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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: The second hour Clay and Buck case off right now,

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Speaker 2: and we got a little announcement for the Clay and

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Speaker 2: Buck podcast network. It's adding another member of the podcast avengers.

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Speaker 2: If you will, Sean Parnell, good friend of ours, is

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Speaker 2: joining our podcast family with his battle Ground podcast debuting tonight.

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Speaker 2: Some of you may not know Sean, so let me

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Speaker 2: tell you. He's a former US Army ranger served in

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Speaker 2: the serve in Afghanistan, was part of tenth Mountain Division,

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Speaker 2: retired as a captain. Best selling author of Outlaw Platoon,

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Speaker 2: an excellent memoir of his time in Afghanistan. And Shann's

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Speaker 2: been a friend of ours for many years, So go

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Speaker 2: check him out in the Clay and Buck podcast feed.

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Speaker 2: So now he would join the likes of Tutor Dixon,

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Speaker 2: Carol Markowitz, Lisa Booth. We even had a bonus episode

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Speaker 2: from the one on Them Tucker Carlson in the feed.

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Speaker 2: So Clay en Buck feed is your one stop shop

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Speaker 2: for all of your excellent podcast listening needs. And you

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Speaker 2: want to go get it on the iHeart Radio app,

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Speaker 2: which is a free app, and you should all have

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Speaker 2: it on your smartphone. Go to the app store, iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: app and subscribe to Clay and buckfeed. You get all

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Speaker 2: these shows. And Sean is a great guy. You've met Sean,

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Speaker 2: I mean you guys go back a little bit, right.

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Speaker 2: We've had him on the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've had him on the show. He's a monster

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers fan, so good or bad in recent years?

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Speaker 3: How have they been doing? They always are last few years,

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Speaker 3: they've been basically a five hundred style team. They always

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Speaker 3: end up with Mike Tomlin as their coach. A little

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Speaker 3: bit better than five hundred, But for the Steeler fans

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Speaker 3: out there.

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Speaker 1: They would NodD along.

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Speaker 3: They don't really have a quarterback, and they haven't had

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Speaker 3: a quarterback since Ben Roethlisberger retired. And so if you

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Speaker 3: don't have a quarterback in the NFL, Buck, you're screwed.

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Speaker 3: And in terms of being able to contend for a championship,

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Speaker 3: certainly in the AFC, where Patrick Mahomes is the best

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Speaker 3: quarterback in his generation.

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Speaker 1: So that is that. But Sean is an awesome dude.

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Speaker 3: I think we also have I didn't even realize we

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Speaker 3: added Lisa booth Uh to the podcast feed as well.

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Speaker 3: So we've got a really, i would say, stellar cast

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Speaker 3: of of podcast listenership. If especially if you're out in

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Speaker 3: the road, we have a huge trucker listenership. Buck if

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Speaker 3: you're out there and you're looking for fun things to

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Speaker 3: to to sample. In addition to this show, I think

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Speaker 3: we've got some really good stuff in the podcast feed.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Now let's turn our attention here to the the

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Speaker 2: brazenness with which Gavin Newsom who Clay is Clay is

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Speaker 2: saying he's a little disappointed in Gavin ever since our

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Speaker 2: friend Sean Hannity hosted that town hall and Ron DeSantis

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Speaker 2: really cleaned his cleaned his clock, absolutely him wrecked him,

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Speaker 2: and since then it's been not so great for Gavin.

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Speaker 2: Here he is, though this was amazing. He's out there

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Speaker 2: doing his thing, telling everybody that Biden has a quote

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Speaker 2: extraordinary record as president. Play it.

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Speaker 4: I think he's doing everything he needs to do, and

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Speaker 4: he's got an extraordinary record. He's doing everything he needs

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Speaker 4: to do on Ukraine at the moment, he's doing everything

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Speaker 4: he needs to do to reconcile and wrestle some common

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Speaker 4: sense as it relates to a bipartisan approach to address

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Speaker 4: the issue of the border where the Republicans couldn't take.

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Speaker 1: Yes for an answer. He is leading.

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Speaker 2: But here's my point.

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Speaker 4: It's because of his age that he's been so successful.

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Speaker 4: So the opportunity to express that for four more years,

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Speaker 4: what a gift it is for the American people. And

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Speaker 4: as a Democrat, what did a gift for me to

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Speaker 4: make the case for the leader of our party Joe Biden?

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Speaker 2: Clay, You almost have to respect it. Everyone knows. Everyone

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Speaker 2: knows Biden is too old and is in decline, and

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Speaker 2: there's probably some dementia there.

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Speaker 1: Who knows what stage it's in.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows this, and Gavin Newsom is out there saying

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Speaker 2: Biden's a great president with an extraordinary record. Because of

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Speaker 2: his age, this he gets the prize. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: I mean, Gavin Newsom buck could see a eight hundred

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Speaker 3: That's basically the equivalent of what Gavin Newsom is arguing

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Speaker 3: right now, you can say, and look, I disagree with

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Speaker 3: be such an awful president that even Joe Biden in

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Speaker 3: his diminished state is a better option than Donald Trump. Again,

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Speaker 3: I disagree with that argument. That would be a somewhat

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Speaker 3: Biden to be selected. Joe Biden, because of his age,

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Speaker 3: has an intellectual capacity that is unlike the other candidates,

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Speaker 3: and therefore is undiminished in any way and has to.

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Speaker 1: Be the nominee.

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Speaker 3: Is an embarrassing absurdity, much like the argument that an

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Speaker 1: Is Joe Scarborough.

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Speaker 3: I don't even have a gag reflex esque that you

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Speaker 3: just will argue anything to the point of just puking

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Speaker 2: I'm just here to tell everybody that this is going

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Speaker 2: to be what the Democrats are doing.

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Speaker 1: This is actually the plan.

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Speaker 2: I know that we all sit here and go, oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, So they're going to tell you that he's great.

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Speaker 2: Here's the governor of Pennsylvania. This is cut three. Josh Shapiro.

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Speaker 2: He's out there saying Biden is the nominee, and it's

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Speaker 2: great to be able to support such a strong nominee.

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Speaker 5: Play three, well, Joe Biden's going to be our nominee,

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Speaker 5: and I'm proud to support him. I'm proud to get

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Speaker 5: make sure I prosecute the case against Donald Trump and

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Speaker 5: show the clear contrast between the kind of chasts Donald

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Speaker 5: Trump would bring and the way President Biden is there

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Speaker 5: to protect our freedom and expand it. When folks come

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Speaker 5: over to me and say nice things, look, I'm just

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Speaker 5: glad they're paying attention to our work in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: The way we've.

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Speaker 5: Cut taxes and at the same time invested historic ammounts

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Speaker 5: in public education and in public safety, the way we're

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Speaker 5: what we're doing in Pennsylvania. And I'm proud to be

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden, Pennsylvania Governor. Proud to support Joe Biden, the

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Speaker 2: great nominee for the party. We're going to have to

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Speaker 2: take a lot of showers when we listen to this

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Speaker 2: stuff between now and election. Day Clay, but it's already starting.

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Speaker 2: They are just going to lean in to the most

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Speaker 3: At least that one is, Hey, he's on my team

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Speaker 3: and I'm going to defend him. It's not quite as

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom said he's basically a superstar because he's so

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Speaker 3: Yes, And this is also I would say, in general,

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Speaker 3: why so many people hate politicians, right? I mean because

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Speaker 3: They're having a competitive primary in Maryland to see whether

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Speaker 3: wish Joe Biden was ten years younger.

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Speaker 1: That's a very.

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Speaker 3: Legitimate perspective to have if you're a Democrat. If Gavin

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Speaker 3: Newsom's perspective, but that's at least somewhat honest. I think

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Speaker 3: most Americans will accept difference of opinion.

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Speaker 1: When they see you go over the.

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Speaker 1: And this is why I think Buck.

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Speaker 3: I think there's just a great deal of distrust after

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Speaker 3: COVID I saw the data. The younger you are, the

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Speaker 3: And I think it's because there's just that I would

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Speaker 3: Right like to end up in a position where you

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Speaker 2: Never president, but we should we should be ashamed of

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Speaker 1: Al Gore Al Gore is super filthy rich.

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Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton certainly has turned on the money spigot again.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Nancy Pelosi's really rich, but you know, she's.

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Speaker 3: A impeccable times She's just like the Warren Buffett of

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Speaker 3: For twenty years, Nancy Pelosi more insightful with her stock

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Speaker 3: picking than them. It's remarkable Nancy had this superpower tucked

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Speaker 1: I think some staff looked this up. They shared her her.

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Speaker 3: If you look at Nancy Pelosi's historical stock picking profile

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Speaker 2: It definitely would have been a smart move. I'm kind

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Speaker 2: of well, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I wish she would tell me, yeah, she was going

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Speaker 1: to trade in advance. I'll just there should be.

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Speaker 2: You know, there there is something called the for Jim Kramer.

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Speaker 2: You all know Jim Kramer from CNBC. Uh, there's a

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Speaker 2: reverse Kramer fund or index or whatever. Yeah, index where

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Speaker 2: you go opposite whatever Jim Kramer says by you sell

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Speaker 2: fair to Kramer, but there is one I would I

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Speaker 2: would mirror Nancy Pelosi's traits if I were somebody who was,

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Speaker 2: would want to know what Nancy's going heavy on I

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Speaker 4: I think what Democrats need to do is worry less,

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Speaker 2: Not even an interesting conversation, he says. Play hmmm, I'll

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Speaker 2: That's called the teas.

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Speaker 3: Welcome Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. All Right, Buck,

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Speaker 3: you were just talking about the ridiculous endorsements of Joe

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Speaker 3: But there is a new Harvard Harris poll out has

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Speaker 3: Trump up six, has him up seven or eight with

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Speaker 1: Why does that matter to me? Buck?

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Speaker 3: What they're doing is they're going to see where Joe

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Speaker 3: where are you Memorial Day? And then where are you

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Speaker 3: and really Labor Day is when the race begins in earnest.

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Speaker 3: But if Biden is not closer by Memorial Day. I

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Speaker 3: think there's going to be a panic setting in and

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Speaker 3: my theory is they will try to force him out

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Speaker 3: when they're having these unbelievable endorsements of Biden, which all

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Speaker 3: is going to be an open prime. This openness was inevitable,

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Speaker 3: This was inevitable. This is where they're you know now

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Speaker 3: additional sort of parallel effort has been all the legal stuff, right,

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Speaker 3: They're just now beginning to mobilize the yes, fine Joe Biden,

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Speaker 2: That said, I also believe that they, as crazy as

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Speaker 3: Do you agree with me that they would be a

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Speaker 2: Depends on where the legal stuff goes, if they think

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Speaker 2: at that point the Jack Smith trial is happening. I

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Speaker 2: we'll get a conviction, and if that happens, it's enough

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that in the next hour book. Because

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Speaker 6: I stand before you today not only as your past

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Speaker 6: Just that I do, scarface al Capone, if he had

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Speaker 6: And said hello to your what And Alphonse Capone, I

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Speaker 2: So I think Trump has probably worked two or three

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Speaker 3: I would think at least five hundred million by itself. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: How do you think this plays out? And then of

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Speaker 3: Well, there's also, probably, to be fair, a lot of

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Speaker 3: be going over all of my books by being involved

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Speaker 3: with doing some sort of bonding relationship.

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Speaker 1: With Trump to allow an appeal here, No, I don't.

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Speaker 3: And that's me saying I'm gonna admitted Donald Trump supporter.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to vote for him in the election.

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Speaker 3: If OutKick or worth billions of dollars, I sold it

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. But pretend that I still

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Speaker 3: had my company and it was worth billions of dollars

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Speaker 3: and we had real estate assets. I wouldn't want to

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Speaker 3: be involved in this. There's a lot of people out

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Speaker 3: there who were involved in UH. In business in general,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of trepidation about being involved in any

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Speaker 3: company that has a massive lawsuit or judgment out there pending.

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Speaker 3: It's very hard to get people to buy uncertain outcomes

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Speaker 3: in the legal process. So a part of me, and

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Speaker 3: I may be the first person who's ever said this,

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Speaker 3: a part of me think Trump thinks Trump could win

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Speaker 3: Buck by having lit Isha James sees.

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Speaker 1: One of his buildings.

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Speaker 3: And just allow it to happen, because, in the same

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Speaker 3: way that I said on this show.

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Speaker 2: You think he should be a record, rather he should

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Speaker 2: let them try to arrest him. Right, You've said that before.

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Speaker 1: On the app.

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Speaker 3: I said in the criminal context, I wouldn't show up

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Speaker 3: in court. I would make federal agent show up at

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Speaker 3: mar A Lago handcuff me and bring me to a

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Speaker 3: criminal trial, because I think the optics of federal agents

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Speaker 3: storming mar A Lago and taking the chief political opponent

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Speaker 3: of Joe Biden into federal custody would be so destructive

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Speaker 3: that it would help Trump politically. I feel the same way,

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Speaker 3: and again I'm may be the only person out there

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Speaker 3: who's saying this, but can you imagine if Letitia James

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Speaker 3: walks in with a court order and tries to seize

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Speaker 3: Trump Tower or some other asset of Trump's on behalf of.

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Speaker 1: New York State.

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Speaker 3: I think it would strike most people as draconian in

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Speaker 3: a way that crystallizes the absurdity of this pursuit, in

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Speaker 3: a way that posting a bond doesn't.

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Speaker 1: It's risky, But again.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to play it through in terms of what

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Speaker 3: is going to happen here?

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Speaker 1: How is this going to present?

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Speaker 2: They can'tyone really pay attention to it. I think you're

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Speaker 2: thinking about the arrest because the visual of that and

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Speaker 2: a political opponent getting arrested for also for nonsense. Right,

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Speaker 2: it's not like he's being arrested for murdering somebody. That

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Speaker 2: that I see totally. We were on the same page

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Speaker 2: with seizing is building.

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Speaker 1: I mean, part of.

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Speaker 2: The issue here is so much, so much has gone

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Speaker 2: on that is is just so beyond the pale and

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Speaker 2: unprecedented and you know, U record breaking or or norm

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Speaker 2: breaking is really the rowing a president destroying thank you.

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Speaker 2: I remember they used to use this. They would always

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Speaker 2: say this about Trump when he was president. They'd be

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Speaker 2: these headlines or times in an unprecedented move, and then

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Speaker 2: somebody would do a five second Google search. So well, no,

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Speaker 2: like Obama actually did the same thing. What are you

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Speaker 2: telling about?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: They would always just say it's unprecedented whatever Trump did. Uh,

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Speaker 2: they have done and no one disagrees with this or

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Speaker 2: no one could argue this. Uh, They've done a lot

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Speaker 2: of unprecedented things. And so I think that it all

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Speaker 2: gets mixed in together somewhat, you know, seizing a building.

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Speaker 2: It's not like they're gonna demo it, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I just think the optic, you know, I think they

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Speaker 2: could get away.

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Speaker 3: With it, the optics of Letitia James walking in with

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Speaker 3: some court order and and I don't even.

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Speaker 2: Know what seizing about, kick all the residents out, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, like nothing really it just yeah, but.

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Speaker 3: They would make a big deal of it in the

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Speaker 3: same way when they when they when they arrested Roger

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Speaker 3: Stone and CNN somehow managed to be there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: all of the left winging leaning outlets would be there.

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Speaker 3: That So the balance for me, buck is is that

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Speaker 3: then some way that that they attackled This is about

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Speaker 3: we're skipping a step.

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Speaker 1: He's rich.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, But did you do you think that they

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Speaker 2: will seize buildings if she's already said Letsie James has

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Speaker 2: said it. Do you think she's gonna try to do

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Speaker 2: that if he doesn't come up with the cash. I

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Speaker 2: don't think he can come up with the cash without

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Speaker 2: it has to be done within thirty days. To think

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Speaker 2: about that, people say, oh, sell this, sell that, selling

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Speaker 2: mar A Lago You're not gonna able to do that

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Speaker 2: in ten days. This is not possible.

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Speaker 3: Well, so here's here's the crazy thing about this buck again,

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Speaker 3: and no one is actually talking about it. In order

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Speaker 3: to come up with the money, he has to get

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Speaker 3: an appraisal I think of the real estate assets that

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Speaker 3: he has and get a basically take out almost a

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Speaker 3: mortgage on those assets. This is what New York already

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Speaker 3: dinged him for forgetting too much asset valuation for his assets.

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Speaker 3: Which is why if I'm the company that is out there,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be involved in getting in the

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Speaker 3: crosshairs of New York. Which is why I think the

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Speaker 3: difficulty here, well, this is what I mean about the

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Speaker 3: surety bond. It's not nobody's going to want to go

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Speaker 3: near this because of that the challenges. But you could

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Speaker 3: have a situation here, I think you just walked us

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Speaker 3: up to this. You could have a situation here where

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Speaker 3: Trump might end up getting even like a mortgage, let's say,

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Speaker 3: or a refinance, maybe a sale of a property that

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Speaker 3: was one of the properties that they said he overvalued

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Speaker 3: in his dealings with the banks and fined him for.

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Speaker 3: He may get top dollar value and take money out

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Speaker 3: of that property to pay the State of New York,

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Speaker 3: which claims that he was inflating the assets that he

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Speaker 3: had at the time that he would now be selling.

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Speaker 3: Is everyone, are you dizzy yet, make sure you pull

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Speaker 3: over the side of the And here's the other thing, though, Buck,

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Speaker 3: if I'm super rich, Let's pretend that I'm worth ten

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Speaker 3: billion dollars, right, and I want to buy one of

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Speaker 3: these Trump buildings. You know what they're going to say

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Speaker 3: if I buy it, that I paid too much to

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Speaker 3: Trump to try to curry political.

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Speaker 1: Favor, and then they're going to investigate me too. Right.

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Speaker 1: So this is what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: The challenge that he now has is by going after

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Speaker 3: his initial valuation, they have created the worldview that Trump

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Speaker 3: engages in inappropriate valuation of his real estate assets. Let's

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Speaker 3: say that he sells it to somebody, whatever that person pays,

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Speaker 3: unless it's a bargain basement price that is way below

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Speaker 3: what people think is the market value, then that's going

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Speaker 3: to be a mess. And oh, by the way, I'm

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Speaker 3: involved in real estate, not in a massive way, Buck.

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Speaker 1: But here's the other challenge.

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Speaker 3: They're making him do it when real estate values are

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Speaker 3: struggling because of interest rates. So there are a lot

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Speaker 3: of people out there that might be interested in buying

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Speaker 3: a Trump real estate portfolio.

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Speaker 2: Commercial property in particular is very hard to value right now,

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Speaker 2: especially for.

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Speaker 3: And sell and sell two or three percent interest rate.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people would say, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 3: I can make this work at a seven or eight

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Speaker 3: percent interest rate. This just happened to one of the

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Speaker 3: properties that I own in Nashville. They didn't want to

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Speaker 3: commercial real estate. I'm a part owner of a building.

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Speaker 3: The bank just said, hey, we don't want to. Usually

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Speaker 3: it's easy to refi and readdress when these loans are

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Speaker 3: coming up. So we had to buy the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: We had to purchase the entire building because the bank

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Speaker 3: wouldn't work with us. So he said, screw it, We'll

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Speaker 3: just kind of check for the whole thing. But this

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Speaker 3: is the challenge that he's in right now. I just

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Speaker 3: think it's a total mess. I think it might lead

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Speaker 3: to seizure.

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Speaker 2: That's I think so too. I think they're going to

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Speaker 3: not spider Man, not Batman. It's Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden,

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Speaker 3: American democracy now, Buck. First of all, what jumps out

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Speaker 3: to me is this is ludicrous and insane, even by

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Speaker 3: Biden family standards of ludicrousness and insanity. But I actually

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Speaker 3: think if he were to have a real apse, and

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Speaker 3: by the way, he may already have with the cocaine

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Speaker 3: that's in the White House that suddenly we claim to

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Speaker 3: not know who actually responsible for it, if that were

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Speaker 3: to happen, I don't know that it would hurt Biden

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Speaker 3: at all, honestly.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, we already know that if Hunter

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Speaker 2: is the hero that America needs right now for democracy,

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Speaker 2: at least we know what his superhero uniform would be.

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Speaker 2: It would clearly be tidy whiteis with aviators and a

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Speaker 2: pink boa around his neck and his socks jacked uff

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Speaker 2: like that's Hunter. Biden already has a superhero costume. We've

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Speaker 2: all seen it. Everyone, he is ready for action. Uh

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Speaker 2: And what else was I saying? Yes, Hunter Biden, if

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Speaker 2: he were to have actually a relapped or something anything

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Speaker 2: that can allow Joe, But Joe Biden has abused the

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Speaker 2: sympathy card because of personal tragedy, which he has offered

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Speaker 2: personal tragedies, but he has abused the sympathy card for

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Speaker 2: political purposes, for for I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know, his entire career, basically his whole career.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's and and he he still does it.

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Speaker 2: He does it all the time. I think it's gross.

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Speaker 2: I think it's really manipulative and slimey to do, and

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Speaker 2: it's served him unfortunately far too well in politics, and

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Speaker 2: he will continue to do that. I think if Hunter

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Speaker 2: as Hero fails Clay, then they'll switch.

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Speaker 1: Back to that.

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Speaker 2: He loves his son, who's an attic, just like so

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Speaker 2: many addicts across the mars like yeah, but him and

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Speaker 2: his son are tied to business deals together while he's

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Speaker 2: the vice president of the United States.

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Speaker 3: I do think at some point, and by the way,

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Speaker 3: Bo Biden, remember I don't even know that we talked

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Speaker 3: about this. Joe Biden claimed right after that Department of

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Speaker 3: Justice Special Counsel report from Robert Hurr came out that

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Speaker 3: he was offended at the idea that Bo Biden's death

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Speaker 3: could even be brought up as a part of that investigation.

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Speaker 3: And then there seems to be although we still haven't

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Speaker 3: seen that transcript, then we need it. But according to

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Speaker 3: multiple reports, what happened there was not actually that they

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Speaker 3: quized Joe Biden about Bo Biden at all, but that,

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Speaker 3: under pressure, Biden tried to bring up Bo Biden's death

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Speaker 3: as he often does. This is almost like a get

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Speaker 3: out of jail free card for Joe Biden. He starts

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Speaker 3: to get questioned about Hunter or some sort of emilial

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Speaker 3: connection to impropriety, and he immediately brings up his son's death.

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants Bo Biden to have died. Everyone wishes that

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Speaker 3: everybody was still alive. We hate to see usual and

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Speaker 3: unnatural deaths from young people period, as Bo was. But

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Speaker 3: the idea that somehow that cleanses all of Joe Biden's

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Speaker 3: misbehavior is frankly unfair and untrue