WEBVTT - Benny in the Ravine

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<v Speaker 1>Ka boom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes

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<v Speaker 1>a week was enough, I think again. He's the last

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<v Speaker 1>remnants of the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness.

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<v Speaker 1>He treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as

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<v Speaker 1>the rich pill poppers in the penthouse, to clearing house

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<v Speaker 1>of hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth

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<v Speaker 1>Hour with Ben Maller starts right now. Shadow boxing. Well

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<v Speaker 1>come man, the beginning of another edition of the Fifth

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<v Speaker 1>Hour with Ben Maller. A heavy weight brew ha ha

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<v Speaker 1>as I shadow box myself, flying solo yet again. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need no sticking sidekick. No no, no, no, no

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<v Speaker 1>anyway coming up on this edition of The Fifth Hour,

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<v Speaker 1>a spinoff of the Ben Maller radio show, only available

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<v Speaker 1>in the podcast format and broadcasting from a secret location,

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<v Speaker 1>a special podcast studio deep in the north Woods. As

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<v Speaker 1>we get you started on a Saturday, we have the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Team, The Green Team living like Brittney Spears and

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<v Speaker 1>showcase what is that all about? You'll find out that

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<v Speaker 1>and a whole lot more. Hold your applause, no need

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<v Speaker 1>to clap, but we'll get the party started right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And we promised the Green Team, so I came close

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<v Speaker 1>to having to turn to fist the cuffs at Chavez Ravina. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've been listening to the radio show all week,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that I was very fortunate enough. I got

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<v Speaker 1>to spend some quality time at one of my five

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<v Speaker 1>favorite places to hang out, a Major League baseball stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, Dodger Stadium, where I've spent much of my

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<v Speaker 1>life watching athletic competition. Now the Dodgers in the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>Braves meeting in the National League Championship Series, and what

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<v Speaker 1>a madhouse that me tell you, this was a madhouse

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<v Speaker 1>this week. And I'll take you back to Game three

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<v Speaker 1>of the analycs one of the highlights for the Dayers

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<v Speaker 1>and I I had snack bar drama. I had snack

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<v Speaker 1>bar drama. So I mentioned this on the radio show.

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<v Speaker 1>But the great thing about the podcast is we have

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of time to dive deep into a story and

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<v Speaker 1>there is a lot to tell. This might seem like

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<v Speaker 1>a simple story guy online at a snack bar to

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<v Speaker 1>get some delicious treats, but it's much more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I will give you the non condensed version of

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. And if you're bored by stories like this,

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<v Speaker 1>then just fast forward, no harm, no foul. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>might need my own business now. I'm waiting online, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were a bunch of people that were consuming massive

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<v Speaker 1>amounts of alcohol Bruskies, and that's what you do at

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<v Speaker 1>a in the event, but not me. I'm working, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm working, Benny, and I got my little press pass on,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm you know, I'll let you know a little

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<v Speaker 1>inside radio. We're friends. Why not. If you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast, you are a higher level in the Mallem militias.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you are in the media and you cover

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<v Speaker 1>one of these playoff games, what Major League Baseball does

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<v Speaker 1>is they give you a food voucher. In this case,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how it is in every city,

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<v Speaker 1>but in Los Angeles they give you a fifteen dollar

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<v Speaker 1>food voucher. So Major League Baseball in the old days,

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<v Speaker 1>they used to supply a full boxed meal. But that

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<v Speaker 1>costs too much money. And the people in charge, the billionaires,

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<v Speaker 1>the aristocrats at Major League Baseball, We're like, oh, what

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<v Speaker 1>are we doing here? Why are we spending all this

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<v Speaker 1>money on apples and turkey sandwiches and bags of chips.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a waste of money. So why don't we just

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<v Speaker 1>hand these these people fifteen dollars and it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>food stamps ticket. Okay, so fifteen dollars, now that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a decent amount of money. At least when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid, fifteen bucks was pretty good. As you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you attend sporting events in any city, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter whether you're in Los Angeles or not. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get very far. It does not get very far. And

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<v Speaker 1>no discount. By the way, everything's marked up. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like they have a special rate, like an insider rate.

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<v Speaker 1>And the one thing that professional sports has mastered more

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<v Speaker 1>than anything else price gouging personified. Right, it is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>You can take a drink which is some syrup and

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<v Speaker 1>some water, maybe a little ice, which is just frozen

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<v Speaker 1>water and some sugar and whatnot, and that costs the

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<v Speaker 1>people that make the drink, you know, maybe ten cents,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty cents, thirty cents, whatever it is, fifty cents you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go high, and we'll charge four bucks for

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<v Speaker 1>that bottle of water, right, bottle of water. You can

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<v Speaker 1>get a whole case of water at Costco for a

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<v Speaker 1>very reasonable amount, but at a ballpark, five bucks ten bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to a little souvenir batting helmet filled with

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<v Speaker 1>garlic fries, that'll set you back like fifteen sixteen bucks

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. So, um, the way this works the

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<v Speaker 1>food stamp let you again behind the curtain, how we

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<v Speaker 1>make the hotdogs. So you are giving a food voucher,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to spend it or lose it. No cash back.

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<v Speaker 1>So if your order comes to eight dollars, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>get the rest of that, and you can't reuse that

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere else. It's one shot, shoot your shot, and that's it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what I have done over the years that I have mastered,

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<v Speaker 1>I look at the menu. I've mastered how to get

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<v Speaker 1>the most I can possibly get without going over. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have scouted the different snack bars at Dodger Stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>and it changes every year because of the cost of

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<v Speaker 1>all this another, prices have gone up over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dodgers seemingly in the playoffs every year. So

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<v Speaker 1>I've had to deal with this for for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I have settled on my order is not one,

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<v Speaker 1>but two soft pretzels and a plastic cup, small plastic

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<v Speaker 1>cup of nacho cheese, not your cheese. Is my cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>So that sets me back a grand total of thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and nineties six cents. I believe with tax is

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<v Speaker 1>how much that costs. So that's as close as I

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<v Speaker 1>have been able to get to the full fifteen dollar

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<v Speaker 1>amount without getting over. One time they charged me for

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<v Speaker 1>two cheese cups and that put me over at sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and said, I said, I only want one. Take

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<v Speaker 1>back your little cheese cup. I don't want that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do love soft pretzels. It's one of my guilty pleasures,

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<v Speaker 1>a well made soft pretzel. And I will tell you

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<v Speaker 1>they do not have great soft pretzels at Dodgers Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't. I've had much better pretzels at in in Boston,

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, Philadelphia, which is the mecca, as our

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<v Speaker 1>guy Fats in Philly tells us, the birthplace of the pretzel,

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<v Speaker 1>the soft pretzel, and we also had the late Philly

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<v Speaker 1>Rob who was a pretzel benefactor as well. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the gold standard. I love those big pretzels, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've gotta be soft. You know the problem I've had,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hit and miss. At Dodger Stadium, the pretzels sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they leave them in those little rotating things and they

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<v Speaker 1>are like rocks, and that sucks and you can't return it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's no returns, so you're it's it's whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Russian Roulette with the pretzels. But I do the

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<v Speaker 1>other presils now, regardless of I get to the point. Please.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm online. I'm minding my peas and cues. BOYD,

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<v Speaker 1>did I get sidetracked? So I'm minding my pas and

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<v Speaker 1>cues and people are ordering alcohol whatever. They're ordering hot dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it, garlic fries, and some drunk dude and

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<v Speaker 1>his buddy start and going on, you know, going off

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<v Speaker 1>on me. They start harassing me. They're all over me

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<v Speaker 1>for not wearing the proper wardrobe that I did not

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<v Speaker 1>have the Dodger gear. And I am surrounded in a

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<v Speaker 1>sea of people in Dodger blue. And there were a

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<v Speaker 1>few Atlanta Brave fans, but not many, not many. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling there were some Braves fans that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't wear their colors because they heard the reputation of

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<v Speaker 1>the parking lots at Dodger stating. So I had a

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<v Speaker 1>green shirt on, I had my newsboy hat, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what I usually wear when I go out to cover

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<v Speaker 1>my receding hairline. So and then and then I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's doing my thing, waiting online to get my soft

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<v Speaker 1>pretzels and my cup of cheese. And this one dude

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<v Speaker 1>was enraged and became engaged with me. Again, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>right there, and this guy is getting on. He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Dodger fan, were your colors? Man? Why didn't

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<v Speaker 1>you wear your colors right? And I'm like, well, I'm just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, waiting for my food. I tried. I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to not respond, but the guy that got right in

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<v Speaker 1>my face, and I'm like, all right, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just want to get and and I didn't say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the media. I'm better than you. But I

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<v Speaker 1>had a media pass and it said media on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact that I didn't really respond to the

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<v Speaker 1>guy and just kind of blew them off that upset

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<v Speaker 1>him more. So. Now this is an escalation situation. So

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<v Speaker 1>now the guy's like, wait a minute, you're wearing green.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a Celtic fan? He asked me if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a Celtic fan. And at this point I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>should I tell him that I've done radio in Boston

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, over the years, off and on, and

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<v Speaker 1>I actually own a Celtics hat, and as a Laker hater,

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<v Speaker 1>I have great pride of the Celtics because the Celtics

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<v Speaker 1>have caused a lot of agony to my friends who

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<v Speaker 1>are Laker fans, not really recently, but over the years historically.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was like, probably not best for me

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<v Speaker 1>to bring that up, So I shouldn't say that rare

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<v Speaker 1>and appropriate you bring that up at Dodger Stadium. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>about the time that this is starting, the skyrocket and

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<v Speaker 1>tensions are being ratcheted up. I was able to squeeze

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<v Speaker 1>to the front of the line and these bozos skidaddled.

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<v Speaker 1>They got a guy on their way and it was

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<v Speaker 1>their lucky day. By the way, let me tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>You might think I'm just a fat, middle aged overnight

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<v Speaker 1>talk your host, but I would have introduced them to

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<v Speaker 1>my little friends. I have an alter ego. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it very much. Do not endorse violence, but

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<v Speaker 1>when needed, you can call me Benny Bloody Knuckles. Benny

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<v Speaker 1>Bloody Knuckles, you can call me that. It's true. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a pretty mellow guy. I like to goof around,

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<v Speaker 1>have a good time. But I build up like a

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<v Speaker 1>volcano and hot molten lava goes flying when I become enraged.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how That's how I wrote. There's some people that

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<v Speaker 1>are mad all the time and just blow offs team

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't do that regularly. I just every

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<v Speaker 1>once in a while. That's just how how it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying there. But as far as

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<v Speaker 1>the Dodger Games, it was great to see my old friends,

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<v Speaker 1>as I always say, And Roberto is there who I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see all the time. I'm in the home studio

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<v Speaker 1>a lot lead a Lap the producer of the morning show.

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<v Speaker 1>He was on hand. I know a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>older crowd that used to when I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day. They be the ushers at Dodgers

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<v Speaker 1>Dad and a few of those people left lifers at

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<v Speaker 1>Dodger Stadium. So I was able to come across some

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<v Speaker 1>of those people and it was a good time, a

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<v Speaker 1>good time and just being at the ballpark and the

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon and that that that that that that that that

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<v Speaker 1>that that that that that that that that that that

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<v Speaker 1>I ran into Tom Looney. Tom Looney, he's the news

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<v Speaker 1>guy now my old partner Louis, we've had Looney on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, and the Looney who gave me the single

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<v Speaker 1>worst piece of financial advice that I have ever gotten

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<v Speaker 1>in my life came from Tom Loony. I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>to go into the story right now. I had saved

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<v Speaker 1>up my money for a long time. I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>the condensed version. I'd saved up my money for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. And I was debating. There was a place

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<v Speaker 1>a condo I was looking at in in downtown l A.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I don't know if this is

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<v Speaker 1>the right spot. It's in the crappy neighborhoods in Lincoln Heights.

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<v Speaker 1>And Looney's like, well, they're gonna fix it up, and

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<v Speaker 1>and I told him, I said, well, I keep reading

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<v Speaker 1>in the business papers that the housing market is going

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<v Speaker 1>to go down. And Looney gave me this big pep

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<v Speaker 1>talk and he's like, no, no, no, no, no no, now,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't worry about that. You know, they're always gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say this kind of thing. If you find a place

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<v Speaker 1>you like, just get it, you know. He was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me it was a way to go. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I purchased a house and a couple of months

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<v Speaker 1>after I purchased the house. Yeah, Call Boom goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the housing market, and it was nice to see Loony.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the first time I have seen Tom Looney

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<v Speaker 1>in person. And we used to work together every weekend

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<v Speaker 1>for years. For seven years, I think we did that

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<v Speaker 1>show on the weekends. I can't believe it lasted that long.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever heard, if you ever heard the show,

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<v Speaker 1>then you would know that show was not long for

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<v Speaker 1>the world. But eventually that yeah, that did happen at

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<v Speaker 1>the end, Eventually that that took place. Anyway, I caught

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<v Speaker 1>up with Loony, hadn't seen him since the COVID thing started.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the same old Looney. Spends way too much time

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<v Speaker 1>in the gym, way too much time in the gym,

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<v Speaker 1>but Tan gets a lot of sun and he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>news radio. If you want to hear I'm Looney on

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<v Speaker 1>the weekends. He is a news guy at k A

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<v Speaker 1>b C. At one point, k ABC, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>news talk station, was the top money making station in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles when I first got into radio. It was

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<v Speaker 1>after k ABC. It had their glory days and k

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<v Speaker 1>f I is the big am talk station and it's

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<v Speaker 1>been that way for years, but k ABC back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day was where everyone went and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>talk station in Los Angeles. Not quite anymore. But Looney

0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:33.760
<v Speaker 1>is doing a doing a good job and it's good

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up. He does a podcast with JT the

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<v Speaker 1>Brick as well, So we were telling some stories there

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<v Speaker 1>about the old days. And every time I see Looney

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<v Speaker 1>at a baseball game, at some point in the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>it has happened. One of the time, the four run

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<v Speaker 1>home run will come up. So this goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>when we were doing The Blitz, and The Blitz was

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<v Speaker 1>a football show, but it was pretty popular and we

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<v Speaker 1>had a following for a Sunday afternoon show, and so

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<v Speaker 1>management at the time was very supportive of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>They eventually grew to hated. Uh well, management changed. The

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<v Speaker 1>new management hated it, but the original management loved it,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we did the show for a while on

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<v Speaker 1>during football and they're like, well, the show is good,

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<v Speaker 1>why didn't do baseball? So like, all right, we'll do baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>But baseball is a lot different than football. There's football

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty easy right Sunday, there's ebbs and flows kind

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<v Speaker 1>of updated football game. Baseball is a little harder because

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<v Speaker 1>their games are longer and there's more moving parts. And

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<v Speaker 1>so anyway, the Red Sox, I still remember it was

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<v Speaker 1>a game at Finway, Red Sox or Plan whoever, doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Red Sox had a big offensive day and

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<v Speaker 1>they had a guy named Jared salt Lemachia, who I

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<v Speaker 1>believe still has the record for the longest surname in

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<v Speaker 1>Big League history, at least he did at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>He did at the time. So anyway, you know, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>So random Sunday in the summertime, and we're updating the scores,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Red Sox had a big day, going offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jared Saltamakia hits a Grand Slam. Get out the

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<v Speaker 1>rye bread and the mustard, Grandma, it's Grand Salami time.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got all excited. We got all these monitors,

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<v Speaker 1>the games are on it. Anytime something happens, we're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we Grand Slam. Except Tom Looney the first person in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of radio saying the following words, Jared salta

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<v Speaker 1>Lomakia just hit a four run home run, which wall

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<v Speaker 1>technically true, Well technically true, is not the proper etiquette,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, It's yeah, that was wrong, I mean and Uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta be better than that, right. I know your

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<v Speaker 1>name is Looney, and when you're loony, can you have

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<v Speaker 1>a little more freedom there? But that was not proper.

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<v Speaker 1>So anytime after that someone would hit a grand slam,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the professional term that is used. But anytime

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<v Speaker 1>someone would do that after either on the air or

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<v Speaker 1>off the air, there's a four run home run right there?

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<v Speaker 1>Four run home run up? All right, all right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>calm down, I'll move on. So living like Brittany Spears,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this all about? Life of Mallard Tales of Woe,

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<v Speaker 1>Episode four. Oops, I did it again. I've noticed, and

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<v Speaker 1>several of you have pointed out via email that many

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<v Speaker 1>of my stories revolve around Costco. And if Costco we're

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<v Speaker 1>to go out of business, or if I were to

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<v Speaker 1>stop going to Costco, I wouldn't have any stories. So

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<v Speaker 1>this story revolves around a couple of things. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>had to get gas. I religiously go to Costco. I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to get there early in the morning the gas

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't have to wait online. I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>waiting online for gas. There's always a long line at Costco.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you go in the morning or when it closes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no line, So I got my gas. I actually

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<v Speaker 1>happened to go in the evening time, so I did

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<v Speaker 1>wait online a little bit, and then I had to

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<v Speaker 1>stop by the main store, the big box store, and

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<v Speaker 1>you had to get water some snacks. I parked the car. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just bear with me on this. So I parked the

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<v Speaker 1>car and I walk into the front of the store

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<v Speaker 1>as you would normally do right this normal night, by myself.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife was at home. She's still unpacking. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be unpacking things still the way things are going. So

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<v Speaker 1>my wife's doing her thing, and I was She's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>can you run some errands? So I'm like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll run some errands. Why not make myself useful. So

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<v Speaker 1>I got the gas. I had to buy some stuff

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<v Speaker 1>at Costmas. She text me shopping list. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty normal in a marriage relationship. Somebody sends you a

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<v Speaker 1>shopping list. So I'm strolling in and I grab my

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<v Speaker 1>Costco credit card and I hold it up to the

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<v Speaker 1>young lady at the front there, and as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's my ticket to enter, It's my golden ticket. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm checking off things on my list right I'm checking off,

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<v Speaker 1>and my shopping cart is almost all full of what

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<v Speaker 1>I needed. And as I am walking by the meat section,

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<v Speaker 1>I still remember where I was. I was looking for

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<v Speaker 1>thin cut ribbi because thin cut ribby is the steak

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<v Speaker 1>that is used in Philly cheesesteak, and you can buy

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<v Speaker 1>it at Costco. It's not cheap. The Costco near where

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<v Speaker 1>I live in the north Woods. You can buy this

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes amazing Philly cheesesteak. Uh. And it's just

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful and everything so thin cut and just melts in

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<v Speaker 1>your mouth. It's great. I highly recommended. So then I

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<v Speaker 1>had this ah ha moment and it wasn't about the

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<v Speaker 1>ribbi sneake, and I'm I'm like, something's not right here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, well, what the hell is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what what is it? And so I I'm holding

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<v Speaker 1>my phone, so obviously is my phone missing? Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no problem with my phone. So I'm like, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what else is going on here? So then I reached

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<v Speaker 1>for the keys. I do an inventory here and I

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<v Speaker 1>see the keys are there, so there's nothing going on

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<v Speaker 1>with the keys, so everything's good. And then I reached

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<v Speaker 1>down from my wallet and red light starts, flashing red

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<v Speaker 1>light starts. So I had checked on the phone, I

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<v Speaker 1>had check on the keys. No wallet, So I put

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<v Speaker 1>my hand in my pocket, and for some reason, I

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<v Speaker 1>had my Costco credit card that I had used to

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<v Speaker 1>get in the store. So now I'm trying to retrace

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<v Speaker 1>my steps. I'm thinking, well, I must have dropped my

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<v Speaker 1>wallet somewhere in the store. Originally my original thought was,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know what might have happened is when I

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<v Speaker 1>got gas, I just left the wallet on the passenger

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<v Speaker 1>seat in the mallarmobile, and then I just grabbed the

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<v Speaker 1>credit card and walked in. For some reason, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I had left it in the front seat of the car.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I did was I left a cart full

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<v Speaker 1>of food and different things off to the side of

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<v Speaker 1>Costco and I go warp speed. I went warp speed.

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<v Speaker 1>I ski dattled to the car. I retraced my steps.

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<v Speaker 1>I have visions of someone breaking into the car seeing

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<v Speaker 1>my my wallet. I have a Castanza wallet, seeing my

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<v Speaker 1>wallet there and saying to ching to change change. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing the hustle. I'm doing the hustle. I get

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<v Speaker 1>out of the store, I go through the parking lot,

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<v Speaker 1>I get to my car, and then there's the moment

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<v Speaker 1>of truth and I slowly walk up to the car

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<v Speaker 1>and I look at the passenger seat through the window.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a nighttime situation so that it can't see everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and I peek around the side there and I see

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<v Speaker 1>right there nothing. I see absolutely nothing, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, what the heck am I That had

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<v Speaker 1>to and it had to it had to be there,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, it wasn't. It wasn't there. So I'm like, okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then I opened the door. I thought, well, maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>fell out in the area when I got out of

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<v Speaker 1>the car and I looked down and I see nothing again.

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<v Speaker 1>So now i'mnna starting I start feeling around here. I

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<v Speaker 1>started feeling around and trying to figure out what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>and okay, maybe time to the seat. Nothing. So now

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<v Speaker 1>at this point I have to do the walk of

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<v Speaker 1>shame back to Costco. Maybe I dropped it in the

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<v Speaker 1>store somewhere. So again I'm retracing my steps and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking around. My head is down. I'm depressed. I go

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<v Speaker 1>through the parking lot, I get to the door. I

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<v Speaker 1>walked through the door and I'm looking around and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>where is it? Where is my wallet? Where is the

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Castanza wallet? I need the wallet? Where is the wallet?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm looking around, looking around, and this the lady

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<v Speaker 1>at the door there and the nice woman. She sees

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<v Speaker 1>me in a panic, and she says, hey, did you

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<v Speaker 1>lose something? And at that point I said, oops, I

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<v Speaker 1>did it again, just like my hero Brittney spears, just like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. And sure enough, my wallet had fallen out

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<v Speaker 1>of my pocket at the entrance of Costco. In the

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<v Speaker 1>transition when I put the credit card back in my

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<v Speaker 1>pocket and it was not in the wallet. The wallet

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<v Speaker 1>fell out, the credit card stage in the pocket, and

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<v Speaker 1>the lady there, very nice woman, she kept the wallet

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<v Speaker 1>in in the little booth thing that she had at

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<v Speaker 1>the front of Costco. So this is now the second time,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're keeping score at home, that I've told a

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 1>similar story. The second time in the last calendar year

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<v Speaker 1>that this has happened. Now both times I had a

0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:22.359
<v Speaker 1>guardian angel. Last time was at a different grocery store,

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<v Speaker 1>this time at Costco, and my wallet got back to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet again I tried to offer a reward for

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<v Speaker 1>finding my wallet. This was very important to me. Right

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<v Speaker 1>when you want to pay in the acid is lose

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 1>your wallet and when you find your wallet, it's a

0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 1>big deal. And yet again the woman said, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much, I can't accept your money. Costco will not

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<v Speaker 1>allow me to accept your money. And I said, well, now,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know no one's paying attention, they won't know

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<v Speaker 1>about I won't tell anybody. And she says, no, I

0:24:57.320 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 1>can't do that. We're not allowed company policy. So I

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 1>tell my wife the story. My wife then says that

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<v Speaker 1>I should now offer more money. She thinks that's my move.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm gonna offer more money because I know I've

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<v Speaker 1>now had this happen twice where I've lost my wallet,

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<v Speaker 1>so she knows I'll lose it again. And she said,

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<v Speaker 1>next time this happens, you're gonna offer more money because

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<v Speaker 1>you know they can't accept the money. I said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna do that, and I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>I told her. I said, I'm not doing that because,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing my luck, it's going to turn. I can't continue

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:34.440
<v Speaker 1>to have this kind of good fortune. At some point,

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<v Speaker 1>the guardian angel is gonna take a nap, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I said no, because Murphy's Law says that the person

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<v Speaker 1>I offer a thousand dollars to Will say, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'll take the money and can you send

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<v Speaker 1>me some duffel bags of cash? Can you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>And so so you know, I'm not increasing the dollar amount.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not going to happen. Not going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Moving on now to the Showcase Showdown. If

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to these podcasts during the weekend, boy, do

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 1>we think that's number one? Tele a friend, tell a

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 1>friend you know. On Friday, we typically have someone on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast who we like. We had a close friend

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<v Speaker 1>in the radio business on Friday this Friday, I hope

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:31.400
<v Speaker 1>you heard that. And today on Saturday is typically tales

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:35.880
<v Speaker 1>from my life, like losing my wallet at Costco, having

0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:37.479
<v Speaker 1>a guy trying to get into a fight with me

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 1>because I wasn't wearing a Dodger jersey at a game

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and you're not allowed to do that. I didn't want

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>to go through all that, you know in the media,

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>as I said, you you gotta dress the part. No

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 1>cheering in the press box, blah blah blah blah. So

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I had a green shirt on. Guy got upset thought

0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I was a Celtic fan, which the Clippers on my team,

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>but the Celtics. As I said, the Laker rivalry over

0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 1>the years and being a Laker hater, I I do

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>have a a bit of I don't want to say

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:09.640
<v Speaker 1>green envy, but there's some some joy in there. But

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the Sunday Podcast, which is appropbably enough, on Sunday, we

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:17.240
<v Speaker 1>typically just do mail. We answer your questions, and that

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 1>will be no different. We'll have the mail bag with

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 1>your questions tomorrow. But I wanted to highlight one email

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>in particular because I want to give it more time

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>than we have on the mail bag. The mailbags typically

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.439
<v Speaker 1>rat a tat tat we go through the mail we

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 1>don't have a lot of time. So in this debut,

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>the maiden voyage of the showcase portion of the Saturday Podcast,

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 1>we'll see if we do this more often, if we

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 1>get really good email that really you know, you know,

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:48.679
<v Speaker 1>I see really a lot but needs to stand out,

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:53.879
<v Speaker 1>then we'll keep it. And if the reaction to this

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:58.360
<v Speaker 1>is just terrible, and if that's going on, I hear

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 1>that noise and I'll be like, all right, there's a

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>sign I better stop doing this. But this email this

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>week comes from Hajji. He says that is his Silent

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Militia name, Hajji writes, and he says, I love the

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Ben Maller Show and I have listened to it as

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:22.400
<v Speaker 1>a podcast every day since I discovered it three years ago.

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>How great is that? And he says, here's the part

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:32.120
<v Speaker 1>that should make me part of the Silent Mallard Militia. Now,

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Haji says, when I am not listening to your most

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>recent show, I go back to listen to old episodes

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that I haven't heard before. He says, I'm currently listening

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 1>and working my way through seventeen. I can't believe k

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 1>D's leaving the Warriors. Wow, let me stop right there.

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:58.120
<v Speaker 1>He hit the pause button. So Hagi, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. I appreciate you listening to the show more

0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>than you know. And you are the first listener I

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>can remember. And maybe it's happened in the past and

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember it. I've blocked it out, but you

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>are the first person I can recall going back and

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 1>listening to dated material. In sports radio, what we do

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>is time sensitive. There is an expiration date on it.

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>It does not last. It's not evergreen. If it was evergreen,

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>music is evergreen. You make a song in your garage

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>when you're eighteen years old. They're seventeen years old. You're

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>still playing that song when you're fifty or sixty or

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>seventy or eighty. Like the Rolling Stones and the Beatles

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>and the ones that made it, you're still making it.

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Sports radio disposable form of entertainment. Whatever the story of

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the day is. We talk about and then we move

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:58.479
<v Speaker 1>on and for you to go back and listen. And

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised those are still aailable, those old podcasts are

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>still available. I wonder how far back the library of

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>audio content is. Because I've been at this company. You

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 1>could go back and hear early shows that I did

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>from the early two thousands. I'm pretty confident those do

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>not exist anymore. Those have been erased from the history books.

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>But seventeen that's that's a while ago. Now, all right,

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 1>that's a while ago. All right. Anyway, says my fifth

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>hour question. This is from listener Hadji in the showcase,

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the email showcase portion of the Saturday podcasts. So he says,

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering if you could talk about the behind

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>the scenes business of sports talk radio on one of

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 1>your podcasts. Well, congratulations, Hodging. This is the podcast. He says,

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>for example, who decides whether a radio show has a

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>single host or multiple host such as your show versus

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Jason Smith and Mike Harmon. Do the bosses pair the

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 1>host up or do the host apply together to do

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>a show? Let me hit the pause button again. So

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>the way this works, we all have bosses. I'm no different.

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of red tape at big radio stations

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>where are syndicated networks, so there's a lot of management.

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 1>There are two main bosses that I deal with, but

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 1>there's layers below that that I don't have to deal with.

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>So the way we do business not to let all

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>the secrets out, but it's pretty standard. I've worked at

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>different radio stations, is pretty much the same. The program

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>director is the one that decides which shows are on

0:31:38.400 --> 0:31:40.719
<v Speaker 1>the radio and whether or not that show is a

0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>one man show or two man show, And it really

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>is preference. Some program directors like the two man show,

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>some like the one man show. It just depends on it.

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>And I will tell you that the business is pretty

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>much shifted to two people at a time. I am

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>one of the few guys that just as a solo act.

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>There's a few, but you know, you look at our

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>our station, our network, Fox, Colin Cowards a one man act,

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 1>but he's got you know, he's got a lot of

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>help on that. Dan Patrick technically a one man show,

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>but the dan Ets so not a one man show.

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Morning show. Our morning show has a lot of a

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, right. Jonas has got a couple of

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>guys with him that former NFL players and in LaVar

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Arrington and Quinn. So they do that and then you

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>go through the rest of the day and you've got

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Rob Parker, know what, Gottlie does a solo show, but

0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>he has a lot of people around him, uh that

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 1>help out. And so so it's it's each time slot

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 1>is its own entity. And there are radio shows that

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>work together and change stations together. It is much more

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>difficult to do that. It's much more difficult. I gave

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I was not I did give the US. I was

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>given some great advice from Rick D's. You might not

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 1>know who Ricky's is. He was a big fin deal

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>in the radio business. When I got started. Ricky's had

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the number one morning show at Kiss FM one or

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>two point seven Kiss FM, The D's sleeves in the morning.

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Rick dominated morning drive radio and made a fortune. He

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 1>had a syndicated television show. He did the weekly Top

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>forty Countdown. He was a big deal in the radio business.

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>And Rick was the one of the nicest people I've

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>ever met. And I was a young guy, had worked

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>in San Diego. I got transferred to the l A station.

0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 1>They were just starting Kiss Am, which became Extra Sports

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 1>eleven fifty which is now the Patriot, and the sports

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>station moved over to a M five seventy in the

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 1>l A market. Anyway, I was doing the midday show.

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Believe it or not, I was Midday Mallard. The Ben

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 1>and Dave show was on midday's and so anyway DS

0:33:58.240 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>would come in. He was recording his Top forty show

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>or other content for the morning show, and he would

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>come in and just drop by and smile and say

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 1>hello and ask how we were doing. And occasionally he

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 1>would drop some wisdom. And there was one point we

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>were not sure whether our show would make it or not,

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>and I asked Rick these some career advice. And Rick

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>knew that it was a two man operation, and he said,

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 1>he said, listen, I'm sure you like working with with Dave.

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Who you're with this is a guy named Dave Smith.

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.839
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure Dave you like working with Ben. But

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>my experience, and this is a guy at the very

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 1>top at the time in the radio business, was that

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.319
<v Speaker 1>if you're looking for a job, he said, it's better

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.439
<v Speaker 1>flying solo, because it's hard enough to get one job

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.359
<v Speaker 1>in radio, but to get a program director to hire

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:50.439
<v Speaker 1>two people, good luck, good luck on that. Uh And

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 1>and how back to the email, he says, how do

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>they decide the time slot for a show? Well, again,

0:34:56.680 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a pecking order. It's the program director along with

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 1>a group of people called consultants, and they all get

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>together and I don't know what they do, but they

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 1>throw darts and they figure out who goes where. It's

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>a big puzzle board. It's putting jigsaw puzzle pieces onto

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.240
<v Speaker 1>a puzzle and putting them all together and making it work.

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 1>And he also says, does the time slot come first

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:26.319
<v Speaker 1>and then they pick a show or do they pick

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 1>the show first and then decide the time slot. Yeah,

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:31.960
<v Speaker 1>So the way this works is it's the show that

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>fits the time slot. It's not the other way around.

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>They don't just hire talk shows and then say they

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>go in the time slot. It's what show is appropriate

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 1>for the time slot, and it's tilted. For example, the

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 1>way the radio business works, you matter if you're on

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>six am to six pm. That's when most people listen

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>to the radio, six am to six pm. That includes

0:35:56.640 --> 0:36:04.399
<v Speaker 1>morning drive, midday, afternoon drive. Any time after that, you

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>are marginalized. You're not that important to people in radio.

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>You're just not. And I love my job, and I

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of great things about the job. I

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>don't have too much traffic. Of course, now I'm doing

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the show from home, so I have no traffic most

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>of the time unless the rare and appropriate time that

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I come in to the studio, so I've got the

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>radio show from home. I don't deal with the bosses

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>very much because when they're at work, I'm sleeping, so

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to deal with that. But financially, they

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>don't pay the overnight guy as much as the daytime people.

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:42.720
<v Speaker 1>And so there is a give and take with anything

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>in life, within any of your life. Also, Haji says,

0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:50.200
<v Speaker 1>how do they decide to replace the show when the

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:55.320
<v Speaker 1>host leaves like Clay Travis without kick and two pros

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:58.839
<v Speaker 1>and a cup of Joe. So again, it's it is

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 1>a collaborative effort. It is decided by the programming people

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>at our company. At Fox Sports Radio, Don Martin and

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Scott Shapiro are the top two guys, and then they

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.360
<v Speaker 1>have people around them. They have bosses themselves they have

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 1>to deal with They have a bunch of red tape

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 1>with consultants and everyone's chiming in. They have to worry

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:22.400
<v Speaker 1>about what show can they sell, what will make the

0:37:22.440 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 1>most money for the company. I mean, how much money

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 1>is the show going to cost. There's a lot of

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 1>moving parts, a lot of spinning plates with that, as

0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you might imagine, any job has these type of things.

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:40.879
<v Speaker 1>He also says, are there auditions behind the scene. Yes, absolutely,

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.720
<v Speaker 1>there are people that, do you know, send in tapes

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:47.720
<v Speaker 1>not tapes anymore, it's digital stuff. And there are also

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 1>some dry runs where they'll put so and so in

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 1>a studio with somebody else who they think will sound good,

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 1>and they will throw them together and see if the

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>show clicks, see if there's some kind of audio match,

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and decide at that point, and it is the boss's

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:08.280
<v Speaker 1>decision there. He says, is there a pecking order set

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:14.800
<v Speaker 1>ahead of time? Next host up? Not always? Not always.

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I was the bride's maid. For many years, I did

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>weekend overnights. I was next in line for a day

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 1>part and it did not happen for nine years. Over

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>nine years, I did weekend overnights before I finally got

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.919
<v Speaker 1>the weekday show. And then I got whacked from that

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 1>job after a year and then brought back six months

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 1>in twenty six days later. And Hog also says, but

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you're going in depth here on this email. He says,

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:48.759
<v Speaker 1>how do radio contracts work, Well, it really depends on

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>the host, It depends on the station, the format. So

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:58.839
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of variables with the radio contract. Typically

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 1>they are anywhere from one to three year contracts. There's

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>usually a lot of offset language in the contracts. I

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 1>can't give that information out because I'd be violating my contract.

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>But with any contract, there's a lot of fine print

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>at the bottom that typically protects the employee er and

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>not the employee as much. That's just how most businesses work,

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 1>and so that's that's not a surprise. He also says,

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:28.400
<v Speaker 1>how long are they as I said, one to three years?

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>And how do they handle time off? Do you get

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 1>paid time off? He says, wow, look at this, do

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>they have buyouts in other ways to end them early.

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>And again it depends on the contract. I do get

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<v Speaker 1>paid time off. I do not take most of my

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<v Speaker 1>time off. I don't do that. And the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that two reasons. I'm a workaholic. That's one reason.

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<v Speaker 1>The second reason. The key to to audience retention in

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<v Speaker 1>radio is being there and my experience from being in

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<v Speaker 1>the business. And I tell people who ask me this

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<v Speaker 1>young broadcasters who are the next generation, I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that, but I tell people who are interested

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<v Speaker 1>in the business, I say, the key to this is

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<v Speaker 1>being like a sofa. You have to be the sofa.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what do I mean by that? Let me explain.

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<v Speaker 1>So the sofa is there when you need it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also there when you don't need it. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>go into a room and you want to sit on

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<v Speaker 1>the sofa and there's no sofa there, and maybe there's

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<v Speaker 1>a shitty chair, you're not gonna like that. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way radio is. Radio and the person If you

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<v Speaker 1>like a show, and and that's a big thing that

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<v Speaker 1>gets somebody to like you, you know how hard that is.

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<v Speaker 1>You have so many freaking options to listen to and

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to my fat ass. And so the way

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<v Speaker 1>I look at this, you gotta be there. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be the sofa. You might not listen to me. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you only work a couple of days a week, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm there every night. I got the weekend podcast. But

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta be there when you need me. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>way I look at that. And maybe I'm wrong and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dumb and all that. My wife tells me I

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<v Speaker 1>should take take a hell of a lot more time off,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do have some family events that I will

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<v Speaker 1>be taking some time off for, but I try to

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<v Speaker 1>make it rare and appropriate. Again, one of a praise

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<v Speaker 1>the phrases I use a lot. But it's very important

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<v Speaker 1>to be there. And that's how you keep an audience,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how you keep people engaged and you keep

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<v Speaker 1>people interested. And if you're not there, there's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>line Jim Rome had and Jim's a legend in the business.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not mocking Jim, but Jim is legendary for

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<v Speaker 1>taking a lot of vacation time as well. And he

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<v Speaker 1>used to say, well, I take a lot of vacation

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<v Speaker 1>because I get a lot of vacation and that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I get a lot of vacation to considering the backbreaking

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<v Speaker 1>work of having to talk for a living, but it

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<v Speaker 1>feels more are important to be there. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>like taking time off over the holidays. I typically save.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to take a certain number of days every year,

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<v Speaker 1>so I typically save that till the week between Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>and New Year's and that's that's standard when I take

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<v Speaker 1>my time up. Anyway, we've gone very very long here,

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<v Speaker 1>very long, bad job by me, So I will now,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I calm down, I will do that right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope you've enjoyed this. And uh wow, nice,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand. And nobody called up. Not a single person

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<v Speaker 1>called up and said that, so we didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with that at all. Have a wonderful rest of

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<v Speaker 1>your Saturday. If you're interested in cameo, I am on

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<v Speaker 1>cameo dot com. Did another cameo this week. Had a

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<v Speaker 1>great time with that. And if you'd like to have

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<v Speaker 1>a personalized message for you, a Mallard monologue dedicated to you,

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<v Speaker 1>then please contact me on cameo. It's not free, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that much. There's people charging a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>than me. Most people are charging more than me, but

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<v Speaker 1>check it out and we'd love to do it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't forget the mail bag on Sundays Sunday Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll catch you next time. Aloha,