1 00:00:15,316 --> 00:00:23,476 Speaker 1: Pushkin Jake Alpern here before we get started, I wanted 2 00:00:23,516 --> 00:00:26,276 Speaker 1: you to know that deep Cover Season two will be 3 00:00:26,356 --> 00:00:31,436 Speaker 1: dropping weekly on Mondays, but the full season is available 4 00:00:31,796 --> 00:00:36,356 Speaker 1: right now ad free for Pushkin Plus subscribers. That's all 5 00:00:36,396 --> 00:00:40,956 Speaker 1: ten episodes right away. Fine Pushkin Plus on the deep 6 00:00:40,996 --> 00:00:53,596 Speaker 1: Cover show page in Apple Podcasts, or at pushkin dot Fm. 7 00:00:53,636 --> 00:00:58,636 Speaker 1: Previously on deep Cover. In nineteen eighty six, Bob Cooley 8 00:00:58,676 --> 00:01:02,556 Speaker 1: began working with the FBI as an undercover operative, and 9 00:01:02,636 --> 00:01:07,076 Speaker 1: he started going after smaller targets like bookies and some 10 00:01:07,156 --> 00:01:11,316 Speaker 1: big ones too, including a stage senator, but he still 11 00:01:11,316 --> 00:01:15,876 Speaker 1: had more work to do. Bob's ultimate target was Pat Marcy. 12 00:01:16,436 --> 00:01:20,676 Speaker 1: He ran the First Ward, a powerful political district controlled 13 00:01:20,716 --> 00:01:24,436 Speaker 1: by the Mob. He was a nasty, vicious human being. 14 00:01:25,076 --> 00:01:26,916 Speaker 1: You could tell it. If you met the man, you 15 00:01:26,956 --> 00:01:32,876 Speaker 1: would know that he's pure evil, but unbelievably powerful in 16 00:01:32,876 --> 00:01:35,876 Speaker 1: every sense. Bob knew that if he really wanted to 17 00:01:35,916 --> 00:01:40,596 Speaker 1: accomplish his mission, he had to nail Marcy. Marcy was 18 00:01:40,636 --> 00:01:47,476 Speaker 1: the big fish. Bob Cooley wasn't the only one trying 19 00:01:47,476 --> 00:01:51,076 Speaker 1: to expose Pat Marcy in the First Ward. There was 20 00:01:51,236 --> 00:01:54,036 Speaker 1: a TV journalist trying to do the exact same thing. 21 00:01:54,636 --> 00:01:57,836 Speaker 1: Her name was Carol Maureen. She would go on to 22 00:01:57,876 --> 00:02:02,036 Speaker 1: become a big time correspondent for sixty Minutes, but back 23 00:02:02,076 --> 00:02:05,236 Speaker 1: in the eighties she was a local reporter for Channel five. 24 00:02:06,036 --> 00:02:08,996 Speaker 1: And Carol has this one very vivid memory from back 25 00:02:09,156 --> 00:02:12,916 Speaker 1: then of going out to launch by herself. I remember 26 00:02:12,956 --> 00:02:16,316 Speaker 1: one day being in Counselor's Row, which was the restaurant 27 00:02:16,316 --> 00:02:19,596 Speaker 1: across from City Hall where the first Ward had a 28 00:02:19,676 --> 00:02:23,036 Speaker 1: table where the first Ward guys and those who were 29 00:02:23,076 --> 00:02:27,396 Speaker 1: invited would sit and have lunch. Jes. So you can 30 00:02:27,436 --> 00:02:32,796 Speaker 1: picture the place. Imagine black leather booths, wood paneling, blood 31 00:02:32,796 --> 00:02:35,876 Speaker 1: red carpet, lots of old black and white photos up 32 00:02:35,876 --> 00:02:39,236 Speaker 1: on the wall. This is a place where deals are cut, 33 00:02:39,676 --> 00:02:42,756 Speaker 1: not all of them kosher. Even the menu hinted at this, 34 00:02:43,076 --> 00:02:49,516 Speaker 1: advertising a gigantic burgher called the Lawbreaker. That particular day, 35 00:02:49,836 --> 00:02:52,956 Speaker 1: Pat Marcy was there sitting at his usual table. With 36 00:02:53,036 --> 00:02:56,996 Speaker 1: him was John Diarco Senior, one of his most trusted confidants, 37 00:02:57,436 --> 00:03:01,636 Speaker 1: father of John Junior, the poet and state senator. Anyway, 38 00:03:01,916 --> 00:03:05,196 Speaker 1: Carol just goes about her business, takes a seat, looks 39 00:03:05,236 --> 00:03:09,116 Speaker 1: at the menu, ordered a bowl of soup. The waitress 40 00:03:09,196 --> 00:03:12,916 Speaker 1: came back and said, mister Marcy and mister Garco picked 41 00:03:12,996 --> 00:03:15,916 Speaker 1: up your check, and I said, I don't want them 42 00:03:15,996 --> 00:03:19,236 Speaker 1: to pick up my check. And she looked at me like, 43 00:03:19,516 --> 00:03:23,516 Speaker 1: all yeah, kidding me, And so I mean, I wasn't 44 00:03:23,516 --> 00:03:27,356 Speaker 1: going to trick bag her. But I went back to NBC, 45 00:03:28,556 --> 00:03:31,596 Speaker 1: ordered a big fruit basket and sent it to the 46 00:03:31,636 --> 00:03:35,036 Speaker 1: First Ward to cover the cost of my bowl of soup. 47 00:03:35,876 --> 00:03:39,316 Speaker 1: It wasn't a coincidence that Carol just popped into Counselor's 48 00:03:39,396 --> 00:03:43,396 Speaker 1: row that day. I was always drawn to sort of 49 00:03:43,396 --> 00:03:48,156 Speaker 1: secret societies. The idea of penetrating something that people don't 50 00:03:48,196 --> 00:03:50,236 Speaker 1: want you to see that you want to know more 51 00:03:50,276 --> 00:03:54,036 Speaker 1: about has always been of interest to me, And in Chicago, 52 00:03:54,196 --> 00:03:57,676 Speaker 1: there was perhaps no secret society more steeped in mystery 53 00:03:57,716 --> 00:04:03,396 Speaker 1: and power than the First Ward. Technically, the First Ward 54 00:04:03,476 --> 00:04:07,276 Speaker 1: was just one of the city's fifty legislative districts. Even so, 55 00:04:07,476 --> 00:04:10,116 Speaker 1: back in the nineteen eighties, the First Ward was among 56 00:04:10,156 --> 00:04:15,396 Speaker 1: the most important because it included downtown Chicago, Chinatown, and Greektown. 57 00:04:16,196 --> 00:04:19,796 Speaker 1: But in truth, it was much more than this. The 58 00:04:19,836 --> 00:04:24,276 Speaker 1: First Ward was the Mob's Ward. It always was. Everyone 59 00:04:24,356 --> 00:04:28,556 Speaker 1: knew it. We had long discussions in the newsroom, other 60 00:04:28,636 --> 00:04:32,516 Speaker 1: reporters and myself about how do we get into that, 61 00:04:32,676 --> 00:04:35,276 Speaker 1: how do we prove it, how do we show it? 62 00:04:35,996 --> 00:04:39,916 Speaker 1: And it was always a challenge. Part of the challenge 63 00:04:39,956 --> 00:04:42,556 Speaker 1: was the fact that Pat Marcy flew beneath the radar. 64 00:04:43,476 --> 00:04:47,116 Speaker 1: Why because he was elusive. He was not in the 65 00:04:47,196 --> 00:04:51,716 Speaker 1: public view on purpose. The way it organized crime truly 66 00:04:51,756 --> 00:04:55,716 Speaker 1: works is you don't know who they are. The Pat 67 00:04:55,756 --> 00:05:00,396 Speaker 1: Marcy's are the people that operate behind the scenes with 68 00:05:00,476 --> 00:05:05,796 Speaker 1: the real power. But Carol, she was patient. She worked 69 00:05:05,796 --> 00:05:09,556 Speaker 1: her sources, talked to them on pay phones, just listened 70 00:05:09,876 --> 00:05:15,276 Speaker 1: and slowly built trust. And then one day, years after 71 00:05:15,356 --> 00:05:20,356 Speaker 1: cultivating sources, the phone rings and a voice says, go 72 00:05:20,836 --> 00:05:27,116 Speaker 1: to counselor's row. Now, little did Carol Marine know she 73 00:05:27,436 --> 00:05:31,156 Speaker 1: was about to cross paths with Bob Cooley and the FBI. 74 00:05:31,996 --> 00:05:34,876 Speaker 1: Not just that she would soon find the evidence that 75 00:05:34,956 --> 00:05:37,956 Speaker 1: she needed, she was about to break a major story 76 00:05:38,036 --> 00:05:41,156 Speaker 1: on the first ward and this would put Bob in 77 00:05:41,236 --> 00:05:45,836 Speaker 1: a very precarious situation where he might be outed or worse. 78 00:06:11,396 --> 00:06:15,316 Speaker 1: I'm Jake Halbern and this is deep Cover mob Land 79 00:06:16,676 --> 00:06:41,316 Speaker 1: episode eight, The Big Fish. By this point, Bob had 80 00:06:41,316 --> 00:06:45,196 Speaker 1: been working undercover for over two years. The FBI referred 81 00:06:45,196 --> 00:06:49,476 Speaker 1: to the whole effort as Operation Gambat, short for Operation 82 00:06:49,596 --> 00:06:54,236 Speaker 1: Gambling Attorney, an apt name. Of course, Bob himself was 83 00:06:54,276 --> 00:06:57,876 Speaker 1: a gambler. He also represented bookies who ran the mob's 84 00:06:57,956 --> 00:07:03,076 Speaker 1: gambling operations, and in a way, this whole operation itself 85 00:07:03,356 --> 00:07:06,596 Speaker 1: was one big gamble. Now it was time to go 86 00:07:06,636 --> 00:07:10,636 Speaker 1: after Pat Marcy. The FBI had been trying to incriminate 87 00:07:10,716 --> 00:07:17,036 Speaker 1: him for twenty years and they'd gotten nowhere. Ironically, Bob's 88 00:07:17,116 --> 00:07:21,316 Speaker 1: big break came from his brother, Bill Cooley. Bill was 89 00:07:21,356 --> 00:07:24,956 Speaker 1: a lawyer like Bob, but an honest one. Bill had 90 00:07:24,996 --> 00:07:27,316 Speaker 1: a client with a property in the First Ward that 91 00:07:27,436 --> 00:07:30,556 Speaker 1: needed rezoning. So Bill did what he was supposed to do, 92 00:07:30,836 --> 00:07:33,636 Speaker 1: went to see the First Wards Alderman, a guy named 93 00:07:33,636 --> 00:07:37,276 Speaker 1: Fred Rody. Rody was an elected official, but he was 94 00:07:37,316 --> 00:07:41,116 Speaker 1: also very much a mob guy. People joked openly that 95 00:07:41,196 --> 00:07:44,716 Speaker 1: Roodie's campaign motto really ought to be vote for Rody 96 00:07:44,876 --> 00:07:51,156 Speaker 1: and nobody gets hurt. When Rodi discovers that Bill is 97 00:07:51,236 --> 00:07:57,996 Speaker 1: Bob's brother, he suggests, rather cryptically that Bob should call him. Eventually, 98 00:07:58,156 --> 00:08:00,756 Speaker 1: Bob gets wind of this. I knew exactly what it 99 00:08:00,796 --> 00:08:04,516 Speaker 1: meant I know what he wants. He's gonna want to 100 00:08:04,596 --> 00:08:08,236 Speaker 1: bribe and whatever. And this is a perfect opportunity for Bob. 101 00:08:08,676 --> 00:08:10,756 Speaker 1: Bob didn't have to come up with some scheme and 102 00:08:10,796 --> 00:08:15,316 Speaker 1: approach ROADI No, this was far better. Rody had solicited 103 00:08:15,316 --> 00:08:18,596 Speaker 1: this bribe on his own. Just to be clear here, 104 00:08:18,956 --> 00:08:21,596 Speaker 1: Rody wasn't as big a fish as Pat Marcy, but 105 00:08:22,076 --> 00:08:25,876 Speaker 1: he was still an important player. Bob and the FBI 106 00:08:25,956 --> 00:08:29,436 Speaker 1: cooked up a plan. Bob would bribe Roady to get 107 00:08:29,436 --> 00:08:33,596 Speaker 1: the building rezoned. The FBI would provide the money, Bob 108 00:08:33,716 --> 00:08:37,916 Speaker 1: would get the whole thing on tape. So Bob arranges 109 00:08:37,916 --> 00:08:41,756 Speaker 1: to meet Rody at Counselor's row. They sit down and 110 00:08:41,996 --> 00:08:45,236 Speaker 1: Bob lays it all out. I made up some stuff. 111 00:08:45,276 --> 00:08:48,036 Speaker 1: You know, Well, they got a big building and they're 112 00:08:48,036 --> 00:08:50,636 Speaker 1: gonna make millions doing this and doing that and whatever, 113 00:08:51,196 --> 00:08:52,676 Speaker 1: and I want to know how much it's going to 114 00:08:52,796 --> 00:08:56,636 Speaker 1: cost to take care of it. While we're talking, who 115 00:08:56,636 --> 00:09:00,876 Speaker 1: comes walking up with Pat Marcy? Yeah, v Pat Marcy, 116 00:09:01,276 --> 00:09:04,476 Speaker 1: the big boss. He comes around the corner and he 117 00:09:04,556 --> 00:09:07,836 Speaker 1: sees us sitting there, and he said, what's going on here? 118 00:09:08,236 --> 00:09:12,436 Speaker 1: It was an awkward moment. Marcy seems suspicious Bob says, 119 00:09:12,556 --> 00:09:14,476 Speaker 1: Rody seemed a bit like he was a kid who'd 120 00:09:14,476 --> 00:09:17,436 Speaker 1: been caught with his hand in the cookie jar. I 121 00:09:17,556 --> 00:09:19,996 Speaker 1: have no doubt in my mind that Rody was going 122 00:09:20,076 --> 00:09:23,076 Speaker 1: to do this steel himself. I was going to do 123 00:09:23,196 --> 00:09:25,596 Speaker 1: this and was going to cut Pat out of whatever 124 00:09:25,636 --> 00:09:29,796 Speaker 1: it was, because he says, oh, Pat, he said, I 125 00:09:29,876 --> 00:09:32,876 Speaker 1: was going to tell you about this path. Rody jumps 126 00:09:32,876 --> 00:09:36,196 Speaker 1: to his feet and offers his chair to Marcy. Marcy 127 00:09:36,276 --> 00:09:39,836 Speaker 1: sits down. At this point, Rody explains what's going on. 128 00:09:40,476 --> 00:09:43,636 Speaker 1: Bob is here on business with a request to rezone 129 00:09:43,636 --> 00:09:48,196 Speaker 1: a building. According to the transcripts, here's what's said next 130 00:09:48,276 --> 00:09:52,836 Speaker 1: on the wire. Marcy says, quote, tell me who the 131 00:09:52,956 --> 00:09:57,036 Speaker 1: fucking owners are. Bob explains that the owners are square, 132 00:09:57,436 --> 00:09:59,996 Speaker 1: meaning they don't want to be directly involved with paying 133 00:09:59,996 --> 00:10:04,036 Speaker 1: a bribe. Marcy tells him, quote, you're going to need zoning. 134 00:10:04,316 --> 00:10:07,556 Speaker 1: What else are you going to need there? And like that, 135 00:10:08,076 --> 00:10:13,036 Speaker 1: Marcy has taken He's now in charge. He tells Bob, quote, 136 00:10:13,436 --> 00:10:16,196 Speaker 1: once we see what it is, then we'll talk about it. 137 00:10:16,236 --> 00:10:17,676 Speaker 1: In other words, that you have to pay if you 138 00:10:17,716 --> 00:10:21,556 Speaker 1: want to get something done, and you know what are 139 00:10:21,556 --> 00:10:24,036 Speaker 1: the facts, and you know what says, and what's that? 140 00:10:24,156 --> 00:10:26,516 Speaker 1: And I'll determine how much it's going to cost and whatever. 141 00:10:26,636 --> 00:10:30,676 Speaker 1: But Path cut himself into the steel. To Marcy, it 142 00:10:30,796 --> 00:10:33,756 Speaker 1: must have seemed like Rody was taking all the spoils 143 00:10:33,756 --> 00:10:38,076 Speaker 1: for himself, and a strong man like Marcy could never 144 00:10:38,196 --> 00:10:42,836 Speaker 1: let that happen. And so Marcy intervenes and walks right 145 00:10:42,876 --> 00:10:48,316 Speaker 1: into Bob's hands. So Bob presses ahead with his bribery scheme. 146 00:10:48,996 --> 00:10:52,276 Speaker 1: At his next meeting with Rody at Counselors Row, Bob 147 00:10:52,316 --> 00:10:54,676 Speaker 1: brings a pad and a pen. He's got a bunch 148 00:10:54,676 --> 00:10:57,436 Speaker 1: of notes written on the pad with made up specs 149 00:10:57,476 --> 00:11:00,676 Speaker 1: on this building that needs to be rezoned, and then 150 00:11:00,756 --> 00:11:04,436 Speaker 1: he looks up at Rhody and says, quote, tell me 151 00:11:04,516 --> 00:11:08,116 Speaker 1: what the procedure is. Now. That's code for how much 152 00:11:08,196 --> 00:11:11,116 Speaker 1: is this thing going to cost me? Rody then grabs 153 00:11:11,116 --> 00:11:14,356 Speaker 1: the pen and notepad and writes down the number seventy 154 00:11:14,396 --> 00:11:18,996 Speaker 1: five and underlines it. Roadie's being careful, playing it smart, 155 00:11:19,316 --> 00:11:22,836 Speaker 1: not saying anything out loud. Here's what's said next on 156 00:11:22,836 --> 00:11:28,076 Speaker 1: the wire, Rody, you know what I'm talking about, Bob. Yeah, 157 00:11:28,196 --> 00:11:32,356 Speaker 1: little ones, not big ones. That's also code. Bob is 158 00:11:32,396 --> 00:11:36,996 Speaker 1: clarifying what exactly seventy five means. He's asking if it's 159 00:11:36,996 --> 00:11:40,316 Speaker 1: seventy five little ones, which would mean seven hundred and 160 00:11:40,356 --> 00:11:47,676 Speaker 1: fifty dollars. Roady, No, seventy five hundred, Bingo. Roody is 161 00:11:47,716 --> 00:11:51,876 Speaker 1: broken code. Apparently he got frustrated or careless, and he 162 00:11:51,956 --> 00:11:55,556 Speaker 1: just says the exact amount, which is fantastic for Bob. 163 00:11:56,156 --> 00:11:58,276 Speaker 1: All that Bob needs to do now is get the 164 00:11:58,316 --> 00:12:02,116 Speaker 1: actual payoff on tape. So as discreetly as he can, 165 00:12:02,396 --> 00:12:05,556 Speaker 1: Bob pulls out some money and says, quote, let me 166 00:12:05,556 --> 00:12:07,956 Speaker 1: give you five hundred now, so you've got some lunch 167 00:12:08,036 --> 00:12:12,716 Speaker 1: money in your pocket. The next step for Bob is 168 00:12:12,756 --> 00:12:16,756 Speaker 1: to put cash in Marcy's hands. So three days later, 169 00:12:17,036 --> 00:12:20,476 Speaker 1: Bob straps on his tape recorder again and returns to 170 00:12:20,516 --> 00:12:24,716 Speaker 1: Counselor's row. Pat Marcy is waiting for him and escorts 171 00:12:24,756 --> 00:12:27,556 Speaker 1: him to the back of the restaurant. Bob asks him 172 00:12:27,556 --> 00:12:30,716 Speaker 1: if the figure that Rody has given him is okay translation, 173 00:12:31,236 --> 00:12:33,436 Speaker 1: is seventy five hundred a big enough bribe for you? 174 00:12:34,116 --> 00:12:38,276 Speaker 1: Marcy tells him, quote, the figure's okay. Bob then counts 175 00:12:38,276 --> 00:12:42,716 Speaker 1: out thirty five hundred dollars the first installment. Marcy takes 176 00:12:42,756 --> 00:12:47,036 Speaker 1: the money on tape and in so doing incriminates himself. 177 00:12:49,476 --> 00:12:52,556 Speaker 1: Now you might be tempted to think, okay, then Bob's 178 00:12:52,596 --> 00:12:55,636 Speaker 1: done here, right, He's god Marcy, why doesn't he get 179 00:12:55,636 --> 00:12:58,596 Speaker 1: the hell out of Dodge? But that's not how Bob 180 00:12:58,676 --> 00:13:01,556 Speaker 1: saw it. He was determined to make certain that the 181 00:13:01,636 --> 00:13:05,756 Speaker 1: case against Marcy and the first ward was airtight, so 182 00:13:05,916 --> 00:13:09,836 Speaker 1: no judge or jury could possibly acquit. There was more 183 00:13:09,836 --> 00:13:12,316 Speaker 1: work for Bob to do. He had to pay off 184 00:13:12,356 --> 00:13:15,516 Speaker 1: a second installment on that zoning bribe. He also had 185 00:13:15,516 --> 00:13:18,156 Speaker 1: another scheme in mind. He was trying to get Marcy 186 00:13:18,236 --> 00:13:22,196 Speaker 1: to tamper with another court case. Bob's handlers at the 187 00:13:22,276 --> 00:13:27,196 Speaker 1: FBI agreed with this strategy. Here's Marie Dyson. He just 188 00:13:27,316 --> 00:13:31,156 Speaker 1: kept going back to Marcy. He could do that, and 189 00:13:31,236 --> 00:13:33,356 Speaker 1: then if it didn't feel right that day, he'd stay 190 00:13:33,356 --> 00:13:36,756 Speaker 1: away from Marcy for a while. How dangerous was Marcy? 191 00:13:37,676 --> 00:13:42,956 Speaker 1: Very deadly? And the scary part was there were so 192 00:13:42,996 --> 00:13:46,276 Speaker 1: many ways he could blow his cover. Stupid little things 193 00:13:46,316 --> 00:13:50,076 Speaker 1: could go wrong. In fact, this is exactly what happened 194 00:13:50,116 --> 00:13:53,556 Speaker 1: a while later, when Bob returned to Counselor's Row for 195 00:13:53,676 --> 00:13:59,636 Speaker 1: another visit with Marcy. That day, they're actually outside the restaurant, 196 00:13:59,796 --> 00:14:02,916 Speaker 1: chatting on the sidewalk. They're getting ready to go inside. 197 00:14:03,476 --> 00:14:07,156 Speaker 1: Marcy gestures for Bob to go first, and then he 198 00:14:07,276 --> 00:14:11,236 Speaker 1: places his hand on Bob's lower back, on the exact 199 00:14:11,316 --> 00:14:15,636 Speaker 1: spot where Bob's tape recorder is tucked away. So when 200 00:14:15,636 --> 00:14:18,036 Speaker 1: he did that, I mean it was like somebody hitting 201 00:14:18,036 --> 00:14:22,676 Speaker 1: me with a hammer. And I was terrified that he had, 202 00:14:22,916 --> 00:14:25,716 Speaker 1: you know, that he would know what it was. Bob's 203 00:14:25,756 --> 00:14:28,716 Speaker 1: mind is racing, trying to come up with his next move. 204 00:14:28,916 --> 00:14:31,076 Speaker 1: I'm just acting, trying to act as non chalant as 205 00:14:31,076 --> 00:14:33,836 Speaker 1: I can, but believe me, I'm a nervous rock. At 206 00:14:33,836 --> 00:14:37,956 Speaker 1: this particular instant, Bob and Marcy entered the restaurant together. 207 00:14:38,476 --> 00:14:41,156 Speaker 1: They head over to the first word table. I went 208 00:14:41,316 --> 00:14:43,356 Speaker 1: like I was going to sit down, and then I 209 00:14:43,476 --> 00:14:45,996 Speaker 1: pulled myself up as you would if you know you 210 00:14:46,076 --> 00:14:48,836 Speaker 1: had a problem, as Oh my back was killing me. 211 00:14:48,916 --> 00:14:50,676 Speaker 1: I said, you know, and I've got this brace and 212 00:14:50,716 --> 00:14:54,276 Speaker 1: it's not helping. It's not helping a whole lot. The 213 00:14:54,396 --> 00:14:57,316 Speaker 1: back injury is bullshit. Bob was just making it up 214 00:14:57,356 --> 00:15:00,676 Speaker 1: on the spot, and the back brace, well, that was 215 00:15:00,756 --> 00:15:05,556 Speaker 1: Bob's cover. So if by chance Marcy had felt something. Well, 216 00:15:05,596 --> 00:15:10,916 Speaker 1: then there was an explanation, But would Marcy? The problem was, 217 00:15:11,436 --> 00:15:14,636 Speaker 1: there was no getting into Marcy's head. Did he know? 218 00:15:15,556 --> 00:15:20,236 Speaker 1: Was he suspicious? And what was his threshold for quite 219 00:15:20,276 --> 00:15:25,396 Speaker 1: literally pulling the trigger. Bob and his FBI handlers were 220 00:15:25,396 --> 00:15:29,716 Speaker 1: all guessing. When we come back after the break, Bob 221 00:15:30,196 --> 00:15:46,596 Speaker 1: pushes his luck. It had been a close call with Marcy, 222 00:15:46,916 --> 00:15:49,516 Speaker 1: and Bob still didn't know if he was safe. He 223 00:15:49,636 --> 00:15:52,636 Speaker 1: talked the whole thing over with his handlers, the carpool buddies, 224 00:15:52,836 --> 00:15:56,356 Speaker 1: Steve and Marie. You know you're scared, and he's scared, 225 00:15:56,396 --> 00:16:00,316 Speaker 1: and everybody's scared. Anything could happen. We were going to 226 00:16:00,396 --> 00:16:02,596 Speaker 1: do everything in our power not to make a mistake, 227 00:16:03,116 --> 00:16:07,396 Speaker 1: because this guy could get killed just like that. Given 228 00:16:07,436 --> 00:16:11,156 Speaker 1: all of this, it was inevitable that Bob started to 229 00:16:11,196 --> 00:16:14,756 Speaker 1: go down some dark rabbit holes thinking about the worst 230 00:16:14,796 --> 00:16:18,036 Speaker 1: case scenarios of how it might end for him. I 231 00:16:18,036 --> 00:16:20,676 Speaker 1: don't think I really feared. I didn't fear dying. I 232 00:16:20,796 --> 00:16:24,876 Speaker 1: feared being tortured. I did not think I would like that. 233 00:16:27,436 --> 00:16:30,476 Speaker 1: Bob had once been friends with a gangster named William 234 00:16:30,636 --> 00:16:33,996 Speaker 1: Butch Petrocelli, who'd fallen out of favor with the mob. 235 00:16:34,796 --> 00:16:37,156 Speaker 1: Bob believes he was one of the last people to 236 00:16:37,196 --> 00:16:41,316 Speaker 1: see Butch alive. Bob says they had lunched together one day. 237 00:16:41,756 --> 00:16:45,516 Speaker 1: Butch disappeared a few days later. Months passed without any 238 00:16:45,556 --> 00:16:49,996 Speaker 1: sign of him. Then Butch's charred body was discovered. He'd 239 00:16:49,996 --> 00:16:52,756 Speaker 1: been stabbed in the chest and his body had been 240 00:16:52,796 --> 00:16:56,516 Speaker 1: burned with a blowtorch. I'd wake up sweating and whatever 241 00:16:56,676 --> 00:17:01,356 Speaker 1: because I saw myself being tortured. I kept seeing pictures 242 00:17:01,396 --> 00:17:04,596 Speaker 1: of Butching kind of playing a blow torch to my 243 00:17:04,676 --> 00:17:07,436 Speaker 1: testicles and things like that that you know that I 244 00:17:08,076 --> 00:17:13,236 Speaker 1: was terrified that Bob knew he needed a contingency plan, 245 00:17:13,756 --> 00:17:16,156 Speaker 1: something he could do to save himself from this fate. 246 00:17:16,636 --> 00:17:20,956 Speaker 1: I had condom plated carrying, you know, carrying some kind 247 00:17:20,996 --> 00:17:24,276 Speaker 1: of tablets, so I could commit suicide if you know, 248 00:17:24,356 --> 00:17:26,556 Speaker 1: if they caught me. But you know, but I just 249 00:17:26,596 --> 00:17:29,396 Speaker 1: never did do that. And the reason I didn't do 250 00:17:29,476 --> 00:17:31,436 Speaker 1: that is because I would have gone to hell them. 251 00:17:31,676 --> 00:17:35,156 Speaker 1: I believe that committing suicide, you know, is one of 252 00:17:35,196 --> 00:17:39,556 Speaker 1: those sins that you can't do. It was ironic in 253 00:17:39,556 --> 00:17:44,996 Speaker 1: a way. Bob was a man who enjoyed his pleasures, money, sex, power, 254 00:17:45,556 --> 00:17:47,556 Speaker 1: and he was willing to bend the rules to get 255 00:17:47,636 --> 00:17:50,716 Speaker 1: all of these things. But in the end, he would 256 00:17:50,756 --> 00:17:53,796 Speaker 1: not compromise his own moral code to save himself from 257 00:17:53,796 --> 00:17:57,996 Speaker 1: the most gruesome of endings. Instead, Bob decided to carry 258 00:17:57,996 --> 00:18:01,716 Speaker 1: a gun, two guns in fact, which was a problem. 259 00:18:02,196 --> 00:18:06,036 Speaker 1: Here's Bob's handler, Steve Bowen. Bob was never authorized to 260 00:18:06,076 --> 00:18:10,516 Speaker 1: carry a gun under any conditions. Did I know on 261 00:18:10,556 --> 00:18:13,636 Speaker 1: occasion that he had a gun on him? Yeah? And 262 00:18:13,836 --> 00:18:18,636 Speaker 1: did I do anything about it? No. If I was 263 00:18:18,716 --> 00:18:21,076 Speaker 1: going in to do what we're asking him to go 264 00:18:21,156 --> 00:18:23,516 Speaker 1: in to do, I'd want a gun on me too. 265 00:18:24,036 --> 00:18:26,676 Speaker 1: I asked Bob what his plan was. What would be 266 00:18:26,716 --> 00:18:29,516 Speaker 1: his move if he walked into some back room and 267 00:18:29,596 --> 00:18:32,996 Speaker 1: a group of mob henchmen were waiting for him. I figured, 268 00:18:33,036 --> 00:18:35,276 Speaker 1: if I walked into the room and there's a group there, 269 00:18:35,756 --> 00:18:42,076 Speaker 1: just start shooting. When it came to decompressing, Bob didn't 270 00:18:42,116 --> 00:18:45,276 Speaker 1: have a lot of options. The FBI wouldn't let him gamble. 271 00:18:45,836 --> 00:18:48,316 Speaker 1: Bob wasn't married, and he didn't have anyone he could 272 00:18:48,316 --> 00:18:52,276 Speaker 1: totally confide in. He never went to a therapist, but 273 00:18:52,636 --> 00:18:56,596 Speaker 1: he did have at least one form of Catharsis feeding 274 00:18:56,596 --> 00:19:00,996 Speaker 1: wildlife yep. For a while, Bob lived in an apartment 275 00:19:01,036 --> 00:19:03,956 Speaker 1: on the outskirts of Chicago. It was on the first floor, 276 00:19:04,316 --> 00:19:06,916 Speaker 1: and Bob liked to open up the glass doors, sit 277 00:19:06,996 --> 00:19:11,476 Speaker 1: outside and feed the animals. Birds would come, but what 278 00:19:11,596 --> 00:19:16,276 Speaker 1: he really liked were the raccoons. They'd watch him eat 279 00:19:16,316 --> 00:19:19,436 Speaker 1: and feed, and I'd have a little water gun because 280 00:19:19,436 --> 00:19:21,916 Speaker 1: I'd have to spray the mother raccoon because she'd beat 281 00:19:21,996 --> 00:19:23,836 Speaker 1: up and the kids see no fighting for the food. 282 00:19:23,876 --> 00:19:28,396 Speaker 1: But I just enjoyed doing stuff like that. This image 283 00:19:28,396 --> 00:19:31,996 Speaker 1: has stayed with me. I imagine Bob, after a stressful 284 00:19:32,076 --> 00:19:35,716 Speaker 1: day of work undercover, coming home, taking off his coat, 285 00:19:36,156 --> 00:19:39,116 Speaker 1: sending his gun down on the table, then walking through 286 00:19:39,116 --> 00:19:42,476 Speaker 1: those glass doors, picking up a water gun and using 287 00:19:42,476 --> 00:19:45,956 Speaker 1: it to protect the baby raccoons, making sure they got 288 00:19:46,036 --> 00:19:50,996 Speaker 1: enough to eat. Bob told me he loved all animals 289 00:19:51,436 --> 00:19:59,036 Speaker 1: except rats and snakes. Why because they're dirty little creatures. 290 00:19:59,036 --> 00:20:02,836 Speaker 1: They remind me a lot of some people. And snakes 291 00:20:03,116 --> 00:20:07,036 Speaker 1: For some reason, I just don't like snakes, although he 292 00:20:07,156 --> 00:20:10,916 Speaker 1: quickly added, these are guy its creatures. Ay, all they 293 00:20:10,956 --> 00:20:13,596 Speaker 1: want in life is to you know, eat and fall 294 00:20:13,716 --> 00:20:20,836 Speaker 1: around and you know and survive. Sadly for Bob. Eventually 295 00:20:20,836 --> 00:20:24,636 Speaker 1: he decided that the first floor apartment it wasn't safe. 296 00:20:25,036 --> 00:20:29,276 Speaker 1: He just felt too exposed there, so he moved to 297 00:20:29,316 --> 00:20:32,476 Speaker 1: another apartment on the fourth floor of a nearby building. 298 00:20:33,196 --> 00:20:36,916 Speaker 1: He still tossed food off the balcony, but it wasn't 299 00:20:36,996 --> 00:20:43,196 Speaker 1: quite the same. In so many ways, life just kept 300 00:20:43,276 --> 00:20:48,556 Speaker 1: narrowing for Bob, and now even the baby raccoons were gone. 301 00:20:53,236 --> 00:20:56,556 Speaker 1: Bob kept going with his undercover work. There was no 302 00:20:56,596 --> 00:20:59,076 Speaker 1: way of knowing whether Pat Marcy had felt that tape 303 00:20:59,116 --> 00:21:03,676 Speaker 1: recorder on his back, so cautiously he returned to Counselor's 304 00:21:03,716 --> 00:21:07,116 Speaker 1: row wearing a wire and armed with his two guns. 305 00:21:07,836 --> 00:21:11,036 Speaker 1: His goal was to bribe Marcy once again to get 306 00:21:11,076 --> 00:21:13,596 Speaker 1: him on tape, agreeing to tamper with a court case. 307 00:21:14,596 --> 00:21:17,516 Speaker 1: This time. As he answers Counselor's row, Bob is on 308 00:21:17,556 --> 00:21:20,836 Speaker 1: a high alert, so is his handler, Steve Bowen, who 309 00:21:20,956 --> 00:21:25,036 Speaker 1: is stationed across the street. Inside the restaurant, Bob has 310 00:21:25,036 --> 00:21:28,756 Speaker 1: a look around. Almost right away, he sees a mobster 311 00:21:29,036 --> 00:21:33,996 Speaker 1: named Ernest Rocky in Falie. Rocky was a burly guy, 312 00:21:34,356 --> 00:21:39,716 Speaker 1: a former paratrooper with a well earned reputation for brutality. 313 00:21:40,076 --> 00:21:43,156 Speaker 1: Bob plays it cool. He makes the rounds, mingling with 314 00:21:43,196 --> 00:21:49,116 Speaker 1: the regular patrons, and then he sees pat Marcy cat 315 00:21:49,156 --> 00:21:53,276 Speaker 1: Marcy was standing there and when he saw me, didn't 316 00:21:53,276 --> 00:21:55,996 Speaker 1: say a word, just motion for me to follow him. 317 00:21:56,676 --> 00:22:00,956 Speaker 1: Where too, That's the question. Bob glances about and realizes 318 00:22:01,076 --> 00:22:03,836 Speaker 1: he can no longer see Rocky, but there's no time 319 00:22:03,876 --> 00:22:06,436 Speaker 1: to look for him because he's got a stick with Marcy. 320 00:22:07,116 --> 00:22:10,836 Speaker 1: Marcy heads outside, but instead just stopping there on the sidewalk, 321 00:22:11,076 --> 00:22:15,196 Speaker 1: he continues heading towards a parking garage. Bob's trying to 322 00:22:15,236 --> 00:22:21,916 Speaker 1: get his bearings and quickly. I right away was nervous, wondering, 323 00:22:21,956 --> 00:22:25,396 Speaker 1: you know, this is something totally unusual. I didn't know 324 00:22:25,796 --> 00:22:29,156 Speaker 1: whether the hell they we're going. That's Bob's handler, Steve Bowen, 325 00:22:29,516 --> 00:22:32,716 Speaker 1: watching it all play out from across the street, whether 326 00:22:32,756 --> 00:22:34,556 Speaker 1: they were going off in a car, they want to 327 00:22:34,596 --> 00:22:37,076 Speaker 1: take him in a restaurant whacking, or whether they just 328 00:22:37,116 --> 00:22:40,756 Speaker 1: wanted to top twing in there. Steve is in a bind. 329 00:22:41,156 --> 00:22:43,956 Speaker 1: If he intervenes and rushes in too soon, he could 330 00:22:43,996 --> 00:22:47,156 Speaker 1: blow Bob's cover or start a gunfight. But if he 331 00:22:47,156 --> 00:22:51,836 Speaker 1: waits too long, Bob Mike get killed. Meanwhile, Bob's now 332 00:22:51,876 --> 00:22:55,236 Speaker 1: walked into the parking garage with Pat Marcy. He still 333 00:22:55,236 --> 00:22:58,476 Speaker 1: hasn't seen Rocky at this point. He's just going with it, 334 00:22:58,836 --> 00:23:01,236 Speaker 1: and we walk through the big door where the cars 335 00:23:01,276 --> 00:23:05,356 Speaker 1: come out, and we walk into a little shitty bathroom. 336 00:23:05,516 --> 00:23:09,676 Speaker 1: Pat walks in there. I'm following him, and I'm envisioned. 337 00:23:09,796 --> 00:23:12,396 Speaker 1: I've got two guns on it this time. What I'm 338 00:23:12,436 --> 00:23:15,756 Speaker 1: thinking is I'm walking behind him. This may be a trap. 339 00:23:16,756 --> 00:23:20,196 Speaker 1: When he opened that door, I'm ready to pull one 340 00:23:20,196 --> 00:23:22,596 Speaker 1: of my Volbos out and start shooting in case there's 341 00:23:22,636 --> 00:23:24,276 Speaker 1: people in there. I'm not going to talk. I'm not 342 00:23:24,316 --> 00:23:26,876 Speaker 1: going to say a word. I'm going to start shooting, 343 00:23:28,116 --> 00:23:31,396 Speaker 1: two guns at the ready. Bob stands there as Pat 344 00:23:31,476 --> 00:23:35,436 Speaker 1: Marcy pulls open the door to the bathroom. I can 345 00:23:35,436 --> 00:23:38,276 Speaker 1: see it's a very small room and there's nobody in there. 346 00:23:38,276 --> 00:23:41,396 Speaker 1: I can see there isn't He walks over to the 347 00:23:41,516 --> 00:23:45,316 Speaker 1: urinal and he takes a leak. Now he's never said 348 00:23:45,356 --> 00:23:48,076 Speaker 1: a word to me. Bob just stands there in the 349 00:23:48,116 --> 00:23:52,276 Speaker 1: bathroom for what seems like forever. He's still on the 350 00:23:52,316 --> 00:23:54,876 Speaker 1: lookout for Rocky or some other would be a sail 351 00:23:54,916 --> 00:23:58,796 Speaker 1: at who might rush through the door at any moment. Meanwhile, 352 00:23:58,956 --> 00:24:02,916 Speaker 1: outside on the street, Steve can't wait any longer. It 353 00:24:02,996 --> 00:24:07,316 Speaker 1: was just me and I had to go, so started 354 00:24:07,356 --> 00:24:09,476 Speaker 1: to go in there after room, and then I'm going 355 00:24:09,556 --> 00:24:13,676 Speaker 1: hand I I'm gonna try to find him and protect 356 00:24:13,716 --> 00:24:18,196 Speaker 1: him if I acted, And just then he sees Bob 357 00:24:18,276 --> 00:24:22,516 Speaker 1: and Marcy walking back out, huge sigh of relief. It 358 00:24:22,516 --> 00:24:25,476 Speaker 1: had all been a false alarm. But to Bob it 359 00:24:25,516 --> 00:24:29,836 Speaker 1: didn't seem like a chance occurrence, not at all. There's 360 00:24:29,876 --> 00:24:33,956 Speaker 1: almost no doubt in my mind that they're testing I see. 361 00:24:33,996 --> 00:24:36,356 Speaker 1: So the test is if this guy's wearing a wire, 362 00:24:36,396 --> 00:24:37,876 Speaker 1: there's no way he's going to follow me into a 363 00:24:37,956 --> 00:24:40,836 Speaker 1: bathroom in a parking lot, exactly. I mean, you know, 364 00:24:41,316 --> 00:24:46,356 Speaker 1: I'd been dealing with these people for years. He's never 365 00:24:46,396 --> 00:24:50,596 Speaker 1: done something like that before. In all this time, Bob says, 366 00:24:50,636 --> 00:24:55,036 Speaker 1: he was determined to keep going. His handler, Marie, admired 367 00:24:55,036 --> 00:24:58,756 Speaker 1: his courage, but she knew how risky this was for him. 368 00:24:58,876 --> 00:25:02,916 Speaker 1: Every day that you continue to do this, it's a 369 00:25:02,996 --> 00:25:08,756 Speaker 1: scarier day because you when should you stop. You need 370 00:25:08,796 --> 00:25:10,876 Speaker 1: what you you need for evidence, you need what you 371 00:25:10,916 --> 00:25:14,156 Speaker 1: need to make cases. But at the same time, it's 372 00:25:14,236 --> 00:25:18,876 Speaker 1: becoming very It's the danger is increasing for Bob. This 373 00:25:18,996 --> 00:25:22,916 Speaker 1: is a human being. This is a person you know, 374 00:25:23,636 --> 00:25:27,636 Speaker 1: that has offered to do this and has asked very 375 00:25:27,676 --> 00:25:31,796 Speaker 1: little of us, and we are putting him in harm's way. 376 00:25:33,156 --> 00:25:35,796 Speaker 1: It seemed like for the moment, Bob was safe and 377 00:25:35,836 --> 00:25:39,676 Speaker 1: that Pat Marcy didn't know that the FBI was onto him. 378 00:25:39,716 --> 00:25:42,916 Speaker 1: But all of that was about to change. Little did 379 00:25:42,956 --> 00:25:46,956 Speaker 1: anyone know, a gigantic story was about to break, thanks 380 00:25:46,996 --> 00:25:51,996 Speaker 1: to the journalist Carol Marine. More on that after the break, 381 00:26:05,996 --> 00:26:09,516 Speaker 1: Carol Marine had been looking into the First Ward for years. 382 00:26:09,516 --> 00:26:12,476 Speaker 1: She's the journalist who visited Counselor's row, got a free 383 00:26:12,516 --> 00:26:14,996 Speaker 1: cup of soup and then sent the first Ward guys 384 00:26:14,996 --> 00:26:18,636 Speaker 1: a fruit basket. She kept plugging away with her reporting, 385 00:26:19,156 --> 00:26:22,236 Speaker 1: and then one day her phone rang and a voice said, 386 00:26:22,836 --> 00:26:28,996 Speaker 1: go to Counselor's row. Now we speed to Counselor's Row, 387 00:26:29,076 --> 00:26:34,516 Speaker 1: and what do you know? There is a camera discovered 388 00:26:34,596 --> 00:26:38,196 Speaker 1: by a bus boy inside the bench of a booth 389 00:26:38,476 --> 00:26:42,636 Speaker 1: that sat across from the first Ward table, connected to 390 00:26:42,836 --> 00:26:47,836 Speaker 1: coaxial cable up through the rafters, up through the floors 391 00:26:47,956 --> 00:26:51,316 Speaker 1: up to the other first Ward office. The FEDS had 392 00:26:52,236 --> 00:26:57,196 Speaker 1: bugged the first ward table, so Carol races to break 393 00:26:57,236 --> 00:27:01,916 Speaker 1: her story about the bug. Meanwhile, Bob is actually en 394 00:27:02,076 --> 00:27:06,036 Speaker 1: route to meet Fred Rody, the corrupt Alderman, to pay 395 00:27:06,076 --> 00:27:09,596 Speaker 1: him off for his help tampering with a case. Bob's 396 00:27:09,636 --> 00:27:13,476 Speaker 1: plan is to meet Rody at you guessed, at Counselor's Row. 397 00:27:15,476 --> 00:27:18,076 Speaker 1: At this point, Bob has no idea that a camera 398 00:27:18,116 --> 00:27:21,756 Speaker 1: has been discovered at the restaurant. In fact, Bob doesn't 399 00:27:21,796 --> 00:27:24,596 Speaker 1: even know that the FBI has installed such a camera there. 400 00:27:25,236 --> 00:27:28,196 Speaker 1: No one had bothered to tell him, and now he 401 00:27:28,316 --> 00:27:32,476 Speaker 1: was walking right into it completely blind. I get out 402 00:27:32,476 --> 00:27:37,436 Speaker 1: of the car, I start walking on the sidewalk, you know, 403 00:27:38,116 --> 00:27:42,356 Speaker 1: to go into Counselor's Row. And I get about halfway 404 00:27:42,436 --> 00:27:45,756 Speaker 1: from the alley to there when he sees Fred Rody, 405 00:27:45,996 --> 00:27:48,356 Speaker 1: the corrupt Alderman, because he was waiting for me. It 406 00:27:48,356 --> 00:27:51,396 Speaker 1: turns out, when he saw me, he came out and 407 00:27:51,436 --> 00:27:54,356 Speaker 1: he motioned me to walk across the street with him, 408 00:27:54,356 --> 00:27:57,756 Speaker 1: and he started walking across the street. Now I have 409 00:27:57,916 --> 00:28:01,316 Speaker 1: no idea what's going on at this time? What the 410 00:28:01,396 --> 00:28:05,276 Speaker 1: fuck is this? Roadie turns to Bob and breaks the news, 411 00:28:05,676 --> 00:28:08,916 Speaker 1: tells him about the hidden camera that's been discovered. Bob 412 00:28:09,316 --> 00:28:14,676 Speaker 1: is floored and right away, what hell a bug? Where 413 00:28:14,796 --> 00:28:18,836 Speaker 1: what bug? Bob is legitimately shocked here he's not putting 414 00:28:18,836 --> 00:28:21,796 Speaker 1: on a show. He had no idea about that bug. 415 00:28:22,716 --> 00:28:26,076 Speaker 1: Rody leads him across the street to city Hall and 416 00:28:26,156 --> 00:28:29,156 Speaker 1: takes him up to his office. Now his office is 417 00:28:29,196 --> 00:28:33,916 Speaker 1: a huge, a huge room, and it's but see things 418 00:28:33,916 --> 00:28:37,636 Speaker 1: about thirty forty feet up. And he's not saying a word. 419 00:28:37,676 --> 00:28:40,836 Speaker 1: Now we're not talking at all. As we're walking towards her. 420 00:28:41,156 --> 00:28:44,956 Speaker 1: We go in and now I'm thinking in my mind, 421 00:28:45,036 --> 00:28:47,476 Speaker 1: this is some kind of a trap for me. Bob 422 00:28:47,516 --> 00:28:50,156 Speaker 1: tries to calm himself down. I mean, they're not going 423 00:28:50,196 --> 00:28:52,716 Speaker 1: to kill him in city Hall, right, he had to 424 00:28:52,756 --> 00:28:56,876 Speaker 1: keep his composure. When we walk in there, he closes 425 00:28:56,916 --> 00:29:00,436 Speaker 1: the drapes and has us said a word, and then 426 00:29:00,516 --> 00:29:03,876 Speaker 1: comes over to me and says, have you got the money? 427 00:29:04,396 --> 00:29:07,676 Speaker 1: Have you got the money? In other words, game on 428 00:29:08,436 --> 00:29:11,996 Speaker 1: Roadie still wants to get paid, which means he still 429 00:29:11,996 --> 00:29:16,196 Speaker 1: trusts Bob, which means for the time being, Bob is safe. 430 00:29:16,916 --> 00:29:18,836 Speaker 1: And I was never so happy in my life to 431 00:29:18,876 --> 00:29:22,556 Speaker 1: hear some words. I started counting it out, knowing if 432 00:29:22,556 --> 00:29:24,716 Speaker 1: I'm counting it. You can hear it on tape. When 433 00:29:24,716 --> 00:29:26,956 Speaker 1: you're counting money, you can hear that. And I'm saying one, 434 00:29:27,036 --> 00:29:31,676 Speaker 1: two or three, and I give him the money. So amazingly, 435 00:29:32,116 --> 00:29:35,636 Speaker 1: Bob executes his plan. He gets the bribe on tape. 436 00:29:36,636 --> 00:29:40,636 Speaker 1: But all hell breaks loose when Carol Marine breaks her 437 00:29:40,676 --> 00:29:44,676 Speaker 1: story for Channel five. For years, it has been rumored 438 00:29:44,676 --> 00:29:47,676 Speaker 1: that some of Chicago's most interesting political deals have been 439 00:29:47,676 --> 00:29:50,516 Speaker 1: made at one particular table at a restaurant near City Hall. 440 00:29:50,996 --> 00:29:53,516 Speaker 1: The night is shocking surprise for the movers and shakers 441 00:29:53,556 --> 00:29:56,956 Speaker 1: who sit at that table. Federal agents have been watching 442 00:29:56,996 --> 00:30:00,956 Speaker 1: them through a hidden camera, and Carol has the exclusive details. 443 00:30:01,356 --> 00:30:03,996 Speaker 1: Ron The discovery of the camera seems to have blown 444 00:30:03,996 --> 00:30:06,796 Speaker 1: the lid off part of a major investigation. For more 445 00:30:06,796 --> 00:30:09,516 Speaker 1: than two years, the Federal Strike Force on Organized Crime 446 00:30:09,556 --> 00:30:13,036 Speaker 1: has been looking at Chicago's infamous First Ward. Tonight, the 447 00:30:13,076 --> 00:30:17,356 Speaker 1: story of how part of that investigation has unraveled on camera. 448 00:30:17,596 --> 00:30:21,356 Speaker 1: A lawyer representing the restaurant shows Carol around, takes her 449 00:30:21,356 --> 00:30:23,996 Speaker 1: over to the spot where the camera was concealed. It 450 00:30:24,196 --> 00:30:26,796 Speaker 1: occupied this area right here, Carrol, which is not more 451 00:30:26,836 --> 00:30:29,836 Speaker 1: than a heap of them. The machine itself appeared to 452 00:30:29,876 --> 00:30:33,756 Speaker 1: be a James Bond type device. It was a bus 453 00:30:33,796 --> 00:30:36,676 Speaker 1: boy a few days ago who, in cleaning, lifted the 454 00:30:36,716 --> 00:30:39,076 Speaker 1: seat of this booth, and, to his amazement and the 455 00:30:39,116 --> 00:30:43,276 Speaker 1: amazement of his bosses, discovered a very sophisticated camera setup, 456 00:30:43,556 --> 00:30:47,036 Speaker 1: a camera that was pointed at this corner table commonly 457 00:30:47,076 --> 00:30:50,436 Speaker 1: referred to as the first Ward Table, the table where 458 00:30:50,436 --> 00:30:54,116 Speaker 1: Bob had sat with Pat Marcy many times. Channel five 459 00:30:54,156 --> 00:30:57,196 Speaker 1: News is learned the FBI is not just interested in 460 00:30:57,236 --> 00:31:00,436 Speaker 1: the conversations of those who sit at the First Ward Table, 461 00:31:00,836 --> 00:31:04,516 Speaker 1: that this probe is an examination of far more than that. 462 00:31:05,156 --> 00:31:08,236 Speaker 1: The FBI is looking at gambling in Chinatown, which is 463 00:31:08,316 --> 00:31:11,436 Speaker 1: part of the First Award. It is probing any violations 464 00:31:11,476 --> 00:31:14,636 Speaker 1: of the Hobbs Act, which addresses official corruption, and it 465 00:31:14,756 --> 00:31:20,236 Speaker 1: is investigating attorneys, judges, state employees, and politicians. For Pat 466 00:31:20,276 --> 00:31:22,836 Speaker 1: Marcy and the First Ward guys, this must have been 467 00:31:22,836 --> 00:31:26,316 Speaker 1: like an air raid siren going off. First comes the 468 00:31:26,316 --> 00:31:30,076 Speaker 1: news that their unofficial headquarters Counselor's row has been bugged, 469 00:31:30,396 --> 00:31:33,476 Speaker 1: and now Carol Marine is telling them straight up that 470 00:31:33,516 --> 00:31:40,876 Speaker 1: the FBI is investigating their entire corrupt network. So what 471 00:31:40,916 --> 00:31:43,796 Speaker 1: do you do when you get news like this? I think. 472 00:31:43,916 --> 00:31:47,236 Speaker 1: If you're Pat Marcy, you take a good hard look 473 00:31:47,276 --> 00:31:51,236 Speaker 1: at your own people. You consider the facts, facts like this, 474 00:31:52,076 --> 00:31:55,996 Speaker 1: Bob Cooley just paid Rody a bribe. And if you're 475 00:31:56,036 --> 00:32:00,316 Speaker 1: Pat Marcy, wouldn't you wonder can we really trust Bob? 476 00:32:01,076 --> 00:32:04,156 Speaker 1: And if the answer is no, what are you going 477 00:32:04,196 --> 00:32:09,596 Speaker 1: to do about it? Bob knew his time was almost up, 478 00:32:10,076 --> 00:32:13,636 Speaker 1: but he wasn't ready to walk away just yet. Bob 479 00:32:13,676 --> 00:32:16,676 Speaker 1: wanted to track down his old friend, a judge he 480 00:32:16,716 --> 00:32:19,596 Speaker 1: had ribbed long ago in that murder case that he'd 481 00:32:19,596 --> 00:32:23,876 Speaker 1: fixed involving the hitman. In many ways, fixing that case 482 00:32:24,196 --> 00:32:28,116 Speaker 1: had been Bob's original sin, and he felt, even all 483 00:32:28,196 --> 00:32:34,036 Speaker 1: these years later, that he still had some unfinished business here. Meanwhile, 484 00:32:34,436 --> 00:32:37,676 Speaker 1: Carol Maureene was getting ready to break an even bigger 485 00:32:37,756 --> 00:32:53,916 Speaker 1: story next time on deep Cover. For approximately five years, 486 00:32:53,916 --> 00:32:57,676 Speaker 1: a Chicago lawyer has been a government informant, secretly recording 487 00:32:57,716 --> 00:33:00,876 Speaker 1: conversations with some of this city's movers and shakers. The 488 00:33:00,956 --> 00:33:03,436 Speaker 1: identity of this informant will come as a shock to 489 00:33:03,516 --> 00:33:28,756 Speaker 1: some powerful people. Deep Cover is produced by Jacob Smith 490 00:33:28,876 --> 00:33:32,796 Speaker 1: and Amy Gaines and edited by Karen Shakerjee. Our senior 491 00:33:32,956 --> 00:33:36,156 Speaker 1: editor is Jan Guera original music and our theme was 492 00:33:36,196 --> 00:33:39,516 Speaker 1: composed by Louise Gera and Fawn Williams as our engineer. 493 00:33:39,916 --> 00:33:42,436 Speaker 1: Our art this season was drawn by Cheryl Cook and 494 00:33:42,556 --> 00:33:46,476 Speaker 1: designed by Sean Karney. Mia Lobell is our executive producer. 495 00:33:47,036 --> 00:33:51,676 Speaker 1: Special thanks to Heather Fame, John Schnars, Carlie mcgliori, Maya Kaning, 496 00:33:51,956 --> 00:33:56,956 Speaker 1: Christina Sullivan, Eric Sandler, Mary Beth Smith, Brant Haynes, Maggie Taylor, 497 00:33:57,116 --> 00:34:02,076 Speaker 1: a Coolemarano, Magan Larson, Royston Beserve, Lucy Sullivan, Edith Russlo, 498 00:34:02,436 --> 00:34:07,796 Speaker 1: Riley Sullivan, Jason Gambrel, Martin Gonzalez, and Jacob Weisberg. I'm 499 00:34:07,876 --> 00:34:56,356 Speaker 1: Jake Albert. Subscribe to Pushkin Plus and you can binge 500 00:34:56,396 --> 00:34:59,796 Speaker 1: the rest of the season right now adds free. Find 501 00:34:59,836 --> 00:35:02,596 Speaker 1: Pushkin Plus on the deep cover show page in Apple 502 00:35:02,676 --> 00:35:07,996 Speaker 1: Podcasts or at pushkin dot fm. 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