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Speaker 5: Ron Wolfley. A tough season, yes, makes for tough decisions.

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Speaker 5: In the NFL. The only constant is change. Usually it's

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Speaker 5: of the season on a losing streak and the next

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Polly, Unfortunately, we've been through this scenario before, and

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Speaker 1: Michael Bidwell and the Arizona Cardinals made the decision to

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Speaker 5: JG did have an opportunity to address the team and

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Speaker 5: in Cleveland. He might be intractive and intriguing on the

436
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Speaker 5: old radar. He joined the Cardinals State Farm Stadium February

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Speaker 5: twenty first for the inaugural Cardinals Climb fundraising event. Check

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Speaker 5: it all out Cardinals Climb dot com. We continue with

439
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Speaker 5: a big red rage presented by emergency airw Seth grows

440
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Speaker 5: over the middle.

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Speaker 2: It is caught by McBride.

442
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Speaker 4: He sets a new Cardinals record for catches by a

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Speaker 4: tight end.

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Speaker 9: Having one hundred pus receptions as a receiver.

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Speaker 2: That's a great year as a tight end.

446
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Speaker 4: It's a ridiculous year. Caught by McBride and pushed out

447
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Speaker 4: of bounds there it is Trey McBride moves past DeAndre

448
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Speaker 4: Hopkins establishes a new Cardinals franchise record most catches in

449
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Speaker 4: a season, pulled in by McBride. He's tackled at the

450
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Speaker 4: forty one. Ray McBride has set a new NFL record

451
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Speaker 4: for catches by a tight end in a single year

452
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Speaker 4: byers left side on a back shoulder. It's caught by

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Speaker 4: Michael Wilson. He's over a thousand yards on the season.

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Speaker 5: I tell you, the first two guys I would call

455
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Speaker 5: found the new head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. Give

456
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Speaker 5: me the number for eighty five and fourteen. That's the

457
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Speaker 5: first move.

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Speaker 2: I would make. That's pretty good, Paul.

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Speaker 5: Because those two guys, Wow, they're gonna be your competitive advantage.

460
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Speaker 5: I know the other three teams than it is during

461
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Speaker 5: the playoffs, but you know what, they don't have the

462
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Speaker 5: best tight end in the league. Michael Wilson, Oh my goodness.

463
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Speaker 5: I mean he definitely earned the Moniker of Wide Receiver one.

464
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Speaker 5: And those two guys ended up leading the way and

465
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Speaker 5: never stopped competing. It is a big red rage presented

466
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Speaker 5: by emergency here at Paul calBC. Ron Wolfley and well,

467
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Speaker 5: where do you start. You talk about Trey McBride, you

468
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Speaker 5: talk about Michael Wilson. Maybe you know what was most

469
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Speaker 5: impressive to you. What sort of memories and recollections impressions

470
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Speaker 5: are you going to carry into the offseason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pauly, you know, for me, once again, I have

472
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Speaker 1: to start with Trey McBride. You know my affinity for

473
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Speaker 1: this kid. I absolutely love him. I think he's a

474
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Speaker 1: guy that still cares about being a good blocking tight end.

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Speaker 1: I think he had a couple of games where he

476
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Speaker 1: took a step back from that, and I think he

477
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Speaker 1: also acknowledged that and at some point in the season

478
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Speaker 1: stepped up and said, I got to do a better job.

479
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Speaker 1: I love that. That's what I expect from Trey McBride.

480
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Speaker 1: He needs to continue to develop as a blocker, because

481
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Speaker 1: now we know everybody knows in the National Football League

482
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Speaker 1: he's just the best tight end in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: And you know you can say that about him in

484
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Speaker 1: regard to his receiving skills, the routes that he runs,

485
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Speaker 1: the fact that he knows how to recognize coverage and

486
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Speaker 1: run the correct route, and then when you're throwing the ball,

487
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Speaker 1: he's going to catch the ball. If it's anywhere in

488
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Speaker 1: his catch radius, he's going to catch the ball. I

489
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Speaker 1: think Trey McBride has has moved up to he's the

490
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Speaker 1: best tight end in the National Football League right now.

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Speaker 1: Having said that, Michael Wilson is a guy that I love.

492
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Speaker 1: I love his story. He's a smart guy, Paul. You

493
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Speaker 1: have to have smart guys on your football team. I

494
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Speaker 1: don't care what position you're playing, but to have a

495
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Speaker 1: smart guy that also is a wide receiver who can

496
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Speaker 1: read routes and read while he's running those routes, it

497
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Speaker 1: is just a huge asset for any offense. And Michael

498
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Speaker 1: Wilson proved that he is a guy that is a

499
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Speaker 1: number one or a number two receiver and that's where

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Speaker 1: he's always gonna be from this point forward, Paul, even

501
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 1: in number two, you've got that locked in.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And if you can unlock Marvin Harrison Junior, you're

503
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Speaker 5: looking at having the RAMS dynamic of Puka Nakua, DeVante Adams,

504
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 5: who looking at the Eagles with Devonte Smith, AJ Brown,

505
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 5: George Pickens, Ceed Lamb in Dallas, and then you add

506
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Speaker 5: the best tight end in the league. Well, if I'll

507
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Speaker 5: share this with you, I was talking with Trent Sherfield, right,

508
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Speaker 5: the veteran and former Cardinal who played with Larry Fitzgerald.

509
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Speaker 5: So I'm talking to him, and he said, you know what, honestly,

510
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Speaker 5: I compare Michael Wilson a lot of ways his game

511
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Speaker 5: to fits and I sort of did a double take,

512
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 5: and he said, and I talked to Larry still, Larry

513
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 5: brought up Michael Wilson on his own said he's a

514
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Speaker 5: fan of fourteen and just the fact he's not the

515
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 5: fastest guy, but he's such a superior route runner, so smart,

516
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 5: really strong hands, attacks the football a total dog once

517
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 5: he goes out there locked in, and you know it

518
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Speaker 5: is sort of now I tend to compare him a

519
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 5: little bit more to a Pooka Nikua when I watched

520
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 5: Nikua for the Rams and I watched Michael Wilson, and

521
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 5: they almost have the exact same measurables, but they seen

522
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Speaker 5: they play with that same competitive fire and they just

523
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Speaker 5: attack the football and they're so good at contested catches. Yes,

524
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Speaker 5: that's the modern day comp I see a little bit

525
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Speaker 5: to Michael Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I agree with that in regard to

527
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Speaker 1: the contested catch as well. I wow, Yeah, he just

528
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: didn't get the opportunity, Paul. He didn't get the opportunity

529
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Speaker 1: in novel to actually show that he could be that guy.

530
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Speaker 1: And yet that was the one thing I loved about

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Speaker 1: Jacobe Brissette when he took over. He started targeting Michael

532
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Speaker 1: Wilson and throwing him the ball even when he was covered,

533
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Speaker 1: and that reminds me of Larry Fitzgerald.

534
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Speaker 5: And props to Michael Wilson. He's always honest with the media.

535
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 5: And they asked him, you know, one thousand yards goal

536
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Speaker 5: for you and he said, yeah, especially because I had

537
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Speaker 5: three catches through three games. I had fifty two yards

538
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Speaker 5: receiving through the first five games, so it was a

539
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Speaker 5: big deal for him to get a thousand yards receiving.

540
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Speaker 5: And then Trey McBride, he has too many records he

541
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Speaker 5: set this year a list, but he did just set

542
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Speaker 5: the Cardinals all time team record for catches in the

543
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Speaker 5: season best in d HOP one twenty six on the year,

544
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Speaker 5: which is also the single season mark and NFL history

545
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Speaker 5: by a tight end. So there's that. Then they're all

546
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Speaker 5: the young guys who played, and young guys who improved,

547
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 5: and young guys who you figure out to be a

548
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 5: big part of the future. Isaiah Adams, who went through

549
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 5: some mid season struggles, including getting benched, then he returned

550
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 5: and just seemed to get better with every single game.

551
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Speaker 5: Here he is on what that benching did for him.

552
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Speaker 7: I think it was like a huge wake up call,

553
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 7: kind of get your dreams taken from you, and then

554
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,479
Speaker 7: there's only kind of two options to either fold. Are

555
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 7: you kind of taking on the chin. So it was

556
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Speaker 7: good to get reset in other areas of my life

557
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Speaker 7: and address those areas off the field that may be

558
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Speaker 7: impacting on the field. So it meant a lot to

559
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Speaker 7: me that is probably going to remember after the rest

560
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Speaker 7: of my career.

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Speaker 5: It's interesting. I think a lot of guys, the guys

562
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Speaker 5: who were smart in that locker room, realized there are

563
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 5: only two sorts of players in a season like this.

564
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Speaker 5: You're either part of the solution or you're part of

565
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 5: the problem. And so guys who worked on their game

566
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Speaker 5: and balled out to the very end I think serve

567
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Speaker 5: themselves very well.

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Speaker 1: PAULI, Yeah, I think we all would say that quarterback

569
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Speaker 1: is going to be a position that you've got to

570
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Speaker 1: figure out. You've got to figure out what you're doing

571
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Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty six. I think that would be

572
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Speaker 1: from a player perspective, that would be job one. Having

573
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Speaker 1: said that, this offensive line Paul has got to get fixed.

574
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Speaker 1: This offensive line, man. I'm telling you the last two years,

575
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Speaker 1: when we saw this new culture being instituted from JG

576
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Speaker 1: and the coaching staff, it was the offensive line that

577
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Speaker 1: really allowed them to go out and play with that

578
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: motor and that violence because they were able to go

579
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Speaker 1: out there and run the ball and be the more

580
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: physical team on the lineup scrimmage. Now, once again, that

581
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: was four wins in JG's first year and then eight

582
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: wins after that. But we all expected them to come

583
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: back and play and take the next step together and

584
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Speaker 1: be a better, more physical running team, and that didn't happen.

585
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Speaker 1: And it didn't happen from week one, Paul, remember that.

586
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Speaker 1: Just the disappointment that we all kind of felt, even

587
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Speaker 1: in the first two victories of the season, where they

588
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: just didn't go out and play the way that we expected.

589
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Speaker 1: Paulie in that offensive line more than anything else, to me,

590
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Speaker 1: has got to be fixed.

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Speaker 5: Paris Johnson, junior franchise left tackle, says his offseason will

592
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Speaker 5: not be impacted by the knee Andrew he'll have a

593
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 5: regular offseason. That's good news. Yelda Froholt got a shout

594
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Speaker 5: out from Jacoby Brisset at the end of the year

595
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 5: as the most unherlded, underrated guy on the team. Just

596
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 5: everything Yelda did as your starting center. But now you

597
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 5: got to find a right tackle and then you know

598
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 5: whether it's Isaiadas and John Gains. You bring in some

599
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 5: competition to the two guard spots. You let them battle

600
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 5: it out in camp. You see where you standing there.

601
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 5: And then on the defensive side, I'm with you, Wallf

602
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 5: it's quarterback, it's protect the quarterback, it's get to the quarterback.

603
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Speaker 5: Other than Josh Sweat. In the five games Walter Nolan played,

604
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 5: there wasn't a lot of consistent pass rush, so you

605
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 5: got to figure that out. And then, of course there's

606
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Speaker 5: the quarterback of the defense you cited earlier. Mac Wilson Senior, Well,

607
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 5: the only good news out of his injury is the

608
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Speaker 5: fact that Cody Simon, the fourth round rookie at Iowa State,

609
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Speaker 5: got a ton of reps, a ton of snaps, and

610
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Speaker 5: here he is talking about what he learned as a

611
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Speaker 5: rookie and what's ahead.

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Speaker 10: I've learned so much this first year, just about football

613
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Speaker 10: in general, but how to play linebacker at a high

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Speaker 10: level and watching the older guys do it, And you know,

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Speaker 10: I think this would be a really important offseason for

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Speaker 10: me to be able to make a a big leap

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Speaker 10: and really be able to separate myself and do what

618
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Speaker 10: I really need to do to contribute for this team.

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Speaker 4: What are some of the things on your checklist for

620
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Speaker 4: the offseason?

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Speaker 10: Oh, I think schematically, I think the best linebacker in

622
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Speaker 10: the NFL are always ahead of the game. I think

623
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Speaker 10: that's with the biggest step I need to take in

624
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Speaker 10: the off season, just being able to be ahead and

625
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Speaker 10: knowing how offense is going to try to attack our defense.

626
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Speaker 10: And then also physically, you know, doing combine training, you

627
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 10: don't really get to really develop your body in the

628
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Speaker 10: way you want it to. So, you know, that's the

629
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Speaker 10: stuff I'm kind of looking forward to right now.

630
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Speaker 5: There you go, Cody Simon, you can just hear the

631
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Speaker 5: overall maturity, the intelligence. All these reps hopefully payoff real well.

632
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Speaker 5: But you know, look, well, if you've been through coaching

633
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 5: changes before as a player ten years in the league,

634
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Speaker 5: what is that like in that room and what is

635
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Speaker 5: it gonna be like in the off season for these

636
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Speaker 5: guys with the new coaching staff, new decision makers. You know,

637
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Speaker 5: to what degree is everyone on edge.

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Speaker 1: Everyone is on edge for the most part, PAULI even

639
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Speaker 1: the guys that are established, the guys you know are

640
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Speaker 1: not going anywhere. Buddha Baker. Buddha Baker, I say he's

641
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Speaker 1: on edge because Buddha Baker isn't on edge as to

642
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Speaker 1: whether or not he's gonna make the fifty three. He's

643
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Speaker 1: gonna be Buddha Baker for the rest of his career.

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Speaker 1: Having said that, though, what kind of defense is this

645
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Speaker 1: going to be? How are they going to try to

646
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Speaker 1: implement me? How are they going to try to use

647
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Speaker 1: my talents? I mean, everybody is on edge from that perspective.

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Speaker 1: But man, there are so many guys that are on

649
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Speaker 1: the bubble for the most part, so many more guys

650
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Speaker 1: than typically are on the bubble. Anytime a new staff

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Speaker 1: comes in, Paul, you have no idea what to expect,

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Speaker 1: and because of that, there's a lot of guys that

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Speaker 1: are on edge.

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Speaker 5: You know, two other rookies have got a lot of

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Speaker 5: playing time, and you hope it pays off next year.

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Speaker 5: It would be Will Johnson, Denzel Burke, the rookie corners, you know,

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Speaker 5: again like Marvion Aris Junior. If you can unlock Max Melton,

658
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Speaker 5: you'd have a really good trios Starling Thomas. You figure

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Speaker 5: is coming back, so you know it's interesting, you know,

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Speaker 5: if you can a couple of those big questions you cited,

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Speaker 5: if you can answer those questions and then all of

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Speaker 4: As good as the food was last week at Cincinnati,

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Speaker 4: how would you rate the waffles we had free game

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Speaker 4: here in La. Yeah, this has been quite a disappointing

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Speaker 4: spread in my opinion.

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Speaker 9: I thought those the waffles were a little too sweet.

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Speaker 9: But I will tell you they do have uncrustables and

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Speaker 9: they do have sour patch kids. I do feel like

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Speaker 9: a toddler at a movie today.

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Speaker 2: You did teach me something today.

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Speaker 4: I didn't realize uncrustables were a player's favorite, and how

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Speaker 4: many have been consumed over the years.

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Speaker 9: Uncrustables crazy stat eighty thousand consumed per week by NFL teams.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, I put in requests with next

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Speaker 5: gen stats, try and verify Aq Shipley's stat and the uncrustables.

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Speaker 5: We're just not buying that. We'll see if we can

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Speaker 5: get a fact check on that. On the uncrustables, just.

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Speaker 4: Text Wolf when it comes to food. Althought maybe Wolf

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Speaker 4: has met as match because I've never seen Haul's combined with.

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Speaker 2: The sour Patch kids. But Aq is doing that up here.

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Speaker 9: Keep questioning me, PAULI the backhand slapped coming.

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Speaker 1: You know what, everybody enjoyed awesome, everybody enjoyed that a

687
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Speaker 1: little too much there that that last comment.

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Speaker 5: What do they say at the end of your rookie year,

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Speaker 5: you don't feel like a rookie. Maybe Aq got a

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Speaker 5: little too comfortable at the end of this season settling

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Speaker 5: in for Ron. But by the way, we never do

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Speaker 5: get Pash. He never told us if you ended up

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Speaker 5: being deemed the Cardinals fan of the year, because you know,

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Speaker 5: Pash had you leading the fan of the year contest

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Speaker 5: actually was Kenny Selena. So, uh, Wolf, you're beat out

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Speaker 5: in that in that kind.

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Speaker 2: Of okay, thank you, I appreciate that, Paul. All right,

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Speaker 2: no match for Kenny.

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Speaker 5: But come on, eighty thousand uncrustables every week or month

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Speaker 5: or whatever, we're not buying that.

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Speaker 2: So they are.

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Speaker 1: Good though, aren't they, especially the peanut butter jelly.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, so a Q Shipley who spent one

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Speaker 5: year as an assistant coach, so he knows how it works.

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Speaker 5: Here's my segue into letting everyone know the coaches you

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Speaker 5: see out there. Okay, if your teams are not in

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Speaker 5: the playoffs, you have a wild Card weekend by you're

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Speaker 5: allowed to do the virtual interviews beginning Wednesday, and you've

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Speaker 5: seen some of those, you know happen. If you're playing

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Speaker 5: in the wild Card weekend, you can do virtual interviews

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Speaker 5: beginning next Tuesday and Wednesday. So a lot of the

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Speaker 5: names to see you listed. With the Cardinals halfway Sala Brown,

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Speaker 5: you know they can go ahead and do that. So

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Speaker 5: there's that. Now, speaking of these wild card games, teams

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Speaker 5: that are in the playoffs, Wolf, let's go no huddle,

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Speaker 5: all right, let's go up tempo here. Let's start with

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Speaker 5: the Rams at Carolina. That's going to be a playoff

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Speaker 5: opener Saturday, two thirty our time. DeVante Adams expected to return. Now,

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Speaker 5: remember Carolina did beat the Rams back in November thirty

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Speaker 5: at thirty one to twenty eight. What are you thinking here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, you know, and I don't think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a close game. And I definitely don't think

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Speaker 1: even the Carolina Panthers, though they're the home team, will

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Speaker 1: be able to beat the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Not this time.

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Speaker 1: I think the Rams suffered a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: malaise over the last six weeks of the season. They

728
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Speaker 1: went three and three. Of course, to me, the Rams

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Speaker 1: are going to be a tough out and because of that,

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Speaker 1: I think they're going to handle the Panthers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they really beat themselves with the turnovers in that

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Speaker 5: November thirtieth loss. All Right, Packers at the Bears Saturday night,

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Speaker 5: six pm. They split the regular season series. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you got a Green Bay team that's lost

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Speaker 5: their last four regular season games. The Bears have lost

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Speaker 5: their last two. Jordan Love is gonna return from concussion.

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Speaker 5: Who's more equipped Jordan Love coming back with the rust

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Speaker 5: or Caleb Williams in his second year in playoff TV A.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is gonna be great, Pauy.

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Speaker 1: I love this because once again it's a brand new

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Speaker 1: paradigm when you get into the postseason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got these.

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Speaker 1: Young quarterbacks, these young quarterbacks that have actually done some things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they've played in you know, some big games.

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 1: But man, to me, this is my favorite game of

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Speaker 1: the entire weekend. And the reason being is because the

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Speaker 1: Packers and the Bears, are you kidding me? A division

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Speaker 1: rival this will be the third time that you're gonna

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Speaker 1: play them, And not only that, it's one in one

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Speaker 1: on the season. Both games were contested, Both games were

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Speaker 1: fairly close, the second game especially where it went into

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Speaker 1: overtime and the Bears won it in overtime. That to

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Speaker 1: me is huge. This is my favorite game because Paul,

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Speaker 1: this isn't a game. This is a grudge. This is

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Speaker 1: a grudge match.

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Speaker 5: It is the NFL's longest running rivalry. And yes, it's

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Speaker 5: hard to believe only the third time they're gonna meet

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Speaker 5: in the postseason. Like you said, that's that's really interesting.

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 5: Your Bills is a Buffalo native at the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 5: That's Sunday, the early game, eleven am. The Jags have

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Speaker 5: won eight in a row. They're averaging just under thirty

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Speaker 5: four points a game. Are you a believer in Jacksonville?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not, Paul, Paul, do you believe I mean honestly,

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Speaker 1: I Paul b would we saw them playing the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: You know again, man, they were in turmoil for the

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Speaker 1: most part. The Jacksonville Jaguars, I didn't. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: they were for real at that point in time.

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Speaker 5: Here's two things. One, they do have the NFL's best

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Speaker 5: run defense, so it's not just Trevor Lawrence and around

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Speaker 5: the yard. They're a pretty good running team and they

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Speaker 5: have a really good run d. And the Bills have

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Speaker 5: the top ranked rushing attack. Here's the thing. I'm not

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Speaker 5: sure if you're aware of this. The Holy can only

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Speaker 5: stat Buffalo. The last time the Bills won a road

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Speaker 5: playoff game nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, bring it on, ball. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety two. I was playing for the Cleveland Brons.

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Speaker 1: I really don't care, Paul. But to me, I think

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Speaker 1: the Bills, the Bills win this game, and I know

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a tough game, but man, Jacksonville, have

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Speaker 1: they turned it around. Trevor Lawrence, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: But this game I think is gonna be great. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna watch it because of my Bills, of course, but

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Speaker 1: I still think the best game Packers Bears.

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Speaker 5: All right, Niners at the Eagles, that'll be the next

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Speaker 5: game on Sunday two thirty. Here's all you need to

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Speaker 5: know in my opinion. Trent Williams did practice today, a

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Speaker 5: fully padded practice, so their franchise left tackle is back.

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Speaker 5: But but I mean that Niners defense is so banged up,

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Speaker 5: and I mean Philly at least is much more stout

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Speaker 5: on both sides of the ball. The Niners are basically

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Speaker 5: an offense and the defense has struggled at times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley and the Eagles, of course, they picked it

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Speaker 1: up a little bit in the second half of the season.

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Speaker 1: I expect them definitely to come out here. The talent

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts as well, playing at home, It's going to

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Speaker 1: be interesting to see how the forty nine Ers come out.

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Speaker 1: They are an excellent team. Don't get me wrong. I

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Speaker 1: think this is going to be maybe the most physical

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Speaker 1: game of the weekend right here, the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 1: against the Philadelphia Eagles. Both these teams have a culture

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Speaker 1: rich in going out and being the more physical team.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how that transpires. But I think in the end,

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Speaker 1: I think the Eagles win this game, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, Two more games here, Chargers of the Patriots. This

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Speaker 5: will be Sunday night, six o'clock our time. Patriots going

810
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Speaker 5: to play their first home playoff game since twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 5: Justin Herbert looking for his first playoff win. May the

812
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 5: NFL's most accurate pass are hard to believe. And here's

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Speaker 5: you want, coaching wolf, Jim Harbaugh. The Bolts are the

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Speaker 5: third team in fifty years to lead the league on

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Speaker 5: both the offensive and defensive side of third down conversions.

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Speaker 5: That's how efficient the Chargers are under Jim Harball, both

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Speaker 5: sides of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, two guys that I have a ton of

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Speaker 1: respect for. Mike Vrabel, of course for the head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Patriots, and then Jim Harball, of course for

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. These two guys, their mentality. Their mentality separated

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Speaker 1: them as players, and it separates them even as coaches

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Speaker 1: right now. And what is interesting, I said that the

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and the Eagles might be the most

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Speaker 1: physical game. Maybe that is in the NFC, but over

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Speaker 1: in the AFC, this definitely is it. The Chargers and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. They're built on the line of scrimmage, on

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Speaker 1: both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 5: In fact, Jim Harbaugh said he sees Mike Brabel's personality

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Speaker 5: as a player in his team. And then someone asked,

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Speaker 5: Jim Harbaugh, does that mean that your team has your

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Speaker 5: personality or you're playing skills? And he said, I hope not.

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Speaker 5: That was Jim Harbawle. So that was a pretty good

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Speaker 5: line there on that one. All right, Texans at the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: The Steelers, you want another w twof what the football

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Speaker 5: stat The Steelers have won twenty three straight home games

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Speaker 5: on Monday Night. Their last home loss on a Monday

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Speaker 5: night game was nineteen ninety one. Once again, you were

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Speaker 5: in Cleveland at that point.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So okay, I was actually still here Paul in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: One, thank you.

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Speaker 5: All right, so the li my detector went off fact

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Speaker 5: check there. What do you think Texans defense against Aaron

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Speaker 5: Rodgers and company? You know, obviously they're gonna get DK

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Speaker 5: Metcalf back. Do you see that one?

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Speaker 1: You know? Full stop right there? That Texas defense, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Houston is the best defense when they're healthy

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Speaker 1: and ready to go. They were the best defense that

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Speaker 1: I saw this season. I know there are other numbers

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Speaker 1: that are out there that would say otherwise. But to me,

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Speaker 1: watching the Texans go out and play when they're healthy

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Speaker 1: and ready to go, that defense I think is lethal.

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Speaker 1: Having said that, I just don't see the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 1: scoring enough points. And I think Paul did. What was

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Speaker 1: their record on Monday Night, Poully? What was it again?

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Speaker 5: The last twenty three straight Monday night home games? They

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Speaker 5: have won.

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Speaker 1: Twenty three straight Monday night home games. They have won

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Speaker 1: twenty three and one ball.

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Speaker 5: All right now, big picture hit, zoom out. I said

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Speaker 5: a month ago, I don't know much, but I know

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Speaker 5: this much. The Super Bowl champion is coming out of

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Speaker 5: the NFC West. The NFC Championship will be all NFC West.

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Speaker 5: Agree or disagree?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what, Paully, you might be right

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Speaker 1: on that.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember you saying that though, I really don't.

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Speaker 1: And all the conversations that we've had, Pollie, are you

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Speaker 1: looking back here with a little you.

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Speaker 5: Know, Oh, you're accusing me of revisionist history?

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Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? I'm just say no, if

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be the case.

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Speaker 5: Cardinals Underground podcast, I was coaching up Darren Irman and

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Speaker 5: Danny Surrex so That's That's what I was saying at

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Speaker 5: the time. So, but the game you're looking most forward

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Speaker 5: to watching once again would be Bears and Packers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated with the element of a third game and

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Speaker 1: the fact that they're one in one right now against

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Speaker 1: each other, play two contested games, and here comes game

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Speaker 1: number three against your division rival at Soldier Field. Oh baby,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't get any better.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why, Rudge. I'm really intrigued, obviously by

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Speaker 5: the NFC West. I want to see the Rams, jackstam Carolina.

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Speaker 5: Seattle has the buye obviously. I think the Niners definitely

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Speaker 5: have a chance at Philadelphia. I just don't trust the Eagles.

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Speaker 5: But I want to see Aaron Rodgers against that Texans defense.

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Speaker 5: I want to see him when he's totally locked in

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Speaker 5: his football. IQ has experienced what he does against the

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Speaker 5: best defense, arguably in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Time for another dark Roope.

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