Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure
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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. The Trump administration considering a
Speaker 1: ban on trans gun ownership and gun buying. Purchasing a
Speaker 1: firearm is something that there already are a lot of
Speaker 1: rules around. I know because I've bought a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of guns myself. And the reality is this is going
Speaker 1: to get very contentious with Democrats because they've been saying
Speaker 1: in the aftermath of a lot of shootings, but in
Speaker 1: this most recent one where a trans terrorist shot up
Speaker 1: a Catholic church full of kids, killed two of them,
Speaker 1: shot over a dozen, they've been saying, you must do something.
Speaker 1: You must do something. That's the refrain, and if you're
Speaker 1: not willing to do something, you're the problem. It's on you.
Speaker 1: It's your fault that this keeps happening. Okay, well, let's
Speaker 1: take that then to the next step. Here we are
Speaker 1: with the Trump administration saying that they want to do something,
Speaker 1: they want to prevent trans individuals from buying guns. Now,
Speaker 1: because the trans community has been elevated by the left
Speaker 1: as really the pre eminent and ultimate victim status individuals
Speaker 1: in America today, to the extent that they'll say there's
Speaker 1: an active genocide and an erasure of them going on
Speaker 1: in America. The most extreme kind of language, a genocide,
Speaker 1: a genocide of trans people, the erasure of trans people
Speaker 1: when you erase a person. What do they mean by that, Well,
Speaker 1: when you say genocide, we talk about ethnic cleansing. These
Speaker 1: are terms that evoke the worst crimes in human history
Speaker 1: of all time that's going on when it comes to
Speaker 1: trans people. Or they'll talk about an epidemic of anti
Speaker 1: trans violence. Where is that coming from? Who's doing this?
Speaker 1: How many times is occurring? Show me the data, show
Speaker 1: me the numbers. I'm not seeing this. Why do they
Speaker 1: say it? They say it because they're trying to create
Speaker 1: a perception that trans individuals are under continuous violent assault,
Speaker 1: and therefore anybody who tries to adjust or stands in
Speaker 1: the way of any trans specific policies is part of
Speaker 1: that genocidal effort. Right, This is the moral blackmail that
Speaker 1: they engage in. But on this issue, it's interesting to
Speaker 1: me because the prohibition that currently exists for people that
Speaker 1: are going to buy a gun is under federal law,
Speaker 1: a person is prohibited from buying or possessing a firearm,
Speaker 1: if they have been involuntarily committed to a mental institution
Speaker 1: or formally adjudicated as a mental defective, so a judge
Speaker 1: has said this person's crazy or they've been involuntarily committed
Speaker 1: to a mental institution. Now, as we know, the bar
Speaker 1: to involuntarily commit someone is very high, and that's actually
Speaker 1: become a problem. I think a lot of people have
Speaker 1: seen this in recent years where it shouldn't be as
Speaker 1: difficult as it is to get people committed to mental
Speaker 1: because it's bad for them, it's bad for other people.
Speaker 1: There is so much to see when you look at
Speaker 1: the data, the information on individuals who hurt themselves or
Speaker 1: hurt others, and they had been known for a long
Speaker 1: time to be a risk, It had been known for
Speaker 1: a long time, but they were severely mentally ill. Right,
Speaker 1: mental illness, I think to put it in this context
Speaker 1: is helpful. Mental illness is like physical corporeal illness in
Speaker 1: that you know a lot of people struggle with it
Speaker 1: at different levels. Everyone will have some mental health challenges
Speaker 1: at some point in their life. Death of a spouse,
Speaker 1: maybe depression follows postpartum depression after a baby PTSD if
Speaker 1: you serve in the military. Right, there's mental health stuff
Speaker 1: that comes up that we know is just the result
Speaker 1: of dealing with difficult events or being people. And then
Speaker 1: there's stuff that is extreme. Then there's you know, being
Speaker 1: a paranoid schizophrenic. Then there's having a severe depressive disorder.
Speaker 1: And and I bring it to the mental health physical
Speaker 1: health comparison because you know, we all can get a
Speaker 1: cold and that's that's okay, and you want to get
Speaker 1: healthy from that cold. But if you're somebody who has,
Speaker 1: you know, a severely contagious and deadly disease, that has
Speaker 1: to be treated differently. Right, there's severity differences. So just
Speaker 1: to say a mental health issue that covers so much,
Speaker 1: just like a cold is a health issue and ebola
Speaker 1: is a health issue, but very different in the severity
Speaker 1: and how they should be treated by those individuals and
Speaker 1: how society treats them. Right, no one locks you in
Speaker 1: your room. Well with COVID they did, but no one
Speaker 1: locks you in your room and you have a cold,
Speaker 1: but you might have to be contained while you're fighting ebola,
Speaker 1: and and that's fair, right, same thing with mental health.
Speaker 1: If you have minor anxiety, like about I don't know
Speaker 1: thirty or forty million Americans do where it's clinical level,
Speaker 1: but it's it's something you can manage, that's a mental
Speaker 1: health challenge. You should still be able to buy a
Speaker 1: gun if you are someone though, who is seeing pink
Speaker 1: elephants flying in the sky that aren't there obviously. Uh.
Speaker 1: And you have severe schizophrenia if you've been committed to
Speaker 1: a facility, you can't buy a gun legally, and there
Speaker 1: is a prohibition against that. So I'm saying all this
Speaker 1: so that we can put into context where would transgenderism
Speaker 1: fall on this spectrum. Now, I know people would say
Speaker 1: right away, transgenderism is a who you are thing, It's
Speaker 1: not a mental illness at all. It was in the
Speaker 1: DSM file and the DSM four I think, I forget
Speaker 1: the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders. It
Speaker 1: was there until pretty recently, certainly in the last ten years,
Speaker 1: I think, and it was under gender dysphoria and it
Speaker 1: was considered a mental health condition and since it has
Speaker 1: been removed, And so now you get to gender identity
Speaker 1: issues is what it's being called. Okay, Well, this is
Speaker 1: a conversation we should have out in public. Because if
Speaker 1: someone is trans are they mentally ill? If they're mentally ill,
Speaker 1: how mentally ill, and how does that factor into the
Speaker 1: laws that we have around firearms. I mean, I've said
Speaker 1: this before. If I because I go shooting, I go
Speaker 1: to the gun range. And I'm also I'm a range
Speaker 1: safety officer, a certified pistol instructor. So I've spent some
Speaker 1: real time at the range, especially the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this, the everyone who ever who
Speaker 1: spends time in the range knows that there's always a
Speaker 1: risk of someone doing a suicide at the range. And
Speaker 1: then there's the risk additionally of just because they can
Speaker 1: go there with their firearm and you know, take their
Speaker 1: time and they have the fire amount in their head.
Speaker 1: There's a whole horrible thing. But this does happen occasionally.
Speaker 1: And also they sometimes will take somebody else with them
Speaker 1: on the way. This happens rarely, rarely, but it can happen.
Speaker 1: If somebody told me that they were struggling with heroin
Speaker 1: addiction and they were going through withdrawal, I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: them shooting next to me on a gun range. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to take them out to the gun range.
Speaker 1: I would say you're having some issues. I don't same
Speaker 1: way someone was drunk, I mean really drunk, not like
Speaker 1: had a beer. If you you know, a couple hours
Speaker 1: ago someone was really drunk, would you want to be
Speaker 1: the shooting range of them? Know, if they're impaired, you're
Speaker 1: talking about lethal firearms in their hands. And we get
Speaker 1: to if you are trans are you psychologically impaired? Is
Speaker 1: your judgment impaired? This is the question the Trump administration's asking.
Speaker 1: YouTube may have a problem with me for saying this,
Speaker 1: but this is the discussion. This can be something that
Speaker 1: we can either talk about openly or we can try
Speaker 1: to have places that don't want to deal with reality
Speaker 1: shut this stuff down. But that is what's going on.
Speaker 1: So even if the Trump administration does not see this
Speaker 1: through or maybe is not successful, because I do think
Speaker 1: there are constitutional issues with this right, you know, you'd
Speaker 1: have to pass legislation. It would be deprivation of rights
Speaker 1: before you trigger any kind of you know, specific if
Speaker 1: it's not if you're not adjudicated, how can you have
Speaker 1: your rights taken away? And this is why a lot
Speaker 1: of really crazy people can still buy guns because they're crazy,
Speaker 1: but they were never committed to a facility, and so
Speaker 1: they don't have so it becomes complicated. But I think
Speaker 1: the discussion is important because it gets to this whole
Speaker 1: issue of well is transgender? Is being trans a mental
Speaker 1: health issue? And is it something that should be treated
Speaker 1: as a serious mental health issue that has public safety
Speaker 1: risk it heightened? I'm not, of course, are you saying
Speaker 1: all trans people are dangerous? I know trans people, of
Speaker 1: course they're They're not all dangerous, of course. But you know,
Speaker 1: I also know a lot of people that have drug addictions.
Speaker 1: I still love them, They're still my fellow human beings.
Speaker 1: I still but you know, they got a problem. I
Speaker 1: don't encourage the drug addiction. I want them to seek help, right,
Speaker 1: I know people who are recovering alcoholics. And so when
Speaker 1: you're talking about trans where does that fall in the
Speaker 1: spectrum of mental illness? How serious? How seriously should it
Speaker 1: be treated as a problem for society to tackle as
Speaker 1: we go forward? I mean, this is the discussion, all right.
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Speaker 1: to fight through some crazy stuff going on with these judges,
Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you it's it's it's very frustrating
Speaker 1: to see the hashtag resistance judiciary continue to do what
Speaker 1: they do because even when they're getting overturned by the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court, which is happening with frequency, and they know
Speaker 1: it's happening, there is the time that is lost in
Speaker 1: this process. They're trying to as much as they can
Speaker 1: run out the clock. And let me give you a
Speaker 1: few examples of this. For one, Trump wants an immediate
Speaker 1: review by the Supreme Court of the tariff decision that
Speaker 1: came down from the Court of Appeals because think about
Speaker 1: what this would mean if they're ruling his tariffs are unconstitutional.
Speaker 1: If that is held, there's almost a trillion dollars that's
Speaker 1: going to come in on tariff's revenue this year, or
Speaker 1: do we give it back? What does that mean for
Speaker 1: his negotiations with countries, Well, we already know. Scott Bessen,
Speaker 1: this Treasury Secretary, has said that countries are beginning to
Speaker 1: back away from the negotiations. Countries are beginning to say, well,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna wait this out and see because maybe
Speaker 1: you don't even have the authority to be making these deals.
Speaker 1: This is a huge problem, huge problem. And you know,
Speaker 1: the Trump administration is relying on a nineteen seventy seven law,
Speaker 1: the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, which lets the president
Speaker 1: take unilateral action to regulate the economy during an emergency.
Speaker 1: Appeals court seven to four vote said that none of
Speaker 1: these actions explicitly include the power to impose tariff's duties
Speaker 1: of alike or the power to tax. Well, the Emergency
Speaker 1: Economic Powers Act sounds like it would include teriff stuff.
Speaker 1: But point is, and four judges agreed with Trump just
Speaker 1: because this wasn't like a slap down by all, and
Speaker 1: four judges agree with what Trump has done. So this
Speaker 1: is going to have to go up to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: But once again you have these judges who are standing
Speaker 1: in the way of something that we've already seen now
Speaker 1: is a good thing. This is helping the country, This
Speaker 1: is sensible. And yet these judges, because they hey, Trump,
Speaker 1: want to stand in the way of it. They just
Speaker 1: they continuously do this, and it is very frustrating to
Speaker 1: watch because yet, yes, we have respect for a system,
Speaker 1: and so there's really no way that we can sidestep
Speaker 1: any of this. We have to go and that's what
Speaker 1: Trump does. They always say he is a dictator, and
Speaker 1: his response is, all right, I'll see you in court.
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Speaker 1: situation here. This one's even crazier in some ways. Trump
Speaker 1: administration is not allowed to cut funding to Harvard. According
Speaker 1: to a judge at Boston, Obama appointee judge, What a
Speaker 1: shock that is right? Of course, how do we know
Speaker 1: that was the case? How do we know it be
Speaker 1: a Boston Demomocrat appointee and sure enough, Well, let me
Speaker 1: talk about the case a little bit. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: a little bit about this judge's background. So the White
Speaker 1: House is going to appeal this, obviously, but they're saying
Speaker 1: you can't take funding away from Harvard. So I just
Speaker 1: want to be very clear on this. Is it Is
Speaker 1: it then the case that this situation is it? Then
Speaker 1: the case that Harvard is entitled to taxpayer funds in
Speaker 1: what amount and for how long? Right? This is what
Speaker 1: you see. This is when the system is exposing itself
Speaker 1: that what's supposed to be a privilege is treated like
Speaker 1: a right as long as it isn't helping the right,
Speaker 1: as long as it is for the left or the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party, then it is sacrosanct. And people have seen
Speaker 1: enough of this, I think to understand how far the
Speaker 1: rot spreads. But that judge, Judge Burrows. She also shut
Speaker 1: down Trump's travel ban in January twenty seventeen. She also
Speaker 1: presided over and went again Students for Fair Admission VI
Speaker 1: versus Harvard, which eventually made its way to the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court and found in favor of students for fair admission.
Speaker 1: She's a lib commie propagandist jurist, and yet she's in
Speaker 1: a position to say that Harvard still gets billions of dollars.
Speaker 1: Why government grants aren't can't be changed by the executive branch.
Speaker 1: Someone explained it, says, it's the Administrative Procedures Act. You know,
Speaker 1: whenever you see a judicial figure in the Trump era
Speaker 1: rely on the Administrative Procedures Act. It's just I don't
Speaker 1: like it. That's their version of I don't like it
Speaker 1: because it's things like, oh, you didn't give enough notice
Speaker 1: before you made this decision. Huh, I'm making the decision.
Speaker 1: They've had plenty of notice. It's been months. Nope, you
Speaker 1: need to give them more notice, says I the judge.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. And this is, though, what we continue to
Speaker 1: see judges who are just usurping the authority of the
Speaker 1: legislative branch and deciding that they are going to do
Speaker 1: whatever they can, even if they're going to get overturned
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