1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Stramp on the boots and scrape up the knuckles on ahead. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 2: He got jacked. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 3: This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 3: and Gilbert Terry's. 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 4: Gonna score touchdown Swam to the ground by Buddha Baker 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 4: Like a torpedo, he keeps flying into the back deal. 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: The Rage is brought to you by santan Ford and 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 3: Gilbert right on the price, right on the corner of 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 3: the sand Tan two to two Freeway. 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 4: In Valves WAA Crab by Tray McBride. 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: That was spectacular and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast Visit Azycardinals 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 3: dot Com, Slash Podcast. 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: All Red Seas Rising Ard. 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 4: Jimpit Rising Vision, Blurry Rage, take it over. 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: Here's Paul Calvic. 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 5: I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 5: I'm ready. 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: And Ron Wolfley. It doesn't get any better than that. 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 6: Lesh the field. 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 5: You know what, who cares what happened in the stock 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 5: market today or stay since COVID, because you know what, 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 5: there was at least one man, at least one Arizona 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 5: Cardinal who made a lot of money today hashtag Trey 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 5: Mick paid. In fact, we're here on the Big Red 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 5: Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 5: Ford to take your mind off your four oh one 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 5: k and talk a little football. Paul calvic Ron Wolfley Wolf. 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 5: We've got a big man signing. We've got the biggest 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 5: tight end contract in NFL history. We've got a big 30 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 5: time guest and former Cardinals d lineman Frosty Rucker. 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 7: But we'll start with. 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 5: A big headline from earlier today because not much news 33 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 5: can trump the big man Kalais Campbell signing on the 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 5: line that has dotted, I mean returning to the Arizona Cardinals. 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 5: But we got it late this afternoon. Tight end Trey 36 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 5: McBride a four year extension through the twenty twenty nine season. 37 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 5: He is now the highest paid tight in on an 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 5: average annual basis in NFL history. How about that? 39 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: That's huge, Paully, Are you gonna do it? Are you 40 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 2: gonna do the big big bag? Are you gonna do it? 41 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 8: Nil? 42 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: No, because it is a big deal today is a 43 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: big deal for the Arizona Cardinals. A couple of moves 44 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: that we're going to get into, of course, with Trey McBride, 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: the stud tight end that he is, This is this 46 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: signing happened? Because he is a true stud tight end. 47 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: He's a y tight end. He's a guy you can 48 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 2: line up on the tackles hip and you can run 49 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: the ball behind him. Because Trey McBride has worked super 50 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: hard to become a very good blocking tight end in 51 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: the NFL. He's very very close with George Kittle, of course, 52 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: and Kittle I think has had a big impact on 53 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: Trey McBride. I'm just really really encouraged for this young 54 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: guy because Paulie, when you can go eleven personnel, and 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: I've said this to you before, but it's the truth 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: and it bears repeating, when you can line up with 57 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: three hysid receivers, a tight end and a running back 58 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: eleven personnel on first and ten second and one to 59 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: six and run down situation. When you can do that 60 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: and run the ball and stay balanced as an offense, 61 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: not just throw the ball with three wide receivers out there, 62 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: but run the ball and run it in a physical 63 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 2: kind of way north south, attacking the line of scrimmage. 64 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: When you can actually do that as an offense, you've 65 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: got a big advantage if you can actually remain balanced, 66 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: just like the forty nine ers were doing when they 67 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: were super good a couple of years ago. They could 68 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: go eleven personnel and they did it often, and it 69 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: was very difficult to stop them. I'm wondering if we 70 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: might see the same evolution with the Cardinals here in 71 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. 72 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 5: You know, that's a good point. That's a good name 73 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 5: drop on George Kittle. In fact, when Drey McBride goes 74 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 5: to tight end you this year, right, he's gonna have 75 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 5: to pick up a few dinner checks. I'm just saying 76 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 5: that right here, right now. I mean, he he sets 77 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 5: the tight end market. Four years, seventy six million dollar extension, 78 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 5: forty three million guaranteed is average annual salary about nineteen 79 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 5: million per under contract through twenty twenty nine. And maybe 80 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 5: here's the best part. Wolf he's twenty five. He doesn't 81 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 5: turn twenty six until November. I mean, he's got the 82 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 5: best hands on the team. He has serious upsides still, 83 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 5: And that's not just us. That is Kyler Murray, who 84 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 5: was asked late in the season, right early January, about 85 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 5: Trey McBride and his future. 86 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, he can be which is you know, it's saying 87 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 6: a lot, you know, He's a beast. He's a beef. 88 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 6: I'll say I'll say it every time. I think he's 89 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 6: the best in the league. And he'll only continue to 90 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 6: get better as we get better together. 91 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 5: And that was a question, can he get better? And 92 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 5: it was an absolute definitive yes from Kyler Murray. And 93 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 5: you agree immediately with Kyler. I mean you see it. 94 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 5: You saw him get better over the course of the year, 95 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 5: did you not. 96 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, there's no doubt about it, PAULI, Yeah, I 97 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: totally agree with what Kyler is saying right there. What's 98 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: really cool. He is the highest paid tight end in 99 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: the National Football League right now. And as soon as 100 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: you say that, you have to think of George Kittle. Yep, 101 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 2: you have to think of Kittle and I compare and 102 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: contrast those two guys, because you can stop and think 103 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: about that for a minute, just the fact that Trey McBride, 104 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: even before he signed this contract, you could compare and 105 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: contrast George Kittle and Trey McBride. And when you do 106 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: that comparison, and we've talked a little bit about it 107 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 2: in the past, paually, but I think George Kittle is 108 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: still a little bit better of a run blocker than 109 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: Trey McBride agreed, And I think that Trey McBride is, 110 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: believe it or not a little bit better route runner 111 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: and receiver than George Kittle to me. And that kind 112 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: of makes it a little bit of a wash right there, 113 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 2: because I also think this, and this is what's fascinating. 114 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: George Kittle redefined how a tight end was supposed to 115 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: run the ball after the catch. George Kittle did that. 116 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 2: You watch you look at him, go back and look 117 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: at his highlight tape, Polly, George Kittle after he gets 118 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: the ball in his hand, runs like a madman. Guess what, 119 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: Trey McBride might be better than Kittle and running after 120 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: the catch. That's saying an awful lot. 121 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 5: And you know what, that record he set most receptions 122 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 5: by a tight end in their first three seasons in 123 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 5: NFL history. He broke George Kittle's record. So think about 124 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 5: this as well. You go, he only had twenty nine 125 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 5: catches as a rookie. He didn't really get significant playing time. 126 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 5: It wasn't a primary target till the zach Ertz injury 127 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 5: midway through his second year. So he has two hundred 128 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 5: and twenty one career receptions and basically a season and 129 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 5: a half for all intents and purposes. Last year a 130 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 5: buck eleven in terms of receptions, which by the way, 131 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 5: more catches than Larry Fitzgerald ever, had fourth best tight 132 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 5: end reception season ever. He had the two receiving touchdowns 133 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 5: at the very end, had a rushing Touchdow had a 134 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 5: fumble recovery touchdown. I had him for four hurdles. I 135 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 5: don't know if it was three or four, but he 136 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 5: had four ridiculous hurdles. So there's all that, And we're 137 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 5: going to get into more of Trey McBride a little 138 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 5: bit later. We know he's smiling, Wolf. I think you've 139 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 5: been smiling all week, just like me when the news 140 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 5: broke man that Coaleuis Campbell is returning to the Arizona Cardinals. 141 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 5: And just to set things in perspective here, especially on 142 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 5: The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert 143 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 5: Let's Flashback Our, jim O Mahundra went into his extensive archives. 144 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 5: This is his final show after the twenty sixteen season. 145 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 5: It wasn't official yet, but we asked him, what if 146 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 5: if this is indeed your last show? If this is 147 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 5: indeed your last show, and this is your last season 148 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 5: as an Arizona Cardinal. I mean, you'd like to say 149 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 5: to the Red Sea. 150 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate the love, you know, and I understand. 151 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 7: You know, you guys really want to be back, you know, 152 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 7: and I really want to be back. You know, It's 153 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 7: been unbelievable Riot. The last nine ers have been amazing, 154 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 7: and I'm really I've been blessed. I played a game 155 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 7: I love at a high level and I've been dreaming 156 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 7: of this moment since I was, you know, six ors old, 157 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 7: since I can remember. Really, you know, all of them 158 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 7: want to do is play in the NFL for a 159 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 7: great franchise. And you know, this has really been home. 160 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 7: And I appreciate the Burg game, the rest Sea, that 161 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 7: miss all from. 162 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 5: What do you like most? What do you like most 163 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 5: about this signing and the return of Kalais Campbell Just. 164 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: The fact that it's Kalais Campbell and he's back, Paulie, 165 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: It's incredible. The person, it's an amazing thing. What an 166 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: unbelievable career, I think, a Hall of Fame career by 167 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 2: Kalayis Campbell, and what a great football player he's been 168 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: for so long and if you look at all the 169 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 2: games that he has played in, just an incredible amount 170 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: of games. There were two seasons he missed twelve or 171 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: he missed four four games in five games in two 172 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 2: different seasons, Paulie, and that pretty much has been it 173 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: for Khalayis. He's a stud through and through and to 174 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: see him get rewarded and be able to come back 175 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: to the team in which he built his career nine 176 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 2: years with the Arizona Cardinals eye this is a dream. 177 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: You and I have talked about it in the offseason. 178 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: We thought we allowed ourselves to just imagine what that 179 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: would be like if Kalais came back on a one 180 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: year deal. And sure enough, it. 181 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 5: Happened second half of the Cardinals game at Miami this year. 182 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 5: I don't know if you remember. It was during a 183 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 5: commercial break and I was talking to you guys from 184 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 5: the sideline and I'm like, look at big ninety three. Yes, 185 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 5: the trade deadline is in less than a week. What if? 186 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 5: What if the Cardinals? Because of the Cardinals injuries in 187 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 5: the defensive line room, it made a lot of sense. 188 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 5: And then later later in the season it came out 189 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 5: Cardinals were one of the teams that made that phone 190 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 5: call to the Dolphins and kick the tires. And you 191 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 5: know what, even better, they don't have to give up 192 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 5: like a Day three pick. They just go and they 193 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 5: sign him five point five million guaranteed a max of 194 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 5: seven point five on the deal, so he gets serious money. 195 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 5: But well beyond just you know the look, he's a 196 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 5: guy who started seventeen games each of the last two years. 197 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 5: He can still yes, play, but what do you think 198 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 5: he does for the locker room and the young d 199 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 5: lineman in that room? 200 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: Just incredible, Bully, I mean, just to have a guy 201 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: like that, a mentor like that inside of the locker room. 202 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: And here's the great thing about it. A lot of times, Paully, 203 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: when a veteran gets older, he doesn't want a mentor 204 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: young guys. He doesn't want to help young guys take 205 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: his position. That's not Kaleis Campbell. And you know that 206 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: he is going to be a mentor to all of 207 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: these young guys, and PAULI, I'm not just talking about 208 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: the young guys like Darius Robinson in the defensive line room. 209 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking I'm talking about on the entire team. 210 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: Kaleis Campbell has that kind of cred. He has that 211 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: kind of regard and respect inside the locker room where 212 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: he can speak into the life of these young guys 213 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: and their professional career. He can do it on and 214 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: off the field, and it's going to matter to these 215 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: young guys. This is this is a There is not 216 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: a downside at all to Kalais Campbell coming back and 217 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 2: being an Arizona Cardinal and we're all going to have 218 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: a front row seat. 219 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 5: He showed up in Miami last year as a newcomer 220 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 5: and was immediately voted a team captain. Yeah, yeah, and 221 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 5: I just remember down on this sideline. I mean just 222 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 5: the reverence Cardinals players had. You know, there was Paris 223 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 5: Johnson Junior immediately referring to him as the og like 224 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 5: during a TV timeout. So, yes, his reputation precedes him. 225 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 5: And now he's going to be in that room. And 226 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 5: remember what Jag said about assessing what happened after the 227 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 5: bye and some of this might be leadership, so we'll 228 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 5: get more into that. In fact, nobody better than to 229 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 5: talk about leadership than Frosty Rutger. We've got a show 230 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 5: bigger than a six foot eight defensive lineman. It is 231 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 5: the big Red rage. Frosty is next all presented by 232 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 5: Santan Ford in Gilbert. 233 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: Oh Man. Clawson tried to hand it off and he 234 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 4: got tackled by Frosty Rutgers. 235 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: He dropped bat Look at the veteran attack the eight camp. 236 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: How about that for some get off hand it. 237 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 4: Off to hide off the right side and he has 238 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 4: fun down in the backfield. Frosty Rucker was there first 239 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: for Arizona, handed off to Cunning him off the right 240 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 4: side and he is ripped down at the eighteen by Rucker. 241 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: Wo Frosty Er, Frosty, such a wily veteran. 242 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 4: Kaepernick takes the shotgun snap short set, steps up and 243 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: sick by Frosty Rucker. And Rucker such an underrated player. 244 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 4: And they wouldn't be where they are defensively without that 245 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 4: guy bumble the ball. The Cardinals say they haven't. It 246 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: was Frosty Rucker that hacked it out. 247 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: That wasn't hacking, that was blood permit. 248 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 4: Kalas Campbell recovers and the Cardinals get a huge takeaway. 249 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 5: And I'll tell you what A lot more talk about 250 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 5: Kalis Campbell coming up right signing on for an eighteen 251 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 5: in a lot more talk still to come about Trey 252 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 5: McBride and now the highest paid tight end in NFL history. 253 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 5: But Ron Wolfley, when of your all time favorite dudes? 254 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: I know it. 255 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 5: We've had him on the Big Red Rage before. I 256 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 5: know the respect you have for this man. Realize he 257 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 5: played thirteen years in the NFL himself, And if we 258 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 5: want to raise the IQ around here, let's face it 259 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 5: goes well beyond the two of us. We got to 260 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 5: outsource it. So we welcome in Frosty Rucker on the 261 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 5: Big Rage. How we doing, Frosty? 262 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 8: Oh man, I love it. I'm good. I'm good, just 263 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 8: so good to hear you guys' voice. Theres a lot 264 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 8: of exciting stuff going on, no doubt. 265 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 5: You know what can we start there? As a guy 266 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 5: who played thirteen years, Kalaiis is going into his eighteenth year. Wow, 267 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 5: can you put into perspective just the longevity aspect of it, 268 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 5: especially a guy who started all seventeen games each of 269 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 5: the last two seasons. 270 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 8: What we're witnessing is a DEMI God. I think this 271 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 8: guy is a incredible talent. I don't think we've given 272 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 8: him as much respect for how well he takes care 273 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 8: of himself, how great of an athlete he is just 274 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 8: because he's so big, he's great on his feet. Even 275 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 8: in his older age, he's powerful. I mean, I can 276 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 8: keep going on his leadership skills in the community, on 277 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 8: what he can do for that organization, what he's already done, 278 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 8: and I think it's the right time for Kalays Campbell. 279 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 8: He'll be back in that building. 280 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: Frosty though, it just seems so incredible that a guy 281 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: could play in the NFL trenches for eighteen years. It's 282 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: to me it is really truly stunning. I know we've 283 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: seen it before in the past. I understand that, but man, 284 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: for a guy like yourself who played a long time 285 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: as well in the National Football League, it's got to 286 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: be quite the feat. You don't see this very often. 287 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's a determination because you cannot escape 288 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 8: knowing that there's bumps and bruises and and all that. 289 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 8: You know, you can't ever diminish what he has to 290 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 8: get through to get through practice. And we're talking about 291 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 8: a guy that practice is hard. You know, I've only 292 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 8: heard great things as he's gotten older. He never took 293 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 8: himself out of practice. He was always out there working 294 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 8: and that's just who he is. It's his character and 295 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 8: you know, couldn't be more proud of a human being 296 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 8: to be where he is and what he's accomplished and 297 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 8: what is out in front of him. It's a Hall 298 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 8: of Fame type of player. Definitely a Hall of Fame 299 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 8: fame type of player, and he needs the Super Bowl 300 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 8: to go with it. 301 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 5: Former Cardinals defensive lineman Frosty Rucker our guest here on 302 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 5: The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. 303 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 5: I heard a couple of Dolphins beat writers say that 304 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 5: he was the one guy in the roster last year 305 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 5: that held everyone else accountable in that locker room. How 306 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 5: big a deal is that, especially when you have young 307 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 5: guys like you know, first round or last year Darius 308 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 5: Robinson on the D line, Dante Stills. I mean, what 309 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 5: kind of respected og like Kalais do for a young 310 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 5: d lineman in particular, Well. 311 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 8: They get the best of all for us, because they're 312 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 8: going to get a guy that can back it up. 313 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 8: He has a tape the show and he's going to 314 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 8: show them by his work ethic and you know, again 315 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 8: he's a guy that you always have to try to 316 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 8: pull off the field. So they get firsthand. I'm sure 317 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 8: Calay is right now. His mental aspect of football is 318 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 8: out of this world. The concepts he's seen, the schemes, 319 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 8: the blocking that you know, he's been a guy that 320 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 8: has been a double team, triple team type of player 321 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 8: on that football field. And these guys are going to 322 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 8: be able to witness it, and you know, the tape, 323 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 8: the film and the study, it's going to be all 324 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 8: there and they have nothing but to win out of 325 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 8: this scenario. And these guys should be running through a 326 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 8: wall for Klays. 327 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: Whatever he says, Frosty, give me your state of the 328 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: game of football right now. As long as you've played 329 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: in the league, I know you love the sport as 330 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: well as you look at the game of football right now, 331 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 2: give me the state of football as you see it. 332 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 8: I think it's it's trending in a positive nature, despite 333 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 8: you know the groans that people have every offseason. You know, 334 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 8: you know, it's it's a shame the push is getting 335 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 8: as much publicity as it is in my opinion, because heck, 336 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 8: it's just like goal line offense defense. You know, when 337 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 8: you got three tight ends in there, I remember that. 338 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 8: You know, have you ever thought about being tied in 339 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 8: on field goal when they send three or four people 340 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 8: at you, Like, what's the difference here? You know you 341 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 8: have to stop it at some point, and that's football. 342 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 8: But uh yeah, I think it's trending in the right direction. 343 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 8: I think we we we sat. We got to see 344 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 8: a bat One's attack last year of football. Good defensive 345 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 8: minded coaches, you know that. You know, the Eagles put 346 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 8: on a show in that Super Bowl and it was 347 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 8: all about up front and obviously I love that how 348 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 8: they built that roster. And again, I think football is 349 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 8: training the right way. If there's anything to change, it 350 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 8: would just be uh, loosen up some of these infractions 351 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 8: and defenders. 352 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 5: Yes, what's it like to be at the epicenter of 353 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 5: what you know, the equivalent of a toush push fourth 354 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 5: and one quarterback sneak. Because you've been there and done that, 355 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 5: low man wins. But what's it like to be in 356 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 5: the middle of all that humanity? 357 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 8: Oh, there's a lot going on. You know, it's a 358 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 8: car accident, and I understand the safety precautions behind it, 359 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 8: but that's football, you know, it's you don't see the 360 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 8: guys with the bloody knuckles anymore and stuff out of 361 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 8: football like that, and this is one of those plays 362 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 8: that you get that fill. You know, look at how 363 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 8: they changed the kickoff return right over the years. It 364 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 8: went from a wedge and then went from now you 365 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 8: don't even have one basically, right. So it's the involvement 366 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 8: of what the game is going to be and it's 367 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 8: gonna look, let. 368 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 5: Me ask you about you know, building from the inside out. 369 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 5: I'll do what I do best. I'll ask the dumb 370 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 5: guy question. You just mentioned the Eagles, right, all five 371 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 5: of their offensive linemen got all Pro votes. They obviously 372 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 5: had the most talented defensive front in the league, they 373 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 5: got after Mahomes. Do you think more teams now are 374 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 5: going to build from the inside out since you know 375 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 5: it's known as a copycat league. 376 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's a trend, right, it's a trendy thing. 377 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 8: Sometimes you know, you get other positions that are you know, 378 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 8: the most valuable. But we all know if the league 379 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 8: is an offensive league, they want to see points. They 380 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 8: want to now see celebrations and all that. You know, 381 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 8: you got to get to the quarterback. You got to 382 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 8: stop this stuff. So before you know, it's going to 383 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 8: change again and shift and it's going to be more 384 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 8: on the opposite side, because heck, they want more games. 385 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 8: That means more guys are going to be a little 386 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 8: bit more worn out, you know, maybe a little bit 387 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 8: less physical, and you know that's where it's headed. 388 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 2: So frost A, I know that you have a relationship 389 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: with Pete Carroll, your former college coach at USC Pete 390 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: Carroll getting another gig at the age of seventy three 391 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: with the Raiders. Your thoughts on that. 392 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 8: I think it's great. I think age is just a 393 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 8: number for coach Carol. I think his enthusiasm towards the game, 394 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 8: how smart and determined and passionate is about it, it 395 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 8: can transcend. He takes great care of himself. We haven't 396 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 8: heard much about, you know, health and wellness. Let's knock 397 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 8: on wood about any of that. He's sharp as attack 398 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 8: and I think you know, he only took a breather off. 399 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 8: It's just one season. Mike crag yep, yep. Yeah. So 400 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 8: he's still in there. He's probably still looking at players. 401 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 8: He probably you know, was just waiting for his opportunity. 402 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 8: He never said he was going to completely walk away 403 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 8: from it. And he's right back in there. So with 404 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 8: the right energy, and you know, you know what atmosphere 405 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 8: he's going to be able to be involved in this. 406 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 8: It's almost like s the ten point zero. You know, 407 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 8: we were in La and now he's in Vegas. He 408 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 8: has a light and you know there's no extra benefits 409 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 8: now all these guys get paid, so it should be. 410 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 8: I think it's a good fit. Him and Tom Brady 411 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 8: h going back and forth on you know, personnel and 412 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 8: you know schemes and whatnot. I'm just waiting to see 413 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 8: how it plays out in September. 414 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 5: I'm always amazed how he holds guys accountable because there 415 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 5: he was again at the owner's meetings right earlier. This 416 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 5: week he's in shorts and flip flops and he's got 417 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 5: that whole coach double rainbow vibe going. And how is 418 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 5: he behind the scenes and how does he get the 419 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 5: best out of grown men? 420 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 8: Well, I think it's just something about being competitive, and 421 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 8: he's a competitive guy and he's given you everything yet 422 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 8: he has and he asked a lot from his staff 423 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 8: and as far as when you know you can gain 424 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 8: that extra yard here and there, and you know, the 425 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 8: little aspects of the game to push it. And he's 426 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 8: a motivator right, and guys want to get behind that. 427 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 8: People want to be encouraged, you know, not to complain 428 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 8: about football, but to say, to go through a season, 429 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 8: it's hard and it's you know, it's grueling on your 430 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 8: body and your mind and trying to you know, stay healthy. 431 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 8: And a guy that's going to make sure to tell 432 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 8: you you have another gear every day and demand it 433 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 8: of you. You just push and these guys are trained 434 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 8: enough for it and they can do it. The mind's 435 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 8: a beautiful thing when you get conditioned for it, and 436 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 8: it is brings that organization. 437 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 2: Yes it is frosty, no doubt about it. It's you know, 438 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: for me, and I think you feel the same way. 439 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: Playing the game of football is done on the line 440 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: of scrimmage. That that is what football is all about. 441 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: I loved it. I believe you loved it as well. 442 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts on the Bengals paying two 443 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 2: huge deals to wide receivers Jamar Chase and t Higgins. 444 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: What do you think of that? 445 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 8: I think enough public pressure has gotten them in that position, 446 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 8: not to say all the contracts weren't warranted. I think 447 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 8: you will be probably seeing a big time train in 448 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 8: the year or two, right, someone taking that on. There's 449 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 8: no way, but you know it's good that you know, 450 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 8: a team did with technically everyone wants to see them 451 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 8: do and that stick by their guys, the guys that 452 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 8: show up bus their tail, you know, and that's where 453 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 8: you're supposed to get rewarded. So they did it. You know, 454 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 8: what it does with the franchise is up in the air. 455 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 8: You know. 456 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 5: So one of your longtime teammates, Carson Palmer right, both 457 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 5: college and pro, but now he's the head coach at 458 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 5: his alma mater in high school. Did he reach out 459 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 5: to you to be his DC? Because I know you've 460 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 5: done some coaching here and there. I ran into you 461 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 5: at the airport a couple of years ago. You're on 462 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 5: your way to a coaching camp. You're doing anything of 463 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 5: that anymore. 464 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 8: I still do the coaching camp, and no, I'm actually 465 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 8: visiting Carson in a week. I'm going to practice. And 466 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 8: like you said, we go all the way back from 467 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 8: high school. 468 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 2: Wow. 469 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 8: And it was kind of like a rivalry who played 470 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 8: each other in the high school championship game my freshman 471 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 8: year he was a senior and they did win. And 472 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 8: it's been a big deal and considered one of the 473 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 8: best games in Orange County history. It was Sean Foster 474 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 8: playing tailback, Carson Palmer playing quarterback, and it was it 475 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 8: was phenomenon. They call it the best high school football 476 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 8: game in Orange County. So knowing him all the way 477 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 8: from there and stepping into that world in that locker room, 478 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 8: it's going to be something different for me. But you 479 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 8: know it's Carson. That's a brother. You guys know how 480 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 8: I feel about him. This opportunity for him is just 481 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 8: grand to be at his alma mater, to lead those 482 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 8: guys out on the field and in this game and 483 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 8: age when kids can transfer. He's out of private school, 484 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 8: so you know, he's got his own free agency that 485 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 8: he can kind of try to do and he has 486 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 8: enough resources, so it should be special. He has to 487 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 8: play versus modern day survey. He's in that league, so yeah, 488 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 8: you know I'm here for it. 489 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Frosty, I have to I have to ask you this, 490 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: Who's the best three technique in the NFL right now? 491 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: As you see it? Whoa whoa? 492 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 8: Oh, Chris Jones. He's he's been salted the last five years. 493 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 8: Seems like I would say he's the most dominant one. 494 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 8: I'll tell you that him, I like, uh, you got 495 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 8: you gotta go with these guys from Philly. I can't 496 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 8: give the younger guys, even though they're playing well, I 497 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 8: can't give them, you know, the title yet. 498 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 5: But Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis. 499 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I. 500 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 8: Mean there are obviously phenomenal players. I just can't put 501 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 8: them all the way up there yet. So you have 502 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 8: to go with Chris. That was a great call. I 503 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 8: think you have to go with him just because his 504 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 8: age and the production and like to say, let's see 505 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 8: what position K played, but he was a bad dude 506 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 8: at the three technique. 507 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 5: Yes, we can't wait to run into Clays. I've been 508 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 5: smiling all week and I can't wait to tell him 509 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 5: that that we were, that we spoke to you, okay, 510 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 5: and I'll tell him that that that fumble recovery we 511 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 5: heard you caused him. 512 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 8: What's that? Getting phone calls and tags? And I told 513 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 8: everyone I'm coming back to the scenic too, so you know, 514 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 8: I don't know where I'm going to get in and 515 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 8: fit in, but you know, they it's the package bill. 516 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 8: That's how we do ninety three, you know. So that's great. 517 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 5: Frosty. We appreciate it, We really do. Thanks for the time, 518 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 5: Thanks for the insight. 519 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 8: Always, and everyone in the valley. Let's go. This is 520 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 8: the year. It's going to be better. 521 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 5: There you go, Frosty Rucker. Everyone and I got the 522 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 5: acronym wrong. It's not DC, it's VC's in the venture 523 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 5: capital these days. So all the best him. We'll come back. 524 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 5: We'll talk more about Kalaias Campbell. That first, Trey mcpaid 525 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 5: as we continue the big Red Rage presented by Santan 526 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 5: Ford in Gilbert. 527 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 4: Murray under center and takes the snap and it's a 528 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 4: gent sweet here side McBride sniff farming, getting close to 529 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 4: the goal line. Touch down. Trey McBride on the hand off. 530 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: McBride is so good running the. 531 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 4: Football, looking deep left, throwing, McBride laying out and making 532 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 4: a great catch at the thirty eight, sliding to the 533 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 4: ground there pot by McBride wrapped up Croke and tackled 534 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 4: off and then he hurdles a defender in the forty 535 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 4: that was drunk ass. 536 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: You can't control. 537 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 4: Trey McBride looking deep left, throwing and between four jets, 538 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 4: the ball is caught by Trey McBride. 539 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 2: Trey McBride. You are a bad, bad man. Are you 540 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 2: kidding me? 541 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 5: What's the old saying? Those who do it best make 542 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 5: it look easy any profession right, And doesn't Trey McBride 543 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 5: just look like a complete natural. He is so fluid, 544 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 5: he is so ultra competitive. And now guess what, as 545 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 5: I saw, bj Ojelori tweeted out, Trey, you earned it, 546 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 5: and he is now the highest paid NFL tight end ever. 547 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 5: I mean, look at Travis Kelce seventeen a year, TJ. 548 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 5: Hockinson sixteen point five, George Kittle fifteen a year, Dallas 549 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 5: Goddard fourteen and change, Mark Andrews fourteen even and Trey McBride. 550 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 5: McBride mcbraakes the bank nineteen million per year. He is 551 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 5: under contract through the twenty twenty nine season, and once again, 552 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 5: he is aged twenty five. And well, yes, I know, 553 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 5: if you here wolf you'd ask him what his weight is. 554 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 5: But other than that, you tell us about McBride, and 555 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 5: what's what's the thing. Maybe I don't know you're looking 556 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 5: forward to the most as his career continues to evolve. 557 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: It's really the versatility of Trey McBride that I love. 558 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: It really is, Paully I already talked a little bit 559 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: about eleven personnel and the fact that you can line 560 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: him up as a true stud tight end and you 561 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 2: can go out there on first and ten second, one 562 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: to six and you can attack line of scrimmage, you 563 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: can run the ball, you can do it in a downhill, 564 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: very physical kind of way away from Trey McBride or 565 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: right over his back. He can do that, and he's 566 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: already proven he can do that. But what I love 567 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: is the versatility of Trey McBride. Drew Petsing, of course, 568 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: as we all know, loves twelve personnel one back two 569 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 2: tight ends. He loves thirteen personnel as well, Polly one 570 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 2: back three tight ends. The fact that you can take 571 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: Trey McBride and you can make him the move tight 572 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: end as well. Bring in tip Ryan tip Ryman. I'm 573 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: expecting him to make a huge, huge jump into his 574 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: second year. If you want to bring in tip Ryman 575 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: as the true why the stud tight end, you bring 576 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: him in, He's gonna be fine. And then you've got 577 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: the move tight end, and that is Trey McBride, and 578 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: Trey can move and suddenly, are you in twelve personnel 579 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: or are you in eleven personnel, because are you going 580 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 2: to count that, Are you going to count Trey McBride 581 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: as a wide receiver or is a tight end. That's 582 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: what a defensive coordinator has got to do in that situation, 583 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: and that brings versatility to the Arizona Cardinals, and I 584 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: love that. 585 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 5: Once again, the first Cardinals tight end to make a 586 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 5: Pro Bowl since Hall of Famer Jackie Smith nineteen seventy. 587 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 5: And as he was putting together a record season, it 588 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 5: was mid season October at twenty four and Kyler Murray 589 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 5: was just asked about McBride and whether he can be 590 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 5: among the best in the NFL. 591 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 6: Trace has got a great feel, you know, obviously being 592 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 6: a tight end and having a little leeway to do 593 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 6: things his way now and a lot of confidence, you know, 594 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 6: his ability along with the field that he's gained throughout 595 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 6: these years. I think sky's the limit for Trey. I think, 596 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 6: you know, he can be one of the best in 597 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 6: the league. I love going to work with him every day. 598 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 5: And he said more than once in front of his 599 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 5: locker that you know it was a process gaining his 600 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 5: confidence at the NFL level. You really saw it in 601 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 5: year two once Zach Ertz went down and he was 602 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 5: the man, and his confidence would just grow week after 603 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 5: week to the point where he came in this year. 604 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 5: He expected so much of himself. I mean, I'll just 605 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 5: give you a snapshot from the sideline when he doesn't 606 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 5: make a catch, which is really rare. Yeah, he had 607 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 5: one of the best target to catch ratios in the 608 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 5: NFL period this last year. But when a play isn't made, 609 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 5: and most of the time it's because the ball is 610 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 5: off target, right, it's not him making drops. I mean 611 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 5: he's really hard on himself on the sideline. And we 612 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 5: know how he loves to talk. I mean he trash 613 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 5: talks with Buddha during practice, right and in camp. I 614 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 5: mean he's trash talking Fred Warner, who can't cover him, 615 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 5: by the way, how infectious is that wolf? When you 616 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 5: get a guy that competitive on the. 617 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: Field, Oh yeah, no, Paully, I mean it is. For 618 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: most people. Football is a very in your face kind 619 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: of game, and trash talking comes with it. Now, there 620 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: are some masterful trash talkers, of course, that never costs. 621 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: They never they're never profane, and yet they are ripping 622 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: you beyond belief. There's been there's been some really really 623 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: good NFL players in terms of doing that. But having 624 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: said that, PAULI once again, the thing that excites me 625 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: the most is the versatility of Trey McBride and the 626 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: fact that Kyler Murray is going to continue to develop 627 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 2: this chemistry with Trey McBride and Paul. The best thing 628 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: about it is when you throw Tray the ball, the 629 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 2: best part is coming. It's not just the catch. It's 630 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: not just that he's going to be in the right place. 631 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: It's not that he's going to be open. It's not 632 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: that he's going to run the right route. For a 633 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 2: quarterback like Kyler Murray, one of the reasons why you 634 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: want to get him the ball is because the best 635 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: part is coming after he catches the ball. He's a 636 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: very good open field runner. The physicality that he brings 637 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: in athleticism is off the charts. We're talking about he's 638 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 2: like George Kittle, only a little bit more athletic. 639 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 5: And he told us more than once in the Big 640 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 5: Red Rage over the last couple of years that he 641 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 5: had a college coach that was all over him who 642 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 5: was relentless you should never go down in first contact, 643 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 5: and he just developed this mentality that I'm catching the ball. 644 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 5: I'm going to break down. I'm going to become James 645 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 5: Connor after. You know, I'm just going to bust tackles 646 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 5: left and right. It's going to take more than one 647 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 5: dude to bring me down. And so you knew going 648 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 5: into the last year of his rookie contract after putting 649 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 5: a Pro Bowl campaign together that Manti asin for this 650 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 5: has become his way. You know, he got ahead of 651 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 5: it and got a deal done with Buddha Baker, got 652 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 5: a deal done with James Connor, and there he was 653 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 5: at the combine two months ago in Indianapolis and he expressed, 654 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 5: you know, his desire to keep Trey McBride in the 655 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 5: Azy Treys. 656 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 9: A guy that does everything the right way. He's a 657 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 9: good leader for us on and off the field. He works, 658 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 9: he prepares, and he produces and so you know, Trey 659 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 9: is definitely a guy that we want to continue to 660 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 9: be in our program and continue to see what he 661 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 9: can do for us offensively. 662 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: And he's totally interesting. Paulli. It just I got to 663 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: jump in here, really interesting because we all know Mani 664 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: asin Fort and JG. They love they love a two 665 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,239 Speaker 2: year window on a they love having that whether it's 666 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: a draft pick or a guy they're bringing in as 667 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: a free agent, whatever it is, they like that two 668 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: year window. You go ahead and you show us in 669 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: two years, you show up the first year, how much 670 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 2: better do you actually get in this second year? They 671 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 2: love that two year window. And when you think about it, man, 672 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: the two years of Trey McBride and his ascension, that 673 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 2: arrow continues to point up, and I think that had 674 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 2: an awful lot to do with his signing. 675 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 5: You know, you look at the division, right, I mentioned 676 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 5: Fred Warner. Fred Warner cannot cover Trey McBride. I absolutely torch. 677 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 2: And he's as good as it gets. 678 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 5: Yes, I mean, if I'm Kyle Shanahan, if I mean, 679 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 5: if I'm Sean McVeigh, if I'm Mike McDonald up in Seattle, 680 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 5: I'm telling my defensive coordinators you better figure something out 681 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 5: this offseason to check eighty five, because he had three 682 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 5: games with a dozen or more catches, which is an 683 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 5: all time NFL record for tight ends. I mean there 684 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 5: were games where he just went off and defenses had 685 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 5: no way answer because the linebacker couldn't check him. And 686 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 5: then you put a corner or safety on him and 687 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 5: you know what, Tray's just too big. He gets his 688 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 5: body in between and it's just I'm really curious if 689 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 5: there's going to be a new game plan, especially within 690 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 5: the division for number eighty five next season. 691 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure there's going to be. But the best 692 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 2: part about it is he's going to be ready for it. 693 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: And he's going to be ready for it because of 694 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 2: two things, Polly that I love with Trey. He's humble 695 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 2: and he's hungry. Those two things right there. I love 696 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 2: the fact this is a guy that continues to be 697 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 2: one of his harshest critics will look at himself. This 698 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: is a guy that is humble and it's going to 699 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 2: get better and better and better because he knows that 700 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: he's been gifted an awful lot, all this talent that 701 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: he has and now being rewarded for that. Trey is 702 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: the type of guy and you know him. He's a humble, 703 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 2: down to earth guy and he wants to get better. 704 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons why he takes pride in 705 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: blocking to begin with. But he's also hungry, and you 706 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 2: got to feed these guys who get hungry. 707 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, By the way, he was the 708 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 5: Cardinals Walter Payton Man of the Year nominations twenty twenty 709 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 5: four illustrate your point. Just this sort of person he is, 710 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 5: how competitive he is, the standard he sets in that 711 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 5: locker room. I mean, just how he's like a big kid. 712 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 5: I mean his personality. Remember him on the Big Red 713 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 5: Rage telling us that him and his brother, you know, 714 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 5: most evenings during the season, they're on Pinterest trying to 715 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 5: find recipes to make it home. So now he needed 716 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 5: his own personal chef for nineteen million a year. But 717 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 5: it's it's the love of the game that fueled him. 718 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 5: It's at Colorado State when he was a two time 719 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 5: All American and he had chances to transfer, he was 720 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 5: just there, you know, I mean Fort Morgan, Colorado, his 721 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 5: hometown is throwing a big party this evening. 722 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 2: I would expect, Yeah, no doubt about that. And I 723 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 2: thought it was very cool because he already played the 724 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 2: cut of Monti Austin for talking about what a leader 725 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: Trey McBride was and is on this team right now. 726 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: This is verification what I love about this. He's getting 727 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 2: rewarded for what he has done, of course, but also 728 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 2: it says something to every other guy that is in 729 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 2: that locker room. Hey, you go about your business, you 730 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 2: get better as a football player. You produce, and you're 731 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 2: gonna get paid. 732 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 5: That's a great point. And you know what Marvin Arrison 733 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 5: junior in year two, You know the Cardinals with that 734 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 5: run game. If they get a speed receiver to stretch 735 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 5: the field, there's no reason why he can't exceed one 736 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 5: hundred eleven catches eleven hundred receiving yards. It's gonna be 737 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 5: real fun to see Trey McBride once again under contract 738 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 5: through twenty twenty nine. Hey, join us Thursday Draft Night, 739 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 5: Cardinals Official Draft Party. I'll be out there. We got 740 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 5: it rocking. Free tickets, free parking. It is on the 741 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 5: Great Lawn at State Farm Stadium. Asycardinals dot Com Slash 742 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 5: Draft Party. Kolescampbell, we'll talk to big Man next on 743 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,959 Speaker 5: the Big Red Rage. 744 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 4: Dragged down by Kaleis Campbell sack at the eighteen. It 745 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 4: was Kalaias Campbell there first, sack by Campbell at midvale 746 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 4: Kalais have it a day feeling pressure head and sacked 747 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 4: at the thirty five by Kalais Campbell. 748 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 2: Spring to the left. 749 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 4: That's picked up by Campbell at twenty. 750 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 1: Fuck Kalaius Campbell read bad play that is an all 751 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: Pro play by an all Pro player. 752 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 4: Hen sacked at the fifteen yard line by Kalis Campbell. 753 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 4: Sacked again Kalaias Campbell was there, sacked again at the 754 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 4: twenty eight yard line, and it's Kaleis Campbell. 755 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 5: If you guys won't have to learn any names or 756 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 5: numbers when it comes to the big man in the preseason. 757 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 5: You've been there and done that his entire Cardinals' career. 758 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 5: It is amazing some of the fun facts on Kaleis 759 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 5: Campbell aged thirty eight. He'll be thirty nine at some 760 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 5: point this season. Year eighteen, you realize Ron wilfully that 761 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 5: Kalais is eleven plus years older than his d line. 762 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 2: Coach he has that that's awesome. 763 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 5: He has nine block field goals in his career at 764 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 5: six foot eight, it makes sense that's the third most 765 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 5: in the NFL since nineteen seventy. He was a rookie 766 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 5: on the Cardinals' Super Bowl forty three team in the 767 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 5: two thousand and eight campaign. Kalais was on that team. 768 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 5: He was named the All Decade Team into the twenty tens. 769 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,240 Speaker 5: So when you dropped earlier and Frosty Rutger mentioned earlier 770 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 5: as well, you know, the potential for the Pro Football 771 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 5: Hall of Fame facts. I mean, he's a six time 772 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 5: Pro Bowler with one hundred and ten and a half 773 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 5: career sacks that is the third most among active players 774 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 5: right now. He's third all time on the Cardinals franchise 775 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 5: all time sack list, behind Chandler Jones and Freddie Joe Nunn. 776 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 5: So there's all that, and there's a dude who started 777 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 5: all seventeen games each of the last two years for 778 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 5: Atlanta in Miami, and he comes in and think of 779 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 5: that d line room. Now, think of how deep that 780 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 5: position group is. 781 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 2: Wolf Pauly. First of all, I'm looking at Kalis Campbell 782 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 2: as a starter on the defensive line. Wow. You know, 783 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 2: I know you can look at it and say there's 784 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: a lot of competition that is there, and you are 785 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: right about that. But I think before it's all said 786 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 2: and done, I think Kalis Campbell is going to be 787 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 2: a starter on that defensive line. He's certainly capable of 788 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 2: doing that. Fifty two tackles last year, fifty two tackles 789 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 2: alone last year for Kalis Campbell, and five sacks as well. 790 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,919 Speaker 2: This is a guy that is still a very productive 791 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 2: defensive lineman in the NFL. I don't know where they're 792 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 2: going to play him. This is what fascinates me. It's 793 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 2: going to be really interesting. Are you going to play 794 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 2: him as the three technique You're going to play him 795 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 2: over the guards outside shoulder, or are you going to 796 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 2: play him as a five technique a little bit more 797 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 2: over the outside shoulder of an offensive tackle, or maybe 798 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 2: a four I where you're just inside of that offensive tackle. 799 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 2: Where are they going to play Kaleis Campbell the most? 800 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 2: That is something that I am really looking forward to seeing. 801 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,879 Speaker 2: But the one thing I do know about out this 802 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 2: this defensive line and this defense, the Arizona Cardinals defense 803 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 2: is going to be better in twenty twenty five because 804 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 2: of Kalais. 805 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 5: And you know what, guys like Paris Johnson Junior, they 806 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 5: got a taste of Kalais Campbell last year Cardinals and 807 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 5: Dolphins mid season in Miami. And guess what, Paris Johnson Junior, 808 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 5: he was miked up. 809 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 10: Come on, oh j he said, I was till young 810 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 10: o Ja Come on, oh Jake, Come on, oh Jake. 811 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 10: That's what I'm talking about, Oh Jake, get your hands up, 812 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 10: get your hands up. 813 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 5: I would love to be there when Paris Johnson Junior 814 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 5: and Kalais Campbell reunite for the first time in the Cardinals' 815 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 5: locker room. 816 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 2: Yes, Paully, do you have any idea what he was saying? 817 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 2: Get your hands up? Why he was saying that? Do 818 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 2: you have any idea? Not? Really? No, Okay, I can 819 00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 2: I offer you something. 820 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 5: For as someone Polly Pensilnik who's never played in the trenches, 821 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 5: please illuminate. 822 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 2: Me well as you would if you've already pointed out. 823 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 2: He's six'. Eight he's a big tree with. Arms that's 824 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 2: what he. Is and get your hands. Up get your hands, 825 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,280 Speaker 2: up because maybe he was jabbing him in the ribs 826 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: when he'd put his hands. Up i'm just, saying, MAN 827 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 2: i would love to know why he's saying. That why 828 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 2: would you Encourage Kalaius campbell to put his hands? UP i, 829 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 2: mean especially because he is so good at batting balls. 830 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 5: DOWN i, mean, look when you stand out in AN nfl, 831 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 5: HUDDLE i mean you are an ultra large human, being 832 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 5: and that Is Kalais. Campbell but back to your point 833 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 5: about you have him as a. Starter that's. Intriguing first, 834 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 5: off let me just say. THIS i, mean you look 835 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 5: at the end of last season and who The cardinals 836 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 5: had to suit up because of, injury, RIGHT i mean 837 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 5: you at the end of the last year Had Nakwon 838 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 5: jones And Kyrie's tonga and you, KNOW i Mean Roy 839 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,959 Speaker 5: lopez had a great, year but he's. Gone and now 840 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 5: you're going to roll out, There Dalvin, Thomlinson Justin, Jones Blal, 841 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 5: Nichols Darius, ROBINSON. Lj collier is, Back Dante stills and 842 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 5: you Had Kaleus. CAMPBELL i, Mean, wolf how competitive is 843 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 5: that room right? 844 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 2: Now it's. UNBELIEVABLE balli WHEN i think Of Justin, jones 845 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 2: this guy who played in three, games And Balal nichols 846 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 2: who played in six games as, well but Especially Justin, 847 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 2: JONES i was really curious to see what kind of 848 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 2: impact he was going to make with The cardinals front 849 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 2: seven and he only got to play in three. Games 850 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 2: Darius robinson right, now just the fact that he is so, 851 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 2: talented so. Young that's the other part about this that 852 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 2: we haven't talked. About Just Kalauis campbell Taking Darius robinson 853 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 2: under his wing literally and mentoring. Him how much better 854 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 2: Could Darius robinson be this season than he was his 855 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 2: rookie Ear we're going to find. Out but, man the 856 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 2: talent that is in the defensive line room right, now 857 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 2: it is as competitive AS i can, Remember. 858 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 5: Paulie and you got to give Many Assin ford and 859 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 5: jg credit, here. RIGHT i mean it's been like a 860 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 5: construction zone in THAT d line position. Group, YEAH i, 861 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 5: mean it's been like extreme MAKEOVER d. Line, addition they 862 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 5: got to put this like On home And Garden network 863 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,919 Speaker 5: at this, point what they've done in THAT d line. 864 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 5: Room and to your point about the experience of a 865 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 5: thirty eight year old who's going into his eighteen. Season guess, 866 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 5: what they love their higher Coach debo as A d line. 867 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,280 Speaker 5: Coach but he's twenty eight to twenty nine years old 868 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 5: and he was coaching in the college. Game so there 869 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 5: are certain things That kalayas can share with The Darius 870 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 5: robinson And Dante stills that you, know most other humans 871 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 5: in the planet. Cannot, yes that's got to be really, 872 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 5: beneficial by the, WAY. 873 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 2: I Want, YEAH i just want to say this, Quickly. 874 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 2: Pauli right, Here Kalis, Campbell Dalvin tomlinson over the, Nose Darius, 875 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 2: Robinson i'll take. It you know. 876 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 5: What i'm on board with that as, well no. Doubt, 877 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,760 Speaker 5: hey learn everything you need to know About cardinals season, 878 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 5: tickets premium, seeding luxury field seat and go To azycardinals 879 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 5: dot com slash. Tickets Ron, Wolfley Jim, Molmhundro Cody, Fincher Matt, 880 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 5: Lazarus I'm Paul Calvic special thanks To Frosty. 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