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Speaker 1: This is the Jesse Kelly Show.

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Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the

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Speaker 2: Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Thursday. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about the Communists using our values against us. Here briefly,

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Speaker 2: I do want to get to this man Donnie story

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Speaker 2: out of New York City. Of course, ten minutes from now,

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Speaker 2: ten minutes from now, our final semi final matchup of

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Speaker 2: the crappiest country in the world tournament that's gonna determine

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Speaker 2: the finals which will take place next week for all

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Speaker 2: the marbles or rice, depending on what kind of country

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Speaker 2: we're discussing. All that, and plus Brandon Wikert about a

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Speaker 2: half hour from now, apparently the war with Iran is

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Speaker 2: gonna fire up again and Venezuela we might be dropping

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Speaker 2: bombs on them soon. This is wild anyway, All that

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Speaker 2: is coming up in this hour on The Jesse Kelly Show.

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Speaker 2: So obviously I don't really care about what Sonny Houston

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Speaker 2: has to say about anything. So it's not about the viewer,

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Speaker 2: Sonny host And what is important is that you and

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Speaker 2: I understand the tactics the enemy uses against us. We

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Speaker 2: have to understand what they're doing and why they're doing it,

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Speaker 2: so we can stop it. Right, she's talking about pro

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Speaker 2: life and gun owners, and.

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Speaker 3: Here she is, so you're against the death penalty in

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Speaker 3: all cases, because yes, people really design.

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Speaker 1: I'm against the death penalty in all cases. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think in all cases. And that's why I find there

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Speaker 1: is a hypocrisy with certain Christians who are pro life,

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Speaker 1: but they will pull that electric chair switch. They are

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Speaker 1: pro life, but they have their AR fifteens and their

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Speaker 1: immigrant family being chorn from each other. They are pro life,

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Speaker 1: but they don't care about little children's subsidies being taken

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Speaker 3: That is not pro life.

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Speaker 2: That is not pro life. Your pro life and you

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Speaker 2: have an AR fifteen, you're not pro life. It is

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Speaker 2: a tactic. We've talked about a lot. We continue to

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Speaker 2: grow and gain more stations and listeners. So we're going

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Speaker 2: to have that discussion again briefly. Right now. Communists do

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Speaker 2: not share your value system. In fact, they don't share

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Speaker 2: a value system that you would even recognize as human.

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Speaker 2: They're completely different. What motivates them is completely different. Let's

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Speaker 2: set that aside. But what it does do, what their

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Speaker 2: value system does do is it grants them permission to

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Speaker 2: use yours against you. And the reason I will continue

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Speaker 2: harping on this is the truth is this has been

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Speaker 2: probably the most effective tactic used by the communists on

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Speaker 2: the American right. They've been insanely successful using our values

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Speaker 2: against us for decades and decades and decades. It's really

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Speaker 2: the main reason why they were able to penetrate so

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Speaker 2: deeply into all of our institutions. We wanted to be nice,

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Speaker 2: we wanted to be kind, we wanted to be tolerant.

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Speaker 2: Whenever they would run up against some form of resistance,

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Speaker 2: they would appeal to your humanity. I thought you loved freedom.

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Speaker 2: I thought you loved Jesus. Don't you believe what it

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Speaker 2: says in the Bible? Aren't you going to be kind?

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Speaker 2: Shouldn't you be turning the other cheek? And we, not

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Speaker 2: realizing what was happening, not realizing why they were saying

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Speaker 2: what they were saying, constantly backed off, Well, you know

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Speaker 2: not nice. That Jesus would want me to be nice,

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Speaker 2: that is what he said. So I mean, okay, you

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Speaker 2: can all right, you can have the cup Scouts all right,

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Speaker 2: you know what with the actually you can be one

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Speaker 2: of the pastors in our church. Well, you know what, yet,

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Speaker 2: you can be my son's teacher. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: I don't want to look mean. And the second you

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Speaker 2: try to speak up, they whip out your Bible right

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Speaker 2: out of your pocket. Something they have nothing for, disdain,

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Speaker 2: nothing but disdain for by the way, nothing but disdain

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Speaker 2: for you and your beliefs. But they will whip your

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Speaker 2: Bible out in a heartbeat, and they'll hold it up

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Speaker 2: in your face, and they'll say, you want to own

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Speaker 2: a gun? I want to take your guns away. I

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Speaker 2: thought you said you were pro life. The Bible talks

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Speaker 2: think Jesus would want that? That's not what Jesus would want. Now,

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Speaker 2: Nothing but disdain for you and your beliefs. But they

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Speaker 2: them the second their revolution runs up against trouble. I

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Speaker 2: who has been trained in communist tactics for years and

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Speaker 2: years and years, in years and years. This is how

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Speaker 2: they've been trained. This is what they do. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to play it again. Write it in stone on your heart,

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Speaker 2: and understand every time they pull out your values, it

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Speaker 2: is to weaken your resistance to their revolution. This is

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Speaker 3: You're against the death penalty in all cases because yes,

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Speaker 3: people really desire.

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Speaker 1: I'm against the death penalty in all cases, so I

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Speaker 1: think in all cases. And that's why I find there

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Speaker 1: was a hypocrisy with certain Christians who are pro life positive.

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Speaker 2: Real quick, I'll let her go in a moment. What

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Speaker 2: should just do? I've noticed there's a hypocrisy if if

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Speaker 2: if if I sat down with you. Let's say we're

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Speaker 2: sitting down at Red Lobster, and we got some mozzarella sticks,

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Speaker 2: scampy butter as we do, just having a conversation, you

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Speaker 2: and me, and I very frankly told you that I

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Speaker 2: thought you were a hypocrite. I thought you were being

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Speaker 2: a hypocrite about something that would hurt your feelings, wouldn't it?

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Speaker 2: That would that would you wouldn't like that? You would

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Speaker 2: want to hear an explanation. And frankly, even if you

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Speaker 2: my gosh, am I being a hypocrite. Notice their hypocrisy

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Speaker 2: but they understand hypocrisy is something you don't want to embrace.

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Speaker 2: be thought of. And so they understand again a tactic

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Speaker 2: that is a great way to weaken your defenses to

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Speaker 3: You're against the death penalty in all cases because people

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Speaker 1: I'm against the death penalty in all cases, well, I

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Speaker 3: That is not pro life.

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Speaker 2: You call yourself a Christian. If you were a Christian,

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Speaker 2: you'd let me have my revolution. If you were a Christian,

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't believe in killing murders. If you were really

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Speaker 2: yourself from me. That way, I could send hordes of

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Speaker 2: Aren't you a Christian? If you were a Christian, you

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Speaker 2: would allow me to import entire prison gangs from foreign

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Speaker 2: Aren't you a real Christian? They do it all the time.

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Speaker 2: They have been trained in it. They have been thoroughly

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Speaker 2: this until the day they finally fire me and take

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Speaker 2: me off the air is because it works. I've watched

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Speaker 2: it work endlessly on the right, especially on the church.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to bore you again with the story

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Speaker 2: of losing my church after George Floyd died, not because

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Speaker 2: They pulled him into some commie black coalition where they

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Speaker 2: He did not understand he was dealing with trained subversives,

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Speaker 2: these people. Never ever, ever, let the Communists use your

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Speaker 2: values against you. All right, all right, North Korea is

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Speaker 2: about to go to war with Haiti. No, not in

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Speaker 2: real life, although that'd be entertaining. We're just talking about

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Speaker 2: on a wonderful, fantastic Thursday memory. If you miss any

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Speaker 2: for your honor as being the worst play on Earth.

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Speaker 2: The championship will take place. What is it Monday or Tuesday?

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Speaker 2: Chris Tuesday? Next Tuesday is the championship. Somalia already fought valiantly.

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Speaker 2: up to North Korea. It's up to Haiti. Now it's

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Speaker 2: a question. Look, you're both talented, you're both just awful.

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Speaker 2: it's about will who wants it more? North Korea or Haiti.

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Speaker 2: So let's do a brief version, a brief recap of

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Speaker 2: how are things over there in North Korea. They have

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Speaker 2: happened in World War Two. North Korea has a real

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Speaker 2: and then beating you senseless. You have no rights, no

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Speaker 2: freedom of speech. There is a strict class system where

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Speaker 2: you can't advance beyond the lower classes at all. They're slavery.

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Speaker 2: Did you think we were past that time? The North

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Speaker 2: which is, you know, slang for slavery in one of

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Speaker 2: Go vote. Let your voice be heard. Now before you

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Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday,

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Speaker 5: No, that's not the case. No, this thanks for having me,

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Speaker 2: next Trump certainly sounds like he's ramping up this war

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Speaker 2: The Jesse Kelly Show, It is the Jesse Kelly Show.

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Speaker 2: On a fantastic Thursdays. We cruise into the weekend. But

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Speaker 2: let's come back to Brandon Wiker speaking with our national

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Speaker 2: security guy, Brandon Wikert. You really should be hoovering up

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Speaker 2: his books. Winning Space might be one of my favorites.

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Speaker 2: But we're not talking about space. We're about to talk

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Speaker 2: about Venezuela. What's happening in Venezuela. Who's helping who? What

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Speaker 2: are we doing? Brand then take it away.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think that we are well, I know we

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Speaker 5: are getting ready to bomb them. I was told that

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Speaker 5: recently by somebody that I rely on for a lot

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Speaker 5: of information about US military information. It looks like in

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Speaker 5: the next two to three weeks there's going to be

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Speaker 5: something going on with US bombing of quote unquote drug

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Speaker 5: related targets in Venezuela. But I would just remind your

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Speaker 5: audience that when Trump says we're going after the drug

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Speaker 5: lords and the drug production facilities, Venezuela is basically running

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Speaker 5: the world's largest state owned drug cartel, which means if

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Speaker 5: we're targeting the leadership of the Cartel of the Suns,

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Speaker 5: which is the big cartel in Venezuela, technically we're going

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Speaker 5: to be targeting Maduro, the leader of Venezuela himself, because

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Speaker 5: he's basically the leader of this cartel. So that is

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Speaker 5: a little bit of an interesting sleight of hand that

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Speaker 5: Trump uses for basically saying we're doing regime change in Venezuela.

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Speaker 5: We've moved a flotilla off the coast. We've got about

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Speaker 5: about ten I think F thirty fives. These are the

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Speaker 5: Marine Corps variants, the ones that can take off and

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Speaker 5: land like helicopters, the F thirty five B. And it

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Speaker 5: looks like we're getting ready to do something. And I

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Speaker 5: think the reason that Trump is so gung ho about

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Speaker 5: taking out Maduro is and I don't know if you

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Speaker 5: know this is real or not. I'm just reporting what

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Speaker 5: I've heard from people close to Trump. Is that the

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Speaker 5: president really believes that there was an attempt by Maduro

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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty to basically help steal the election against him.

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Speaker 5: And if that is the case, if Trump really believes this,

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Speaker 5: the Venezuelan dictator is he's not getting out of this alive.

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Speaker 5: There's no way that Trump's going to let him get away,

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Speaker 5: you know, and negotiate his way out of this. Because

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Speaker 5: a lot of people have been asking me, like, why

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Speaker 5: is Trump so committed to Venezuela, And it does seem

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Speaker 5: a bit extreme because Venezuela you would not think is

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Speaker 5: like the number one threat to us, but Trump is

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Speaker 5: acting like it is. And I think it's because he

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Speaker 5: thinks Maduro had a hand in the you know, twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty election steal. But that is why you're seeing this

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Speaker 5: build up, and Trump is going to go in I

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Speaker 5: think in the next two to three weeks with airstrikes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I guess I have to ask the question

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Speaker 2: because I'm unaware, and I mean, maybe it's true. What

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Speaker 2: does Trump think Maduro did in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 5: Well, it has to do with this firm that was

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Speaker 5: started by a bunch of Venezuelan expatriots called Smartmattic and

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Speaker 5: they basically it's a software company that does all of

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Speaker 5: the electronic voting machines. They do a lot around the world,

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Speaker 5: much just here in the United States. And in fact

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Speaker 5: that one of the three of the corporate leaders for

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Speaker 5: that company are up on charges in the Philippines for

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Speaker 5: a bribering bribing election officials in the Philippines. But they

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Speaker 5: were if you remember, in twenty twenty, they were accused

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Speaker 5: of having by Trump of having to had a hand

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Speaker 5: and stealing the election. But ultimately, whether it's true or not,

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Speaker 5: the point is Trump believes that. And if Trump is

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Speaker 5: linking what happened in twenty twenty him losing to what's

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Speaker 5: going on in Venezuela right now, anybody helping for a

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Speaker 5: negotiated settlement, you're not going to get it because Trump

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Speaker 5: has got the bit between his teeth and he's like

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Speaker 5: a rottweiler. He's not going to let it go until

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Speaker 5: he tastes blood. And that's why you have this build

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Speaker 5: up there. And that's why I think the person who

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Speaker 5: told me we're probably going to start bombing in two

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Speaker 5: to three weeks is probably correct because he really thinks

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Speaker 5: that Maduro is like a really and Modua is he's

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Speaker 5: not a great guy, you know, but he's not interested

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Speaker 5: in negotiating with Maduro.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that obviously it leads us to is this

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Speaker 2: going to be a cake walk for us? Because I

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Speaker 2: would argue that most Americans, myself included, I don't claim

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Speaker 2: to be an expert, think about that regime and we think,

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Speaker 2: surely we're not going to lose anyone. Frankly, we're not

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Speaker 2: even really in danger of losing anyone. Certainly if we're

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Speaker 2: just dropping some bombs and doing flying some sorties. Am

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Speaker 2: I wrong?

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Speaker 5: Well, on the face of it, you're not. And initially,

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Speaker 5: you know, when we started building up, I was sort

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Speaker 5: of laughing, like this is going to be like Grenada

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Speaker 5: or like Panama in the eighties. Remember, you know, three

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Speaker 5: day war in and out. You know, we're we're good

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Speaker 5: to go. But then I start seeing these reports of

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Speaker 5: the drone capabilities that Russia and Iran for the last

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Speaker 5: several years had been helping Venezuela develop, and we start

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Speaker 5: hearing about the Padrino, the head of the Venezuelan military

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Speaker 5: this morning gave a press conference in which he claimed

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Speaker 5: they detected three or four of these Marine Corps F

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Speaker 5: thirty five b's in their airspace. So that starts making

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Speaker 5: me question are the Venezuelans being given training and capabilities

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Speaker 5: by the Russians, whom they have a military alliance with.

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Speaker 5: The Russians have really proven themselves effective at using really

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Speaker 5: innovative techniques on their radars for detecting American stealth planes.

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Speaker 5: The Chinese have also developed similar capabilities. It's not full proof. Still,

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Speaker 5: we have a lot of advantages with stealth, but the

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Speaker 5: Russians in particular have been really developing these innovative ways

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Speaker 5: of figuring out how to pinpoint American stealth planes. And

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Speaker 5: they're pretty cheap these method It's not like they're reinventing

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Speaker 5: new technology. They're using existing detection technology, but they're doing

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Speaker 5: it in a really unique way. They could be showing

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Speaker 5: the Venezuelans how to do that. I know they showed

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Speaker 5: the Iranians how to do that. So this is a

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Speaker 5: concern obviously, because the F thirty five is our big

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Speaker 5: primary warplane that we're going to be sending against Venezuela.

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Speaker 5: And while I do think the Venezuelan military is not impressive,

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Speaker 5: they do have certain unconventional capabilities that could make them

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Speaker 5: a bit harder to kill than we think. Furthermore, it's

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Speaker 5: a huge country, and you know the last thing we

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Speaker 5: want to do is get involved in some kind of

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Speaker 5: a jungle war. You know this is not really being

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Speaker 5: considered I think by the Pentagon as anything other than

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Speaker 5: a cake walk. But we might be surprised if we're

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Speaker 5: not careful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we sure mind. Brandon Mikaerh, you are the best.

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Speaker 2: Go pick up his books. It's the best, Brandon, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: my man. I appreciate you. I nerd out on that stuff, Chris,

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Speaker 2: I do. I nerd out on rough greens. You know

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Speaker 2: that I obsess over it. Well, at this point in time,

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Speaker 2: we're giving Fred a longer life every time we sprinkle

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Speaker 2: all the dogs I ever have dead food their whole lives,

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Speaker 2: because you give your dog brown dog food. I do it.

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Speaker 2: I did it. It's all I ever did. And I

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Speaker 2: always thought there was stuff in it. Surely there's stuff

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Speaker 2: in it, right, it's cardboard. There was stuff in it

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Speaker 2: at some point in time, but they killed it all

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Speaker 2: at the factory. So it doesn't go bad in a

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Speaker 2: week at the pet store. Without sprinkling rough Greens on

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Speaker 2: your dog's food, your dog never gets the live nutrients

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Speaker 2: Hang on