better player, but I bet Stevenson now touches him,

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Speaker 3: probably with Alan, you know that would be smart to me.

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Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson is fifteen to three. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers is

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Speaker 3: to him for fantasy, just because who else is going

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Speaker 2: Mike Williams is ninety three hundred and.

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Speaker 2: The usage last week was he I think he ran

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I have any interest in anybody else.

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Speaker 2: Maybe would you play the Jets defense in the captain's share,

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Speaker 2: it's eighty one hundred.

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Speaker 3: I was leading towards Henry. But it's not bad. I

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think it would be a really low scoring game.

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Speaker 2: But Wi Stevenson, Wilson, that may be it. Rogers.

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Speaker 3: I bet I come with fifteen quarterbacks. I start over run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but in a single game setting, Yeah, I want

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Speaker 2: Braylan Allen is fifty two hundred.

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Speaker 3: he looks really good. Stevenson surprises me. I mean I

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Speaker 2: Where the point's gonna come from.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, point's gonna come. But he's been seeded expectations.

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Speaker 3: That's the deal. I mean with running back in general.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they put out more tape and.

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Speaker 3: up and that probably doesn't help. Yeah, probably, And Stevenson's

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Speaker 2: Another sneaky start in that game would be Antonio Gibson

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Speaker 3: He's done good things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that's pretty cheap. Yeah, but that's some

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Speaker 3: Big game Jets. I think the spreads like six and

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Speaker 3: It might take points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it might take points, but the Jets are at home.

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Speaker 2: They should win that. They should win that game. Their

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Speaker 2: Uh, Matt, it's time to look at the Quarterback Index

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Speaker 3: I guess Miami's gotta be thirty two, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the quarterback Index.

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young bad.

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00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,880
Speaker 2: Because there is I take Daniel Jones, Yeah, I'd much

439
00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 2: Berat to play against Levis, Yeah, much because he's gonna

440
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,600
Speaker 2: throw you one handed to you or do something dumb

441
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 2: At twenty six is justin Fields? Is that too hard

442
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 2: on Justin Field? Like Justin Field should not based on

443
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,200
Speaker 2: the way he has played. And I'm not saying he's

444
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 2: been great, right, but he's way better than the guys

445
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,159
Speaker 2: below him on this list.

446
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially if you count the things that didn't count,

447
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,720
Speaker 3: you know, if you watch the tape.

448
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you actually if you're not just looking at

449
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 2: the stats, right, what happened in the games, right, and like.

450
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 3: How he actually played you know some start to finish

451
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 3: was better than that for sure. And not put ball

452
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 3: in Harm's way. I mean, that's an important component here.

453
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got a ninety four point six passer

454
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,360
Speaker 2: rating or something, I mean accuracy up. These other guys

455
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 2: aren't even close to that. They're not asking him to

456
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 2: do a lot of heavy lifting. But again, to your point,

457
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 2: if some of those pass plays that had gotten wiped

458
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 2: out weren't.

459
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 3: Right, he's like he should be ahead of Richardson, Oh god, yes,

460
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, who's probably it was definitely

461
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 3: above him. Yeah. The only when we'll get to him.

462
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 2: He should be ahead of the guy who's right ahead

463
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 2: of him right now, and that's to Sean Watson.

464
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 3: Yes, that's another great kidding me I And Watson wasn't

465
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: horrible this week, but he's been horrible ever since, and

466
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 3: he wasn't good.

467
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 2: It wasn't horrible. Is the best that you can say?

468
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 3: That's right, right?

469
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean that you he bumped him up three spots ahead.

470
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,479
Speaker 3: Of Fields because they won.

471
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,639
Speaker 2: Because they won well, Fields is too And oh.

472
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 3: I guess that's a good point, Like what are we

473
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: doing here? Watson's bad?

474
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,400
Speaker 2: Uh? At twenty four down a spot is Jacoby Brissett.

475
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 3: I guess that's fine. Here's the thing always.

476
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 2: Were set this year, and I understand he's working with

477
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 2: a very limited offense in terms of skill position players.

478
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 2: They're not asking him to throw the ball a lot

479
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: down the field. And he's only completing fifty eight point

480
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 2: eight percent of his passes. So you're you're not throwing

481
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: the ball. You don't have a high a dot. He's

482
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 2: only arising five point three yards per attempt.

483
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 3: So what are you doing for it?

484
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: He's only he's only completing fifty nine percent of his passes.

485
00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 2: It should be much higher than that.

486
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 3: Should I don't know if he should be lower or higher,

487
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 3: but I would take I'd rather play against him than fields. Yeah,

488
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: I might rather play against him and like Richardson, just

489
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 3: because Brissette doesn't give you any of his legs either.

490
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 2: He doesn't. He's got thirty eight rushing yards this year.

491
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not terrible, but he's no, he's not. Oh,

492
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 2: we got to be watching out for this guy.

493
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 3: I remember, all right, he might he's never gonna run for.

494
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 2: Eighty Yeah, at twenty three down three spots. As Richardson,

495
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 2: he's completing forty nine percent of his passes. I'm sorry

496
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 2: he should be right now, he is a fantasy darling

497
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 2: and nothing else.

498
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 3: He's right with Caleb Williams. They're almost like identical stuff.

499
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: The problem is is he's only run for ninety three yards, Like,

500
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 2: he's not producing anything anything close to what anybody would

501
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:47,239
Speaker 2: be happy with.

502
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 3: And the big problem too this past week was Green

503
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: Bay had like forty two minutes of time possession just

504
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 3: because coltsd is getting gashed and.

505
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: Just he's not I'm going to lead you back kind

506
00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 2: of guy.

507
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 3: No, right, they need to win the time of possession

508
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 3: run the ball, Taylor richardson, good offensive line, dunk it

509
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 3: down the downs. Well, if your defense can't stop the

510
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 3: run at all, you're not gonna win many games at that.

511
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: For a minute, the game next week for the Steelers

512
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: with the culture and bad Forrest Buckner went on, ir

513
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: they can't stop the run at all?

514
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 3: Do they play this week?

515
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 2: Chicago? I think they do.

516
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 3: They do. The two quarterbacks are playing very similarly. Yuck.

517
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, should not be that high. No, at twenty two

518
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: up three spots, Gardner Minshew deserve it. He's completing seventy

519
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 2: seven his passes. I mean, the one thing you can

520
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 2: always say about Gardner Minshew he's not great, No, but

521
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 2: he knows where's bread's buttered at.

522
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean they defensive minded head coach, we're

523
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 3: gonna run the ball. No, we're gonna throw at the

524
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: Bowers and Adams because we have bad running backs and

525
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 3: we have two good pass catchers. You know, that's what

526
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 3: they're gonna do all year. And absolutely he's gonna put

527
00:23:58,560 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 3: up good numbers.

528
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, he will force feed those guys in football. And

529
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: if you're gonna double cover one of those guys, okay,

530
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 2: I'll just throw it to this guy. Yeah, yeah, you

531
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 2: know you can't double them both. Yeah, Michael Pittman would

532
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: love to have Gardner Minshew back in Indianapolis absolutely. Twenty

533
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: one Jaden Daniels.

534
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: Seems too high.

535
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 2: He's completing seventy five point five percent of his passes. Now,

536
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: none of them I said, not much yardage though, Yeah,

537
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,479
Speaker 2: none of them have been to McLaurin. McLaurin right. I mean,

538
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: he's definitely my number one rookie. Yeah, but he hasn't

539
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: trown a touchdown. He hadn't thurn an interception. He's also

540
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: fumbled three times. I would say, similar to fields with

541
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: more turnovers.

542
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, what's the difference in him and fields this year?

543
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 2: I don't know that right now. He's real difficult to

544
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 2: play against.

545
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 3: No, and his running is good, but I think it's

546
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 3: a little overrated. It's it's good, it's not special to me.

547
00:24:53,200 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. At twenty down five spots, Trevor Lawrence, it's

548
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 2: been a problem. Fifty one completion percentage. It's three hundred

549
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: and eighty two passing yards in two games. He hasn't

550
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: turned the ball. Oh, he hasn't had an interception yet.

551
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 2: But he's not doing anything to carry that team.

552
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: No, and the film's not pretty right now either. It's

553
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: time to be worried.

554
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's shocked by that can't miss prospect.

555
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, I've been a Lawrence apologist.

556
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 2: It's hard to be that now it.

557
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 3: I mean, this year is not helping my cause at all.

558
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 2: At nineteen down a spot justin Herbert. Oh, that's too harsh.

559
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: I mean he's not doing much. He's not doing much

560
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: at all.

561
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: And I like Mahomes did doing last week when I

562
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 3: put them at fifteen.

563
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I have to see who's ahead of him here,

564
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: right ahead of him. But again I watched that game

565
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: on It would sat a line of Panthers and he

566
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: did not throw the ball.

567
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, they don't beat the Chiefs with that

568
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 3: at No, you know what I mean, Like, they don't.

569
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: Beat if he plays the same way that he played

570
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 2: against Carolina, they don't beat the Steelers on Sunday.

571
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 3: Right, you'll you'll take that pformants all day long Fromve.

572
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: He's averaging six yards per past attempt. We talk about

573
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: fields and we know Steeler fans, no Fields has not

574
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: been real aggressive throwing the ball down the field. Right,

575
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: He's had a couple again wiped out. He's averaging six

576
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: point three yards per attempt right now, Herbert's averaging six.

577
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 3: Yeah. In a way, I think that's good coaching, Like

578
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: we don't need to put the ball on Harm's away

579
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: with no chance to lose against Carolina unless you throw

580
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: three picks.

581
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: But he threw an atrocious pick against Carolina.

582
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

583
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's missed some layup stuff too. Yeah.

584
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 3: I do wonder if he's not right, But I mean

585
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 3: he's a better player than that.

586
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no doubt. I'm not saying that right at

587
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: eighteen down eleven spots to a Tago vi looa.

588
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: He should either be where he was. Well, I guess

589
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 3: he was bad in that. Yeah, okay, they're just judging

590
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 3: his performance.

591
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: That one interception he threw was oh my god, what

592
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: are you doing?

593
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I kind of forgot about not how bad

594
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: the team was, but how bad he would play. Yeah,

595
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: because of the injury, he didn't get Tyreek the ball.

596
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 2: He didn't get one. It was a sloppy And that

597
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: was again one of these games the Bills played a

598
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: lot too high safety and just said, okay, yeah, we're

599
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: going to give you the deep stuff.

600
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 3: Now they were real aggressive attacking.

601
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, cause they could get there with and they could

602
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: get there with their four man rush.

603
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: What number do you say he's a eighteen even on

604
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: his best day, he's fourteen or fifteen to me, Yeah,

605
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 3: it was.

606
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: Probably he was too high to begin with.

607
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: They had him.

608
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: He dropped eleven spots.

609
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 3: Like, I don't think he contends for a top ten. No,

610
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 3: even on his best day.

611
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: It's seventeen down a spot. Is Aaron Rodgers who knows?

612
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: It's kind of how he's playing.

613
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 3: It's kind of how he's playing. Excited to see him tonight.

614
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: I mean it's the rust off of quotes or is

615
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: he just okay?

616
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: Now? Is he if he's seventeen at the end of

617
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: the season, did the Jets contend I don't think so.

618
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: No, And I think he retires. Yeah, And if he

619
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 3: realizes he's seventeen, he still throws the ball really well. Yeah.

620
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: You know he's complating sixty percent, sixty point eight percent

621
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 2: of his passes right now. It's not typical Aaron Rodgers.

622
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: Good he's not throwing to the backs as much either.

623
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 3: I didn't thought of that, but you're right. Esa needs

624
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,239
Speaker 3: to catch a little balls.

625
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: At sixteen, up eight spots. Kirk Cousins.

626
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 3: Rebounded well, yeah, and that's why he's up eight spots

627
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: this week. One was bad. That's who he is. Yeah, okay,

628
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 3: I got no problem with that. I'd have him over

629
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: Rodgers right this minute, I think so. Yeah, Yeah, definitely

630
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 3: over two.

631
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: At fifteen, up six spots. Sam Darnold, he's segeless because

632
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: his passes.

633
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 3: He's really playing well.

634
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I immediately was going to say.

635
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 3: Wow, damn Darnold over Rogers. What we talked about here. Yeah, Like,

636
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: but if you're judging how he's playing, you know, and

637
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: if it was me making that list, that's probably where

638
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: i'd have him. Yeah.

639
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: You know again though, he's another guy that knows, Hey,

640
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: I got I got Justin Jefferson. I got to get

641
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson the ball. Oh yeah, yeah, you know.

642
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: I mean he doesn't deal with pressure well still, but

643
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: getting it out of his hands, and he's being smart

644
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: with it and not making the crazy stuff.

645
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: I mean there's a.

646
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 3: Little bit of that.

647
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: He's still a little turnover. Yeah, they're still Yeah, that

648
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: could turn into a pumpkin. Yeah, but I bet he

649
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: isn't the reason there five or six win team do

650
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: they Well, they're not going to roll with him. I

651
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: bet he's a starter in opening day. And I was

652
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: going to ask you he's starting for somebody next year?

653
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so on opening day as a choice.

654
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: I mean they might be a draft pick involved, but

655
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 3: you know, right, I bet it's a better situation for

656
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: him than it was this year. Yeah, the pick and right? Yeah, yeah,

657
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: so young.

658
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: At fourteen down four spots, Jared Goff didn't play well.

659
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 3: Didn't play well, but it's probably a blip. He's pretty solid.

660
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: Thirteen down a spot, Jalen Hurts.

661
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: Been sort of. He's running a lot better than he

662
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: did last year and more and more.

663
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: That's fine.

664
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

665
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: Uh. Twelve down three spots. Matthew Stafford is who he is. Right.

666
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: If you're just gonna take things away from him, it's

667
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: gonna look worse. Yeah, I mean Week.

668
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: One, the offensive line is a mess.

669
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: Week one, he kept him in the game in Detroit. Yeah,

670
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: single handedly. I might even have him higher, but the

671
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: results aren't great.

672
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 2: No. At eleven down three spots, Brock Purty.

673
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: It wasn't a great performance by him either.

674
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: This is the thing with Purty when they don't have

675
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: all the weapons.

676
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: I'm curious this week if Kittle doesn't play even against

677
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: a team like the Rams.

678
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when it's not all perfect for him, this

679
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: is who he is. He's just a guy.

680
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: I think he's a good starter in that situation. He's

681
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 3: not the efficient machine you know that he is when

682
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: they is five.

683
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: Guys feld, you know he's processing it and getting the

684
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: ball to the open guy. He's not an elevator.

685
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 3: No, he's not an elevator. That's a good way of

686
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: putting it.

687
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: This guy is at ten up a spot Joe Burrow.

688
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he is. I don't think he's played well either.

689
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

690
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: I mean last week was better than week one, and

691
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 3: I think the hand stuff is starting to go away.

692
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: But I don't think he's been as sharp.

693
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if the hand stuff is. And here's why, man.

694
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: I didn't see as much in week two.

695
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: He's already fumbled three times this year. As it really

696
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: makes me wonder that grip people are talking about with

697
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: him trying to pick up the bottle. I wonder if

698
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 2: that grip is just not where it should be right now,

699
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: and he doesn't hold the ball in the pocket.

700
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: I wonder they should. I'd like to look at the

701
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: three fumbles. Is that him holding it in one hand

702
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: that gets blasted out that anyone wouldn't be able to

703
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: hold it or is it just kind of fumbling around

704
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: right now?

705
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: I don't trouble with a snap that kind of I

706
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: don't think he's been super sharp though. No, he's only

707
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: averaging six point five yards per teen.

708
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: They need to get chased involved. Washington might help this week.

709
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that won't help everybody.

710
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good remedy.

711
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: At nine up ten spots. Gino Smith good.

712
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: I'm really starting to buy into him. I was highly

713
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: skeptical for the first couple of years. A starter. He

714
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: is aggressive, he's a really good passer of the football,

715
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: got great weapons, great weapons. I think this offensive system

716
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: helps him even more than last one. He's a good player.

717
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: At eight up nine spots, this is going to be

718
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: as high as he goes Derek Carr, Yes.

719
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: He's playing really, really well. No one on the planet

720
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: besides the car family noticed, but the last.

721
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: Three or four brothers gonna listen to his number. One

722
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: of the.

723
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: Last three or four games of last season. Though, he

724
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: was really good then too, and this system has greatly

725
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: helped him. But that's his ceiling. Yeah, I mean, do

726
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: we really think he's better than Matthew Stafford, Joe Burrow? Right, right, right,

727
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: come on, No, but he's playing better than anyone.

728
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: At seven up seven spots.

729
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray playing really well too, playing well, yeah, orchestrating

730
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: a good offense, hard to play against, good d passer.

731
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: I'm fine with that.

732
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: At six, holding Steady Baker Mayfield, I can't put him.

733
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: My hand and say, yeah, I mean, cars playing better

734
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 3: than Mayfield. And they're both to me on the same

735
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: quarterback tier. They're both Tier three guys. Yeah, maybe knocking

736
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: on the door on tier two if things go well,

737
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: that's a little rich.

738
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: Number five hasn't played a real good year though. Yeah,

739
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: I'm not taking away for Number five is a guy.

740
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't think he's played his best football yet, and

741
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: obviously didn't last week. He's unmoved by this year in

742
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: this one. Dak Prescott agreed. I mean, that's more, Okay,

743
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: this year, that's more. Here's his resume. We're gonna put

744
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: him at it than it is. How he's playing right now,

745
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: and how he's ranked these quarterbacks. He's been harder on

746
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: those guys. Yeah, you know, Stafford. I mean, like he

747
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: didn't ding Dak.

748
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: As much as he did some of those other guys.

749
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: He has not been a liability by any stretch of

750
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: the imagination. But I don't know that he should hold steady.

751
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: At four down a spot. Oh he dang this guy,

752
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: Josh Allen.

753
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: I can't imagine him not being in the top three.

754
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: I mean he didn't throw the ball much last week,

755
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: but he didn't need to. He's completing seventy four percent

756
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: of his passes. People don't understand how accurate he is

757
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: in all levels because he wasn't when he came in

758
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 3: the league.

759
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: At three up a spot.

760
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 3: C J.

761
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: Stroud m.

762
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: Harder than I. Yeah, hard to.

763
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: He's good.

764
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: He's a really good football player. At two is Lamar.

765
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: Lamar's not played well, No, he's not. I mean he's

766
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: a great player. Yeah, I mean so it was Burrow.

767
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 3: You know I would have Alan too.

768
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have Alan. I got Stroud ahead of

769
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 2: him right now right now.

770
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean they're figuring things out collectively, but he

771
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: hasn't been great. Week one he kept them alive, but.

772
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: Again he was part of them blowing that lead lesson Yeah,

773
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: and then one is Patrick Mahomes, sure who it doesn't

774
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: great either. It doesn't matter what he does. He's going

775
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: to be number one no matter what. Yeah, I mean

776
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: he'd be one for me.

777
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: He'd have to do a lot for me. Like I

778
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: don't even I forget who you said wrote this. I

779
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 3: mean I don't think these people were saying it's Nick Shook. Yeah,

780
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: but Baker Mayfield is better than Burrow, you know, like

781
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: who am I picking for my team for my franchise.

782
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of recency bias here, but not

783
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 3: enough to say Mahomes be twelve, you know because he

784
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 3: had a bad game or was an awesome one game.

785
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were talking about CJ. Stroud off the air

786
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: after we had our discussion about the young quarterbacks and

787
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: the one thing that he did in college that made

788
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: me really kind of like him more so than some

789
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: of the other guys. And people talk about he's not mobile,

790
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: he doesn't run. He can run, yeah, but in college

791
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: he went through his progressions yep, and was able to

792
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 2: do that. Now, Jayden Daniels did that. Was the guy

793
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: in this year's draft who did that as well. And

794
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: he's completing a higher percentage of his passes than yeah,

795
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: the other guys.

796
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 3: Bryce Young was actually really good at it at Bama too,

797
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 3: but his guys were always open. I mean Stroud wasn't

798
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 3: throwing the junk either. That's true, right, But no, he's

799
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 3: a processor. He's any era quarterback a lot of Burrows.

800
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 3: I think he has a lot of similarities to Burrow,

801
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: but I think he's a better passer of the football

802
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 3: than Burrow. Yeah, I mean they're both good, not special athletes,

803
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: but they can run when they need to.

804
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: Stroud's probably has a better arm too. I think he's

805
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 2: a better passer of the football period.

806
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean Burrow is a microprocessor, but on his

807
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: best days. We haven't seen him much this year. Stroud's

808
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: not that far off, especially for his age. Yeah, he's

809
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 3: really really good.

810
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, But that's Nick Schuk's Quarterback Index rankings. I

811
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 2: think justin Field should be a little bit higher than

812
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 2: what he is, but I agree, I'm not gonna quibble

813
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: with it.

814
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: Considering the guys that are above them, there's two or

815
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 3: three of the EH again Richardson and a couple of

816
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 3: guys that are similar.

817
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: When Russell Wilson returns, where do you think he falls

818
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: into this group?

819
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: Well, Shook is going to see a game, and like

820
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 3: if they announced Wilson as a starter, he won't be

821
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 3: on there beforehand, right, So I don't know. I mean,

822
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: like Miami. That's why I thought Miami would be last,

823
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 3: because I didn't think two would be on there. Yeah,

824
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, or Dalton would be instead

825
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 3: of Young just based on what we saw last year

826
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: in Denver. I mean, he's gonna below Cousins Rogers. Trying

827
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: to think of what the list was, like.

828
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: His cousins Rogers at seventeen, I mean he was at eighteen. Well,

829
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 2: two is not going to be at eighteen, right, Herbert

830
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: was at nineteen, So I'm guessing it'd be Trevor Lawrence

831
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: was at twenty.

832
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: I bet he'd be twenty twenty one in that neighborhood

833
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: if you had to stick him in there right now,

834
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: just knowing what you know about him without seeing one snap,

835
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 3: I mean, he's ahead of like the levices of the world.

836
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. You know those type of dudes figuring

837
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: it out guys. And here's the thing about Nick Schook

838
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: that people need to know. Nick Shook is a and

839
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 2: he says he's on the air on NFL dot Com.

840
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: He's a Bears fan, admitted, so he's gonna be a

841
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 2: little harder on Justin Fields.

842
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 3: And oh, I thought you're thinking about Kayleb Williams. Yeah,

843
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: well that makes sense too. He's right, Mattetfields makes sense.

844
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get through a break. He is Matt Williamson.

845
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

846
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I'll be back

847
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: to finish up the show right after this.

848
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

849
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

850
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

851
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: And we are back on Dale LOLLI. He is the

852
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt just to finish up the show here,

853
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: there are nine unbeaten teams, okay, going into week three,

854
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: it's Buffalo, Houston, Kansas City, the Chargers, the Steelers, Vikings, Saints,

855
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: Seahawks and Buccaneers. Of those teams, who are the who

856
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: are the real contenders here? Who are the teams that

857
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: you believe this is actually who they are? And who

858
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: are the who are the I'm not gonna say frauds,

859
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 2: but who are the teams that you look, can you.

860
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: List them again, I'll say yes or no. Buffalo contender,

861
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 3: but not super Bowl contender. Okay, I mean like division winner,

862
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: win a game, beat a wild card team, but I

863
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: can't see it being their year.

864
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: Okay, Houston super Bowl contender, Okay, I'm there on them.

865
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: Kansas City, Yeah, obviously the Chargers fraud the Steelers. Let's

866
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: save them for last, all right, let's save them for last.

867
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: The Vikings not a fraud successful year playoff contender in

868
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: the NFC, that's yeah. Yeah, And in the NFC it

869
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: might be hard to get in the AFC, now it

870
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: might be. I mean you look, there's more playoff off

871
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: contenders right the second in the NFC than the AFC,

872
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: which I'm shocked about. The Saints the same, but a

873
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 2: little bit better.

874
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean I think they can win a playoff

875
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: game in the right matchup and win ten games.

876
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: There was a better chance of winning their division. I

877
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: think the Minnesota does.

878
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's hold off of that.

879
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 2: The Seahawks.

880
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 3: Kind of like the Vikings in that highly successful season,

881
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: maybe a.

882
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: Year ahead of where you thought they were.

883
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll kick your coverage. Your timeline looks really rosy.

884
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 3: Like I could see him sort of like Houston last year.

885
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: I could see him winning Coach of the Year this

886
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 2: year because nobody had any expectations. The Seahawks win ten

887
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: maybe one second, yeah, getting the division, or you win,

888
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: maybe win a wild card matchup against the Saints or

889
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: somebody like that. Yeah, I think things are trending really good.

890
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 3: For that team. The Buccaneers similar but a little better.

891
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: They won the division last year. They want to play

892
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: the game. Yeah, they have some more veterans Godwin and

893
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 3: Evans and Aker and et cetera, et cetera.

894
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: But could be a.

895
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: Not a Super Bowl contender. But if they won a

896
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 3: playoff game again, yeah, or maybe somehow even got to

897
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: the NFC championship game, that seems a little rich, you know,

898
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: that would be the ceiling. Yeah, maybe that is too much.

899
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: They're kind of because they're kind of top heavy in

900
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: terms of the lineup. Like if they get a couple

901
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: of injuries.

902
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: Nothing bad has happened to them yet, you know, right.

903
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, although they haven't missing the safety w Winfield.

904
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: That's good point. He's a really good player.

905
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah he didn't play, so yeah, they they overcame that

906
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: and beat beat a good Detroit team.

907
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: They did, so they put De Troit tight. Yeah. Maybe

908
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: they've played Detroit tough period.

909
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: Good matchup for them.

910
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

911
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. That brings us to the Steelers.

912
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: Had a schedule division, the best division in the league.

913
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: Contender to win it. I can't say super Bowl contender.

914
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: I'm not sure I'm willing to go.

915
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 2: Can win playoff games with the stat I mean, you

916
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: gut to score touchdowns, You gotta score touchdowns. Yeah, I

917
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: think that.

918
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: I think.

919
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 2: I think the touchdowns are coming.

920
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 3: I do too. But what we've seen on tape till

921
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 3: now better version than what we've seen in the last

922
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: two or three years, So it's improvement.

923
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: I think the defense makes them really hard to play against.

924
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

925
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: I think George Pickens is an emerging star. Yeah.

926
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 3: I think the old line will shape out to be

927
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: a strength, but I'm not sure it's a strength yet.

928
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: I think the running game will be a strength.

929
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: Really interested to see what Pickens can do with Wilson

930
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: at quarterback.

931
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: I agree.

932
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: I agree, Wilson throws is maybe the best deep ball

933
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 2: still in the game today.

934
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's I mean, I mean, I'm excited to

935
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 3: see Wilson a quarterback period.

936
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: I just keep thinking of that out that he threw

937
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: it to Pickens in the preseason game, the second preseason game.

938
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: I'm like one more than that. We see more of that.

939
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 3: And even a lot of stuff in camp, And I

940
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: know Wilson didn't practice all the time but the Christmas

941
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: and on time, and there was a very much a

942
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: difference with how they played quarterback in a professional manner

943
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: and timing and things like that. So I don't know.

944
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're more incomplete than the others because

945
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 3: they're no one else playing with the backup quarterback.

946
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: They're playing with a backup quarterback right now.

947
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 3: And still people don't quite believe that. But the Steelers

948
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: are playing with the backup quarterback, you know. I mean

949
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 3: they might end up being three and oh with a

950
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 3: backup and a really good spot. Yeah.

951
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: The thing about it is too mad is the people

952
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 2: who are talking about Wilson in a in a bad

953
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: manner are the people who didn't get to see him.

954
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: Camp or camp right right, And they just think he

955
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 3: was terrible with Denver, which he wasn't. Yeah, Year one

956
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: was bad in Denver, ye're two, he brought them back

957
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: to some victories. I mean those eight wins were.

958
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: Think about it. This So one of the one of

959
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: the issues that that Field has had in the early

960
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: going thus far is a couple of the passes he's

961
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: tried to throw to the backs out in the flats

962
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: where I can think of one in Week one against

963
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: Atlanta that if Naugy Harris catches the ball, if he

964
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: throws the ballut in front of Nagy Harris needs to

965
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: be accurate. He had those twenty yards in front of him. Yeah,

966
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: it was going to be a big game, and he

967
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: threw it behind him.

968
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 3: He threw behind him. Yeah, that's a good point.

969
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: That's what you'll see that Els doesn't miss that layout. No, no, no,

970
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: that's like a handoff for him. Yeah, mean that's that's

971
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: an easy throw. And we haven't generated a ton of

972
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: value from Fields is running.

973
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that might change.

974
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 2: I think that might change this week.

975
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: I think he averages like fifty five yards per game.

976
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: At fifty five, that's the number. I bet if that

977
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: is over under this week, I'll go over on Fields. Yeah.

978
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: I think he runs a little bit more because they're

979
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: gonna bring the pressure off the edge.

980
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're a tough team to rank. Not because

981
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 3: we're close to them. But for this exercise, we're talking

982
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: about two and oh teams. Who's real who's not. I

983
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 3: don't think they're a fraud that's going to end up,

984
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: you know.

985
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean, which is where some people predicted

986
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: them at.

987
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: The begining of the year. Absolutely everyone taking the under

988
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 3: this year. Take the under if they're a losing record.

989
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 2: If they beat the Chargers this week at home, because

990
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: that change that perception. Because the perception on the Chargers

991
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 2: is that they're a good team.

992
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 3: How many two and O teams were They're not nine? Yeah,

993
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: I bet there's five or six. When we have this

994
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 3: conversation in the game this.

995
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: Week where two of the two and O teams playing each.

996
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 3: Other, so we know one is going to fall off,

997
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: but a couple will fall off, I'm sure. I mean,

998
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: if you're one of the only undefeated teams three weeks

999
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: into the then I think you start seeing them at

1000
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: tenth and power ranks, you know, not fifteenth or whatever.

1001
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. They don't have a they

1002
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 3: wouldn't have a great win, you know, like the Saints

1003
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: blew out Dallas, you know, like or Tampa goes and

1004
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: beats Detroit. You know, the three wins the Steelers would have,

1005
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: although I think the Atlanta one's going to look better

1006
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: and better. Yeah, none of them are gonna be like man,

1007
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: I never saw that coming. Always smokes, you know, and

1008
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: none of the spreads were insane. But still, if you're

1009
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: one of the three and O teams and then you

1010
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 3: insert a new quarterback in, people are talking about you

1011
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: a lot more.

1012
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: And you'd have a good chance to go four and

1013
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: oh against a Indianapolis team.

1014
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 3: M hm, you know, I mean that's really getting ahead

1015
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 3: of ourselves. But if you could be four and oh,

1016
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: now you're talking about being seventh on the power ranks,

1017
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: you know, and this is then then the narrative becomes

1018
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 3: this is the best defense in the league, you know

1019
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 3: what I mean. It's just you know, that's what we're

1020
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: about it. It makes our job fun too, and everything

1021
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: changes so much in a week. If they get beat

1022
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 3: bad by the Chargers.

1023
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: It'll be like, oh yeah.

1024
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: World's over. Yeah, even if it's just a bunch of

1025
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: bad bounces or mis field goals or you know, fumble snaps.

1026
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: Kicker gets hurt, like what happened to the Giants?

1027
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: Something goofy happens right so or heaven forbid or DJ

1028
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: Walcket's hurt and it's like all season show. You know

1029
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 3: just how this league is.

1030
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 2: It's rough, it really is, and it really is a

1031
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 2: week to week league. It's just it's the NFL. Yeah,

1032
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: not for long. But I am psyched about this game.

1033
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a good road rock fight

1034
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: at the fifty yards old if you like defense, turn

1035
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: this one on and running and yeah, yeah, stoppering coaches.

1036
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's an approach they want to take,

1037
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: and I don't think they're going to derive too far

1038
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: from it.

1039
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either. Yeah, Matt, that's going

1040
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: to do it for our show today.

1041
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: Nice.

1042
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Matt and I will be back tomorrow, will make

1043
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: our game picks, give your DFS line up, all that

1044
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: good stuff that we usually do on Fridays. Missy Matthews

1045
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: will join us on the show as she does every Friday.

1046
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: But for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

1047
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 2: on site keeping us on the air, for Tyler Viittmeyer

1048
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: keeping us on the video and making us look as

1049
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: pretty as possible, we have I'm Dale, Lolly. We appreciate

1050
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: you listening to this edition. Of the drive on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network.