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<v Speaker 1>Hell I Suck at Dating with Dengler Jared Haven and

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<v Speaker 1>I heard radio podcast what is going On? Everyone? Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to an all new episode of Help I Suck Get Dating,

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<v Speaker 1>starring the lovely Jared have been featuring yours truly Dean

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<v Speaker 1>unglard to What's going on? Jared? How are you? I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't even normally we have a little bit of banter

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth before the show starts. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>get the chance to say hi to you until now. No,

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<v Speaker 1>let's keep it all on the podcast, make it very real.

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<v Speaker 1>Things are good. We're in Rhode Island. What else? What

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<v Speaker 1>is new with us? Nothing? Much? Man? Uh, Rody Livin

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<v Speaker 1>is doing well. East Coast summers are the best. Things

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<v Speaker 1>are good. I can't complain. How about you? Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I have so many things to update you on, Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing to update me answer. I have so much

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<v Speaker 1>to say. How much time do we have? I think

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<v Speaker 1>We've only got about ten minutes. You know. Actually I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I've got enough time to even say

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<v Speaker 1>any of it, So maybe I'll just keep it to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a great episode for you guys. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's and help Me understand this episode a little bit better, Jared.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've got fans calling in to speak with us yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>So on our Instagram help I suck at dating, which

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<v Speaker 1>you guys should totally follow if you don't already followed.

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<v Speaker 1>We posted on our inst story saying, hey, d on

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<v Speaker 1>us if you feel like your best friend BFF as

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<v Speaker 1>we call it is, is better than any therapist that

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever talked to when it comes to dating, And

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<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna have you on the podcast to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this. So we have two fans coming on. We

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<v Speaker 1>have Sheina and then we have Alyssa, who are going

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<v Speaker 1>to come on and talk about how they're best friends

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<v Speaker 1>know them better than anybody in this world. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>Sheina replied to our instant storian said, my best friend

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<v Speaker 1>knows me way more than I know myself, and I

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<v Speaker 1>suck at dating. So Sheina sucks at dating and her

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<v Speaker 1>best friend knows her better than herself, and Alyssa goes,

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend knows in two seconds if a guy

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<v Speaker 1>looks like he will get a on with me, no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>How she is always right, showed her pick of a

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<v Speaker 1>tender date and she said he will be a dick

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<v Speaker 1>and ghost you after the date and guess what, he

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<v Speaker 1>was a dick and he ghost to her. How did

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<v Speaker 1>she do it? Nobody knows what. We're gonna talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Alyssa about it. So I'm super excited about this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We also have Dr Elizabeth Lombardo coming on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>in a little while. UM, so I'm excited. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a good podcast. Man. Of course, we have emails too,

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite part, my favorite part, all of our favorite parts, emails.

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<v Speaker 1>And as far as I understand that Dr Lombardo is

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<v Speaker 1>going to help us with the emails, Before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to that, I would just like to take a second

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<v Speaker 1>and recognize today as June tenth, it just became a

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<v Speaker 1>federal holiday passed into law. Jee of course, is the

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<v Speaker 1>celebration of the emancipation of slavery. So I just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go an entire episode of that, at least

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<v Speaker 1>bringing that I agree, just acknowledging that. Um it's funny. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>my my roommate and one of my best friends is

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<v Speaker 1>person and of Color, and I was like, Jackson, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta He's actually been on this podcast before, like two

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<v Speaker 1>or three years ago. I was like, you gotta come

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<v Speaker 1>on the podcast and he's actually like the head of

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<v Speaker 1>diversity training for like a big marketing company, And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, dude, this would be a great platform for

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<v Speaker 1>you to like come up and like just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the uncomfortable conversations with the black guy Emmanuel Acho.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be a great opportunity. And obviously I

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<v Speaker 1>can just kind of talk to the producers behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes about this, but to bring him on and we

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<v Speaker 1>could kind of have a conversation with him about that

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<v Speaker 1>type of stuff. He was telling me there are these

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<v Speaker 1>women of color in Colorado, which is where we're both from,

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<v Speaker 1>and white women specifically, would hire them, bring them to

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<v Speaker 1>dinner with them, and then just ask them all of

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<v Speaker 1>the questions that they've always been like unsure of to

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<v Speaker 1>ask and maybe like a little hesitant to ask. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just like I think, once you start having

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<v Speaker 1>those conversations, only good things can come from it. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one of these days we can have a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>like that with him, because he's a very smart man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would love that. I I preach all the time

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<v Speaker 1>I think on comfortable conversations are a great thing to

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<v Speaker 1>have in this world, not a just about race, but

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<v Speaker 1>about sex and a lot of taboo subjects that people

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<v Speaker 1>are afraid to have conversations. But like you said, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to air it out, only good things coming

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<v Speaker 1>from it. Now, I also understand that it's very scary

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<v Speaker 1>to do those things, especially on a public platform. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm extremely nervous when I say things because I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I'm just oblivious or ignorant. And I remember I

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<v Speaker 1>told this story during UM right after the George Floyd

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<v Speaker 1>murder UM last summer and the Black Lives Matter movie

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<v Speaker 1>was happening, and I wanted to post something, and I posted, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I posted black lives matter, uh, something like something all

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<v Speaker 1>encompassing because I was like, okay, I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>black lives matter, all lives matter. And I said that

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<v Speaker 1>and people are like, oh, you can't say all lives matter?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, where does this come from? And

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<v Speaker 1>then obviously I looked more into it and learn more

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But it's like moments like that where you

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<v Speaker 1>have instances you're able to learn from, which is good.

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully that continues. Any who, I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>have him on the podcast. I think that's a great. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate the I think the moral of your story

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<v Speaker 1>is you learned from the things that you didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>of first, right, Like you made a mistake maybe and

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<v Speaker 1>then you kind of redacted it, which I like, you

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<v Speaker 1>just learned from your mistakes. Isn't that the whole point

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<v Speaker 1>of life? Yeah? Exactly, if you do something wrong, learn

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<v Speaker 1>what you did wrong, and go about go about fixing it.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, maybe we can have that happened one day.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Last time he was on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>like two or three years ago. Like I said, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about sex thing. He's like, dude, I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>come on your podcast, just don't make me talk about

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<v Speaker 1>sex thing. And I was like, Yeah, that's that's reasonable,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a reasonable. Texting is a fun conversation, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good segue into our first topic that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to briefly touch on before Alyssa comes. Excuse me, Shena

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<v Speaker 1>is our first guest on She's gonna be on in

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<v Speaker 1>a second talking about her best friend. But I did

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<v Speaker 1>want to mention that there's a new show coming out

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<v Speaker 1>from our former Bachelor producer, Alan gail And who's a

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<v Speaker 1>great man who married Ashley and myself a close friend

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<v Speaker 1>and he is a producer in a brand new reality

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<v Speaker 1>dating show that is going to be on HBO Max

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<v Speaker 1>called F Boy Island. And like the series concept was

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<v Speaker 1>created by Alan, who obviously was a producer on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Uh he's he credits uh Love is Blind and

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<v Speaker 1>HBO Max's holiday theme dating show Twelve Dates of Christmas. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he goes on to say Alan says this,

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<v Speaker 1>when I first got the call to be part of

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<v Speaker 1>a reality dating show called F Boy Island, I said

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<v Speaker 1>yes immediately. Then I realized they weren't asking me to

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the girls looking for love. Oh this

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm sorry, I'm mixing up my quotes all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place. This is Nicky Glazer. Okay, long story short,

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<v Speaker 1>F Boy Island is a brand new show that is

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<v Speaker 1>produced by a lan which I'm super excited about. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be on HBO Max. It is hosted by Nicky Glazer.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything that Alan does, I'm a percent in because that

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<v Speaker 1>man is a genius and I'm super excited for the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly when it's gonna air, um, but

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<v Speaker 1>all I know is that i cannot wait for it.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, on a scale of one to ten for

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<v Speaker 1>f Boy Island, Is it going to be more or

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<v Speaker 1>less cheesy than? Uh? Definitely more but that okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna keep doing it. I'm just gonna say more.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna keep naming a couple of I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go more less, more or less cheesy than Love

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<v Speaker 1>is Blind equal. I think it's very very Love is

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<v Speaker 1>Blind esque. Okay, because I I looked at obviously, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know anything about it at this point. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited to at least give it a try because I

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<v Speaker 1>love Alan. I think he is, like you said, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a genius. I'm excited to watch it. I the cover

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<v Speaker 1>art for the poster, I was like, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>cheesiest looking poster board I've ever seen in my entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like an island with a girl on it, and

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<v Speaker 1>like a million guys like swimming into it, poorly photoshopped

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<v Speaker 1>into it, based only off of a Lan Nikki and

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Dixon, who you know as well, who's awsome, incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>intelligent guy. I'm definitely gonna watch it, but I I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I'm keeping the bar. I'm keeping my expectations maintained

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Well, Alan's kind of, from my understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>the master behind mastermind behind Paradise. Uh, and I Paradise

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<v Speaker 1>is my favorite show within the Bachelor franchise. And and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I just I love a line Alan's creativity.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that he's willing to take risk, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think when he was on Bachelor he was held in

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<v Speaker 1>check a little bit. Obviously, it's an ABC show. ABC

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<v Speaker 1>is owned by Disney. There's only so much provocative things

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<v Speaker 1>that you can do, and you can only toy with

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<v Speaker 1>the edge as far as you can go that ABC

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<v Speaker 1>will allow, rightfully, So of course ABC has to watch themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>But now that Alan is on HBO and producing this

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<v Speaker 1>reality show that's literally titled f Boy Island and airing

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<v Speaker 1>on HBO, which you know, hey, no holds bar on that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very excited to see how far he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>push the envelope. That's what I'm most excited about. I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with what you're saying. HBO will be a fun

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<v Speaker 1>platform for him because it's uh, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>HBO was the network that I saw my first booby

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<v Speaker 1>on when I was a kid. They don't really tend

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<v Speaker 1>to hold back when it comes to that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>So very pretty exciting in that respect. Do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>the show was on I think so there was a

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<v Speaker 1>show back in the day called like cat House something

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<v Speaker 1>and it was about uh, you know what I'm talking, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but also Eastern just message just and I agree with him.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember watching Real Sex as a kid? Oh? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Real Sex Taxi cab confessions. Sometimes you'd see it, and

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<v Speaker 1>then sometimes they would air I think it was on

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<v Speaker 1>HBO that they would air Howard Stern episodes and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you would catch a glimpse of a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>nipple on there and listen. When you're a twelve year

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<v Speaker 1>old boy, this is like a kind of maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>right when the Internet was kind of catching on. So

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<v Speaker 1>and and you have a family computer instead of your

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<v Speaker 1>own personal laptop, so you have to be very careful

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<v Speaker 1>when you could be on your television at one in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning flip over to HBO and see like a

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<v Speaker 1>little something provocative. As a twelve year old boy, you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is awesome. So yeah, I think if anyone within

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<v Speaker 1>our like era has a very strong affinity for HBO

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<v Speaker 1>for that recent alone, in my opinion, um, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited for Eble Island and now I'm gonna go back

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<v Speaker 1>and rewatch real sex. Um. So, Also, I just I

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<v Speaker 1>want to I want to say this before we move

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<v Speaker 1>on to having Sheena joined us. Calin just told me

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<v Speaker 1>that her grandmother listens to the this podcast, and after

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, I just feel a little uncomfortable. So, dear Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to this, Um, I'm sorry, Yes, Klin's grandmother.

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize as well. Uh. I hope we get to

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<v Speaker 1>meet in person one day and I can formally apologize

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<v Speaker 1>for everything I've said on this podcast. Uh. So, we

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<v Speaker 1>do have another topic that I want to get into

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<v Speaker 1>before Sina or Lisa Alyssa calls in, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>there was a New York Times article that said seven

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<v Speaker 1>ways to reset your relationship now. Experts say couples can

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<v Speaker 1>emerge from the pandemic stronger than ever by learning from

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<v Speaker 1>the past and looking towards the future. During this time,

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<v Speaker 1>couples may have been spending about as much time with

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<v Speaker 1>each other as would normally be stretched across a two

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<v Speaker 1>to three year period, said Bryce Tohone, who's a clinical

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<v Speaker 1>psychologist in Portland's, Oregon. And they've had to occupy multiple

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<v Speaker 1>roles that would have been previously filled by others like friends,

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<v Speaker 1>which is impossible. I will say I this the pandemics

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like well, I mean, the horrible nous of

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic obviously aside, it's kind of like bachelor, right

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<v Speaker 1>because you're forced to live together, you're forced to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be creative, and you're stuck in this one place for

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<v Speaker 1>an extended period of time. It's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>speed dating relationship. My sister in law moved back to

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia right before the pandemic started and had to move

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<v Speaker 1>in with her boyfriend and they were living together like

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<v Speaker 1>a month before the pandemic hit, and then boom, they

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<v Speaker 1>were stuck inside the house. And that was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna find out this relationship is going to make

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<v Speaker 1>her to break it through the pandemic. Thank god they

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<v Speaker 1>made it and now they're engaged. Yeah. I agree. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a similar situation, not quite as extreme as

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<v Speaker 1>that though. For Kayla and I we were together I

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<v Speaker 1>think for probably seven eight months at the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>then yeah, you just go from you know, doing your

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<v Speaker 1>own thing to all of a sudden being with each other. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to what do you think. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>more couples succeeded or failed because of it? I if

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<v Speaker 1>I had to bet, I'd love to see numbers on this,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say more couples. I'd honestly, my gut reactions

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<v Speaker 1>says failed because I bet people looked at it and said, hey, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I only have so much time on this earth. I

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<v Speaker 1>think people are really rethinking their priorities throughout this pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're probably wanting to do the things that they've

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<v Speaker 1>always wanted to do, kind of like you, where you're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to travel and I want to see this,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're very lucky to have someone like Kalin who

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<v Speaker 1>supports that and lets you do your own adventures. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like everyone's like Kalin. So I'm curious if

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, hey, I need to do this, and

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<v Speaker 1>then other people were like hey, I need you here,

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<v Speaker 1>and that caused friction, and uh, I bet more relationships

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<v Speaker 1>broke up then stay together through the pandemic. I'll bet

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<v Speaker 1>you what though. I bet you if you in thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years time were to compare divorce statistics, I bet you

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<v Speaker 1>that there would be are decrease in divorces judging from

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<v Speaker 1>this eighteen month window that we've been in, because, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, it kind of pressure cooks the relationship pre

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<v Speaker 1>marriage obviously, Like I don't really think any married couples

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<v Speaker 1>were getting divorced because of COVID. I'm sure obviously one

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<v Speaker 1>or two whatever, But I think I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of think in the world it gives you, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying way less than other relationships. I bet you

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<v Speaker 1>it get. It gets giving these couples a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>insight to whether they're gonna want to spend the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of their life with this person. And because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to reduce the divorce rates at

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<v Speaker 1>least for this little eighteen month window, if you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. No, I that's an interesting theory. So

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Times article goes on says, now as

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<v Speaker 1>many couples have to plunge back into the hum of life,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a perfect opportunity for a relationship reset, to

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<v Speaker 1>learn from our time hunkering down together and look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to the future. So Number one, they say, there are

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<v Speaker 1>seven ways to reset your relationship. Number One, do a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship review. First, have a sit down together to assess

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<v Speaker 1>what worked about your relationship and what didn't during quarantine.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a good idea. Sure, why not. Shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>you just do that all the time anyway, not just

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<v Speaker 1>about quarantine. Shouldn't you kind of sit down and be like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm thinking, this is what you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>be on the same page. No, maybe, yes, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I think yeah. I think quarantine kind of gives you

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<v Speaker 1>an excuse to sit down and say and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it though, which is nice. It's always going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a reason, you know. Fair point number two, voice your appreciation.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps over the past year you haven't felt like giving

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<v Speaker 1>compliments to your partner, but positive feedback is important. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you compliment Kalin a lot? I bet you do. I

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<v Speaker 1>compliment her more in the short term, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it could probably do a better job of being like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>just so let you know, I appreciate your existence more

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<v Speaker 1>so than just being like, hey, you look really nice today,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of like more of a broader, more

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<v Speaker 1>all encompassing compliment, more in depth compliment, yeah, which probably

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<v Speaker 1>are more meaningful, uh A little know in fact about Dean, Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>you are a great compliment tour if that makes you're

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<v Speaker 1>great at giving compliments well, as are you, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much. I'm also a really good compliment hee. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really good at receiving compliments, which I get quite often.

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<v Speaker 1>If I don't, if I don't, you know, humble brag. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding, I'm actually bad at it. There was

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<v Speaker 1>actually a time, like a week ago. I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>what it was, but Kylin and I hadn't really hung

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<v Speaker 1>out for a long time. Calin was like in Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>for a month and I was in Los Angeles for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks. She got back and I like

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of like hungover, so I was like pretty

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<v Speaker 1>stand offish, and then I left to go play golf

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like driving away and I texted her

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, Hey, I just don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>to know I'm really sorry for being kind of quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate that you're back in Los Angeles and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Los Angeles is a better city with you

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<v Speaker 1>here or something like that. Uh. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>as I was like, hopefully she takes that as a,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a good thing. I don't know. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just one of those moments where I was like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of trying to be more you know, retroactively complimentary instead

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<v Speaker 1>of just being like, you look nice or whatever. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where this story was. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you're bad at taking compliments is a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing because that means you're humble. Now we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get it back to this article because we also have

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<v Speaker 1>five more to go that we want to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about. But we do have a very special guest

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<v Speaker 1>who was on the line with us right now. It

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<v Speaker 1>is the help I Suck, a dating fan that we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about who said her best friend knows her

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<v Speaker 1>best way better than she knows herself, and including the

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<v Speaker 1>best friend apparently told her, hey, listen, this guy is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a dick and this guy's gonna ghost you.

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<v Speaker 1>And she knew all this just by looking at a

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<v Speaker 1>tender day. It is our friend, Alyssa, Alyssa, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, Ali, Ali? Or a LISTA do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Which one do you go by? I go by Ali? Well, Ali,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jared. It's so nice meeting you. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. Yeah, of course, h so, Ali, you told

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<v Speaker 1>us that your best friend knows you way better than

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<v Speaker 1>you know yourself, and apparently your best friend knew in

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<v Speaker 1>two seconds if a guy was going to work out

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<v Speaker 1>with you or not, including the story that I just

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<v Speaker 1>told where you showed your best friend a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>a tender date that you had and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>black guy is gonna be a jerk and totally ghost

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<v Speaker 1>to And guess what, that guy was totally a jerk

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<v Speaker 1>and ghost to do. How the hell did she know that?

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I knew. She has done it more times,

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<v Speaker 1>honestly than I can count, and I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>she knows. I literally I will send her a picture

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, nope, red flags. I'm like, well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a picture of him smiling, Like how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you getting that? I will never understand. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we might need to have your friend on this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast to kind of dive into the reason and logic

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<v Speaker 1>behind it. I think, so we have all these dating

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<v Speaker 1>experts on, but truly your best friend is the dating

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<v Speaker 1>expert because she can just see a picture of a

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<v Speaker 1>person be like, no, it's not going to work out,

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<v Speaker 1>or it could be the love of your life. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it is? Do you think that she's

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<v Speaker 1>able to read the men really well or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just that she knows you really well. I

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<v Speaker 1>think she just knows me, and I think she knows

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm going beneath me, and she's just like, you

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<v Speaker 1>can come on. And I think, you know, sometimes your

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<v Speaker 1>friends just know if you're taking it too easy on yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, just push yourself out there, like stop

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<v Speaker 1>sticking with the same person that you know it's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work. How long have you guys been best friends

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<v Speaker 1>for since fifth grade? Oh? Wow, long times? So she

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<v Speaker 1>definitely doesn't know you very very well. Oh yeah, what's

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<v Speaker 1>she doing it back in middle school and everything to like,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have a crush on a on a boy

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<v Speaker 1>in middle school or something, and she would kind of

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<v Speaker 1>talk you out of it. I think the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>about us is that we have complete opposite taste, so

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<v Speaker 1>we've never had an issue of like the same guy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always been complete opposites. And I think that's why

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<v Speaker 1>we get along so well and why we can tell

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<v Speaker 1>each other everything because there's no conflicting interests ever. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in middle school, we were you know, we would talk

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<v Speaker 1>about guys all the time. I mean that recess, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>every day, It's what girls do in middle school. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's how we bonded. So, Ali, you

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<v Speaker 1>also said that you suck at dating. Now, granted, my

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<v Speaker 1>whole theory is that we all suck at dating no

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<v Speaker 1>other whether we're married single in a relationship doesn't matter,

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<v Speaker 1>because I can tell you I'm married, and I promise

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<v Speaker 1>you my wife would say I suck at dating. So Ali,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think you suck at dating at? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I think going into relationship is just scary,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I think taking that leap and really putting

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<v Speaker 1>all your trust in somebody is a scary thing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially if you have those doubts is this the

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<v Speaker 1>right person to really, you know, give everything to. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard, and um, I think that's where a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the issues stem from. For me especially, It's just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, putting that trust in someone when you had

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<v Speaker 1>that trust broken so many times already. Yeah, it's scary.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not easy, especially right now during like coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of this pandemic and then having to like re enter society.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a crazy time to start dating right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy. And I'm a single mom, so I actually

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<v Speaker 1>have a three year old daughter. So we've had our

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<v Speaker 1>fair share of you know, broken trust and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's where, especially now it's gotten worse,

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<v Speaker 1>where my issues are. Where do you live, Alle? I

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<v Speaker 1>live in Portland, Oregon. Oh nice, nice. Yeah. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what the dating scene is like up there. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there's a lot of a lot of outdoorsy people

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<v Speaker 1>up there, right, And I'm not out doorsy, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to find hard to find the right the right person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have some more interest too. I relate to

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<v Speaker 1>you there, Ali, I am not Outdersey either. Dean is

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<v Speaker 1>very outdoorsy. Uh yeah. Sometimes sometimes guy jumps out of planes.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a he has a van. Okay, live in

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<v Speaker 1>a van. Um. But Ali, I just want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you now that you brought up that you're a single mom,

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<v Speaker 1>So how is that with dating? You know, we talked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about this pot on this podcast about you

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people struggled dating um when they

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<v Speaker 1>have kids, because it's always like that awkward conversation sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have and saying hey, you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>not you're not just dating me, but you know I

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<v Speaker 1>also have you know, a kid who I love very much,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know, there's more that goes into just hey,

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<v Speaker 1>let's kind of hang out and see what happens. So,

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<v Speaker 1>how has your experience been like that? Um with dating? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think it's it's a hard boundary to

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<v Speaker 1>set because obviously you want a relationship, but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to introduce somebody to your kid that in six

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<v Speaker 1>months it's gonna even they get attached, right, So I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think it's a thing where I don't hide it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know there's some situations where people like

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<v Speaker 1>leave it out until last minute, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>just wrong because I don't want a guy to have

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<v Speaker 1>certain expectations and then realize I had a kid and like,

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<v Speaker 1>I obviously she's my priority and I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to, you know, drop everything, go on a date.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to you know, get my mom to watch her,

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<v Speaker 1>get a babysitter, like whatever. It's it's not as simple

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, just being able to go out. And

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<v Speaker 1>like I've had guys who the day before, like you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go out some more, I'm like I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody can watch her, you know. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard where I have set the boundary where if I

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<v Speaker 1>find somebody it's at least gonna be like a few

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<v Speaker 1>months before I'm going to introduce them to her, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think for kids, it's hard for them to understand,

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<v Speaker 1>especially because her dad's not in the picture. What like

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<v Speaker 1>a dad is, you know? And I don't want her

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<v Speaker 1>to get that attachment and then it just be broken. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you sound like a great mom, and truly I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>being I'm not saying that, just like trying to be nice.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a very respectful, um thing that you just said.

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<v Speaker 1>And we wish you the best of luck, and thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for listening to the podcast, and thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for coming on. Are you gonna be no?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Thanks Ali, see you later. Yeah, by Alie.

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<v Speaker 1>So starting interrupt really quick. Is Diana your friend? She's

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<v Speaker 1>now in the waiting room, Yes she is? Okay, Oh interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>So Diana is the fortune telling friend? Is that right? Yes? Hi?

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Diana, Hi Diana. Great to meet you, guys. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the pleasure is all our You're the one who with

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<v Speaker 1>the with the crystal ball over here telling your your

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<v Speaker 1>friend Ali over here. Who's good for her? Who's not

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<v Speaker 1>good for her? Well, it's like pretty easy to tell

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<v Speaker 1>most of the guys, Diana, we gotta know what's what's

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<v Speaker 1>your method to uh deciphering who is and who isn't

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<v Speaker 1>good enough or like and what they're gonna do with

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<v Speaker 1>such great, uh an enormous accuracy. Like Ali was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you said that some guy was going to take around

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<v Speaker 1>a date and then ghost through after the day, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what happened. So how do you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>nail it in so so accurately? You just like likes

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<v Speaker 1>guys who are kind of douche bags, So like, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's kind of easy to make that assumption

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<v Speaker 1>with most of them, but not most of them ghost her.

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:19.840
<v Speaker 1>But this one particular, I think it was just like

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<v Speaker 1>very clear he had douchebag energy. So I like, Diana,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that you're able to just tell by a

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<v Speaker 1>picture if a guy has douche bag energy. I really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy that it's so easy to tell. Yeah, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>what's what do you think the number one tell tale

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<v Speaker 1>sign is of douchebag energy? Oh, like a gym me

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<v Speaker 1>or selfie or like if they played a sports college,

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<v Speaker 1>that's an immediate red flag for me. Hey, did you

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<v Speaker 1>play a sport in college? I played intermural flag football

0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 1>is that it does it. And I didn't play college

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<v Speaker 1>sport either, so I think we're good. We just gotta

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<v Speaker 1>make sure we don't take pictures in front of the gym.

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<v Speaker 1>I played a college sport. There we go. We're gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we do. We just cause friction and

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<v Speaker 1>friendships over here and help us I get dating. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it was me all along. I don't think so. Ali

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<v Speaker 1>and Diana, thank you so much for coming on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We truly appreciate it, and thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>responding to the d M and listening to the podcast.

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:22.240
<v Speaker 1>It means the world to us. Well, thank you so

0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:25.000
<v Speaker 1>much for having us. Glad to be here. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you guys so much. Podcast. Hey, maybe next time

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<v Speaker 1>you come on the podcast, you'll suck just a little

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a stumble down memory lane. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we'll have cocktails sometimes, so we might leave stumbling.

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<v Speaker 1>relive the show as so many of you have so

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<v Speaker 1>We can't wait to take this trip down memory lane

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<v Speaker 1>with all of you. What would our characters be doing

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<v Speaker 1>right now? I think Hayley would probably be I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she's got to be close to an empty nuster now

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<v Speaker 1>right like um Jamie's out of the house. She might

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<v Speaker 1>years that she you know what I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it might be time. I'm going to say a lot

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<v Speaker 1>not long ago. I found my vote Brook Davis for

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<v Speaker 1>You could sit with us girl, John McQueen's John McQueen's

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<v Speaker 1>John McQueen's Drama John McQueen's John Queens. Hey, welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the podcast, Dean myself, So another thank you to

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Ali and Diana for joining us on the podcast. That

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<v Speaker 1>was great. And we have another special guest who's on

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<v Speaker 1>the line with this right now. She is the authority

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<v Speaker 1>on how to crush your inner critic so that you

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<v Speaker 1>can live a life of purpose fulfillment and true success.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Dr Elizabeth Lombardo. Doctor. How are you? I

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<v Speaker 1>am well and grateful to be here. We're very grateful

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<v Speaker 1>to have you. So you are. This is I'm not joking,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how they phrased it for me. You are

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<v Speaker 1>America's most trusted celebrity psychologist with over one hundred national

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<v Speaker 1>media interviews. You were on the Today Show, Good Morning America,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Oz. I don't know why I said that with

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<v Speaker 1>like such a Boston actic accent, doctor as Fox, Business News,

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Journal, Forbes, your all over the place. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so thank you for coming on the podcast. So you

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 1>are a celebrity psychologist. Yes, what do you do exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean? You just you only talk to celebrities. Well,

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't only talk to celebrities, but I do work

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of celebrities and professional athletes. Because here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, it's not easy being in the limelight all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Right. You can even go to target without

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<v Speaker 1>people watching you, taking pictures of you, constantly being scrutinized,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of times people think, once you've quote

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<v Speaker 1>made it, once you have the money, the fame, the fortune,

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<v Speaker 1>then you should have no problems at all. And yet

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<v Speaker 1>there are unique problems and issues that celebrities and professional

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<v Speaker 1>athletes face. And so that's what I specialize in. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Dean just logged off. He'll he'll be back in a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes his WiFi comes to goo offend him. Probably he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, excuse me, I'm very famous. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why you don't famous for this? Yeah, apparently. Um no,

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<v Speaker 1>I I totally agree with you. You know, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many different, um problems that a lot of people have

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<v Speaker 1>in this world, and like you said, with celebrity status

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<v Speaker 1>and someone who's like had a small, small, small sliver

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Um, it is crazy because you are truly

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<v Speaker 1>under a microscope and everything that you say and do

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 1>can be used against you. Uh, not just in the

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<v Speaker 1>court of law, but in the court of public opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very important. Um. And it's pretty sure people

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>have opinions now right that really it's and it's their own,

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<v Speaker 1>it's their own stuff that they're just putting out on

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<v Speaker 1>other people. They're unhappy. So they're putting other people down.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna put down the people who are more successful

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<v Speaker 1>because it helps them theoretically feel better about themselves. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really, but they think it will. Yeah, Um, I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>and like to make it a little bit timely. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Chris Harrison from The Bachelor franchises no longer

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<v Speaker 1>with the show, and you know, I'm not saying my

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<v Speaker 1>opinion about this, but one thing that I did want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, we we've talked about it on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>extensively last week, was a lot of people are saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison has a position of power and because of

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is that he said his position of power

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<v Speaker 1>needed to be taken away. But it's hard because that

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<v Speaker 1>position of power that people want to say is his job.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I feel like that kind of relates as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have to get into it because I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a really uh you know, very sensitive topic,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was something that was just on my head. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>But you're also you also describe how you're on a

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<v Speaker 1>mission to help recognize your real self worth, which helps

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<v Speaker 1>you live the life that you've always dreamed of. So

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<v Speaker 1>how can people out there really uh realize their self

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<v Speaker 1>worth because I mean, so many of my friends and

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<v Speaker 1>so many people you probably know, they just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're always down on themselves and it's hard to really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of figure out, Hey, listen, I'm worth it. So

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<v Speaker 1>how can people do that? Yeah, and it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>do I have high self worth or low self worth?

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just the quantitative, but I would say it's

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<v Speaker 1>also be qualitative, meaning what kind of self worth are

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<v Speaker 1>you focused on? So, as a society, people tend to

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<v Speaker 1>have what I call conditional self worth. Conditional self worth

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>means I believe in myself if and only if certain

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 1>external circumstances are met, and those external circumstances vary from

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<v Speaker 1>person in person, So it maybe if and only if

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<v Speaker 1>I get a certain number of likes on social media,

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<v Speaker 1>if people compliment me, if I look a certain way,

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<v Speaker 1>if I make a certain amount of money, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they're constantly determining how to view themselves according to how

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<v Speaker 1>other people react, what's going on in the outside world.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we do that, it's almost like being on

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<v Speaker 1>a treadmill. Right, you take a step forward, but eventually

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 1>you got to take another step, another step, another step,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get nowhere. So the goal is to really

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<v Speaker 1>have what I call unconditional self worth. Unconditional self worth

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>means you believe in yourself regardless now that in a

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>narcissistic I'm better than your sort of way, but just

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>based on your values, based on your course strengths, who

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>you are, being comfortable in your own skin, so that

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<v Speaker 1>not only can you be happier within you, but then

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you share that with other people. Because people who have

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<v Speaker 1>conditional self worthy, I only feel good about myself if

0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 1>they're the ones who are putting other people down. Are

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>putting other people down and feel better about themselves. There's

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<v Speaker 1>the ones who have come from this wind lose mentality.

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>If I win, then you lose, but if you win,

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<v Speaker 1>then I lose, and so there's this constant competition that

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 1>they have. When we have unconditional subworth, we can just

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>believe in ourselves for who we are. We can take

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 1>feedback and it doesn't feel like a personal attack on us.

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>We can we can listen to and decide what we

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>want to do with it. But it's that notion where

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm good regardless of how other people react towards me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've got a question for you. Then, So on

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<v Speaker 1>that note, I how do I differentiate between unconditional self

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<v Speaker 1>worth and being critical to the point where I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to improve myself because I think that I've got self

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>worth pretty down for myself, but I'm so critical of myself,

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I do something dumb or make a mistake,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like, in my head, my internal monologue is like, oh,

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 1>you idiot, you mess that up so bad, like blah

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. But I say that because I know that

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I can do better, and it's like kind of an

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>encouragement for me to do better next time. So how

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>do I kind of differentiate between those two things? So

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>is that notion the spirit of continuous improvement, Like, Hey,

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm good and I can keep getting better. And so

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>that that that talk, that internal dialogue that you have,

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>does it motivate you or does it push you down

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>and make you feel bad about yourself? So really the

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 1>barometer there would be how does it feel when you

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>have those internal conversations. If it feels encouraging and motivating

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of in a drill sergeant, you know you're gonna

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>do better kind of way, great, If it feels like

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.479
<v Speaker 1>I feel really down about myself, then you may want

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>to address that inner critic. That makes sense, That makes

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense. Yeah, I guess I've to just

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of close loop on that. I've never really gotten

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 1>down on myself for it, but I just like, I'll

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>like say things out lot sometimes and my friends will

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>hear me and they're like, who, man, Like, you need

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>to be less harsh on yourself, And I'm like, no,

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I need to be harder on myself. I don't know, well,

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you know. And again it's it's drill sergeant versus versus

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>cheerleader mentality. Right, Both a drill sergeant who yells and

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>put someone down versus a cheerleader who encourages them. The

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>ultimate goal for both is the same, for that person

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>to be better. Right. So some people respond better to

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a little more harsh because it does motivate them. Some

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 1>people that kind of inner dialogue put some way down,

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>they feel, you know, down depressed, they can't they can't

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>do anything. So it really is determined by the individual.

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Dean, I'm I'm very much a drill short

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>sergeant in my own head. Um, But my question is,

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 1>how do how do you achieve unconditional self worth? Because

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I completely agree with you, but I'm sure, like myself

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>so many people out there, it just almost feels impossible

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 1>to achieve because it's no matter how many times I

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 1>tell myself I can do what I can do. I

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>like I'm worth it, I can do this like, there's

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 1>always a pretty decent sized voice in the back of

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>my head saying probably not. You probably can't do it. Yeah.

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing. You did not come out of

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:50.919
<v Speaker 1>your mama's womb thinking I'm not good enough, I can't

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.600
<v Speaker 1>do this. Right, that was learned. Anything learned can be

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.799
<v Speaker 1>unlearned and relearned. But if you created a habit, which

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 1>is what these thoughts are, right, they kind of beating

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.800
<v Speaker 1>yourself up thoughts, they have become habit. Once you create

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>a habit, it takes more than one practice to undo it.

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>So my grandmother, she was a psychiatric nurse, but she

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 1>was also a very a very good piano player. And

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>even though she never graduated from university, she taught a

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>course um in college called how to play the Piano

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 1>despite years of practice. So think about that, how to

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:25.400
<v Speaker 1>play the piano despite years of practice. So what she

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>do is she would work with her her students. She

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>would get rid of the habits that they had developed.

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 1>She would help them get rid of the ones that

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't work. She would teach them the ones that do work,

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 1>and then they would practice the habits that work. So,

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:39.840
<v Speaker 1>if you get rid of what isn't working for you,

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>some of that inner dialogue that's beating you up, at

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the same time, learn the skills of how to rewire

0:35:45.000 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 1>your brain, of how to approach things differently, and you

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 1>practice that over and over and over again. Then what

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you're doing is you're rewiring your brain so that that

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>becomes your new normal. It doesn't happen overnight. It's a process.

0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 1>But you also didn't learn this inner critic overnight. Do

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>you have an example of, like, what's the first step

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 1>someone can take in order to start on learning those things,

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Because I think the the you know, enacting those things

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 1>is the most difficult part, right just like in life,

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 1>like whenever hey, I want to get back in shape,

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the most difficult thing is actually go into the gym.

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Like you know, once you're there, you're fine, but it's like, okay,

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I gotta force myself. So what is something somebody can

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>do to force themselves saying hey, I this is how

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I can re teach myself. Yeah, great question. And and

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>on top of that, scientist say, we have about sixty

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:38.839
<v Speaker 1>thousand thoughts racing through our head every single day bucks.

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't even think I could count from one to

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 1>sixty and you know the time that I'm awake. So

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>all of these thoughts are racing through our head. We

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 1>don't even know we're having them. So the first step

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:50.879
<v Speaker 1>is actually to realize what you're saying to yourself, right,

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 1>realize when that inner critic is getting so loud because

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's for a lot of people, it's almost like

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 1>background music, like you don't really notice it until someone says, oh,

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 1>do you hear that song? You're like, oh, yeah, it's

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 1>been playing this whole time. So one of the ways

0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>to realize when you're having these thoughts that aren't helpful

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 1>to you, or what I call red flags and red

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>flag three different red flags. And when you have these,

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:12.800
<v Speaker 1>what I want you to do is stop and ask yourself, wait,

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 1>what am I saying to myself? So the first red

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>flag is when you have emotions you don't want you notice,

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you're feeling angry or anxious, or worried or overwhelmed, depressed,

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is. Those emotions are caused by a thought,

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>so we stop and say what am I saying to myself?

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Second red flag are are physiological, right, physical symptoms. Some

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 1>some people notice maybe butterflies in their and their stomach.

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I noticed when I walk by the mirror and my

0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 1>ears on my shoulders have become one because there's so

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>much tension in my neck. That's my red flag. So

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>looking at what your body is saying to some people

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:46.839
<v Speaker 1>get sweaty palms, or some people kind of get put

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>with blotchy face or racing heart rate. Stop and ask

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 1>yourself what am I saying to myself right now that

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:54.720
<v Speaker 1>may be causing this? And then the third red flag

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.440
<v Speaker 1>our behaviors you don't want to do. So when you

0:37:57.520 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 1>notice yourself, I don't know, being more irritable with a

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 1>love one. When you notice yourself if you wanted to

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:03.840
<v Speaker 1>go to the gym, and you notice yourself avoiding a

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>procrastinated going to the gym, red flag? What am I

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 1>saying to myself that may be causing that? Because we

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 1>have to know what you're saying to yourself in order

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 1>to change it. There's been many days where I go

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:18.839
<v Speaker 1>to the gym and sit in my car for real

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 1>good twenty five minutes just scrolling through my phone and

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, just get in there, just go, just go,

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>just go, just go, just do it. And then it

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:28.359
<v Speaker 1>takes about twenty minutes finally get in there. How long

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>do you work out? I know, I'm, I'm it's maybe

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm dramatizing it, but it's probably a good five minutes.

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:38.840
<v Speaker 1>And then when you're in your head for five minutes,

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>it feels like twenty. Um. Well, Dr, thank you so much. Now,

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:45.360
<v Speaker 1>we do have some emails, So every week we have

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:47.640
<v Speaker 1>emailers that email us in that listen to the podcast

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 1>and ask questions, and so I love if you could

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 1>stick around and help us answer some of those questions. Excellent,

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<v Speaker 1>I love to all Right, cool, we're gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break, and then when we're back to Dean's favorite

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<v Speaker 1>e Well, thank you. But before we get to emails,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well we got. We got a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>from Christian. My fiancee and I are getting married in September.

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<v Speaker 1>We're happy and love. We get along really well. We've

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<v Speaker 1>had maybe three fights in the four years have been together,

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<v Speaker 1>all of which have been focused around his bad habits,

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<v Speaker 1>one of which is porn. At first, I was really

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<v Speaker 1>disappointed when I learned he watched it. For the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>it is considered normal, so I learned to accept that

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<v Speaker 1>part of him and not push the issue further. However,

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 1>recently I could feel in my gut that something wasn't right,

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>so I did something I should never do. I looked

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:40.879
<v Speaker 1>at his phone. Now I know that he would never

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:43.160
<v Speaker 1>physically cheat on me, and I didn't find evidence of that,

0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:45.800
<v Speaker 1>thank god. However, I did see that he's been searching

0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 1>girls names on Instagram and all of them have explicit

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:52.240
<v Speaker 1>content in their profiles. And on Snapchat he was following

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>an explicit females content, which is the same person he

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.920
<v Speaker 1>sent a follow request to on Instagram. He isn't liking

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.040
<v Speaker 1>the pictures, but it just doesn't seem like something a

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:03.239
<v Speaker 1>loving fiance would do. So my question is, should I

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 1>be word that he likes to view and follow other

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:08.319
<v Speaker 1>girls posting explicit content or should I just let it go?

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:12.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's uh, that's a loaded question, as they usually are.

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I kind of think I kind of think it's it's

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>teetering to the side of being a bad thing, because, yes,

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>while porn has been normalized over the past couple of decades,

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I think going out of the way to follow them

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>on like social media, that's a little that's a little uh,

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 1>that's crossing a line in my opinion, And again, I

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 1>could be swayed either direction. I just my gut tells

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.319
<v Speaker 1>me that it's is a bit of an issue in

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 1>my opinion. Um, I well, Dr, why don't you go

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 1>first and then I'll give my opinion. Ryan. Now, it's

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a huge red flag just because he hasn't been caught

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>having a physical relationship with someone else. This is an

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 1>emotional fair. These are multiple emotional affairs. If he's doing

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>this now when you know he's you, you're usually on

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 1>your best behavior when you're dating. I don't even want

0:43:05.640 --> 0:43:07.280
<v Speaker 1>to think about what's gonna happen if you get married.

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Huge red flag. I say, But okay, Dr, let's can

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 1>we say this that can we can we encourage you're

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 1>taking in front him about it and then kind of

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 1>see how things unfold from there. Do you think she

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>just get up and pack her bags and go out

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 1>right away? We certainly have a conversation with him. I mean,

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and again, this is an emotional bear that he's having.

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:30.799
<v Speaker 1>So how do we know that? Well, if he's being dishonest, Um,

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 1>he's lying about it, and is this something he says, Hey,

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.760
<v Speaker 1>why don't you pursue your own interests outside the bedroom

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 1>between the two of us, also know he's doing this

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 1>behind her back. Um, he's not being open and honest. Yeah,

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 1>I would definitely have a conversation with him, But it

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 1>sounds like, given what she said, um, that you know,

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:53.399
<v Speaker 1>this has been a habit. This is not something new,

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's a huge red flag. I would not jump

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:58.799
<v Speaker 1>into this marriage right now. I would definitely take a

0:43:58.840 --> 0:44:01.840
<v Speaker 1>step back to have a conversation and see what's gonna happen.

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:08.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely leading towards the doctor's advice here. Listen, porn

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 1>is normal, like I every once in a while if

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 1>you watch it, like I get it right, you know,

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>but this seems like an addiction because you've had fights

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<v Speaker 1>about it. You guys did for four years, and the

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 1>only fight you've had about that you guys had in

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:28.359
<v Speaker 1>your relationship is about his you know, watching porn, which

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:31.399
<v Speaker 1>seems like it's not like just like a random, hey,

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 1>once a month thing or whatever. It's it seems like

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>he's doing this on a consistent level. To the point,

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.480
<v Speaker 1>like you said, he's following girls on Instagram who have

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 1>explicit content and on Snapchat. Um, it's just seems like

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 1>it might be an addiction for him, and it's something

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.320
<v Speaker 1>that you should confront totally before you decide to get married,

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:54.360
<v Speaker 1>because once you get married, it could get a lot messier.

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:56.279
<v Speaker 1>So this is something that Christian, if I are you,

0:44:56.360 --> 0:44:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I would confront. I don't think you should let this go.

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:01.319
<v Speaker 1>I think you should let him know that this is

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<v Speaker 1>a big issue for you, one that could potentially end

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:09.359
<v Speaker 1>the relationship if he's not willing to UM change in

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 1>some way and dr see if you agree with this. UM.

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you know, we're saying porn is normal.

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:17.320
<v Speaker 1>I feel like every relationship is different. So just because

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody tells you something is normal, don't ignore it. If

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>it bothers you. If it's something that bothers you, it's

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:24.319
<v Speaker 1>time to talk about it. Don't say all my friends

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.720
<v Speaker 1>that's normal, or society said this normal. If it bothers

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you, you you got to talk about it. Everybody is different. Absolutely, Yeah,

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:32.919
<v Speaker 1>normal is relative, right what your normal is in person?

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:35.319
<v Speaker 1>And we're not just talking about watching porn. We're talking

0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>about following different women that that's that's different here. So

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 1>there are a couple of different layers of what's going on.

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 1>But absolutely, just because someone says it's normal doesn't mean

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 1>it means to be your normal. If it's not comfortable

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:49.360
<v Speaker 1>for you. Red flag, listen to your gut, because so

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:51.560
<v Speaker 1>often people don't and then they end up getting divorced

0:45:51.600 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years later. You don't need to do that. Yeah,

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 1>And and like I said at the top of it,

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I was I was teetering either direction after hearing your

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>guys arguments. I fully am on board what you guys

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 1>are saying, and i'd like to I'd like to specify

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:05.319
<v Speaker 1>to the reason, uh in my opinion at least, and

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.359
<v Speaker 1>please anyone correct, jump in and correct me if they

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 1>think I'm wrong here. The reason it becomes a red

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 1>flag once he starts following the social media accounts on

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Instagram and Snapchat is because then it becomes accessible to

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.800
<v Speaker 1>the point where you're in line of the grocery store,

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 1>you're at work, or you're driving your car or something

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:22.480
<v Speaker 1>like that, and you're just like scrolling through Instagram and

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 1>then you're looking at that you know, explicit explicit content there.

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 1>Then the level of access is too immediate and to you,

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you're just kind of like integrating that into your everyday life.

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's when it becomes a big issue in my degree.

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:38.239
<v Speaker 1>And it's also scary because things escalate you know, it's like, oh,

0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm just watching porn. Oh now I'm just following. Oh

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>now I just comment. Oh now I'm just d m NG.

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, that's what I'd be nervous about the

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:50.399
<v Speaker 1>escalation of Yeah, I agree, I agree. I think that's great.

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:53.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that Uh. I want to go ahead and say,

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I think if we were given that email two years ago,

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 1>we would have had much different responses, not because we

0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>would have felt differently, but just because our advice is

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:04.840
<v Speaker 1>just especially with doctor, with the doctor here, we are

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 1>just getting insignificantly well, not insurmountably better, significantly better. I

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 1>want to say, I really think it's all credited to

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Dr Elizabeth for joining us. Dr Lombarda. I don't disagree,

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 1>but I just I want to. I want us to

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:23.880
<v Speaker 1>give ourselves some credit here to conditional self worthy. The

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:27.839
<v Speaker 1>evolution of Dan and Jared continues. All right, this is anonymous,

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 1>and it canna be a very similar issue. I've been

0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:31.319
<v Speaker 1>geting a guy for over a year now. I love

0:47:31.400 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 1>him dearly. I know he loves me. We talked about

0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 1>plans to get married and spent our lives together. We've

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 1>met all of each other's family and now we lived together.

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I recently went out of town and my boyfriend messaged

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 1>multiple girls as soon as he dropped me off at

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the airport. I found these messages about a week later.

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:48.120
<v Speaker 1>He tells me nothing came with the messages, and I

0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:50.560
<v Speaker 1>believe him from what I read. I also talked to

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the only girl that applied to him. He said this

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 1>is something he has done on and off throughout our relationship,

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 1>but has never physically cheated on me. Just like knowing

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 1>he could still get attention from girls made and feel good.

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:03.399
<v Speaker 1>He wants to stay together. He says, he still loves

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 1>me and he wants to move forward from this, but

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:07.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how. Please send your advice. I'll tell

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 1>you how. You tell him not to d m other

0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:14.279
<v Speaker 1>girls like I. I mean, I, I don't get this.

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I listen Anonymous, I send you all the love in

0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:20.839
<v Speaker 1>the world. But don't believe him when he says, oh,

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I know nothing was coming from the messages, like I

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:27.880
<v Speaker 1>just I like getting the attention from women. That's the

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 1>most giant red flag there is. He's not If he

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:34.239
<v Speaker 1>loves the attention so much, he probably also wants the

0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:38.400
<v Speaker 1>attention not just over DM, but in person. Big red flag.

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we had a really unique opportunity between

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 1>these two emails to to see Christian's life one year

0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:47.080
<v Speaker 1>in the future, Christian being the first email or who

0:48:47.080 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 1>emailed us saying this because this is exactly her situation

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:52.759
<v Speaker 1>in one year of we're gonna dropped off at the

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 1>airport and her boyfriend hopefully her not her husband at

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:57.279
<v Speaker 1>the time, d M and girls and seeing if he

0:48:57.280 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 1>can just get the attention of them. And I agree,

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that's definitely a red flag. I think that's

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 1>just it's just not not good. I want to hear

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Dr Lombardo's take on it, because I know she's going

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:09.399
<v Speaker 1>to have a very solid take on this. Well. First

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 1>of all, just because nothing happened doesn't mean it just

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:18.720
<v Speaker 1>means he was unsuccessful to murder and missing. When you shoot,

0:49:18.840 --> 0:49:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you're not like, oh, so I'm not guilty, completely guilty here.

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:25.840
<v Speaker 1>So just because he's unsuccessful and getting these women to

0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:29.439
<v Speaker 1>respond or do something doesn't mean that he is innocent here.

0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:33.719
<v Speaker 1>This is a great example of conditional self worth. Right,

0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:37.279
<v Speaker 1>I feel good about myself if and only if or

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:40.920
<v Speaker 1>if multiple women are interested in me, having conversations with me,

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:46.360
<v Speaker 1>flirting with me, and he needs that external validation, huge,

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:48.719
<v Speaker 1>huge red flag. He needs to get some work, he

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 1>needs to get some therapy to address what is going on,

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 1>because here's the thing right now, it's this, But this

0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:56.839
<v Speaker 1>is definitely one of those things where he's gonna need more.

0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:58.720
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna need more, he's gonna need more. And if

0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:01.840
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't address it out, um, he's not even going

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to realize that he's he's relying on these external validation

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:08.560
<v Speaker 1>from these these other women in order to feel good

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 1>about himself again. This is the beginning of the relationship,

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:13.000
<v Speaker 1>your your year in. You're supposed to be in your

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:14.839
<v Speaker 1>best behavior. This is when you're supposed to be most

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:17.440
<v Speaker 1>in love, right and if if that's not happening, if

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:22.839
<v Speaker 1>he's dropping you all and texting me right now immediately afterwards,

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:25.759
<v Speaker 1>he didn't even wait, I gotta I gotta say this too.

0:50:25.800 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Anonymous at one point near the end of the email,

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 1>says he wants to stay together, says he still loves

0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:31.920
<v Speaker 1>me and wants to move forward from this. This is

0:50:31.920 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 1>actually one of my biggest gripes with dating in today's

0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 1>day and age is people throw the word love around

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:38.920
<v Speaker 1>all the time, and they don't have the actions to

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:41.239
<v Speaker 1>back it up. They say it because they like how

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:43.600
<v Speaker 1>it sounds, they like the implications of it, but they're

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:46.240
<v Speaker 1>not willing to act like they're actually in love. Uh.

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:49.480
<v Speaker 1>And we see it all the time with kids, especially kids,

0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, like late teenagers are early twenty

0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 1>year olds. He's saying he loves you, but he's not

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:55.960
<v Speaker 1>acting like he loves you. And that's the biggest issue,

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 1>because someone that actually loves you wouldn't be doing that. Here.

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 1>See others being anonymous that I need you to hear.

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 1>We want you to hear you are worthy of having

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 1>someone who is devoted to you, and that is not

0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 1>who this guy is. I know. We all want to

0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 1>be in love, right People want to be in relationships.

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:14.319
<v Speaker 1>We want to be comfortable. We want to have that

0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:17.319
<v Speaker 1>person we can rely on. You cannot rely on him

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:20.879
<v Speaker 1>right now. So realize that you are worth much more

0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:23.920
<v Speaker 1>than this. If you are being devoted to him. You

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:25.960
<v Speaker 1>deserve a man who's going to be devoted to you.

0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:28.040
<v Speaker 1>And that's not what you're getting here. It's taking the

0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>thought process there. Hey, she's going to a town. Let's

0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:33.239
<v Speaker 1>see who can I text? Who can I message? You?

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Can I DM like he's thinking all of that as

0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you're as you're driving to the airport. It's not good.

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe his excuse was, oh, yeah, this is

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 1>something I've done on and off through all my relationships,

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Like what this is his normal? Is very concerned. That's

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:52.480
<v Speaker 1>a big red flight that this is his normal and anonymous.

0:51:52.520 --> 0:51:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I I agree with the doctor, like he's got a

0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:57.799
<v Speaker 1>lot of things that he needs to work through. And

0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that like you guys can't throw them together,

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:05.360
<v Speaker 1>but things need to change, uh significantly in my opinion.

0:52:05.560 --> 0:52:07.839
<v Speaker 1>And then used to start with him acknowledging that this

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:10.279
<v Speaker 1>is not okay because he has justified it and he

0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:12.839
<v Speaker 1>is not. He's not saying it's not okay. He's saying

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:14.920
<v Speaker 1>it's something that he just does. I totally agree. And

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:17.320
<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't acknowledge that this is something that's not okay,

0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:19.920
<v Speaker 1>then that might be the reason you need to get

0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:22.960
<v Speaker 1>out of the relationship. Well, Dr, thank you so much

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:25.799
<v Speaker 1>for joining us today. You're the best. We really appreciate it.

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, I appreciate it, and g thanks you too.

0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:33.240
<v Speaker 1>So make sure everybody goes check out Dr Elizabeth Lombardo.

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:36.160
<v Speaker 1>You can go to Elizabeth Lombardo dot com for more

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:40.480
<v Speaker 1>uh information. Do you have Instagram, Twitter all that good stuff?

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Hi Instagram, Dr E b Doctor Dr E. Lombardo, And

0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 1>so make sure everybody follow Dr E. Lombardo. Make sure

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you follow Dean Anglers still Deanie Babies. Yeah, thanks, Thanks Terry.

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:56.400
<v Speaker 1>You follow Mark two, but he's private. You have to

0:52:56.400 --> 0:53:01.000
<v Speaker 1>request him. Uh. And thank you so much for Alyssa,

0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Ali and Diana for coming on the podcast today. We

0:53:03.600 --> 0:53:05.480
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate it. That was a lot of fun. Next

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 1>week we're gonna definitely talk about um, the New York

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Times article that we talked about the first to reset

0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:13.719
<v Speaker 1>in your relationship. We have to get to the next five.

0:53:13.760 --> 0:53:15.439
<v Speaker 1>But we just had such a good podcast we didn't

0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:18.839
<v Speaker 1>have time, um to be anything else, buddy, that's right.

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Uh No, I just wanted to thank all the listeners again.

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