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Speaker 1: It has been a tumultuous week for one mister Lebron James,

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Speaker 1: and it got even worse today when the ESPN. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Baxter Holmes Athletic, there's the ESPN. ESPN. Okay, great research there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but you told me that she put

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Speaker 1: You told me that she put out a statement to

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Speaker 1: the athletics. Since then, but that's yes. So it started

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Speaker 1: about a week ago.

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Speaker 3: Lebron James, for reasons unknown to us, you know we

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Speaker 3: talked about on the show, decided he needed a twenty

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Speaker 3: third season patch that only he would have for the

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Speaker 3: rest of the season. It started mid January and Sacramento,

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Speaker 3: of all places, that just seemed odd. And then yesterday

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Speaker 3: or She's on Monday, it was announced that for the

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Speaker 3: first time in twenty one seasons, Lebron James would not

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Speaker 3: be listed as an All Star Games starter in the NBA,

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Speaker 3: which is crazy that it's gone over two decades and

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Speaker 3: the streak is finally broken. We find out yesterday that,

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Speaker 3: of course he'd get voted in by the fans, but

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Speaker 3: even his peers, his teammates, his NBA brethren, didn't even

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Speaker 3: have him in their top six of Western Conference players

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Speaker 3: on their ballots for the NBA All Star Game. And

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Speaker 3: it all came to a head earlier on Wednesday, when

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Speaker 3: ESPN's Backs Are Homes did a ten thousand word piece

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Speaker 3: discussing the dynamics of the Genie bus Bus family sale

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Speaker 3: of the Lakers. All he one cared about, though, was

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Speaker 3: about three paragraphs where it explained that Genie Bus had

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Speaker 3: grown frustrated with Lebron for a number of reasons. Number

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Speaker 3: one being that she felt like she didn't like the

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Speaker 3: narrative that Lebron had chose them and he was like

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Speaker 3: their savior for their franchise. Number two, she didn't like

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Speaker 3: the fact that Lebron James had kind of absolved himself

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Speaker 3: from the Russell Westbrook trade, even though he pushed for

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Speaker 3: it harder than no We.

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Speaker 1: Remember the video of them having a pow wow in

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Speaker 3: And last, but not least, she was very upset that

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Speaker 3: he didn't seem more grateful that they did him a

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Speaker 3: solid by drafting Bronni in the second round of the draft.

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Speaker 1: They drafted Bronni on potent, on his on his playing potential. Right.

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Speaker 1: So it's been a it's been a rough week for

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Speaker 1: the King. Yes, and I got a message for the King.

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Speaker 1: I'm dead serious. Retire after this season. Call it quits. Seriously, Lebron,

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Speaker 1: is this on? I'm dead serious. The writing could not

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Speaker 1: be more on the wall right from everywhere you go.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to go out that your players have

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Speaker 1: told you you're an afterthought. The fans, the Laker fans

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Speaker 1: vote because guess what, Luca got one point five million

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Speaker 1: more votes than he did when he was in Dallas

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Speaker 1: last year, and guess who got one point five million

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Speaker 1: less votes, Lebron James. So the Laker fans are out

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Speaker 1: there voting and they still didn't vote for you. The

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Speaker 1: players didn't vote for you, the fans didn't vote for you.

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Speaker 1: The league did this phony patch that only you have,

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Speaker 1: and we were really celebrating your twenty three years in

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Speaker 1: the league. It should be a worldwide patch, right, everybody

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Speaker 1: should have it on and it should have started in

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Speaker 1: October when the season started. That's when your twenty third

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Speaker 1: season started. You don't want to stick around too long.

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Speaker 1: You can't now next year and the All Star Game

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Speaker 1: is in LA. Want to send off? Have it one

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Speaker 1: more time? And it could have been in LA. They

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Speaker 1: next year and guess what it be even worse than

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Speaker 1: this year. Like it is rock bottom. He has stayed

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Speaker 1: too long. Lebron James needs to retire. The writing is

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Speaker 1: the All Star Game, Lebron James. Really, Calvin, I think

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Speaker 1: that says all you need to know. Fans don't want you,

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Speaker 1: No owners want you, The players don't want you. Like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, Rob. I think what makes it difficult

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Speaker 4: But it's what comes with Lebron.

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Speaker 5: It's not just singularly the talent.

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Speaker 4: He's actually still probably a top twenty meter rob Ze

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Speaker 4: And still like last night's game, he was incredible, and

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Speaker 4: a team is saying there, no, no, of course he's not.

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Speaker 4: He's forty one years old. But I'm saying is so

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Speaker 4: it has to be something else, And it becomes what

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Speaker 4: all that brings with Lebron? Right, it's all the expectations.

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Speaker 4: It's coaches might get fired, coaches by now, guys might

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Speaker 5: It's it's everyone else's fault.

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Speaker 4: Buzz Is, It's all the innu windows and the secret messaging,

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Speaker 4: and now it's Rich Paul. And is Rich Paul speaking

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Speaker 4: saying it's all that comes with it? And so one

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Speaker 4: thing going back to what Rob d was said up

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Speaker 4: with with the with Genie Buss, I do disagree with

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Speaker 4: the idea that I mean he did come if you

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Speaker 4: remember what the Lakers were prior to him, including the

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Speaker 4: years the last few years with Kobe, they were awful.

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Speaker 4: They were awful, the reason why they had the number

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Speaker 4: out of that. So let's not belittle that. Like I

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Speaker 4: don't at that part, I don't agree with he did.

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Speaker 1: Come the Lakers. We're gonna be fine. The Lakers would

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Speaker 4: I have no recollection of that. I have no recollection

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Speaker 5: I don't. You can't tell me that if you told

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Speaker 1: Doctor Bus, if you told me you had empty seats here,

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Speaker 4: Way what I'm well, I'm sorry, the Laker organization does

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Speaker 5: Talked to a part of it.

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Speaker 1: No, but I'm just talking about have.

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Speaker 4: Full seats when they were winning thirty games with could

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Speaker 4: on now, Rob, No.

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Speaker 1: But my point is that they weren't going anywhere whether

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, let's not make it like you because

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Speaker 4: No, you got a D because of Lebron. That's exactly

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Speaker 4: what I just said. You got Lebron, you got a D.

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Speaker 4: The whole clutch sports thing, and they were actually to

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Speaker 4: not just in the seats, because of the Lakers.

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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So acting to belittle that first you know, part of

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Speaker 4: for him to announce retirement.

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Speaker 5: It's in LA.

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Speaker 4: You didn't vote me in. I feel some type of

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Speaker 4: offer me an extension. Rich Paul says they never asked

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Speaker 4: for one whose side of you know what of your believe,

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Speaker 4: But that to me seems.

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Speaker 1: Like an opportunity for Lebron. Do you expect it to happen?

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Speaker 5: I'm saying that would not shot to say.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm just saying, do you expect Lebron?

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Speaker 5: I don't expect.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying I could see this happening where he says,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna suck the oxygen out of this room. The

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Speaker 4: All Star Games in La we mentioned I'm not starting.

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Speaker 4: Watch me announce something here where it whoop, it all

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Speaker 4: becomes about me again. That would take you know that

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Speaker 4: what it completely changed. The whole entire weekend will be

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Speaker 4: them into proverbial middle finger up and say to the Lakers,

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Speaker 4: to an NBA, to fans, whoever slided.

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Speaker 1: Me, he's not sure he's gonna be there.

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Speaker 5: That's not that's not crazy too, that that wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine him showing up. That's not being voted

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Speaker 5: So what's the outthough? What are you sick? I had

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Speaker 1: Didn't want to go last year? I just he won't go.

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Speaker 4: I mean he's gone to the coaches are gonna put

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Speaker 1: He could always just yeah, you could decline he didn't

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Speaker 4: I I it's gotten weird where ten years ago we

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Speaker 4: would all thought he would have had an amazing farewell tour.

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Speaker 4: Kareem got it, Jordan got it. You would think Lebron

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Speaker 4: and should be this year.

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Speaker 1: There are rumblings going on in New York, New York

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Speaker 1: so nice they named it twice. They're getting a layup

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Speaker 1: of when maybe the night against the Brooklyn Nets at

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Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden. But things have not gone right for

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Speaker 1: the Knicks for some time now.

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Speaker 3: Oh, a matchup with the Nets could not have been

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Speaker 3: more needed than it is tonight.

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Speaker 1: Like perfect up prescription from the doctor, right, absolutely, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So they start arted.

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Speaker 3: Out twenty three to nine, and they won the NBA Cup.

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Speaker 3: They were thriving. Go New York, Go New York.

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Speaker 5: Go.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's feeling good. That's a great thing, going back to

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Speaker 3: the NBA Finals for the first time in a millennia.

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Speaker 3: Since then, though, the wheels have completely fallen off. They've

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Speaker 3: gone two to nine during that stretch. Their offense has

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Speaker 1: All I want to remind you, Kelvin is six months ago,

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Speaker 1: No, get serious, like, like what, Rob G just gave

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Speaker 5: I already hear it right now. What if I told

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Speaker 1: On this, Elijah, make sure you get that in the headline. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, y look, I'm a circle back to

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry here, the thing about this was makes it interesting.

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Speaker 5: That's one thing.

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Speaker 4: If he ever has a calling card, that would have

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Speaker 1: You would say, I would say that you're not winning

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Speaker 4: But I would say, then you know what he's gonna get.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna get an MVP level out of Harden Point

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Speaker 4: Mike Brown. I don't I don't know what he does.

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Speaker 4: They've had to have multiple conversations about effort. When you

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Speaker 4: And another thing, I'm looking at Carl, Anthony Towns, Carl Lewis,

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Speaker 5: I'm calling.

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Speaker 4: I'm right down the phone with the Bucks and I'm saying, hey,

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Speaker 5: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: I heard that the only team he got really interested

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Speaker 5: What do we gotta do?

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, what do we call Anthony town go

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Speaker 4: That's and that's and you Miutchin you mentioned I literally

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Speaker 1: He looks, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Mike Brown

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Speaker 4: What a lot of the blame because and he got

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Speaker 1: But can't you can't accept what happened last year.

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Speaker 1: That's where we'll, well, we disagree agree change. I don't

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Speaker 5: And that's why I said the guy that I don't

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Speaker 1: But Tims never won either. Tis Tibbs hasn't won. And

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Speaker 1: if you're the Knicks, you gotta really be honest about

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Speaker 1: Pistons are there.

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Speaker 5: They won the rematch y'all playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Pistols have won two playoff games in fifteen years. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so I'm even as well as they've played, they don't

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Speaker 5: But they should meet in the Eastern Conference with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that the Knicks should be the favorite

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Speaker 5: Second second round? Then the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 1: Right the second but Indiana wind up going because they

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Speaker 1: They lost game seven at home. My point is, no Indiana,

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Speaker 1: This can't be a year where oh man, things didn't

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Speaker 1: With Mike Brown. Where where the Knicks are you got?

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Speaker 1: This has to turn around immediately for me to feel

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Speaker 1: it does not add up.

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Speaker 4: It's a waste of It's a waste of a year

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Speaker 4: where it's wide open the only cause.

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Speaker 1: That's why Sean mcdermany got fired, right, I mean that

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Speaker 4: And they had They talked about the playoff water they

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Speaker 4: phone day and day out figuring out a package, even

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Speaker 4: if it has to be a three team deal. You

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Speaker 4: call the team. I'm making it up in Atlanta or

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Speaker 1: I'm firing Mike Brown before I give her the cat.

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Speaker 1: So you want to get rid of Cat instead of

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Speaker 1: Mike Brown.

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Speaker 5: Specifically for Giannis.

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Speaker 4: Yes, getting rid of Cat just for the sake of it, No,

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Speaker 4: get me honest, That is my goal.

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Speaker 5: That changes everything.

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Speaker 4: You might not even have to fire Mike Brown if

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Speaker 4: I can get Yiannis and pair him up with Jalen

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Speaker 4: like I already felt like we could compete with you.

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Speaker 4: Now I really feel like that if you if you go,

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Speaker 4: get you honest, I'm getting.

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Speaker 1: Why shouldn't they feel they compete with the Pistons already?

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, they don't have the man power.

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Speaker 4: They don't have to fight the Pistons just demolish them.

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Speaker 4: They're a stepped down from last year. Right, If that's

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Speaker 1: Have a lot of playoff experience and they haven't won

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Speaker 1: They should. They're playing underneath should they should be under it.

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Speaker 1: But they started twenty three and nine and they won

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Speaker 5: Away your USh up about some cup.

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Speaker 4: No, you making fun of dollar hand for winning the cups.

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Speaker 1: What has happened here is what I'm saying to you, b.

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Speaker 4: They're getting blown out by teams. They aren't looking awful

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Speaker 4: to have routine meetings. I'm getting Yannis, Yannis, we just

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Speaker 4: got booed last night. You got booed the other night.

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Speaker 4: Come on, let's be boozed together. Come on over here.

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Speaker 4: I'll give up what.

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Speaker 5: Cat has been a good run.

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Speaker 4: You gotta go thirteen deal if I need to, because

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Speaker 4: what I would do if I'm the Bucks, because I

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Speaker 4: don't think karthy Towns makes you got better with him

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Speaker 5: I'd rather get a bunch of picks, So thirteen deal.

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Speaker 4: Send Karnthy Towns to the thirteen Bucks start Over. The

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Speaker 4: that's the only report. They just couldn't find a deal

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Speaker 4: and now you're feeling like, hey, we can compete obviously

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Speaker 4: He don't want to be the bad guy and be like,

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Speaker 4: bad guys. We'll offer such a great deal that the

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Speaker 4: Milwaukee couldn't refuse.

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Speaker 5: It.

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Speaker 4: Will be the godfather if you will, and come on

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Speaker 4: over here and help us, because they're.

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Speaker 5: Just going downhill.

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Speaker 4: I think guys are tapping out and they're not buying

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Speaker 4: the message of Mike Brown.

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Speaker 1: I think they have the talent, there's just not being utilized.

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Speaker 1: They have the talent. They were up two oh one ball,

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Speaker 1: they had a chance yeah on Indiana and didn't win.

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Speaker 1: Like that to me is the problem is not utilizing

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Speaker 1: what you have. I think they have more than enough talent,

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Speaker 1: and we saw it last year.

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Speaker 4: They changed behind the Pistons eight, not like two three.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean, though, does that mean that they

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Speaker 1: they can't beat the Pistons in the playoff series?

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Speaker 3: Not.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they could as comprised just because the

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Speaker 4: way they play right.

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Speaker 1: Now play I disagree with that. That's that's not they

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Speaker 1: can play better.

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Speaker 5: They would beat I don't think. I don't think you.

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Speaker 1: Got the Pistons going to the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 4: I'm asking that today, No, I'm asking you right now.

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Speaker 4: I will answer that the day after the NBA trade deadline,

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Speaker 4: because I got to make sure you know, like if

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Speaker 4: y goes to the Knicks or goes to.

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Speaker 1: What the Pistons are doing, you don't feel confident in

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Speaker 1: what they're doing that no matter what they put together.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, Okay, I think the Pistons are great team.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not gonna sit a pair of Gianni's goes

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Speaker 4: and teams up with the Knicks or teams up with

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Speaker 4: Jalen Brown or something.

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Speaker 5: Now, you got a whole different thing.

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Speaker 4: So I would want to see that they're absolutely the

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Speaker 4: best team in the East.

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Speaker 1: And to me, I don't even know if their Pistons going

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Speaker 1: to the NBA Finals, their.

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Speaker 5: Heads are their heads above them?

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Speaker 1: Be shocked. I better pair of Jewans. They don't get

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Speaker 1: to the NBA Finals, but we'll talk about that.

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Speaker 4: Rob g we were talking about this. Monzi just touched

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Speaker 4: on a little bit as well. Offensive coordinator position open

485
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Speaker 4: with the Eagles, and they're struggling to find somebody to

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Speaker 4: fill it.

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Speaker 3: And it's crazy to say out loud when you consider

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Speaker 3: they got a Super Bowl MVP quarterback, a two thousand

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Speaker 3: yard rusher, two Pro Bowl All Pro caliber wide receivers,

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Speaker 3: a great offensive line and for whatever reason, I know

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Speaker 3: the reason, but they can get a top flight offensive

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Speaker 3: coordinators save their life. They according to multiple outlets, they

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Speaker 3: wanted Mike McDaniel to be their OC, and he's like,

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Speaker 3: you know what, Nah, I'd rather be in OC for

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Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert with the Chargers. Then like,

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Speaker 3: all right, how about Brian day Ball. He had success

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Speaker 3: with Josh Allen back in the day with Buffalo. I

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Speaker 3: know it didn't go well in New York, but he's

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Speaker 3: got some skin in the game here. And according to

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Speaker 3: the athletic Brian day Ball if he doesn't get the

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Speaker 3: head gig with the Bills, and Josh Allen has already

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Speaker 3: decided that he would rather be the OC for the

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Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans with cam Ward than come over to Philadelphia. Guys,

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Speaker 3: what is it about this Eagle situation that they can't

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Speaker 3: get the top guys there to run their offense?

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Speaker 1: To me, it's very simple. It's a very unstable situation.

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Speaker 1: And Sarahannie he doesn't have He's not on solid footing.

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Speaker 1: We saw this in Philadelphia already. Just because you win

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl doesn't mean you're going to stick around.

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Speaker 1: We saw John Harball get eighteen years and Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: get nineteen. Those are the exception as Doug Peterson, right,

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Speaker 1: where's he right? No, you're right, Okay, he is in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't wait. And if you got to go somewhere,

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Speaker 1: I can see where Mike McDaniel decided to come to California.

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Speaker 1: There's no pressure. Justin Herbert was awful and nothing happened

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Speaker 1: out here. Nobody made up the now heart attack. Oh,

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Speaker 1: let's give it to Jim Harbaugh. What is he doing?

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Speaker 1: He's wasting just nothing? Did you hear peep, Kelvin, you're

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Speaker 1: out here in La not a peep. It's easier. Some

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Speaker 1: people don't want that smoke. It's Philadelphia. They've had how

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Speaker 1: many rob g how many different offensive coordinators? Three?

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Speaker 5: Seven? Right? Seven?

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Speaker 1: Six? They've had six and Jalen Hurts his time right

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Speaker 1: in the league six because they keep getting run out?

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Speaker 1: Who would want to go do that? If you're gonna

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Speaker 1: replace the OC every year and there's an issue. Kellen

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Speaker 1: Moore got a job. That's the only guy that was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: he got a job and moved on. All these other

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Speaker 1: guys want and done. They want you out. That's why

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Speaker 1: it's hard to fill a job. It ain't because they

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Speaker 1: don't want to play with Jalen Hurts or Sakwon Barkley

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Speaker 1: or anything like that. Sirianni is on thin nights. I

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Speaker 1: go there. I could be out with him in one year.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a hard sell. They're not giving you. They're

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Speaker 1: not giving you a four year contract. Fully ca teed

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Speaker 1: to come.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Nick Sirianni elicits like, Wow, that's the

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Speaker 4: guy I want to be up under.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he.

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Speaker 4: I don't think other coaches feel like that and not

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Speaker 4: to mention to be told. I think some of the

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Speaker 4: coaches might feel like, well, I'm about to go coach

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Speaker 4: with Mounder that guys, somebody I feel like I will

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Speaker 4: be a better coach. Then I think that plays a role.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to sit up under a guy like man, Please,

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Speaker 4: I'm not listening to taking orders from that guy when

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Speaker 4: I know I feel like I'm a better coach than

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Speaker 4: Mike McDaniels. Absolutely, I could see feel like I could

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Speaker 4: run this team better than him. Then Nick Sirianni also again,

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Speaker 4: if they don't. Right now, as we sit here today

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Speaker 4: doing the akable, we don't know what aj brown situation is.

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Speaker 4: And am I walking into where I don't give him

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Speaker 4: the ball after a game or so all chaos, the

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Speaker 4: offense coordinators tripping, He's not giving me the ball, Jalen

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Speaker 4: Hurst says AJ and Jalen BF and I'm walking into chaos.

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Speaker 5: And I'll put it like this.

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Speaker 4: When you have your own family in chaos, it's one thing, right,

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Speaker 4: you know, Uncle Bob always tripping, you know, or that's

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Speaker 4: just how my brother is.

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Speaker 5: But it's organized chaos. This is family. This is how

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Speaker 5: we roll and I'm used to it. I know what

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Speaker 5: it is.

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Speaker 4: It's another thing me wanted to come into that chaos.

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Speaker 4: And I think there's coaches who are saying, I don't

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Speaker 4: I don't want to walk into that right now. They

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Speaker 4: don't know what's going on. They don't seem to like

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Speaker 4: each other, and like you mentioned, guys are leaving, guys

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Speaker 4: are coming, guys are going, and it's unstable. It's unstable,

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Speaker 4: and you're walking into pressure because now they've been to

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Speaker 4: two Super Bowls in the last four years or so,

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Speaker 4: that you can't come in there and be.

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Speaker 5: Seven and ten. Right The expectation now is.

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Speaker 4: Whin a division clearly, NFC Championship, super Bowl, that's all

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Speaker 4: they are operating under right now. And so you're walking

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Speaker 4: right into that in an unstable situation, with chaos, with

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Speaker 4: a family that's feuding, and I think that's like, nah,

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Speaker 4: I'll pass. If you're Mike mcdann, you'll say, let me

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Speaker 4: go have Justin Herbert. We all talk about how they

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Speaker 4: love him. Oh, let me get a hold of him.

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Speaker 4: Watch what I would do. Oh, he's gonna be this.

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Speaker 4: So let me go be with Justin Herbert in LA

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Speaker 4: no harball, no pressure, different circumstances under Jim Harball, maybe

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Speaker 4: a guy feel like will be a great overarching you know,

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Speaker 4: a leader of men where I can do what I

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Speaker 4: do and you could come here and sell that.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a completely different set.

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Speaker 4: And you know, the fan base in Philly versus the

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Speaker 4: Charger fan base in here La no ay near the same.

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Speaker 4: So it makes sense to me when we talked about

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Speaker 4: this for the show that I was like, I'm not

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Speaker 4: shocked at all.

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Speaker 5: That doesn't surprise me, all right.

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Speaker 1: I just it's not an attractive job for a lot

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Speaker 1: of the reasons you just brought up, and mostly that

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Speaker 1: is unstable. So I would rather go somewhere else because

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Speaker 1: there's a big upside because there's talent. And if you

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Speaker 1: were able to come and turn that around and make

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts you know, even better, and get that offense

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Speaker 1: working and Antonio Brown, I mean a J Brown, you know,

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Speaker 1: and say Kwon'm back into the mix, it could be

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Speaker 1: good and you could be the guy that was the fixer, right,

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Speaker 1: and that could springboard you to a job head coaching

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Speaker 1: job if you were able to get that turned around.

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Speaker 1: But I think I really believe it's just so unsettling

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Speaker 1: that I think a lot of guys would someone's gonna

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Speaker 1: take the job, but they're gonna look first with all

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Speaker 1: these ten openings, first to see is there another situation

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Speaker 1: that maybe I could squeeze more money out of and

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Speaker 1: not have to worry about having to relocate in another year.

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Speaker 1: I'd like that because that I'm gonna move to Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: for one year when I can go to Tennessee and

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Speaker 1: get a three year deal, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like they might, hey, yeah, you want me to come?

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Speaker 1: The only way I can come, I need a three

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Speaker 1: year deal.

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Speaker 4: Or it's a slow build up too, right, meaning cam Ward,

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Speaker 4: there's no pressure, there's no pressure. It's a slow build up,

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Speaker 4: and that everybody sees the talents there, but obviously that

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Speaker 4: team had no real weapons. They didn't know what they

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Speaker 4: were doing, and fire coach after coach last couple of years.

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Speaker 4: So it's like, great, I get to go there. Slow

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Speaker 4: build We went four or five games, six game there.

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Speaker 4: He looks better. He throws twenty touchdowns only maybe eight ers,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? He could build up and

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Speaker 4: look what I'm doing. Wow, two three years of that.

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Speaker 4: You're a head coaching, you get the Titans to win

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Speaker 4: in ten games in a couple of years and can

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Speaker 4: ward to being, you know, throwing four thousand yards, thirty touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: eight to ten interceptions. You're a head coach immediately. So

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Speaker 4: I think the slow progression they probably feel like it's

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Speaker 4: only downhill for the Eagles versus it obviously should only

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Speaker 4: be up for somewhere like the Titans or Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 4: where you already know he's gonna be good.

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Speaker 5: He's at least good.

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Speaker 4: The issue is the playoffs not necessarily regular season for him,