1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. Uh can't we just talk? Edition 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: as I sit down for a series of one on 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: one conversations with five different players, including two guys that 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: I think Bengals fans are especially eager to hear from, 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: Joseph Osai and Jackson Carmen. The Bengals Booth Podcast is 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: presented by Ultimate Bengals. Download Ultimate Bengals ahead of the 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season. It's free to play next level 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: fantasy football with fantastic Bengals prizes. Get it now on 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: the App Store and Google Play. 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The 26 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: Bengals faced the defending Super Bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 27 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: who surprised many of us by starting Tom Brady at 28 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: quarterback in the preseason opener. Here's how the Bucks opening 29 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: series ended. Rookies Joseph Osai and Cam Sample are both 30 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: in to rush Tom Brady on third down and ten. 31 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: Giovanni Bernhardt pack in and running back lines up to 32 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: the right of Brady, catches a high shotgun snap, looking 33 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: scrambling and sacked. Brady brought down at the thirteen yard line, 34 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: and as the Bengals sack them on third and ten, 35 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: that sack went to rookie Joseph Osi, who had seven 36 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: quarterback pressures on only twenty three pass rushing snaps. According 37 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: to Pro Football Focus. He was the star of a 38 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: nineteen to fourteen win and I spoke to Osi right 39 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: after the game. We're in the locker room with rookie 40 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: Joseph Osai. Part of the Bengals excellent performance in the 41 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: preseason opener and in your case, a sack of Tom 42 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: Brady on the Patriots opening drive. Look how big of 43 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: a throw was that? It was awesome. You know, I 44 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: grew up watching him play before Robin Harkhouse. He was 45 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: lined up against me, So it was definitely dope seeing 46 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: those guys and living a dream. But I just know 47 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: we got to get back to work, so it'll be dope. 48 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: We got great guys on that line all over. You know, 49 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: for him to get moved, it was it was a 50 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: team effort for him to get moved to me. I 51 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: just happen to be in the right place at the 52 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: right time, so you know, it was a great effort. 53 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see how he'd grow as a 54 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: team throughout the season. You're being modest. I admire that 55 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: technically a combined sack between you and Trey Hendrickson, But 56 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: was it surreal to look down and see the goat 57 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: after your first preseason sack? It was definitely dope, man, 58 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: it was awesome. I looked before the place started. I 59 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: looked back and I saw him and I was like, mine, 60 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: that's that's Tom Brady. So it was definitely dope. But 61 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: um yeah, i'd be just hopefully there's many more dose 62 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: to come, you know. But as it turned out, there 63 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: weren't more to come. Oh side did that interview with 64 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: his right wrist wrapped up. It turned out to be broken. 65 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: In the days that followed, Joseph experienced pain in his 66 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: left knee that turned out to be a meniscus injury 67 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,119 Speaker 1: that required surgery. Joseph did not play again as a rookie, 68 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: but the Bengals are hoping that he can have a 69 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: big impact this year, particularly it's a pass rusher. So far, 70 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: in the offseason practices, he's been working off to the 71 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: side with several teammates who are recovering from injuries. I 72 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: spoke to the twenty two year old this week. Joseph, 73 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: Right now, we see a working out on the rehab 74 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: field with Nick Cosgray. How are you doing physically physically 75 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: little body wise, doing great upple body wise. We're getting 76 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: there gradually, you know what I mean. I'll let you 77 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: ask Nick how my progress is. But we're getting a 78 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: lot of strength back, and that's one of the things 79 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: we wanted to do. So a lot of progress for sure. 80 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: So knee okay, risks still coming along, risk still coming along, knees, 81 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: knees ready to go. What was last year like for you? 82 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: I would see you come in here from time to time, 83 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: going through rehab, meeting with the medical staff. Was it difficult? Yeah, 84 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: it definitely was, especially I think I've said this plenty 85 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: times that being the first football season I've ever missed 86 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: since I started playing, it was definitely tough. But like 87 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: I said, I had great people around me to keep 88 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: my head up. You know. It Definitely it was tough, 89 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: even with the people around me at a certain point. 90 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: But you know, having those people around me and then 91 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: seeing the success of the team, you know, you always 92 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: want to I could see that some of these guys brothers, 93 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: so um, you always want your brothers to win. You 94 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: always want your your your family, your people to win. 95 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: So seeing them succeed and have a lot of success 96 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: definitely kept my spirit up for sure. Where were you 97 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl? Super Bowl? I was right on 98 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: the sideline, Yes, sir, it was it was. It was, 99 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was a bit of sweet 100 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: for sure. It was awesome seeing them ball out and 101 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: then for us to fall short, um and see a 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: lot of those guys shed tears. It definitely hurt, you know, 103 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: and it made me want to get back even faster 104 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: to try and help and and see what I could 105 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: have done to to you know, give a lot of 106 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: put a smile on a lot of those guys faces. 107 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 1: So uh, it was. It was a bit of sweet 108 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: for sure. We're visiting the Joseph as I. I interviewed 109 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: you in the locker room after the Tampa Bay preseason 110 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: game where you made that that was me. He made 111 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: a great splash. And I mean I obviously had no 112 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: idea that you were hurt. That was the last game 113 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: he would play. What about you? Yeah, it was. I 114 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: had no idea about the knee, but um, the rest 115 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: we at first they thought it was a broken fracture 116 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: skate forward bone when I went in during the fourth 117 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: or the third quarter, I don't remember. I think it 118 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: was third. So um, they would say, and I would 119 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: miss three four games. And I was even crying about 120 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: that because I didn't want to miss any games. I 121 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: had never missed any games ever. So they come to 122 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: find out, you know, with the with the X rays 123 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: and you know, mriyes and stuff, that I was gonna 124 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: be out for the whole season. So it was definitely 125 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: a gut punch. But you know, I'm glad I did 126 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: get to play in that game and enjoy the moment, 127 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: you know, getting getting even though it was preseason, getting 128 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: getting to be out there with those boys and play 129 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: was truly enjoyed and zac break. Yes, yes, hopefully we 130 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 1: can do it again this year. Man, that'd be dope. 131 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: Did you gain anything last year just in terms of, 132 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, being around the team, watching the Bengals defense 133 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: and the way that it operates, Sir, I learned what 134 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: it takes to win. I saw how hard these guys 135 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: worked and how focused they were, how locked and they 136 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: were in meetings, how detailed they were even in walk 137 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 1: croughs and on a practice field, you know, how detailed 138 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: Coach Hobby was, Coach Lou and it laid the blueprint 139 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: for me. So now coming in almost as a rookie, 140 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm not a rookie, thank god, 141 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: but almost as I have that one game under my 142 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: belt to kind of help my confidence. But coming in 143 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: as a rookie, I kind of have that blueprint. I 144 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: got to witness it firsthand, so I know where it takes. 145 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: So if i'm if I'm ever not at that standard, 146 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: I can look back and say it's not gonna cut it. 147 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: We're not gonna get back to where we need to 148 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: be if you're not at this standard. So that's what 149 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: I gained from. Sure, your debut was so impressive. I 150 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: think a lot of us feel like, man, we got 151 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: a taste of what this guy is capable of. It 152 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: was it similar for you? Um? For me, to be honest, 153 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: it was just I was just out there playing, you know, 154 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: I was out there having fun and it was It 155 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: wasn't until afterwards that I realized. I looked at the 156 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: stat stat line and I saw what I did, and 157 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: I remember after I generaline had worn off a little bit, 158 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: I remember what happened. So UM, for me, it was 159 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: just playing. UM moving forward. That's when I'm gonna try 160 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: to keep it. Like. I know, there's all these expectations 161 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: and that could create pressure, but UM, at the end 162 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: of the day, I'm trying to win, so all that 163 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: stats and the pressure shouldn't bother me. I won't let 164 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: it bother me. You know, that's my goal going in, 165 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: but um, I just have to keep working in it 166 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: to come. What are you looking forward to the most 167 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: when you're back out there just playing, just playing? You know, UM, 168 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: when you when you play this game for so long 169 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: as I had, UM, you almost forget that it's actually 170 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: a blessing to be out there on the field. You 171 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: forget that people get hurt left and right every day, 172 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and people careers get cut short. 173 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna be blessed and super thankful, thankful 174 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: to God, Thankful the opportunity to just be out there. Now, 175 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. I'm looking forward to, just 176 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: being able to be out there with the boys playing, competing, fighting, sweating, 177 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's really it. All 178 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: the other things would come. I feel like, do you 179 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: have a target in terms of being back because at 180 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: the beginning of training camp, beginning of the season, what 181 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: is your nick? Nick has said the beginning of training camp, 182 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: and that's what we're aiming for. And I think right 183 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: now we're all chat well, we look forward to it. 184 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: Hopefully that is the case. Great to chat again. I 185 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: look forward to doing it after great performances. Again, Sarah, 186 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: thank you so much. I appreciate that Josi was the 187 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: Bengals third round draft pick. Last year. In the second round, 188 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: they selected offensive lineman Jackson Carmen, who started six games 189 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: as a rookie as he made the transition from playing 190 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: left tackle at Clemson to mostly playing right guard in 191 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: the NFL. This year, he's among the leading contenders to 192 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: start at left guard, and he's looking to show offensive 193 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: line coach Frank Pollock that he's ready to live up 194 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: to his massive potential in his second NFL season. Jackson, 195 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: We've heard a lot about year two in the NFL, 196 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: particularly for an offensive lineman, being much easier than year one. 197 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: I know we haven't hit training camp for the season yet, 198 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: but in general terms, do you feel like that's going 199 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: to be the case for you? Definitely? I feel like 200 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: I learned a lot from my first year. I'm I'm 201 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: ready to apply everything I'll learned in my second year. 202 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 1: The left guard job, as far as we know, is 203 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: up for grabs. Is that the target for you? I'm 204 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: just compete as hard as I can every aspect. I'm 205 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: doing whatever my coach is asking me. You'll look good physically. 206 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: How have things like that done for you this offseason? 207 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,479 Speaker 1: Thos are going great. I had really good training this offseason, 208 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: and I feel really good. My body feels good. I 209 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: feel like I'm making a lot of progress, and I'm 210 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: happy I feel this way, you know what I mean, 211 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: Probably that my body's feeling good and functionally all those things, 212 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: or visiting the Jackson Carmen. The Bengals obviously brought in 213 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: some great vets to add to the offensive line. Tell 214 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: me about your interaction with those guys and if you've 215 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: already started learning learning things from being around them. Yeah, 216 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: interacting with Ted and Alex and Leo. It's so funny 217 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: because like I used to watch these guys way before 218 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: I ever, you know what I'm saying, got to this 219 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: level and being able to, like, you know what I'm saying, 220 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: to be teammates and friends and learn like with people 221 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: that like I used to watch Leo in high school, 222 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And being able to be 223 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: locker room Mexicans super cool for me. So definitely I've 224 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: learning a lot from these guys already. They're great guys. 225 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: Even mentioning those guys, your face lit up. It seems 226 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: like that's something that you look at is a huge 227 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: positive for yourself and for the team. Most definitely huge positive. 228 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, I'm looking forward to 229 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: see what he's going to be coming into the season. 230 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: How did you feel about your rookie year? How would 231 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: you classify it? I felt like I learned a lot. 232 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: It's a great learning experience. I had a lot of 233 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: fun I had I was able to do, like be 234 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: a part of something I was greater than myself and 235 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: do things that a lot of people can't say they've 236 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: done in their rookie year collectively as a team. So 237 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: I was just really grateful, you know what I mean. 238 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: Bless So I feel about my rookie year. You're coming 239 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: out back surgery going into your first year, you don't 240 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: have to deal with anything like that going into year two. 241 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: Does that make a big difference. I mean, whenever you 242 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: have back surgery, you're always going to have to deal 243 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: with like upkeep and maintenance stuff like that, and something 244 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: that is a part of my regular root team. So 245 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: this team went to the super Bowl exceeded pretty much 246 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: everybody's expectations. What was that experience like for you? It 247 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: was amazing, you know what I mean, to be able 248 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: to be a part of something so like special and 249 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: how because at the beginning of the year no one 250 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: really expected us to do anything, and then for us 251 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: to all, you know what I'm saying, come together do 252 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: what we did, even though we didn't complete the end goals. 253 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: Still it was really amazing. So I'm grateful for all that. 254 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: So locking at some of the offensive line drills today, 255 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: you and Cordell Volson we're doing some stuff together. How 256 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: does that situation or you know, that vibe work for 257 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: you where you're working every day with somebody where it 258 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: looks like you're going to compete, be competing with that 259 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: guy for the job. Yeah, man, I love it. Cordell's 260 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: awesome because we look at him and looks like brown man, bodies, 261 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: cut up, smart shart, all those things, and really nice 262 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: guy too. So I've been really enjoying my time getting 263 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: no Cordell and also likes NFL. Everything you do is competition. 264 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying, how early you show up to the building 265 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: as a competition. How how well you're eating on the 266 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: weekends as a competition. So everything we do is competence, 267 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: says is the nature of the game, so just part 268 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: of it could cut you out. Appreciate your time, Appreciate 269 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 1: you Now. I've said it elsewhere and I will reiterate 270 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: it here that I still have really high hopes for 271 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: Jackson Carmen. He showed me something during training camp last 272 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: year when he did extra work on his own after 273 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: nearly every practice and was usually among the last players 274 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: to leave the field. I'll be eager to watch him 275 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: fourth round pick Cordell Volson, and perhaps others as they 276 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: battle it out for that starting left guard spot in 277 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: training camp. The Bengals Booth podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals, 278 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: the free to play fantasy football game. This past season, 279 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: Ultimate Bengals awarded a weekly winner during the course of 280 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: the year with tickets, autograph merchandise, and money can't buy 281 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: experiences all up for grabs. Find Ultimate Bengals in the 282 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: app Store and Google Play Up. Next, a visit with 283 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: one of the Bengals' biggest stars, wide receiver t Higgins. 284 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: Burrow now scrambling fires deep down field for Higgins push 285 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: it over as defender catches the ball runs it into 286 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: the end zone. There's no a seventy five yard touchdown. 287 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: Burrow two Higgins as he knocked over jail Raps and 288 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: ran it into the end zone to get the Bengals 289 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: the lead. The six foot four inch receiver wrote one 290 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: K on his mirror prior to last season and reach 291 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: that goal with one ninety one yards during the regular 292 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: season before adding three hundred and nine more in the playoffs. 293 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: T had surgery on his left shoulder after the Super Bowl, 294 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: so he's not practicing right now, but he expects to 295 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: be ready to go for training camp. As I was 296 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: watching practice today, just seeing you standing by some of 297 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: the other wide receivers and dvs and so forth, you 298 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: look taller to me. Are you still growing? Oh? That's 299 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: crazy because everybody, every time I'm away for a few 300 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: and I come back, everybody say that I looked taller. 301 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, or what I'm wearing 302 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: on my feet or I don't know. Everybody says I'm 303 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: taller soon. Well, you did enter the NFL at a 304 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: really young age, so it's not out of the question 305 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: that you're still growing. Very true, Very true. It could 306 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: be a possibility, But I don't know. How are you 307 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: doing physically? Physically? All I'm doing well, You know, obviously 308 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people have questions about my shoulder. Um, 309 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go ahead and get it straight to 310 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: the point. My shoulder. I have full range of motion 311 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: back and right now I'm just working on strengthening it. 312 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm not rushing anything. I'm being patient and you know, 313 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: just taking my time with this. It's something you have 314 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: to take your time with and so I can be 315 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. But a lot of times the season starts, 316 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: you're really good as a rookie, you're outstanding in year two. 317 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: What's up for year three? Um, just another another you know, 318 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: good season for me. Um. Like I was saying, um earlier, 319 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: I just got to be consistent. That's that was my 320 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: main thing. Um. My rookie year, I wasn't consistent. And 321 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: I mean I had a great season whatever, But you know, 322 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: my jumping into my second year, I was more consistent 323 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: with my play. And that's that's one thing I want 324 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: to keep keep doing, you know, throughout my career. It's 325 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: being consistent stacking games on type of games. So that's 326 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: the biggest thing. So you're gonna post any numbers on 327 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: a mirror anything like that again this year, Um, probably 328 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: around training camp. I don't know yet. Um, I hit 329 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: that thousand mark, so that's that's the standard now. Um, 330 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: but I don't know yet. Maybe I'll try to do 331 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: touchdowns this year. So yeah, I usually make my goals 332 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: around training camp. So the salary market for wide receivers 333 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: has exploded this offseason. A year from now, they'll be 334 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: talking to you about that. Is that started to enter 335 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: your mind? Um? Obviously I've been hearing, you know, seeing 336 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: I've been seeing a whole bunch of things. Um. But 337 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: you know, me and my agent has and I've been 338 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: talking about none of that. I don't talk to really 339 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: anybody about you know what what's to come in in 340 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: the future. All I can do is focus on now 341 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: rehabbing my shoulder and just just being the best version 342 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: of me being the best team and that could be. 343 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: You know. So did it take a while to get 344 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: over the Super Bowl loss for you or did you 345 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: move on pretty quickly? Obviously? You know it took me 346 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: like two days. I'm like, dang, you know what, what 347 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: what could I have done? What could we have done 348 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: another team? Um to have a different outcome. But I 349 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: mean it's just one of those that you know, you're 350 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: blessed to playing one of those games. You know. So 351 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: you know a lot of people don't get to play 352 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: in that game. You never know. Um, the goal is 353 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: to get back, but you never know. And um, but man, 354 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: it's just gotta let it go out. It's just gotta 355 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: let it go. Man, it's just another loss. You caught 356 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: two touchdown passes in your first Super Bowl. That's a 357 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: big deal. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. It's like 358 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: it's like it's like it's a step up. You know, 359 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: my first national championship in college, I call one and 360 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: then my second Nation championship, I only had one touchdown. 361 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: But you know, going to the league, you know, just 362 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: two touchdowns in the biggest game in my in my 363 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: retired football career, and um, you know, I'm just blessed. Man. 364 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: That was that was a blessing. Um. I still look 365 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: back at those two those two players. Yeah, I'm yeah, 366 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: I grabbed this face mask, but they didn't call it 367 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: so but man, yeah, man, it was just a blessing. 368 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: I didn't have to bring it up. I knew I knew, 369 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: I knew it was coming. I knew it was coming. 370 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: So I have a lot of people mentioned that like, hey, 371 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: you should have been Oh yeah, I'm like, but they didn't. 372 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I scored twice, 373 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: So this's whatever. The first touchdown pass came from Joe Mixon. 374 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: That'll be a trivia question someday. How much fun was 375 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: that play? Knowing that that was coming, It was a 376 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: lot of fun. It's crazy we put we had put 377 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: it in that week. Um, we didn't really show their practice, 378 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: you know, because the media. You know, it was just 379 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: the kind of like walked through it a little bit, 380 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: and man, we called it. I knew what I had 381 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: to do. Joe told me that how he wanted me 382 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,479 Speaker 1: to run that, how quick he wanted me to be, 383 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: and it all worked out. Joe Mixon told you that, 384 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: or Joe Burrow told you. Mixon told me that. Yeah, 385 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: he was being a quarterback. How it was his throat. 386 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: It was actually perfect. It was a tight spiral on 387 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: the run. I'm like, okay, it was just high and 388 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: to where I was the only way they can get it. 389 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: Should do anything fun yet this offseason? Or will you 390 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: In early July? Um, I I went to Mexico. That's 391 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: pretty fun. None because he just went out there, you know, 392 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: just foot, the vibe, you know, being next to some 393 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: blue water, you know, just having a good time. Man. 394 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: So it's fun. Well deserved. Congratulations and a great year. 395 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: Look forward to year three. Thank you, thank you. And 396 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: for the record, I wasn't joking with Tea at the 397 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: beginning of that interview. I think he's grown. It wouldn't 398 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: surprise me if he's up to six five. There are 399 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: two conversations remaining up next. A cornerback who made one 400 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: of the biggest tackles of the season in the AFC 401 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: Championship game from the one yard line with five seconds 402 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: left and a half. Mahomes throws Hill catches at the 403 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: six and tackled beIN bounds and the cock right. So 404 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: like a very questionable decision by the Kansas City Chiefs. 405 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: They threw it side bideways to Tyree Kill and the 406 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: Cheetah could not get in or get out of bound. 407 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: Eli Apple with a tackle at the one and the 408 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: Bengals dodge a bullet as Kansas City drives to the one, 409 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: runs two plays and fails to score. Eli Apple was 410 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: one of the biggest bargains in the NFL last year. 411 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: He was signed for about a million bucks to add 412 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: depth to the secondary, but quickly took over at cornerback 413 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: for the injured Trey Waynes and wound up starting fifteen 414 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: games in the regular season and all four in the postseason. 415 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: The twenty seven year old was rewarded with a one year, 416 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: four million dollars deal in March. How did it feel 417 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: to resign? No, I feel great. It feel great to 418 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: be back with the guys, be back with lou and 419 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: coach Teyler. Really appreciative of this opportunity just to be 420 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: back and I have another year that we can build on, 421 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: of course a super Bowl winning. Do you feel like 422 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: you were one of the unsung heroes of the Super 423 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: Bowl run last year? You know, I feel like I 424 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: was just somebody that I was looking to improve every day, 425 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: somebody that I really wanted to connect with the team, 426 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: teammates and guys around me and learn from them. And 427 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: I thought I did that pretty well going throughout the 428 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: season and trying to progress every day. Now it's just 429 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: about locking it every day and get better, way better 430 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: than I was last year. I think if anybody looks 431 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: back on some of the biggest plays from last season, 432 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 1: your tackle just before the half and the AFC Championship 433 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: game of Tyreek Hill has got to be very high 434 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: on that list. Is that a moment that's become really 435 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: meaningful for you? I mean, yes, it was what it was. 436 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: I guess at the time I didn't realize it, but yeah, 437 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 1: it was definitely, you know, huge. But there's a lot 438 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: of plays you can pick apart the whole game, you know, 439 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 1: especially from the defensive standpoint that made a difference. So 440 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's just about doing your job and competing 441 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: hard all the time and let the results, you know, 442 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: happy as they may. We're chatting with the Eli Apple. 443 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: What do you do after a season? You go back 444 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: and look at all of it? Or since you're doing 445 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: that on a weekly basis, you know, don't you have 446 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: to do that? Yeah? Yeah, Well, so being back now, 447 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: we've got our whole games or iPads and stuff. So yeah, 448 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking through everything and I just feel like 449 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm a totally different player now mentally. So it's just 450 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: about building on that, getting that confidences and incorporating what 451 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: I've learned from watching film just on the field field 452 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: and not making those same mistakes. You know, you had 453 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: a Twitter post or Instagram post fairly recently where you 454 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: talked about something like the fire has been relet? How 455 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: did you mean that? It's just always finding more more 456 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: someone to just keep going for it, you know. Obviously 457 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: super Bowls what you you know what I'm saying, as 458 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: a team, strive for it. For me, it's just continue 459 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: to just get that excitement to get better every day, 460 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I feel like that's 461 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: what I meant, just bringing that attitude. I already had it, 462 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,719 Speaker 1: already have it because it's in the sim But now 463 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: it's just about you know, just spreading it around the 464 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: whole locker room and giving everybody got juice every day, 465 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: no matter if we doing walkthroughs, you know what I mean. 466 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: So it was just about, you know, locking in all 467 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: the details and just coming together more as a team. 468 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: You know, how do you feel about the Super Bowl? 469 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: You made some plays? Obviously Cup made some plays. Nah, man, 470 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: That's that's the name of the game. That's the name 471 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: of the game right there. But I'd like to go 472 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: undefeated all the time and throw no hitter. Yeah, of course, 473 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: who wouldn't. But you know, you learn from those those 474 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: inter kate moments where you know you've battled little one 475 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: of the best. So him and Mat Stafford a great 476 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: connection obviously, and you know you put on a great performance, 477 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: especially on that last drive. So I thought it was 478 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: a great learning too. It's for me for the offseason 479 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: and for us as a group. Know, learned from from 480 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: that and just be better at finishing. You know, you 481 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: did a great job, but it's always more to more 482 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: to get I look back at that final touchdown. The 483 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: coverage was actually good. I don't know what a dbat 484 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: can do on a perfectly thrown ball on that particular route. 485 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: A lot you could have played that better, way better. 486 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: My leverage was way too hard on inside. He played 487 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: off the ball so I wouldn't be able to get 488 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: hands on so he can have some room to walk 489 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: up on me and create that space and mass I 490 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: could put it right on him, right on his back hip. 491 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: But I thought, you know, if I was head up 492 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: so outside, I would be able to be able to 493 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: get hands on look back for the ball. But you 494 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: know that's hindsight now and the heat of the moment. 495 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: You know, things happen, So you know that's off to them. 496 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: They they they did what they had to do to win. 497 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: Do you enjoy sparring with the people on social media. 498 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: It's a part of the game. All the fans, you know, 499 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: I put them off one group of category, just you know, 500 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: try to have fun with it. You don't take anything personal. 501 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: I'm never really angry, even if I come off as suck. 502 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: So I know a lot of people don't like it, 503 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: but you know the way I interact, you know what 504 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like you know, obviously, social media 505 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: is a space where everybody tries to let their feelings 506 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: go and display their their thoughts or whatever, or troll 507 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: most people. Allityd is that specially the media. So for me, 508 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: it was more of meekom than back trolling the trollers. 509 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: That's how I looked at it. But it's all info. 510 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: You got a locker room that appreciates what you did here. 511 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: Last year, you played more snaps than any other defensive back. 512 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: You feel like he found a home. I feel like 513 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: every day I'm blessed to be here. It feels like 514 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: home just because of the guys around and the coaches, 515 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: the way they've embraced me. So I just want to 516 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: concede to reward them, just my hard work in preparation. 517 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: Always appreciate your time. Thank you, appreciate you. In addition 518 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: to that key tackle of Tyreek Hill, Eli was also 519 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: responsible for tipping a pass near the end of the 520 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: playoff win at Tennessee that was intercepted by Logan Wilson 521 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: to set up Evan McPherson's game winning field goal. My 522 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: final conversation this week is with one of the sixteen 523 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: rookie free agents that the Bengals signed right after the draft, 524 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: Wide receiver Jack Sorenson, played college ball just down the 525 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: road Miami University, where he earned first team All MAC 526 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: honors last year by catching seventy six passes for one thousand, 527 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: four hundred and six yards and ten touchdowns. So, having 528 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: played at Miami, what's this experience like for you to 529 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: be with the NFL team right down the road? Yeah, 530 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, obviously, just getting a chance to play in 531 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: the NFL is a dream come true. It's been a 532 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: dream I've had for a long time. But getting a 533 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: play not too far away from where I spent six 534 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: years as pretty special. I got a lot of friends 535 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: that moved to since and have jobs here. So the 536 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: community and in the people that I know in Cincinnati 537 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: is it's just pretty cool to play for the team 538 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: that is represented by all those people. So you had 539 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: a monster year last year for the RedHawks fourteen hundred 540 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: yards plus ten touchdown catches. I believe did you start 541 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,239 Speaker 1: to think last year that you were going to get 542 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: an NFL opportunity? Um, yeah, I mean it's it's obviously 543 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: something of this in the back here. It's in the 544 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: back of her head at some point. But for me, 545 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: and I was so focused on the season, just the 546 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: game that was at hand, and I wanted to go out, 547 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, a MAC champion again, and unfortunately weren't able 548 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: to do that. But you know, I think the more 549 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: you think about the stats, then the more it takes 550 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: away from the team game, and the we game starts 551 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: to become a me game. And and half the reason 552 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: that I was able to have the success that I 553 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: had was because of the support staff that was around me. 554 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: I had great old line, I had a great quarterback, 555 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: I had other great receivers that opened me up and 556 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: gave me opportunities, and had a great coaching staff that 557 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: game planned really really well to put me in positions 558 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: to make plays. So the reason I had all that 559 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: success was really a culmination of everybody around me doing 560 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: what they needed to do. We're visiting with rookie receiver 561 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: Jack Sorenson. So Jamar Chase last year had some incredible 562 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: games as a rookie. I think two hundred and sixty 563 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: six receiving yards in a game, which was a rookie 564 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: record in the NFL. You topped that in a game 565 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: last year against Ohio two eighty three, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, yeah, 566 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean college to the NFL is a bit of 567 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: a jump, but um, I mean it's just cool being 568 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: not being around you know, Tea and and Trent Taylor 569 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: and Trent Irwin, and you know and and Tyler Boyd 570 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: and Jamar and and all these guys that you know, 571 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: some of them at a young age have had a 572 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: lot of success and then other ones are veterans in 573 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: the league that have learned a lot of great tips 574 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: and tricks on you know, how to run routes certain ways, 575 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: or how to read certain coverages and where the holes 576 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: are going to be. And just getting to be around 577 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: that type of experience every every day is is for 578 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: a young receiver a blessing um and hopefully, well, will 579 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, help me a lot a little the way 580 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: Is it kind of jaw dropping to practice with guys 581 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: like Jamar and t who are just such genetic freaks. 582 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, I mean I mean I wouldn't say, 583 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: like Starstrucker jaw dropping. Um. I think it's like I said, 584 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a blessing to be around as 585 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: such a young receiver. Um, getting the opportunity from learn 586 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: to learn from young guys that have had a lot 587 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: of success and then some other guys that have been 588 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: in the in the league for a while and have 589 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: learned how to have a lot to success consistently, consistently. Um, 590 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: just being around that and getting to see how they, 591 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, attack practices and how they attack individual drills 592 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: and how they attack special teams and the consistency that 593 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: they have day to day. I think that's um a 594 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: great uh you know example from for me to see 595 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: as a rookie. How about Burrow? Is Burrow jaw dropping? Yeah? 596 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, he's he's a great qub um, 597 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: but you know, just the same thing. I think. I 598 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: think it's for me, you know, I'm not getting the 599 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: reps with Burrow, but just getting to see him, just 600 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: watch him how he goes about and his mannerisms during 601 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: practice and how serious he takes it. UM. You know, 602 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: for me, it's a great example as a rookie to 603 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: to watch that and to you know, try to you know, 604 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: take after or exemplify a couple a couple of things 605 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: that he does in practice. So he's he's a great 606 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: example for all of us rookies. What contact did you 607 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: have with the Bengals if Annie in the pre draft process? Um? 608 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: Throughout about the pre draft process, I was at the 609 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: local day, UM, so I got to talk with some 610 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: of the coaches and UM kind of work with some 611 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: of the staff then and then just a couple meetings 612 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: here and there leading up to the draft. How do 613 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: you feel a guy like yourself can try to make 614 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: a mark? Yeah, initially, I think for me, you know, 615 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: obviously I want to contribute in the receiver room and 616 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: but for me, initially, and I'm really focusing on special teams, 617 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: I want to play all four special teams and UM 618 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: and travel that way. And then obviously, you know, if 619 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: I can contribute in any way in the receiver room, 620 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: I want to do that too. But I think for me, initially, 621 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to attack and be the best special teams 622 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: player for me on the team that I can be UM, 623 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: because I think that's the best way I can contribute 624 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: this first year. And you know, if the opportunities come 625 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: at receiver, then I'm obviously gonna take goes and run 626 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: with them. But um, initially, I'm going to learn as 627 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: much as I can to be a sponge at the 628 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: receiver position and then just try to attack the special teams. 629 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: I think he noted off the top he spent six 630 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: years at Miami. Was that a blessing for you to 631 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to have an extra year to develop? Yeah, 632 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think I think it's it's a blessing 633 00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: and a curse. Right, you come in a little bit older, 634 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: UM than most rookies, so you know it's it's not 635 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: the best in that way, but UM, yeah, blessing in 636 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: the sense that you know, I got I got six 637 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: years to develop, UM into the player that I really 638 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: felt like I could be in college and it kind 639 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: of showed that last year. UM. And you know, I 640 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: think I come in as a rookie with a little 641 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: bit more maturity and understanding of UM, you know, how 642 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: to you know, handle really long seasons and how to 643 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: handle big off seasons like um, you know that that 644 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: COVID gave us and just different stuff like that. You know, 645 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of experiences in college that had 646 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: given me, you know, a sneak peek into what it 647 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: might be like to be UM an NFL player. So, um, 648 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: just those experiences over those six years, I think you are, 649 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, going to help give me an opportunity to 650 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: have some success in the NFL. Are your friends and 651 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: family savoring this opportunity? Yeah, yeah, I think they're. I 652 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: think they're adjusting a little bit. Um, A lot of 653 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: my uh, a lot of my families from Green Bay, um, 654 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: so uh, you know, just trying to push some orange 655 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: and black into their into their wardrobe, um slowly. But yeah, 656 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: it's it's been awesome. Everybody been super supportive and really happy. 657 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: This is a dream that I've expressed I've wanted for 658 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen years now, so you know, everybody's just really 659 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: happy for me, which is which is also a thing. 660 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: Here's an interesting nugget about Jack Sorenson. He is related 661 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: to Milwaukee Brewers manager Craig Counsel. That's going to do 662 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: it for this episode of the Bengals Booth Podcast presented 663 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: by Ultimate Bengals. Download Ultimate Bengals ahead of the twenty 664 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: twenty two season. It's free to play next level fantasy 665 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: football with fantastic Bengals prizes. 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