Speaker 1: Schmidt. The equipment manager on our high school basketball team
Speaker 1: was Schmidt also, and he his name was Matt Schmidt,
Speaker 1: and he could not he was not good. So he
Speaker 1: was the equipment manager, but he was like the mascot
Speaker 1: of the team. And he was like Schmidt because again,
Speaker 1: it was all that we were with that. Everything was
Speaker 1: what a yeah.
Speaker 2: When they do when they do period pieces about the nineties,
Speaker 2: like the way that a Bronx tail opens, and he's
Speaker 2: like it was the fifties. There was a duo group
Speaker 2: on every corner, it'll be like it was the nineties.
Speaker 2: Everything was loaded, hundreds of conversations.
Speaker 1: Every conversation. Yeah, that's gonna be from like like our kids,
Speaker 1: great grandchildren's idea of what the nineties were. I think
Speaker 1: they were all just like hey dad, let me go
Speaker 1: out to eat the like, No, there wasn't. It wasn't
Speaker 1: even just general affect on the way we spoke. Let's
Speaker 1: go to out bad out bag get some bom Yeah,
Speaker 1: God damn Alice Springs chicken inn, I want my baby,
Speaker 1: baby baby that they're like, no, we actually sang that
Speaker 1: like a song. This is how you guys talked in
Speaker 1: the early It was all the Matrix and Budweiser Frogs.
Speaker 2: There will be do up groups, but they'll be singing
Speaker 2: the I Want My Baby Back Ribs song. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four one three,
Speaker 2: Episode five of Dirt.
Speaker 1: At least guys, it's a production of iHeart Radium.
Speaker 2: I was just ripped his shirt off.
Speaker 1: No I Wolverine. Oh okay, yeah, yeah ye.
Speaker 2: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 2: into American share consciousness.
Speaker 1: Season four one three.
Speaker 2: It feels like it should be a well known area code.
Speaker 2: I guess it's the Massachusetts area code. This is juset season.
Speaker 1: Uh it's yeah, Western mass mass Hey man Fish, Northampton, Springfield.
Speaker 1: We love yours, Holy yoak.
Speaker 2: It's Friday, November seventh, twenty five.
Speaker 1: Oh god, it's fucking Friday. All right, let's just leave
Speaker 1: it there. It's Friday. Fuck, good's Friday? Wait? What the fuck?
Speaker 1: Oh wait, hold on, now here we go. It's National
Speaker 1: Fountain Pen Day. Get out the fucking old baby. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: it's also National Jersey Friday. Oh shit, if you got
Speaker 1: a sports jersey, it's your day. I actually just uh
Speaker 1: I got a vintage one off eBay that I lost
Speaker 1: in the fire that I'm I'm gonna wear that shit
Speaker 1: in a little bit. National Canine Lymphoma Awareness Day, they
Speaker 1: did not have that win. I was a kid because
Speaker 1: we were just letting dogs rock the tumors. Uh national bitters,
Speaker 1: We chopped tumor. But don't you remember I was talking
Speaker 1: about this earlier at a party. I was like, the
Speaker 1: amount of money we spend on pet care now versus
Speaker 1: my back when I was a kid. It was truly like, oh,
Speaker 1: ship man, that dog tumor got a huge of like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: should be right, should be a right, dog's got a
Speaker 1: candlelope on its neck. Yeah, no for real, Like I
Speaker 1: remember my friend's dog, Miles, and I always felt bad
Speaker 1: because he had a huge testicular tumor. Oh. We would
Speaker 1: always laughter, like you'll look up because balls are getting
Speaker 1: and it was just like the parents were like, we're
Speaker 1: not about to pay on the six thousand dollars. No nobody,
Speaker 1: dog man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a web ab group on every corner.
Speaker 1: It was a weather.
Speaker 2: Group of dogs were rocking tumas like dogs head tumors,
Speaker 2: like around the trash campfire, going web as to each other.
Speaker 2: My name is Jack O'Brien aka now what's his dear
Speaker 2: side rabbit hopping all around the land. You'd be begging
Speaker 2: it to stop if you were catching those hands. What
Speaker 2: the hell is in that pouch? What you got in
Speaker 2: that pouch? A couple of teats, a couple of spits
Speaker 2: and milk and some oil and tons of joey pooh
Speaker 2: one courtesy of Blinky Heck on the disc or.
Speaker 1: Rude pouch. Rude pouch out there you go. Yeah, Blinky
Speaker 1: Heck doing the couple.
Speaker 2: I've got another another kangaroo k coming your way. That's
Speaker 2: what we call a teaser in the next episode. Oh
Speaker 2: maybe maybe you're about to do it?
Speaker 1: Is the one? Uh huh okay, well no, no, actually,
Speaker 1: don't you go ahead and introduce me? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know what I want to know. I'm leaving this
Speaker 1: for you. No no, no, no no, I'm leaving no no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, yes, yes, you simply mustn't, Mom, you simply must. Actually,
Speaker 1: now that I know, I'm.
Speaker 2: Thrilled to be joined.
Speaker 1: As always buy my co hosts. They call him a
Speaker 1: wet ass pouchy something. This isn't Miles Groundles aka hydeo NoHo,
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's it.
Speaker 2: Just leaving it there, all right.
Speaker 1: No deal, no deal. Heykay, there's some Joey's in this pouch.
Speaker 1: There's some Joey's in this pouch. There's some Joey's in
Speaker 1: this pouch. This marsupial stink seven days a week, wet
Speaker 1: and Gushie, make that Joey really reap? Okay, hbo, Max,
Speaker 1: just do it. I can't. I can't do it after
Speaker 1: you just did that, I get I mean do yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. Sorry, you set me up. I tried to
Speaker 1: act like I wasn't gonna fall for it, but I did.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Had to suckling Joey in the skin bag. That's some
Speaker 2: wet ass pouchy blinky.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Oh wait, maybe there's different ones, because that
Speaker 1: was wow serenipitous game with it. Jack meant to do
Speaker 1: that one. I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk to our guest about this
Speaker 2: piece of trivia that we we just learned. One of
Speaker 2: the best podcast host doing it anywhere, my old friend
Speaker 2: from the crack days, very funny writer, a Jeopardy champion,
Speaker 2: host of the Wonderful Podcast, secretly, incredibly, secretly, incredibly fascinating
Speaker 2: with Katie Golden.
Speaker 1: It's Alex.
Speaker 2: It's great to be here.
Speaker 3: I wish I had more kangaroo things to bring to
Speaker 3: the table.
Speaker 1: I'm just to be around. Have you done on Marsupials
Speaker 1: episode or secretly has that? Has that brought you any
Speaker 1: marsupial knowledge, because we just learned a lot about marsupials
Speaker 1: recently throughs just we just learned.
Speaker 2: I was like, it's wet, you know like that, because
Speaker 2: that's always been I'd always pictured it as just being
Speaker 2: like the front pocket of like a hoo jeans.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and sure, no, it's it's messy in there.
Speaker 1: It's kind of anice. Yeah, like you put the joey
Speaker 1: in there. It's like I was, there are other other
Speaker 1: Marsupers got the pouch opening oriented differently, and they got
Speaker 1: like basically a sphincter that'll keep the ship inside too.
Speaker 1: On some on some marsupials, they tighten it. Yeah. They
Speaker 1: were like, because it's because it's hanging out on all fours.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, wow, okay, anyway.
Speaker 2: Pouch think, well you know about that?
Speaker 1: What do you know about that pouch sphincter?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's weird because they're not quite marsupials. It's
Speaker 3: a different thing. Called mono dreams. But we just did
Speaker 3: an episode about the kidness and so of course, also
Speaker 3: Katie Golden, any animal topic, she knows a lot coming. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like, why do you take a seat, Alex. Let
Speaker 3: me get loose here. Let me talk to these ships
Speaker 3: about a pouch real quick. The pouch facts that she
Speaker 3: would hit us with, I feel.
Speaker 1: Like would blow my mind. I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: ready for it yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he kidnas akin just lay an egg and
Speaker 3: then apparently the female they don't quite have a pouch,
Speaker 3: but they basically flex abdominal portions of their body like
Speaker 3: a cavity to hold the egg in, which seems like
Speaker 3: a real rough way to spend a lot of time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I didn't know they lay egg. God damn are they
Speaker 3: the only mammal that lays it? They're a mammal. That's
Speaker 3: a mammal, right, Yeah, Kennas and platypuses are the amount
Speaker 3: of dreams.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, I feel like the.
Speaker 2: Animal groupings are like the fruit vegetable groupings, where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, could be a fruit, could be a vegetable,
Speaker 2: and then this one lays an egg and then it
Speaker 2: just like but it keeps it in a orifice and
Speaker 2: they have pockets built in. It's like, that's those are
Speaker 2: pants that you're talking about. That doesn't even make sense. Yeah,
Speaker 2: an animal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did want like a few months ago about pistachios,
Speaker 3: and those are droups. They're sort of related to stone fruit.
Speaker 3: They're like a little aculinary nut because we eat them
Speaker 3: like nuts, but they're not nuts.
Speaker 1: It's weird.
Speaker 2: Oh, they look like the plant is taking a poop
Speaker 2: when like the way when you see them growing, it's like, ugh,
Speaker 2: it's wait one nasty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they look yeah, they look.
Speaker 3: Like flesh on them and it looks like kind of poopy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Looks oh not not the way I was expecting it to.
Speaker 2: All right, I thought they grew in those cans, you know, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: The Uh.
Speaker 2: By the way, don't knock holding an egg inside your body. Uh.
Speaker 2: Gwyn Paltrow has really opened my eyes to the value
Speaker 2: of the yawnny egg.
Speaker 1: You can finally control your pee on the public floor.
Speaker 1: Thanking you for that. It's been a game changer for that.
Speaker 1: I can now I can fart with control.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The alphabet alex. We're thrilled to have you here.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 2: in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners
Speaker 2: a couple of the stories we're talking about today, starting
Speaker 2: to see those consequences of the shutdown in ways that
Speaker 2: might make the mainstream media be like, this has gone
Speaker 2: too far. That A will reduce air traffic by ten
Speaker 2: percent starting today, I believe, across forty high volume markets
Speaker 2: in order to relieve pressure on air traffic controllers.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. We'll talk about Nancy Pelosi retiring
Speaker 1: in two years. What is she like doing?
Speaker 2: This is like Doctor j where we're gonna do like
Speaker 2: a farewell tour and like honor her, Like, what just
Speaker 2: tell us once you've retired?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, given me this two years from Did
Speaker 1: she do like a lebron The Decision type special where
Speaker 1: she like sat down and said yes, now, I believe
Speaker 1: in two years.
Speaker 2: Two years, two years at the age of eighty seven.
Speaker 1: I say, she's like, I just think nineties too far.
Speaker 1: I think the second you can't, like, you should be
Speaker 1: able to go downstairs steps backwards as a physical test,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, obviously if you have other mobility issues,
Speaker 1: that's not the test. But like if you're so old
Speaker 1: you couldn't go down the steps backwards. Yeah, it's a wrap.
Speaker 1: I can really do it now. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I should probably shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: And we are making you.
Speaker 2: We're making you go through the stairs test before every
Speaker 2: every recording, just making sure.
Speaker 1: You've got the deck. Staity just tears down my face.
Speaker 2: I will talk about the future of ai ads coming
Speaker 2: from Meta, and we'll talk about our good friend Tom Brady,
Speaker 2: who just dropped a sponsored dog on us. You know,
Speaker 2: this is like a dog whose existence is a is
Speaker 2: a like marketing activation.
Speaker 1: Oh that's great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he pulled astrides in he cloned his dog.
Speaker 2: But it was all like from the drawing of the
Speaker 2: blood of the first dog that was cloned. It was
Speaker 2: like in line with a marketing plan for this company
Speaker 2: that he invests in. We'll talk about that plenty.
Speaker 1: More, but first, Alex, we do like to ask our guest, what.
Speaker 2: Is something from your search history that's revealing about.
Speaker 1: Who you are?
Speaker 3: I he checked up on the guy who's a Manchester
Speaker 3: United fan and has grown his hair until they win
Speaker 3: five matches in a row. Yeah, yeah, so he's approaching
Speaker 3: four hundred days of not cutting his hair.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's crazy, is throwing out like you've never seen.
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of fans are now saying it's
Speaker 1: becoming a distraction because now everyone's thinking of if this
Speaker 1: guy is going to finally cut his hair. And they
Speaker 1: got close. I think they did three games in a row,
Speaker 1: maybe four, and then they just lost. Yeah, they just
Speaker 1: lost again and everyone and everyone was like, oh, that
Speaker 1: motherfucker's hair is going to be there for at least
Speaker 1: another six weeks. Seven, Well, there's an international break, but yeah, is.
Speaker 2: It common to win five games in a row? Like,
Speaker 2: is that just a basic unheard of?
Speaker 1: It's not it anyway. I think it's because they've been
Speaker 1: in such dire straits for the last few years that
Speaker 1: they cannot string together. Like their last manager couldn't even
Speaker 1: get two games in a row. Wow, until just now
Speaker 1: like he just got three and they're like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: we're back. But they used to be one finding is
Speaker 1: that your squad? Alex?
Speaker 2: It is?
Speaker 3: I picked him because oddly their manager was named Alex.
Speaker 3: When I was a kid and was picking teams and
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, if they have an iconic manager
Speaker 3: named Alex and also they wear Chicago Bulls colors.
Speaker 1: This is great change of wardrobe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now I'm tied to basically the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 3: of soccer.
Speaker 1: And that's how it is. It's just the way the
Speaker 1: way life works. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But they Yeah, and last weekend they drew. They had
Speaker 3: one three in a row and then they settled for
Speaker 3: a draw, and like a road draw against an Okay
Speaker 3: team is not that bad. But everybody was specifically upset
Speaker 3: about the hair because it has to be wins. A
Speaker 3: draw breaks the streak. Nope, how is his hair like?
Speaker 1: Does it? Is he pulling it off?
Speaker 3: He has pretty curly hair, I would say, and he
Speaker 3: can just kind of tie it all back pretty easily.
Speaker 3: But then when he releases it, it's this huge like
Speaker 3: brow around his head. And people have been doing means
Speaker 3: of like a view of Manchester from space, where it's
Speaker 3: just we're really having some fun.
Speaker 1: With that right now. Yeah. Yeah, oh man, but he's
Speaker 1: not like going full. He has like a very cherubic face.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how much of a beard he
Speaker 1: could get going on that face.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's all had hair. Yeah, that would be
Speaker 3: fun if he looked like a gross man or a
Speaker 3: John Baptist for running across the nation face yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: not quite yeah, not quite yeah, but because I got
Speaker 3: curious about it how he's doing. And yeah, it honestly
Speaker 3: looks like they could win five and they're kind of
Speaker 3: next set of matches, so we'll see potentially.
Speaker 1: He's got a great head of hair for this. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's fun. It's fun. Yeah, big hair. It
Speaker 1: looks like it looks like a guy who's girl who's like,
Speaker 1: please let me cut my hair now because it's so
Speaker 1: big and unruly. Please win. The team that they drew
Speaker 1: against Nottingham Forest is really it's funny because they're the
Speaker 1: guy who owns a team is like a Greek mafia
Speaker 1: guy who has like bro he's like accused of like
Speaker 1: bombing judges bakery, Like a judge ruled against him and
Speaker 1: he bombed this guy's bakery or fire bombed his bakery.
Speaker 1: And one of their star players tried to leave for
Speaker 1: Tottenham and suddenly the deal was off and this player
Speaker 1: did an interview like with the man the owner right
Speaker 1: behind him, like a fucking hostage video, and he's like,
Speaker 1: I just have to thank mister a Marinakis for giving
Speaker 1: me the vision to stay here and I and I
Speaker 1: only really wanted to stay at this club. And everyone's like,
Speaker 1: this is the shady shit I've ever seen. This guy's
Speaker 1: getting threatened by like some Greek mafioso.
Speaker 2: Tragedy of all that lost bakhlah blah you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, still thinking about the bakery. Yeah, lost my
Speaker 1: focus there, I do. I love bacla bah so much.
Speaker 2: It is like the sweetest substance on earth. I feel
Speaker 2: like it's just like that's like some bacle by I've
Speaker 2: had is just they've like just you know, baked down
Speaker 2: the honey so that it's like just so concentrated. So anyways,
Speaker 2: that's what I'll be thinking about for the rest of
Speaker 2: the show. What's something you think is underrated?
Speaker 3: I really like this is something that people already think
Speaker 3: is at least pretty good. But I really like the
Speaker 3: new album by Clips this year. It's phenomenal, very very
Speaker 3: good music. Oh my god, yeah you're reup gang, Alex.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: Oh it's fun, and like they're just there's just actually
Speaker 3: rappers and I really have no life connection to cooking
Speaker 3: cocaine in Virginia Beach, but they do a great job
Speaker 3: of telling the stories about it and getting other themes going.
Speaker 1: You know, that's the point Clips, everyone thinking they were
Speaker 1: cooking cracked on PI rex in Virginia Beach. That's the
Speaker 1: power of their music. That's when their first album. I
Speaker 1: thought I was selling crack cocaine in a tennis ball.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was at a private Catholic high school.
Speaker 1: Now is the tennis ball?
Speaker 2: Actually were they using a tennis ball or was it
Speaker 2: just a tennis ball sized bag?
Speaker 1: No, the tennis ball is how you That's how you
Speaker 1: move the worker across the street. They thought we was
Speaker 1: playing catch. No, there was a there was drugs in there,
Speaker 1: so it's like, oh, here catch the ball. But really
Speaker 1: they said, hey let me get that. Then you take
Speaker 1: the cat drugs. Yeah, the drugs are drugs. Trying to
Speaker 1: seal it back up. You have some little like arts
Speaker 1: and crafts, yeah, baby, yeah yeah. What's your favorite? What's
Speaker 1: your favorite chocko on the new Clips album?
Speaker 3: Uh, Mike Tyson, Blow to the Face is really good.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And but I feel like like the very
Speaker 3: first track is like very emotional and Dad's passing and everything. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and like there's a there's a real range on it.
Speaker 3: I know, I a sentence ago made it sound like
Speaker 3: they only talk about cocaine, But there's there's a lot
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 1: It's all nice.
Speaker 2: They love their dad. Their dad sound like a great guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's really tragic. Songs about like how good your dad was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, truly it's like, yeah, pops bounced on old
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's there right with you.
Speaker 3: Because also, like growing up, I feel like I was
Speaker 3: told that rap is that good and country is not good,
Speaker 3: and that adulthood has been a lot of discovering how
Speaker 3: good both of those are, because there's a lot of
Speaker 3: good country music also about you disappointed your parents and
Speaker 3: you're just trying to live, like Merle Haggard his sing's
Speaker 3: Mama tried about disappointing his mom, and you know, they
Speaker 3: just really capture really emotionally, and then also do hardcore
Speaker 3: songs about how they're kicking ass all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, yeah, I love it. You know
Speaker 1: who else likes the clips? The Pope did?
Speaker 2: They didn't they perform.
Speaker 1: A performed at the Vatican. I don't know. Yeah that
Speaker 1: was wild. Did you see that was a personal request
Speaker 1: by the Pope? Yeah, he's like, I'm re up getting
Speaker 1: He's like, make sure stove God Cooks is also here.
Speaker 1: I want to hear a fight ball will Smiff Jacket boy,
Speaker 1: I cook it till the inside out. I love that.
Speaker 1: Or fresh Prince Jacket, I cook him till they inside out.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's I don't know. I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: that was because if you should check that one out,
Speaker 1: because I think they did. Birds don't sing with like
Speaker 1: an orchestra at the Vatican. Yeah, like this is an
Speaker 1: amazing tip. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And it's like this Pope, the Chicago Pope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this happened. This happened like two months ago. This
Speaker 1: that's always thought of you as the Chicago but the
Speaker 1: Chicago Pope. But you know that's he's home.
Speaker 2: Another thing you too have in common.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he the.
Speaker 3: Pope attended Game one of the two thousand and five
Speaker 3: World Series, and is there is footage of him in
Speaker 3: the actual like Fox or whatever telecount watching Bobby Junks
Speaker 3: try to close out Game one and terrified of won't
Speaker 3: work out, making the face that I made in our
Speaker 3: basement at home.
Speaker 1: It's it's the best amazing.
Speaker 2: I mean, he just looked like some guy like he
Speaker 2: was just the pictures of him at that game. He's
Speaker 2: just like there with like his brother, like they're eating
Speaker 2: hot dogs. Funny, funny, what's something he thinks overrated?
Speaker 3: This is I guess it's kind of like the Clips
Speaker 3: thing because people know this is bad, but like the
Speaker 3: New York Post is very like it's yucky. We need
Speaker 3: to when Zoran one not only they put out a
Speaker 3: cover where they like turned him into communist propaganda. And
Speaker 3: then I just learned today that they are selling prints,
Speaker 3: like merchandise prints of the cover for huge money in
Speaker 3: the official New York Post store.
Speaker 1: Oh, they're now saying, because we're to this morning talk
Speaker 1: about how the physical copies sold out and people are
Speaker 1: flipping the actual newspaper. But now the Post is going
Speaker 1: a step further and be like, hey, you want to
Speaker 1: buy that thing where we're we're saying you're all going
Speaker 1: to die, Yeah, this guy's life, but like this is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a twelve inch by twelve inch metal print
Speaker 3: that they will print on demand and frame and send
Speaker 3: straight to you. And like if they haven't any ethics
Speaker 3: or actual worries about anything ever being good according to
Speaker 3: their beliefs, they would not be making merch of like
Speaker 3: the End of the City. You know, there's just awful, terrible,
Speaker 3: and their readers, I think just want to be led
Speaker 3: to like it. Like it physical looks like propaganda. When
Speaker 3: you pick up that newspaper, you know you're just hearing
Speaker 3: what you want to hear. The man they know their
Speaker 3: way around a pun, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but not as good as the Sun. The
Speaker 1: Sun in the UK they love a pun. Also, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there's pretty there's their next level. Also, there was one
Speaker 1: where Manchester United beat Arsenal eight to two and it
Speaker 1: said eight to see you like this. I know it's
Speaker 1: devastating for me as an Arsenal fan.
Speaker 2: Just looking at when you google best New York Times
Speaker 2: or New York Post covers, they have somebody arresting someone
Speaker 2: for public urination.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. This was from PIGEONWS and it
Speaker 1: says cops zip pisser.
Speaker 2: You'urine cuffs.
Speaker 1: There. It is right love that jeweler gets his rocks off.
Speaker 1: Fifty shades of rage.
Speaker 3: Like like, I know a lot of the issues get recycled,
Speaker 3: but they're just generating garbage. They're not generating anything beyond garbage.
Speaker 3: Every day like they should not exist as a business city.
Speaker 1: Stop.
Speaker 2: Okay, so there was a vibrator giveaway that the city
Speaker 2: stepped in and stopped.
Speaker 1: What do you think the big headline was there? Two words?
Speaker 2: Wait, sorry, buzz off very close almost buzz kill City
Speaker 2: stops vibrator giveaway. Buzz Kill City stops vibrator give away.
Speaker 2: I love that, Love that, gotta love that. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back
Speaker 2: to talk about some news and we're back and yeah.
Speaker 2: So this has always been something that has put pressure
Speaker 2: were the government to end shutdowns, which is the fact
Speaker 2: that air traffic controllers don't get paid and people need those.
Speaker 2: I think, if I'm understanding this correctly, people need air
Speaker 2: traffic controllers, is that right?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah? From from what I witnessed, typically somebody who's
Speaker 1: lived in the flight path of the Burbank Airport growing up,
Speaker 1: it feels like a lot of shit's coming in and going,
Speaker 1: even for a small place. So yeah, I would I'd
Speaker 1: say probably.
Speaker 2: They I just remember from that episode of Breaking Bad
Speaker 2: spoiler alerts, But what the impact that it's breaking good?
Speaker 1: They just acquitted the sandwich guy. They aquitted Yes, sandwich
Speaker 1: story see has been acquitted. Okay, good to know, to
Speaker 1: know the bare minimum is happening.
Speaker 2: I mean easy for you to say. I have friends
Speaker 2: who live in DC, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Just they can still smell the mushard onion. I'm worried
Speaker 1: about them.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the way that sandwich
Speaker 2: didn't explode, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry.
Speaker 2: But the shutdown, the shutdown, the shutdown, which I mean
Speaker 2: partially has to be motivated by that. I mean that
Speaker 2: plays out of control people. They probably feel safer not
Speaker 2: in DC with a with a guy like that, the
Speaker 2: mad sandwicher on the loose. But this is so that
Speaker 2: FA will reduce air traffic by ten percent across forty
Speaker 2: high volume markets in order to relieve pressure on air
Speaker 2: traffic controllers who are working without pay during the shutdown
Speaker 2: and are calling out of work because they apparently they're
Speaker 2: weird and they prefer jobs that can they can use
Speaker 2: to like feed their family, and so they're they're like
Speaker 2: having to drive uber and stuff like that to make
Speaker 2: ends meet. So we're weeks away from Thanksgiving, which I
Speaker 2: think I knew based on the documentary Plans Trains and
Speaker 2: Autumn Mobiles is a busy time for travel. I didn't
Speaker 2: know it is the busiest time every year, Like those
Speaker 2: days around Thanksgiving are the busiest time for air travel
Speaker 2: in the country, like more than Christmas, more than the
Speaker 2: other holidays that.
Speaker 1: We travel before. And looks bad. It doesn't look good.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I feel like this particular president is uniquely insulated from
Speaker 2: giving a shit about this. But it does feel like
Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of political pressure now
Speaker 2: coming their way.
Speaker 1: I would think. I just that that. I mean, the
Speaker 1: the one thing with the shutdown to is just thinking
Speaker 1: of like the Democrats. Right now, there is a group
Speaker 1: that's working with Republicans to try and reopen the government
Speaker 1: on some bipartisan shit, but like not getting the kinds
Speaker 1: of guarantees you need to be, Like, well, they say
Speaker 1: we'll get a vote on extending ACA subsidies, things like that.
Speaker 1: It's like they just got their shit beat down on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Stay the fucking course. Don't let these people who are
Speaker 1: have demonstrated every time they are not trustworthy or good
Speaker 1: faith actors in any negotiation. Don't let them hoodwink you
Speaker 1: into reopening the government and then like pissing away all
Speaker 1: those healthcare subsidies, because that is really massive. That's just
Speaker 1: like the one thing I'm like worried about every time
Speaker 1: you search shutdowns, like, oh, this the bipartisan group is
Speaker 1: becoming hopeful, but it's like, at there's a lot of
Speaker 1: leverage here to actually protect people's health care subsidies. Yeah, sorry, I.
Speaker 3: Agree, And like it seems like the Republicans are really
Speaker 3: stuck because they are authoritarians, and the only way forwardness
Speaker 3: for them to lose something, right, Like they control the government. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the government's shut down. It's their faults to everyone, even
Speaker 3: if they don't have a huge majority, so they have
Speaker 3: to lose something, even though they've decided they get to
Speaker 3: build a thousand year Reich because they won the presidential
Speaker 3: election by like a point and a half.
Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, they're not. Look, no, none of these powerful
Speaker 1: people know how to read the room. It turns out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well the rooms that they're in they're reading fine,
Speaker 2: and those rooms are like, yes, sir, that's a brilliant idea, sir.
Speaker 1: That's what. Don't you tell them the news?
Speaker 2: You look in that suit, sir, that's the news. Like,
Speaker 2: I feel like that's the kind of ship that's going
Speaker 2: on behind new Cologne.
Speaker 1: Sir, New Colone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is kind of alarming that this isn't already
Speaker 2: have Like we've been hearing that the air traffic controllers
Speaker 2: are having to call off work to feed their families
Speaker 2: more and more since this started. And yeah, it's kind
Speaker 2: of weird that they are like, that's it on Friday.
Speaker 2: We're going to have to take that into account, right, Well,
Speaker 2: that that seems like a thing that would you should
Speaker 2: have been taken into account already, Miles. I want to
Speaker 2: pick your political brain here for a second, because we
Speaker 2: do know, like the Republicans could have nuked the filibuster,
Speaker 2: which I'm told as a thing, and ended the shutdown
Speaker 2: up to this point. What do they, like, what is
Speaker 2: their reason.
Speaker 1: For not doing that? Do we think for not nuking
Speaker 1: the filibuster?
Speaker 2: Yeah, not nuking the filibuster and just ending the thing
Speaker 2: and being like we did it on our own term.
Speaker 1: One people, I think one is that like because the
Speaker 1: Democrats have framed a lot of this and being like
Speaker 1: they're about to fuck your healthcare subsidies and open enrollment's
Speaker 1: happening now, so people are starting to see the like,
Speaker 1: oh wait, what the fuck? Like, what is going on.
Speaker 1: He they don't want to own those healthcare cuts that
Speaker 1: they passed in the big beautiful build because like now,
Speaker 1: like at the time they're like, yay, that's fine, but
Speaker 1: now because reality is hitting on that, they're like, fuck, fuck, fuck,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, shut the fuck up about it.
Speaker 1: But the other party is a lot of people, a
Speaker 1: lot of Senate Republicans. They do feel that the end
Speaker 1: of the filibuster can come back to bite them in
Speaker 1: the ass if the Democrats regain control of the Senate,
Speaker 1: because then that means you're gonna go for a wild
Speaker 1: ride where they only need a simple majority to get
Speaker 1: shipped through. And they're like, that could also be bad.
Speaker 1: So there's still a sort of like it is kind
Speaker 1: of a safeguarden while we like to not use it,
Speaker 1: like sometimes like fuck the philibuster, let's get this shit going.
Speaker 1: I think they are. They're also just concerned because I'm
Speaker 1: sure a lot of the Republicans see the polling, they
Speaker 1: see the results, and they're like, like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe there is gonna be fuckery in the midterms and
Speaker 1: future elections. But if there isn't and people still are
Speaker 1: able to vote, Republicans out that's also not that. Also,
Speaker 1: you know, it benefits them to be obstructionists and have
Speaker 1: the filibuster in place, got it.
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense. So it's not just that they
Speaker 2: don't want that steam vote to happen. It's no, that
Speaker 2: means other stuff.
Speaker 1: It's sure, but there is all of But I think
Speaker 1: it's everything right, you know, like they also don't. But
Speaker 1: then there's clearly a bunch of people who also are
Speaker 1: somewhat kind of still tethered to earth. And like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I do feel bad. I tell these people I'm representing them,
Speaker 1: and like they're going hungry and their healthcare is all
Speaker 1: messed up, and I gotta don't I kind of hide
Speaker 1: from them. I don't want to do that anymore. Some
Speaker 1: most are very willing to hide from them. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think one of the main reasons you hear with
Speaker 1: especially the resistance to the filibuster has been we don't
Speaker 1: want to be we don't want to get got on
Speaker 1: the other side of that too, right, Okay, sir.
Speaker 2: On the one hand, my job is to like represent
Speaker 2: these people and they're literally starving to death. On the
Speaker 2: other hand, God, you smell fucking fantastic.
Speaker 1: I just wanted you to know that.
Speaker 2: I bet they're going in there being like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: going to fucking tell him this just can't stand. This
Speaker 2: cannot stand. And them they get and they're like.
Speaker 3: Uh, diet coaxer, right, right right? And also right now,
Speaker 3: it must be truly bizarre to be an air traffic
Speaker 3: controller who is actually ill, right, Like that's gotta be
Speaker 3: a weird time and stuff like you actually need to
Speaker 3: call in sick, I know, but like everybody's getting sick too,
Speaker 3: like they have stress season. Everybody's gonna say it's like,
Speaker 3: oh okay, another one great, right yeah, And I really
Speaker 3: feel for like it's they're making them do forced labor
Speaker 3: and my high pressure job, like what's going on?
Speaker 1: It'll do highest pressure because you know, also as an
Speaker 1: air traffic controller, fucking lives are on the line. So
Speaker 1: as much as like if it's not like a retail
Speaker 1: job would like or something like when I would do
Speaker 1: service job, I'm like, man, fuck today, bro y'all can
Speaker 1: fucking deal with that ship in the that is sort
Speaker 1: of like a fucking plane. People could fucking die. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So you've really got me against the wall here, because I,
Speaker 1: in good conscience don't want to put people at risk.
Speaker 1: Plus you're not paying for me. It's it's pretty fucking vile.
Speaker 2: But I think you should do the ultimate sign of
Speaker 2: respect and start lining up outside their houses with pots
Speaker 2: and pans and just weirding them out.
Speaker 1: Yeah bang bang bang bang bang bang bank thank you,
Speaker 1: I mean thank you, yeah, back bang. It's uh, it's
Speaker 1: a vital part of you know, the how money moves
Speaker 1: and people move in this country.
Speaker 2: And I mean that's the issue, Like it's you know,
Speaker 2: people people have been feeling the effects of this for
Speaker 2: a long time and you know, are now starving, like
Speaker 2: families are starving. The food bank lines are out the
Speaker 2: fucking you know, just the longest they've ever been. But
Speaker 2: this is also how money moves, Like this is getting
Speaker 2: in the way of business travel. This is getting in
Speaker 2: the way like it's not just you know, passenger airplanes,
Speaker 2: it's also cargo airplanes. Like, right, that's fucking up big
Speaker 2: corporate product.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But I think also they'll probably I don't know,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen what the actual the throttling back of
Speaker 1: air traffic looks like, but i'd imagine they're not going
Speaker 1: to do things when it's like flights between Washington, D C.
Speaker 1: And New York City where they said regional ones.
Speaker 2: They said they're going to target like, sorry, Milwaukee, get fucked.
Speaker 1: But what about Thanksgiving? I don't know, man, rent a
Speaker 1: U haul. You've seen plane trans in autumn. Get your
Speaker 1: Poka band in the back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, b from a bigger city, come on, yeah,
Speaker 2: they said. They specifically said, like, more regional flights that
Speaker 2: use seven thirty sevens are going to be the ones
Speaker 2: that get hit first.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, maybe they can do some maintenance on those
Speaker 1: planes while they're grounded.
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe, yeah, I'm sure they have plenty of resources
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 1: We do.
Speaker 2: Just want to give a hearty, you know, career rest
Speaker 2: in Pistposo to the career of Nancy Pelosi where she
Speaker 2: is finally retiring in the year twenty twenty seven, when
Speaker 2: when she turns eighty seven and is like, that feels
Speaker 2: like the right age, right, is that technically retirement age eight? No,
Speaker 2: it's actually twenty two years after retirement age. You're you
Speaker 2: should have retired in the nineties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, yeah, I mean it's what she's She's just ready, huh,
Speaker 1: I'm ready now after decades and after.
Speaker 2: Long decades of fearless triangulation and ushering in a version
Speaker 2: of the Democratic Party that has delivered us to absolute ruin.
Speaker 2: We I have finally decided that my mission is through.
Speaker 2: I've achieved everything.
Speaker 1: I wanted to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean also by why don't you bring up
Speaker 3: retirement ages?
Speaker 2: Right? Like?
Speaker 3: That makes very clear that you are not money mindset.
Speaker 3: You're not hustle oriented, Like, how do you get those
Speaker 3: stock tips if you're retired? Right? How are you gonna money?
Speaker 1: Never sleeps? How am I going to get stock tips
Speaker 1: if she retires?
Speaker 2: We cut out the forty five minutes at the beginning
Speaker 2: of this where Alex just gave me a long lecture
Speaker 2: about how I'm not money mindset enough and how my
Speaker 2: grindset fucking sucks.
Speaker 1: Right he said, He said, yeah, your money's kind of funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and not in a good way. And they're like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: check was stay a while to stop crying, But.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's because I woke up at what was at
Speaker 3: four thirty eight am exactly, and I started writing when
Speaker 3: I was going to say to Jack, and I duck
Speaker 3: my head in the water or whatever, and then I
Speaker 3: did a bunch of calisthenics and I headed more water
Speaker 3: and now.
Speaker 1: Too much water, almost drown actually.
Speaker 2: Prayed for two and a half hours while doing push
Speaker 2: ups exactly.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean she a wall burger. She said,
Speaker 1: we have made history. We have made progress, I mean incrementally. Yes,
Speaker 1: you have made history. Yeah damn sure. Yeah, you already
Speaker 1: be in there, girl, you are going to be in there.
Speaker 1: You will be there.
Speaker 2: It's not going to be the good the hero of
Speaker 2: the story, unfortunately, but you have definitely you've made it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you helped us get to interesting times there.
Speaker 1: It will be a chapter like if you take out
Speaker 1: all the pain and suffering that's actually caused by our government,
Speaker 1: you could just be like, yeah, she's had a long
Speaker 1: career and she's achieved a lot, and she objectively knows
Speaker 1: how to negotiate. Now where those actual what was the
Speaker 1: legislation was? Were all of them helpful to working people? No,
Speaker 1: I'm not quite. Some work, some work, some were some
Speaker 1: were some were nice token gestures, some were more substantive.
Speaker 1: But I think at the end of the day, seeing
Speaker 1: somebody who's been in Congress for thirty nine years and
Speaker 1: is now saying I'll leave when I'm eighty seven, You're like,
Speaker 1: we had we had a lot going on just the
Speaker 1: last couple of years where it would have been nice
Speaker 1: to have people not go to bat for the status quo,
Speaker 1: and that that degradation, that clinging to the status quo
Speaker 1: has opened the lane for what we have now degradation.
Speaker 2: I mean, some people are saying, like, it's hard not
Speaker 2: to read into the timing of this after Mum Donnie's win,
Speaker 2: like you might signal that the future of the party
Speaker 2: is with young progressive. So I would say some very
Speaker 2: hopeful people are reading it that way and that they're like,
Speaker 2: and maybe Chuck Schumer will get the message and he'll
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chuck Schumer is closer to a bitings or on
Speaker 1: Mumdannie's head off the endorsing him. I think, like a
Speaker 1: fucking bat at an Ozzy Osbourne show. Yeah he would.
Speaker 2: He would suck so bad at biting his head off, though,
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 1: Oh no, he'd he'd do a little bit, and it's like,
Speaker 1: you're not built for this, You're not built for head biting. Nah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't have bad head mindset, he doesn't have.
Speaker 2: I love this. I love the alex As are like
Speaker 2: hustle grind set beat reporter. Yeah, just away in here.
Speaker 2: Schumer doesn't have grindset, he doesn't have hustle.
Speaker 1: Nah.
Speaker 3: Yeah whatever, whatever size you think my T shirt does,
Speaker 3: think smaller folks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real tight, really really big. Yeah, it's one
Speaker 1: of the tip Yeah. I gotta cut little little fucking
Speaker 1: holes in the sleeve just so my biceps can breathe films.
Speaker 2: Right, God, remember Sean Penn's biceps in one battle after another.
Speaker 1: That's what you think about anything but.
Speaker 2: Those biceps. Well, how tight his T shirt was. And
Speaker 2: now just like weird old man vascular veiny his he had,
Speaker 2: he had washed old man doing HG H body. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I hear that movie's good.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: Oh it's blessed. It's a blast. Just something. I just
Speaker 1: think of his gate when I think of how he
Speaker 1: walks so wild and then he like does that little
Speaker 1: head thing. Yeah yeah, it's like truly like I have.
Speaker 2: I have.
Speaker 1: I've had the worst case of hemorrhoids for twenty five years,
Speaker 1: but I won't go to a doctor because I'm homophobic
Speaker 1: and I don't want to look at my butthole. So
Speaker 1: I'm just powering through it, walking.
Speaker 2: Like this justin if you clip that part of myles
Speaker 2: just saying that the worst for the past twenty.
Speaker 1: Five years, and it won't see a doctor because I'm
Speaker 1: homophobic and I don't want to think in my buttholes.
Speaker 1: I need that as a drop. I won't even squat
Speaker 1: over a hand mirror.
Speaker 2: Coming from a man who said, you burned me, You.
Speaker 4: Burned me, It's gonna be a great tea shirt. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, let's talk about AI ads. Ticketmaster is the
Speaker 4: latest major company to dive into AI slop. It's just
Speaker 4: basically like changing people the color of people's clothing. There's
Speaker 4: nothing like being a Vanderbilt fan. There's nothing like being
Speaker 4: a usc football fan in a sea of red and gold.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's they're doing this thing where they're just pushing
Speaker 1: out mass advertisements on Facebook with like the same slop
Speaker 1: AI family, but the hoodies and the background colors just
Speaker 1: changed depending on the university. They did another one for
Speaker 1: World Series tickets with the most AI looking family, like
Speaker 1: if you you'd almostly like, is the mom are the
Speaker 1: mom and dad twins or something like their faces are
Speaker 1: so freaky very But again, all of this is happening
Speaker 1: because Meta is not doing great at all with their
Speaker 1: consumer focused AI product product really and so now they're
Speaker 1: just leveraging their insane power as an advertising machine to
Speaker 1: push out AI slop for pennies on the dollar to
Speaker 1: get more business that way because they're trying to turn
Speaker 1: a profit. So the future of is hyper personalized ads
Speaker 1: using the power of AI. Quintin and Mark Szuckerberg. This,
Speaker 1: he said, quote advertisers are increasingly just going to be
Speaker 1: able to give us a business objective and give us
Speaker 1: a credit card or bank account, and have the AI
Speaker 1: system basically figure out everything else that's necessary, including generating
Speaker 1: video or different types of creative that might resonate with
Speaker 1: different people that are personalized in different ways, finding who
Speaker 1: the right customers are mmm.
Speaker 2: And that I was like, okay, yeah, that is this
Speaker 2: is the first claim about AI that I've believed. Like, yes,
Speaker 2: this is very clearly what I was made for. It's
Speaker 2: to take our information and generate like weird ads that
Speaker 2: seem tailor made to like for us throughout. That's what
Speaker 2: it's going to be. It's not going to replace like Hollywood.
Speaker 2: It's still going to feel weird, but like ads already feel.
Speaker 1: Weird, you know, Like I'm already ignoring them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's just going to be like more personalized
Speaker 2: ads that are like weird and dumb the way ads
Speaker 2: always have been. But they'll just like, have you know
Speaker 2: the color of your team on them?
Speaker 1: And brands are gonna love that shit. Yeah, they're like, hello, Alex,
Speaker 1: you like the Bulls, Great, check out this deal. And
Speaker 1: you know so four or four Media is the one
Speaker 1: that reported on it, and they looked at the ad
Speaker 1: library from Ticketmaster and just said, oh, they just discovered like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is like this is all they're
Speaker 1: doing now, just found all this larger campaign of generic
Speaker 1: text AI slop to target fans of different colleges and
Speaker 1: different teams. It and it's not gonna stop because it
Speaker 1: costs relatively little money to shoot out pictures of like
Speaker 1: ethnically ambiguous families with a thousand yard stare and maybe
Speaker 1: change a couple of colors, and this.
Speaker 2: Family is cloons yeah right, just like you right, No, no, sorry,
Speaker 2: we're not.
Speaker 1: We're not. It'll probably get to the point where it'd
Speaker 1: be like, hey, Miles, you know how your parents couldn't
Speaker 1: get the sneakers you wanted as a kid, Well, here's
Speaker 1: your chance. With this flash sale to honor your inner child,
Speaker 1: and like, how did you fucking know all this? It's
Speaker 1: like it's we've listened to the podcast where we feel
Speaker 1: sorry sorry. Yeah, Like it just feels that's that's the
Speaker 1: way they're going to use this as sort of like
Speaker 1: the magic trick for advertisers. Like no, it's just like
Speaker 1: the way they could say we can get your ads
Speaker 1: in front of specific demographics on Facebook or Instagram. They're like,
Speaker 1: not only that, we will create the image that resonates
Speaker 1: the most with this group based on our out algorithmics,
Speaker 1: not slop findings. Hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I Also I was watching YouTube, I think it was
Speaker 3: two days ago, and I saw my first AI made
Speaker 3: ad in the wilds at least that I could tell,
Speaker 3: And it was horrifying because it wasn't even trying to
Speaker 3: exploit specificity. It was for that Calshi thing where you
Speaker 3: can just it seems like gamble on any event or
Speaker 3: thing at all. But they could have just filmed it
Speaker 3: with humans and had them say something, but it was
Speaker 3: like AI beings that uncannily turned toward camera and wearing
Speaker 3: kind of glossy situations and just saying essentially bet on everything.
Speaker 3: And then like a different picture of two New AI
Speaker 3: people and the lady says bet on everything, and it
Speaker 3: was just completely uncammy the targeting of this, Like I
Speaker 3: would rather have a Homunculus trying to give me a
Speaker 3: Syracuse Universe the alumni shirt or something.
Speaker 1: You know, at least that's thinking about me. Yeah hello
Speaker 1: orange Man. Yeah yeah, I'm orange Man. Yeah yeah there.
Speaker 2: That's also so presumptuous of them, and like, I'm very
Speaker 2: disappointed in they. I slapped to think that they could
Speaker 2: give you advice about how to get your paper up.
Speaker 2: You're Alex Schmidt. Yeah, your grindset money, fucking your money
Speaker 2: explode man on the street.
Speaker 1: Somehow Alex sells the AI court AI slop a course
Speaker 1: a business course. I don't know. I got this fucking a.
Speaker 1: I had to buy a three hundred dollars course off
Speaker 1: of me.
Speaker 3: Our model wants the homunculus to work for it.
Speaker 1: I don't get it.
Speaker 3: I don't get that.
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and check
Speaker 2: in with Tom Brady at a goat that golt Doug
Speaker 2: golt Man, and we're back and Kim kardashing yesterday, Tom
Speaker 2: Brady today, thank you.
Speaker 1: The the best the goat, the goat, Tom Brady. You
Speaker 1: think he's where it's hard.
Speaker 2: You know, I am a Patriots fan. He is just
Speaker 2: had the ability to win. Watching him, like on a
Speaker 2: play to play basis, he's not like the best thrower,
Speaker 2: like he doesn't have like the best ball or anything
Speaker 2: like that. But like when it comes to being like
Speaker 2: a complete psycho who like got everybody to play and
Speaker 2: like perform at a high level, I do think he's
Speaker 2: got ill. He's got the Jordan mental.
Speaker 1: He's not like a show hey goat where you're like,
Speaker 1: look at this fucking human being, do this right thing? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Jordan I think had both like had both
Speaker 2: that crazy you know thing that made everybody but also
Speaker 2: like the eye test was like that's I've never seen
Speaker 2: a human being do that, Like that's the coolest looking
Speaker 2: thing ever. And like I don't think he ever really
Speaker 2: had that.
Speaker 1: He was just there.
Speaker 2: He was like a force of nature where it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: they're down twenty in the super Bowl and like you're
Speaker 2: still like I think he's gonna win. Actually, I think
Speaker 2: against all odds, he's going to figure out a way
Speaker 2: to work.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, We've also gotten a lot of data from before
Speaker 3: and after Brady times. For Belichick, it seems like Belichick,
Speaker 3: well is a fella who stands on the sideline.
Speaker 2: I think, I will say, I think what we see
Speaker 2: with Belichick is the same thing that we're seeing with
Speaker 2: in in the government that like at a certain age,
Speaker 2: it's just like it's not aging guys, like we're you
Speaker 2: know that there's another football coach, Pete Carroll who had
Speaker 2: an amazing career and he just went to a new
Speaker 2: team this year, and everyone's.
Speaker 1: Like, man, they got Pete Carroll.
Speaker 2: That guy's like got a you know, high energy and
Speaker 2: he like turns programs around and has just been a disaster.
Speaker 2: Like it's like and he's you know, like a late
Speaker 2: seventies guy. Where's he at now?
Speaker 1: He's the Raiders. So he went from the Sea, was
Speaker 1: at the Seahawks, Seahawks, he went sc Seahawks, Raiders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and everyone buys into it. It does seem like
Speaker 2: we just have this cognitive bias where we're like, oh,
Speaker 2: they'll probably be fine.
Speaker 1: Why is Trump?
Speaker 2: Say, why is Trump's face drooping like that? Why does
Speaker 2: why is Bill Belichick no longer the best football coach ever?
Speaker 2: And now he's terrible?
Speaker 1: Wow? His nurse is hot. No, that's his girlfriend. Oh
Speaker 1: bro oh no, oh no wait, so is Tom Brady
Speaker 1: cloning goats now?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, he's clean.
Speaker 2: So he's in the news this week not because of
Speaker 2: his broadcasting career, which hasn't gone quite as well. I
Speaker 2: think everybody hoped he has used modern technology to necromance
Speaker 2: his dead dog back into existence.
Speaker 1: Uh. Louis the pit bull.
Speaker 2: Died in twenty twenty three. Tom Brady cloned her, which
Speaker 2: is heartwarming.
Speaker 1: That's you know, that's great, that's good.
Speaker 2: And in no way does it conjure memories of pet
Speaker 2: cemetery And in no way does that No way does
Speaker 2: the movie Pet Cemetery like suggest that maybe we feel
Speaker 2: weird about people bringing animals back to life, right, and
Speaker 2: maybe don't do that because it's there's there's weird energy
Speaker 2: around that. Also, this is a dog that he shared
Speaker 2: with Gizell, so it's also like a little element of sadness.
Speaker 1: Did he also clon too? He hasn't cloned.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, maybe I don't know exactly who he's
Speaker 2: been dating, but you know, we'll see. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 2: in a few short months, Colossal gave my family a
Speaker 2: second chance. With a clone of our beloved dog. That
Speaker 2: sounds like how people talk.
Speaker 1: I love to drop the name brand of a company
Speaker 1: when I talk about something great that's happened for me
Speaker 1: that isn't an ad and.
Speaker 2: People will always say our beloved dog beloved. That's like
Speaker 2: conversationally my pat comma, who I love yah booms? I
Speaker 2: love belovedly?
Speaker 1: What the fuck is hooms? I love belovedly? Okay? Wait,
Speaker 1: is colossal the people that did the fucking diar wolf?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll get to Okay.
Speaker 2: So the process is very controversial. It requires several additional
Speaker 2: dogs to make one clone. S Cloners have to harvest
Speaker 2: egg cells and use surrogate mother dogs. Wow, so you're
Speaker 2: just like taking other animals and like inserting the DNA.
Speaker 2: The first ever dog clones were two of only three
Speaker 2: pregnancies that resulted from more than one thousand embryos implanted
Speaker 2: into one hundred and twenty three surrogates.
Speaker 1: One thousand embryos in a one hundred and twenty three sarrogates,
Speaker 1: three pregnancies, and then you only got two out of there.
Speaker 2: You got two dogs, all right, which seems like a
Speaker 2: lot of suffering on a lot of dogs.
Speaker 1: Parts to uh get those two dogs? Just quick maths,
Speaker 1: what's uh, what's two divided by one thousand? Yeah, just
Speaker 1: to get a SI's not raded here. Yeah, and like
Speaker 1: not that it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Seem I think the technology has improved since then, but
Speaker 2: it still doesn't seem like a thing that could be
Speaker 2: financially viable, like you know what I mean, Like it
Speaker 2: just seems like it's another like so much of you know,
Speaker 2: capital late stage capitalism, just like a pump and dump,
Speaker 2: Like look at this crazy technology.
Speaker 1: Look how cool this is? Right.
Speaker 2: People are pointed out, like you know, Barbi streisand cloned
Speaker 2: her dogs and immediately was like, this is not my dog.
Speaker 2: Like I guess personality is not just like a genetic thing,
Speaker 2: because none of the dogs were remotely similar to one another.
Speaker 2: They just like looked the same. But they're certainly preying
Speaker 2: on our ignorance around that, with some of the company
Speaker 2: names being perpet you wait.
Speaker 1: Oh great, for instance, clever, clever, clever, clever, clever, perpetuate. Wow.
Speaker 1: They ate on that one for sure, wowy per pet
Speaker 1: oh you ate?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this this whole process is not the future that
Speaker 3: Star Wars episode two promised Camino ocean planet with the clones,
Speaker 3: they made it really easy exactly.
Speaker 1: That did look shitty for the clones.
Speaker 3: I will say, ah, like the life, Yeah that's not
Speaker 3: a great life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a great life, but they're clones. Who cares? Yeah, the.
Speaker 2: The And I think they had them growing faster at
Speaker 2: like a at a faster rate like they grew, which
Speaker 2: was always my question about Jurassic Park because these were
Speaker 2: like full grown dinosaurs. So did they clone them thirty
Speaker 2: years ago? Like how how is it so quick or
Speaker 2: how early did they have cloning technology?
Speaker 1: And that was also my question about the dire Wolf.
Speaker 2: Like we're not seeing that many like pictures or like
Speaker 2: videos of the dire Wolf, probably because it's still like
Speaker 2: just a baby, probably like.
Speaker 1: Kill me the fucking mess kind of fucking bring some
Speaker 1: shit back that shouldn't have.
Speaker 2: But Tom Brady's if you've seen his broadcasting career, this
Speaker 2: this next part won't surprise you because he looks like
Speaker 2: a synthetic like he looks like a he looks like
Speaker 2: a synthetic human being.
Speaker 1: He's just like an alien, yeah, straight up, just very
Speaker 1: smooth faced, giant white teeth and something off behind the eyes.
Speaker 3: Yes, But speaking of me being a Manchester United fan.
Speaker 3: He's kind of morphing into Christiana Ronaldo and I don't
Speaker 3: love that guy either, but like it's kind of a
Speaker 3: weird thing going out, Like at some point, if you're
Speaker 3: gonna be a tycoon of superhuman sports ness, that kind
Speaker 3: of guy starts existing.
Speaker 1: It's weird. Christiano and not a big Trump fan now too.
Speaker 1: He was saying something cool. He's like he's the future,
Speaker 1: and you're like Trump is the future. It's such an
Speaker 1: interesting take. He had faces like melting off of this.
Speaker 1: He says something about how he's like the man who's
Speaker 1: going to change the world. It's like some weird ship anyway.
Speaker 1: But just it was named after.
Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan, Like it makes sense, like of course they're friends,
Speaker 3: Christiano Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 1: Is he dad named him after Ronald Reagan? Is that real? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Dan was a big fan of Ronald Reagan
Speaker 3: and his you know, Portuguese or whatever.
Speaker 1: Why would you bother? But yeah, my god, my son, thatcher.
Speaker 1: You know, we appreciate that anecdote.
Speaker 2: So I just want to read the details of like
Speaker 2: how this came about, because it was not about like
Speaker 2: celebrating a beloved pet. It was basically just a deal
Speaker 2: to promote this company like from the start, like so
Speaker 2: like you like you mentioned my there's a colossal recent
Speaker 2: acquired a cloning company, but they are the same cloning
Speaker 2: company that did the Dire Wolf and are just like
Speaker 2: you know, Headline Farming. Essentially, Brady collected his dog's blood
Speaker 2: before it died with this plan in mind. Like there
Speaker 2: he was like this is Oh, you're gonna make me
Speaker 2: a lot of money. I guess he's drawn blood from
Speaker 2: a still living dog, being like, now could you die
Speaker 2: on our timeline so that we could get this out
Speaker 2: in line with.
Speaker 1: Dude, Now I'm wondering he must have posted some fake
Speaker 1: gas insincere my dog died post as like a long
Speaker 1: place you know, definitely right, okay as hell? Yeah take
Speaker 1: three hundred. Tom.
Speaker 2: You need to actually, like we need to get some
Speaker 2: emotion out of your face as you're you're supposed to
Speaker 2: be like sad that the dog died. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: like he's smiling so much. They just see gi upside down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, Tom, can you put the cash down? Don't
Speaker 1: put it in the frame as you're talking, just put
Speaker 1: it on the table. If you can't, I think it hurts.
Speaker 2: The relatability when you're drying your tears with cash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 2: People are pointing out that his Dead Dog Clone is
Speaker 2: essentially a brand activation all in the surface of hype
Speaker 2: and colossals fifty thousand dollars dog cloning service, So I
Speaker 2: guess they can make it profitable at a certain level
Speaker 2: if it's fifty thousand dollars a per dog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: This company just seems like wildly full of shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They said they brought the dire wolf back. Genetic experts
Speaker 2: are like they added some of the high ray elements
Speaker 2: to existing wolves, Like you can't bring a dire wolf
Speaker 2: back because there aren't dire wolves to give birth to
Speaker 2: a dire.
Speaker 1: Wolf like that, you know well, and also just the
Speaker 1: splicing you have to do is like that's why everyone
Speaker 1: was like, this isn't this it's a it's like a hybrid.
Speaker 1: It's some other abomination created by Colossal. But I mean,
Speaker 1: they're very clear it's not like Jurassic Park. Oh wait,
Speaker 1: it's exactly that. They say.
Speaker 2: Their headline is Colossal is the real life blockbuster of
Speaker 2: Jurassic Park and Indiana Jones celebs like Tom Brady behind it. Oh,
Speaker 2: their own website brags at the company. Is what you
Speaker 2: get when you mix Jurassic Park, the Avengers, and Indiana
Speaker 2: Jones and real life.
Speaker 1: What the fucker? What does that mean? Indiana Jones?
Speaker 2: So Avengers, I'm guessing they just mean like superheroes, like
Speaker 2: so Tom Brady right, like real world cool superheroes, and
Speaker 2: like Tony Stark technology, Jurassic Park makes sense.
Speaker 1: Jurassic Park is the only one that even the Avengers
Speaker 1: of like celebrity endorsements.
Speaker 2: I think they're probably trying to imply that they're going
Speaker 2: to create superhumans.
Speaker 3: I agree, Avengers doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, we got a couple of dogs that are
Speaker 1: shooting lasers out of their eyes and it's killing a
Speaker 1: couple of people. We're trying to figure out how to find.
Speaker 1: Indiana Jones is really strange. What is that?
Speaker 3: What could that even be in reference to he takes
Speaker 3: up archaeological and anthropological stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, in the sense that eugenics and the Nazis
Speaker 2: are the bad guys in Indiana Jones.
Speaker 1: So you know what I mean? Yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they just really misunderstood the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's cool. Yeah, this is Indiana Jones. Guy someone's
Speaker 1: got to get rid of him. Huh they've got Oh wow,
Speaker 1: so it's Brady Paris Hilton Tiger Woods is also on
Speaker 1: the hook, the noted gigantic skull ha Tony Robbins also,
Speaker 1: and even actors and animal activists like the Hemsworth brothers.
Speaker 1: They had to add that even animal activists, because most
Speaker 1: people were like, this is so fucked up. Why are
Speaker 1: we trying to reprint dogs for fifty k when every
Speaker 1: shelter is like overrun with pets that need adopting it. Hey,
Speaker 1: go ahead, you know, print, do another xerox copy of Lua.
Speaker 2: So people have asked Ben Lamb, the founder of the company,
Speaker 2: if he's actually watched Jurassic Park, since it has a
Speaker 2: pretty clear it's kind of a weird one to be
Speaker 2: invoking where the when the thing is like this was
Speaker 2: a bad idea? Like uh, this is this really got
Speaker 2: out of him and he said, people have to remember
Speaker 2: that that was a movie, right. I just hate the
Speaker 2: fucking way these people talk but those movies, right, So like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it was a scripted ending. So I'll go to a
Speaker 2: scripted show and I'll make the ending great and then
Speaker 2: you guys can talk about.
Speaker 1: That that was his response. Holy shit, So so he's
Speaker 1: like eight years old. Yeah, tops. But his whole thing
Speaker 1: is like, well, because that's a movie and it's scripted,
Speaker 1: now I'll make my own thing that reinforces my backwards worldview,
Speaker 1: and I'll point to that as a rationalization or justification.
Speaker 1: He's basically saying, like, I could do that. How about that?
Speaker 1: And then you talk about that? Gets right?
Speaker 2: Where's ethical concerns?
Speaker 1: Do you think they're just like flying? Like Ian Malcolm
Speaker 1: quotes by him in the interviews, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it sounds like a cost. So your scientists were just
Speaker 1: so preoccupied with whether or not they could they didn't
Speaker 1: stop to think if they should. Yeah. Anyway, it was
Speaker 1: a scripted movie, right, So like.
Speaker 3: In my in my fanscript The Adventures of Being Malcolm,
Speaker 3: he says a different thing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he says, actually, the Jurassic Park is so
Speaker 1: fucking sick, dog, I'm so happy you guys, you imagine
Speaker 1: that's all Ian Malcolm says, you would be so sick.
Speaker 1: It's a two minute movie. Yeah. As again, Malcolm once
Speaker 1: said his rebuttal was, oh, I have have you seen
Speaker 1: this version of Jurassic Park? And slides at a fucking
Speaker 1: copy across the table. What is this? This is a
Speaker 1: Jurassic Park I saw. I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: The the one where Ian Malcolm says this is good, right.
Speaker 3: The ride never breaks down and everything goes well and
Speaker 3: it's sick. He like, who pictures of you and Malcolm
Speaker 3: and crayon on the cover and stuff like, come on,
Speaker 3: what happened to this one?
Speaker 2: Mark guy says it's a good idea, yeah, and the
Speaker 2: journalist is bad, but yeah, expert like in terms of
Speaker 2: the actual payoff, like that, there is something about this
Speaker 2: that captures the imagination, and people who understand the science say, quote,
Speaker 2: a hairy elephant is not a wooly mammoth, and a
Speaker 2: gray wolf with a few genetic alterations isn't a dire wolf. Right,
Speaker 2: Saying they are with a tweaked definition of de extinction
Speaker 2: doesn't make it true. So it's all just like a
Speaker 2: bit pump and dump, grab some headlines, get people to
Speaker 2: invest in your company. And I think they do have
Speaker 2: like a seven billion dollar valuation.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't doubt that there are people who
Speaker 1: would pay to clone their pets. That's I mean, we've
Speaker 1: seen it so if that's maybe maybe that's their business.
Speaker 1: But the idea of like you're bringing like you are
Speaker 1: not fucking doctor John Hammond. Okay, that's it, out of
Speaker 1: your mind. You're not doing I know, John Hammond. I know, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: And this is not dino DNA And where did you
Speaker 1: get the mosquitos in amber or whatever? Fuck it. I
Speaker 1: just don't like I love Jurassic Park so much. I
Speaker 1: don't want people claiming Jurassic Park.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. There's a quick note about the co founder,
Speaker 1: George Church.
Speaker 2: It is the same guy behind the controversial DNA dating
Speaker 2: app aka dating app for You, Genesis, and also the
Speaker 2: same George Church that was defending accepting money for his
Speaker 2: lab donated by convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, Jeffrey Epstein, the financier, conject convicted
Speaker 2: pedophile jeff Wait he was a financier.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait yeah wow, I mean that makes sense.
Speaker 1: That's that seemed like right up his alley for all
Speaker 1: the like scientists. He would always bore to death with
Speaker 1: his like fucking weird research. You'd always want to talk
Speaker 1: about it.
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