1 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Welcome into JAG's Am today as we get ready for 2 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: two days of joint practice with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 3 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: Lots of fans on hands because it's gonna be a 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: good one. 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Finally get to see some matchups against players, not going 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: up against themselves on the same team, so that's always 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: exciting for us. 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: Let's get into our big. 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: Things right off the bat, because big thing number one 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: is joint practice. There's a lot to be gained from that. 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson spoke earlier in the week about why he's 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: so fond of having joined practices with others with other teams. 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. You get to pick the situation, the scenarios. 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 3: It's very controlled. 15 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: There's no live tackling or anything like that. 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: It's you know, but they're their physical practices. 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: But you can get you can. 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Get quite a bit out of them. So special guests 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: with me here this morning. Let's check in with Jeff Logman. 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: What does a joint practice bring to the game. Why 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: is it so special to have a joint practice with 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: another team. 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: It's a great question, and the biggest thing that it 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: brings is competition. You know, you're used to going against 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 3: your own players. But then all of a sudden you 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 3: add another team and then a fan base that's going 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: to be watching very closely. It just amps everything up, 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: and that's what you want to have as an evaluator, 29 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: like for coaches and the scouting staff, the higher the 30 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: level of competition that you can get to a game, 31 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: the better it's going to be. 32 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: JP. 33 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: We had the pleasure of doing this last year we 34 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: went to Detroit. Now we're hosting a joint practice. 35 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: What do you kind of get out of it? When 36 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: you get to watch practice. 37 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: You get to see the starters go. You might not 38 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: get to see many reps for last week. For example, 39 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: the Jaguar starters, if you will, had nine snaps in 40 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: the game. Well today they'll have what fifty or sixty Jeff, 41 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: I mean, they're going to have a lot of opportunities 42 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: out there against another team, and as Doug reference, there 43 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: no live tackling, so you can protect your guys for 44 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: the most part. Those are invaluable reps for the starter 45 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: and a really good piece of film to watch after 46 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: this next two days. 47 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: Our second big thing today is going to be matchups 48 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: to watch because, as you guys mentioned, going up against 49 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: a different team you can learn a lot and learn 50 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: about different defenses and offenses. 51 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: So JP, when you're looking. 52 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: At different position groups today, where are you going to 53 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: be honing in? 54 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: What are you going to be watching? 55 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: Okay, the Jaguars defensive backs against this great Buccaneers wide 56 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 3: receiver corps. Mike Evans is probably going to Canton at 57 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: some point. 58 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 4: How are they going to cover him in one on ones? 59 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: Tyson Campbell, Mike Evans, get your popcorn ready. 60 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 4: I'm excited for that. I'm also logs. 61 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 3: The guys in the middle are going to be fun 62 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 3: to watch today too, because the Bucks have some beef 63 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: up front. Well, and one guy in particularly that's got 64 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: a lot of beef, which is Vita Vea. I think 65 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 3: he goes about three hundred and sixty pounds now he's 66 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 3: tried to swim down a little bit. He's a nose 67 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: tackle for the Bucks. And the Jaguars have a new center, 68 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 3: Mitch Morse. So I think that's a great opportunity to evaluate. 69 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: Is when you have a joint practice, when you have 70 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: the big guys in a controlled environment. Boy, that's when 71 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: the coaching staff really gets a lot of evaluation. 72 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: At that point, our final big thing today is going 73 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: to be Armstead activated. Eric Armstead, who is signed in 74 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: the offseason, is going to be seeing his first action. 75 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: He's been out there practicing on the side, but not 76 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: with a team, Jeff, when you have a player coming back, 77 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson talked about Armstead when he does come back, 78 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: he wanted him to be at one hundred percent. 79 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: You expect we'll see that today. 80 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 3: Well, And I think it's smart, you know. And that's 81 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: the one great thing about kind of the new age 82 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 3: of the NFL is that you can take care of 83 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: the players up until hey, it's time to get ready. 84 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: And Armstead's played a lot of football, so I don't 85 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: really worry about that. He's a premium athlete. And if 86 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: you happen to hear to Sean Gibson, who has recently signed, 87 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: when he came in, he talked glowingly about two things 88 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: that Armstead brings to the table. Number one is a 89 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: great performance and he's a heck of a football player. 90 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 3: Number two, great leadership. So I'm looking forward to him 91 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: getting back in the mix. I don't know how much 92 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: he's going to be doing out there today against the Bucks, 93 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: probably off to the side until he kind of gets 94 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: up to speed. You know, we've heard leadership, leadership, leader 95 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: ship around this guy. To Sean Gibson spoke yesterday and 96 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: it was teammates with him out in San Francisco, and 97 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: that's the first thing he did was went up and 98 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 3: gave double A a hug. That's what he said. So 99 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: he's that type of guy you want in your locker 100 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: room to kind of lead the ways. A lot of 101 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: young guys with a new defense, a lot of change 102 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: happening here. Somebody that can be that that compass, that 103 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: center for this team. 104 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 4: Maybe he's that guy. And obviously he's. 105 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: Hopefully still playing at a high level coming off that injury. 106 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: Let's see him work back to health. 107 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: And Doug Peterson said, guy that is probably likely next 108 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: week against Atlanta where he would get some game time. 109 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: All right, we'll keep an eye on that today for sure. 110 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: Stay with us here on jag zam as we look 111 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: a little bit more into joint Factice and what we're 112 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: gonna be looking at. Welcome back to jag Zam, brought 113 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: to you a part by Fields Auto, Jacksonville's premier lugery 114 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: the auto group. Go to Fields Auto dot com. This 115 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: this welcome back to so that today I have two 116 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: special guests. 117 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: It's like happy our Thursday in season. 118 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: Wow, But Doug Peterson Show's next. Now I'm kidding. It's 119 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: only on Thursdays. But it's great to be with you 120 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: this morning. 121 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 2: Guys. 122 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: We see each other every day, but it's always nice 123 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: to we do a little show together. 124 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: No doubt. And it's nice to be in the air 125 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: conditioning for a while before we go out into the 126 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: blast furness. 127 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: So absolutely, because it's going to be in the heat 128 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: of the day today as they take on the boxes. 129 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure that was probably the point of having practice. 130 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: A little bit later in the middle of the day 131 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: and getting the most out of it in these Florida conditions. 132 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: But before we get out there, we're going to talk 133 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: a little bit about what we've seen so far this 134 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: preseason and this or that we kind of do either 135 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: or for us for this segment, and we talked a 136 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: lot about Parker Washington, that great return he had on 137 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: the first kickoff that we saw. But when it comes 138 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: to a group like that, obviously, Devin Dubernet was brought 139 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: in in the off season as a free agent to 140 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: do just that. Obviously, preseason we can't take a ton 141 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: out of playing time. But do we know exactly what 142 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna look like? Jeff, who do you think is 143 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: going to be doing this? 144 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 2: It could be two players, but who are they gonna be? 145 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: Well, we know it's gonna be two because that's the 146 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: new kickoff pool. You have to have two guys back. 147 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: Devin Duvernet is clearly, in my opinion, gonna be one 148 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: of those guys. Now, who's gonna be the other guy? 149 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a mix in the match 150 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: a little bit. Who's healthy and who's gonna be active 151 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: on game day. I think Parker Washington's a possibility. I 152 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 3: think Tank Digby is a possibility. And if you listen 153 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: to what Doug Peterson talked about, he talked about the 154 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: new kickoff return being very similar to a zone run. Well, 155 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: if it's similar to a zone run, then what you 156 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: want to have a zone running back right and Tank Bigsby? 157 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: So uh, I think it's I'm excited for this new 158 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: play though. I'm excited for the possibilities. And the league 159 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 3: could also tweak some of the rules as we go 160 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: along in this season, so we got to kind of 161 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: see what's gonna happen. Yeah, I'm with you. Jeff Duvernet 162 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 3: was brought here for a reason, and it wasn't to 163 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: be the fifth wide receiver, like he's here to be 164 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: the return guy. And that makes sense punts in and kickoffs. 165 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: And to your point, I think they could mix and 166 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: match some different ideas on the kickoff return depending on 167 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: what type of return maybe they want to execute. If 168 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: they want a running back style, okay, if they want 169 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: Parker Washington to do his thing, they can put him 170 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: in there. One well, the other team might just boom 171 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: it out of the back of the end zone. You 172 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: never know, So that could just change the whole strategy altogether. 173 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: And if they changed the rule and put a touch 174 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: back back to the thirty five, then all of a sudden, 175 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: those kickoff returns will be in play a whole lot. 176 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 4: More than you think. 177 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: Good point bringing up Tank Bigsby. 178 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: If he didn't trip himself up, you might have had 179 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: an even better return than we saw from park It's 180 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: a touchdown. 181 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 4: It would have been a house call. 182 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: I think he saw his eyes were getting big and 183 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 3: turned over. 184 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got him. 185 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: I'm so excited for him though this year. I mean 186 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: in that role, but then also as a running back, 187 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: just because last year when you came out of camp, 188 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: you would ask all the different veterans on the team 189 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: who you were excited about watching for the younger guys, 190 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: and multiple guys kept pointing to Tank Bigsby. But then 191 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: he had, you know, the kind of the disappointing start, 192 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: and I think there was a confidence issue kind of 193 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: in two different ways, one his own and then also 194 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: the coaching staff. But I think he's a stut and 195 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: I think if he gets a little bit of the 196 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: ball rolling to start the season, lookout. And I know 197 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: we're talking kick returns here, but to your point about Tank, 198 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: his performance in the game the other night at running back, 199 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: the way he moved and was decisive and downhill, that 200 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: will farewell for him in the future. 201 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: We've talked a ton on our show just about those 202 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: second year guys that jump they're going to make, and 203 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: both of those guys in their second year, so it's 204 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: good to see, at least in the preseason. 205 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: We hope that carries over guys well. 206 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: Also in this or that we're kind of looking as 207 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: we get closer to that roster cut down what exactly 208 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: that's going to look like Jeffie, you've been a part 209 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: of the process. Of course, final roster spots. How much 210 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: of this is locked in and how much of this 211 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: is really kind of up for grabs. And if you 212 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: do have a breakout performance, is there always space for somebody? 213 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 3: Oh, I absolutely think that there's always room for a 214 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: breakout performance. You know, there's a number of positions that 215 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: are probably up for grabs. I mean, ballpark probably five, six, 216 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: maybe seven. I think the majority of them that we're 217 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: looking at really are on defense. I think the offense 218 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: this is pretty well set. Yeah, we've got a wide 219 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: receiver group. I think we're pretty confident who's gonna play. 220 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: Maybe the last two spots or one spot there's maybe 221 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: up for grabs. The running back room. I think there's 222 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 3: a pretty good idea of their quarterbacks. We know what's 223 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: going to go on. But defense in the back end, 224 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: on the defense, the linebacking position, and also up front. 225 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: That's the big question mark. 226 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 4: Is on the defensive side of the ball. 227 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've got a new coordinator to figure out 228 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: a new defense and some new players to go in 229 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: those roles, so they've. 230 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 4: Got some time to do that. 231 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 3: That's why this game coming up Saturday is so big 232 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 3: because in theory, the starters are going to get most 233 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: of the time on the practice field this week, like 234 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: we talked about, that. 235 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: Means guys that are on the. 236 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: Bubble bubble, if you will, we'll get a lot of 237 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: time in a game under the lights in live conditions. 238 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 4: That's huge going towards their effort to make. 239 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: This rush and to kind of expand to what JP 240 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 3: mentioned there about having a new defensive coordinator. You know, 241 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: all these guys that were with his football team in 242 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: the year's past. When you have a new coordinator, okay, 243 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: there's not a lot of bank left. You know. What 244 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 3: I mean by bank is that you're not referring back 245 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: to what I what I did before. You know, so 246 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 3: the new coordinator's going to say, hey, look, I want 247 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: to see what you've done for me lately and what 248 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: you're doing for me now because I wasn't here last year, 249 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: so it's a little different. 250 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: Jeff, have you ever seen in your experience someone that 251 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: maybe had such a crazy performance and your memory at 252 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: recent or not that like won themselves a roster spot almost. 253 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to give you one that happened last year. 254 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 3: All right, what you got, that's Elijah Cooks. You know 255 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: he's got my depth chart here in front of me. 256 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: Elijah Cooks. Last year, the performance that he had in 257 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: the preseason was so strong that he was the highest 258 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 3: rated player in PFF's ranking system. Okay, and when you're 259 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: the highest rated player, even though it's a system that 260 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: most teams don't create themselves, it's something that a lot 261 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 3: of teams subscribe to. And his performance catching the contested 262 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: balls and the size of him, obviously the Jaguars felt 263 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: that they had to keep him on the active roster. 264 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: He's a perfect example of a player who who showed 265 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: in live action under the lights that hey, look I 266 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 3: belong and this year is he gonna make it? I 267 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: don't know. It just depends on that in game performance. 268 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: It look how so much toller he is than Parker Washington. 269 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: They're standing right next to each other. 270 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 2: Different skill set, It's right, it's a little. 271 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 3: Different style and that's a good one. I remember Jaydon Mickens. 272 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: I think he was that kind of guy too. This 273 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 3: is a few years ago. He was kind of a 274 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: kick returner. I think he was undrafted. Kind of thing. 275 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: Interesting story about him. He actually slept in his car 276 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: for a while. He was that guy. And he and 277 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: kind of interesting this with the week that you bring 278 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 3: this up. He also played for the Box absolutely and 279 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: and it really had some successful games and seasons down 280 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 3: there in Tampa Bay. But he's that guy that just 281 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 3: popped out of my head when you asked that question. Yeah, 282 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 3: because he slept in his car during training camp here. 283 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: That's it's pretty here. In the off season, he was 284 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: slept in his car, didn't have a place, didn't have 285 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: any money. 286 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 2: You think that guy wants a roster spot? 287 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,119 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah, who incredible. 288 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: I love to see that. 289 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: I love to see those guys that maybe are on 290 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: the fringe kind of earning their spot, and hopefully we'll 291 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: see another one or two of. 292 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: Those this season. Stay with us here on jag Zam. 293 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: We're going to answer some fan questions and we come 294 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: back after the break as get ready for joint practice 295 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: with the Buccaneers. For eleven years, Dreamfinders Homes has been 296 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: proud to call themselves the official homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. 297 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: Visit dreamfinders homes dot com for all of the available 298 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: inventory and go Jags. All right, guys, we've got an 299 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: ozone mailbag for you, but no Ozone, so we're gonna 300 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: have to fill in and do our best. 301 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: I have a question, why is he always frowning. 302 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: In the logo, you know, John Oser? 303 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess I can tell you this. 304 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: The logo is way better looking than John. 305 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: We have to post, we have to poke a little 306 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: bit of fun. If he's not here, he might as well. 307 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: And I heard he had card issues, like he loves 308 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: a mile and a half away, like walk it's ten. 309 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: Minutes if John doesn't come biking into practice at some 310 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: point to them to be arry. 311 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: You guys, can you guys picture John Friday in the bike? 312 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: No, maybe one of those little took things that they 313 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: have that all the fans used to get out of 314 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: the stage. 315 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: I'll just roll in with his. 316 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, somebody's riding the bike. 317 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 2: And straw hat. Yeah they're pedaling, ye yeah right. 318 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 3: I'll never forget. And I know we're going off the 319 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: rail seat. However, John Oser stories just popped in my head. 320 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: I remember one time Josh Scobe was in traffic on 321 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: day Meadows and took a video of John Oser running down. 322 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 4: The sidewalk jogging. 323 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: Really, it was fantastic that's not a very athletic run. 324 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: Oh man, have you ever seen John run? I can 325 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: get John because you know, John and I go way back. 326 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: Sure, I love John Oser stories. 327 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 3: Please When I when I was a player here, John 328 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: was actually one of the beat riders for the Florida 329 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 3: Times Union alongside Pete Prisco. 330 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: That's quite a do I mean. 331 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 3: And he had a ponytail. Pony's head had a little 332 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 3: pony tail. 333 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: Stop it. 334 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he walked around the locker room and he'd 335 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 3: asked questions. They had a little ponytail, and you know, yeah, 336 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: way back. 337 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: My favorite John Oder story because obviously I'm new. When 338 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: we went to London last year, he forgot his media 339 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: credential on the bus. We took a bus to Wembley 340 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: Stadium and they parked us rather far away because or 341 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: they drop us off. 342 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: But then we had to walk a little. 343 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: Bit into the stadium and he didn't have it when 344 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: we got to the security and couldn't find his way 345 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: back to the bus and had to call several people. 346 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: I think an hour later. 347 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: We got him in eventually pulled some strings and whatnot. 348 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: But I can imagine did he use the line don't 349 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 4: you know who? 350 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: I am. I'm Johnny O's. 351 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: Do you read Jaguars the mail bags? 352 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: Come on, come on, all right, We're gonna do our 353 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: best Johnny O impression and try to answer some of 354 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: these mail bag questions that he has from the viewers 355 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: as only Johnny Oken. But we'll do what we can. 356 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: Our first question is a little bit about the quarterback room. 357 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: Dave from Jacksonville says, is this the best quarterback room 358 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: that the Jags have ever assembled? 359 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: Ken? Or will they keep all three of these guys? 360 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: Wow? I think it's the best quarterback room you think 361 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: you ever Yeah to tot, I mean I do. And 362 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: here's why. First of all, you've got a guy that 363 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: you're paying fifty five million dollars to, Okay and Trevor 364 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: Lawrence that I ought to tell you that he's pretty good, 365 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: and I believe he's a franchise guy. Mac Jones' former 366 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: first round pick was a starter for a long period 367 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: of time with the New England Patriots, who they got 368 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: in trade, which was, by the way, one of the 369 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: best trades in Jaguars history. To acquire a player of 370 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 3: that caliber. On the way out, you're probably gonna get 371 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 3: a great contensially pick and then CJ. Bethards. You know, 372 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: so I like it because here's here's the thing, Trevor 373 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: and CJ. You can run the same system with and 374 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: my excuse me, Trevor and Mack and Mac is going 375 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: to be the backup in my opinion, and CJ. I 376 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: think there's a chance that he ends up on practice squad. 377 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: I don't think there's any doubt about that. And yeah, 378 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: you don't trade for a guy like Mac Jones for 379 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: him to not be your backup quarterback and have that opportunity. 380 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: So I think he in fact, I think he starts 381 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: this game and this is a big opportunity for him 382 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: to showcase because there may not be many opportunities in 383 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: the regular season for him to play. In terms of 384 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: the historical stuff, I'll leave that to you, but yeah, 385 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: you're right, fifty five million dollar guy, first round pick 386 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: and Mac Jones, CJ. Betherd's played a lot of football games. 387 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: This is Tony Boselli predicted this. He locked it on 388 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: Monday Night. But the Jaguars are going undefeated in the preseason. 389 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: I wonder where he got that because of the experience 390 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: at quarterback and compared to other quarterback rooms. 391 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 4: This time of year. 392 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: I mean, no offense to Nathan work, but there's no 393 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: Nathan Urkes on this team coming from the CFL. Okay, 394 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: and let me ask you a question, where do you 395 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: think the Selly got that line from? Was he talking 396 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: to you? He got it from me when I mentioned 397 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: it in our broadcast during the game. There you go, okay, 398 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: because you know, look at the reality is is that 399 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 3: when you're playing teams in the preseason, when you get 400 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: to their second half or into the second half, the 401 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: other team is playing a drafted player, some guy who's 402 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: been on the street, the very inexperienced. The Jaguars have 403 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 3: three guys that are highly experienced through and through. The 404 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 3: great thing from an evaluation standpoint is is that when 405 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 3: you have three quarterbacks that are functional, it actually allows 406 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: you to evaluate everybody else around them at a higher 407 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: level because the quarterback, when he's doing his job, then 408 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: everybody else can do their job. So I'm excited about 409 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: I'm also really excited about Trevor and Mac Jones being 410 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 3: one and two because if something happens to Trevor, the 411 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 3: system stays the same. In the past, when Trevor would 412 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 3: get hurt, you kind of had to alter the offense 413 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: a little bit to cater more towards some of the 414 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 3: strengths that CJ. Bethard has. In my opinion, with Mac 415 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: Jones and Trevor Lurch, you're not changing the offense. You're 416 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 3: something happens to Trevor, you put Mac in and you 417 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 3: play the offense. I think to that point last year, 418 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: whatever was happening with Trevor, I think they would have 419 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 3: been more apt to, hey, you know what, Trevor, sit 420 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: down a couple of weeks. Mac can handle this early 421 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 3: December and let's get you back for the stretch run. 422 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 3: But it didn't happen last year, and now they have 423 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 3: that opportunity. 424 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: I think that's a great point to make, because maybe 425 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: the back end of the season is a little bit different. 426 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: If you're practicing and playing that way, let's not hopefully, 427 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: or come. 428 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 4: On, Scott, if. 429 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: That way, I don't know. 430 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 2: If it's not, don't break anything, we don't own it, 431 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: all right. 432 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: The second question is about some of our defensive players 433 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: that we've been looking at and training camp. 434 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: Brian from Tampa says it looks like Chad. 435 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: Mumma's got a real role in the defense now, looks 436 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: like they might be using him at different positions, So 437 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: could he push for a starting role. 438 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: What's this defense going to look like exactly? 439 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 3: Well, it's a four down lineman defense in theory. It's 440 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: a four to three if you will, But how many 441 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: times are they really going to have three linebackers on 442 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: the field with the way offense is running the NFL today? 443 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 4: So is it a four to two. 444 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 3: Five nickel defense starting defense? If that's the case, that 445 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 3: he might not be on the field starting a whole lot. 446 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: I think he's got some things to prove still in 447 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 3: this camp lodge because there are a lot of newer, 448 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: younger faces in that linebacker room you talked about. This 449 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: is a spot that linebacker room where some guys are 450 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 3: trying to make the roster and make a name for themselves. 451 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's on the bubble, but I'm saying 452 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: he's got to show some stuff here in the next 453 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 3: couple of weeks to make sure he ensures that strong 454 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: side linebacker position. Let me just go back to the 455 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: original question, which was Brian from Tampa. Isn't it nice 456 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: to have Brian from Tampa collin or set right and 457 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: in for a Jaguars question. I appreciate that. Okay, so 458 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: we're stealing fans from Tampa. That's a great thing. And 459 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 3: to answer JP's question, he said, what's the percentage of 460 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 3: snaps at three linebackers are on the field? Historically in 461 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 3: the National Football League, about thirty percent of the downs 462 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 3: on defense, you have three linebackers on the field, and 463 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: as the league continues to go year after year, it 464 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 3: continues to grow to a lesser number. I like Chad Muba. 465 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: I think he plays hard, he's smart, he's aware. Is 466 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: he has athletically gifted If you're going to only choose 467 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: two linebackers, is he athletically gifted as Devin Lloyd, No, 468 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 3: not in my opinion. But in a three down linebacker set, 469 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: he can play the Sam and then if it goes 470 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 3: to a two down linebacker set, he can I think 471 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 3: play either the will or the mic. The great players 472 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 3: and the guys that have value are the ones that 473 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: you have that can play multiple positions, and especially at linebacker, 474 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: and all those guys have to cross train, and I 475 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 3: think that's what they appreciate most about MoMA is that 476 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 3: he can play all three positions. He's smart enough to 477 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 3: do that he's aware. He's a try hard guy. I 478 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: think he maximizes his athletic ability, and I think he's 479 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: also a really good special teams player, which for that role, Okay, 480 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: third linebacker, you know, play all the positions, do a 481 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 3: good job when you're on a field at linebacker, and 482 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: then you got to play special teams. He's a great, 483 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 3: great fit I think for this football team. 484 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: You guys mentioned those younger guys at linebacker as well, 485 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: so we have another. Our final question is about that 486 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: Ventrel Miller deal with that achilles injury last year. But 487 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: when he's gonna if he's gonna make this team, he 488 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: has that hand injury. I think the fan question specifically 489 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: was do we know if that cast is going to 490 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: be on his hand, as it will be removed before 491 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: the season starts. Obviously there's a ton of potential there 492 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: with him, but what's he going to be able to 493 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: do with these injuries? 494 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 4: Well, I haven't heard exactly what the injury is. 495 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 3: Nobody's really said that they don't have to in the preseason, 496 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 3: so you don't know the extent, But I mean it's 497 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: wrapped up like a gordina, right, So a gordina is 498 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: you've never seen Talladega Knights. No, no, I'm going Talladeagan Knights. 499 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: Rat five tackles in the game and nearly a pick. 500 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 3: I mean, that's it's good to see him on the field, 501 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 3: first of all, but he'll do anything to be on 502 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: the field considering what he's going through. Okay, let's talk 503 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: about what he's going through. He came back from an 504 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 3: achilles tear quickly. Okay, this is not a minor injury, 505 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 3: and and he looks to be playing fast. It started 506 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 3: training camp, it looks like he was still trying to 507 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 3: feel his way around. 508 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: Uh. 509 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 3: In the preseason game, I think, in my opinion, he 510 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 3: was one of the top four or five performances of 511 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 3: a Jaguars player. And he did it with that cast 512 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 3: on that left arm, and essentially the cast completely encompasses 513 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: the hand in the end, so he can't grab, he 514 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 3: can't use his fingers. That's hard to do his football player, 515 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 3: because especially linebacker, you know you're shedding blocks and you 516 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: don't have a hand to be able to grab. So 517 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: I give him a lot of credit for playing through this. 518 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: But the one thing that he has to prove, because 519 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: if you go back to his career, at Florida and 520 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 3: then so far in his career here he's been hurt 521 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 3: a lot. Availability is always the best ability for an 522 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 3: NFL player, So he's got. 523 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 4: To prove that he can stay on the field. 524 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 3: All right. Now, I've never had I don't know what 525 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,479 Speaker 3: it is, but if it was a broken hand of 526 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 3: some kind in theory, could you punch it a football 527 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 3: with that cast before? Yes, you can. I played with 528 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 3: it before. Does it hurt, Yeah, if you're going on something. 529 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 3: But you know here it can't hurt that bad because 530 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: you know he reached that arm out and knocked that 531 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: ball out on the cash defense that he had in 532 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: the game. And then the one great thing about when 533 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 3: you're wearing a cast, you can use it as a 534 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: weapon of sorts, because you know you're talking about additional weight. 535 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: You know, I want to I want to see one 536 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: of those one of those plays from the Long East 537 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: Yard and take that whole club thing and do one 538 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 3: of one of these things. And I think I think 539 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: I broke his neck, but it wasn't. That wasn't the 540 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: exact life Jones head slap. That's illegal now, you know 541 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 3: what I mean. He's not a pass rusher, but yeah, 542 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 3: you know, one of these uppercuts or for them up 543 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 3: under the chin. I actually saw him in the game 544 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: use that club one time in that fashion. 545 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: You have to talk to him about it, coach him up. 546 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: It's good. I mean, it's good. I mean if hey, 547 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 3: if you got to use it, there you go. 548 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 549 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: All right, we're getting ready for joint practice today. 550 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 2: Stay with us. 551 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more as we get ready 552 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: to take on the Bucks and practice. 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And then we talked about 559 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: position groups, but just overall, what are you hoping to 560 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: see physicality? 561 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: Well, number one, today, you want to see the starters 562 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: because this is the opportunity that you're going to get 563 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 3: to see them because they're probably not going to play 564 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: at all in the game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 565 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: and so you want to see starters versus starters, and 566 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 3: to see that level of competition ramp up. You know, 567 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 3: I'm going to be focusing on just them because I 568 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 3: know that during the game. This is a great opportunity 569 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: during the game coming up against the Bucks, to where 570 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 3: you're looking at those bubble players in the backups. This long, long, 571 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 3: long opportunity in game conditions. Let's see Brian Thomas Junior 572 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: against the starting corners for the Buccaneers. 573 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: One on ones today will be big. 574 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 3: We mentioned earlier, Vita Vea in the middle against the 575 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: interior of the Jaguars offensive line, Jags defensive backs. This 576 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 3: is a really good Buccaneers wide receiver room led by 577 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: Mike Evans. 578 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 4: Godwin's there. 579 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 3: I mean, the list goes on and on for this 580 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 3: Bucks team. Baker Mayfield's on the field today too. Yeah, 581 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: a bunch of first round pick quarterbacks out there for 582 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: both sides. So let's see the ball in the air today. 583 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 3: I think the real good thing about these joint practices 584 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 3: today because if you look at the Buccaneers what they're 585 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 3: known for, they're known for defense. They're head coach Todd 586 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: Bowles is a defensive guy. He is, in fact the coordinator. 587 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 3: They don't have an defensive coordinator. This is a great matchup. 588 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 3: This is going to be great reps for Trevor Lawrence 589 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: in this first team offense against a really good, really 590 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 3: good defense. And let me bring up something else. Let's 591 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 3: go back to last year the game in Tampa right 592 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 3: around Christmas time. Well, we got to because you know, 593 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 3: this could lead to something today. And the reason I 594 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: bring that up that was a game that the Jaguars 595 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: really got beat up on. It was embarrassing, it was 596 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 3: not a good performance. And if you want to get specific, 597 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: the Jaguars defensive front got beat up by some of 598 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 3: the Buccaneers offensive lineman. And the Buccaneers okay, Buccaneers dot 599 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: Com did this whole video segment where one of their 600 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 3: offensive linemen was miked up. Okay, so not only did 601 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 3: you get beat up, but then it was captured in 602 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 3: one of those film moments for Buccaneers dot Com or 603 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: whatever their website is. So it's kind of a little 604 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 3: bit of the hey, let me rub your nose in 605 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: it kind of the thing. And not that it was intentional, 606 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 3: it just happened that way. So if I'm one of 607 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: the Jaguars defensive linemen, i am not forgetting that game, 608 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: and I'm not forgetting the embarrassment of having the show 609 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 3: to show how bad it was. That said, I think 610 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you want everybody healthy 611 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 3: at the end of this thing. That's the idea of 612 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 3: these practices. It's not live tackling to the ground. You 613 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: can both teams can get their work in. They've been 614 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 3: working for the last few weeks, the coordinators together on 615 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: uncertain situations that you'll see at practice today. You might 616 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 3: not get two minute situations in the game, you're probably 617 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 3: gonna get some of the next two days. So keep 618 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 3: it as clean as you can. Get some great work in, 619 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 3: and I think that's what I'm looking forward to. 620 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: Yes, we don't want to fight, but things do get 621 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: a little chippy. 622 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 2: Keep your eyes out. Well, we'll be back here on 623 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: jag XAM tomorrow. 624 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: We'll have a little bit more of a recap and 625 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: then another practice with the Bucks. 626 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 2: So thanks for joining us. We'll see then.