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Speaker 4: Sha'tet in my vein and all of this came out.

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Speaker 3: Roommates Shore, presented by AT three six five, a playmaker original.

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Speaker 3: You know, the vibes are always a macolate. Obviously, we

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Speaker 3: have Matt m JB here, my co host. I'm Josh Hart,

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Speaker 3: and we have a special day today. Jaylen decided to

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Speaker 3: Game Hall of Famer. At Temple was Top fifteen retarded,

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Speaker 3: appreciate you everyone everyone's been when you on the show, bro.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you about your busy scheduled, very busy. So

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Speaker 5: About it's the first McDonald's American where you didn't You

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Speaker 3: So I was just like bro, I don't know about this, dude, dog.

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Speaker 2: I never lost. I never lost a Big Five game either.

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Speaker 2: I never going to Temple never she wanted to. Really, Nah,

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Speaker 2: Erica needs to be a city.

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Speaker 1: Life is different for her dad, you know. So, Nah,

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Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, there's no way she was going to temple.

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Speaker 6: Bet three six five. Let's talk NFL Week twelve Weekly

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Speaker 2: Who you got?

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Speaker 6: What's the score? What's your predictions? Cowboys at Commanders.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm doing score, but we beating

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Speaker 3: the hell out them. I say thirty five fourteen Commanders.

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Speaker 3: Niners at Packers.

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Speaker 2: That's a good game, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say Packers.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Packers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nine is aren't who they used to be.

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Speaker 2: Not just going through a little stretch happens. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go Packers though. Eagles at Chargers. Chargers are

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Speaker 6: gonna say Eagles, though, that's crazy. I picked the Commanders

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Speaker 3: Me, no, because I want you try to lose. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah first, yeah, first.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and the Bucks a Giants. Oh that's a shocker,

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Speaker 3: right there, folks?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Who Bucks are gonna win? It might be, it might

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Speaker 2: It might be a close game.

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Speaker 6: If Baker throws a million picks, but it's not gonna

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how about to say it would be a close

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Speaker 2: So in the defense, yeah yeah, uh yeah.

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Speaker 3: If it was just the Giants versus the Bucks special teams,

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Speaker 1: Look at Sant John's writer and then you know, I

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Speaker 2: It's like Moody Josh is more moody than I am.

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Speaker 1: I know Josh is like for me, I think now

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Speaker 1: And I tell everybody I walk around stud like, yo, yo,

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Speaker 1: You can tell right away this is easy like to read.

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Speaker 3: Seven thirty there.

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Speaker 1: But every now and day we need you at ten eleven.

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Speaker 1: You know it will help.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm present. I'm always present.

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Speaker 2: So you're telling me, no, you're there, You're not present.

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Speaker 6: My physical body is there exactly, it needs you mentally there.

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Speaker 1: So you know back in the day, like like the

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Speaker 3: I think, I think it only yeah, sometimes a lot

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Speaker 3: I just went through the plays twice two days in

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Speaker 1: So I will say, it's just gone all right. So

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Speaker 1: that's your perspective, right, mm hmm. So then his perspective

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Speaker 1: teach Josh. I'm gonna teach everybody. So sometimes a smart

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Speaker 2: Right, that's what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: So, but sometimes you have to let the other guys

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Speaker 3: That's a valid point.

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Speaker 1: So so when Tims is teaching, he's not maybe that day,

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Speaker 2: Your selfish you want.

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Speaker 1: You want class when Josh get it is over, that's

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Speaker 1: what you said. Yeah, okay, let me let me see them.

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Speaker 3: I'll get the bottle.

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Speaker 2: That was a great day to that was.

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Speaker 3: A good day. I tell you.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you bro this.

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Speaker 3: I feel like there's three times you can really count

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Speaker 1: I was you're reliable. Obviously you're very reliable. But I

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Speaker 1: just think there are times the group you're only as

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Speaker 3: Weakest link a strong team, I mean we are.

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Speaker 1: There are days where you don't want to do something

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Speaker 1: to you, but people doesn't you know, I'm tired. I'm

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Speaker 1: but it was really your ankle.

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Speaker 3: No, it was both down bad.

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Speaker 1: you had the best game of the short season so far, right,

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Speaker 1: but that happened on Thursday. In practice you went wait

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Speaker 1: to work every day? Like you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 1: can you explain that to the people? Why you pick

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So so for me, right, I think it all

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Speaker 1: So my job, m you know, my job, My job

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Speaker 1: is to like make sure everyone knows you're good. Josh

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Speaker 1: good Man, yo, yo, he's good. Like he's good because

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Speaker 1: you know, people get angry with you because not because

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Speaker 2: They want to make sure you know.

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Speaker 3: And I feel like I always tell guys like y'all

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Speaker 1: Want that's like yes, it's like that's like you. That's

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Speaker 1: like me telling people. You can come talk. You can

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Speaker 1: walk into me and say what's up, like look at

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Speaker 3: On, no, no, no, my thing is like you can say

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna hear. I'm gonna hear what you say, like

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Speaker 3: if you sit there and sit if you sit there

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Speaker 3: and be like, I don't know to say, not one

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Speaker 3: of y'all say you know another coach or whatever, like

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Speaker 3: like Josh mess assignments like I don't know, keep messing up,

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Speaker 3: you ain't gonna play whatever. I'm gonna say something back.

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Speaker 3: But then I know, like when I get in the game,

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Speaker 3: I know what you said. I'm gonna go out there

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Speaker 3: and do it.

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Speaker 2: But just you just need you just need the last words.

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Speaker 2: What you're saying.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't need the last words. I just need if,

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Speaker 3: especially if I'm already mad, I'm gonna.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, like I think you've been much

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Speaker 1: better this year, a lot better in two games. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm from no no, from the summer. He's been working, yeah, hating, No,

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Speaker 1: he's been doing this thing. But I'll I asked you to, dude,

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Speaker 1: can you, like when you come out the game, can

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Speaker 1: you like like don't walk like towards like the lock

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Speaker 1: like the visual team, like, can you like come to

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Speaker 1: still not gonna do that?

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Speaker 3: No, I can do that.

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Speaker 2: I don't do it every now, just give me like I.

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Speaker 3: Like a lot of times I can do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, what's you know?

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Speaker 6: What's what's either that or post game when Josh Josh

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Speaker 6: got the knee bags, ice bags and then the feet

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Speaker 6: and uh in the in the.

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Speaker 2: Foot bath whatever.

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Speaker 6: So we should everyone be breaking down, you know, the

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Speaker 6: coaches going around like everyone's hands right, so before I

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Speaker 2: Whatever.

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Speaker 6: I usually Josh on the road is usually someone close by.

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Speaker 6: It is Josh every time.

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Speaker 3: Especially if we lose. I'm not a move. If we lose,

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Speaker 3: don't that. Don't don't try to shake my hand. Don't

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 1: We los, bro, No, you got you got agree.

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Speaker 3: But like a lot of time, I'll put my hand.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be like, oh yeah man, we up.

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Speaker 1: No, we did have. We do have in all seriousness.

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Speaker 1: The only thing actually all you can do whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: You can walk through the locker room.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I never said, man, you did it yesterday or Friday.

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Speaker 1: What I tell you to do before coach talks.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm, oh I did it. I said you did

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Speaker 3: another game.

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Speaker 1: Too, because you know, coach starts speaking, you start making

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Speaker 1: all this the noises.

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Speaker 3: Good context. Right. So yeah, so I don't know when

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Speaker 3: it started, but like since I've been in the league,

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Speaker 3: like I guess probably part of it, like where my

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Speaker 3: five years. Like we have the meeting, our pregame meeting

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Speaker 3: sitting there, you know, Tid is talking. I'm putting my

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Speaker 3: like the little knee warmer massages but their velcrow. So

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Speaker 3: Tims would sit there be like I first played, We're

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's so frustrating.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but I never yeah, like I never really paid

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Speaker 3: too much attention to it until he said it. And

441
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: then like, I don't know if you pet the other

442
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Speaker 3: day because I'll have them before I go shoot. And

443
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Speaker 3: then sometime now our trainer he'll you know, put them back,

444
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 3: but he'll wrap them so right when I get back,

445
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 3: we're going right into the meeting. So I was trying

446
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Speaker 3: to grab it. That sounds crazy. I was trying to

447
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 3: graduate and like rip it off slowly. And then the

448
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 3: one time I did it and you've made one contact.

449
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 3: But there's two things. Two things up I'm gonna do

450
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 3: for this season. Make sure you know that's done or

451
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 3: before before the meeting so it's not not too loud

452
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 3: so it's not distracting, not distracting. And then shake everybody

453
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Speaker 3: hand when I go out.

454
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Speaker 5: I have a question for you.

455
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Speaker 1: Rick.

456
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Speaker 5: I remember after the last preseason game. I remember I

457
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Speaker 5: was calling my phone. I'm on Twitter or whatever. Twitter

458
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Speaker 5: I see Josh Hart says he's lost and wants to

459
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Speaker 5: go to the second unit. I didn't say I wanted

460
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Speaker 5: to go to the responsibility. What was your what was

461
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Speaker 5: your reaction when you see him go to the.

462
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Speaker 2: Media with that?

463
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Speaker 1: Before we can be honest, fall honest.

464
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Speaker 3: Yes, I talked to him. We talk other time, but

465
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,479
Speaker 3: I called him.

466
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Speaker 1: I called him next day. The first thing I said was,

467
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Speaker 1: do you want to go to the second unit because

468
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Speaker 1: you feel like you can help that unit better and

469
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Speaker 1: help yourself get better? Are you going to the second

470
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: unit because you're frustrated of the way you've been playing

471
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: or we've been playing, or what have you? And he

472
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Speaker 1: says it a little bit of both. I think that's

473
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Speaker 1: what he said. But when Josh talks in the media,

474
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Speaker 1: we as coaches know like like we say, Josh being Josh.

475
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: But then sometimes like you know, it is like kind

476
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Speaker 1: of like damn, like as he upset, is he really upset?

477
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: Like was like, but there's times where in the preseason games,

478
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Speaker 1: if you watch him, I don't know if he was

479
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: I can't even say that. I don't know what he

480
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: was thinking going through his head, but like he won't

481
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: he wouldn't shoot so I didn't know if he was

482
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Speaker 1: like making a point. You know how Kobe did it

483
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 1: when it's Phoenix, you remember for that and then so

484
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on. But I've always

485
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: said to him, and I used to tell I told him,

486
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Speaker 1: I said, man, I told you, I said, let's evaluate

487
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: him when the season starts. And now, so that's how I.

488
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 5: To that pretty good in the starting lineup's let's evaluating.

489
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Speaker 1: And if you didn't, no mine, you know, if we

490
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: did did that, he would't complain about that too, of course,

491
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Speaker 1: So it's.

492
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Speaker 5: Whatever, damn if you do.

493
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Speaker 3: Damn if you don't, exactly, I'm gonna say something like,

494
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 3: no matter what, Bro, I'm gonna say something. I'm hear

495
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: what they gotta say that. I'm like, dangn, They're probably right.

496
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Speaker 1: You have to evaluate and I always do. Like for me,

497
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Speaker 1: I evaluate obviously Josh during the games season. I evaluate

498
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: him in all season. I know what the approach that

499
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Speaker 1: he's gonna have. If I see the right approach in

500
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: all season, I would say Mitchell Robinson, guy who that's

501
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: one of my favorites, Mitch, evaluate him. You know when

502
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Speaker 1: the season starts. Then you know certain guys like to me,

503
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: everyone can't be the same. You can't have fifteen guys

504
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: who just like eat, sleep, basketball. That's impossible. So for me,

505
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: I just evaluate every guy differently. I don't think it's

506
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: fair to say, oh, he works hard and you don't,

507
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: So I don't like that's not fair. Like some guys

508
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: are more talented, some guys have to work harder to

509
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: even get to that level. So that's how I do it.

510
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 5: I said, when it comes to Jalen, have you has

511
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 5: it been long enough now where you can kind of

512
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 5: move between father and coach or how do you balance that?

513
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's an issue anymore. Honestly, I

514
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: think this is the right I think if out of

515
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: coached him in college, it probably wouldn't have worked out

516
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: for either of us. I think this is the perfect time,

517
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: and he was at a level where he was good enough.

518
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: I think I was at a position where I felt

519
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: comfortable and allowing him to be himself. So but I

520
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: don't even I don't even think about it anymore.

521
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 6: About me your perspective, I would say, I don't think

522
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 6: about it either. I truly think when we're all in

523
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 6: the on the court, it's strictly coaching player, but as

524
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 6: soon as practice over, as soon as the game is over,

525
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 6: it's like father son. Like even after a game if

526
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 6: I played great or terrible, like he hasn't called me

527
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 6: about like what I shared in the game like that night,

528
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 6: like we'll talk about the next day or whatever. It's

529
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 6: I think our relationship is like beyond healthy, Like it's

530
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 6: it's never so many people tell me I could never

531
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 6: let my dad like coach me, or I'm just like,

532
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 6: this is like the coolest slash greatest thing ever. I

533
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 6: have the person who absolutely like wants the absolute best

534
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 6: of me at all times and wants to push me

535
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 6: every single day. So I mean, I love it. It's it's

536
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 6: made me better and I don't know, like for the

537
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 6: first time, like I even like growing up like he was,

538
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 6: Like we lived primarily live in New Jersey for his

539
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 6: entire career and so like he was never like there

540
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 6: for like a full like a school year. I always

541
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 6: traveled to see him, like during the holidays or whatever.

542
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 6: So I mean I get to seem like my dad

543
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 6: like every day.

544
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a dream. It's like it's like you

545
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 5: couldn't script it as well as it's con.

546
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: Oh, definitely.

547
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I would say the first year here,

548
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: it was difficult for me because you don't I'm a coach.

549
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: People forget man, I'm a coach. I've been coaching since

550
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven. Actually I've been coaching before that

551
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: because I never really played, so me sitting there, I

552
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: used to study. I just if you look at any

553
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: tape when I when I was played for the Knicks,

554
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: I was always sitting next to TIBs. So it was

555
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: always a coach mentaltic.

556
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: You know.

557
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: I was always trying to help my teammate. You know,

558
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: I see things I would tell him, so like my

559
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: first year, like I felt like the whole year, I'm

560
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: like trying to prove myself, like I'm a coach, Like

561
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm like my dad. That's how I took it. And

562
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: I would say the only time that I get Dad

563
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: modive is when like he embarrassed himself, like when he

564
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: starts acting like this guy yelling and screaming at referees.

565
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: They both have that trade and that like I get it,

566
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: like you get like.

567
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: Your worst, but I'm getting better though, I'm it.

568
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: Isn't worse because you the referees expect that they don't

569
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: expect that, like the other night doing all this junk right, excuse.

570
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: Me, Oh, you get a lot of who are you

571
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: doing to.

572
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: I wasn't talking to anybody in particular. I was just talking.

573
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: I know him better than anybody at my point, you know. Yeah,

574
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: And I was like yo, like you know, and we

575
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: have a rule, like you can just like Josh, you

576
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: can cuss me out on the court, but if you

577
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: cuss me out of the court, my father, I'm gonna

578
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: get my belt out.

579
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: I would say. It's cool just from being like on

580
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: the outside looking in, it's like one, like you know,

581
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 3: how like you are and and like you're I won't

582
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: say mood, but like you're how your character is like

583
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: your great time to like to be around like you're

584
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 3: you kind of keep the mood light and you have

585
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: a good relationship with a lot of the guys. So

586
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: it's like on the outside looking in getting into that situation.

587
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: It is specially being traded. It never looked it never

588
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: seemed like it was like a father son type thing.

589
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: It's not like you only you know you only coaching

590
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: will like impractice sit there like you gotta do this.

591
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: It was always like you know, you had your relationship

592
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: with every guy and you can talk to everybody, so

593
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: on the outside looking in, it looked.

594
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: Only, Oh, I can't really talk to you a lot

595
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: because it's like double no.

596
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: Double dutchess.

597
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the double dutch. That's how it is coaching.

598
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: Like when do I something mm hmm.

599
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 5: When A sponsored by Tommy John the MVP of your

600
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 5: underwear drawer this week, m VP means memories are very precious,

601
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 5: Jalen and Reck, what are the memories Jayleen, you've been

602
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 5: in the NBA that you guys have been most excited

603
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 5: to share it together?

604
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: Obviously?

605
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: I would think that for me, the first one would

606
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: be like Opening Night, the first the first year that

607
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: he was on the team, Like just the factly playing

608
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: in New York and remember I played here and he

609
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: used to run around the court. That's that's a big

610
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: one for me. And then you know, just from a

611
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: dad's standpoint and just just being an All Star was

612
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: was was crazy to me. You know, we talked about

613
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: it a lot when he was growing up. You know,

614
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: if he worked, he can achieve anything he wanted and

615
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: to do that in New York is it was It

616
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: was crazy.

617
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 6: I would say the one time I really saw him

618
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 6: as like a fan, like at a game. It was

619
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 6: my first game, first game ever, Like he he could

620
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 6: have cared less of.

621
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: What happened Phoenix.

622
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was crazy.

623
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought no.

624
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 6: I was like, that was like the one that comes

625
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 6: to mind that. He was like the hairball you shot?

626
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: Was it short?

627
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 3: It was left right?

628
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: It was corner corner o. Yeah, but then he hit

629
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: a big three, the big three, the big three, Yeah,

630
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: that was that was exciting. That lost, right, Yeah, I

631
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: thought they won.

632
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: I was.

633
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: We're going to eat, let's celebrate.

634
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: Leon was Leon was there too, that's right, was there too.

635
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: I don't think Leon ever went to any of my games.

636
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: He said, all her games.

637
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 3: Your agent long enough to go to He was my

638
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 3: agent for like half a summer, was he?

639
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 5: Yeah?

640
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: Say with Leon? Then literally three month Lady was like.

641
00:32:53,920 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: Oh so you were always with oh yeah, that's my

642
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: guy Joe Joe.

643
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, because Joe Joe took a front office drop to Minnesota. Yeah,

644
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 5: that's that's why he thought, right.

645
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, you know, I'm gonna go.

646
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: I was like Leon was like, oh yeah, no know,

647
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: Leon was getting Yeah, exactly found out I'm like, hold on,

648
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 3: I think he actually called I think he called me

649
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: at at one point with like a this might come out.

650
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and I'll wear good a A Ron and

651
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: Dave Dave Sam may want me.

652
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 5: So wow, you two can make Tommy John the MVP

653
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 5: of your underwear.

654
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 6: Jar, guys, we are so back were season two with

655
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Speaker 6: Tommy John.

656
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: Josh what underwear?

657
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: I can't show you right now, but I got on them.

658
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: Tommy John's my post game post, will workout, ritual, always

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Speaker 3: What would you call it?

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Speaker 2: What this is?

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Speaker 5: Someone retired recently. I don't know if it was d

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Speaker 5: ros or anyway, but someone when they were Like, by

682
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 5: retiring and by no longer being on this NBA schedule,

683
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 5: I can actually help my son become a better player.

684
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 5: For what's that a thought for you? Like by freeing

685
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 5: out more time, I can kind of help Jalen be

686
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Speaker 5: what I know he wants to be.

687
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Speaker 1: So let's be honest. I'm always gonna keep it honest.

688
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: Like I hate to use the world retire because I

689
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: disrespectful to a guy like the Roles. I just stopped playing.

690
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't as good as those guys to retired. I

691
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: didn't have anything to retire from.

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Speaker 3: He was not not years though.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of but if you put the games together,

694
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: it's about three like total games, you knows, being honest, Like,

695
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: we're gonna be honest here, right, yeah, but like, but

696
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, but it's hard to be as you know,

697
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: it's hard to be on a team or I have

698
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: a contract. I always I kid myself, but like, the

699
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: two hardest jobs in the NBA. It's to be the

700
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: greatest player and to be a guy who's trying to

701
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: make the league every single every.

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00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 5: Single year, number one and number four fifty.

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Speaker 2: It's two hardest jobs.

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Speaker 1: Man. But what are we talking about?

705
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Speaker 2: Oh? Like, did you all being with him? Yeah?

706
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: So it's funny when I and uh I bring it

707
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: up to how so I'm killing right now? Mo Cheeks

708
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Speaker 1: mm hmm made me retire.

709
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Speaker 2: Excuse me?

710
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: Mo Cheeks made me walk away from basketball. He was

711
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: the coach of the Sixers. All I wanted was ten

712
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: years in NBA. It's all I wanted.

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00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 5: I'm done and you get the lifetime healthcare.

714
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah I had to pay for it. But so Mo

715
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Speaker 1: was the coach. So I'm gonna go to Sixes and

716
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: try out. And and Mo said, you already played him

717
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: in Portland like a couple years ago, so I had

718
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: you know, everything was good, was set up for me

719
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: to make the team and make a long story, sure.

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Speaker 2: That they cut me.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, damn. He was there that night too. He

722
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: was me as a ball kid and I actually it

723
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: was against the Knicks. You go back and look it up,

724
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: find a video, and uh, they cut me like at

725
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: the game, like when the games over, Hey, Rick, you're

726
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: talking about like, oh man, I know this talks on me.

727
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: And I remember driving home from you know, from the

728
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Speaker 1: six years and you know, he was upset. I was upset,

729
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: but I knew. I said, you know, he's I don't

730
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Speaker 1: know you were ten. Then I was like, you know what,

731
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: man like chasing his dreams. I wanted I should have

732
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Speaker 1: kept playing, but it's just he was at the age

733
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Speaker 1: where I just wanted to spend time with them, having

734
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Speaker 1: seen them for you know, and I want to be

735
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Speaker 1: home and so yeah, part of the reason was I

736
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Speaker 1: just wanted to make sure he was good. I didn't

737
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Speaker 1: want to keep chasing his dream and then not be

738
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Speaker 1: there for him in Erica.

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Speaker 5: So how old were you when he stepped away?

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Speaker 6: Tonk ton so Mo cheeks man, thank you. Yeah. I

741
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 6: think that was the first thing I said to them

742
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Speaker 6: too when I saw him here. Really so yeah, I said,

743
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Speaker 6: you cut my dad and he was finally gonna be playing.

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Speaker 2: At home, Like it was.

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Speaker 1: I never played in the city where my kids were

746
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Speaker 1: to be Philly, and I had opportunity to be on

747
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: the team and I had opportunity to play in Philly,

748
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Speaker 1: which have been unbelievable.

749
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Speaker 2: Is I love Philly.

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Speaker 1: I love the Eagles everything and and Mo cheeks. He

751
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: snatched my dream away many So we talked tomorrow.

752
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Speaker 5: Jalen's said a few times on this show. He shared

753
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Speaker 5: with us the first time he beats you one on one,

754
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 5: I'm curious if your stories match up.

755
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: They definitely don't match up the first time. I don't know.

756
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Speaker 1: To be honest, I don't even know. I don't know

757
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: if he ever beat me. Now I'm gonna say, like this,

758
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: it's always time to teaching a lesson you.

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Speaker 2: You guys just your error.

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Speaker 1: You guys just played basketball with all They just play

761
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Speaker 1: And for me, when I played, you always kept scoring.

762
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 1: You wanted to win. You remember that, so we always play.

763
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Speaker 1: It's a score and he'd be winning four to two, game,

764
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Speaker 1: go to five. I was like, I'm up, I'm up

765
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Speaker 1: three to two, all right. He never knew the score,

766
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Speaker 1: and I said, said kill me.

767
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Speaker 2: So he had.

768
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Speaker 1: He didn't even realize he probably beat me more than

769
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: what he thought because he didn't know the score. And

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Speaker 1: I just cheated him, like I'm up five for this game,

771
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, but I just just when I knew he

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Speaker 1: was going to be I don't know he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: like I said, man, you know he got a little

774
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Speaker 1: something with him.

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Speaker 2: I beat him.

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Speaker 1: I drugged him one day.

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Speaker 2: Eric was there. That sounds crazy, by the way. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I just.

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Speaker 1: I mopped him around the floor.

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Speaker 2: That that better. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: So so I kill him and he mad like angry,

782
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Speaker 1: and he's like that all you do was f and

783
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Speaker 1: cheat like the first at me around me. I was like,

784
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: you cuss again, i'mnna whoop you.

785
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Speaker 2: But then I walked back.

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Speaker 1: I said, Okay, he got something inside him where he

787
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: got some fight. I don't know when he ever be.

788
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Speaker 1: Did you ever really beat me bs like when junior

789
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: high school? Yes, I think I was hurt that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know josh one of that when you had

791
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Speaker 3: to twisted ankle.

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Speaker 1: That's why. Okay, I knew playing him. I knew when

793
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Speaker 1: to stopped playing. I was like, I'm done because he

794
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: honestly when we started playing, when he probably beat me. Yeah,

795
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: he probably beat me once it got real physical, remember that.

796
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Speaker 1: I remember I coming up really physical like I was.

797
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Speaker 1: I was trying to hurt him, like go to the whole.

798
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Speaker 1: I filled him hard that I remember my home and

799
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Speaker 1: told his mom like I'm done. I'm gonna hurt this

800
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Speaker 1: kid because I didn't want to lose, and he was,

801
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Speaker 1: you know, he started getting good, so I stopped.

802
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Speaker 2: I was busting. Yes, yeah, all right, it's like to

803
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Speaker 2: catch it. Oh, not that bad, not that bad, not

804
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Speaker 2: that bad.

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Speaker 6: I forget when you told me this, but at some

806
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Speaker 6: point you were like you kept telling me that you're

807
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 6: I'm the study guy, Like if this is the test, right,

808
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 6: you prepare for a test talking about me playing basketball,

809
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 6: and you're like, I'm the study guy. So you like,

810
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 6: basically I have the answers for you. Can you go

811
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 6: on the depth of like for people who don't understand

812
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 6: I understand that, but people don't really understand that, like

813
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 6: what you meant by that.

814
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: So obviously, I played in this league for nine nine years.

815
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: I watched great players, I watched average players, and I

816
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: watched a ton of players like myself trying to make it.

817
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: So I had an understanding of what the what the

818
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: league was about. And from what I know and from

819
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: what I saw in my time you have fifteen excuse me,

820
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: twenty to yeah, about twenty to thirty NBA players like

821
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: can't miss.

822
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: That's just my opinion. Then you have.

823
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Speaker 1: In the middle, you have you know, like you know,

824
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: you know a couple of hundred guys that are talented

825
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: and that I had NBA talent is to I always said,

826
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: is an NBA talent as the NBA players. There's two

827
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: different things, right, And then you have guys like myself,

828
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, you know, say you got fifty to seventy

829
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: five guys in my time that just just worked the

830
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: tail off to try to make a living. So I understood,

831
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: and I remember, like for you, notice I used to

832
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: I never said, yo, you can be the best point

833
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: guard and hits you the game, right, All I said,

834
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: you work, you work, you can achieve your goal, which

835
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: is to play in the NBA. My goal is for

836
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: you just to play in the NBA. You know, I

837
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: didn't you know, I didn't know how good you were

838
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: going to be because you don't know what type of

839
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: coach you're planning for, or you don't know what type

840
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: of organization you're plan for. So I just want you

841
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: to get this. So I had the answers to the

842
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: test and obviously you believe in what I said. And

843
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: the biggest answer was you just got to work. Everybody

844
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: just you know, to get a job. Luckily, both you

845
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: guys have the talent, you know, so that takes a

846
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: step closer to you know, to the guys that you know,

847
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: there's Steph Curry of the world. Those guys are like

848
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: bona fide can't miss NBA players, And I think a

849
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: lot of kids come in to this league and think

850
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: they made it, you know. I won't say names, but

851
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: they're they're just people who been on teams that were successful,

852
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: get traded and unsuccessful looking for two way the next year,

853
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: you know, because they lose sight of what the god

854
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: mar And to me it's so simple, like I always

855
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Speaker 1: tell our jail and get good work, and people look

856
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: at make them crazy, like what does that mean? Doing

857
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: things that you don't think you can do every single day.

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Speaker 6: So it was there was always times with humans, get

859
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 6: my work done before I do anything, like I gotta

860
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 6: go it was a Saturday, like no school, I had

861
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 6: to go to the gym before I can go hang

862
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Speaker 6: out with like friends.

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Speaker 3: With.

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Speaker 6: My people or whatever. It was always like what did

865
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Speaker 6: you do that day, like to get better? Right, And

866
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 6: there was always like an off day, like a Sunday.

867
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Speaker 6: It was at least one off day.

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Speaker 3: But going back to the like the when you were

869
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Speaker 3: talking about, you know, the different players. Do you think

870
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 3: part of the reason why now a lot of guys

871
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 3: that are like in and out the league or whatever

872
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 3: is because of like social media, but also like the

873
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: quote unquote potential or like you say, like to have

874
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: NBA talent. So it's like everyone's like going into the

875
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: league eighteen nineteen, guys like you know, you came in

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Speaker 3: at what twenty twenty one? I think I was twenty two.

877
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: So it's like you have guys who were there three

878
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: four years that know how to play basketball, but then

879
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 3: you have like the the NBA like style body right now.

880
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: Do you think that's part of that is the reason why?

881
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: I think it can be? I think a lot of times.

882
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: So like for me, if you take a young kid,

883
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: like you know, the guy Pack that we just drafted,

884
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: you take him right to me, you gotta give him

885
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: a window, like a college window four to five years.

886
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: You can't give up on a kid that because he's

887
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,479
Speaker 1: going through his college days in the NBA. So I think,

888
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: And so to answer your question is I think the

889
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: biggest thing guys get out the league is because they

890
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: lose sight of us of their job. Like that is

891
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: a job, that's your job. You get up every day

892
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: to go to work like your parents did and sometimes,

893
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: you know, you get comfortable. And I think a lot

894
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: of guys like with the league does for them more

895
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: than what they do for the league.

896
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: So to me, it's as simple as this.

897
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: If you go to work every single day, put your

898
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: time in, you'd be fine. You don't have to be

899
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: there five hours, go to work hard, do everything he's

900
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: supposed to do. You'll play for ten fifteen years. But

901
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 1: it sounds simple, and you notice half of guys won't

902
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: do it.

903
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, especially as the league has grown and starts to

904
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 5: give you more and more. You know, it's like dupe.

905
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 5: Are people doing it for the right reason? Do they?

906
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 5: You know, if the salaries are more than they were,

907
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 5: does it? You know in the back in the day,

908
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 5: maybe they would have got playcent five ten years in,

909
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 5: but now it's like one two years and you're getting.

910
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: Well, we can't no money. We also we forget that.

911
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: I say this all the time, like it's a job

912
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: and everyone else like people know.

913
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if you.

914
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: Guys ever worked before, but you go to work. You

915
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: got people at that job that don't like their job.

916
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: You got people at that job they said, I'm coming

917
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: at nine, I'm leaving at five. Its it's how it

918
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: is in the world. Like it's not like just the NBA.

919
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: By the way, no, no, no, that you got fifteen players.

920
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: I said this earlier, like and they're all here for

921
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: different reasons. Some of them have talent. Someone want the money,

922
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: someone want the fame, someone want to be great. Some

923
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: of them just want to get eight to ten years

924
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: and stay out the way. Like you don't have fifteen guys,

925
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: and it's going to be like eat, sleep basketball. That's

926
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: just not reality. It's the same thing in the real life.

927
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: Like same thing in our professional coaching. Some guys come in,

928
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: stay a little bit, get out. It is with its life.

929
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: Who do you want to what do you want?

930
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: What do I want? Oh? Be honest, what I always say,

931
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 3: this contract will put me to ten years in maybe

932
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 3: three more after that, two three more more years and

933
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: then I'm out.

934
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: But to me, I think the ten years and I

935
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: tell everybody that should be to go for everybody from health,

936
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: health benefits. Just got to get teen here to take

937
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: care of your family kids.

938
00:47:59,440 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: You know.

939
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: A lot of guys just you know, get the money

940
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: and I don't need the health.

941
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: Yes you do. I got enough money. No you need

942
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 2: a health, says a dude that played nine years.

943
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have the talent to play the tenth or

944
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: I would have shut out the more cheeks.

945
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 5: I feel like this is a fitting question, especially because

946
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 5: we have a coach on the show. But do you

947
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 5: guys use sport Radars Synergy for film, study, matchups, et cetera.

948
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 2: Do we coach?

949
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 5: Do you guys use Synergy?

950
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: Oh?

951
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we use all the time.

952
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 5: Did you guys use in college too?

953
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. We didn't have accounts in college, but

954
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: I remember using it. Shinny's was big in college.

955
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 6: We use Synergy because it helps us for preparing for

956
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 6: games and everything. So, yes, we do use it. We

957
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 6: do use it very well, and I think all the

958
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 6: coaches enjoy it.

959
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: No, I mean we use it all the time. Like

960
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 3: for example, this morning, I was getting treatment and I

961
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: was looking at everything from last game. So I was

962
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: looking at my shots, I was looking at my turnovers, rebounds,

963
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 3: my defensive matchups. Are you saying, why why do you

964
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 3: chuckle when I said turnovers?

965
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 2: I just because you always have one bad or game

966
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 2: like really bad.

967
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 5: I don't have any really bad terms say that we said,

968
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 5: just give me one.

969
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: I don't have any really bad ones last game, so.

970
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: That means you have to the next game.

971
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 5: But okay, but my forgiveness rolls over where you left

972
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 5: your feet and transition and then.

973
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 3: I did no, I mean and Kat actually I think

974
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 3: he said it to you after the game. He like

975
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: walked up to me and he's like, okay, so you

976
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: just jump in the air and just figure it out

977
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 3: when you I was like, yeah, that's exactly what I do. So, yeah,

978
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: I did have the one. Well, I jumped in the air.

979
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 3: I thought Ogi was going to stay at the dunker

980
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 3: Pascal Siakam stepped up. He didn't, and then I try

981
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 3: to just it was going to be either travel or

982
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 3: the turnover. So but now, I mean I looked at

983
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: those and then obviously we're playing another game in a

984
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 3: couple of days, so looking at my matchup, see you know,

985
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: seeing how they're getting their shots, and then you know,

986
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 3: obviously talking just kind of think about how I'm going

987
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: to guard them. So use it every day just in

988
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: terms of, you know, getting better and then getting prepared

989
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 3: for the next game.

990
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: All right, oh it's here.

991
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, you with a problem.

992
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 6: I just have a I have a question. We don't

993
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 6: really talk about well, actually, I'll say this. We don't

994
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 6: talk about a lot. You know, we joke around a lot,

995
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 6: but we don't like sit down and like have conversations

996
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 6: really famly meetings. Oh, we have those, and those are

997
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 6: just this is like one of those meetings at work.

998
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 6: You just want to get through. Yeah. So we had

999
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 6: Marque on the pod last season and I told but

1000
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 6: I told him about the whole entire situation that we

1001
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 6: had in Dallas or whatever. All right, say what you

1002
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 6: want anything about it. The only part didn't I guess

1003
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 6: when he said the part when the parents got involved

1004
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 6: is when things got messy.

1005
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 3: M Yeah, I think he was talking about you.

1006
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 1: Well, let's make it great. It wasn't the parents. It

1007
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: was me and I didn't get involved. I've been involved.

1008
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: It's my son. I'm a coach first, well, and i'm

1009
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: a father first. I'm a coach. I understand the business

1010
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: mark where Carlisle, Jason Kidd loved them. They did great

1011
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: by him. It was a business decision on their part

1012
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: and we accepted that. But to say the.

1013
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: Busines decision to do what, Just to clarify the.

1014
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: Business decision was, they wanted you to go into a

1015
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: free agency and in which I would have done too,

1016
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 1: to see if you're gonna get to mid level or

1017
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: the fifty five and then they could match it or whatever. Right,

1018
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: that's a business decision, and I knew that I've been

1019
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: in the business too long not to understand the business.

1020
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: So to say the parents, I didn't like that, particularly

1021
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: because that's I played in this league. I understand how

1022
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: this works. And I we were never mad at him,

1023
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: you know so, but no shout out to Mark. I

1024
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: like Mark Cuban, and you know I saw Mark that

1025
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: summer in Vegas and things were cool. But at the

1026
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: end of the day, I hear what he's saying, but

1027
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: he has a job to do and my job is

1028
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: to protect you, period. And if that's how he felt,

1029
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure he didn't the same for his kids.

1030
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 5: Respect you're doing anything. They made it to the NBA Finals.

1031
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: I see success on both sides, So I think everyone

1032
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: is happy.

1033
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, who are either in your coaching or your

1034
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 5: playing career. Who's the best basketball minds You've ever spent

1035
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 5: time around? Best basketball minds you spend time around, whether

1036
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 5: it's coaching playing throughout your career.

1037
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: Well, the number one guy director is coach Coach Cheney.

1038
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: You know, the guy's a genius. I hear him in

1039
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: my head every day, you know what I'm saying. Obviously,

1040
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: coach Van Gundy tips don't Leavey was uh his dad.

1041
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: He's a really really good coach man some players and

1042
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: I got to get this in this interview. I always

1043
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: say my favorite teammate, or excuse me, my best teammate

1044
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: I've ever played at any level.

1045
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 2: There's Larry Johnson.

1046
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: And I say that all the time because he, I mean,

1047
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: he was just treated everyone the same. Now you remember

1048
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: Larry Johnson would be I don't know, you guys are

1049
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: all the same, like like Lebron James, Like he was

1050
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: like the man he was dead. He had you know,

1051
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: he was one of the highest paid. He's like one

1052
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: of the first guys get you know, the big money

1053
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: and man, he was the hardest working guy. He like

1054
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, how you guys come to the game he'd

1055
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 1: beat at three forty five in a full on sweat

1056
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: working like this guy is making big money back then,

1057
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: so he was one of my favorite teammates, you know.

1058
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: And then and I would say, and I hate to

1059
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: be biased, but like Patrick, you know, just watching him

1060
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: and how he went about his business, very very serious,

1061
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: didn't mess around, and I try to instill that in

1062
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 1: him about how to approach the game. But you know, Patrick,

1063
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: this reason why he was a Hall of Famer.

1064
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 6: I got a couple of questions, what's that. Have you

1065
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 6: ever felt like you you pushed me right too hard?

1066
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 6: Are you? Are you embarrassed me at any left? I

1067
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 6: just want to know. I just want to what comes

1068
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 6: into your mind when you think, oh, I push him

1069
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 6: too hard or I did too much right there in

1070
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 6: this moment. No, yeah, the one the one thing that

1071
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 6: always comes to mind is when we played my junior year.

1072
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 6: We played in the playoffs in high school. Mm hmm,

1073
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 6: and coach Tom Izzo was there. Oh no, yeah, and

1074
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 6: this this man, let me.

1075
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: Tell the story. So we're playing against the worst team

1076
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: in Illinois, the worst team, and it was like forty

1077
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: five minutes in the farm Land.

1078
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 2: And it was like the first game in playoffs, you.

1079
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: Know, the first on play against the worst team in

1080
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: the history of basketball. So and so comes. I'm like, is,

1081
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: I said, coach, it is a terrible game.

1082
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 2: I don't care. Comes jailing, all right.

1083
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: So everyone's rolling except him, like everyone's hitting shots. Now

1084
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: they up twenty thirty points. He knows about to come out.

1085
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: The guy starts gunning, like just shooting every like just

1086
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: going full cord, trying to just get his points. And

1087
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: I'm sitting I'm steaming, like embarrassing. I taught him better

1088
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: than that. Don't chase you know the game, don't chase points,

1089
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: play the right way. And then yeah, after the game,

1090
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: like the bleachers, like you know, they had the big

1091
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: old bleachers so you can like walk underneath Izzoe sitting

1092
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: right there. And I was like, yo, it was red.

1093
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: The game can get me. I like you, and I

1094
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: just like yeah, I said some some choice words, like

1095
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: you ever embarrass me like that, You ever chase points

1096
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: like that? I can kill you. You ever, you would never

1097
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: play this game. I just went crazy. It was like

1098
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: looking like it was probably sitting over there like and

1099
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: he like soon and you know, you know, okay, that

1100
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: walks away it's just like I want him right now.

1101
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 2: You gotta have his kid.

1102
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: But you know, it's just you know, that's probably one

1103
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: of the few selfish times that he had a couple

1104
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 1: of selfish moments.

1105
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 2: I can name him that game.

1106
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: There was like this one in Virginia, so you had

1107
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: to be I'll go by grades. I'll go by age seven,

1108
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: six or seventh grade. He was in a tournament and

1109
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 1: you or whatever, and he was scared of his mind,

1110
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: playing like he was scared. He was shooting freet through

1111
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: in the middle of freet though. Gym was a small gym,

1112
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: so basically it's a referee. There's a wall and referee.

1113
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: I walked, as you said, I walked past him like

1114
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, on the baseline, like he knew I was

1115
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: going home, just left the game.

1116
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 2: How to have my watching this man?

1117
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: Then this when he was an All American, he smelling

1118
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: himself he's the man he like everyone you know, tell

1119
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: my grade. He was high school speace Au tournament.

1120
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I wasn't.

1121
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 6: All American yet, No, no, no, it's my first.

1122
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 2: It's my first tenth grade.

1123
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so he was good, right, and eight o'clock

1124
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: Au game, he brother didn't want to be there. It's

1125
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: six hour drive from Chicago to four win Indiana was

1126
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: for four hours, but time change and I and I

1127
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: in the meeting. So with them social media people come

1128
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: over and.

1129
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 2: You know how like they like rivals or whatever.

1130
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went, you want to f a picture with him?

1131
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: I think nothing, like, I want to get out of here.

1132
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: I took my side, screaming on them, you know, And

1133
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: the last one was, uh, I was so mad. Tenth

1134
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: grade again, we go to uh, what's that thing called?

1135
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: In Atlanta, Augustine. He was scared of his mine, scared.

1136
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: He had a little brown standing in the show. It

1137
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: didn't all right, Lie, that is playing seventeens, so he's

1138
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: up right. He was playing, but he was scared playing

1139
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: against Boue Williams. Matter of fact, Band was on that team.

1140
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: Band was on the team thought thorn maker and the

1141
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: point guy. I don't know his name, but he played

1142
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: in Indiana. Really good player, but I don't know his name.

1143
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: Went to Indian Darksky guy DC area of Virginia area.

1144
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: He was a solid player in Indiana. He's a year

1145
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: ahead of you, t year Eddie whatever it was, and

1146
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: he was lighting him up. Like just tripping him and

1147
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: stand forget his name, No, I wouldn't. He was.

1148
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 6: He did?

1149
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 2: I look it up.

1150
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: But anyways, remember that and I went on, Oh my god,

1151
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to kill him, man. So that's what I

1152
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: made him.

1153
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: Your tenth grade year.

1154
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: It would have been your senior in high school.

1155
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 3: Senior high school twenty. I said, I had to be

1156
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 3: Troy Betroy with lengthy though it ain't.

1157
00:59:54,440 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, brown skinned guy. H pick up Indiana,

1158
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: who's yours team? Two thousand and fifteen, I've been his freshman.

1159
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: Year was the one with the weird hair. It wasn't

1160
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 3: no do what they had, like the little salt and

1161
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 3: pepper hair.

1162
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: No, because that's James black Man.

1163
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I saying.

1164
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: And he's he's from Indiana. This guy's from Virginia, DC.

1165
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 3: Here the one that that went there went the Indiana

1166
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 3: from yeah, Indiana, right, it couldn't be staying bro because

1167
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 3: Rob Rob Johnson, Yeah, I remember.

1168
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: That's him, y yeah, yeah, jelling him. Guess what happened?

1169
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: We drove from Chicago to Augusta.

1170
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 3: Dang.

1171
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: See the game was old with everyone got in a shower.

1172
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: Uh huh, we're leaving. Get in the car, drove all

1173
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: the way in Chicago. No showers.

1174
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: That's what matter. Now, that's going man.

1175
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: And then he did. He fell asleep and had a

1176
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: nerd that had a sweaty sock.

1177
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 2: You know, you put him up on my knee. Was barking,

1178
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: come on your feet, man, that's crazy. But every time

1179
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: we did that next game, I came back out of

1180
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: the game. Every time.

1181
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: The one thing about Jailen and I al ways say this,

1182
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: I would say something nice about you what makes him good?

1183
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: Which which just amazing as me is I could I

1184
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: do this now like he'd be old for five from three?

1185
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: You know, when I do this, I'm saying some choice work,

1186
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: some shooting, like look crazy man, it's like you gotta

1187
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: get into pain. Blah blah blah. He gonna come right

1188
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: back and shoot a three and look at you he had.

1189
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: He's so headstrong. He's gonna prove that he can do

1190
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: something you said he couldn't do. And that's what makes

1191
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: him good. But also it frustrates me.

1192
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: Sometimes.

1193
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 3: This segment is brought to you by Macy's Motive One

1194
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 3: for the style as simple yet bold.

1195
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 6: Anyway, we knew this conversation is gonna happen at one point.

1196
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 6: But twenty year year old me versus twenty year old

1197
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 6: year man both in your prime.

1198
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: I don't think I ever had a prime.

1199
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,439
Speaker 2: Prime wasn't twenty eight either.

1200
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: But I would say this those who don't know me,

1201
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: I was a defender, This would be harder scoring me.

1202
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 3: I wasn't.

1203
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't score. So the defense wins, right, I was

1204
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 1: a defender. I was like company some of you arch,

1205
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: hard nose, black and guard arch.

1206
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 2: That's the case. I am definitely winning, no, because I'm

1207
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 2: definitely winning nothing nothing easy, nothing easy.

1208
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:43,479
Speaker 5: This is another one. So we have everyone is age

1209
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 5: twenty eight, Josh and McHale versus ricking Jalen.

1210
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: What's the score Josh, McHale.

1211
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 3: Oh me and Michel?

1212
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 5: No?

1213
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 3: I me Michael Michel locking that up? Who I'm not

1214
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 3: even worry about it.

1215
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 2: So that's Michel that his first game.

1216
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: I didn't sign that me though, you just.

1217
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 3: So that's done, and you know what I'm saying, like,

1218
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:11,919
Speaker 3: we can't say till the out.

1219
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: So John locking that up, that means excuse me, Michael.

1220
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 3: And that will be we have to figure out.

1221
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 2: Better than that day.

1222
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 3: Brother, I got no respect, man, I'm but I'm just saying,

1223
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 3: be a good game.

1224
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: It would be a hack best absolutely eleven.

1225
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 3: Not us, no Levan, not good guys.

1226
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 2: I promise you we're winning game. No promise you.

1227
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 6: I don't you understand it's easier scoring you Michael. What

1228
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 6: how I just trusted man, I've scored when we put

1229
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 6: against you. I've always played well against you. Play against Michael.

1230
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 6: I played always well against mikel Easier to score you, guys.

1231
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 6: I know, Hey, you guys play you jump for everything.

1232
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,479
Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't jump everything.

1233
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 2: The kilsers keep you in front and just can test

1234
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: you so all. I need a space.

1235
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 3: You're not giving you space. You can't go back. You

1236
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 3: ain't athletic enough to go past them. What do you

1237
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 3: think she turned her head from you.

1238
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: You She's got jerseys of them.

1239
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 3: You don't have to be a pro to make bold

1240
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 3: moves with Macy's motive one.

1241
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 2: Yo, Josh.

1242
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 6: Now this November, I'm really starting to like my motive

1243
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 6: on sweater. There's so much versatility and swag. It makes

1244
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 6: it so comfortable just to go outside and feit warm

1245
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 6: and fresh. It's officially sweater weather, and with the holiday

1246
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 6: season approaching, Motive one is all about blending elevated every

1247
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,560
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1248
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 6: holiday parties.

1249
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,000
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1250
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1251
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 3: Motive one having to cover for whatever mode I'm in.

1252
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 3: I love wearing my bomber jacket because it's not only cozy,

1253
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 3: but it also fits my vibe and it's elevated basic.

1254
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 3: I wore a bunch of fun cord jackets at our

1255
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 3: shoot and launch party too.

1256
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 6: As a professional ath the right fit is everything. What

1257
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 6: I wear has a huge impact on keep me focused

1258
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 6: and ready, whether I'm on or off the court, on

1259
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 6: the road, or celebrating the holidays.

1260
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 3: Motive One is a brand designed for those who use

1261
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 3: style as a reflection or the individuality I love. Is

1262
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,840
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1263
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 5: So obviously you have a baby, girl, Say you have

1264
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 5: another kid and it's a boy. What will what will

1265
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 5: you take from your dad's approach? And what will you

1266
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 5: make him left handed? Okay, make her left handed? Are

1267
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 5: you already are you already doing it?

1268
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm doing the training though, Oh yeah, yeah, he

1269
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 2: got it?

1270
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 5: For sure.

1271
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 2: I'll be there to watch.

1272
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 5: But do you think will you be if you have

1273
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 5: a son who wants to play at the highest level,

1274
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 5: do you think you'll be able to like the way

1275
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 5: the approach that your dad took with you in terms of.

1276
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: How hard he was, will you be able to go there?

1277
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 2: Will be able to do that? Not not the way

1278
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 2: he did it.

1279
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 5: I just different demeanors, different demeanor, but.

1280
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 6: Like I know who I am, right, Like we're different people,

1281
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 6: Like we're we're saying competitor for different people.

1282
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: I feel like I can push.

1283
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 6: I'll be able to push somebody or push a sauna

1284
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 6: or my daughter for sure, but hopefully.

1285
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 5: That's something why I went right to might want to

1286
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 5: play the w Yeah, sure, but pushing a baby girl

1287
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 5: and you.

1288
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 6: Know it would be it would be different, but the

1289
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 6: approach and everything will still be there the same. I

1290
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 6: just know how he was, I know how it was

1291
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 6: towards me, and it's like I was able to do that,

1292
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 6: but I don't know if there's new generation.

1293
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: Will be able to do that. But let's does not

1294
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 2: make it. Let's make it clear.

1295
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: Though I pushed his sister the same way, she she's

1296
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: a stop.

1297
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: I'm not him.

1298
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Erica has will work out with him, so I

1299
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: do the drills about Erica to follow him like she

1300
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: was starting. Erica was good.

1301
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: Erica has the prettiest I'm shoy in the family. She

1302
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 2: could shoot.

1303
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: She has the prettiest right smart understood the game. She

1304
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: was too smart because she would tell I don't care

1305
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: now because he don't think he's coach anymore. Her high

1306
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: shoot coach at Cheryl East, she knew more than him.

1307
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: She would come home and said, he don't know what

1308
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: he's doing. I'm like, Erica, you listening to me and

1309
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 1: your brother, you can't be a coach. He a teacher,

1310
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: Like listen, Nah, he don't know what he's doing.

1311
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 2: He need to do this, he need to do that.

1312
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: Very smart. Erica didn't like to sweat wan.

1313
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 6: I'm not so also what he just said, like to

1314
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 6: his credit, like whenever I he never coached me on

1315
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 6: a team, but when we went to when I played

1316
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 6: in college, high school, officer of college, like high school

1317
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 6: or any other team, he would let that coach coach

1318
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 6: like he wouldn't be like, oh damn, you gotta do this,

1319
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 6: this and this, Like he would push me and teach

1320
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 6: me in the system of what I'm being coached.

1321
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: I never let guys coach because to me, like for me,

1322
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 1: I always thought like, you have to learn to play

1323
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 1: for different people, different styles. Like I thought A was

1324
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 1: like you know that, that's like it's a ship show.

1325
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: But I thought for him because he was so everything

1326
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: was so like okay, everything was structured, and A was

1327
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: so chaotic, I thought it was good for hi us.

1328
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: You got to learn to play through this stuff, man,

1329
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: it to help you in life.

1330
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 2: It was definitely. I remember the last A game. I

1331
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 2: was so happy, Man, this is over. The last game

1332
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 2: I didn't want to play. It was crazy.

1333
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: But there's a story about speaking about Erica. Well, I

1334
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 1: think you said that game too. So taking my hard

1335
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: work and putting the work in Down one, Erica gets fouled.

1336
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 2: Two seconds.

1337
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: Game over. Make two, we win Down one. You were there, right,

1338
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: and he was came from villa two shots to win

1339
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: the game. She ain't making these clank clank starts crying.

1340
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: What's he going for? You don't work out all summer?

1341
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: Don't cry, but might let's go we go home.

1342
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 2: It's fun.

1343
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: You said you want that fun.

1344
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 2: She didn't.

1345
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 1: You didn't take one of those summer.

1346
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: Don't make it.

1347
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 5: I'm picturing Erica listening to this episode in a few

1348
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 5: days when she's throwing her notes. She's like cut that.

1349
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 2: Eric was like okay, well, she was more crying. She

1350
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 2: thought I was gonna be able to I'm not upset.

1351
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 5: That is one thing that both you guys, I feel

1352
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 5: like I've said when this has come up in conversation,

1353
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 5: you said, from the moment they tell me they want it,

1354
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 5: that's when I'll turn it on. But if they don't

1355
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 5: tell me they want it, then I'm telling if.

1356
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 3: They don't want to play, bro, I'm not going to

1357
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 3: force them to play. They do whatever they want to do.

1358
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 3: I don't care.

1359
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: Your kids may help you out, bro, No no, no, no,

1360
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: let me tell you something, okay, because maybe you can't

1361
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: say that they have to tell you because I don't

1362
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: think they are mature enough to tell you. You have

1363
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,600
Speaker 1: to have a feel because to me, you have to

1364
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,520
Speaker 1: push your kids because that's all you know is basketball.

1365
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: So it's like a guy who wants the kid to

1366
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: be a lawyer, right, you push them like I don't

1367
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: think if they say I don't want to do it,

1368
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: I disagree with that. Push them into like I pushed

1369
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: Erica into I said, she doesn't have an enter to

1370
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: be a scholarship.

1371
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,679
Speaker 2: She doesn't have that in her to be a schoolship.

1372
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I push other things and.

1373
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 3: That's more fourteen fifteen Yeah yeah, yeah.

1374
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: To me, I think a lot of parents, you know,

1375
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: over push their kids who don't even have that talent,

1376
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 1: you know. So to me, you have to read the

1377
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 1: room and read your job, like if they have the talent.

1378
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: So sometimes you know, like let's say your kid is

1379
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: six a hass talent, but he don't have the drive,

1380
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: and is your job? Is your job to give him drive?

1381
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 2: You can't? To me, that's that's what people make mistakes.

1382
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 5: Well, I don't have to worry about having a six

1383
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 5: age unfortunately about five to two.

1384
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all have like I have, like

1385
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 3: a good lawyer or something.

1386
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 5: The doctor appreciate it.

1387
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, good podcast, Yeah exactly, you know, have their own

1388
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 3: it'll be good take over.

1389
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, we just talked about AU and a game

1390
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 6: and I got barked up.

1391
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 2: When you were aware of Josh? Really, what was that?

1392
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 5: I was not?

1393
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 3: Oh?

1394
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 2: I was not when he threw you through the wall. Yeah,

1395
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 2: what do you do?

1396
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 3: You called him snitch? He put.

1397
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 2: I was about him rarely and I'm not he never again. People.

1398
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: I didn't know you guys, because you asked him a question.

1399
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure you talked to before. He barely he tells

1400
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: you anything. How did go in? It was good?

1401
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 2: What happened?

1402
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: Uh, it's very so I left it alone. He did

1403
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 1: call me, You did call me by that I had, Bro.

1404
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: I said, I'm on my way up there, Man, what's up.

1405
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, no, we're good.

1406
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 2: But you know he's crazy.

1407
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 3: Bro.

1408
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 6: I'm like, I would to understand, Bro, like what actually

1409
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 6: happened that day? I think you actually blacked out.

1410
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 3: It was so I'm gonna tell you exactly. Did he

1411
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:29,839
Speaker 3: tell you the whole story of how it happened?

1412
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1413
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. So at the top of the key, and you know,

1414
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 3: like Coach Wright practices like you're you're a defender, you're

1415
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 3: supposed to be, you know, kind of pressing up, you know,

1416
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,839
Speaker 3: on them, ball pressure, all that stuff. So that happened.

1417
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 3: And then on the other side, on the offen, the

1418
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 3: player is supposed to be like strong with the ball, pivot,

1419
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 3: do all that stuff. So I'm doing I was supposed

1420
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 3: to do. He's doing what he's supposed to do. But

1421
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 3: when he pivots to go pass the ball to the

1422
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 3: other side of the court, he just hits me with

1423
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 3: the elbow, this clean bow, and pasted it. And we

1424
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 3: actually looked at the film I think like a day

1425
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 3: or two after, and it was like at that moment,

1426
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 3: like he looked at me and I looked at him,

1427
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 3: and it was like I.

1428
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 2: Knew exactly what happened.

1429
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 3: I don't know how, but I'm getting I'm getting this

1430
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 3: lock back. I don't know how. I don't know what's

1431
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 3: going to happen, but it's going to happen.

1432
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:24,879
Speaker 2: Before you continue.

1433
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 6: Literally r at the top of the key, so both

1434
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 6: sides are still playing. Me and Joshualy is staying on

1435
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 6: top of the key, just like looking at each other.

1436
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 3: Everything else going on, We're just stopped.

1437
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 6: And then I cut to the basket. I catched the ball.

1438
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 6: I don't even shoot. I was like, I just I

1439
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 6: know something's about to happen. I just feel my body

1440
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 6: getting like thrown to the wall. The ball drops, Josh

1441
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 6: gets the ball, beams it at me, and everyone just

1442
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 6: just like staring at Josh like like what are you doing.

1443
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 3: I was good after them.

1444
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: To practice if I was a practice, but I always

1445
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: have just spent I explained to him about friendship. See,

1446
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm always a dad always telling me, man, I have

1447
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: college friends that we fought but we're still friends.

1448
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: Like it happens so and then I forget.

1449
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,560
Speaker 6: One time, uh he got mad at me for he

1450
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 6: was like, he said, I'm a dad, all right, And

1451
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 6: one time he got mad at me. I don't know

1452
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 6: if you remember this. He was like he'd be yelling

1453
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 6: me about something. I was like, everything gotta be a

1454
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 6: damn learning experience.

1455
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 2: Huh.

1456
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 3: I was like, just.

1457
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 6: He got he got hot at me and started probably

1458
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 6: crushing me on again. But yeah, he's just he doesn't.

1459
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: Let's make it clear though, since we like, since this

1460
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: is a stated like, I wasn't like this crazy father.

1461
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 2: No, no, it wasn't crazy.

1462
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 3: He was a crazy just walking around with the ball.

1463
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 1: I thought I was a fun dad, like you know,

1464
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 1: just oh well, I mean you were first of all

1465
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: I was. I was not the strict one. Y'all want

1466
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 1: to do something, y'all come ask me. She didn't let

1467
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: y'all do anything. Really, I thought it was the way around.

1468
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: I was not the strict I was just like yeah, da, yeah,

1469
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: go ahead, man, me, not not Billboard saying she was like,

1470
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: they can't go, they can't stay over there. They let

1471
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: him stay over there.

1472
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:23,919
Speaker 5: They got their working.

1473
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 2: Y'all came to me when y'all wanted. It's true. I

1474
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 2: was the fun guy.

1475
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: Dang when I got you know, you know you got

1476
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: the bad rat for no man like I'm this crazy.

1477
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 2: Because I have this stork.

1478
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,560
Speaker 1: Look when I'm watching the game, Andy get high schooler like,

1479
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm not talking nobody. I'm just I'm trying to watch

1480
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: so I can teach after them. And people ask you question,

1481
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: shut up like shout out to Jack, asked Jack, Yeah,

1482
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm in Dallas. I'm watching again, jail Jack. Shut that

1483
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 1: f up man watching the game. I don't like to

1484
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 1: talk to No, I don't want to watch the game there.

1485
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: In high school, he would sit far away from my mom.

1486
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 5: I nothing like that.

1487
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: One chair.

1488
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 2: That What do you think he doing? I don't know.

1489
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 2: You keep talking.

1490
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 3: Dan my man, look you may you may have my

1491
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 3: man get the bad rap the little time. Come to

1492
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 3: find out he was the coach right with the fund.

1493
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 2: Back go back.

1494
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 5: I was how coach right requested that you stop jailing

1495
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 5: out after practice? Did that last?

1496
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 2: Never?

1497
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: I respected coach right and I love the coach right there.

1498
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: But as he said, I would teach him. He would

1499
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 1: coach Wright tell him how to play and his system,

1500
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: and I said, make sure you play off two feet

1501
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But when you get to this level,

1502
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 1: if you gotta so, we will practice things that I

1503
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 1: knew that I was still would need that as well.

1504
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:55,759
Speaker 1: But you think I was in there going for two hours,

1505
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: It'll be twenty minutes.

1506
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 3: You think I ain't saying I.

1507
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: Don't keeping the gym twenty Let's get twenty minutes of

1508
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: quick show shooting. Let's get out of here.

1509
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 6: Like there was one time he came to the dorm

1510
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 6: and I was passed out, passed out, get up. I

1511
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 6: was like, just go you sleep now you you say,

1512
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 6: go back to sleep, I'm out.

1513
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1514
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1515
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 2: I never like, yeah, he gets a bad rap.

1516
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 5: He was.

1517
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: He was.

1518
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 2: He was the cool.

1519
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: I asked questions, you good, you want to work, you

1520
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: want to get some shots up? Most times you said yeah,

1521
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: because he thinks like he's gonna get trouble. He said, no,

1522
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: I tell you this, dog. I came unannounced to the

1523
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: dorms all the time in the four years that Eric

1524
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: was there now one time I.

1525
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 2: Come, it was allowed to come.

1526
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 3: Look, I want your stuff on campus. I'm gonna let

1527
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Speaker 3: you notice, right, Well, come up here Jane Jalen's room.

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01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 5: Cool like cool fact.

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01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 3: Nang picture scrolling.

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Speaker 6: One more one more question for the picture and scrolling.

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01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 6: I don't think people truly understand the relationship between you

1532
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 6: and Leon.

1533
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy. So how did that start?

1534
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 6: And for people who don't know, Leon saw me before,

1535
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,679
Speaker 6: my dad saw me before as a kid.

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01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 1: So Leon, So they don't get mad at this, but

1537
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 1: it's true. So Leon went to Temple Law School, so

1538
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: he was around when I was there. He was in

1539
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 1: law school while I placed where he loved Coach Cheney

1540
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 1: would come to games and stuff. And I was a

1541
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: junior and there were two guys there were seniors that

1542
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: were like lottery picks, Addie Jones Aaron McKee, and everyone

1543
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,759
Speaker 1: wanted them. So Leon was like recruiting him and always

1544
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: telling the story like like Leon won't even look at me.

1545
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: He was they just he wanted EDDI in there, and

1546
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,839
Speaker 1: I thought I was good. You know, you're in college.

1547
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 1: And so for a whole year he never like really

1548
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: acknowledged me, and then Eddie and Aaron went with somebody else.

1549
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 1: Bah blah blah. So the next year I went. My

1550
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: time came up and I had I resented him because

1551
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, man, he messed with him. So I went

1552
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: with Andy Miller was my first agent, right, and then

1553
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 1: whatever the drift came blah blah blah blah. Things didn't

1554
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 1: work out.

1555
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 2: Coach.

1556
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 1: I went to coach, Coach, I need a new agent

1557
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:35,799
Speaker 1: because I didn't even talked to my agent. Hired Leon Rose. Okay,

1558
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 1: give me the address. Went to his job where his office,

1559
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 1: and I was nineteen ninety five. I met Leon Rose.

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01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,560
Speaker 1: It was July because the drift was in June. A

1561
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,600
Speaker 1: couple of weeks later it was July. I go to

1562
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 1: Leon and we been brothers ever since. Man, it's crazy

1563
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 1: because he always said I went to Australia my first

1564
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: year out of college. Leon said his phone bill was

1565
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: more than his commission. I used to call him like

1566
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: every day. Back back then, we didn't have like cell phones.

1567
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: There was a cable over there. Yeah. So when he

1568
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: was born, he was born in nineteen ninety six, I

1569
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: was in Australia. I remember, Australia's opposite. So when the

1570
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 1: summer here it's wintered there, so that's how they did

1571
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: the season too. You were playing in the winter time.

1572
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: So I left February. It's it's now they mirror the

1573
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 1: NBA season, but when I was playing, it was so

1574
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 1: I was over there during our summer, so February. He

1575
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,879
Speaker 1: was born in August and there was Olympic here in Atlanta,

1576
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: so we had a month off, but I couldn't fly home.

1577
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, Leon Yeh is the one to call me

1578
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: inside the baby boy. He called, you know, the team

1579
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: and they got it a boy. I had a game

1580
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 1: that night.

1581
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 5: What was your first thought when Leon told you he

1582
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 5: was going to be going from the being an agent

1583
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 5: to the front office.

1584
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 2: It was crazy. There's there's a crazy story. I went,

1585
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 2: oh my god, I remember this. I was working.

1586
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: I was coaching at Camon High and I was a

1587
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 1: substitute teacher. It's seven thirty in the morning and I

1588
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 1: called him. I called him about something seventh third in

1589
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: the morning.

1590
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 2: We were talking. What's he's hen? He was, Yeah, I

1591
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 2: might have been my second year.

1592
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: I probably was calling about him or something seventh three

1593
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: in the morning. Talked to for thirty minutes walking to

1594
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 1: the school. You know, I hate to say this on

1595
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: I was a substitute. I put my iPad out when

1596
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:32,879
Speaker 1: I'm a sub I told the kids.

1597
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 2: Sign in so cussing.

1598
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: I got my iPad. Leon Rose next president. I'm like, yo,

1599
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: the guy never even told me. I'm on the phone

1600
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I call him.

1601
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 2: Back, like yo, it wasn't official. He got official in

1602
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 2: thirty minutes. So yeah, I was man. But it was

1603
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 2: always so excited for him. Man, it's just man.

1604
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 1: People don't realize. He was a thousand points scoring in

1605
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: high school, a cheer hill. He went to college play basketball.

1606
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: Dickinson's like he's a basketball he coached high school. Leon

1607
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 1: loves hoops and in the summertime to be surprised at

1608
01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: this one.

1609
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 2: So all the men's leagues.

1610
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: I will go play in all the men's leagues, and

1611
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 1: Liam was on my team every me And that's why

1612
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 1: leone like you. Leon led the league, the men league

1613
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 1: and texts there you go. Leon was ruthless man.

1614
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:25,440
Speaker 2: He was competitive.

1615
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 1: Make a bad call, you'd be on you. Lion'st a

1616
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: lot of texts, but no, man, it was just great man.

1617
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 1: That man. For him to be the president, it was

1618
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: just he just loves hoops and you know he's a

1619
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 1: he's a coach. I hurt he loves basketball.

1620
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 5: What about seeing Jalen and Sam work together?

1621
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 1: That was that was going to happen no matter what.

1622
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: We We used to joke about that when they were

1623
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: growing up, but that was going to happen eventually. That

1624
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: was like, that's going to happen. To keep it in

1625
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: the family. Man, it's like you can't even can't even

1626
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,799
Speaker 1: write this, man is crazy. This is like crazy.

1627
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 5: Can you talk about from your perspective, how you've grown

1628
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 5: in your career and Sam's grown in his and how

1629
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 5: you guys have, like what that partnership has been like.

1630
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 6: To be honest, I don't even think of it as

1631
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 6: a partnership. It's like it's family relation. Yeah, it's our relationships.

1632
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:23,679
Speaker 6: Never it's not like client agent relationship, and that's like family.

1633
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 6: So I don't even I literally don't even think about

1634
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 6: it as like that's managing this is my brother Sam,

1635
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 6: Like that's that's how it is. So it's kind of crazy,

1636
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 6: like you said, like how how things are how they

1637
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 6: are now?

1638
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 2: Wild? Yeah? Absolutely wild?

1639
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:47,879
Speaker 1: So in another week is Halloween, right, Zama? So nineteen

1640
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 1: ninety seven.

1641
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,759
Speaker 3: I mean years ago with that, that was twenty seven years.

1642
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have pictures. Oh my god.

1643
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: First Halloween trick or treating, he was Blues Clues and

1644
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: Brooke was Tiger.

1645
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 2: Or somebody and I forget and we went took him.

1646
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 5: You said that was your worst Halloween costume. Remember it

1647
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 5: was you love Blues Clues.

1648
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: I love Blues Clues every morning, cried and watch that

1649
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 1: was a guy name male time.

1650
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 2: No, no, it was cool.

1651
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 1: I really liked it.

1652
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 6: But then I remember when it came out, like a

1653
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 6: picture came out like a maybe last year, but like

1654
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 6: recently it was like Blues, like the girl the dog

1655
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 6: Blue was a girl.

1656
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 2: But his favorite cartoon or whatever you call it character

1657
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 2: it was a.

1658
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: Dragon ball ZH. Absolutely he was staying in.

1659
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:47,679
Speaker 3: The shower for hours, taking a long shower.

1660
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: No, no, no, he would so dragon ball Z. I

1661
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 1: don't know, you guys gotta look this up. I think

1662
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: he would have his powers, like he would throw his

1663
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 1: hands down and in the water or something. But hit

1664
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: him right well, he thought, with the gloves on. Yeah,

1665
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: the glove.

1666
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's crazy. And I'm like, now you can run

1667
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 2: the water below.

1668
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 6: No, this can we get back to Coach Brunson stead

1669
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,360
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Speaker 2: I just need to make one more and I'm good.

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01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 3: I was watching to oh damn.

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01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 6: Right before I went to the shoot. It says, yo,

1738
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 6: if you you win this, you can help me finish

1739
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 6: my basement.

1740
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: Hate at fawn basement.

1741
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 2: Man, he was actually mad though. He leave me his

1742
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 2: life so close, so far.

1743
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 3: Right there.

1744
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 5: Whoa, they do their research over here, they do their research.

1745
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,839
Speaker 1: There's a story behind this guy. That's the guy from Milwaukee.

1746
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 1: Is that hold up? Is that no?

1747
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: That's not that's pack that's Pat Connington.

1748
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 1: Is actually, yeah, you wanted hoops heavy What is this

1749
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: Boston something?

1750
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 3: Hoop heavyweights?

1751
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: There's a story behind Pat Connington. I was at University

1752
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 1: of Hartford assistant coach and I was I went to

1753
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 1: recruit him and I remember he played center. I came

1754
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 1: back I said, you know, you ain't good enough, you

1755
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 1: can't play here and game and he but he was

1756
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: also you know, he got drafted in baseball. He was

1757
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 1: like a good time. But I remember going back and said, nah,

1758
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 1: he can't play here, man, they ain't good enough And

1759
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 1: ended up going to day.

1760
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 2: That tells you I'm not really good.

1761
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 3: At the scout.

1762
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 1: That's my guy God the prom. No, so that's my

1763
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: that was my my high school center.

1764
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 2: George.

1765
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 1: Shout out to George McDonald and we took this. That

1766
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:30,600
Speaker 1: was a sketch. There was a picture they did a

1767
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 1: schedule in high school and like all our games on

1768
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 1: the back and then this is a picture on the front.

1769
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 1: We were big time in high school.

1770
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 2: Damn. I was smooth at Worldwide wi JJ Living. Every

1771
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 2: podcast is dreamed. The ability to say what I told

1772
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 2: you so what.

1773
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 3: It's basic like j J used to used to be.

1774
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 3: You know, I used to have his own podcast or whatever,

1775
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 3: and everybody always gives their two cents and they rarely

1776
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 3: have a right. But now he three and oh so

1777
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 3: uh you can sit there and be like, yeah, I'll

1778
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 3: tell y'all. So like what I say is right? Yeah, man,

1779
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 3: so I would say, shout out to j J three

1780
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 3: and now.

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01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 5: So from a coach's perspective, have you have you watched

1782
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 5: any of the Lakers this year? What do you think

1783
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 5: the biggest differences are? Like, what are the same roster? Right?

1784
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 5: Different coach?

1785
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 2: Three straight home games?

1786
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 3: Okay mm hmm. I haven't been on the road yet,

1787
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 3: so you're not you're not sold yet?

1788
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, you got Lebron James and a d

1789
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 1: I've been sold. But it's just it's a good league. Though.

1790
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 3: Man, it's a long season up and down. J J

1791
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 3: is good.

1792
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 1: But listen, man, sometimes it's just a different voice. Sometimes

1793
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: people different voices better at times. Maybe they thought it was.

1794
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: But it's a long year. M Oh my god.

1795
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 3: Oh it's Seattle and elite basketball.

1796
01:31:55,880 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 2: But those those yrs were sick. Yeah, those those might.

1797
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 1: Be you put up the worst team I played for

1798
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 1: Great City though, No, no, not not because they were

1799
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 1: a bad I finally get that was the first time

1800
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:14,639
Speaker 1: I ever got a guarantee contract and I got hurt.

1801
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:16,799
Speaker 1: Plan of fact, that had to be in a preseason.

1802
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 1: I barely played at Plano. Fast shot is so bad

1803
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 1: it was terrible to end up tearing up my penefaction.

1804
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 6: Should we invite whoever wears the number five Bruns STNG

1805
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 6: jerseys that we gotta find that if we can find,

1806
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 6: we still have one.

1807
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:42,400
Speaker 3: Let me get one, bro, I got my next one.

1808
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: Let me get let me get one. Let me get

1809
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 1: brock Dad Bro.

1810
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:46,600
Speaker 2: It's crazy. I really want like I have.

1811
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 6: We have the Knicks final jersey hanging up in the house,

1812
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 6: all right, I'll say I would really love that, like,

1813
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 6: you know, to put in my house like next to

1814
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 6: like my next jersey whatever. But give the Erica instead.

1815
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:02,640
Speaker 2: Erica, you know.

1816
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 1: Because it says NBA Finals patch. So you want one,

1817
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: get you an NBA Finals patch.

1818
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1819
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 2: Go to look at me. You in the same boat.

1820
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 1: You're the captain.

1821
01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 3: Whoa this is in Disney? Yeah, what team is this?

1822
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 2: You know who's on that team? Von Carter von Carter

1823
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 2: right next to me, school Field on the team. Air

1824
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 2: was on that team though, von Carter was on that team.

1825
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 5: That's crazy.

1826
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:41,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, back in the day, you know Javon Carter that

1827
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 6: you see in the n b A. Imagine waking up

1828
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 6: at eight am playing against us.

1829
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 3: And there bro eight a m brother the ball. I

1830
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 3: don't want to do this here?

1831
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 2: Who who's the point? I'm like, he got it? Yeah,

1832
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 2: go do it man.

1833
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 5: The Yeah that sounds miserable. On your seventh game of

1834
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 5: the weekend, belly full of Wendy's fact, whoa, yeah you look.

1835
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 3: Crazy dog team bad. But I don't know why I

1836
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 3: had to play for Takeover. Yeah we were solid Takeovers right. Yeah.

1837
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is back when you're your Twitter with team

1838
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 5: Nike heart yeah, but humble and hungry.

1839
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:25,760
Speaker 3: Bad hairstylee too.

1840
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 1: Ah you I gotta so.

1841
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 2: I got a little story about you. I worked.

1842
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant's camp at your high school. Is your freshman year?

1843
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 1: I mean your fresh year because everybody had villain over

1844
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 1: shirts and.

1845
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh mm hmm, what's about the player going there?

1846
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 5: When they just redone the new gym?

1847
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 2: Right?

1848
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 1: It was nice?

1849
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 5: It was nice. I had like the track above.

1850
01:34:59,200 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah.

1851
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 5: We also every episode we post on Twitter Instagram who's

1852
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 5: coming on and they actually ask questions that we got

1853
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 5: some questions for you.

1854
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 6: I can't I can't read that mea cover Miyama. How

1855
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 6: did it feel to become a grandfather?

1856
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 1: Man? That was It's still crazy man, the fact that

1857
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: you got a child, because I always tell people and

1858
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 1: let seeing if you both of you guys, when you

1859
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: have a child and you get older like now, like

1860
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 1: your parents probably feel the same I do. They don't

1861
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:37,680
Speaker 1: look at Josh and I don't look at him as

1862
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 1: twenty eight year old Jalen. I just know you as

1863
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 1: that kid, Like that's why I see that face is

1864
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 1: the kid I see every day. I don't look at

1865
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: the man that he is, and you're gonna feel the

1866
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: same about your kids. No matter how old they get.

1867
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 1: There's always going to be they're a little kid, So

1868
01:35:56,479 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 1: to be a grandfather is special. Its crazy, But I'm

1869
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,479
Speaker 1: more happy for you because you're going to experience the

1870
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 1: things that I experience.

1871
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:07,639
Speaker 2: And I can say I told you see.

1872
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, a fly here, fly you can fly underscore KT.

1873
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 3: Who pays a check when you're in jail and or

1874
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:16,839
Speaker 3: at a restaurant?

1875
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 1: That's a great question. So he's in Dallas on multiple occasions.

1876
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 1: We will go out to eat right with your mom

1877
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,519
Speaker 1: and she studied paying the bill. You remember that? And

1878
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 1: I one day I said, listen, my whole hold you

1879
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:32,880
Speaker 1: in the n b A.

1880
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:34,839
Speaker 2: You gotta pay for the dinners.

1881
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 1: And would you say mom always paid for dinner when

1882
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 1: he was in high school. He didn't know that my

1883
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:46,600
Speaker 1: mother had a my card, so mom was paying. It

1884
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 1: was my car because I because I know I ain't

1885
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 1: got a car.

1886
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 2: Josh, Josh, Josh. Every day. This is why he doesn't

1887
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 2: have a card.

1888
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 6: Every day, I get an email right every single day.

1889
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 6: Your Nike Elite order is being processed every single every

1890
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 6: single day. So I'm like, there's no way. I'm giving

1891
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:09,799
Speaker 6: him a card.

1892
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 2: To ask mom. She raised three kids, me Erica and him.

1893
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 3: Get one.

1894
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,680
Speaker 1: It was nice if it's free as me.

1895
01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 3: So appreciate you guys for tuning into another episode of

1896
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 3: the Roommate Show.

1897
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:26,360
Speaker 2: Rick.

1898
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 3: We appreciate you for coming on, My best coach. We

1899
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:33,519
Speaker 3: appreciate it coming on. But make sure you guys tune

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