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Speaker 1: I should now offer more money. She thinks that's my move.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna offer more money because I know I've

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Speaker 1: now had this happen twice where I've lost my wallet,

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Speaker 1: so she knows I'll lose it again. And she said,

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Speaker 1: next time this happens, you're gonna offer more money because

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Speaker 1: you know they can't accept the money. I said, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that, and I'll tell you what

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Speaker 1: I told her. I said, I'm not doing that because,

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Speaker 1: knowing my luck, it's going to turn. I can't continue

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Speaker 1: to have this kind of good fortune. At some point,

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Speaker 1: the guardian angel is gonna take a nap, and so

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Speaker 1: I said no, because Murphy's Law says that the person

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Speaker 1: I offer a thousand dollars to Will say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'll take the money and can you send

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Speaker 1: me some duffel bags of cash? Can you do that?

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Speaker 1: And so so you know, I'm not increasing the dollar amount.

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Speaker 1: That is not going to happen. Not going to happen,

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Speaker 1: all right, Moving on now to the Showcase Showdown. If

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Speaker 1: you listen to these podcasts during the weekend, boy, do

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Speaker 1: we think that's number one? Tele a friend, tell a

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Speaker 1: friend you know. On Friday, we typically have someone on

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Speaker 1: the podcast who we like. We had a close friend

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Speaker 1: in the radio business on Friday this Friday, I hope

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Speaker 1: you heard that. And today on Saturday is typically tales

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Speaker 1: from my life, like losing my wallet at Costco, having

447
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Speaker 1: a guy trying to get into a fight with me

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Speaker 1: because I wasn't wearing a Dodger jersey at a game

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Speaker 1: and you're not allowed to do that. I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to go through all that, you know in the media,

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Speaker 1: as I said, you you gotta dress the part. No

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Speaker 1: cheering in the press box, blah blah blah blah. So

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Speaker 1: I had a green shirt on. Guy got upset thought

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Speaker 1: I was a Celtic fan, which the Clippers on my team,

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Speaker 1: but the Celtics. As I said, the Laker rivalry over

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Speaker 1: the years and being a Laker hater, I I do

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Speaker 1: have a a bit of I don't want to say

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Speaker 1: green envy, but there's some some joy in there. But

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Speaker 1: the Sunday Podcast, which is appropbably enough, on Sunday, we

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Speaker 1: typically just do mail. We answer your questions, and that

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Speaker 1: will be no different. We'll have the mail bag with

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Speaker 1: your questions tomorrow. But I wanted to highlight one email

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Speaker 1: in particular because I want to give it more time

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Speaker 1: than we have on the mail bag. The mailbags typically

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Speaker 1: rat a tat tat we go through the mail we

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Speaker 1: don't have a lot of time. So in this debut,

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Speaker 1: the maiden voyage of the showcase portion of the Saturday Podcast,

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Speaker 1: we'll see if we do this more often, if we

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Speaker 1: get really good email that really you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: I see really a lot but needs to stand out,

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Speaker 1: then we'll keep it. And if the reaction to this

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Speaker 1: is just terrible, and if that's going on, I hear

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Speaker 1: that noise and I'll be like, all right, there's a

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Speaker 1: sign I better stop doing this. But this email this

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Speaker 1: week comes from Hajji. He says that is his Silent

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Speaker 1: Militia name, Hajji writes, and he says, I love the

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Speaker 1: Ben Maller Show and I have listened to it as

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Speaker 1: a podcast every day since I discovered it three years ago.

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Speaker 1: How great is that? And he says, here's the part

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Speaker 1: that should make me part of the Silent Mallard Militia. Now,

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Speaker 1: Haji says, when I am not listening to your most

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Speaker 1: recent show, I go back to listen to old episodes

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Speaker 1: that I haven't heard before. He says, I'm currently listening

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Speaker 1: and working my way through seventeen. I can't believe k

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Speaker 1: D's leaving the Warriors. Wow, let me stop right there.

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Speaker 1: He hit the pause button. So Hagi, first of all,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate you listening to the show more

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Speaker 1: than you know. And you are the first listener I

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Speaker 1: can remember. And maybe it's happened in the past and

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Speaker 1: I don't remember it. I've blocked it out, but you

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Speaker 1: are the first person I can recall going back and

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Speaker 1: listening to dated material. In sports radio, what we do

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00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: is time sensitive. There is an expiration date on it.

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Speaker 1: It does not last. It's not evergreen. If it was evergreen,

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00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: music is evergreen. You make a song in your garage

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Speaker 1: when you're eighteen years old. They're seventeen years old. You're

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Speaker 1: still playing that song when you're fifty or sixty or

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Speaker 1: seventy or eighty. Like the Rolling Stones and the Beatles

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00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: and the ones that made it, you're still making it.

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Speaker 1: Sports radio disposable form of entertainment. Whatever the story of

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Speaker 1: the day is. We talk about and then we move

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Speaker 1: on and for you to go back and listen. And

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised those are still aailable, those old podcasts are

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Speaker 1: still available. I wonder how far back the library of

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Speaker 1: audio content is. Because I've been at this company. You

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Speaker 1: could go back and hear early shows that I did

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Speaker 1: from the early two thousands. I'm pretty confident those do

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Speaker 1: not exist anymore. Those have been erased from the history books.

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Speaker 1: But seventeen that's that's a while ago. Now, all right,

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Speaker 1: that's a while ago. All right. Anyway, says my fifth

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Speaker 1: hour question. This is from listener Hadji in the showcase,

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Speaker 1: the email showcase portion of the Saturday podcasts. So he says,

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Speaker 1: I was wondering if you could talk about the behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes business of sports talk radio on one of

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Speaker 1: your podcasts. Well, congratulations, Hodging. This is the podcast. He says,

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Speaker 1: for example, who decides whether a radio show has a

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Speaker 1: single host or multiple host such as your show versus

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith and Mike Harmon. Do the bosses pair the

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Speaker 1: host up or do the host apply together to do

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Speaker 1: a show? Let me hit the pause button again. So

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Speaker 1: the way this works, we all have bosses. I'm no different.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of red tape at big radio stations

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Speaker 1: where are syndicated networks, so there's a lot of management.

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Speaker 1: There are two main bosses that I deal with, but

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Speaker 1: there's layers below that that I don't have to deal with.

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Speaker 1: So the way we do business not to let all

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Speaker 1: the secrets out, but it's pretty standard. I've worked at

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Speaker 1: different radio stations, is pretty much the same. The program

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Speaker 1: director is the one that decides which shows are on

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Speaker 1: the radio and whether or not that show is a

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Speaker 1: one man show or two man show, And it really

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Speaker 1: is preference. Some program directors like the two man show,

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Speaker 1: some like the one man show. It just depends on it.

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Speaker 1: And I will tell you that the business is pretty

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Speaker 1: much shifted to two people at a time. I am

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Speaker 1: one of the few guys that just as a solo act.

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Speaker 1: There's a few, but you know, you look at our

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Speaker 1: our station, our network, Fox, Colin Cowards a one man act,

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Speaker 1: but he's got you know, he's got a lot of

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Speaker 1: help on that. Dan Patrick technically a one man show,

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Speaker 1: but the dan Ets so not a one man show.

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Speaker 1: Morning show. Our morning show has a lot of a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, right. Jonas has got a couple of

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Speaker 1: guys with him that former NFL players and in LaVar

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Speaker 1: Arrington and Quinn. So they do that and then you

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Speaker 1: go through the rest of the day and you've got

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Speaker 1: Rob Parker, know what, Gottlie does a solo show, but

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Speaker 1: he has a lot of people around him, uh that

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Speaker 1: help out. And so so it's it's each time slot

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Speaker 1: is its own entity. And there are radio shows that

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Speaker 1: work together and change stations together. It is much more

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Speaker 1: difficult to do that. It's much more difficult. I gave

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Speaker 1: I was not I did give the US. I was

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Speaker 1: given some great advice from Rick D's. You might not

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Speaker 1: know who Ricky's is. He was a big fin deal

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Speaker 1: in the radio business. When I got started. Ricky's had

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Speaker 1: the number one morning show at Kiss FM one or

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Speaker 1: two point seven Kiss FM, The D's sleeves in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Rick dominated morning drive radio and made a fortune. He

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Speaker 1: had a syndicated television show. He did the weekly Top

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Speaker 1: forty Countdown. He was a big deal in the radio business.

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Speaker 1: And Rick was the one of the nicest people I've

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Speaker 1: ever met. And I was a young guy, had worked

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Speaker 1: in San Diego. I got transferred to the l A station.

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Speaker 1: They were just starting Kiss Am, which became Extra Sports

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Speaker 1: eleven fifty which is now the Patriot, and the sports

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Speaker 1: station moved over to a M five seventy in the

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Speaker 1: l A market. Anyway, I was doing the midday show.

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Speaker 1: Believe it or not, I was Midday Mallard. The Ben

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Speaker 1: and Dave show was on midday's and so anyway DS

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Speaker 1: would come in. He was recording his Top forty show

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Speaker 1: or other content for the morning show, and he would

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Speaker 1: come in and just drop by and smile and say

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Speaker 1: hello and ask how we were doing. And occasionally he

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Speaker 1: would drop some wisdom. And there was one point we

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Speaker 1: were not sure whether our show would make it or not,

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Speaker 1: and I asked Rick these some career advice. And Rick

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Speaker 1: knew that it was a two man operation, and he said,

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Speaker 1: he said, listen, I'm sure you like working with with Dave.

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Speaker 1: Who you're with this is a guy named Dave Smith.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure Dave you like working with Ben. But

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Speaker 1: my experience, and this is a guy at the very

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Speaker 1: top at the time in the radio business, was that

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Speaker 1: if you're looking for a job, he said, it's better

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Speaker 1: flying solo, because it's hard enough to get one job

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Speaker 1: in radio, but to get a program director to hire

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Speaker 1: two people, good luck, good luck on that. Uh And

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Speaker 1: and how back to the email, he says, how do

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Speaker 1: they decide the time slot for a show? Well, again,

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Speaker 1: there's a pecking order. It's the program director along with

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Speaker 1: a group of people called consultants, and they all get

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Speaker 1: together and I don't know what they do, but they

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00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: throw darts and they figure out who goes where. It's

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Speaker 1: a big puzzle board. It's putting jigsaw puzzle pieces onto

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Speaker 1: a puzzle and putting them all together and making it work.

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Speaker 1: And he also says, does the time slot come first

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Speaker 1: and then they pick a show or do they pick

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Speaker 1: the show first and then decide the time slot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So the way this works is it's the show that

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Speaker 1: fits the time slot. It's not the other way around.

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Speaker 1: They don't just hire talk shows and then say they

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Speaker 1: go in the time slot. It's what show is appropriate

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Speaker 1: for the time slot, and it's tilted. For example, the

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Speaker 1: way the radio business works, you matter if you're on

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Speaker 1: six am to six pm. That's when most people listen

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Speaker 1: to the radio, six am to six pm. That includes

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Speaker 1: morning drive, midday, afternoon drive. Any time after that, you

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00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: are marginalized. You're not that important to people in radio.

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Speaker 1: You're just not. And I love my job, and I

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Speaker 1: have a lot of great things about the job. I

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Speaker 1: don't have too much traffic. Of course, now I'm doing

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Speaker 1: the show from home, so I have no traffic most

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Speaker 1: of the time unless the rare and appropriate time that

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Speaker 1: I come in to the studio, so I've got the

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Speaker 1: radio show from home. I don't deal with the bosses

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Speaker 1: very much because when they're at work, I'm sleeping, so

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Speaker 1: I don't have to deal with that. But financially, they

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Speaker 1: don't pay the overnight guy as much as the daytime people.

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Speaker 1: And so there is a give and take with anything

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Speaker 1: in life, within any of your life. Also, Haji says,

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Speaker 1: how do they decide to replace the show when the

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Speaker 1: host leaves like Clay Travis without kick and two pros

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Speaker 1: and a cup of Joe. So again, it's it is

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Speaker 1: a collaborative effort. It is decided by the programming people

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Speaker 1: at our company. At Fox Sports Radio, Don Martin and

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00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: Scott Shapiro are the top two guys, and then they

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Speaker 1: have people around them. They have bosses themselves they have

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Speaker 1: to deal with They have a bunch of red tape

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Speaker 1: with consultants and everyone's chiming in. They have to worry

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Speaker 1: about what show can they sell, what will make the

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Speaker 1: most money for the company. I mean, how much money

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Speaker 1: is the show going to cost. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: moving parts, a lot of spinning plates with that, as

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Speaker 1: you might imagine, any job has these type of things.

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Speaker 1: He also says, are there auditions behind the scene. Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: there are people that, do you know, send in tapes

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Speaker 1: not tapes anymore, it's digital stuff. And there are also

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Speaker 1: some dry runs where they'll put so and so in

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Speaker 1: a studio with somebody else who they think will sound good,

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Speaker 1: and they will throw them together and see if the

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00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: show clicks, see if there's some kind of audio match,

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Speaker 1: and decide at that point, and it is the boss's

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00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: decision there. He says, is there a pecking order set

644
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: ahead of time? Next host up? Not always? Not always.

645
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: I was the bride's maid. For many years, I did

646
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Speaker 1: weekend overnights. I was next in line for a day

647
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Speaker 1: part and it did not happen for nine years. Over

648
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: nine years, I did weekend overnights before I finally got

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Speaker 1: the weekday show. And then I got whacked from that

650
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Speaker 1: job after a year and then brought back six months

651
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Speaker 1: in twenty six days later. And Hog also says, but

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Speaker 1: you're going in depth here on this email. He says,

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00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: how do radio contracts work, Well, it really depends on

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Speaker 1: the host, It depends on the station, the format. So

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of variables with the radio contract. Typically

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00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: they are anywhere from one to three year contracts. There's

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Speaker 1: usually a lot of offset language in the contracts. I

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00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: can't give that information out because I'd be violating my contract.

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Speaker 1: But with any contract, there's a lot of fine print

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Speaker 1: at the bottom that typically protects the employee er and

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00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: not the employee as much. That's just how most businesses work,

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Speaker 1: and so that's that's not a surprise. He also says,

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Speaker 1: how long are they as I said, one to three years?

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Speaker 1: And how do they handle time off? Do you get

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Speaker 1: paid time off? He says, wow, look at this, do

666
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: they have buyouts in other ways to end them early.

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00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: And again it depends on the contract. I do get

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00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: paid time off. I do not take most of my

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00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: time off. I don't do that. And the reason I

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00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: don't do that two reasons. I'm a workaholic. That's one reason.

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Speaker 1: The second reason. The key to to audience retention in

672
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: radio is being there and my experience from being in

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Speaker 1: the business. And I tell people who ask me this

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Speaker 1: young broadcasters who are the next generation, I can't believe

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that, but I tell people who are interested

676
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Speaker 1: in the business, I say, the key to this is

677
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Speaker 1: being like a sofa. You have to be the sofa.

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Speaker 1: Now what do I mean by that? Let me explain.

679
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Speaker 1: So the sofa is there when you need it. It's

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00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: also there when you don't need it. But if you

681
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Speaker 1: go into a room and you want to sit on

682
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: the sofa and there's no sofa there, and maybe there's

683
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: a shitty chair, you're not gonna like that. And that's

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Speaker 1: the way radio is. Radio and the person If you

685
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: like a show, and and that's a big thing that

686
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: gets somebody to like you, you know how hard that is.

687
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Speaker 1: You have so many freaking options to listen to and

688
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Speaker 1: to listen to my fat ass. And so the way

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Speaker 1: I look at this, you gotta be there. You gotta

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Speaker 1: be the sofa. You might not listen to me. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you only work a couple of days a week, and

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00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm there every night. I got the weekend podcast. But

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Speaker 1: I gotta be there when you need me. That's the

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00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: way I look at that. And maybe I'm wrong and

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Speaker 1: I'm dumb and all that. My wife tells me I

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Speaker 1: should take take a hell of a lot more time off,

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Speaker 1: and I do have some family events that I will

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Speaker 1: be taking some time off for, but I try to

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Speaker 1: make it rare and appropriate. Again, one of a praise

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Speaker 1: the phrases I use a lot. But it's very important

701
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: to be there. And that's how you keep an audience,

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00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: and that's how you keep people engaged and you keep

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Speaker 1: people interested. And if you're not there, there's there's a

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Speaker 1: line Jim Rome had and Jim's a legend in the business.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not mocking Jim, but Jim is legendary for

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Speaker 1: taking a lot of vacation time as well. And he

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00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 1: used to say, well, I take a lot of vacation

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Speaker 1: because I get a lot of vacation and that's true.

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Speaker 1: I get a lot of vacation to considering the backbreaking

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Speaker 1: work of having to talk for a living, but it

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Speaker 1: feels more are important to be there. I don't even

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Speaker 1: like taking time off over the holidays. I typically save.

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Speaker 1: I have to take a certain number of days every year,

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Speaker 1: so I typically save that till the week between Christmas

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Speaker 1: and New Year's and that's that's standard when I take

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Speaker 1: my time up. Anyway, we've gone very very long here,

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00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: very long, bad job by me, So I will now,

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Speaker 1: all right, I calm down, I will do that right now,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you've enjoyed this. And uh wow, nice,

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Speaker 1: I understand. And nobody called up. Not a single person

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Speaker 1: called up and said that, so we didn't have to

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Speaker 1: deal with that at all. Have a wonderful rest of

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Speaker 1: your Saturday. If you're interested in cameo, I am on

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Speaker 1: cameo dot com. Did another cameo this week. Had a

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Speaker 1: great time with that. And if you'd like to have

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Speaker 1: a personalized message for you, a Mallard monologue dedicated to you,

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00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: then please contact me on cameo. It's not free, but

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Speaker 1: it's not that much. There's people charging a lot more

729
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: than me. Most people are charging more than me, but

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00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 1: check it out and we'd love to do it for you.

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Speaker 1: And don't forget the mail bag on Sundays Sunday Sunday

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Speaker 1: and we'll catch you next time. Aloha,