1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: I abandon my family's baby shower because I can't have 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: a baby. 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to be around like if I 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: all right, let me tell you this, throw me down. Okay, 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 2: if I'm an alcoholic, I don't want to go to 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: a party where everyone's drinking. 7 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: That is a pretty strong analogy. I think I think 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: you might have just made Ope's whole. I don't even 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: know if we need to read the story anymore. 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: Done, done, gates clothes, weird doing all right, We're backing 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: out later. Nice to see you. You know, put your 12 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: answers in the comments about different MinC. 13 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: There's only one reason why we should read this story, 14 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: Sam is because it comes from the Okay, mother freaking gang. 15 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 2: Let's go. We love we love that. We love love 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: that so much. You know, every time we read a 17 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: story it feels like we're having a little minage with 18 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: our favorite people. 19 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: That's right, I guess this one comes from Mama twenty 20 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: two on our slash Okop show. So if you want 21 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: to our So, if you want us to read your 22 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: story like this, go to our slash Okop show. Type 23 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: your story, send it in there. Yes, we'd love to 24 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: hear from you. 25 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: Please, We always look for more partners than our uh 26 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: in three way conversations. 27 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: All seventeen hundred of you. Oh man, imagine, I can 28 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: not I hire them. That's a that's a conference at 29 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: that point. 30 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: That's an amphitheater event. Let's set that conference up, set 31 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: it off. 32 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: So oh, I love this, love your show, and I 33 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: watch all the time. I actually created a Reddit account 34 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: specifically to post this story to your board. Whoa mama, 35 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: it's funny too putting a smile on your boy's faces today. 36 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: We love hearing that. We we really truly do so. 37 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 2: Literally warm is my tiny little heart, It really does. 38 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: He's about to grinch over here. Grew three sizes. He's 39 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: straight grinching right now. Gnchin very Christmas straight, growing three 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: sides just for you baby. Oh god, so happened. This happened. 41 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: This happened a number of years ago, but I was 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: just called out on it last year during my pregnancy. 43 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: So just wanting to see what others think. For context, 44 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: I am twenty nine female, my husband is thirty male, 45 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: and K is twenty nine female. 46 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: Okay kay uh. 47 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: My husband and I were trying to have a baby 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: for over eight years with no successes. Damn and had 49 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: to finally go through IVF two. 50 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 2: Get our little girl. Let's go, mama twenty two. Congratulations. 51 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: Sometimes you just need a little help. That's right, you know. 52 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: It's a little little booster, a little booster pack little absolutely. Yeah, 53 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 2: take that silky sweetness and put it in a tube 54 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: and then put that tube in your egg. 55 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: Let her rip, baby, let it, let her rip taken 56 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: off like Elon's rockets. 57 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: Elon sperm. That is a shit coin, real real coin? Correct? 58 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: Really yeah, Elon sperm. Oh invest true, it's a cryptocurrency. 59 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: You can look it up. 60 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: It's about the sky rockets after local podcasters blow up 61 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: a cryptocurrency. 62 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: That would be crazy. 63 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: She is our pride and joy and was definitely worth 64 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: the way and the money to get here. Yeah, that's expensive. 65 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: If is like, no joke, ain't cheap. For context, let's 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: just say this family has never really invited us to 67 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: anything and definitely always outcasted my mother and I since 68 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: my mother married into it. 69 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 2: Okay, so to be clear, the mother married, I guess 70 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: OP is now stepdad and the stepdad's family has never 71 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: accepted the mother or OP. I guess yep, that's what 72 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: I'm thinking. 73 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: It got worse over the years, and by the time 74 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: this event rolled around, they never invited us to holidays, 75 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 1: talk to us much, or anything other than events where 76 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: we would bring a gift, like birthdays and baby showers. 77 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: How does your setdad feel about that? Like? Is he 78 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: on board? Yo? How about you invite the family that 79 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: actually means something to me. I'm married to this this, 80 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: this person, and like this person, like this person being 81 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: your mom, And then if your mom has a good 82 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: relationship with you, like, yeah, she's not family. It's true, 83 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: she's not blood. She's not blood. I need to marry 84 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 2: you and be related to you for me to bring 85 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: Maybe it's like a situation where it's like this this 86 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: step dad has been married at time. It's like, we 87 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 2: don't need to get to know your wife of the month, 88 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: don't need all these strings attached, and then we're gonna 89 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: have to photoshop all the photos. So annoying. 90 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: They hardly ever came to my birthdays as a kid, 91 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: and this specific family member, let's call her K, was 92 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: to be in my wedding, but kept making excuses for 93 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: not being able to make it to fittings and events 94 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: until I had to tell her that she couldn't be 95 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: in it. 96 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: She would always say she. 97 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: Was super busy with work, but she worked in fast food. 98 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: Have you seen an in and out? They are busy. 99 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: They are fucking busy. Like fast food work is hard. 100 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: In fairness, It's like it's not like you can just 101 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: like take a bunch of time off. 102 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: This is Google, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, 103 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: if you're a programmer working at Google, you are working 104 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: less hours than a fast food worker for shore. 105 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely so oh god. Anyways, onto the story. My husband 106 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: and I were trying for more than five years for 107 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: the baby at this point, with no success. At first, 108 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: we kept it from family, but finally a little before this, 109 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: we made it public to try to stop the. 110 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: When are you gonna have a baby. 111 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: Comments from constantly coming up, although we did still keep 112 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: the times that we were going through aUI, a fertility 113 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: treatment a secret to try and not get too much 114 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: stress on us. Now Ka the family member, on the 115 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: other hand, she was one of those who's barely started 116 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: dating a guy and whoops, got pregg type of person. 117 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: Fuck those people literally, apparently how many people, how many babies? 118 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: This happened? They're like that type of person. So how 119 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: we read those stories where it's like I had a 120 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: one mind that I had a one night stand and 121 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: then boom, But it's like, is she that type? When 122 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: someone says that, oh like that, like that's great, that's 123 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: what fertile grounds. 124 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: When she announced her pregnancy on Facebook, I congratulated her 125 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: and figured that that was it since we. 126 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: Barely saw them well. 127 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: When it came time for her gender reveal, I couldn't 128 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: make it in person, doing to be busy, but my 129 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: parents went and told her that we're sorry and we 130 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 1: couldn't make it. I had all good intentions of going 131 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: to her baby shower, but I had to back out 132 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: last minute due to an unforeseen issue popping up with 133 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: my husband's uncle's health and my own mental health as well. 134 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: The week before the baby. 135 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: Shower, we found out after another i uiility treatment had 136 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: failed and we were yet again not pregnant. 137 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: But this time it hit different. Dang. 138 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: We had tried donor sperm due to my husband's counts 139 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: being so low, and the doctor was so sure that 140 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: this one would work. Oh oh man, especially after it's 141 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: a whole nother dude. 142 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: It still didn't work, still didn't work. 143 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: We were so heartbroken and I knew it would be 144 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: so mentally draining to plaster a face mile on during 145 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: the whole event and risk breaking out in tears. And 146 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: like I said, my husband's uncle was having health problems 147 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: at the time and we ended up being with him. 148 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: So after grieving the failed IUI, we still went in 149 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: baby shopped for them, wrapped the present up and sent 150 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: it with my mother to the baby shower. I say 151 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: grieving because you prepare for it to work, and you 152 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: make plans for it to work, and you already fall 153 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: in love with the idea of a little baby, and 154 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: then when it doesn't work, you go through the grieving 155 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: process every month and then try again. 156 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: Oh that must be it so emotionally exhausting, so hard. 157 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: Well, the day of the baby shower, my parents went 158 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: and took our gift with them. They gave it to 159 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: k and told her sorry that we couldn't make it 160 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: and that something had come up. Then during the event, 161 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: my mother happened to tell them that baby showers can 162 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: be hard for me due to my infertility. 163 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: Which is like, I don't know if you say that. 164 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: And let yeah, I feel like it's general bad bad form, 165 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: bad form. 166 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: It's like introducing someone and be like, I heard your 167 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: relationship status is pretty complicated. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Someone once 168 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 2: did to me. God, hey Sam, I heard all over 169 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: the place. Literally, it was like it was like it 170 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: was a completely new group of people, and it was 171 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: like this kind of kind of like younger kid and 172 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: he's like, oh, I Like it's like, hey, Sam, how's 173 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: it going. Hey, this is Sam. How are things going 174 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: with like your ex girlfriend? It seems like things are 175 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: pretty complicated, And I'm like, bro, it's not the first thing. 176 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: Maybe they were just trying to just cut deep and 177 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: like let me, let me really connect with them and 178 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: see see. 179 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 2: What's going on in the world. Say these crazy strangers, Bro, 180 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: we have to do it in front of the grain strangers. 181 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 2: You can talk about that later. Nice to meet all. 182 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: No one, not even my mother, knew that we had 183 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: just had another failed i UI, but that probably wouldn't 184 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: have changed anything. When Kay had her baby, we couldn't 185 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: make it to the hospital to see the baby and 186 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: never even got to meet them until we were invited 187 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: to their first birthday, another event for us to bring 188 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: a present to. 189 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: So they're only all of the All the events are 190 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: like money, money, money. 191 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, OPI mentioned at the top, like all the events 192 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: that they were invited to, like the whole history them 193 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: was ones that you bring up present to, like baby showers. 194 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: At their baby Yeah, the their company not valuable, Yeah yeah, 195 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 2: but your money money. 196 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: Fast forward to last year and we had switched to 197 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: IVF to try and have a baby, which is extremely expensive. 198 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: So my mother was trying to help us by running 199 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: a fundraiser for us. When this family was asked if 200 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: they wanted to buy anything from the fundraiser, they all 201 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: said no and acted quite nasty about it, saying the 202 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: kids were running fundraisers for t ball and that was 203 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: more important. 204 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: What's that even mean? 205 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: Like their kids were running a fundraiser for their t 206 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: ball teams. 207 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: And that's more important than a fundraiser for the baby. Yes, 208 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: little yikesikes. If you want to know how you stand 209 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: in terms of how you stack up in the family 210 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: important scale. If they're saying t ball is more important 211 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: than your chi children, they're like, we don't we We 212 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: really would rather see toddlers swing at things on a 213 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: stick then see another one of your genes be spread 214 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: through this world. 215 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: We need another plastic bat? Do you really need one child? 216 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: We already have all our children, so. 217 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and also like, there's a reason that you're 218 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: not invited to all of these things because we don't 219 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: like you, and we wouldn't. We wouldn't, we won't. We 220 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: don't want any more of you. Yeah, come on, stop, 221 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: come on, shut it down. I want to watch the 222 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: t ball and watch the world burn. I'm sorry, Op, 223 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 2: these people sound terrible. Yes, very much so. 224 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: Well, then we were able to do IVF and it 225 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: miraculously worked. 226 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: Thank the Lord God. 227 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: We almost weren't able to tell this family in person 228 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: because no one invited us to this holiday, no presence, 229 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: no presence, no way to give their money. We asked 230 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: and asked, knowing we wanted to announce this, but no 231 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: one told us that they were having anything until my 232 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: uncle invited us, not knowing that we weren't supposed to 233 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: be there. 234 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: Well. 235 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: Well, at that time, Ka was also pregnant again, as she. 236 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: Does kaka the fertile ground. Kay does that. That's just 237 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: case things what she does. She just gets knocked up 238 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: all the time, clides it in, pops one out. That's 239 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: how the operations. Like you little you squirt something on 240 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: our belly button, Bam, pregnant baby. 241 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: I was excited our babies would be near the same age. Well, 242 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: Kay invited us to the baby shower they had for 243 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: this baby, and my mother and I showed up. Like 244 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: I said, they never really see us, so they didn't 245 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: realize my bump had started to show. I walked around 246 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: Kay's baby shower, getting dirty looks from them the whole time, 247 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: not knowing why. Then another family member, let's call her Tea, 248 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: asked to see my ultrasound pictures, so I. 249 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: Showed them to her. 250 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: Then she starts showing them to everyone else, and I 251 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: kept asking for them back, but I didn't get them 252 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: back for a while, which is like that's crazy. 253 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: Which is weird. But maybe all the people are mad 254 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: because oh, like you're taking away from like on K's 255 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: baby shower, which is I. 256 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: Guess they're like, let me take this so you can't 257 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: show anybody else. We had our own gender reveal and 258 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: most of the family didn't show up after repeatedly asking 259 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: when and where it was, but we still had a 260 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: great time. Poor op just a freaking pariaha family for 261 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: no reason. Then Kay got married and told us it 262 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: was a small ceremony with only a few people we 263 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: weren't invited or told where it was. We all again, Hey, 264 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: that's one where they could bring the gifts. But they're like, 265 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: we hate you so much that we can't even bear 266 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: you to be here. God, we only saw the pictures 267 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: on Facebook and found out it was only us that 268 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: was not invited from the direct family. 269 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: Only one in the direct family. What did you do? 270 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: What happened? 271 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: Don't something's gone wrong? Later Tea like, there's information we're 272 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: missing here maybe maybe and we know o peace so 273 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: we could get the full scoop. Later Tea, who literally 274 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: was having a manic mental breakdown, apparently went and spread 275 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: all sorts of rumors through the family about everyone over 276 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: the course of about a year. When she told me 277 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: things that so and so said, I just said, oh yeah, wow, okay, 278 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: and just moved on with my adult life. My family, 279 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: on the other hand, took everything this woman said as 280 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: gospel truth and told my mother and I that we 281 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: were kicked out of the family for something we never said. 282 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: Kay then messaged me and said that they wouldn't be 283 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: at my baby shower because of the things I supposedly said, 284 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: which I explained I didn't say, and that we needed 285 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: to get tea help, but no one in the family 286 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: believes in getting help, so I guess they're not proponents 287 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: of therapy and mental health. 288 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: It sounds like Goda love it. 289 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: They also told me that it really hurt her that 290 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: I didn't go to her baby shower all those years ago, 291 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: and that it wasn't her fault that I couldn't get 292 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: pregnant and she could. 293 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: That's not something you say. That's not something you say. 294 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: That's pretty rude. 295 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: That's like the all lives matter of pregnancy and fertility. 296 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay. 297 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: I was also told that it was extremely rude of 298 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: me for attending to second baby shower while I was 299 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: pregnant and showing, and that I just did it for 300 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: the attention to be on me. What are you gonna 301 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: not do? Not show up? 302 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean either you don't show up. I mean like, 303 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: but also, why bring your ultrasound pictures? 304 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: So, Opie? There is the holiday party before that. Opie 305 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: had planned on announcing it at but then she found 306 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: out that she wasn't invited, so so she brought it 307 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: to the baby shower. That one's a maybe that's a 308 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: great a great question for the audience. So she had 309 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: planned on announcing it at a non baby shower event, 310 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: but this was the next closest event after that. 311 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: You Opie, we love you because you're part of the OKAM. 312 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: But we have seen some posts in the past where 313 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: it's like it's kind of bad form to announce that 314 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: you're pregnant at someone else's baby shower and bad form 315 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: to uh like in the same vein, like bad form 316 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: to propose at someone else's wedding. And I think the 317 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: sharing sharing your even though you didn't go and like 318 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: show everyone like the fact that you brought them, I 319 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: think is maybe a little bit of a social faux pas. Yeah, 320 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: but what do you all think of a comments? Curious? 321 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: I don't think it's a major one, but based on 322 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: some stories we've read in the past, like it seems 323 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: like people do not like when other people announce their 324 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 2: pregnancies at other people baby shot the baby shower. 325 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: Let us on the comments what you think. I was 326 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: so confused, as I thought, when you're invited to something, 327 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: it's okay to attend, and it shouldn't have mattered that 328 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: my bump was showing. 329 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: I didn't wear anything to draw attention. 330 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: I even wore a light pink dress that was more 331 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: casual and not tight on my bump. 332 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like she like wears a skin tight body 333 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: shit with like a like a hole right around the 334 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: baby baby in heah, Yeah, just like has like marker 335 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: right here baby. Yeah. 336 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, did you know that I'm having a baby, 337 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: But hope you didn't do that anyway. None of that 338 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: family has talked to us since or met my baby. 339 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: My daughter was born a month early and it was 340 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: so scary at the time. I was rushed to another 341 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: hospital with better equipment in case I needed a natal 342 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: intensive care unit, which is which is something that I 343 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: have to give babies that are prematurely born, and her 344 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: heart rate kept dropping so low that it was a long, 345 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: scary day. Oh, I am so proud. Due to COVID 346 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: protocol still being in place, only my husband, my mother, 347 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: and his mother could be at the hospital, so my 348 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: mother and husband were posting about it on Facebook to 349 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: let people know. My husband had friends that he hadn't 350 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: spoken to in years, extended family we don't talk too much, 351 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: and even his boss reaching out to let him know 352 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: that they were thinking of him and asking how me 353 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 1: and the baby were doing. After her birth. She was 354 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: born healthy, but due to some complications, I was kept 355 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: two days and my daughter was kept for an extra day, 356 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: but they luckily let us board there due to breastfeeding. 357 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: During the whole thing, not one of the family asked 358 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: if I was okay or about my daughter. 359 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: Yikes. 360 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: They don't talk to us, but are too nosy to 361 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: delete us on Facebook, so they saw all of the posts. 362 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: I would have thought they could not be so childish 363 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: and at least ask how my daughter was so. Am 364 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: I the a hole for not going to her birthday 365 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: shower all those years ago or for going to this 366 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: last one being pregnant. 367 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: I don't think you're the a hole for not going 368 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: to the birthday shower because you just got some really 369 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: difficult news and I think that's okay. Yeah, I do 370 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: think you're a little bit of the a hole for 371 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: bringing your ultrasound photos to someone else's baby shower. 372 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you carry ultrasound photos like like kind of 373 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: like you have a kid of your kid in the 374 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: picture of your wallet because I'm kind of picking up 375 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: we don't know. 376 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 2: Maybe so he just kind of like casually showed it 377 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: and then that's what it sounds like. Snatched and that 378 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 2: it was spread through So like it doesn't sound like 379 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: ob wasn't planning to announce it. No, but maybe it's 380 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 2: just like much he was planning to announce it at 381 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 2: the baby shower. Yes, I think I think social football. Yeah. 382 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry for the long post, but thanks for reading. 383 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: Of course, we got your Mama twenty two. Just was 384 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: hoping to try and get some help on this, as 385 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: I don't see what I really did wrong. People have 386 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: lives that can't attend to every event. I didn't make 387 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: a fuss about them not coming to my gender reveal. 388 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: I just added it to the story for context. We 389 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: may did it because we had family that made it 390 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: in from another state to watch, and some of my 391 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: family don't use social media or just try to do 392 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: it virtually, so we invited direct family and then posted 393 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: on social media for the rest that couldn't make it. 394 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: I never said a word to any of them about 395 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: them not coming, to mind, I just figured that something 396 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: had come up. Yeah, the big question is, which we've 397 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: basically already talked about. 398 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: Op the a hole for not going to the baby shower. 399 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 2: After she found out that was it the baby shower, 400 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 2: it was a different baby shower. It was yeah, first 401 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: baby ses. Yeah, so is Op the a hole for 402 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: not going to the baby shower? Actually she found out 403 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 2: that she the IVF treatment failed and then if she 404 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: the a hole for going to the baby shower later 405 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: pregnant with the photos from her ultrasound. Yeah, so I 406 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 2: want to know, put your answers in the comments right now, 407 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 2: do it? This is okayop fam? Yeah, but what do 408 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: we think? Sam? I mean, I stand by what I 409 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: said before. I think not the a hole for uh 410 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 2: not going to the other kind of like baby shower 411 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 2: thing because you're you're hurting. And I totally understand the 412 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 2: whole idea of like, uh going through the loss of 413 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 2: realizing you're not gonna have the kid, but uh for 414 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 2: the baby shower stuff, bringing your ultrasound like and and 415 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: going to announce your own pregnancy had someone else's baby 416 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: shower poor form. 417 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: Maybe I'd be very curious, Mamma twenty two, if you're 418 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: watching this, make another post on our slash Okop show 419 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: and maybe maybe give. 420 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 2: Us some context on kind of how it went down 421 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: at the shower. I'd love to see it. Yeah, and 422 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: please and the comments let us know what you think. 423 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: Put your answers below and we'll see you very soon. Bae. 424 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 2: This is an episode from Deep Within the Archives. 425 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: Time for okop relam. 426 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: My son's ex claim that she's pregnant with his baby, 427 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: So I demanded a paternity test? Am I the a hole? 428 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 2: I don't know. 429 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: It kind of depends, you know, if if you're like 430 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: if the you know, the son and the gulf are. 431 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: Like, hey, we're pregnant, he's like, no paternity test. I 432 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: honestly think like, if my kid gets pregnant early, I'm 433 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: like paternity testing anyone, really, yeahity test immediately, you know. 434 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: But if they're like like thirty, it's like, hey dad, 435 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: we're pregnant, it's like pat, pat, that's all test. 436 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: My son, eighteen, has found out that one of his 437 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: ex girlfriends is eight months pregnant. Oh he knew nothing. 438 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: Oh eight months, that's that's she's pregnant. She's all the 439 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 2: way pregnant. Wow. He knew nothing of her being pregnant 440 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 2: until now, and now he's just expected to accept everything, 441 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: no questions asked. Yikes. My daughter is good friends with 442 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: this girl and knew about her pregnancy but said nothing 443 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 2: to us because her friend asked her not to thanks. 444 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: Dude begs a lot. My son was head over heels 445 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: for this lady, but she ended up breaking his heart 446 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 2: by cheating on him and was very needy and manipulative. 447 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: He spent a lot of money on her because she 448 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 2: would ask him for gifts and my son couldn't even 449 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: afford those gifts, and she convinced him to use one 450 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: of my credit cards to achieve it. This girl sucks, bro, 451 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 2: He's simfin my dad's credit card is. My daughter isn't 452 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: currently living with us, and she's actually rooming with her 453 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: my son's ex, by her college, and she's also being 454 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: manipulated by the ex because she just thinks that this 455 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 2: ax only does good and doesn't believe that she convinced 456 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 2: her brother to use my credit card or even that 457 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 2: she cheated. Wow, So basically all of the evidence, the 458 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: credit card, the cheating, the sister anything. No, she's so great, 459 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: she's superior. Is His sister showed up with my son's 460 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 2: ex girlfriend at my door to help her tell us 461 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: that she's pregnant. When I saw there at my door 462 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: visibly pregnant, I knew she was going to be saying 463 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: that my son is the father of her child. But 464 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: I immediately said that my son will not be putting 465 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: any money or time until there's a paternity task proving 466 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 2: that this is indeed his child. My son backed me 467 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: up and agreed. 468 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: Okay, that's smart. It's like, hey, if it is cool, 469 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: but if not, then leouty. 470 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: But my daughter, my son's sister was horrified by the 471 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: common and accused me of encouraging him to be a 472 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: deadbeat father and was upset. I didn't even give them 473 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: a chance to explain themselves. My son's ex started crying, saying, 474 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 2: you always assume the worst to be and she experienced 475 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 2: eight months of pregnancy alone, and the least we could 476 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: do is ensure she's taken care of for the betterment 477 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 2: of this child. I do agree that if this is 478 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: his child, we're going to ensure the mom is doing 479 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 2: well and ensure the baby is doing well. But I 480 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: don't want my son to be involved with her only 481 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: to get his heart broken again and only to find 482 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: that the child isn't his. Oh that would be bad. 483 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: Am I the a hole here? I don't know? Is 484 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 2: OP the a hole? I think OP. 485 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: Has a right to be suspicious about what's going on. 486 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean any any young relationship. I think, 487 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: like it's fine to get a eternity test. You should 488 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 2: always get it. 489 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: They're so young, it's like, yeah, which is And also 490 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: like if it's true, then. 491 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: What does it hurt exactly? 492 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: And I feel like it's one thing if Opie's son 493 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: said like if you're if you were the one that 494 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: potentially is the father or whatever, that's like it just 495 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: comes off more abrasive. But like if it's a dad, 496 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, they're just trying to I don't know, yeah, 497 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: trying to sus it out. 498 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: I mean. Also, it's like an eighteen year commitment of 499 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: like finances and. 500 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't just be like okay, I'm just gonna 501 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: blindly go with and you know do this, like. 502 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, give me something. But there is an update. My 503 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 2: daughter and I spoke on the phone, and I explained 504 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: to her that if the baby really is his, and 505 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: then the test will only lock in his responsibility for 506 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: the baby, and there's no way I'd ever encourage my 507 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: son to abandon any of my grandbabies. My daughter finally 508 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: agreed that the test would be beneficial and told me 509 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: she'd call me back later. I ended up getting a 510 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: text back instead of a call, asking if they could 511 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 2: come back over to talk, which I agreed. When they 512 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: came over, my son's ex admitted to not actually knowing 513 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: who the father was and that she had been in 514 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: a relationship with multiple guys, which is why she took 515 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: so long telling my son because she was trying to 516 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: figure out who is the father of her child. But 517 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: she's now certain it's my son. She agreed to do 518 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: a paternity test as soon as we are able to 519 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: do one, on the condition I pay for it. One 520 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: other thing I found is that my daughter and my 521 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: son's ex have actually developed a romantic relationship, which is 522 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: beyond shocking to me. I mean, explains why she's been 523 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: sticking up for my son's ex as much as she's 524 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: been doing. But it's just not something I thought my 525 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 2: daughter would ever do. I mean, that's her brother's ex, 526 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 2: someone who broke his heart. It's not just something I 527 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: can understand. Always love my daughter, but it just hurts 528 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: me seeing my son feeling hurt by the whole situation. Bruh, 529 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: I mean, the plot twist of the plot. 530 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: It's like my own sister is seeing the girl who 531 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: like you know. 532 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: Who I loved. Oh dude, that dagger in the heart 533 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 2: is kind of sucks, dude. Yeah yeah, yikes, yikes, but 534 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 2: definitely get a paternity test. This is this is a 535 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 2: mess already. 536 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: Don't fall love when you're young, especially if you have 537 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: a sister who can steal your girl.