Speaker 1: He is drink champs, motherfucky podcast man. He's a legendary
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Speaker 2: He's a Miami hipp hop lioneer. Put up as d
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Speaker 1: Very day is New Year's Csten.
Speaker 2: It's time for drink champions.
Speaker 1: Drink up, motherfuck mother? Would it good? Be hoping he
Speaker 1: should be?
Speaker 2: This your boy in O r E.
Speaker 3: Put up his dj E f N. This is Jillammy great.
Speaker 3: This man has been in movies, he hasn't been. He
Speaker 3: has records from everybody from Gags the Bull, to Uchie
Speaker 3: Man to motherfucking Eminem. He still sells out tolls. He
Speaker 3: said he pulled up in the coloring and he came early.
Speaker 3: I fucking respect the shit out of that. We are
Speaker 3: going to have some fun today. We're gonna drink some whiskey.
Speaker 3: We heard he's a whiskey guy. See he got the
Speaker 3: American spirits over there.
Speaker 1: Yo sunny dpt in casey yo yellow Oh yeah, yellow back, yeah,
Speaker 1: yellow so Megan.
Speaker 3: Now Alabama but Tennessee. Yeah, how does that go together?
Speaker 3: I was born in Alabama, Uh huh.
Speaker 4: Then I moved to I actually moved to Antioch, so
Speaker 4: I grew up in the same hood jelly roll, Wow Struggle.
Speaker 4: So Antioch when I was about seven and I lived
Speaker 4: there from seven to fifteen years old, and then to Atlanta, Georgia,
Speaker 4: and back to Alabama. And so basically Alabama, Georgia Tennessee
Speaker 4: was Wow feeding grounds, so to speak.
Speaker 3: So when I listen to your music, I do hear
Speaker 3: a taste of Atlanta.
Speaker 4: Now it makes sense. That's where it popped. Atlanta is
Speaker 4: where I had to go to Atlanta to get it going.
Speaker 4: You made cho yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I linked up with Sea.
Speaker 4: Bear, Kawan Prayther, with Ghetto Vision and Jeremy Jones, and
Speaker 4: early on it was Maley the producer did Blonde Channel Orange.
Speaker 4: So we were out there making noise and that's where
Speaker 4: I got my chops up. You know, I had to
Speaker 4: get out of Alabama to go get heard. Okay, So
Speaker 4: I was on the streets for a while, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, slinging tapes out the trunk, doing that hour Alabama.
Speaker 3: What does the music seem like in Alabama, it's more country.
Speaker 1: It's changed a lot.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: The best way to describe the kind of neighborhood lifestyle
Speaker 4: that I grew up in is like hustle and.
Speaker 1: Flow, like visually Memphis pretty much just like that. Actually
Speaker 1: exactly like that Box Chevy's.
Speaker 3: You know, just you know, creepy little a song called
Speaker 3: box Chevy too.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm on number eight right now, actually on
Speaker 4: on War Stories album, the double album we just released
Speaker 4: Box Chevy Part eight.
Speaker 2: I got a Killer Mic is on it.
Speaker 4: Killer Mic and Bob Styles and so yeah, we got
Speaker 4: a whole series of Box Chevy record I think.
Speaker 3: I think that's what's one of one of the most
Speaker 3: unique thing about you is no one can put you
Speaker 3: in a box.
Speaker 1: Like I can't say.
Speaker 3: Uh uh, Like if I hear you on a song
Speaker 3: with somebody, I'm not shocked because I feel like you
Speaker 3: can do any anything. I feel like that's that's like
Speaker 3: more your style. It's like, it's not that's what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, my my my manager and I, you know,
Speaker 4: we got a thing like creatively schizophrenic, professionally bipolar. You
Speaker 4: know that that's pretty you know, like being able to
Speaker 4: weave in and out of styles, and my consistency is literal,
Speaker 4: really my inconsistency, you know what I mean. I like
Speaker 4: to change, I like to explore a lot of shit
Speaker 4: and uh yeah, you know, I don't put boundaries on creativity.
Speaker 2: Never. Who were those early influences, like did were there
Speaker 2: local artists in Alabama? And then when you when you
Speaker 2: went to Atlanta. I'm sure that that really influenced you
Speaker 2: that whole scene. Who were those early influences?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, well, I mean it seems fantastical or unbelievable, but
Speaker 4: my mother's first long term boyfriend who did light and
Speaker 4: sound for Alabama, Ted NuGen Rio, Speedwagon ten thousand maniacs,
Speaker 4: uh and then Aerosmith.
Speaker 1: During the walk this way towards it is a true story.
Speaker 4: WHOA. I was six years old living in Alabama and
Speaker 4: Fort Payne and it was a dry county.
Speaker 3: So during the walk yeah, okay, okay, yeah, So before
Speaker 3: you finished that story, what should I do?
Speaker 1: Drink some whiskey? Yeah, whiskey, let's get just from Jo whisky.
Speaker 2: Going all right?
Speaker 1: Well, so.
Speaker 4: Since it was a dry county, but my mom, my
Speaker 4: mom and her boyfriend, they held the party down all
Speaker 4: the time, you know, late parties whatever. So literally the
Speaker 4: run DMC crew and Aerosmith came to our house, brought
Speaker 4: me my ideas merch, my Idea's tapes, licensed to Ill Tapes,
Speaker 4: Beastie Boy tape. So that was that was my first Hey,
Speaker 4: this is hip hop. At the time, it wasn't like, yo,
Speaker 4: this is hip hop. I've just given music because like
Speaker 4: in the music business, you get swagged all the time.
Speaker 4: It's a bunch of free shit here on the road.
Speaker 4: So that's how it fell into my world. The actual
Speaker 4: sound of hip hop. Up until that point, you know,
Speaker 4: it was all classic rock and country. But it wasn't
Speaker 4: until I moved to Nashville, Tennessee, where the culture of
Speaker 4: hip hop started to make sense, you know, like in
Speaker 4: the streets. But my early influence, I was just surrounded
Speaker 4: by music. I was very you know, like to like
Speaker 4: five years old. They would throw parties all the time,
Speaker 4: but they would just throw me in the basement. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because my mother was you know, I had a relationship.
Speaker 4: His name was John Orchard, and the company was called
Speaker 4: Electric Tech. So its lighting sound roadies. All them guys,
Speaker 4: they all roll together, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They party, Oh yeah, yeah, for real.
Speaker 4: And then so I would be down in the basement
Speaker 4: my uncle now uncle David, David Zammitt, who was also
Speaker 4: a sound engineer for a lot of big bands he
Speaker 4: did like June jam for like Dwight Yoakam and Alabama,
Speaker 4: Travis Tritt, all all those country guys, but he did programming.
Speaker 4: So there was an SP twelve hundred in the basement,
Speaker 4: and like they would put me down on the SP
Speaker 4: twelve hundred in the basement, I would be smacking around
Speaker 4: on that, you know what I mean, while they were
Speaker 4: partying and shit. So but it was all toy ish
Speaker 4: to me, you know, but the seeds were being laid,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean to you know, by the
Speaker 4: time I got to Nashville and picked up skateboarding and
Speaker 4: got in the graffiti scene, you know. Then then then
Speaker 4: hip hop was just like a tsunami, right, you know,
Speaker 4: it just started flooding into my life. So it was
Speaker 4: natural for me to pull all those influences and try
Speaker 4: to figure it out. It was took a lot long time, though,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, to figure out that sound
Speaker 4: long time.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I heard you use the phrase country hip hop was
Speaker 3: a hip hop country.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm not a big fan of country rap,
Speaker 4: you know. Like, to be quite honest, I don't. I
Speaker 4: don't believe in that genre.
Speaker 1: I don't. I just think that like the genre.
Speaker 4: I think that hip hop is whatever you make of it,
Speaker 4: because it's it's a sample bassed music. So if you
Speaker 4: want to do sitars in your record, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, or if you want to sample a banjo,
Speaker 4: or if you want to pull from this and pull
Speaker 4: for that, hip hop can be you know.
Speaker 1: It's a stew of anything that you you know, absolutely,
Speaker 1: a lot of people like they try to put a.
Speaker 4: They put things into a box and try to compartmentalize
Speaker 4: each style.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a marketing scheme to yeah. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, man, it's just really
Speaker 1: hip hop.
Speaker 2: And you know it's to me.
Speaker 4: You got hip hop, country, rock and roll, blues, you know,
Speaker 4: those can be compartmentalized, but within hip hop itself. I
Speaker 4: just I've always believed in you know, hip hop, hip hop.
Speaker 4: You know, like it's just your style. What is your style?
Speaker 4: This is my style, this is how I do it.
Speaker 3: Now you started to beat between Machine Gun Kelly and
Speaker 3: eminem Right, No, I didn't start.
Speaker 1: People don't know people. It's not us.
Speaker 3: The people here doesn't allow cigarettes.
Speaker 1: So you drinking supposed to read again? Respect, No, let's
Speaker 1: go back to it. But this is a woman that
Speaker 1: I heard. I heard it.
Speaker 3: It was your record, machine Gun. Kelly is supposed to
Speaker 3: get on it, or he got on it. He sent
Speaker 3: it to M and M drops a disc record. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's pretty much what happened.
Speaker 1: Well, so you didn't know that they had like a
Speaker 1: little little things going.
Speaker 4: I can't say that I was fully blind to some
Speaker 4: sort of there was something in the air, but honestly,
Speaker 4: DJ Paul, my brother Field, Yeah, we were in uh.
Speaker 4: We were in Nashville working on Trump Music, Trump.
Speaker 1: Music three, and he was like it was his idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was like, bro, I got this,
Speaker 1: I got this rowdy beat.
Speaker 4: If I could get you Kel's and Marshall on this ship,
Speaker 4: it'll be out of here. It would be the craziest
Speaker 4: three white boys on the record that's ever been heard.
Speaker 1: That record, still record. That was his whole thing. I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I mean, fuck it out, let's let's go.
Speaker 4: So I lay it made my verse, sent it to
Speaker 4: UH to Kel's and Kells was super excited. I told
Speaker 4: him the whole, the whole idea of it. I pitched him, Okay, man,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get Marshall on this record. Paul produced it.
Speaker 4: It'll be nuts if we can make this happen. So
Speaker 4: I recorded it, Kells recorded his verse, sent it to Marshall.
Speaker 4: Crickets Crickets for months, I don't know how long. All
Speaker 4: I knew I knew from then I was like, I
Speaker 4: don't know, man, I didn't I didn't know there was
Speaker 4: a disc record coming.
Speaker 1: But right, you're on Shady at the same Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: on Shady. Yeah, this is some exciting ship contiguous.
Speaker 2: I'm on Shady and.
Speaker 4: And I've got I got this record coming out on Shady.
Speaker 4: I mean like it's you know, it's a thing. It's
Speaker 4: a Shady release. He puts this disc record out and
Speaker 4: you have no idea.
Speaker 1: I have no clue.
Speaker 4: I had no one saw, no, he didn't say shit
Speaker 4: to anyone. And I'm sitting here with this record. It's
Speaker 4: me Paul Kells, and I'm like, oh, man, what the
Speaker 4: fuck am I gonna do?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying because I was like that.
Speaker 4: Within an hour of it hitting the internet, Kell's face
Speaker 4: times me wow, And I picked up the face time
Speaker 4: and Kel's going He's just shaking his head like, nah, man, nah,
Speaker 4: I'm not having it. Yeah exactly, he was like nah.
Speaker 4: I was like, hey, I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: I honestly like, at this point, I don't know what
Speaker 4: to do. I don't know what to tell you. I
Speaker 4: haven't spoken to Marshall.
Speaker 1: But you know, like I, you know, do what you do.
Speaker 4: I guess you want to man up and go go there,
Speaker 4: then go go there. But I can't tell you what's
Speaker 4: gonna happen with you and me. But you know, meaning
Speaker 4: I couldn't. I couldn't tell him like this may turn
Speaker 4: into a problem with me and you like because I
Speaker 4: told him that. Well yeah, I mean I was like,
Speaker 4: dog if you know, like I was with Shady, so
Speaker 4: if the general says go, let's go but yeah, so
Speaker 4: like but but so, I mean, but I'm saying that's
Speaker 4: my gang, you know, I was Shady Records, so respect.
Speaker 1: So I finally got Marshall on the phone.
Speaker 3: After I love how you called on Marshall, by the way,
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: I know it's eminem yeah, yeah, I always it's weird
Speaker 1: calling imminent. Marshall seems like we called the Marshal because
Speaker 1: I don't know him at all. I never met him.
Speaker 3: I've met him one time at the Hip Hop Summit
Speaker 3: and it was like we passed by, shook hands, and
Speaker 3: that was pretty pretty much it.
Speaker 1: Uh in Detroit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I could tell you that I was the
Speaker 4: only human probably alive with both of them on the
Speaker 4: phone during that whole.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, you going too fast, hold hold on on.
Speaker 3: So when m called, you got him and.
Speaker 1: You're separately were talking about okay, okay. I thought you
Speaker 1: had the three way going.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: I only had a couple of conversations with Marshall.
Speaker 4: And but when I did talk to Marshall, I was
Speaker 4: in Toronto, and this is after after he had released
Speaker 4: the record.
Speaker 1: And then mg K drops his ship and he drops
Speaker 1: that line, you know.
Speaker 4: Something about don't take me off yellow album, Don't take
Speaker 4: me off Yellows album.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, you took him with the album.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, okay, So I caught.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I caught Marshall basically like like listen, man.
Speaker 4: Obviously I got the utmost respect for Marshall, and I
Speaker 4: was like, listen, I like this song.
Speaker 1: I got with l Kel's, you know, and and like
Speaker 1: I had a beat with Kel's early early on. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't get along.
Speaker 4: Well I took I you know, I just I addressed
Speaker 4: it on bootleg keV, like if you want it, let's go,
Speaker 4: like I'm with it. I'm with it, I'm with the
Speaker 4: bullshit whatever. But I met him, we handled it, we
Speaker 4: squashed it. It's all good. And that was years years ago,
Speaker 4: so opportunity to come around to do a record, I
Speaker 4: was with it and we've since become good friends.
Speaker 2: That's my dog, you know.
Speaker 1: Wow. So I was like, what do you want me
Speaker 1: to do? The as marshall, you know, what what do
Speaker 1: we do?
Speaker 2: What do you want me to do?
Speaker 4: And he said to me, man, put that ship out.
Speaker 4: People need to hear it. People need to hear that.
Speaker 4: So he kept it that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he respected my career during all of.
Speaker 2: This, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, was that because he thought it was
Speaker 1: that good of a record or just out of.
Speaker 4: I think the situation respect for me and knowing that
Speaker 4: I didn't know, like I know if he had dissed
Speaker 4: mg K. And then I went and afterwards did a
Speaker 4: record with him. You know that would be fucked up,
Speaker 4: but that's not how it happened.
Speaker 2: So I was just fucking in the middle, like fucking.
Speaker 3: White boy Jesus or something, because I think I her
Speaker 3: game say that he thought that machine gun Kelly drink drinks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take some creek water. By the way, this
Speaker 1: is my best ship, ride my Whiskey brand creek water.
Speaker 1: This is this is our cinnamon. We got the O
Speaker 1: G one proof and this is our brand. Give him
Speaker 1: a new cup though, our brand new one. Smoke peach.
Speaker 1: Oh you're making it over there, okay, okay, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you got it. Okay, you got it?
Speaker 3: So which one is that? What's the look up? What
Speaker 3: was that cinnamon? You also did the movie right Along.
Speaker 1: Ride Along?
Speaker 7: Nah?
Speaker 5: Did I?
Speaker 1: It's in your google's right Along? Yeah, we did a
Speaker 1: movie called ride Along.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, right along with Now that's that's
Speaker 4: a docu. That's a document series with put Homeboy from.
Speaker 1: Uh the Evil Dead. He does the I ribe motorcycle,
Speaker 1: I ride Harley. You look like you ribe most cycles?
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, just back.
Speaker 5: Was like like.
Speaker 1: Feels like that. You can look at him and say, yo,
Speaker 1: he owns a holly.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: That's funny. Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: What's his name?
Speaker 4: I feel I'm terrible, terrible with names, even celebrities is horrible.
Speaker 4: Y'all know who the dude is, the head guy from
Speaker 4: from Evil Dead the shows.
Speaker 1: You're looking at him like he's gonna come over.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 4: So I did do that series with him. It was
Speaker 4: me and me, him and Marilyn Manson. Wow during that.
Speaker 4: During that, uh so, I just take him around. I
Speaker 4: took him around Nashville and the Harley and showed him
Speaker 4: the city and you know, I did the thing. But
Speaker 4: the first and only movie I've done officially is Peanut
Speaker 4: Butter Falcon.
Speaker 3: I was getting to that ahead, skipped my interview ahead.
Speaker 3: I got it right, head talk about it twenty nineteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean it's the only film that
Speaker 4: I've done officially. I've been in a series here and there.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so Peanut Butterfalcon shot at Savannah, Georgia. Story
Speaker 4: by this kid with Down syndrome who escapes. He escaped
Speaker 4: the retirement home. People don't know. This is a real
Speaker 4: law in America. If a child with Down syndrome doesn't
Speaker 4: have a family to take care of him. They put
Speaker 4: him in a retirement home.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Damn, that's a real thing. A kid. Wow.
Speaker 4: And they put him on the government custody at a
Speaker 4: retirement home as well. So the director Tyler became best
Speaker 4: friends with this kid, Zach And in real life, I
Speaker 4: wrote the story about him. So this kid escapes the
Speaker 4: retirement home and he's set out. He sets out to
Speaker 4: become a professional wrestler. And he's you know, there's this
Speaker 4: wrestler in the film Saltwater Redneck.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Let's go.
Speaker 1: We got to get the ship going. Bro drink, let's
Speaker 1: go waiting on you chaerish, Let's do it. Let's do
Speaker 1: a shot. Okay, I'm I'm man. Let's off.
Speaker 2: We can start quickly.
Speaker 1: You want to do that one?
Speaker 3: But no, everybody, they make this in a tub and kindle.
Speaker 3: You don't want none of that. Don't don't don't, don't.
Speaker 3: Don't drink of that before we get to that.
Speaker 1: Let me do you did you hear? Do you hear
Speaker 1: glow Whiler? Yeah? Glow?
Speaker 2: You heard that record? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Don't remind you of your record? Don't you got a
Speaker 1: record with with Boots? Rest in Peace?
Speaker 4: I got something for you guys By the way. Okay,
Speaker 4: I got Boot. Lola was my sister, Like she's.
Speaker 1: A great person. Yes, rest in Peace also was on
Speaker 1: Drink Chaps Listen, I got you okay.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, So Lola and I were so cool and Paul,
Speaker 4: but Lola like we were so like she talked to
Speaker 4: my mom like once a week.
Speaker 1: Wow type of ship, like we were family fans.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my girl, man, And I remember.
Speaker 4: You know, one of my first shows, I know, actually
Speaker 4: my very first like real gangster rap show was three
Speaker 4: six Mafia Mystical at the Atrium in nineteen ninety seven. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and uh in Atlanta, Georgia. And years later I would
Speaker 4: meet Boo and I don't remember. I think it might
Speaker 4: have been south By Southwest.
Speaker 1: That's what I measure actually really well. Boot.
Speaker 4: We became fast friends and ended up doing this song
Speaker 4: eminem we throw it up, Yeah, throw it. I put
Speaker 4: her on the record with Marshall, which fucked everybody up.
Speaker 3: By the way.
Speaker 1: That was a weird combination, but we didn't get it.
Speaker 1: It worked.
Speaker 4: It worked, but you know, we were ahead of it.
Speaker 4: We were ahead of the time with that shit. Like
Speaker 4: we called a real pocket during that project. That now
Speaker 4: it's like it is the pocket everybody's pocket. But rest
Speaker 4: in peace, Lola, and listen. I brought this my homeboy,
Speaker 4: John Newport fing I believe you know him.
Speaker 1: John Newport, he must smoke Newports. He gave me this,
Speaker 1: Lola awardless at the drink shit Holy ship.
Speaker 4: This was Lola's drink, rag Man. It was gifted to
Speaker 4: me as a good omen for the show, Oh, Lolas.
Speaker 1: Was And I want you to.
Speaker 3: I want you to check that record out because I
Speaker 3: almost it almost sounds identical to the two records. And
Speaker 3: I think that Glorilla was trying to big you up though.
Speaker 3: I think that's what that record is. But she just
Speaker 3: put it to her name though, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So check it out though, because it sounds very, very
Speaker 3: very similar. All right, we're gonna do the great Thomas Live.
Speaker 1: These flowers flowers, Well, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 3: You know, our show was about giving people their flowers
Speaker 3: while they hear. You know, so many people want to
Speaker 3: give people when they gone. We want to give you
Speaker 3: face to face man, the man tell you how great
Speaker 3: you better than the Grammy, So you know we wanted
Speaker 3: to get you. But if you're gonna do a great
Speaker 3: time time. I'm just doing a shot though. At least
Speaker 3: come on, you know we.
Speaker 1: Do quick are you guys? Are ready? Not ready?
Speaker 2: Jesus?
Speaker 1: All right, So just so you know, this is amazing man,
Speaker 1: thank you. When we when we make up.
Speaker 3: These games, it's the Dominican and the Columbia right here
Speaker 3: who comes up.
Speaker 1: With these questions. So if they horrible questions, just just
Speaker 1: just just yell at them. It's okay, it's okay. They're
Speaker 1: used to it, all right. Yes, we're taking a shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 3: Let's let's because they're not ready yet. Okay, cool, thought
Speaker 3: he was ready. Okay, I'm going peach baby. All right,
Speaker 3: let me you know what I got the first question
Speaker 3: for a quick time. Yes, yes, I got the first question.
Speaker 2: Let's go and this.
Speaker 3: I'm so curious how you're gonna answer this morning?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Independent or major independent? I was wrong?
Speaker 2: How would you have thought anything else?
Speaker 1: Because I heard you waight up, waight up, wad up? Okay,
Speaker 1: huh all right, yeah, that's theF in jobs to the rules.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I'll tell you why you can't know
Speaker 1: why independent solo solo cheers, cheers, sello, cheers, fam y'all
Speaker 1: feel free to take shots. Shot glass, get a bottle.
Speaker 3: That's the O G drink Champs shot glass which one money, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the original.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's already said. All right, cool, So I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what I tell you why independent. Have y'all seen
Speaker 1: y'all seen ways world? Yeah, of course I've seen ways. Well,
Speaker 1: everybody's seen everybody all right. You know that scene.
Speaker 4: You know, they've got this crazy underground show. It's doing great,
Speaker 4: everybody loves it. Everybody respects that they signed to this
Speaker 4: big major and then they show up to the studio
Speaker 4: and it's all commercialized and they're looking at each other like,
Speaker 4: what the fuck? They changed their jingle, they changed everything.
Speaker 4: That's me in a nutshell. When I signed to Interscope
Speaker 4: from in the beginning.
Speaker 3: Because you was sign an Interscope direct right first. It
Speaker 3: was in school, Jimmy, Jimmy, Yeah, it was Geffen Geffen
Speaker 3: Interscope Wow.
Speaker 4: And uh, you know, I this was right off of
Speaker 4: Trump music when Pop the Trunk was like blowing the
Speaker 4: fuck up.
Speaker 2: Trump Hue was blowing.
Speaker 4: The fuck up, and I and I was out there
Speaker 4: just like destroying south By Southwest.
Speaker 1: Still no major record label deal, you know, And they flew.
Speaker 4: Me from in school, in school, Jimmy flew me from
Speaker 4: literally from the stage to the airport to his living
Speaker 4: room and signed, Well, I had turned down multiple deals
Speaker 4: before that personally, No, not going you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: like for real, Like I had a real moment with
Speaker 4: La Reid.
Speaker 1: Wow, you know that was real. Seriously I could I'll
Speaker 1: tell you about that.
Speaker 4: But but let me get to the point why it's
Speaker 4: important independent if you can, if you can maintain, we
Speaker 4: got to talk.
Speaker 1: The thing is hindsight's twenty twenty, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But the amount of control that you have as an artist,
Speaker 4: as an independent, you can't put a price on that. Creatively,
Speaker 4: that that's it. And people, I know, everybody like trips
Speaker 4: out about.
Speaker 1: Money, money, money, money, money, you know.
Speaker 4: Business, marketing, marketing, market None of that means shit. If
Speaker 4: you ain't got good music, and if you can't close
Speaker 4: the doors to everything else and get in a fucking
Speaker 4: studio and make a jam, you're running circles. You're putting
Speaker 4: the cart before the horse. The music comes first, and
Speaker 4: so protecting that is sacred. Now once you once you,
Speaker 4: once you enter the major label system, that's gone. Everybody's
Speaker 4: in the studio. Everybody wants an everybody wants a piece
Speaker 4: of this that when I when I got signed and
Speaker 4: then moved over to shady, are you kidding me? When
Speaker 4: they heard Eminem signed a white Boy, people went crazy.
Speaker 4: Everybody wanted a piece of that much. A lot of
Speaker 4: pressure on you, a lot of pressure to listen. But
Speaker 4: because I signed up, Yeah, see, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: That's the difference between being independent. I ain't gonna answer
Speaker 4: to nobody, now, you know what I mean. I paid
Speaker 4: my dues, I did all my six albums. I fulfilled
Speaker 4: my contract with the major label system. I was so
Speaker 4: happy when I had the opportunity to go independent, right,
Speaker 4: and now you know, I released music when the fuck
Speaker 4: I want to. I make the music I want to.
Speaker 4: I make my art how I want to make my
Speaker 4: art visually? You know everything, you know, I ain't gotta wait. Like,
Speaker 4: here's the other part. You got a record, it is
Speaker 4: ready to come out, right, it's all primed up, it's mixed, mastered,
Speaker 4: the whole, the whole rollouts ready.
Speaker 2: And then they're like, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: See, but Kendrick's dropping his album, right man, you gotta wait,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you all. Being on
Speaker 1: in Scope was like being on the Yankees.
Speaker 3: So it's personal enough for every artist, remember not even
Speaker 3: I mean, but every artists get to play if you
Speaker 3: want the Yankees, Like if you get that one album
Speaker 3: on in the school, that's a blessing. Bro.
Speaker 1: That was like that label could not lose man.
Speaker 4: Well, that's because Jimmy's and Jimmy I yes, Jimmyson artists
Speaker 4: at heart, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like this dude was amazing Jimmy. I mean for Fleetwood Mac,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: What, Like he knows his ship.
Speaker 1: He's a legend in his all right. So like that
Speaker 1: that just goes along. But back to what you were saying.
Speaker 2: Ice Cube said something where he talking about like the
Speaker 2: Majors and in a conversation he said, it's music by committee,
Speaker 2: because that's what you're saying. There's too many people in
Speaker 2: the room, too many people in the studio kind of
Speaker 2: like I mean.
Speaker 1: When you're chasing a fucking hit, you're already fucking up.
Speaker 4: But if you walk into the studio and you're like,
Speaker 4: I'm making a hit today, Bro, you've already fucked up.
Speaker 4: You might as well go back home, go get some rest,
Speaker 4: watch a movie, get your mind out of that fucking
Speaker 4: space man.
Speaker 2: Guy who says I'm making the club record. I'm making
Speaker 2: this kind of record, this kind of record. What what
Speaker 2: are you talking about.
Speaker 1: Let's make a classic. Let's make that, make a classic.
Speaker 1: And if it's a hit, god bless you. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Great, you know I do know this.
Speaker 4: Like, once you do catch a hit quote unquote, the
Speaker 4: next records are more palatable to people, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's why what that word means, it's like easier
Speaker 1: for them. That's a big word for me, like that,
Speaker 1: it's easier for them to like it.
Speaker 4: They're used to the tape, okay, okay, okay, so they're
Speaker 4: used to hearing your voice. So like that's why you
Speaker 4: have like these repeated hits from these artists, because the
Speaker 4: public gets so used to their voice, right, and that
Speaker 4: hit gets easier, like being programmed radio.
Speaker 1: Basically, we just had insane clown posse on here. That's
Speaker 1: what's up. Oh god, I got the craziest stories about
Speaker 1: the fucking.
Speaker 2: About the gathering Are you kidding me? Been to the
Speaker 2: gathering dog?
Speaker 1: Why do the gathering ship?
Speaker 2: I'll take another shot for that. I've done three of them. Motherfuckers.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you something. Those ships are something else. Man.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you should go. Everybody should go once.
Speaker 9: And it's when you always tell me to witness that
Speaker 9: I don't want to go as Norri though.
Speaker 2: I want to go, like as a hoodie. And and
Speaker 2: they're true true to like fans. I mean, it's there's
Speaker 2: wild people in the juggle littlemunity. You know, they're true fans.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: That's why I don't go to south By Southwest is
Speaker 3: because I like my sneakers, like I've never.
Speaker 1: Left this peach okaye. You know, like you know I'm black.
Speaker 1: You know, we like to stick with we know, like
Speaker 1: the same exact thing.
Speaker 3: So you know what I'm just I'm sorry, man, So
Speaker 3: I'm scared of that ship. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna drink that off camera because take that shot
Speaker 3: later on later. Yeah, yes, yes, yes, thank you. It's okay, beautiful,
Speaker 3: you love this.
Speaker 1: Let me let me try to take one for the team.
Speaker 1: Goddamn it. It's great.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 3: He's making for liquors right now. He's on vodkas. Good,
Speaker 3: look at him.
Speaker 1: He's on vodka.
Speaker 3: Mama, want usually the beer the fruity stuff could funk
Speaker 3: with you though, the most.
Speaker 1: Drinkable whiskey that we make. Bro, this it's very good.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: Oh it's good. Yeah, it's good. You don't say that.
Speaker 1: No good. I can smell it. I can smell it,
Speaker 1: can smell. So all right, we were like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Juggal the Juggals. You want to
Speaker 1: talking about my experience? Yeah, I would love to hear
Speaker 1: your experience.
Speaker 4: We're tapping off on the major independent thing. We're moving
Speaker 4: to the ju Yes, okay, yes, yes, I hate okay, listen, dude.
Speaker 3: Okay, so my love being called dude, call me dude
Speaker 3: all night. I wanted to be like in the cool
Speaker 3: frat people call me dude like that. I've been called
Speaker 3: to think of my whole life.
Speaker 2: It's just different.
Speaker 1: Like I like being called dude. Uh yeah, taking another
Speaker 1: shop of that. Yeah, it's take a little shop story.
Speaker 2: But you get you want to drink?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get it. It's called the Juggalos.
Speaker 2: What's it called, Well, the gathering of the Juggal LODs
Speaker 2: is the festival, okay, jug the Juggles is the community.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, to the fans, okay, okay, so yeah, your experience.
Speaker 4: Uh So, my first trip to the Juggalo Fest, I draw,
Speaker 4: I drove my truck from Nashville because it's pretty close
Speaker 4: where they do it at their festival at So I
Speaker 4: pulled up backstage in my pickup truck, you know, and
Speaker 4: I but I had already got like I talked to
Speaker 4: Paul and he was like, hey, man, get ready, man,
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying. He's like, back your
Speaker 4: truck in to behind the stage in case you got
Speaker 4: to get the fuck out, Like it's like it's like that.
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, bet, and I did.
Speaker 1: So I drove my truck and I backed my truck
Speaker 1: up to the stairs where you walk up like my
Speaker 1: I could have jumped in my truck and got the
Speaker 1: fuck out if I needed to, you know. And okay, okay,
Speaker 1: this is another caveat I'm on Shady right and you
Speaker 1: know the beast in the story good.
Speaker 4: So, So I came up there like literally like literal
Speaker 4: soldier soldier mentality. I came out there to rep Shady.
Speaker 4: That was I was going hard and I wanted them
Speaker 4: to know immediately who I was with.
Speaker 1: Had you met people for that had you met in
Speaker 1: Seeing Clouds before that?
Speaker 5: Or no?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, we met backstage briefly, but that
Speaker 4: moment not before that event, okay, not before Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I walk out on stage first, you know, first time.
Speaker 4: Ever Shaddy records, Motherfucker Yello bof Chapish Billy, Let's fuck
Speaker 4: this ship up.
Speaker 1: And then bottle Rockets. They started throwing the bottle. They like,
Speaker 1: you hold on, they take the soda, the figure and
Speaker 1: they lost that ship.
Speaker 2: Now they do it. But but at first got to understand.
Speaker 4: That I hadn't even hit play on the first song,
Speaker 4: so I'm not all too sure that they liked me, yes,
Speaker 4: because all I knew was I look. I looked at
Speaker 4: DJ Clever, my DJ, and he goes, you motherfucker, like
Speaker 4: because I came in hot. So we but we want
Speaker 4: them over one song, two songs. But then they started
Speaker 4: like you're.
Speaker 1: Saying family, family, right, more bottle rock a little bottle rockets,
Speaker 1: And then I said, I bet you can't hit me,
Speaker 1: mother the fucker, and so I'm I'm dodging bottle rockets.
Speaker 4: I turned around in my DJ he's fucking dunking, and
Speaker 4: somebody throws a whole box of black cats on stage.
Speaker 1: Crackers, right, yeah, the firecrackers Black Cat fire crackers are
Speaker 1: like a whole pack, like a like a two hundred pack.
Speaker 1: Whoa something like a look serendipitous, serendipitous timing. Man.
Speaker 4: They threw it up and I was just about I had.
Speaker 4: I got a song called Capps Billy and it's real choppy,
Speaker 4: you know. Like so I'm like, right as it starts,
Speaker 4: it starts to pop.
Speaker 1: I'm like snapping over the.
Speaker 4: It's like going everything stop. Oh that was the best
Speaker 4: ship that connect It's like choreographed madness and so yeah,
Speaker 4: so needless to say, I didn't need to jump in
Speaker 4: my trunk and take off. Actually, after after I got stage,
Speaker 4: I went out in the crowd and walked around and
Speaker 4: shook hands and like broke down with everybody. And then
Speaker 4: like I think, I became like a like a crowd fade.
Speaker 4: They brought me back for a second year, but they
Speaker 4: started throwing more ship. The next year they threw they
Speaker 4: threw more ere.
Speaker 7: They threw mortarship mortars, bro what's more.
Speaker 2: Real mortar is a fucking bomb. But I don't know
Speaker 2: what kind of mortar.
Speaker 1: This is, dog Like, it's that ship you put in
Speaker 1: a big PBC pipe like it goes up like like
Speaker 1: the ship that they shoot up Atrendes like like this
Speaker 1: is I'm not going to this place. Yeah I ain't
Speaker 1: doing that.
Speaker 4: Walking the funk out yeah, so so bar like and
Speaker 4: then a bottle rocket like thank god I had on
Speaker 4: shades bro whoa but like bow right in ahead and
Speaker 4: it popped pop.
Speaker 1: That's foreman. But fuck man, they I would just if
Speaker 1: it was still lit, I'd throw it back, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like like like I was just in it.
Speaker 1: I was like, you're not getting there. I'm not leaving, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I'm here.
Speaker 4: You ain't right because I had heard they had heard
Speaker 4: people like like people like had like they had fucked
Speaker 4: people up, like.
Speaker 2: They're fucking each other up happily.
Speaker 1: And then he and they're paying the artist too, and
Speaker 1: some of these people launching.
Speaker 2: This but naked.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, so yeah, so survive, survive the mortars
Speaker 1: and ship. So that's the second time.
Speaker 4: That's the second time, third time, third time is the craziest,
Speaker 4: craziest dog the third time.
Speaker 1: Okay, so.
Speaker 4: Now I'm back, I'm I'm and I know because I
Speaker 4: know from the second time it got crazy. Earth than
Speaker 4: the first time that the third time it might really
Speaker 4: go ballistic.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I was like, so I need to walk out.
Speaker 4: There and a hazmat suits or some ship, like this
Speaker 4: is how I go to How am I going to
Speaker 4: do this one?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: I got an hour and fucking fifteen minutes to stand
Speaker 1: out here and and and figure this out.
Speaker 4: Dude, I walked out on stage. When I walk out here,
Speaker 4: my walking out first song, I feel like beastings all
Speaker 4: over my body, like like like like bees. It was
Speaker 4: like bees like stinging me, and but like I'm like
Speaker 4: trying to play it off, but I swore to God
Speaker 4: that I had got There was a swarm of bees
Speaker 4: like hitting me, but I kept I kept rocking, and
Speaker 4: then I and then I moved to the left and
Speaker 4: it stopped a little bit, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: they're they're hitting me with something.
Speaker 1: But I thought they were like throwing like tiny rocks
Speaker 1: or or some ship.
Speaker 4: And then it was like no, no, no, chicken wings
Speaker 4: And goddamn, somebody was throwing chicken wings over there.
Speaker 1: Hot dogs. I'm getting.
Speaker 4: Anything good, yo, like fucking like oh, and by the way,
Speaker 4: all that all that's going on, fucking two liters faygo bottle.
Speaker 1: Throwing up. But you know what I'm saying, I'm catching bottles.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's mad Max ship. It's mad Max Festial music music.
Speaker 1: So straight up though, So the whole show I'm getting pelted.
Speaker 1: So I start to figure out I gotta run to
Speaker 1: get away from these bees, like whatever the fuck is happening,
Speaker 1: I gotta get but the show must go on. One
Speaker 1: thing I do know, I can't leave. I can't leave
Speaker 1: the show. Bro. So after the show, it was that
Speaker 1: ship was so fucked up. It was the roidy show.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm stating.
Speaker 4: So finally I jump out my DJ got he he
Speaker 4: performs on top of the front of an old Chevrolet.
Speaker 4: It's illis fuck y'all love this ship. It's a crazy look.
Speaker 4: So i jump on the hood of the Chevy.
Speaker 1: And I'm standing you know for like you know, the
Speaker 1: peak of one of my records and.
Speaker 2: Fucking like huge.
Speaker 1: Wall, the balloon full of god knows what.
Speaker 3: Me and you know what because I stood still just
Speaker 3: long enough to get an aim on it.
Speaker 2: So anyway, bees bees bees.
Speaker 1: So after the after the show, I'm like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: what the fuck was It will be happening. They were
Speaker 1: just throwing someone ship out. No, no, it was actually
Speaker 1: be no listening to this ship. I'm risking this ship.
Speaker 4: There was about ten people with those high powered air
Speaker 4: rifles shooting plastic pellets at my going.
Speaker 1: Lighting my ass up the whole show.
Speaker 4: I'm not getting fucking fun, man, I'm I'm pelted up
Speaker 4: my fucking hey woo woo.
Speaker 1: And you stood there like a rockstar. Fuck you getting
Speaker 1: money back here? Think ship back?
Speaker 4: I love I love the Juggals, man, you know you
Speaker 4: know what? You know what it is really honestly, it's
Speaker 4: like you have ever seen that old footage of the
Speaker 4: Blues Brothers, whether they're traveling around, you perform behind a
Speaker 4: chicken wire.
Speaker 1: And if they like you, they'll throw bottles at you
Speaker 1: and ship.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's that same kind of ship as that old fucking
Speaker 1: ye I don't like that rowdy appreciate I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not it's a tough thing it is, but just like
Speaker 1: you know what, you sign up for it, and it's
Speaker 1: the fucking Jamaica. If they like you, they shoot in
Speaker 1: the air. I didn't like that either.
Speaker 3: The police. I get on the stage. The police said, hey, man,
Speaker 3: if they start looking shot, you're not move the police.
Speaker 8: What is this?
Speaker 3: And I got there, I did super duk what what what?
Speaker 3: And they start shooting. I'm looking at the police like,
Speaker 3: don't something. They're like they like you man, I'm not
Speaker 3: with none of this.
Speaker 1: The year that I went one of the years I
Speaker 1: went two times jugging jugger Nauts. I'm sorry. Rick Flair
Speaker 1: was hosting the main stage. We're about to go on with.
Speaker 2: Tech and I was managing made it and and I
Speaker 2: see Ric Flair run off the stage.
Speaker 1: He's like that ship.
Speaker 2: I heard, I heard they ran.
Speaker 1: Don't quote me on this, but I mean quote me
Speaker 1: on I don't care.
Speaker 4: I heard, uh they they did that ship to read
Speaker 4: a meth and they weren't having it. They they left there.
Speaker 4: They were eighty six. They dipped, and I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: you know it is what it is. I'm just like, look, dude,
Speaker 4: you can't. You can't be a white boy from Alabama
Speaker 4: covered in tattoos and fucking like doing hip hop and
Speaker 4: fucking like.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta represent you know. So it's like
Speaker 1: we need you if you need you, we need you,
Speaker 1: we need you because but you know you get it.
Speaker 2: You know you know what you signed up for, man,
Speaker 2: But yeah, if you don't know going into it that
Speaker 2: that could surprise the.
Speaker 4: Fun ship that goes on like ship dude, Strange Music down.
Speaker 4: Rich Dude, Yeah you know that.
Speaker 1: You know that happened. You know how that happened with
Speaker 1: Rich and Strange Me, dude, So well he's still your ar.
Speaker 1: So no, no, no, So I pulled.
Speaker 4: I found Rich in Atlanta, Georgia, and he was from
Speaker 4: Gwenett County and I saw him randomly at some open
Speaker 4: mic and I was just like, the fuck, this dude's
Speaker 4: sick with it, and I put.
Speaker 2: Him on.
Speaker 4: Uh, the original the Box Chavy Part two on the
Speaker 4: original Trump Music didn't sign him, didn't have an endprint
Speaker 4: at the time, which I do now is American did
Speaker 4: not have that at the time. And and at the time,
Speaker 4: this was the crew at Tree Sound Studios Atlanta. Rich,
Speaker 4: Big Crit, myself and even Killer Mike and LP were
Speaker 4: running around. This is like the very very early early
Speaker 4: stages of what would what would become Run the Jewels.
Speaker 4: So we had like a crazy crew around there, and
Speaker 4: Tech was coming around, and Tech had put me on
Speaker 4: Worldwide Shoppers and I said, dude, I got your guy man,
Speaker 4: I got the guy for you. I said, this dude
Speaker 4: needs to be He's strange man, for sure. He fits
Speaker 4: every he checks all the boxes for what y'all got
Speaker 4: going on. And I and I can't sign him. And
Speaker 4: so there it was, so Rich Rich signed to Strange
Speaker 4: Music and you know rest is history.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's dope and he's worked with Medea actually being there.
Speaker 1: We're on the Strange Music tip.
Speaker 2: I saw an interview big Okay, sorry you don't know.
Speaker 2: I saw interview did with Bootleg keV, and I was imagining,
Speaker 2: like I mentioned, the group may Day. They produced the
Speaker 2: song Fragile for Tech that had Kendrick.
Speaker 1: Can I take Let's go?
Speaker 2: Man? I know you said, but I want to hear
Speaker 2: it because we were all like, damn, that would have
Speaker 2: been dope.
Speaker 1: If you would have gone on the record. Take another shot.
Speaker 1: I just like the energy. Take another work. Just what
Speaker 1: are we doing? Whatever you got? Shot? Still bottle go.
Speaker 2: They trying to put one of those little things in it,
Speaker 2: those little candy that you brought. They try to put
Speaker 2: those candies you brought.
Speaker 1: You got you gotta leave my babies over here with me.
Speaker 1: No sipp water shots for you. That's the reason why
Speaker 1: but then he gonna think Candy is gonna go now.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, you know, I just need just bring
Speaker 1: me to.
Speaker 2: Sal You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got me all right, you know what cheers and
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this?
Speaker 2: Don't take it?
Speaker 1: So salute, Salute, drink Champs. So you know what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. The song.
Speaker 2: So may Day produced this record for Tech nine that
Speaker 2: feature Kendrick called frad It became.
Speaker 1: A huge record and it was rumored that you were
Speaker 1: supposed to be on it.
Speaker 2: Well that's a fact.
Speaker 1: So Tech hit me. Man the Tech hit me and
Speaker 1: he said, I got this record called Fragile.
Speaker 2: And I listened to the beat.
Speaker 4: I booked a studio in Nashville, true story, at Blackbird
Speaker 4: Studios Studio H. I know exactly where I was at Nashville, Tennessee.
Speaker 4: I had booked the whole time to go dedicate myself
Speaker 4: to record this verse. And I couldn't wrap my mind
Speaker 4: around feeling fragile. I just could not make myself.
Speaker 1: You can't bring yourself to that record of that wouldn't
Speaker 1: bring myself to write a verse.
Speaker 4: I couldn't make it make sense to me to talk
Speaker 4: about feeling fragile or being fragile about my music, which
Speaker 4: I am maybe you know what I'm saying. At the
Speaker 4: same time, fuck you, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 4: there's that there was that part like.
Speaker 1: You like my ship. I mean, I don't give a fuck,
Speaker 1: you know, like fuck it. But then at the same time,
Speaker 1: you know someone's talks about your record, You're like, damn,
Speaker 1: you don't like me, dog.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: It's like Texas in the record exactly. But some time
Speaker 4: I was just like in this very like militant mode.
Speaker 4: I had just recorded, like I was just out of
Speaker 4: love story moving into this other phase.
Speaker 10: And.
Speaker 4: And I didn't record it. And I was like, man,
Speaker 4: I just don't got it. Man, I don't know what's
Speaker 4: happening to it. I just don't have anything for this.
Speaker 4: And then Hendrick and the next thing, I fucking oh,
Speaker 4: they're on Saturday Night Live record and I was like, fuck,
Speaker 4: what an idiot should but shout out Kendrick and and
Speaker 4: and and tech Man. They've always showed me my entire career.
Speaker 4: I remember doing shows with Kendrick at like little college
Speaker 4: shows in Atlanta, Georgia, you know what I mean, and.
Speaker 1: Watching both of them just explode and you know it is.
Speaker 4: I've had some classic moments man, And matter of fact,
Speaker 4: this is a big shout out to Kendrick Lamore. I
Speaker 4: was in Hollywood on Sunset Boulevard on the sidewalk, just
Speaker 4: standing outside smoking a cigarette, having a drink, and there
Speaker 4: was this fucking parade coming down Sunset.
Speaker 1: There was a big stage on wheels right, and then
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, fuck Kendricks. Kendrick's doing a moving show.
Speaker 1: And then behind him were a bunch of people running
Speaker 1: like chasing you remember that I did this thing. Dog.
Speaker 4: He rides by in the middle of his set and
Speaker 4: looks left and what up like like shouted me out,
Speaker 4: like in the middle of his verse.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a moment, and like I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: it was like a moment.
Speaker 4: It was like it was just I couldn't It was
Speaker 4: so much respect, you know what I mean, likes something
Speaker 4: I'll never I'll never ever forget that man, Like he
Speaker 4: did not have to do that. It was just like
Speaker 4: it hit him, you know what I mean. And he
Speaker 4: in the middle of his set like what it was
Speaker 4: And I did not mean I was not there to watch, bro.
Speaker 4: I was like I had walked outside smoking a cigarette,
Speaker 4: like like next to Rainbow Room or some ship. You know,
Speaker 4: there's a genuine moment, genuine shout out Kendrick and shout
Speaker 4: out and shout out take Nne for always showing love
Speaker 4: and support. And man, I'm genuinely upset at myself. I
Speaker 4: didn't get on that record. Officially, I'm saying I fucked up.
Speaker 4: There's another record that I funked up and didn't get on.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it, Run the Jewels, which I had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get on the Run the Jewels record,
Speaker 1: and I was in the middle of the recording, uh
Speaker 1: trunk music.
Speaker 4: I was starting to feel it. I can't believe you
Speaker 4: can't smoke cigarettes in there some bullship take a break.
Speaker 3: At one moment, looking at him, he's a cigarette smoker.
Speaker 3: He overdy agreeing with you.
Speaker 1: Cigarettes and good drink, good conversation. We got you got
Speaker 1: wet water. Yes, I had an opportunity to do a
Speaker 1: record with Killer and the LP, and I've been in
Speaker 1: an LP fan since death. Jucks, I've been on l P.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And you know.
Speaker 4: This whole why MC ship I've always thought was really corny,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, are you a good
Speaker 4: mc or not like oh he's a good white boy,
Speaker 4: like out of here, I'm better than you period, you know,
Speaker 4: like and you know, but I will say as a
Speaker 4: young artist, you know, being a white boy looking at
Speaker 4: other artists above me that were white. You know, LP
Speaker 4: was like my top top top you know that company
Speaker 4: flow Yeah, like deaf Chuck's like, you know, like I
Speaker 4: was like, this is how it's done. You know, we
Speaker 4: just slide in there. You don't say ship. You know,
Speaker 4: you don't mention who you are, you know, none of that.
Speaker 4: You know, other people put those labels on here.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's like all right, white boy cool, all right, well
Speaker 4: I'm gonna run with that. Then all Rednegg or you
Speaker 4: white boy Rednegg, Okay call me all right, it is
Speaker 4: what it is, you know what I mean. But I
Speaker 4: don't know where I'm going with this, but I fucking fuck.
Speaker 1: It, fuck it. Let's do you know?
Speaker 3: You know one thing before you get into quick Time
Speaker 3: of Slim, something that I admire about you is your relationships.
Speaker 3: Right I look at I look at you. You work
Speaker 3: with uh kid kid Rock.
Speaker 2: I'm just hold this.
Speaker 1: You imagine I've done that before.
Speaker 3: So you got kid Rock, Kid Rock, who kind of
Speaker 3: like has beef with Insane Clown Possey, but you're cool
Speaker 3: with Insane clm Possi and Kid Rock. And then you
Speaker 3: got Machine Gun Kelly, you got eminem But how do
Speaker 3: you kind of like maintain those relationships because like, artists
Speaker 3: are petty people, very pretty people, and if you taking
Speaker 3: a picture with some party, that the next person.
Speaker 1: How do you maintain these kind of relationships? Honestly?
Speaker 11: I I.
Speaker 4: Genuinely love my friends, right, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: if you're my boy, you're my boy for life. That's it.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't give a fuck about your fame.
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck about your money. I don't
Speaker 4: care nothing about that, you know. Like add all, actually
Speaker 4: that's the most annoying part about it all. It's what
Speaker 4: we sign up for. But you know, a genuine hang, man,
Speaker 4: that's what it's. That's that's what it's about. I Mean,
Speaker 4: I know we rolled it, we're filming right now and everything,
Speaker 4: but this is a genuine hang to me. We're kicking
Speaker 4: it all right right, talking shout that's it, And that's
Speaker 4: all you really want.
Speaker 2: So when you make that connection with somebody.
Speaker 1: You know, you keep it.
Speaker 4: I've had friends, shit, man, my whole life. Man, my
Speaker 4: manager I've known since I was twelve years old. Alt
Speaker 4: Zilla AM seven Crew represents Zilla.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I am seven Graffiti Crew. Shout out will Power, you guys,
Speaker 4: Shout out will Power. Been rocking for will Power with
Speaker 4: will Poper over twenty years. Well, I drove him crazy
Speaker 4: when I was coming up. God damn, we got history.
Speaker 1: What is the blunt? It's an old school he put
Speaker 1: that little that little candy. It's a please please, I'll
Speaker 1: light it for you.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 1: I just did dtr Green Thumb would be d real.
Speaker 4: That's my boy. And uh yeah, dude, I got a record.
Speaker 4: I have an album. This has slept on album. So
Speaker 4: I'm I'm happy that I have this platform to even
Speaker 4: mention it. DJ Muggs and I did a record called
Speaker 4: Miles zero Okay, and it's all low fi hip hop
Speaker 4: like album, all produced by mugs, all mugs. There's not
Speaker 4: even there's not even many any hooks on this album.
Speaker 4: It's all MC shit shit and it just kind of
Speaker 4: slip slip.
Speaker 1: We don't know what year did this come out? What
Speaker 1: was Zio. August we did.
Speaker 4: We did this thing called August on Slot and I
Speaker 4: dropped four albums in one month.
Speaker 1: And huh it was twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: Miles zero.
Speaker 4: But I got a song with wu be real on there.
Speaker 4: That's incredible. I did crazy Collaps. I got a song
Speaker 4: with Dela Funky Homo Sapien.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I put Dela Funky, Homo Sapien and DJ Paul
Speaker 1: on a record together. That must sound crazy. I can't
Speaker 1: even imagine that.
Speaker 2: The album's called Miles zero.
Speaker 1: Check it out, man, Yeah, shut out mugs, Yeah, shut
Speaker 1: out mugs. Literally, I'm gonna like this in honor of you, bro.
Speaker 1: I do not smoke. My mama smokes like a chiming.
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay, like it's a cigarette. But listen,
Speaker 1: literally for you.
Speaker 3: I looked at everybody that you guys that you walked
Speaker 3: in with, and everybody is tatted the funk up?
Speaker 1: Can I not be down with your gang?
Speaker 2: You don't got no tattoo.
Speaker 3: I don't got not one tattooers, I'm like you, you're naked.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know. I didn't think about.
Speaker 1: Him not having.
Speaker 2: Got no.
Speaker 1: Just keep it going come on this for me? You
Speaker 1: want this moke that ship here in mind, I can't smoke.
Speaker 1: You don't have to. You don't have to, you don't
Speaker 1: have to do it.
Speaker 2: You want.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say anybody. Yeah, I live that
Speaker 1: heroin here, Come get it. I smoke this ship. It
Speaker 1: can't go the way, No, no fucking way. I'll go crazy.
Speaker 1: Catch a fifty one fifty, you know, I caught it
Speaker 1: fifty one fifty smoking weed. I got to ask what
Speaker 1: a fifty one fifty is? What is that endangerment to
Speaker 1: self for other people? It's like a it's like a
Speaker 1: it's a police it's a police call. It's number wow. Yeah, man, say,
Speaker 1: we don't want a fifty one fifty. Nah, you don't
Speaker 1: want that. You don''t see me on that.
Speaker 3: Before we get to quick time with Slim, can I
Speaker 3: ask you something that I've been wanting to always.
Speaker 13: Asks, Yeah, ask me someone that says, dude, Yes, someone says,
Speaker 13: because I wanted to be a dude, dude, how do
Speaker 13: you start a marsh pit?
Speaker 7: A marsh pit or a marsh pit marsh you know,
Speaker 7: like that's just so cool to me, but how does
Speaker 7: it start? Nor It's marsh Pit. Mark here on out
Speaker 7: here on out this marsh pitch.
Speaker 1: Yo, you come to my show, but you were in
Speaker 1: the marsh pitch perfectly with cat a marsh Pit. I
Speaker 1: would like to go to what is it marsh pill? Okay, but.
Speaker 2: Some dirty.
Speaker 3: Man very serious like because I see like how I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know why I always wanted to do that ship
Speaker 3: like it.
Speaker 2: Ain't never been in the Mars.
Speaker 1: But no.
Speaker 2: Guarantee someone did a must fits a superdug for sure.
Speaker 14: One of your shows that's not feel like they didn't
Speaker 14: invite you mean you want to bro okay, so you
Speaker 14: have to show, you had to show you get you jump,
Speaker 14: how you start?
Speaker 1: How you well?
Speaker 4: I tell you my history of march pits is my
Speaker 4: first match pit I was ever in was Red Man
Speaker 4: at Lollapalooza.
Speaker 1: I was thirteen years old.
Speaker 4: I snuck into Lollapalooza and Tennessee and Redman had a
Speaker 4: side stage at that At that point Eastie Boys was
Speaker 4: on main stage. I think, uh uh uh, maybe Nirvana,
Speaker 4: your childhood was good, a great childhood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure you're basing that on me being in a
Speaker 1: most fucking red Man. I told you.
Speaker 5: He was not.
Speaker 2: Evan.
Speaker 4: I snuck into the show at thirteen, he got a
Speaker 4: mostpit of red Man, your childhood was.
Speaker 1: A failure. Yes, I mean that too, well, but.
Speaker 2: Continue so you're in the marsh pity.
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was saying it wrong.
Speaker 4: So anyway, I had like an early experience of mosh
Speaker 4: pits and ship at a hip hop show.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, and that's a dope.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like rowdy ship. You know. I was that.
Speaker 4: I was. That's what it was, man, I was, you know,
Speaker 4: fucking that's what it was. That was the fun part.
Speaker 4: You know, you funck shit up. You go to go
Speaker 4: to the shows, function up. When I was at that
Speaker 4: show in nineteen ninety seven at the h Room with
Speaker 4: three six a mystical, I watched pit there too. You
Speaker 4: fun up those shows, you know, like that's that's that's
Speaker 4: the best part. It's like, you're this is your favorite group,
Speaker 4: You're seeing them live. Let's get let's right six You
Speaker 4: was like, because I remember it still is yo?
Speaker 1: Yeah, still is you?
Speaker 3: Because I was what's that first record that came up
Speaker 3: with Taylor Club Up? That was I mean the first
Speaker 3: national that was.
Speaker 2: One of the one of their first big records. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they had been doing but they didn't get to New York.
Speaker 2: But they'd done a lot of ship before that.
Speaker 1: Tear the club up. Are you sure before that, I
Speaker 1: had a lot of.
Speaker 2: Street ship on the street.
Speaker 1: That was their first big record. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: I did in New York when it got When that
Speaker 3: ship came, people were literally tearing the club up.
Speaker 1: So yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah dude, so so yeah, they like embodied the culture
Speaker 4: of what was happening around that and that's just what
Speaker 4: it was. You know, God, what a brilliant concept. Man,
Speaker 4: like the Masters of Evil.
Speaker 1: Man that that ship is like some Robert Johnson ship
Speaker 1: man pre six Mafia is They're the greatest bro.
Speaker 4: DJ Paul love you, man. He's a man and mentor
Speaker 4: mentor you know. Like again, still a big family. My
Speaker 4: mom got DJ Paul on her coffee table in a frame,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like Paul's family, Dude, Like, man,
Speaker 4: that's my guy.
Speaker 1: One thing we established is your mother's a gangster.
Speaker 5: Ma.
Speaker 1: Mama is in this interview we don't get anything. Is
Speaker 1: your mama's a gangstang. She's the most gangster person we
Speaker 1: took a mom I've ever met let's go. I think
Speaker 1: we try to take a shop of Mamma.
Speaker 2: We haven't even known pick times.
Speaker 1: Lie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did more drinking more than time.
Speaker 1: But we want to give you your flowers. We got
Speaker 1: to give you a flower.
Speaker 3: Did I noticed talking about keep going, keep going this
Speaker 3: whole interview, We give you a flowers.
Speaker 1: I ain't drinking over there, Come on, have a drink.
Speaker 2: Alright, hold on, so now we're gonna do quick explain.
Speaker 2: This is a drinking game we play. We give you
Speaker 2: two choices. You picked one.
Speaker 1: We were already playing.
Speaker 2: You picked one of the two. So it's like this
Speaker 2: first this, and you pick one. Nobody drinks. But if
Speaker 2: you say both or neither, we all drink.
Speaker 1: Got it? And then give us any stories? Not really,
Speaker 1: but it goes, you know, figure it out.
Speaker 2: You asked me a question.
Speaker 1: I answered, yeah, you go Eminemo, machine gun Kelly, how
Speaker 1: dare you? I told you? Who wakes the questions? Those
Speaker 1: guys that so you say both? Listen man, we would
Speaker 1: like to hear it. Here's here's the deal with that ship.
Speaker 4: Marshall Matters is my brother Marshall Matters coach man A
Speaker 4: way I could never ever, ever fucking repay him back
Speaker 4: for that. I love Marshall for the rest of my life.
Speaker 4: And I'm loyal to Shady and Marshall, period point blank.
Speaker 4: Machine Gun Kelly is my dog. That's my friend, period
Speaker 4: point blank. And I would never put myself on the
Speaker 4: block to choose one or the other.
Speaker 1: I got love and.
Speaker 4: Respect from Marshall and a whole different way, and I
Speaker 4: got a whole different relationship with Shady than I do.
Speaker 1: MGK MGK is my boy.
Speaker 2: Dude, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like, but you know we're taking a show that's both,
Speaker 1: so so you're picking them the answers both, Yeah, drinking
Speaker 1: from take a shot? Yeah? If you say if you
Speaker 1: say one, drink yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. I went off
Speaker 1: the rails. If you say one. If you say one,
Speaker 1: we don't drink, you say both.
Speaker 2: I went off the That was good.
Speaker 1: I'm learning.
Speaker 2: That was perfect.
Speaker 3: That's a great answer to. By the way, now I
Speaker 3: need you got small shots because you do small shots.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be going through. And by the way, that
Speaker 3: was a great answer to.
Speaker 1: I liked it.
Speaker 5: I like you that.
Speaker 1: Uh okay you ready? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Twenty one Savage or Kodak Black.
Speaker 1: Oh, both for sure. We won't be drinking. I said,
Speaker 1: we're going to be drinking for sure. Yeah, keep pouring.
Speaker 1: Yeah the other shot a cool? You ready? You gotta
Speaker 1: take a shot? Yeah yeah, stay with us.
Speaker 15: You can end the suffering. Just pick one, okay, I could,
Speaker 15: Oh way, you got it? I like this one, Kendrick
Speaker 15: or Drake. Kendrick fucking Lamar?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 4: Are you a point blank? And can I say must
Speaker 4: respect to Drake? That them boys ain't no level playing fields, bro?
Speaker 4: Like you cannot you cannot fuck like Kendrick Lamar. Bro,
Speaker 4: that's top top, top tier MC ship, Like, are you
Speaker 4: kidding me? I heard about this shit that was happening,
Speaker 4: and I didn't even listen to, not one single thing nothing.
Speaker 4: I still have not heard one record from either side.
Speaker 4: All I did was hear about it, and I was like,
Speaker 4: what Kendrick and Drake, dog, come on, man, this is
Speaker 4: not even interesting? Like whatever, Kendrick Lamar, that was easy.
Speaker 2: Let's take a shot.
Speaker 1: When you pick? You picked?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: Why you big quit, big krit that's my dog. I
Speaker 4: gotta go a big quit because a couple together I love.
Speaker 1: What wasn't your oldest freshman couple wasn't on that couple.
Speaker 2: What you.
Speaker 1: You're going back on me here, I got I gotta
Speaker 1: go a d d over here. Just you know we
Speaker 1: got drunk fast, Yeah, go ahead ahead, point is okay,
Speaker 1: big quit family. I love y g but obviously big crits.
Speaker 1: You know I'm sticking with the South. I respect you.
Speaker 1: I'm not sticking with the South. I'm sticking with my boy.
Speaker 1: Trying to make me read over here.
Speaker 2: My boy happened to be the next one resting piece
Speaker 2: of both mac Miller and Nipsey.
Speaker 1: What do you your criteria?
Speaker 2: What do you mean it could be? When's your best friend?
Speaker 2: One wasn't when made a good Hamburger? I don't know whatever.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I went to another place. Okay, dark no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you said rest in peace to both, like like I
Speaker 1: can say, I know, I know that.
Speaker 2: Where did you go wrong?
Speaker 1: I thought you were asking me to say rest in
Speaker 1: peace to which one.
Speaker 2: I don't even want to.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's fucked up, that's fucking fat, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: For I was like, no, that's not.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 4: Listen when mac Miller, mac Miller became my little brother,
Speaker 4: mac Miller and I never even did records together, and
Speaker 4: we stayed until it's called the regular. We understood each
Speaker 4: other so much as artists that we knew that like
Speaker 4: do and songs together, it may not be the best
Speaker 4: for each other's career.
Speaker 1: We were just so different, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But we also he would hit me up. Man, it's
Speaker 1: just so dope. I hit him up, man, new sh
Speaker 1: It's crazy, man. Love it came my little bro.
Speaker 4: When Mac Miller died, Bro, listen, man, I took every
Speaker 4: this is for real, for real. I took every fucking
Speaker 4: thing I owned out of my closet, all my clothes,
Speaker 4: all my shoes, all my pants, all my jewelry, all
Speaker 4: my hats, and I put them in front of it.
Speaker 4: I had a store in Nashville at the time, this
Speaker 4: was before cold put in the parking lot and I said,
Speaker 4: anyone who pulls.
Speaker 1: Up can get an outfit for free today.
Speaker 4: And I re upped my ship because I just felt
Speaker 4: like I needed to do something positive and let go
Speaker 4: of something.
Speaker 1: Mac was special, man. So that ship. I love Mac dude,
Speaker 1: and and our friendship is so much on the underground
Speaker 1: that it is so deeply personal, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when he passed, I was really hurt. Dude for real,
Speaker 1: and he's such a gift man, such a gift.
Speaker 2: It seemed like he had a lot of those relationships
Speaker 2: thought of because he is that guy, He's that kid.
Speaker 1: I cried. I cried.
Speaker 3: I was overseas, I was in Europe because you know,
Speaker 3: he did an album with a real called Pink Slime,
Speaker 3: and you know, I don't want to say I invented
Speaker 3: the worst line, but I bring the worst line to
Speaker 3: the rap game. And I felt like like he was
Speaker 3: trying to tell me like that was like his homage
Speaker 3: to me. And I never got to say that publicly,
Speaker 3: and I never got to see what I saw when
Speaker 3: I seen him publicly. I never like was like yo,
Speaker 3: as a og, sometimes you want to talk to the youngins.
Speaker 3: You want to say, yo, you know what, maybe shouldn't
Speaker 3: be doing all that, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 3: I did it because I was just like I felt
Speaker 3: like he had it under control. So when I was overseas,
Speaker 3: I remember I was driving from like Germany to Paris
Speaker 3: or Paris to Germany either or and I got the news.
Speaker 1: I just read it and just start to cry, and
Speaker 1: it seemed like it was whoop, right there you go,
Speaker 1: He's on the way to Amsterdam.
Speaker 4: He was on the way to Amsterdam, and I was crazy,
Speaker 4: but you know, like we must have been all like,
Speaker 4: you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I don't know how we never met.
Speaker 4: It's funny you meet people like never met me, but
Speaker 4: I know your soul though, like rock the bells and
Speaker 4: all the things that I've done.
Speaker 1: My dude, yes, my dude, but we did, did you?
Speaker 1: So you picked McMillan one? One last thing about that
Speaker 1: we did? Can I say one? Yeah? We got plenty
Speaker 1: of times.
Speaker 4: So this is this is funny. This is actually funny.
Speaker 4: We did the show and Aspen and uh, Mac and
Speaker 4: I when we played it, we played the same stage
Speaker 4: and we just happened to like come to the same state.
Speaker 4: We got booked by the same promoter or whatever. And
Speaker 4: Ell Madic comes on, uh no, its ematic comes on.
Speaker 4: We're stage. Mac runs to the stage and spits word
Speaker 4: for word, bar for bar, that whole that whole record,
Speaker 4: you know, like it was and I was and he was, dude,
Speaker 4: this dude's ten years younger than I am, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like, and it was just like blown
Speaker 4: away by that. So I talked to him backstage and
Speaker 4: you know, we started got diving into hip hop and
Speaker 4: on how it happened for him and all that ship.
Speaker 4: And he was really really rising at the time, you know,
Speaker 4: and I was coming up, but not like he was.
Speaker 4: He was coming up on a different level. And we
Speaker 4: were flying back. We were flying back, and I was
Speaker 4: still riding coach and I was sitting in my coach
Speaker 4: seat and he was walking up to first.
Speaker 2: Class and he was like, yo, my bad.
Speaker 1: He was like, my bad, I'm going in first class.
Speaker 1: Like fuck you a bitching flying first class overseas. You
Speaker 1: know how expensive it is to fly overseas first class
Speaker 1: at the time. At the time, that was in fact
Speaker 1: coach to Russia together.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, up, fu, you don't want to wait?
Speaker 1: You wanted in that trip? They said Russians against racism.
Speaker 1: We was like, we may not belong to.
Speaker 2: Those are the promoters Russians against racism.
Speaker 1: I got the flying and coach trip. I got the
Speaker 1: flying and coach.
Speaker 4: You want a life hack, you want a life hack,
Speaker 4: you coach flyer? All right, listen, take a bag, put
Speaker 4: a full blown house pillow in your bag.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 4: If you got a bad check, check your bag, check
Speaker 4: it back, check it back. You get a carry on, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: carry on a pillow, put it in the bag, or
Speaker 4: if you want to carry it like round like like
Speaker 4: we need to pooh, or whatever you want to do.
Speaker 4: I put mine in my bags long, like an idiot
Speaker 4: with a pillow under my arm walking through the airport.
Speaker 4: When you fire coach window, seat right, window, sea, lay
Speaker 4: that fucking full sized pillow against the window, lean your
Speaker 4: seat back. It becomes first class, first class, first class,
Speaker 4: that light back.
Speaker 2: But listen before that, for years, before we leave the
Speaker 2: mac Miller and Nipsey thing.
Speaker 1: First of all, do you have a story about Nipsey?
Speaker 5: You have?
Speaker 1: I met Nipsey?
Speaker 2: No, I don't have any story.
Speaker 1: You never met him. No stories, I don't have any
Speaker 1: stories personally, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: But they were both huge losses to the culture and
Speaker 2: meant so much and what they represented generationally for for
Speaker 2: was to be in hip hop.
Speaker 1: I think we lost a lot when we lost those course. Okay,
Speaker 1: Meek Mill or French Montana both? Okay, go on both
Speaker 1: take a shot taking a shot that sounded like it
Speaker 1: could have been one or the other. But okay, you
Speaker 1: got to see the shot, don't count Oh, share my
Speaker 1: bad cheer. We on you, you know what, because the
Speaker 1: fans will will be a lot of.
Speaker 2: Like you shot.
Speaker 4: These are all you know what's interesting? These are all
Speaker 4: straight hip hop references. Do you have anything else besides
Speaker 4: the country?
Speaker 1: I told you, Dominicans and Colias? What would you like?
Speaker 1: You want us to serve up something else? Guys, get
Speaker 1: on there. No, no, no, it's fine. Ask me whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm good with. I was just I'm just Oh
Speaker 1: he follows me, I follow him. Jelly Roller, who Lady Gaga,
Speaker 1: Jelly Ro, Jelly Rose, Still hip hop?
Speaker 3: I feel I feel like he's still hip I feel
Speaker 3: you say still hip hop?
Speaker 1: I feel like he.
Speaker 3: Still to you to how you feel like that term
Speaker 3: that you were saying earlier country hip hop? I feel
Speaker 3: like that's gonna turn into a whole genre of music.
Speaker 3: But has Jelly Road right now, that's not hip hop,
Speaker 3: that's not hip hop.
Speaker 1: But he comes from hip hop. You of course he
Speaker 1: does what he's making right now, come on that that
Speaker 1: ain't here.
Speaker 4: But like Jelly knows that he's a singer songwriter, he's
Speaker 4: making country music, and he's or.
Speaker 3: Pop music record in the world right now. His country,
Speaker 3: right bro, his country is rock. Everybody in the club
Speaker 3: getting tipsy. That's the that's a country record now know
Speaker 3: yeah name Chippoosie. Yeah, get the number one record. Shipboozy, Shipboozy.
Speaker 1: I shout out to Shipboozy once. I I don't love
Speaker 1: disrespect you like I got you, got you. That's my boy.
Speaker 1: He's a country singer and he's black.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's.
Speaker 1: The rosa parks of country music.
Speaker 2: That make me.
Speaker 1: Went to far? Now you never heard of that. That's
Speaker 1: I went too far. I went too far. I went
Speaker 1: They can tell me I went too far.
Speaker 2: I don't really know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was doing. Shaboozie is as
Speaker 1: like Shaboozi is is a blessing to music right now.
Speaker 4: And like living in Nashville, the country music scene is
Speaker 4: a bit. No, it's not stale, it's it's it's it's
Speaker 4: evolving and there's you know, there's great characters that are
Speaker 4: stepping into the game. And I would say Shaboozie and
Speaker 4: Jelly Row are crucial to the to the country.
Speaker 1: Music right the evolution of country music. Yeah, and Jelly
Speaker 1: Row won the award.
Speaker 2: He's killing it.
Speaker 1: He's plural, I mean, keeps doing is winning right now.
Speaker 2: He's just winning.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. And he used to open for me, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I used to. I used to take him on tour.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: He's got Slamerican tattooed down his arm, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Like, that's that's family, bro. Like we come
Speaker 4: from the same neighborhood. Man, So shout out to jail
Speaker 4: ro Man and Struggle Jennings.
Speaker 1: Let's get champs.
Speaker 2: Huh oh, you would love that.
Speaker 1: He's a drinker to come on and he smokes. He
Speaker 1: smokes like a chimney.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I wish I could smoke, man, marijuana.
Speaker 2: You could take a break and smoke outside.
Speaker 1: Up. Man, we're gonna break up there, like you give me,
Speaker 1: give me, let me be the first. You know, it's
Speaker 1: not us. I promise you. It's gonna fucking safe ship.
Speaker 1: You got we smoked, you got all this management hold.
Speaker 1: Let's get you this and over there lady smoked my
Speaker 1: sme eight balls. I'm thinking, I'm just oh wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wh whoa whoa you You're not okay? This better?
Speaker 2: Okay. I don't know who you got behind a ball,
Speaker 2: but it's a good matchup.
Speaker 1: Or U g K, that's a great matchup. You see.
Speaker 1: I want to drink, Let's go. Oh man u g
Speaker 1: K listen, figure you want to said no, no, because
Speaker 1: I have a record.
Speaker 4: I got a record with eight Ball, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I got a record with a Boy, m
Speaker 4: G and Waka Flaka Wow, and I love them boys
Speaker 4: of course. But Bumby was my first co sign. But
Speaker 4: Bumby came in on Good to Go and one of
Speaker 4: my first official Coast signs. It was Bumby and then
Speaker 4: Big Boy from out Cast. But Bumby stepped in when
Speaker 4: you know, no one knew and and and really really
Speaker 4: went in. And then after after the fact that I
Speaker 4: did records with with with a Ball, m j G
Speaker 4: and Rest in Peace PEMC. I did get to meet
Speaker 4: PIMPC before he passed, and I was with Kawan Prayther,
Speaker 4: thank you Kawan for that introduction Ghetto Vision and Los
Speaker 4: Angeles before he passed. A huge PEMPS fan, so uh
Speaker 4: PIMC fans, So you GK.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Gilla said swab House, by the way, it's a huge influence.
Speaker 4: So the whole swab House sign out of Texas was
Speaker 4: was a huge influence on me musically, Tila, I'm so
Speaker 4: tired up about.
Speaker 1: Because there's too many pictures in my mix.
Speaker 2: You never.
Speaker 4: Like they're like, come on, make that round. That whole
Speaker 4: sound was fucking come on. Okay, wow House maybe Texas
Speaker 4: blow will Swang?
Speaker 1: What up? Paul Wall? What up? Trader Truth? Okay?
Speaker 3: My brothers three six Mafia outcasts?
Speaker 1: Wow? You know you don't have to pick, man, No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you have to Sorry.
Speaker 4: I do have to pick, and I will say absolutely both,
Speaker 4: because they were both.
Speaker 1: Picking take it up or both?
Speaker 3: That's not a pick, but I got to pick whatever
Speaker 3: you want drink? Say both both. We gotta drink.
Speaker 1: Drink drinks three six Mafia both and simultaneously. You want
Speaker 1: to explain my life? Hell yeah, I explain man, So
Speaker 1: let's go.
Speaker 2: I do. This is why I do.
Speaker 1: I like the more he drinks drinks, the more, the
Speaker 1: more funny. Well, I mean, don't we all?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: I was. I've been warming up for this show all week.
Speaker 2: What's the warm up for the show?
Speaker 1: How do you want up for this show?
Speaker 2: It's gonna be the clip right here? Why do you
Speaker 2: warm up for? Drink? Chests?
Speaker 4: Five Days at the Sunset Marquee, Los Angeles, California, mixed
Speaker 4: with a little bit of Broadway, Nashville, Tennessee, Roberts Dive Bar,
Speaker 4: D's shout out fucking furnet shots.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean trying to uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I was prepping you can't even wrong a dive and
Speaker 1: I drank a lot of chests at the dive bars.
Speaker 1: What I always want to hang out.
Speaker 2: I think we're all confused right now. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We were at Outcast and you said both, yeah, we
Speaker 1: already gans at that. Both in the story they both, man,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Well influenced me.
Speaker 4: And also, you know, big Boy gave me my first
Speaker 4: look on television ET Awards, your DJ no DJ And
Speaker 4: at the time, I did.
Speaker 2: A song.
Speaker 4: With Slim Thug called I Run, I Run, so like
Speaker 4: Jim Johnson pulled me in and became a big record,
Speaker 4: but I was.
Speaker 1: Well, I was. It became a huge record for some thug,
Speaker 1: but I was so on the ground I couldn't even
Speaker 1: afford to make the video. So Jim Johnson like lip
Speaker 1: sync my part, you know what I'm saying, and.
Speaker 4: During the video, but the word got around that there
Speaker 4: was this dude doing rock hooks. So then I did
Speaker 4: Joel Santana mixing up the medicine, mixing up the medicine.
Speaker 4: I was in the baseman mixing up the medicine. So
Speaker 4: I did that, which was uh, Subterranean Blues by Bob Dylan.
Speaker 4: So then Big Boy hits me up because now he
Speaker 4: wants a rock cook because now this ship.
Speaker 1: You're theok at this time.
Speaker 3: At the time, yeah, he was Joe Hooker before.
Speaker 1: Trying to make it.
Speaker 4: So so the situation, the session opened up to work
Speaker 4: with Big and and he was like, man, man, I
Speaker 4: got work out one of these rod hooks.
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, really, I just want to rap.
Speaker 1: I just want to rap. And nobody hadn't really heard
Speaker 1: you rap much, okay.
Speaker 2: No, and he was like.
Speaker 1: Rap. I was like yeah, man. And Kate kp was
Speaker 1: there with me though.
Speaker 4: Kawan Pray through who I signed, you know, signed, helped
Speaker 4: sign outcast Pink John Legend, and he was like, nah,
Speaker 4: he's got it, dog, I'm telling you. And Big Boy
Speaker 4: was like, started playing me beats. He's still questionable. He
Speaker 4: turned on the your DJ no DJ beat and I
Speaker 4: was like that one. He's like, now shot at three
Speaker 4: thousand produced that one.
Speaker 2: You can't have that one. And I was like, please
Speaker 2: just give me a chance.
Speaker 4: He was like, she was like all right, bro, So
Speaker 4: he gave me the beat and I handed him back
Speaker 4: like sixty four bars.
Speaker 2: I just swear just to the whole thing.
Speaker 4: So he ended up chopping my pieces and then he
Speaker 4: would he chopped his pieces, in chopped my pieces, in
Speaker 4: chopped his pieces in created a song out of one
Speaker 4: long verse that I turned in Wow. And then that song,
Speaker 4: that song ended up doing really well. We shot a
Speaker 4: music video to it, and then my first look b
Speaker 4: ET Awards was on stage with Big.
Speaker 1: Boy Wow Man make noise for that. That was an
Speaker 1: explanation like a motherfucker rocking Hank Williams T shirt Williams,
Speaker 1: Tupac or DMX rest in pieces of both. Don't get
Speaker 1: confused Tupac Okay, that's cool. Ludacris or TI I T I,
Speaker 1: Gucci Man or two chains, Guccie Man, Oh yeah, Gucci Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Gucci Man. I got a story, dude, Do you know
Speaker 1: what's funny? Okay?
Speaker 4: I got every time you ask you this one that
Speaker 4: I have, I have a yeah, I mean whatever, like
Speaker 4: you can back up three times. I got I got
Speaker 4: relationships with everyone you're talking.
Speaker 1: You're about to get a Gucci man story. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: let's talk about.
Speaker 2: It all right.
Speaker 4: So when I was working in Atlanta and she was
Speaker 4: about to pop, I had met Gucci and Waka at
Speaker 4: a at a studio. Dude, I mean, this is fuck man.
Speaker 4: I want to say ten twelve years ago, maybe more,
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's a while back. Gucci was already
Speaker 4: super popping, you know what I mean, super super popping.
Speaker 4: And the opportunity came up to work with Gucci and
Speaker 4: so will Power will Power, and now I went to
Speaker 4: the studio what was it? What studio was that? Will No,
Speaker 4: it wasn't a tree sound.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: Patchwork, absolutely patchwork. So k people pulled put Gucci in
Speaker 4: for a feature. And at this time, I, you know,
Speaker 4: I met Gucci, but I didn't really I didn't really
Speaker 4: like kick it and kick it with him. And we
Speaker 4: wrote this record call I Just Want.
Speaker 1: To Party and Gucci slayed it, and we were sitting
Speaker 1: on this like what we was like gold, you.
Speaker 4: Know, We're like this is this this record is incredible,
Speaker 4: but how are we going.
Speaker 1: To do this?
Speaker 4: So right around the street from Patchwork is like pretty
Speaker 4: much like all squat, like old abandoned fraternity houses and
Speaker 4: skateboard houses and all this shit. I was like, man,
Speaker 4: we should shoot a video up the street, and I
Speaker 4: got some spots, so we rented the spot out and
Speaker 4: Gucci pulled up. Man, we talked about some goons out there,
Speaker 4: like like, I'm sorry from my side.
Speaker 1: Ain't talking about Gucci, So I'm talking about the goons
Speaker 1: I came with, you know, like like rowdy punk rock motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: Like we're out there in the yard with kegs of beer,
Speaker 1: and like I like kegs a bit too.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Gucci pulled up.
Speaker 4: In a like fucking bright yellow limbo, dripped in diamonds,
Speaker 4: and man, he showed so much love to me and
Speaker 4: my crew, and like you got to remember I was
Speaker 4: just coming up.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't have ship nothing.
Speaker 4: I probably had like ten bands in the bank, you
Speaker 4: know if that, you know, and like, but he saw
Speaker 4: no difference.
Speaker 1: Man, he showed love and supported so like, shout out
Speaker 1: to Gucci. That's my mother like a dog Gucci, mane,
Speaker 1: I just want to party legendary versus so you pick Gucci. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So trying to make sure just to make sure kid
Speaker 1: rock or ic P. That's interesting.
Speaker 4: That's I'm gonna take Bob I'm gonna take Bob over
Speaker 4: icy P.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry who everybody but you call everybody?
Speaker 3: They first too cool man, But Bob is kid Rock's
Speaker 3: real name, Bobby Boy.
Speaker 1: Rock Man.
Speaker 4: I take kid Rock get me. Uh, they tell you
Speaker 4: when Marshall took me the Kid Rock's house. Let me
Speaker 4: tell you this is hilarious.
Speaker 3: So you just let.
Speaker 1: But listen. When I was in Detroit, Marshall goes.
Speaker 4: Yo, is there is there anyone you really really want
Speaker 4: to work with at all on this on this new record?
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, I mean, ship, Honestly, Kid
Speaker 4: Rock would be sick, you know because I because I
Speaker 4: consider kid Rock the the godfather of blending hip hop
Speaker 4: with country and rock.
Speaker 1: Like I think he did it the best. Okay you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I really, you know, regardless of the lyrical content ability.
Speaker 4: He wrote huge songs and he blended it all together,
Speaker 4: you know, like I mean.
Speaker 1: To all of my He was at the Methadone clinics.
Speaker 1: You know that kind of that kind of line is
Speaker 1: like with me, is like, oh it is Motherbucket. So
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I like to work for Bob.
Speaker 4: And uh you told Bob, Huh you told Mark, I said,
Speaker 4: kid Rock, now know Bob?
Speaker 2: Now like I know Bob. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But so he takes me out, so he's like all right.
Speaker 4: So so Paul Rosenberg and Marshall jumping a car in
Speaker 4: front of us and me and KP we're following up
Speaker 4: to Bob's house. You know you're going to Kate rox
Speaker 4: house you know? Okay, yeah, yeah, so surprised. No, I'm
Speaker 4: going to meet him because I want to do a
Speaker 4: song with him.
Speaker 10: Wow.
Speaker 1: So the way for that to happen is for me
Speaker 1: to meet him via Marshall. Wow.
Speaker 2: So we pull up to his Creative Mafia meeting ship.
Speaker 1: I'm so into this. Continue Yeah. So we pull up
Speaker 1: and there's a fucking I remember like pulling up.
Speaker 4: It's gated and it's way deep North Detroit, like like
Speaker 4: beautiful estate. It's not a huge mansion actually, it's like
Speaker 4: a little white like little cottage, but it's beautiful. It's
Speaker 4: like everything's very well kept, and uh, Bob.
Speaker 1: Bob pulls up to the fucking gate in a generally
Speaker 1: golf cart, Duke's and hazard generally he was.
Speaker 3: Going to do.
Speaker 1: But how is it generally? Is it it's a shaped
Speaker 1: like it generally golf cart. You know, come on put
Speaker 1: two and two together.
Speaker 11: Bro.
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to whatever, but look the fast no, okay,
Speaker 1: you confederate it out fast, Okay, Okay. So I pull
Speaker 1: up and like we we pull up, We pull up
Speaker 1: to the spot. He's got a big ass fucking like
Speaker 1: silver war cannon in front of in his front yard
Speaker 1: with like with like big damn like round. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the cannonballs. It was like a pyramid of
Speaker 1: cannon balls next to it, like like in front of
Speaker 1: his front door. In case.
Speaker 4: You never know, listen, man, I walk in his house
Speaker 4: and this fool got a giraffe giraffe neck like just
Speaker 4: a a neck, a floor mounted giraffe, you know, from
Speaker 4: the neck up.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, you know no, I don't know.
Speaker 2: This is something we've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of this. There's all kinds of these
Speaker 1: beautiful fucking things that are I've never seen anything like
Speaker 1: this in my life, dude. Now, I was brand new, bro,
Speaker 1: I just signed bro.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I'm coming straight, Dude.
Speaker 4: I was boiling water for a hot bath when I
Speaker 4: did Trump music type ship, you know. So I'm like
Speaker 4: fucking like blowing. I'm like blown away. So these guys
Speaker 4: start talking Bob and Marshall and uh so Bob, I
Speaker 4: see by I see marsh out there with Bob, like
Speaker 4: get you know, they're doing the whole fucking you know,
Speaker 4: and fucking Bob's fucking grilling steaks like all right, smoking
Speaker 4: a cigar, fucking doing doing all this thing. And uh
Speaker 4: ended up they made an agreement that that that the
Speaker 4: collaboration would happen there.
Speaker 2: But it took me going to the house and meeting him.
Speaker 1: By the way, I played I played around of basketball
Speaker 1: with Eminem. He's telling them Eminem. Now, okay, dude, he's
Speaker 1: a baller.
Speaker 3: Bro. I'm gonna be honest with you. To me, I
Speaker 3: think everyone, let let's Eminem win.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, I did. Okay, So
Speaker 1: that's not what happened. So he called him Eminem and
Speaker 1: he start talking about basketball. Weird, that's not anymore. I
Speaker 1: don't play basket. That's basketball. Ain't my thing, you know,
Speaker 1: but it is it is his thing, all right?
Speaker 5: Yo?
Speaker 1: So no, so yo.
Speaker 2: So maybe he's not that good, you're that bad.
Speaker 1: Maybe here's the thing, Bob. Bob's got a basketball court
Speaker 1: on his property. And a studio by the way, with
Speaker 1: like old like signed jam Master j turntables and like
Speaker 1: the craziest rock and roll memorabilia you could think of it.
Speaker 1: He got on deir Heads too, right, he got coming,
Speaker 1: he got at the beginning. Everything else that's just crazy.
Speaker 1: He's got his basketball court and Marshall wants to play
Speaker 1: basketball with me. Basketball, whatever it takes for the feature.
Speaker 1: Let's go.
Speaker 11: Ro wants to see sal set you up. That's what
Speaker 11: it sounds like. It's up as to me on a
Speaker 11: full outdoor basketball court. Right, there's a lot of space.
Speaker 1: Paul Rosenberg is sitting there with a cigar, like halfway reading.
Speaker 4: His phone and maybe some papers. I don't know, But
Speaker 4: he didn't care what was happening. He was just fucking
Speaker 4: looking at some ship. This is some ship, I guess.
Speaker 1: You know, Marshall plays a lot of basketball. He used
Speaker 1: to this ship. So it's me and Eminem and you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying we're doing. It's barbecue and Marshall.
Speaker 1: But Bob's over there making steaks, drinking and ship.
Speaker 12: This sounds like the weirdest and where I'm on a
Speaker 12: wrong one with Marshall And you know I just signed
Speaker 12: this ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, saying, fucking man, I don't
Speaker 1: really want to fuck up you don't want to break
Speaker 1: his ankles. But he went up for a shot.
Speaker 3: Dog.
Speaker 1: I read him like a book. And when I went
Speaker 1: up and fucking the smagg it, I missed the ball. Wow.
Speaker 12: I elbowed him right in the head. Oh, swear to god,
Speaker 12: It's like, it's it's cool, it's cool. It's like I
Speaker 12: was like, hey, man, you cool, he said, recoping. He
Speaker 12: was already up like ten points. I didn't have ship anyway,
Speaker 12: and he.
Speaker 1: Goes Paul you seeing this, And Paul wouldn't even look.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, shit, fucking fucking stumpy and basketball.
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, hitting him in the head. That was
Speaker 1: not that was. That was. It was a very awkward moment, man,
Speaker 1: very I felt bad. Sorry, I'm sorry, Marsha talk about
Speaker 1: that still woman. Jadakiss or NOAs Jadakiss or nos h
Speaker 1: are you kidding?
Speaker 4: I'm mean, like, I love Jadakiss, but that's that's like,
Speaker 4: that's like comparing Metallica to like Iron No, that's no.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm gonna say nas and I love Jadakiss,
Speaker 1: but I gotta go nos Nos. Just you know that
Speaker 1: that's a different level of influence Metallica's to who I don't.
Speaker 1: I just I just think that they're they're they're just
Speaker 1: I think Jadakiss and Nas are are on different spectrum.
Speaker 3: And it's and it's Jadakis friend who writes this ship.
Speaker 3: That is he has Jadakis phone kiss. You want to
Speaker 3: put him against Nas and Jadakiss text.
Speaker 1: Conversation. It's not this at all. No, I know, it's
Speaker 1: not just like it's just it's it's it's a strange like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: I'm just curious who you put Metallica against a point
Speaker 2: me to I was just likeaa so good poison against
Speaker 2: color me bad. I mean, let's put in the same genre.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I would say Nas, I know, I would
Speaker 4: say Nas uh Bob Dylan, and I would say Jada
Speaker 4: kiss Beatles.
Speaker 16: Oh that was great, that was great. You can't yeah, yes, yeah,
Speaker 16: you were. You were meant to do this ship all right.
Speaker 16: Oh mystical, mystical and.
Speaker 4: Had a lot of influence on me, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, like all the No Limit family, but but mystical, mystical,
Speaker 4: because well, I mean, who has it from my era
Speaker 4: of chopping and like like like vocal.
Speaker 1: Nuances and things that I have like learned from him.
Speaker 1: And he featured on my my first my freshman.
Speaker 4: Project, Yeah, mystical all ice Cube scoff face ice Cube
Speaker 4: only because I ice Cube was one of the one
Speaker 4: of the first start records that I memorized front to
Speaker 4: backward for word which today was a good day.
Speaker 1: Who let me see if you still know it? Just
Speaker 1: waking up in the morning. Gotta thank God. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but the day seems kind of a no bucket from
Speaker 1: the doll, no snog and mamaick the breakfast with no hog.
Speaker 1: I got my girl, but I finally got a call
Speaker 1: from a girl I want to dig out hooked it
Speaker 1: up for lady. That was I hit the doe, thinking
Speaker 1: will I live another twenty four? I gotta go because
Speaker 1: I got me your drop top and if I hit
Speaker 1: that switch, I can make that ass drop had to
Speaker 1: stop from a red light looking in the mirror.
Speaker 4: Now jack insight and all right, I gotta beat from
Speaker 4: Kim and she can do it all night. Called up
Speaker 4: my homies in a masking. Y'all, y'all, are y'all playing basketball?
Speaker 4: Give me on the court and I trouble last week.
Speaker 3: Fuck around, I got a freaking brothers every day, Like
Speaker 3: I can't believe today, it was.
Speaker 1: That's what makes you specially though, that's what the fact
Speaker 1: that I know you, you know.
Speaker 2: Your hip hop, I know it like like the lyric
Speaker 2: co on line that that's that's I think that that's
Speaker 2: the cut.
Speaker 1: Oh me damn id like I said the story fifteen,
Speaker 1: But it goes with what you're saying about him.
Speaker 3: Yes, Leo told me one day, Leo is my one
Speaker 3: of my favorite ceo. I lovely or I don't want
Speaker 3: to say my favorite white CEO because I think that's unfair.
Speaker 1: It's unfair, like you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, Like this shouldn't be my favorite
Speaker 3: white ceo. My favorite black CEOs should be just my
Speaker 3: favorite CEO. And that's how I look at I don't
Speaker 3: say that no more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean that's that's but that's my
Speaker 1: favorite CEO.
Speaker 3: So Leo came to me one day. And usually CEOs
Speaker 3: tell you when you meet, well set the like you'll
Speaker 3: get the record. I had a record. I had a
Speaker 3: record with Jah Rule right and according to what Leo
Speaker 3: called it, you just got signed to death.
Speaker 1: Jam just got signed of Dead jam Win the first record.
Speaker 3: We really shot the video and he called my video,
Speaker 3: he said, this is popcorn.
Speaker 1: Hurt my feelings. Oh man, let me get you this scenario.
Speaker 1: So there's a reason why we're saying okay. So he
Speaker 1: comes to me.
Speaker 3: Most CEOs say don't bring nobody to the meeting, but
Speaker 3: he for this reason, he said, bring all of your
Speaker 3: friends whoever you bring them all.
Speaker 1: So my dumb ass brings them all.
Speaker 3: And we're going into the meeting and he uh, he
Speaker 3: says to me, he plays the videos me and jo Rule,
Speaker 3: I mean Ferraris, I'm doing all this crazy shit that
Speaker 3: that's not what he signed me for. He signed me
Speaker 3: to be you know, the Warrport Norri which is Worryport
Speaker 3: was just turned twenty seven years.
Speaker 2: Seven years of Warriport yesterday.
Speaker 3: So he says, he says to me, we watch it
Speaker 3: and he goes, this is popcorn. And I never knew
Speaker 3: that popcorn could be bad. I always thought popcorn was
Speaker 3: a good thing.
Speaker 1: And it's first time I was like word popcorn.
Speaker 3: And he stood in the meeting in front of all
Speaker 3: of my you know, you know friends that were looks
Speaker 3: very scary, you know, and he didn't care and he said,
Speaker 3: if I cut you right now, what would you bleed?
Speaker 1: I was like blood.
Speaker 3: Then he said, well asking me this question. So I said,
Speaker 3: lee off, I cut you right now, what would you bleed?
Speaker 3: And he goes, I would bleed rue DMC sucker m
Speaker 3: C yeah. He said, now, norriy, I'm going to ask
Speaker 3: you one more time. If I cut you, what would
Speaker 3: you bleed? I said, I bleed, super dog. He said exactly.
Speaker 3: Pharrell is on the way to go see for real
Speaker 3: and I've made a record call Homeboy.
Speaker 1: I came to party.
Speaker 3: And if it wasn't because of that, it's because he
Speaker 3: dissed me to my face. And what he's trying to
Speaker 3: say is it's in you. Like I want to ask
Speaker 3: you that question, if I cut you right now, what
Speaker 3: would you bleed? And don't say blood, it's the wrong answer.
Speaker 3: I believe rock and roll rock and roll. I believe
Speaker 3: rock and roll for long. Everything that I do is
Speaker 3: rock and roll. Even the hip hop I make is
Speaker 3: rock and roll. The lifestyle I live is rock and roll.
Speaker 2: But you don't mean it. You don't mean it musically,
Speaker 2: you mean it as as a hip like rock and roll.
Speaker 2: It's all counterculture. It's all alter.
Speaker 4: It's not like, hey, oh you're a rock star now, man,
Speaker 4: Like I grew up around rock and roll.
Speaker 1: I know what rock and roll is. And if you
Speaker 1: cut me open, which song would you bleed? What song
Speaker 1: would I what song would I believe? Rock and roll?
Speaker 4: Whatever song you want to pick, I would pick how
Speaker 4: I would pick highway Man by the Highwayman, Johnny Cash,
Speaker 4: Chris Christophers and Willie Nelson.
Speaker 2: I want to smoke with will and Nelson and Waylon Jennings.
Speaker 4: I would take that one song called a Highwayman and
Speaker 4: that that would be the song you hear about me.
Speaker 17: Go let's take the shop of that are weak? Love
Speaker 17: that song and shout out. Shout out to my shout
Speaker 17: out I got okay, shout out to my brother.
Speaker 1: Shout out to my brother Shooter Jennings, who is related
Speaker 1: Wayland jennings Son.
Speaker 2: Literally that was.
Speaker 1: What the like. You know, I'm I'm a little you know, crazy,
Speaker 1: but we having fun though it.
Speaker 2: All right? Alabama or Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Come on, homie. I love God damn Bama. I like
Speaker 1: Bama all right.
Speaker 2: I love Atlanta though I love Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Rest in peace, grib applies speaker fox Man. Rest in peace.
Speaker 1: Lenny's Bar, Atlanta, Georgia. Man, Yes, sir, favorite restaurant in
Speaker 1: Atlanta spawned divids. I knew he was gonna says.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm totally connected.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm totally connected. I know he's gonna say, I
Speaker 2: swelt have gone.
Speaker 1: I wish restaurant is the Layman's and don't know it's
Speaker 1: it's a seafood restaurant. It's like almost it is seafood y'all.
Speaker 1: It is, yes, yes it is.
Speaker 3: But it's like, for some reason, swan divis game, your
Speaker 3: aura set, Swanda, this person is not even on the thing.
Speaker 1: It wasn't he's not even because they don't bail. And
Speaker 1: then that that was the question.
Speaker 2: It was it was your.
Speaker 1: There's another spot in Atlanta called Smith's Old Bar, and
Speaker 1: even that one, okay, well there's it's the only is
Speaker 1: the only restaurant bar in Atlanta that that celebrates Alabama culture.
Speaker 4: So they host all the Alabama games, they host their
Speaker 4: whole menu is from Alabama, and so and and I
Speaker 4: came up playing there.
Speaker 1: So shout out to the Smith's Old Bar as well. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: podcast of radio, No, we did do what's coffee?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did Bro, We did podcast, podcast, podcast for sure.
Speaker 1: Radios? What the fuck is radio?
Speaker 4: I don't know what the radio every day? I mean,
Speaker 4: I really don't. I I maybe fucking shoot myself on
Speaker 4: the foot, you know what I mean, But I really don't.
Speaker 4: I never gave a fuck anyway. I've never had any
Speaker 4: real uh radio presence.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: My success comes from the gutter, dude, Like it's all.
Speaker 4: Like yeah, absolutely, but it took work, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, like three tours across America in advance, getting
Speaker 4: three hundred dollars a night to open up a Whiskalief
Speaker 4: or Ray Kwan and Harlem, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: ship like put it in work or making no money
Speaker 4: at all, right, you know. So like anyway, so I
Speaker 4: take a lot of pride on the fans that have
Speaker 4: that we built up over the years. And I mean
Speaker 4: I do see the effect of radio because when I
Speaker 4: see it happen to Jelly Roll or like Morgan Wallen
Speaker 4: or Drake or Rihanna, these these you know, these these
Speaker 4: these people with these radio hits, I'm like, I just
Speaker 4: don't understand the club, you know.
Speaker 1: I know, I know that I got records that could
Speaker 1: fit in the line.
Speaker 2: But I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get it.
Speaker 4: I like this ship because it's you know, this is
Speaker 4: like really, it's thank you.
Speaker 1: It's unhinged. It's unhinged. There's no editing. We don't edit.
Speaker 2: Just get the funk down.
Speaker 1: Unless there's some crazy shit it said.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but all right, cool, Now this is the last
Speaker 3: one for quick timea slim and then we're gonna go
Speaker 3: back into the interview.
Speaker 1: Loyalty or respect. Loyalty, don't break it down.
Speaker 4: I would rather someone be loyal and hold me down
Speaker 4: then to have respect for me. I don't really care
Speaker 4: if you like me or not. If if you could,
Speaker 4: if if you could, at least give me the piece
Speaker 4: of being loyal and keeping it real with me to
Speaker 4: my face, that's more important, you know, Like you know,
Speaker 4: respect is a subjective.
Speaker 1: Loyalty is concrete. I'm gonna take a shot for that.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 3: We ain't spposed to take a shot, as you picked,
Speaker 3: take a shot. I'm taking a shot shot, Jamie. Pa
Speaker 3: know how many people claim look at social media, give me,
Speaker 3: give me one of them, give me one of his shots.
Speaker 1: Look at social I'm gonna take one of his. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the peach Man the peach is good man, the peach.
Speaker 1: That's the peach. We're going, got, We're going yeah, hold on,
Speaker 1: let me get a shot.
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, ain't gonna be chilled. None of that's gonna
Speaker 3: be thinking about solo follow us?
Speaker 1: You or people are people? What people die.
Speaker 4: Chasing respect respect that they would never get in the
Speaker 4: first place. And what respect are you looking for anyway?
Speaker 4: I don't understand it. I don't understand, Like what at
Speaker 4: what capacity? Is it three hundred and sixty degree respect
Speaker 4: of everything you do? Or is it I just respect
Speaker 4: you because you're funny, and but I don't respect how
Speaker 4: you handle your family.
Speaker 2: I don't respect you, know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And how you perceive respect of different every dingy exactly.
Speaker 1: It's subjective. Loyal is like that's my dude, right, And
Speaker 1: if I got a problem with my dude.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna talk to my dude. I ain't gonna talk
Speaker 4: to everybody else about it. I'm your dude, and I.
Speaker 1: Got it my You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: My boys, I handle I handle things like here like
Speaker 4: like this is bullshit, nah, homie, pull up right problem?
Speaker 1: Pull up? Yeah? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And that that's that's loyal and that's that's just I
Speaker 4: like to handle things like that, you know, like social
Speaker 4: media ruined.
Speaker 1: Respect got nothing to do with water, and it ain't.
Speaker 1: It's water from disrespect.
Speaker 3: It's a fire, yo, you because you want to seventeen
Speaker 3: different chest is on fire.
Speaker 5: No, the.
Speaker 1: That we you're smoking the.
Speaker 3: Amazing This whole night, I've been trying to read with
Speaker 3: your hat sets.
Speaker 4: But also Harley Davis and had Old Ventures dogs right
Speaker 4: and show yeahs is like Lizzie's.
Speaker 2: No yeah, I thought I was talking about cop pigs.
Speaker 1: My bad. You know, I'm green. I'm green. It's all good.
Speaker 1: I grew up on bikes, man, But I like benures
Speaker 1: clothing like I like this old painters that I picked up.
Speaker 1: These overalls is from the forties. Old milk delivery man
Speaker 1: from it looked like it from Maine, like yeah, like
Speaker 1: the bottled milk joints and change just getting it, man,
Speaker 1: what do you buy that from? I just got just
Speaker 1: That's what I do. Man. If I put up in
Speaker 1: the city, man, I'm trying to go find some old vintage.
Speaker 1: Have you gone somewhere here?
Speaker 2: What he said? He said, he goes to a state
Speaker 2: sales states state.
Speaker 1: Said, you know, furniture and ship. No, no, he got
Speaker 1: he grabbed. Oh.
Speaker 2: I don't want say old ladies, but it is.
Speaker 4: That's what it is, cold ladies, jewelry custom Yeah yeah, nah,
Speaker 4: I like I like, yeah, that's like oh oh, I'll
Speaker 4: go to Tiffany's ring for one hundred thoughts.
Speaker 2: Man, fuck all that ship.
Speaker 1: I like like old like like picks that are like
Speaker 1: I get something out of it too. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to give you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to come up.
Speaker 2: And know the thing is, Yeah, Kathy was definitely, I
Speaker 2: mean according to it.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to come up. I'm coming up
Speaker 1: like you know, hustlers man ship.
Speaker 3: Do you ever think that it's gonna be a time
Speaker 3: where country rock and roll and hip hop it's gonna
Speaker 3: all merge. I think that guy's name is yellow Wolf.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think it is.
Speaker 2: I think it is too, and I think it happened.
Speaker 4: I think it happened in nineteen seventy motherfucking nine, but
Speaker 4: gas in Alabama, right. You know what I'm saying at
Speaker 4: the Baptist Hospital, Sheila, Diane.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I came down here to do that of everything, and
Speaker 4: that's what I've done, period, point blank.
Speaker 1: This is the as far as that, as far as
Speaker 1: that's concern, roid, I am the tip of the pyramid
Speaker 1: period and uh and I and I say that respectfully
Speaker 1: for anyone who would say any different, do you research?
Speaker 1: You know it's all there.
Speaker 4: And also you know, not to mention the classic country
Speaker 4: hip hop ship that I've done with like why not
Speaker 4: a Judd?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'll go on to say, like you know, you know,
Speaker 1: going going to.
Speaker 4: With my blessings of Shooter Jennings and Jesse Coulter, going
Speaker 4: to see the Highwayman and meeting Chris Kristofferson and William
Speaker 4: Nilson and having those blessings in those moments with the
Speaker 4: country music, being on stage with Dwhite yoakum in Alabama
Speaker 4: when I was five years old at the June Jam
Speaker 4: at Fort Payne, Alabama, to run DMC walking through my
Speaker 4: motherfucking door when I was seven years old, all right,
Speaker 4: and you know, all the way up into rock and roll,
Speaker 4: whether it was Aerosmith and and then or Aerosmith or
Speaker 4: Ted Newsen or any of those guys, all all all
Speaker 4: those pieces of the puzzle formulated me into an artist.
Speaker 4: And the reason I take pride and and and feeling
Speaker 4: and knowing.
Speaker 1: That on the tip of the pyramid is because of
Speaker 1: how long it took me to learn how to blend
Speaker 1: those styles and to be that person. And like I said,
Speaker 1: I think kid Rock is the og to the beginning
Speaker 1: of it. Right.
Speaker 4: But let's be real, Bob didn't listen to Howard glyphics,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like, Bob wasn't listening to
Speaker 4: Bush Babies and DJs, S and S tapes and shopping
Speaker 4: fat beats and ship.
Speaker 1: But Kim Rock did come up, like he toured with
Speaker 1: Too Short, No, I know, like that. He came up
Speaker 1: in an era too Yeah, but it was a different era, yeah,
Speaker 1: the faith. It was a different era of did it
Speaker 1: makes sense? But he had it. It's a different era
Speaker 1: of lyricism for sure.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I'm like after outcasts, I'm after hieroglyphics, I'm after you know,
Speaker 4: I'm after nas, I'm after.
Speaker 1: The there's a certain there was a certain lift but
Speaker 1: into the culture. I don't take nothing from you.
Speaker 2: Did something else though, and I listen. I listened to
Speaker 2: an interview did with shout out to Justin Hunt from.
Speaker 1: Company Maker's move into Rock or Country.
Speaker 2: I'll just say that.
Speaker 1: Listen, so you're done.
Speaker 2: You did an interview with the company man and you
Speaker 2: you mentioned that you did street Team ship because I
Speaker 2: did Street Team Ship, and that does a lot for
Speaker 2: you to learn this, this industry from the grind, from
Speaker 2: the ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah did you what did you?
Speaker 2: Who did you do?
Speaker 1: Streets so so and ninety ninety nine?
Speaker 2: I was working for Uh, you'll love this.
Speaker 4: NOI I was working Wait, I was living at Queens
Speaker 4: and I was working for I was living, I was.
Speaker 1: I was working for your good quick dude. When you
Speaker 1: say off ninety as street Jay Train like, okay, So
Speaker 1: I don't even know what so so. But I worked
Speaker 1: in the city and I worked for a promotional company
Speaker 1: called Guerrilla Marketing, and so I one of my.
Speaker 4: Jobs was promoting autobiotics dayl I soul record.
Speaker 1: I worked that record too, did you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, so you have a street team Hold up, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, do you know about I worked for Tommy Boiler?
Speaker 2: Do you so?
Speaker 1: So I must have been one of the companies that
Speaker 1: Tommy Boy hired to do it? For sure? So I
Speaker 1: worked for you no, no, you didn't want.
Speaker 2: At one point I was one of the teams that
Speaker 2: I got hired as well direct through something.
Speaker 4: But I worked tom Boy A long line down the road,
Speaker 4: so they okay, so listen. I painted this huge canvas
Speaker 4: up their cover of a space space suit because I'm
Speaker 4: a mirror artist. That's how that was my project. That
Speaker 4: was my autob ONYX Crazy Souls. Man, come on, man
Speaker 4: love it. I love you guys. Yeah, of course, so
Speaker 4: I was. It was I was honored, right. I was
Speaker 4: just hyped about it. I'll painted canvas of the cover.
Speaker 4: So I painted this huge canvas. Then I put on
Speaker 4: a space suit and I walked around all of New
Speaker 4: York and all the Burroughs. I even went down to
Speaker 4: uh t r L on MTV and I was standing
Speaker 4: under t r L with a big dail. I sould
Speaker 4: auto hand painted canvas sign a space suit. I remember
Speaker 4: at one time crazy I remember at one point when
Speaker 4: I was going back to going back to Queens, I
Speaker 4: was on the j H and I was wearing a
Speaker 4: space suit, and this dude walked up to me, was
Speaker 4: on a bicycle, and and I had lifted I had
Speaker 4: lifted a little mask because I was over my promotions
Speaker 4: and plus it was hard to fucking breathe and uh,
Speaker 4: this dude walked up to me and said Daylight Soul
Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, man, I'm doing street promotions.
Speaker 1: That's what's up. Man, I'm stretching. I'm strong fucking connections
Speaker 1: to basically, you know what he said to me, you
Speaker 1: heard a new eminem record I Swear to God, I
Speaker 1: Swear to God.
Speaker 4: Well, he had a huge because we started talking about it.
Speaker 4: It's about hip hop and whatever, and I was like, nah,
Speaker 4: I heard it, dude. It's going to change the world.
Speaker 1: And this is a random conversation. You just me get
Speaker 1: on the same car on the same change. That's hip
Speaker 1: hop randomness. Yeah, it's super super crazy. That's why that's
Speaker 1: where I might stretch. But but hold on, this is
Speaker 1: what I want to say this.
Speaker 2: This is why this is important because oftentimes aspiring artists
Speaker 2: will listen to this and be like, oh man, you
Speaker 2: got from point A to point Z like you just
Speaker 2: jumped and I worked street team ship. That's a grind,
Speaker 2: but I was happy to do it because I was
Speaker 2: such a hip hop head.
Speaker 5: Yeah it's fun when I say, oh, I get this
Speaker 5: before anybody and I could distribute this and do this
Speaker 5: and put people on And the fact that you, even
Speaker 5: coming from the South, went to New York and you're
Speaker 5: in the Mecca and you're out.
Speaker 2: There putting on the gear, doing whatever it takes to
Speaker 2: be a part of the culture.
Speaker 1: That says a lot about you willing to put in
Speaker 1: the time and grind. Absolutely, I would have. I would have,
Speaker 1: and I did. I did everything that I.
Speaker 4: Knew how to do to immerse myself into the culture
Speaker 4: at his very core, at the very very fucking core.
Speaker 2: Man, there was that.
Speaker 4: There was times between my boy Rodney, between there was
Speaker 4: there was there was a sequence of people that ended
Speaker 4: me up at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: The shorter the long is me and Pete Rock kicking
Speaker 1: it in Harlem for a few days, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like him taking me to his favor bit
Speaker 1: fucking like have you doing with Pete Rock? No, I
Speaker 1: could hear that.
Speaker 4: I could hear that, But I wasn't ready back then.
Speaker 4: Dog Like I was just like paying my dues and
Speaker 4: like I just I was just being.
Speaker 1: My energy was forcing these situations into my life.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It was early on, It was early on. You were
Speaker 1: immature at that point, very very as MC.
Speaker 4: Not ready at all, but still like you know, like
Speaker 4: shaking hands with the gods, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: like tapping in, making sure I was there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, shout out Pete Rock Man.
Speaker 1: It's crucial. Everything you're saying is very important.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you.
Speaker 3: You know, me being you know, half black and half
Speaker 3: Puerto Rican, people always ask me like, like, you know,
Speaker 3: does it help being Puerto Rican?
Speaker 1: Do you think you being white helps you? Or does it?
Speaker 5: Is it? Is? It?
Speaker 4: Is it a crutch? It's both, man. I think in
Speaker 4: hip hop culture there's definitely like it's that whole white
Speaker 4: boy can jump ship. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: there's this white boy who could dunk, you know, he's
Speaker 4: like showing out in the gym and ship. It's like
Speaker 4: all white boy. Got this white boy. When I was
Speaker 4: growing up, dude, it was always white boy. That's all
Speaker 4: I ever heard. And you take you take the rockets? No, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: not at all, actually complete opposite. It was a term
Speaker 4: of endearment.
Speaker 1: Besides the obvious that was all day every day as well.
Speaker 4: But it was a term of endearment, so uh so,
Speaker 4: so yeah, I've always took it as like like if
Speaker 4: this is.
Speaker 1: If I'm special at this because I'm a white boy
Speaker 1: in this particular thing, like a white boy's killing it,
Speaker 1: or a white boy can fight, you know, white black
Speaker 1: white boy ain't scared of ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Or he's crazy white boy.
Speaker 4: We got crazy white boy like because I always, my
Speaker 4: whole crew was always black always. I grew up with gasten,
Speaker 4: with Hoover crips man like like man like rest in pea,
Speaker 4: shoddy fat man.
Speaker 1: I used to just be in in the chevy ready
Speaker 1: for whatever, you know what I mean. Like that was me.
Speaker 4: That was my life, fucking pull up, fucking little bootsy
Speaker 4: shows and whoever was coming to town.
Speaker 2: And like, I just grew up around a.
Speaker 4: Rowdy group of people and I had this also this
Speaker 4: like this very like stark reality of country rednecks. You know,
Speaker 4: you gotta remember, I'm in Alabama, so.
Speaker 1: The hood is very the hoods are it's like trailer
Speaker 1: parks and projects.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you know what I'm saying, I do,
Speaker 4: but we all live on this same financial level steep
Speaker 4: and so in that way, he either fuck with each
Speaker 4: other or you don't.
Speaker 1: Now, I was a part of the crew that did. Right,
Speaker 1: So when white boy, when the whole white boy thinking,
Speaker 1: I used to get pissed, white boy, you talking about
Speaker 1: my mom My mother is Blackfoot and Cherokee and white.
Speaker 1: My father's Cherokee, Blackfoot, mostly Cherokee. Don't fucking call me
Speaker 1: a white boy. I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm not that simple, you know. But then it became
Speaker 4: a source of empowerment. Are you gonna you you're now,
Speaker 4: You're now, you're now. You're giving me this label and
Speaker 4: you're offering me this opportunity to use it.
Speaker 1: So I did? That was it?
Speaker 4: And you know, in a sense, it's like it's a
Speaker 4: double edged sword. It's like it's like cutting through. But
Speaker 4: at the same time, like why Like you know, it's
Speaker 4: also like like I hear some some new white mcs
Speaker 4: out talking about that the best white rapper. That's disgusting.
Speaker 4: You're already canceled when you say that, you're already done.
Speaker 4: Are you the best white rapper? Well, you probably are
Speaker 4: the best white rapper, But what the fuck does that matter?
Speaker 4: Whyon't you be the best in seed?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 4: And like and and so I never you know, the
Speaker 4: reason I went at g E z On on that
Speaker 4: record Bloody Sunday is because he had met while I
Speaker 4: was signed to Shady. He said, I'm the best white
Speaker 4: rapper since the one with die blonde hair or some
Speaker 4: shit like that.
Speaker 1: And I was like, what, dude, Hold the fuck up.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Like why would you even say that?
Speaker 1: First of all?
Speaker 2: And second of all, excuse me?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So and so I think that it is a double
Speaker 4: edged sword, you know, like we can't deny our cultural uh,
Speaker 4: the way that people perceive us culturally. If you and
Speaker 4: I walk into a room, you're black, I'm white in
Speaker 4: the story, you know what I'm saying, like to everyone else,
Speaker 4: just to the world, you know, and that's cool, Like
Speaker 4: we'll take it, you know, but we're deeper than that man.
Speaker 1: We got more to offer than that ship man. And
Speaker 1: let's poor a shot of that man.
Speaker 2: That man.
Speaker 6: Let man, that's a shot, Jamie, because because it just
Speaker 6: be the fucking best, don't be the best of whatever,
Speaker 6: should be fucking dope, because no matter what you.
Speaker 3: Do, you know, you know we were we were so
Speaker 3: excited when we we booked you and we had you
Speaker 3: locked in.
Speaker 2: I just poured my drink into my shots.
Speaker 1: Okay, we see you.
Speaker 3: It's not okay, but I'm taking a shot.
Speaker 1: Where my fucking bartender. Ye, she's your bartender.
Speaker 2: Get Jamie.
Speaker 1: Sorry, he's paying episode Jamie because thank you, Yes, babe?
Speaker 2: Can we can we put the well?
Speaker 1: Please? Just want to be part next to my ship?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Okay, cinnamon, it's the cinnamon and the peach.
Speaker 2: It's a thing, man.
Speaker 1: It's like because like a nice car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we were so excited, like we had
Speaker 3: you booked, right, So I'm going to do a research,
Speaker 3: thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I continue to see that it is a certain thing
Speaker 1: like what not.
Speaker 2: What what? What?
Speaker 3: White rappers going at each other? Right, And it's just
Speaker 3: like it's just just what it is. Right. And then
Speaker 3: it's not only that everyone compares theirself to Eminem. Well,
Speaker 3: everyone wants to say that that you're not Eminem, You're
Speaker 3: not the next Eminem. So that's the reason why I
Speaker 3: asked it, like, is that is that? Is that something
Speaker 3: that's like like cringing, you know what.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's absolutely ridiculous. It's an absolutely ridiculous statement
Speaker 4: for someone to say that, like how dare you compare
Speaker 4: someone to Marshall, how dare you that motherfucker?
Speaker 2: He did that?
Speaker 4: He is his own human man, Like, Like, what what
Speaker 4: are you gonna say? What you're gonna say about Snoop Dog?
Speaker 4: You're gonna do the same thing as Snoop Dog?
Speaker 2: You never you never ever.
Speaker 5: Never.
Speaker 1: Stylistically, you guys are so different. Yeah, I mean general
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's just.
Speaker 2: Start there, like stylistically, like there's no certa for me.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm from the South, bro, I have a bounce.
Speaker 4: I got a bounce fire all right, I got an
Speaker 4: I could keep up. I got bounced.
Speaker 1: Man. I was raised in a.
Speaker 4: Different pocket of hip hop lyrically, melodically.
Speaker 1: The way I approach the track is completely different. And
Speaker 1: but that's why I became part of the crew because
Speaker 1: I wasn't like him, you know what I mean, it's
Speaker 1: like the only reason why exactly he was it was
Speaker 1: like him, Like that was just different.
Speaker 3: It would have been stupid for you know what, Like
Speaker 3: you can rhyme like that, but you you have your
Speaker 3: own ship. That's what I said earlier in the interview,
Speaker 3: was like I can't put you in a box at all,
Speaker 3: Like like I wouldn't be surprised if you fucking made
Speaker 3: a record with Mickey Mouse, because I mean that with
Speaker 3: the aspect is because.
Speaker 2: Disney cut the chae.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean respect because you can you can your
Speaker 3: style to me, this is me, This is this is
Speaker 3: me personally.
Speaker 1: Is like you have you said you set up, you
Speaker 1: said up the best disc for a rapper ever.
Speaker 2: You could do a record with Mickey Mouse. Oh you
Speaker 2: talking about No.
Speaker 1: No, don't take it like that. I'm taking it in
Speaker 1: a good way. Listen.
Speaker 3: What I'm trying to say is what I'm trying to
Speaker 3: say is you can actually rhyme to anything that is.
Speaker 1: You're so is dumb it down, speed it up, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to.
Speaker 3: Do to me, compliment, thank you like me when I rhyme.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you this crazy ship. I forget who
Speaker 3: told me this, but he was like, if you can't
Speaker 3: say one rhyme to every single beat, then you're not MC.
Speaker 3: So what I would do is try to have one
Speaker 3: rhyme fit every beat, and I could never ever do
Speaker 3: that ship. But with you, when I listened to your ship,
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, maybe you're not doing the
Speaker 3: same one rhyme, but you can actually rhyme to any
Speaker 3: beat has ever been a beat that somebody gave you
Speaker 3: that you couldn't rhyme too?
Speaker 4: I know you, absolutely not, not even not even a
Speaker 4: not even a like a like a three four three
Speaker 4: fort beat. So I was like, the record I did
Speaker 4: what on a judd was a waltz, but it was
Speaker 4: a waltz.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bet is called a waltz. It was a waltz.
Speaker 1: It was a waltz.
Speaker 4: It's like a three four and it changes every so
Speaker 4: it's not four four, it's three four, so it changes
Speaker 4: every three bars.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: And so no, there's not there's not a record. No,
Speaker 2: there's nothing.
Speaker 1: That's the first time and Will Power can attest to that.
Speaker 1: Will I know that.
Speaker 2: We Will has said that for years. He's like, do
Speaker 2: you well, but you know what, well, you got to
Speaker 2: make him a crazy beat that he can't funk.
Speaker 3: There's no there's nothing. Something will take something I can
Speaker 3: I was his music, and I kid you not, I can't.
Speaker 3: I was literally was like, if I see him this beat,
Speaker 3: he can rhyme to that. If I see him he
Speaker 3: can hyme to that? You think you think that's what
Speaker 3: you're in the box.
Speaker 2: Southern artist has that that's superpower man, because because the
Speaker 2: bounce thing. Because Southern artists tend to be able to right,
Speaker 2: I don't believe him, ask him the question.
Speaker 8: No, there's there is something to that. There is something
Speaker 8: to so because not to cut you, but real quick,
Speaker 8: a Southern artist, Southern hip hop artists were getting all
Speaker 8: your time.
Speaker 2: They grew up on all different styles of beats, different bpms,
Speaker 2: the Two Life Crews, whatever, whatever you want to do it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like whatever style, and they've
Speaker 2: rhymed all their styles. So they've learned all these different
Speaker 2: types of flows and speeds. Do you think that's anything too?
Speaker 2: But he's talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there there's definitely something to that. But
Speaker 1: you know, rap is only you know, hip hop is
Speaker 1: really yo. Listen, the Double went down to Georgia. He
Speaker 1: was looking for a soul to steal. He was in
Speaker 1: the bond, he was way behind. He was looking to
Speaker 1: make a deal. Like in that hip hop. That's not
Speaker 1: hip hop, that's like hip hop. Know, so hip hop
Speaker 1: is defined by his musical bed. Rap. The art of
Speaker 1: rap is old, old, old, old, right all.
Speaker 4: The way back to old blues Robert Johnson. And like
Speaker 4: I was talking about muddy waters. The art of rapping
Speaker 4: over music is not nothing new. Now what we what
Speaker 4: hip hop defined I want to say, what I would say,
Speaker 4: what hip hop defined it with was the musical bed.
Speaker 4: This is the hip hop sound, you know. And by
Speaker 4: the way, speaking of bob around with cool hert, I
Speaker 4: got a question for you guys, speaking question the origins
Speaker 4: of hip hop as what I want to ask you.
Speaker 3: Okay, damn, you're gonna put me on the spot. You
Speaker 3: want to go with the great hair gouy.
Speaker 1: First, and I got your But the chops in the
Speaker 1: melody before we get to that part.
Speaker 4: The chops in the melody ability to transform into other rhythms,
Speaker 4: and ship comes from.
Speaker 1: There's two parts. Really.
Speaker 4: The melody comes from rock and roll, in classic rock
Speaker 4: and roll. Mostly the slang, the slang and the bending
Speaker 4: of words comes from country. The chops come from bluegrass.
Speaker 1: Make make a big a big a big a bike
Speaker 1: a bike a big big a big big big big
Speaker 1: a big a big.
Speaker 4: Want and all that is all that is like bluegrass,
Speaker 4: all right, And so so all those pieces I brought,
Speaker 4: you gotta understand when I like the reason I brought
Speaker 4: everything that was from on my plate to the table
Speaker 4: is because it's because when I listened nor when I
Speaker 4: when I listened to Wu Sang Clan, I wanted to
Speaker 4: go to Sholand.
Speaker 1: That's the point.
Speaker 4: When I listened to n w A, I wanted to
Speaker 4: go to listen to mob Deep, I wanted to go
Speaker 4: to Queen's Bridge.
Speaker 1: I listen to listen to motherfucking Outcasts.
Speaker 4: I want to go to Atlanta. I listen to fucking
Speaker 4: a ball m j G. I want to go to Memphis.
Speaker 4: I want to go to Texas when I listen to
Speaker 4: to Miami. So I wanted to put a region and
Speaker 4: how and I'll bring all of that ship into into that,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And that was my mission.
Speaker 4: Thank god I caught the error because now it's all
Speaker 4: fucked up. Everybody sounds the same these days, man, Like
Speaker 4: where you're getting your influence with Japan?
Speaker 2: Japan?
Speaker 1: Motherfucker? You live in Arkansas, Japan? How you get that
Speaker 1: sound like motherfucker is on some K pop ship right now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: With it? You really do.
Speaker 2: I don't believe you, not.
Speaker 1: One fucking bit. I've kept the out of here. You
Speaker 1: fuck with the show group I don't even know one,
Speaker 1: but no, listen hit me out.
Speaker 3: The show on Netflix called Space. Was it called Space
Speaker 3: with the guy from forty year Old Virgin Invaders? No,
Speaker 3: it's like Space Force Space, Steve Carell, Steve Carrell, K Pop.
Speaker 1: I can't I remember that right now, Steve Carell hit
Speaker 1: me out.
Speaker 3: So in the episode they're driving and they're.
Speaker 1: Listening to K pop. Your story is ridiculous, right, you say.
Speaker 2: Sorry?
Speaker 1: Listen? So in that in them the series, they played
Speaker 1: the fucking brother it's a long one.
Speaker 3: Record and I liked it, and I fucking girl singing
Speaker 3: that's he's gonna Sam. I ain't doing none of that.
Speaker 2: But you should do a remix with them.
Speaker 1: You guy, the guy who said, all right, it's.
Speaker 2: True, it's true.
Speaker 3: I didn't believe it. He hated his own people. No,
Speaker 3: it wasn't hate people. It wasn't hate you know again,
Speaker 3: we don't want explanation no more.
Speaker 1: You're wrong. You ridiculous told me your first dad.
Speaker 2: But let's go.
Speaker 1: It's a hundred million spins go to.
Speaker 2: Really, yes, and I went through with you to you
Speaker 2: started some very good after that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, So okay, so you said you
Speaker 3: you went to the house Eminem you elbowed him.
Speaker 1: But we didn't. Actually, yeah, went way back. He's back
Speaker 1: in some chat. You went back up.
Speaker 3: We didn't talk about the actual session with Bob.
Speaker 1: I don't want to.
Speaker 3: You and Bob had the session right there. No, that
Speaker 3: was just so lit meeting to say you can do
Speaker 3: elbow Eminem. You almost lost your deal.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, now you're getting this session, yo, yo,
Speaker 1: Like Eminem is sober, right, I'm gonna take a piss
Speaker 1: on your so I like, I like drug admine.
Speaker 3: Is that bad of me?
Speaker 1: No, that's that's not I mean, that's not inaccurate. Now
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm say like when he talking about that all the time,
Speaker 4: he's gonna, I don't look. Man's sober is a lifestyle.
Speaker 4: Be sober and yo, live your life. It's all good.
Speaker 4: I've got some homies close to me, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean that. I'm like, dog, drink a beer. There's something,
Speaker 4: do something. You're weird, you know what I mean, get weird.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go that far, but I do say ship
Speaker 1: like that. You're gonna call your friends.
Speaker 8: Did I think.
Speaker 1: The white version of you?
Speaker 2: I think if I was born in Alabama.
Speaker 3: And I had tattoos, I would pay you because I
Speaker 3: tell motherfuckers, get your life together and drink a beer.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, we might be the same. You might do.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about that, because I say this all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 3: And my friend Diego, one of my closest friends, he's
Speaker 3: over there, he's he's he's my he's I don't want
Speaker 3: to say, my white friend.
Speaker 1: He's my friend, white friend.
Speaker 3: But we actually go and we listen to eminem and
Speaker 3: we listen to the two different versions of eminem. So
Speaker 3: and then we we always sit there and debate. People
Speaker 3: say that black people don't listen to eminem as fuck lies. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm one of them, and you can attest to that.
Speaker 1: I don't think that is. I don't think it's they don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think black people don't listen to eminem. I
Speaker 1: don't think that it's it's it's just not part A
Speaker 1: lot of times that ain't party music, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's not some ship that you you're bumping.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't it doesn't mean that you're not like,
Speaker 1: what's the new ship listening? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: There is a difference there.
Speaker 1: The ship that you ride to, the ship that I
Speaker 1: ride to It's different from the ship that I put
Speaker 1: headphones on and listen to intently. Artistically, the ship that
Speaker 1: you ride to is like like you know, like like
Speaker 1: I'm I might ride to Bob Jas Aims or some ship.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm not bumping the latest whatever.
Speaker 8: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like what I put in my car and what I
Speaker 1: ride to, what I party to, that's two different things.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you make music like for people just to digest artistically,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You heard Eminem's new record, I Gotta piss You got
Speaker 3: to piss on death hold on.
Speaker 1: Someone's in the bathroom.
Speaker 2: Record.
Speaker 1: I got pissed. I love it of course.
Speaker 3: Now let me tell you how simplistic I am again,
Speaker 3: Like what I told you about k pop.
Speaker 1: Now you know why I like.
Speaker 3: Eminem's new record because it's K pop? Because I heard
Speaker 3: that mute that record on Balls of Fury.
Speaker 1: I don't get it in the movie, huh.
Speaker 3: That same record that he sampled was in Balls of Fury.
Speaker 3: No one's seen Balls of Fury head. Oh wait see,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm I'm the whitest person here right now.
Speaker 3: I'm just being honest. Nobody no want to see more
Speaker 3: of furiod.
Speaker 1: I don't watch Oh my god, I literally don't watch anything.
Speaker 4: You don't wait wait a minute, Well, I only turn
Speaker 4: on the TV when I go to sleep and I
Speaker 4: use it as a background.
Speaker 1: I don't watch nothing. I think I've never heard that
Speaker 1: in my life. I just don't. Man, I ain't got
Speaker 1: time for that. Working too hard, yo, I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to sun anyone or to watch the things nice seeing
Speaker 1: that if I go to the movie open, if you
Speaker 1: need to go, if I need, you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: I don't mind. The question is gone. Question is gone.
Speaker 1: I don't care. That's the question.
Speaker 3: You want to take a shot just because, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Just take a shot, take a take a shot, and
Speaker 2: take a piss again.
Speaker 1: We got I'm good for another two hours, so you
Speaker 1: gotta actually my out that.
Speaker 2: Oh here we go.
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, I don't got a shot. Hold on?
Speaker 1: Hold up? Monster Energy? Can you say? Can you tell
Speaker 1: we sponsored by Monster? Because I was with Monster? I
Speaker 1: love you know with them?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 4: No, not well, not for any bad but they This
Speaker 4: was one of the best sponsors ever and I appreciate
Speaker 4: listen man. Shout out to Monster for supporting me through
Speaker 4: my first warp tour, my Warped.
Speaker 1: Tour was it was a life changing experience.
Speaker 4: They helped pay for my bus, you know, and like
Speaker 4: they supported my stage, like the marketing team and Monster Man.
Speaker 1: They really helped me out.
Speaker 4: And like I know that a lot of corporations people
Speaker 4: get them fucked up, you know, they they take them
Speaker 4: for like you know, everything is like some kind of
Speaker 4: gain and they I'm telling you, this was a really
Speaker 4: great company that helped me out, like and they inspired
Speaker 4: me to So, hey, monster thanks, thanks for the years.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the check sake so that you cut that
Speaker 1: fed my family. Where oh man, So we did we
Speaker 1: actually we didn't talk about the actual session with with
Speaker 1: Hey man, I need you guys ought to try some
Speaker 1: Mama Juana, God damn it, ready for this.
Speaker 2: Let's shot?
Speaker 1: Take a shot? Take a shot, man. What y'all doing
Speaker 1: over where your shot class? Well, yeah, we'll y'all playing
Speaker 1: cards or something. Somebody over there eating bad hey anybody?
Speaker 1: Yea he take take the bottle to put your own
Speaker 1: shot there you go, yoh, calling you out over there
Speaker 1: eating salad?
Speaker 2: Salad, man, this is too early for a salad bro.
Speaker 2: They salad talking the salad is for the morning.
Speaker 1: Bro, who's bringing whiskey over over in the Greek salad
Speaker 1: kind of salad? You over there? Who's eating a salad constantly?
Speaker 2: Mexican salad?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's up, mister Lee. It is a Dominican
Speaker 1: salad salu So alright, I got you, man?
Speaker 2: So what is this?
Speaker 1: What are we drinking?
Speaker 2: Is mama juana? Just enjoy it?
Speaker 1: Just enjoy it, favor favorite Okay, It's like I can
Speaker 1: watch them but different tipped off fullar man. My manager
Speaker 1: takes people on the Highwaska trip. You'll you know what
Speaker 1: I've been wanting to know what. I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 1: with you me just once.
Speaker 3: The first time we ever had yeaga meister, did you
Speaker 3: did you request the yagomeister?
Speaker 1: I'll take you who got your Yeah? Look at that?
Speaker 2: Look at this dude, Look at this.
Speaker 1: Look at him coming in. He's coming in hot.
Speaker 2: The label's peeling off the ringer.
Speaker 1: You picked this ship up from the seven eleven.
Speaker 2: Ship is bootleg?
Speaker 3: Ain't even I'm something to admit to you what I'm
Speaker 3: admitted to everyone here. I always wanted, like white friends,
Speaker 3: I could drink yeager wood, right, so.
Speaker 1: I never had chill chill, chill, listen, So but I'm
Speaker 1: not home right after the yegger shot. I used to go.
Speaker 3: I used to go places and be like and be like,
Speaker 3: I swear to God, I used to do this small
Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed about it.
Speaker 1: And I would be like, I.
Speaker 3: Would order like I would see like some white people at.
Speaker 1: The bar, and I'd be like, let me get a jager.
Speaker 1: That's what I used to do in the college with
Speaker 1: my frat boys.
Speaker 2: And he was lying for your teeth.
Speaker 3: But I would take the yaeger and then drop it
Speaker 3: in the beer and then be like, oh, well you do.
Speaker 1: Younger barbers well red bulls. No, I would drop it
Speaker 1: in the beer. I was a foul dude. Listen, yer
Speaker 1: bos red ball. Okay, are you're giving me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Of course I'm sitting you. Yeah, you give him here,
Speaker 1: you want some No, let's go, let's go, don't go walking.
Speaker 2: Give you the bo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because I do you know damn, oh you gotta.
Speaker 8: You know what?
Speaker 1: Okay, let me get a clean one.
Speaker 2: Yeah right right there, buddy, Oh ship, I got give
Speaker 2: me that, just clean, so I.
Speaker 1: Don't get it's dirty? Is cool? Cool? Monster bolls? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's on white boys. Ship.
Speaker 2: That's that's on White boy Ship.
Speaker 1: You want to come demonstrate?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, all right, okay, so we did, so
Speaker 3: let's listen. Let's talk about this session though. All right
Speaker 3: you finally get in are y'all together? You and k
Speaker 3: sending it sendate nah?
Speaker 2: So the idea was so.
Speaker 1: So fool beer like okay, So, like I said, okay,
Speaker 1: o listen. So when we okay, the.
Speaker 3: Reason when you walked into said happy birthday, exactly.
Speaker 4: Happy birthday, Happy one of the one of the best
Speaker 4: things ever said. And I'm carrying on shout out to
Speaker 4: Sea Bear.
Speaker 1: Sea Bear Courtney sells I love you so much you
Speaker 1: got which is uh yeah, that's it's me. He said.
Speaker 4: So when we got signed to uh to Interscope and
Speaker 4: when the Shady deal happened, right, and I was like,
Speaker 4: you know me and will Power forget it, dude, we
Speaker 4: could put an album out a week if we wanted to.
Speaker 1: I'm not even shitting you, man, Like it's like we
Speaker 1: he writes music and I record versus you know.
Speaker 4: Usually at the most we spent on a song three hours,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, from like act from nothing
Speaker 4: to done.
Speaker 1: So like we were real quick. So they're like so
Speaker 1: KP's like, let's do an album. I was like, say,
Speaker 1: let's let's go fucking do album. We're just on a
Speaker 1: shady But the.
Speaker 4: Thing is like we wanted to do an album, turn
Speaker 4: it in without Marshall knowing we even did album at all,
Speaker 4: because the point was like here you go, dog, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, surprise right. So we called Molly ma and
Speaker 4: Las Vegas. I don't know if you're on whom Molly
Speaker 4: ma is was your entrepreneur and he had.
Speaker 1: I did what show I did with him? Yeah, Molly
Speaker 1: ma I did what marriage? Yeah? Yeah, And we pulled
Speaker 1: and we pulled. I'm not shipting you man, I'm not shareing.
Speaker 1: We put up. We put them at the studio in
Speaker 1: Vegas back then, and Monkey, oh dog, I got a
Speaker 1: story Bubbs the monkey. Oh bro, you' I know Bubbs,
Speaker 1: that little motherfucker. I hate. I hate Bubbs with a passion.
Speaker 1: My god, I've never heard somebody say we have problems.
Speaker 1: Me and Bubbs had problems. He ain't no ship at
Speaker 1: you or not. Bro, Listen this little bitch ass motherfucker
Speaker 1: dog Listen.
Speaker 4: So Molly's like, well, first of all, he wrote the
Speaker 4: Red Carpet out for and poo Bear is living in
Speaker 4: his house. Who Bear is living with Molly Ma, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So pool Bear is a part
Speaker 4: of sessions writing. And if you don't know, poo Beer
Speaker 4: is a fucking hit songwriter man. She is many many,
Speaker 4: many hits. And he's the fucking just the energy he's got,
Speaker 4: He's an energy god. He's just like the best guy ever.
Speaker 4: So so he so he's helping with the writing of
Speaker 4: my my Freshman albul So and and he's family with
Speaker 4: my manager at the time, Courtney Steels Sea Bear. So
Speaker 4: it's me Sea Bear, kp will Power, Shotty Fat, rest
Speaker 4: in Peace, and Fifee Dobson, which would be which would
Speaker 4: then soon.
Speaker 1: After become my wife. Well Fife Dobson.
Speaker 4: If you're not familiar, get familiar, classic rock and roll,
Speaker 4: fucking legend from Scarborough, Toronto, Canada, multi platinum artists, fucking
Speaker 4: like one of the one of the most influential artists
Speaker 4: in the world.
Speaker 1: Just want to give her flowers, like you give your mind.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, Pepe Dobson next.
Speaker 4: But we're there and I'm with okay, but getting back
Speaker 4: to the Boves saying I'm with I'm with Fifi and
Speaker 4: Molly Malls like take my crib.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: He's like he like skips out. He's like a g
Speaker 1: like I give you a driver. Here's a may box.
Speaker 1: Do this, you know, and do all this?
Speaker 2: You know, I do whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, you just have fun. There's a big shark
Speaker 1: in a in a tank in the middle of his
Speaker 1: fucking house. He's got a fucking I swear.
Speaker 4: To guy, I'm not joking, bro. There's there's like a leopard,
Speaker 4: like a loose leopard. Yeah, yeah, you know if you
Speaker 4: got sort.
Speaker 1: But Scott for Scott to yo yo yo, so fucking
Speaker 1: so so there's this fucking just connected.
Speaker 2: It's like because this is you know, really it's real.
Speaker 1: You can't make that ship.
Speaker 2: You can't make this ship up.
Speaker 3: I'm taking another shot. I'm sorry, all right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: It's you who's doing this though, you know you gotta
Speaker 3: take it.
Speaker 1: Suck yer, I'm not. Oh, you want to drink Champs
Speaker 1: and it's drink.
Speaker 18: Champs and it's whatever you want to drink. It's whatever
Speaker 18: we want to drink. Hold on Champ, I take a
Speaker 18: little We don't do that. But can you tell you
Speaker 18: a story?
Speaker 1: Molly? Sorry, Molly, you have Mali Crib the monkey.
Speaker 2: Market so so so I love you. Your monkey is
Speaker 2: a bitch.
Speaker 1: Fuck him, I hate him.
Speaker 2: Yo, this is this this little motherfucker dude.
Speaker 1: So so Fifi and I are standing in the guest
Speaker 1: room and Fifi's like, on to fucking play with Bubbs
Speaker 1: and your wife, right, your wife? Yes, okay, right, So
Speaker 1: I opened up the cage.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying on my own accord, this
Speaker 4: is a massive mansion. You don't understand. Like it's like
Speaker 4: it's like walking into the fucking Smithsnian.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: There's a goddamn shark, there's a fucking there's all kinds
Speaker 4: of dumb ship going on, and there's a fucking monkey
Speaker 4: within a cage.
Speaker 2: We're in Vegas.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. A week, open that bitch up,
Speaker 1: open the cage. I let Bubbs out, and Bubbs on
Speaker 1: on Feefe's shoulder and starts fucking caressing her, and she's like.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's the best, He's the best.
Speaker 1: No, No, I was cool with it.
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, Bubbs, and I want to pet him,
Speaker 4: and started look, Feefee starts she thinks it's funny.
Speaker 5: So we go.
Speaker 2: So we go back to bed. I'm like, we got
Speaker 2: this time, Bubbs got to go to.
Speaker 1: Best It's night night bus.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, This time.
Speaker 19: For us to get rid of Bubs. So, but Bubbs
Speaker 19: refuses to leave. You can't get it back in the cage.
Speaker 19: Bubbs is possessive.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, Monkeys are strong. If
Speaker 1: you think a house cat is strong, try fucking with
Speaker 1: a monkey, then little mothers are strong as a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Bro I would think is a monkey fucker. I was like, yo, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm like, time to go to your cage. Bugs.
Speaker 4: This little bitch is in a diaper and I want
Speaker 4: to grab him, and he fucking scurry to cross my
Speaker 4: body and he was at my ankles before I can
Speaker 4: fucking realize he even left her shoulder and by the
Speaker 4: time I look back up, he was back on her
Speaker 4: shoulder again, like bitch. And I swear to God, I
Speaker 4: was like, I was like, you gotta you gotta let somehow,
Speaker 4: you gotta go. I'm over the idea of sex. I
Speaker 4: just want to go to bed, I'm saying, So you
Speaker 4: gotta get this bitch out there. So so she goes
Speaker 4: to release his buzz right outside of these doors and
Speaker 4: keep them married. When I tell you, like, if you
Speaker 4: think outside of the fucking too closed doors a marble palace.
Speaker 1: Bro So, Bubbs is loose. So she lays back down.
Speaker 4: I said, what did you do with Bubbs? She said, oh,
Speaker 4: I just let him go. I was like, what you
Speaker 4: mean you let him go? There's a fucking leopard walking around, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Bubbs. Bro So we so I'm fucking at this point hammered.
Speaker 1: And I go to sleep and I wake up fully
Speaker 1: aware of what happened. I'm like, Bubbs, oh fuck, And
Speaker 1: I'm thinking and and the and the and the and
Speaker 1: the and the the cheetah name with Isis? Oh you
Speaker 1: want you want Ice?
Speaker 4: I walked in I I walked in Isis's room by
Speaker 4: by accident. This bitch was laid on a fucking like
Speaker 4: big ass, fucking beautiful bed stat me shoulder fangs and
Speaker 4: ship like, get out of my room, like like fuck.
Speaker 4: This bitch was an angry, fucking fucking He had timber
Speaker 4: Wolves outside.
Speaker 3: Wait, timber Wolf is a thing, a basketball team which animal.
Speaker 2: Molly had.
Speaker 1: There was a it was like a tiger shark in
Speaker 1: a in a in a fucking aquarium. Size is his
Speaker 1: fucking room in the center of his house. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like it was fucked up. It was
Speaker 1: fucked up.
Speaker 2: So anyway, She's like, yeah, I let Bubbs go. I
Speaker 2: was like, what where is he?
Speaker 4: Because, like Molly, at this point, my dog, he gave
Speaker 4: us everything, he gave me the responsibility of bugs, and
Speaker 4: I've lost him.
Speaker 1: I've lost your monkey, monkey result and dude.
Speaker 4: For like two hours, dog, we scoured around this goddamn
Speaker 4: house and I swore to God at isis eight Bubbs.
Speaker 1: I was like that he's dead.
Speaker 4: Isis has devoured that monkey, and I don't know how
Speaker 4: I could ever repay him. I don't got the money
Speaker 4: to buy this man another monkey, nor nor does he
Speaker 4: even want another monkey. That's his favorite monkey, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So so as we scoured the house,
Speaker 4: we fucking looked to the left. This little bitch he
Speaker 4: had been hiding behind. Don't God knows what man, motherfucker
Speaker 4: scurried up and got up in his cage and closed
Speaker 4: his cage.
Speaker 2: He closed his cage.
Speaker 1: Word, monkey was fucking with me? Fuck Bob, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Hold hold on.
Speaker 10: Six, Molly, Yeah, Molly, you drink chance right now, Molly.
Speaker 2: Yo, Yo, Molly, and listen like I could listens clowny,
Speaker 2: but I can still. I still know your faith, Yo.
Speaker 1: Listen, yeah listen. I was telling him the story about
Speaker 1: bubbs and ices. Oh yeah, yeah man, it's not supposed
Speaker 1: to happen. When it happened, Yeah, that sposed to have it.
Speaker 1: Where you at? Man, you look like you were.
Speaker 2: About how when you gottle girl.
Speaker 1: He was like, He's like, he's like validating my story.
Speaker 2: Say what.
Speaker 19: Remember when you guys with that girl from Canada and
Speaker 19: she was like fuck you, I'll go fuck the monkey.
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't tell that.
Speaker 2: I was trying to tell you the monkey was getting
Speaker 2: mad getting a business. The monkey was getting a business.
Speaker 1: Yo. Oh my god. I was like, chill, he still young,
Speaker 1: he still got the diaper.
Speaker 2: On you talking about yo, the monkey.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: He said, chill, you got some diaper.
Speaker 1: Yo. Man, Like we go back, man, just like you know,
Speaker 1: we're in the middle of filming right now.
Speaker 2: But I love you man.
Speaker 1: Yo. Yeah hey look yo, no for real, for real,
Speaker 1: Like I'm dead serious man. You my mama, my mama
Speaker 1: would want want me to tell you this.
Speaker 4: Man like you know, we fucking love You know, Mama
Speaker 4: loves you a lot, man, Like I just want to
Speaker 4: let you calls me all the time.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 4: I know that Mama stays in touch with all the boys, man,
Speaker 4: so like she she talks about you all the time.
Speaker 2: Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We just sent in love. Man, that's it.
Speaker 4: Hit you.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, I'm here. Listen.
Speaker 3: You ain't posted, don't count if you posted. I was like,
Speaker 3: all love my brother later. All right, but brother, you
Speaker 3: have a great day. That ship that was great. That
Speaker 3: was hilarious, yo.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we're not gonna talk about the kid rock
Speaker 3: session because you we just it's about Daddy's like kid
Speaker 3: talking about Yes, please about it because I was together, correct.
Speaker 4: No, man, it is one of the most interesting records
Speaker 4: that I've had. Is the hardest record that I ever
Speaker 4: had to do while I was signed to Marshall, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like, it's it's important people know, man, like especially you're
Speaker 1: a young artist coming up. All right.
Speaker 3: So so anyway, is that arguably your biggest record? Hell no, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm bad. You know what is what is my big fuck?
Speaker 2: That ship?
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm with wherever you want to go. It's It
Speaker 4: was amazing. It was a huge record for me. I'm
Speaker 4: very very thankful. It's not my biggest record, but it was.
Speaker 4: It was a very important record record. I got more
Speaker 4: from it as an artist and as a you know,
Speaker 4: young like a student, than I did out from the
Speaker 4: actual song itself. Song did great, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: but what I learned as an artist or something else.
Speaker 4: So so Bob records this hook? Uh so the record? Okay,
Speaker 4: going back, we who Bear wrote that hook for Bob?
Speaker 4: I mean he wrote he wrote the hook on the
Speaker 4: Bob and and so when we turned in and we
Speaker 4: returned that when that hook after you know I told
Speaker 4: you about like Marshall taking me to Bob's.
Speaker 1: You know what, I like introducing me to hit Marshall
Speaker 1: all the saying.
Speaker 4: So so so Bob agreed to do a record where
Speaker 4: we had a record set up already, which was a
Speaker 4: record that Pooh Bear wrote the hook.
Speaker 1: God damn, what was the song? Roll out? Let's well
Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm throwed off, got a lot of money,
Speaker 1: I'm eisowd off. I made my own lane list roll.
Speaker 4: So yeah, So that that was the hook that was
Speaker 4: written by poo Bear and recorded at Molly's studio.
Speaker 1: Man, he's cool, cool, cool, Okay, cool.
Speaker 2: My friend. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: So so anyway, so the mission now is to get
Speaker 4: Bob to record the to the to record the hook
Speaker 4: and pool Bears hook, pool Bear's hook.
Speaker 1: Okay, usually do other people's hook and pool Bears from
Speaker 1: the South. All right, So there's a certain inflection with
Speaker 1: his I made my own lane list broll.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a certain like, but that's there's an
Speaker 2: impaction rock usually done other people's like right for him?
Speaker 1: Is he used to? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, I ain't know that Bob like Bob. Yeah, Bob
Speaker 4: got writers, Okay for sure. But that's the game, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, That's is what it is, you know.
Speaker 4: So anyway, we brought we brought this hook to to
Speaker 4: to him and when I heard the recording, uh, Marshall
Speaker 4: insisted to record him.
Speaker 1: I want to record Bob engineer. Well, yeah, I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to vocalate. I want to vocally produced. I
Speaker 1: want to vocally produce Bob for this book and wants
Speaker 1: to h he wants to physically.
Speaker 2: I want to.
Speaker 4: Record Bob like they're in but they're both in Detroit. Hey,
Speaker 4: Bobby comes to the studio.
Speaker 1: Gill.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fucking epic. And then when I got the
Speaker 4: recording back, I was like, you're like, this, ain't it epic?
Speaker 1: Not epic?
Speaker 2: I was just like, this, ain't it man?
Speaker 4: Like it's it's this is not right, you know, and
Speaker 4: and like and and that became like a very hard discussion.
Speaker 4: It's very hard discussion between me and between me and Marshall.
Speaker 4: I had to call him personally, you know, and uh,
Speaker 4: but you know that's that's creativity. And I think, like,
Speaker 4: what was this conversation?
Speaker 1: Like what did you say? I said? This ain't it?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 1: You know, like it's like it's like pretty straightforward, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, man, but something is
Speaker 1: not right this this doesn't sound right, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. There's something about it that doesn't sit right
Speaker 1: with me. As my message. This is my breakout single,
Speaker 1: what's going on? You know?
Speaker 4: I mean, like, and I was in the Florida Keys
Speaker 4: at the time on break just you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: man pacing for like two hours, man having a conversation
Speaker 4: and one of the hardest conversations I've ever had with anyone,
Speaker 4: you know. And but I will say this, if you're
Speaker 4: an artist, you know you're coming up, don't be afraid
Speaker 4: to have.
Speaker 1: A disagreement, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like it's cool, you know what I mean, Like your
Speaker 4: your your elders will respect you for having an opinion
Speaker 4: now like they.
Speaker 1: Have the respectful opinion. Yeah, respectful opinion. Yeah. It's not
Speaker 1: like I wasn't dissing much, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I just was just like I don't like it, you.
Speaker 3: Know, so how does this happen? He has to go
Speaker 3: back to so we could rock. I don't want to go, Bob,
Speaker 3: I want to No, No, I just I just what
Speaker 3: what didn't you like about it?
Speaker 1: First of all, the mix, the mix that it was,
Speaker 1: the mix it was. It was the mix it was,
Speaker 1: it was the inflection of words, it was the way
Speaker 1: that it was. Everything about it was just so was
Speaker 1: it both vocals and the mix? Yeah, okay, so everything
Speaker 1: sucked everything.
Speaker 4: So I wouldn't say that it sucked. I would say
Speaker 4: that it didn't sit well with me and where I
Speaker 4: thought it should be.
Speaker 1: It sucked, Like, so what do you say? I was
Speaker 1: just like I thought it could be better. It didn't
Speaker 1: work for what you were doing. Yeah, so we set
Speaker 1: up this video to shoot, right, we get it off
Speaker 1: fixed sort of.
Speaker 4: The long is we came to terms. We made it
Speaker 4: what it was, you know what I mean. So we
Speaker 4: figured it out and that's what's up. That's what you
Speaker 4: do as a team, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 4: it's all good. Like we figured it out and.
Speaker 1: End up doing a video.
Speaker 4: So we're doing a video with Cool Herk and Cool
Speaker 4: Heirk and Bob Kid Rock so me, Cool Hook and
Speaker 4: Kid Rock riding around Harlem, you know, and that was
Speaker 4: the Let's Roll video. But like as they're shooting, Herk
Speaker 4: is in my ear telling me that he gave birth
Speaker 4: to hip hop.
Speaker 1: Of course as he should. Okay, yeah, so do you
Speaker 1: say yes?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, dude, that's my of course. You
Speaker 4: know his words the Bible to me, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean? Like, what am I going to say? I'm
Speaker 4: just soaking it in. But I have heard Africa about Botta.
Speaker 1: No no, yeah, yeah, you know you're not wrong for
Speaker 1: what you're about to say.
Speaker 4: And I'll say this two. This is a complete and
Speaker 4: this is a healthy conversation.
Speaker 1: This is not an argument. I don't like. This is
Speaker 1: not my theory at all.
Speaker 4: This is just what I've heard in between talking to
Speaker 4: Couhirk right and and he was like, right, I'm talking
Speaker 4: about right there. He's like, right there, them apartments that
Speaker 4: block right there, that's where it happened, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. And like we're filming, man, we're shooting a
Speaker 4: music video, but we're having a real conversation, and like
Speaker 4: it's like Bob and cool Herk and me and and
Speaker 4: and they're just giving me the whole fucking origins of
Speaker 4: everything as I'm cruising in a Cadillac like driving whose.
Speaker 1: Idea was to get to act like though you've got person.
Speaker 4: Well, I was trying to ask a little about while
Speaker 4: I'm like, you wanted to hear what he was saying, dude,
Speaker 4: Like this is such a moment, like what it's so
Speaker 4: much ship to soak up, right, So, I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't know if there's like a concrete answer to it all.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter because.
Speaker 4: It dives dives back deep, deep deep, And the more
Speaker 4: you the more you get into it, the further you
Speaker 4: know it all starts truth, right, It just it leaks leaks, leaks,
Speaker 4: leaks leaks down into this these things and ship. But
Speaker 4: I will say that was one of the most legendary
Speaker 4: moments I've ever had, Like riding around Cool Hirk and
Speaker 4: like him telling this story super legendar with Kid Rock
Speaker 4: with with kid Rock Bob, I can't call him Bob Okay,
Speaker 4: show what up Bob?
Speaker 1: How was Cool Hirk and kids Okay? I was just
Speaker 1: kid for us? I'm looking at Kid Rock their interaction.
Speaker 1: What was that interaction? Oh, dude, like Kid Rock and
Speaker 1: Cool Herk, we're like old friends. Really they were. They
Speaker 1: were really like tossing back and forth memories and like
Speaker 1: I was with each other. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, like kid Rock man, like that dude, he
Speaker 1: that dude, there's no joke man. He really really really
Speaker 1: immersed himself into the real ship, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean early on.
Speaker 2: So, so what's the discrepancy with with kid Rock now
Speaker 2: and hip hop where people think that he's gone off
Speaker 2: the rail because he doesn't make fucking.
Speaker 1: Hip hop because he's a Donald Trump supporter. That's the
Speaker 1: reason why I think that's.
Speaker 4: The only just don't make hip hop. It don't make
Speaker 4: hip hop music. Like what if you want to be
Speaker 4: relevant hip hop, make hip hop music, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like I mean he makes rock and roll,
Speaker 4: he makes country music, he makes singer songwriter songs, just
Speaker 4: like if he wants to do a rap record, and
Speaker 4: but he made his fine, he can do that, he absolutely.
Speaker 1: But he made his chops in hip hop? Should he
Speaker 1: not give back to hip hop? He made his chop
Speaker 1: to him?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I thought it was also like nah, bro, he came
Speaker 1: in through hip hop? Bro for real?
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, fucking opening up like he said, opening up
Speaker 4: for too short?
Speaker 1: What he came in through hip hop? Give what you're saying.
Speaker 2: So my thing is just this, if you if hip
Speaker 2: hop gave you the opening, no matter where you went,
Speaker 2: you should always be hip hop and give back to
Speaker 2: hip hop my opinion.
Speaker 1: And how do you give back to hip hop? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just saying I don't know.
Speaker 2: No, I can't. That's each individual to give back to. Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck you're gonna do. And
Speaker 2: you'll give fucking hip hop balloons. I don't know what
Speaker 2: the fuck you're gonna do.
Speaker 1: I just said I get music. I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: each person. But like it feels like kid Rock.
Speaker 2: Has gone further on where he's no longer even considered
Speaker 2: in the hip hop realm, right or wrong?
Speaker 4: Well, you're right, But I have a sentiment there as well.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, I have a certain like
Speaker 4: I can relate you know what I'm saying to being
Speaker 4: written off. You know what I'm saying and pushed to
Speaker 4: the side to this like area, You know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1: I don't know who writes you off.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know who writes me off. If I could
Speaker 1: point him out, I knock him out.
Speaker 2: But you will never write yourself off from hip hop.
Speaker 2: This is the thing you yourself, would never write yourself
Speaker 2: off from hip hop. This isn't give a fuck who
Speaker 2: writes you off from hip hop? You are hip hop?
Speaker 2: All right? Thank you, thank you. My sentiment is that
Speaker 2: we know where we come from. Give a fuck who
Speaker 2: says we don't come from it?
Speaker 8: Right right?
Speaker 1: But if you come from it, then always be a
Speaker 1: part of it and get back to it. Yeah, extent
Speaker 1: you know what you know? I think too, is like
Speaker 1: if it's in you, it's in you forever, right Like,
Speaker 1: so if it leaves you, was it ever in you
Speaker 1: to begin with? It's a good point. So like if
Speaker 1: like this like, look, I'm a skateboarder. Man, I grew
Speaker 1: up skateboarding and righte graffiti and skateboarding is really written
Speaker 1: very close to hip hop. I may, yes, absolutely very
Speaker 1: close to it. But I may never ride by a spot.
Speaker 1: I may not skate for fucking two three years when
Speaker 1: I see a spot, I know a spot.
Speaker 2: I was the worst skater in the world, and I'm
Speaker 2: a skater till I.
Speaker 1: Die, exactly my dig That's like K pop man was
Speaker 1: I was Vision Street where nobody animal. I'm a skater, bro,
Speaker 1: the world is like a shot. Shot that shot.
Speaker 2: I'm a skater.
Speaker 1: I die. I'm claiming shot. It's the same ship not
Speaker 1: for real, Like if it's in you, it's in you
Speaker 1: for like, don't leave ship. We're taking shouts now. Look
Speaker 1: I about to call my mother. Why why what you
Speaker 1: all got to do with this man? Because I was
Speaker 1: a skateboarder, Bro, No, no skateboard. Look look what skateboard
Speaker 1: you had? He's like, he's like Nash, I was a skateboard.
Speaker 1: Skateboarders out there listening, I was marking Zales. That was
Speaker 1: my board markus. I don't know if you know that's
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: Pre dates marks the guns. He's one of the first
Speaker 2: street skaters, like popular street skaters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't that type of street skateboarder. I was.
Speaker 2: Milita didn't know anything about He only knows public.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, wait, you were a skater, so let's go
Speaker 1: beyond that. You want you want? You want to my mom? Yes,
Speaker 1: let's call the first person that ever gave me a
Speaker 1: professional skateboard.
Speaker 4: His name is Mario Rubert copp and Franklin, Tennessee. My
Speaker 4: boy saw me pushing around on a Nash skateboard that
Speaker 4: my mom could barely afford from Walmart.
Speaker 1: And that was a little plastic joints, right, yeah.
Speaker 4: And Mario Rubacabo was ali and over bikes on pro boards.
Speaker 4: He had landed in Franklin somehow. And Mario took me
Speaker 4: into the crib of my boys, and he saw my potential,
Speaker 4: and he saw my he saw my fucking passion, and
Speaker 4: he hooked me up with a complete and my life
Speaker 4: changed after that. And then you know, and in my life,
Speaker 4: I thought I was going to become a professional skateboarder.
Speaker 4: Actually that's all I wanted to be. Like hip hop
Speaker 4: just took over my world, like music took over my world.
Speaker 4: But I took off on a skate dream, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. I skated Tampa am nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 4: So like, shout out to man, to my skateboard family
Speaker 4: and especially John Newport, Rampert Street street skateboarder, yeah and everybody,
Speaker 4: all the early Atlanta scene and Yanks the boot loads
Speaker 4: because the reason I talk about her in the skateboard
Speaker 4: culture is because we loved her so much and like
Speaker 4: she you know, we all know, man, the relationship that
Speaker 4: we made along the way. But anyway, John Newport, thank
Speaker 4: you for busting me with this rag.
Speaker 3: But is it true that at one point you stopped
Speaker 3: drinking gang and you started smoking and just skateboarding, Like
Speaker 3: so you would just skateboard and smoke and you would
Speaker 3: do dabs before your shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's all I was doing.
Speaker 1: That's all true. Yeah, yeah, I hate dads, that's all true.
Speaker 4: That for I tried to stop drinking and pick up smoking,
Speaker 4: and yeah, it's just a bad idea.
Speaker 1: Mean, mom, Jamie brings drinks. Just keep some drinks, man, Look, man,
Speaker 1: only over you holy just for the love we're this
Speaker 1: is it for me?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: Cool to take these five more shots?
Speaker 1: More shots that you've done.
Speaker 3: I'll do all five for you if you want another
Speaker 3: way it worked, but I think we should see you
Speaker 3: see him on that.
Speaker 1: That's not the way I'm gonna hold myself down. But
Speaker 1: is that true? Is that true? Like like like you
Speaker 1: skate before your shows?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, for a while. I mean that's yeah, that's all
Speaker 4: I was doing. As matter of fact, when when the
Speaker 4: ship hit the fan, I fucking jumped off tour and
Speaker 4: uh I was going through tour Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Jelly Row actually was on this tour. Jelly was opening
Speaker 1: up on this tour and struggle, and when I got
Speaker 1: to l A, I was like, man, I fucking done,
Speaker 1: torm Man, I'm over. I quit tour halfway and all
Speaker 1: I wanted to do was just skateboard. And I was
Speaker 1: just psyched out, man, Like you're still skate right now,
Speaker 1: Like just you know, the c.
Speaker 4: Always always, there's always I always got to complete somewhere around,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm pushing around around.
Speaker 1: I trade flipped the forest there the other day, which
Speaker 1: is pretty good.
Speaker 2: Out of that nowhere.
Speaker 1: Out of nowhere, I don't even know what language that was.
Speaker 1: He's doing some tricks that he should be done. I
Speaker 1: was dead for two days took me like seven tries,
Speaker 1: but I did it, and you fell on those tries.
Speaker 4: Oh that hate shit? Well anyway, it was, it's anyway,
Speaker 4: Where was I going with this?
Speaker 1: I don't know. We want to go well, I was
Speaker 1: going to drink all five of your shots. I mean,
Speaker 1: skater or die go ahead. But yeah, like that's been
Speaker 1: a common threat in my life. And I think you're
Speaker 1: so right to mention the intertwining of skateboarding and hip hops.
Speaker 4: It's very important, very important my life. It's very important
Speaker 4: to mention how like, okay, okay, how am I from Nashville, but.
Speaker 1: I'm hip on hieroglyphics in nineteen ninety three, Yah, did
Speaker 1: that happen? It was skateboarding. It was through skateboard videos
Speaker 1: and through skate culture and and all, let me tell
Speaker 1: you mixed taste.
Speaker 2: They were coming through hip hop and skateboarding has been
Speaker 2: synonymous forever. But who made it mainstream and acceptable? Was
Speaker 2: odd future? Our future?
Speaker 1: No Tyler, I gotta say, Loupe Plaskow. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no, he didn't he didn't know that. We
Speaker 1: didn't skaters. We didn't respect that you was a skater.
Speaker 2: Remember the skate bro I just told you that. No,
Speaker 2: you're you're you're you're keeping it.
Speaker 1: G you're keeping it.
Speaker 2: Really, I mean, look the clown like I told you
Speaker 2: I was, but I was a skater but still nonetheless becau.
Speaker 1: It's just church bro, I have my markets.
Speaker 2: I got my markets on this board in my room
Speaker 2: right now, in my office, right up, one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I was Vision Street wearing all watching skate videos all
Speaker 2: day long.
Speaker 1: Terrible skater, though, terrible skater. I think that they I
Speaker 1: think that they did an excellent job, yes, but that
Speaker 1: didn't do it just being themselves. Man, Push Push was
Speaker 1: not respected in the skating.
Speaker 5: Come.
Speaker 1: Look, man, when you skate, you just skate. You don't
Speaker 1: talk about it, right, that's it.
Speaker 2: And our future was just our future, and it had
Speaker 2: to be they had.
Speaker 1: I've been, man, I was around way way early, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like when I was. Wasn't he
Speaker 1: a skater? Yeah, but still that's still was. He wasn't respecting, no, no.
Speaker 5: He no.
Speaker 2: What he did is he sponsored skate teams. He had
Speaker 2: real teams, but he was not respecting necessarily, huh.
Speaker 3: The way he was already platinum and the way he
Speaker 3: had to learn to skates later on he taught himself
Speaker 3: to skate, but I give little way is real.
Speaker 1: He really was in his heart a skater, but he
Speaker 1: had to go through the motions. Listen, if you love skateboarding,
Speaker 1: then skate It's not it's not as you're good or
Speaker 1: bad exactly. Yeah, that is just a personal expression and
Speaker 1: like it's all good. If you love skateboarding, I don't
Speaker 1: give a fuck if you discover it when you're five.
Speaker 4: Old or thirty years old. If you trun love it
Speaker 4: and you're into it, be about it. Just don't fake
Speaker 4: the funk, that's all.
Speaker 1: Don't be a poser, bro. Yeah, I mean, dude, address
Speaker 1: me ass. But skateboarding and through John Newport, who I
Speaker 1: grew up skateboarding with, is in a long stream of connections.
Speaker 1: The reason why I ended up with this Drenk Champs.
Speaker 1: So it all connects, and something it does it does connect.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Trump music one, two, and three. Do
Speaker 1: Trump fuck with you?
Speaker 5: Do? What?
Speaker 20: Do Trump fuck with you? But it's trunk do Trump?
Speaker 20: It's not Trump Trump Trump? D you know no, no
Speaker 20: I know this Trump, But I'm saying Trump with you.
Speaker 1: I with it, No, I fuck with this question because
Speaker 1: you know what you know, it's very close with this question.
Speaker 1: I with this.
Speaker 2: Because you know, you know, with everybody.
Speaker 3: Trump fucking with everybody right now?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm a little scared to check my phone.
Speaker 3: I've got some un known callers, and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: not sure because I don't know.
Speaker 1: I say, no, I'm being honest. Good, I went too far? Man,
Speaker 1: Does Trump fuck with me?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: The Trump with the trunk? Okay, listen, there's Trump. That's
Speaker 1: an interesting question being that I'm literally one degree away
Speaker 1: from Donald Trump, which is Bob.
Speaker 21: What Bob is out there? He's their homies? Is their homies?
Speaker 21: I mean they're homies, Like, what's up the show me? Listen, listen,
Speaker 21: absolutely like they're friends.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So being that I'm like literally one degree away away
Speaker 1: and I and I recently also like for the past
Speaker 1: three years, I've been golfing. It's my new obsession.
Speaker 2: I golf.
Speaker 1: I golf everywhere the motherfuckers. I love it. You can't
Speaker 1: peel me off the course. I'd be golfing if I
Speaker 1: wasn't here for you golfing golf? What's up calling the
Speaker 1: way I'm trying to go golfing? DJ, You're just out
Speaker 1: there neidnam Man. Okay, ready, I just go let's go.
Speaker 4: What do you I don't go golfing, So you're not
Speaker 4: You're not chasing because you don't golf.
Speaker 22: Here's here's the skateboarding you mother, you can't get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're good, you're good talking about golfing. You and
Speaker 3: Donald Trump went golfing.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's not.
Speaker 4: What I said was I'm one degree away because golfing
Speaker 4: has afforded me into these man, golfing is like, first
Speaker 4: of all, it's incredible, but you just end up in
Speaker 4: situations where people, you know, you and Bob wouldn't wouldn't
Speaker 4: wouldn't imagine that you would.
Speaker 2: You know, let's just be real, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Look, Creek Water is in Walmart right now. Get back second, motherfucker. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: sea like a motherfucker right now. I'm telling you. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to put I'm trying to put it together. Okay,
Speaker 1: So golf and Moster energy drink is really good for golf. No,
Speaker 1: there's a connection.
Speaker 4: Not bullshitters in Walmart right now because my boy Stuart Walton,
Speaker 4: the uh the Walton family.
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know at the time. Te teed off
Speaker 1: to Daddy's lambeau, and his next question, his younger sister
Speaker 1: was like, look, look just so you know what does
Speaker 1: that say right there? Daddy's lamb off to Daddy's lambeau
Speaker 1: right and his sister was like, oh, I know I'm
Speaker 1: bringing to your private party.
Speaker 4: So the whole connection, with that whole connection all sparn
Speaker 4: from golf. Like it was like golf that that brought
Speaker 4: that that to make happen, man, Like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 2: Make this happen.
Speaker 1: It was part of the story, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like Stuart Walton, Walton family, Walmart okay teed off to
Speaker 4: Daddy's lambeau my song.
Speaker 1: Wow, So he was playing golf, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So like a lot of magic happens on the golf course,
Speaker 1: like when people like people say, like people play music
Speaker 1: on the golf course like that. Yeah, I didn't know
Speaker 1: that there fucking hell, yeah, this ship, I don't know that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that, y'all so crazy shit, Yo,
Speaker 2: I don't know who speakers in the fucking grass.
Speaker 1: Nay, No, it's a lot like yo, you know what
Speaker 1: it is? Mine is skateboarding like all over again.
Speaker 4: So it's me and my boys out there talking ship,
Speaker 4: playing music, smoking, drinking, hitting good shots, hitting bad shots. Dude,
Speaker 4: it's fucking the best. It's the best. But so I
Speaker 4: played on this, okay, So back to the Trump thing, Yes,
Speaker 4: I would like to hear it.
Speaker 1: So I played on.
Speaker 4: I played on this course called Troubadour, right, And it's
Speaker 4: a beautiful course in Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Beautiful course.
Speaker 4: And uh there's a lot of like powerful people with
Speaker 4: pieces of real estate on this golf course. And you know,
Speaker 4: I thought, you know, at some point when when you
Speaker 4: like analyze like how close am I?
Speaker 1: And how how scary could that be?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like what does this mean for me? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like does it? I'm I've never voted, but
Speaker 1: I've never voted.
Speaker 2: In my life.
Speaker 1: Man, come on, bro, well the funk off. I have
Speaker 1: a right not to vote. This is American, right, America.
Speaker 1: I've never voted, you know what I mean? It's all good? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, what what you study the I don't study.
Speaker 1: I studied hip. I study music. That's what I do.
Speaker 1: I like that vote on me? All right, take a vote.
Speaker 1: Here's a vote the vote.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like, there's there's plenty of
Speaker 4: people that are more educated than me that deserve the
Speaker 4: right to vote than I do. If I go into
Speaker 4: a situation uneducated and vote, it's it's worthless.
Speaker 1: What am I? I'm not educated on these people. I
Speaker 1: don't know the candidates.
Speaker 3: I don't study it.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I get it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This is all year, this is happening, and take a vote.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't they also either way, but right,
Speaker 1: it's true.
Speaker 2: Where am I going with this?
Speaker 1: I just we never know, but we end wherever you're going.
Speaker 1: So you don't vote, go yeah, No, it's not that
Speaker 1: I don't vote. I said, I have never voted. That's
Speaker 1: that's but this is the year. I might vote one day.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Motherfuckers Like, I'm like, yeah with him, that's just tight,
Speaker 4: and like yeah, I like that guy being knowng you know,
Speaker 4: like whatever, but this year?
Speaker 1: Are you going to vote? This year? No, we're talking
Speaker 1: about Bob. I guess this is what we're going maga.
Speaker 3: You know Bob likes you know what, Let's just throw
Speaker 3: it out whether I don't know, man, what the hell
Speaker 3: is that well my wife ship.
Speaker 4: Now, whether this is to be bullshit or not, like
Speaker 4: you know, take what you want whatever, we're being real,
Speaker 4: you know, let's be real.
Speaker 1: Let's just be well, I'm always fucking real. But I'm
Speaker 1: saying like we're just like growing ups. Like I believe,
Speaker 1: like if if you and I are having a conversation
Speaker 1: and like at dinner, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: I have a certain like idea about how I like
Speaker 1: to live and stuff, and you're you're you're the party
Speaker 1: and in the group that is a political that is
Speaker 1: politically educated, right, and that influence of what.
Speaker 4: I'm going to talk about is going to influence your vote,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's that's that's cool,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like it's hard for me
Speaker 4: to fucking pick somebody that if I'm not educated in it,
Speaker 4: I feel stupid having a conversation about it.
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck I don't know? I want to
Speaker 1: talk about that ship? You just don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about politics. You want me to put the whole country
Speaker 1: in jobty for some ship that I don't even know about.
Speaker 2: I don't know, not get you can be like I
Speaker 2: don't want to talk about this. I don't really understand
Speaker 2: the bullshit. Fuck the bullshit. All right, this is an
Speaker 2: edits what we're gonna take Jeneral Trump out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give a fuck about that.
Speaker 3: It's just like.
Speaker 2: Politics.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go. We got no shoe politics,
Speaker 1: we got no good choice. We're all somebody goddamn politics either.
Speaker 1: We went off the rails with the ship. Fine, let's
Speaker 1: let's speak that. Let's be.
Speaker 9: Let's let's be do you you don't call me somebody, listen,
Speaker 9: my wife just came here. I just want you to know.
Speaker 3: I'm officially inducted into the White Rock and Roll Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame.
Speaker 1: As nor read the dude, I am now the dude.
Speaker 1: You don't give your sensory of white rock clean for you,
Speaker 1: clean for you, and do not give it to And
Speaker 1: he's like he's he's going to Tim. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I've never seen your dude pass, just like we've never
Speaker 3: seen just skating back.
Speaker 1: You see, Kapore.
Speaker 2: Look, can't even make you know.
Speaker 1: I have story about yeah, no, I have a really
Speaker 1: funny story about power. This is like about how close
Speaker 1: you could be to power?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Okay, and oh man, oh god. A couple of Christmases ago,
Speaker 1: like Bob and I have had d please okay, kid, rock,
Speaker 1: Bob and I have.
Speaker 4: He's he big brothers me a lot, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So there's like always heated moments, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, like gets hot sometimes mother, you know,
Speaker 4: like we have these moments. We got heated one night
Speaker 4: and I was like, it's like Christmas, right what.
Speaker 1: You would Rock had an argument on? Yeah, yeah, because well.
Speaker 4: I found out my my wife at the time, who
Speaker 4: I was separated with, was kicking it over there. Okay,
Speaker 4: like it was warn us your ex wife again, but
Speaker 4: like they're family. It's don't I'm saying, we don't accept
Speaker 4: it now, He's not. You cannot accept this, No, no,
Speaker 4: I do all right. But it was Christmas and I
Speaker 4: was fucking hammered and it was snowing outside and it
Speaker 4: was pissed and fucking you know all this ship and
Speaker 4: I called him.
Speaker 1: You know, I was like, yo, motherfucking motherfucking you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I started going going off and dude, that night, I'm
Speaker 4: not shipping you. A bomb went off on Second Avenue
Speaker 4: in Nashville, Tennessee. And at this time I'm living in Tennessee. Nashville, Tennessee.
Speaker 4: No like downtown the key.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the news about the bomb that went
Speaker 1: off on Second Avenue?
Speaker 4: Do you remember hearing about that somebody parked a winter
Speaker 4: bagel outside of Yes, the Yeah, I was downtown when
Speaker 4: that happened, like like wake like I was there, you know,
Speaker 4: And but the night before I had you know, dude,
Speaker 4: the next day at f came to my door a
Speaker 4: deep blue jackets.
Speaker 1: Yellow at my door, blue jackets, yellow yellers, yellow letters.
Speaker 1: Yeah at l okay, okay, you're fucking me up something
Speaker 1: so late bugs. They pulled up and are you mister eight? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Can we come in?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, boy, my heart was in my shoes.
Speaker 2: Bro. I was like what the fuck?
Speaker 1: They said, Uh, have you had any confrontations lately? And
Speaker 1: I was like.
Speaker 4: No, I mean nah, not that I can remember. And
Speaker 4: they were like, uh, what about a Bobby? And I
Speaker 4: was like I was like, what's what do you mean?
Speaker 4: And he said, uh Bobby. I was like, you can
Speaker 4: rock Bob. That that bob you're talking about, like yeah him?
Speaker 4: And I was like, I mean, yeah, I got no.
Speaker 1: Argument with him last night, but what's the connection here?
Speaker 4: And I was like, did you have anything to do
Speaker 4: with the bombing one second Avenue? And I was like,
Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, first of all, Bob's
Speaker 4: place is on Broadway. That's way away for second Avenue
Speaker 4: was second of all, I ain't no fucking terrorist motherfucker,
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, but that but that
Speaker 4: was so shocking to me, like that that fucking like
Speaker 4: how like careful with this ship, y'all. Careful what you say,
Speaker 4: care for what you do, because there's some you know,
Speaker 4: you could have a simple argument with someone and like
Speaker 4: over the phone and some other ship happened around the corner.
Speaker 4: They got you you know what I'm saying, and then
Speaker 4: and they and they'll come tap in that. So that
Speaker 4: was like like you know, like so so kid rock
Speaker 4: phone is tapped. For sure, My ships tapped for sure.
Speaker 1: For sure. Let's take a picture show. But but I
Speaker 1: just I just know that, like you know, like you
Speaker 1: get like close to like like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: people who move and shake, man, and then they'll they'll
Speaker 1: definitely wake you up if you're sleeping on them, they'll
Speaker 1: wake you up real quick. We're taking the shop for
Speaker 1: us being wake up. Oh fuck. Just woke? Is just
Speaker 1: that what we're saying. Yeah, let's be woke. No, no,
Speaker 1: just drink. I gotta drink here, I'm taking a drink.
Speaker 1: All right, bad You're gonna leave me out there. H yeah,
Speaker 1: we were together, the whole just left me.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take a shot, you know, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, man, Thank you came here, you
Speaker 3: played the game, you lived it the same way.
Speaker 1: You want to fig you up. We want to continue
Speaker 1: to have your success.
Speaker 3: And you know what was one of the best things
Speaker 3: that I was researching and googling and doing all this,
Speaker 3: and one of the best things that said about you
Speaker 3: is your fans went with you. That's why my first
Speaker 3: question to you was independent of major.
Speaker 1: And I went. You know, he watched so many interviews
Speaker 1: of you. I watched so many interviews.
Speaker 3: Of you, and one of the things that was repetitive
Speaker 3: was that your fans went with you ever you went.
Speaker 1: And I want to tell you how rare that is.
Speaker 3: If you play for the Yankees and then you play
Speaker 3: for Minnesota the next day, they hate you.
Speaker 1: If you play for LA and then you go to
Speaker 1: New York the next day, they hate you.
Speaker 3: The fact that you had this big, luxurious career with
Speaker 3: shady records, Geffen in the scope and then you went
Speaker 3: independent because I was so shocked that you said independent
Speaker 3: when I when I asked you that. But that goes
Speaker 3: to your audience. It goes to your audience. What I
Speaker 3: mean by that is they went with you. Most don't
Speaker 3: when you take off that Yankee jersey, they say fuck you,
Speaker 3: They don't support you again. But the fact that you
Speaker 3: did that, you accomplished that. I want to salute you
Speaker 3: for that. Man, I want to let you know that.
Speaker 3: But because I can you living there, you living in
Speaker 3: this time, so you probably don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: But I, as an outsider, that's the insider. That's the
Speaker 1: outsider looking in. I killed that. I killed that.
Speaker 3: I heard y'all, I heard that. I felt y'all feel me.
Speaker 3: But that's what I am.
Speaker 1: And I got to tell you.
Speaker 3: Continue to do your job, continue to be great, continue
Speaker 3: to live hip hop, continue to bring hip hop, rap
Speaker 3: country together. You making something, and in the end they're
Speaker 3: gonna salute you, and they're gonna say, that's what the
Speaker 3: fuck you did?
Speaker 1: And me and E F F my brother is glad
Speaker 1: to salute you and tell you continue to do that,
Speaker 1: You're gonna a picture of a couple of drops, and
Speaker 1: that's God damn.
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