1 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Official Yellowstone Podcast. I'm Jefferson. Why, 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: I am joined as always by Jen Landon, and we 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: have a fun show on tap for you today with 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: a guest that we've been talking about for the past 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: couple of episodes. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeff, I don't know if I could be more 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: excited than I am about today's episode. And I feel 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: like we all have crushes on our guest that we're 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: going to be speaking too soon, which is the amazing 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: Brandon Splenard, who plays Spencer Dutton. 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it took him six months, he had to cross 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: several oceans, and now we've got him in the studio today. 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: I am so excited to talk with Brandon. He's one 14 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: of my favorite actors in nineteen twenty three. It's one 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: of my favorite characters in nineteen twenty three. And like 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: we've been watching this show. We've seen seven episodes of 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: this now. I'm a huge, huge fan of the show 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: and I can't wait to hear about his experience. It's 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: working on it right after this quick break. 20 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm really excited to talk to Brandon in 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: a little bit. But the last time you and I spoke, Jeff, 22 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: we were on episode four, and a lot has happened 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: since then. So home, the home that the Spencer characters 24 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: returning to, looks very different than it did. Well, let's 25 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: say at the beginning of episode four, certainly. 26 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been it's been a transformative season for the 27 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: Dutton ranch itself. You know, Spencer's been on this epic 28 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: journey all around the world trying to reach home, and 29 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: the real question is is there going to be anything 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: left by the time he gets there. So when we 31 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: last spoke about nineteen twenty three, Jacob had been shot. 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: John Dutton had been killed. It was a really like 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: low moment for the ranch. 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: Does is Spencer aware that his brother has been shot 35 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: and killed in that letter? I can't remember. 36 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think, oh, yes, yes, Alex 37 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: reads him that letter. Yeah, and that's it feels like, 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: what is the final straw that summons him home. It 39 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: feels like he's been resisting coming home. Kara has been 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: sort of trying to get in touch with him, and 41 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: then it feels like this attack, this sort of savage 42 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: attack on the Duttons and his family is what finally 43 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: spurs him into motion to head home. Jacob is wounded. 44 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: Jack is like bloodthirsty that the journey that Jack has 45 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: been on is fascinating and I get it right. His 46 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: father was killed, his mother dies. He is on this 47 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: kind of this personal he seems, and Kara says this 48 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: to him over and over again, like, you know your vision, 49 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: You've gotta come back to reality. This sort of revenge fantasy, 50 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: this like bloodthirst that you're feeling is not what we need. 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: This is not constructive. It's a kind of maze that 52 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: he's lost in. And then there's this beautiful moment when 53 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: he finally sort of the haze clears because Elizabeth, his fiance, 54 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: is going to leave him. She says, all right, get 55 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: me out of here. If all you are is a killer, 56 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: if all you can think about is revenge, then we're done. 57 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: And that's the sort of final straw that thankfully pierces 58 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: through that fugue state he's in, so he comes back 59 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: to reality and accepts his responsibility. You know it. Really 60 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: he has his own version. We've seen Spencer's struggle with 61 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: this death drive, this kind of in the wake of 62 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: the tragedy that Spencer has witnessed and faced, he's been 63 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: almost trying to get himself killed big game hunting. We've 64 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: seen Jack experience his own version of the same thing 65 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: in the wake of the death of his father. You know, 66 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: Jacob being shot, feeling so helpless an impotent. We almost 67 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: see him driving towards his own death senselessly. And it 68 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: makes me think of a moment where that a thing 69 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: that Rip says to Jimmy, and like season two of Yellowstone, 70 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: Jimmy wants to just get up and go and attack 71 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: the men that killed his grandfather, and Rips like, no, no, no, 72 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you how to get rid of problems 73 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: so they don't become bigger problems. And it feels this 74 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: whole time like Kara is saying Jack, calm down. We've 75 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: got to be logical. We have to take care of 76 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: this in a way that isn't going to create a 77 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: bigger issue for us or kick the hornet's nest. We 78 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: have to do this the right way, or they are 79 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: going to win. If we rise to this drive for revenge, 80 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna be overpowered and killed. That's not gonna work. 81 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: That tactic isn't valid. 82 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: On that front. And again we can ask Brandon this, 83 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: but do we think that Spencer's motivation for coming home 84 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: is to take care of his family, protect his family, 85 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: or this vengeance that seems to kind of permeate through 86 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: the Dutton line. 87 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: That's a great question, and I bet it's that motive 88 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: is changing over time as he himself kind of comes 89 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: back to life in his love for Alex. You know, 90 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: like we've seen his death drive evolve. We've seen him 91 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: sort of wake up in some ways to the possibilities 92 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: of life, the sort of beauty of life through this 93 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: epic journey he's having alongside Alex, which is another to me, 94 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: I got to say, another sort of Rip and Casey parallel. 95 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: These characters who have been sort of taken all the 96 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: way up to the edge of despair, been taken all 97 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: the way up to the edge of the sort of 98 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: cliff of misery, and are brought back to life by 99 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: the women they love, by their families, by a sort 100 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: of sense of responsibility to the people they love. I 101 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: feel like we've watched Spencer go through that journey, and 102 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: we've watched Jack go through that journey, and even Jacob. 103 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: Even Jacob is listening to Kara and sort of tempering 104 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: his own desire for revenge his own desire to sort 105 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: of kick back at the men that wronged him. Kara 106 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: really feels like the mediating impulse in all of it. 107 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, what Taylor's writing over and over again is 108 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 2: that all men would just be dead essentially if there 109 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: weren't women around to say, honey, chill out, have a drink, 110 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: whatever you need, soften the heart, you know, don't kill yourself. 111 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: I think that's right, And Kara says, I think, Kara 112 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: says to Banner himself. She says, men kill quickly, You're 113 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: gonna wish that it was that easy. Women kill slowly. 114 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: And it seems really clear to me that Kara's not 115 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: It's not that she doesn't want vengeance. She wants vengeance 116 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: as much as anybody else. Right, She her husband was 117 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: shot right in front of her, her her nephew was killed. 118 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: Like there's She's suffered as much as anybody else as 119 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: a result of this attack. So she wants vengeance. She 120 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: just wants it in a sort of methodical, calculated way 121 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: that's going to last. 122 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: Right, so that protection is still like maybe her bigger 123 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: motivation in the long run that it might be deadlier 124 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: to everybody else who is her enemy, but that it's 125 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: primary motivators and vengeance. 126 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, we've seen this across all of these shows. 127 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: You know, if you take justice into your own hands, 128 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: you're cutting off hydra heads, but two more grow back. 129 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: You know, every sort of enemy that John Dutton has 130 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 1: struck down in Yellowstone, they tend to come back more 131 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: with new weapons, with new sort of forms. You know, 132 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: rip kills what's his name, Oh, this is the ultimate 133 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: the ultimate humiliation is I've forgotten his name, Rorke. He 134 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: kills Roork in the river with the snake happens a 135 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: bigger batter snake shows up on a plane from New 136 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: York City. Right, you take justice into your own hands, 137 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: you don't build sustainable, lasting solutions. So part of what 138 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: Kara's doing here is saying, no, no, no, don't just 139 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: get on a horse and go shoot some more. Then 140 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna hire more guys. They're gonna come back over here, 141 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: and they're gonna kill more of us. She's saying, let's 142 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: do this, right, let's do this, you know, legally, let's 143 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: bring these institutions in to this justice such that it 144 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: lasts and perseveres, so that you know, the next time 145 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: she turns her head. She's not losing another precious member 146 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: of her family. And you know who better to help 147 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 1: than Spencer. Nothing right Spencer has You know what, I'm 148 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: amazed by Spencer because he's got this kind of cool 149 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: logic to him, even while he is an incredible and listen, 150 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: my man can kill. He's got that dog in him. 151 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: He has killed pretty much every zoo animal. He's killed 152 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: all my favorite zoo animals so far out of necessity, 153 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: with respect, out of necessity. But he also has this 154 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: kind of cool, methodical head in these moments, you know, 155 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: when they're stuck on the capsized tugboat and you know, Alix, 156 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: you know that like exposure kills you in the middle 157 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: of the ocean real quick, you got the sun beating 158 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: down on your dehydrated. He stays cool, he stays methodical. 159 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: He's a survivor. He's exactly the soldier that Karen needs. 160 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: So obviously, Spencer, you know this, this vital soldier in 161 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: the Dutton's effort to keep their ranches headed home, and 162 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: he's heading home to face a multitude of threats. One 163 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: of my favorite parts of nineteen twenty three has been 164 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: this really interesting cool villains. You know, we've seen Donald 165 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: Whitfield right, this kind of big business robber Baron almost 166 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: sort of circling representing one side of this equation that 167 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: will of course play out again in Yellowstone, presenting big 168 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:06,359 Speaker 1: money representing industry, representing the desire to sort of pillage 169 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: this land to pull resources out of it. But then 170 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: we also one of my favorite characters on the show 171 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: who I'm just absolutely obsessed with because I love this 172 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: actor too, is Banner, right, Jerome Flynn's character Banner Creighton, 173 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: because I love seeing him sort of go through this journey, 174 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: starting out as basically a sheepherder who is in a 175 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: desperate position, somebody with very little one of many sheep 176 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: herders sort of having to make this desperate play, banding 177 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: together his sort of compatriots and attacking the Duttons, the 178 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: most powerful, richest institution in the valley, attacking them and 179 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: in doing so also enriching himself immensely. I love the 180 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: team up. I really do love the team up of 181 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: Donald and Banner because they represent these two complete, deletely 182 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: different sides of the coin. It's such a funny, odd couple, 183 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: and I could endlessly watch Banners sort of walk through 184 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: his brand new house, turning on the faucets, drinking champagne, 185 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: experiencing the other side of his life. You know, we're 186 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: watching all these characters part of this. You know, one 187 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: of the big kind of themes of the show is modernity, 188 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: the steady march of modernity. There's all these questions about wait, 189 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: is the railroad coming, is electricity coming? Is plumbing coming? 190 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: Washing machines? Obviously, I get so excited about this stuff. 191 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: I could talk about it all day. I'm gonna spare 192 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: you all that We're gonna take a quick break, and 193 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: when we come back, we've got with us the incredible 194 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: Brandon Spleinar. So stay right there. You know, we get 195 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: the gift of talking to a lot of our friends 196 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: on this show. We get the gift of talking to 197 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: a lot of our workers. In this case, Jen and 198 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: I feel incredibly lucky to talk to an actor that 199 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: we're just fans of. We've both been watching nineteen twenty three, 200 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: We've been gushing to you this audience about it for weeks, 201 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: and perhaps no character more than Spencer Dutton. So we 202 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: feel incredibly lucky to have with us today an actor 203 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: whom we admire very much. Brandon's Glennard, thank you so 204 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: much for being here. 205 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, of course, Man, happy to be here, Brandon. 206 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: I'm just going to start at the very beginning, like 207 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 2: what can you just tell us a little bit about 208 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: how this role came to you, what that audition process 209 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: was like, had you seen Yellowstone before, etc. 210 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, I I've been wanting to work with Taylor 211 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 4: for a long time, a really long time since I 212 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 4: saw Heller h Water years ago, and he was kind 213 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 4: of at the top of my top of my list 214 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 4: in terms of filmmakers and creators. And my manager called 215 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 4: me and he was like, Hey, that nineteen twenty three 216 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 4: project you've been tracking for a while, they want to 217 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 4: read you. Perhapsideria. John Popsidi is a casting director on there. 218 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 4: He's a good friend and he's he's cast me in 219 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 4: I think four or five projects and he's like pastes 220 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 4: casting it, and uh you got a roll for you 221 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 4: And I was like, oh shit, okay. Uh so he 222 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 4: send it over and yeah, and I just immediately resonated 223 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 4: with it just in the breakdown and on the page 224 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 4: and felt I felt good about it, you know, I 225 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: felt confident about it from the jumping Like I said, 226 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 4: It just resonated with me in a way that I 227 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 4: hadn't really felt before with anything I'd come across or 228 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 4: an auditioned for. 229 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: And it was it was honestly out of anything I've 230 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: ever done. 231 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 4: It was the quickest and most painless casting process. 232 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: It was so fast. 233 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 4: I mean sometimes these things drag out for three or 234 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 4: four months and you're just losing your mind, you know. 235 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: So it was great. 236 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes it's just right. 237 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 2: Man. 238 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: Jen and I were marveling before you got on at 239 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: what exquisite casting this is. It really is an incredible 240 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: energetic match. Will you talk a little bit about the 241 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: experience of functionally sort of going on this personal journey, 242 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: this kind of adventure. 243 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 4: Just there their creative process, Taylor's creative process, and just 244 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 4: this whole sort of Yellowstone universe that he's created. And 245 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 4: I can't speak to any of his other projects, but 246 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 4: I imagine they're pretty similar. I mean they are so immersive, 247 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 4: and you know, in terms of acting and having to 248 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 4: create things for yourself for them to be real. I mean, 249 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 4: they take care of so much, so many things for you. 250 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: It just just really thrown you on that and my my, 251 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: my personal journey as an actor and as a person 252 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: mirrored Spencer's in so many ways. Just it's kind of eerie, 253 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 4: you know, and just just being out there in Africa 254 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: and trying to make sense everything, and you know, being 255 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 4: thrust into this role with all this responsibility to carry 256 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: this thing, and that also mirroring his responsibility to to 257 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 4: you know, take care Alex and to get home to 258 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: his family, and and you know, always being out of 259 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 4: his element, but also at the same time always being 260 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 4: in his element, you know, so in his element being 261 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 4: out of his element, you know, he finds comfort in 262 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: the uncomfortable. So it's this weird paradox that I definitely 263 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 4: tapped into and just you know, live the entire time myself. 264 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: Do you think like, should this role have come into 265 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: your life five years ago, that you would have been 266 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: at a place too, like it would have been a 267 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: match then, or do you think do you know what 268 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: I mean? 269 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 4: I'm a I'm a firm believer in just a divine 270 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 4: timing of life and things in general. And you know, 271 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: I can pretty clearly track the trajectory of how things 272 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 4: have evolved based on where I was at personally and 273 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 4: what I was trying to do in my personal life. 274 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 4: And I mean, I don't think that it could have 275 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 4: happened at any other time because I wouldn't have been 276 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 4: in a position to handle it the way that I 277 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 4: was able to and bring that vibe to Spencer. 278 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: That he needed. 279 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 4: At any other point in my life if I was 280 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 4: in my mid twenties versus my early thirties and having 281 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 4: gone through what I've gone through personally in the last 282 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 4: five years, and that shift, and yeah, there's no way. 283 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 3: There's just no way, And I wouldn't have wanted it. 284 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: It's a fascinating Yeah, you mentioned yourself. You feel as 285 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: though working on the show has has changed you, You've 286 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: grown from working on the show. By the time we 287 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: find Spencer. When we first find Spencer, he has lived 288 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: a long, difficult life. You know, he is a part 289 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: of this generation of young men who were forced to 290 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: age prematurely by participating in the horror that was World 291 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: War One, Right, so he has seen some shit at 292 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: a young age by the time we first find him, 293 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: and he is so clearly haunted by it. It's almost 294 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: like he's after his life. It's like his life is 295 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: over in some sense and he's almost hunting his own death. 296 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: It feels to me, like doing what he's doing. He's 297 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: going out there until one of these fucking lions brings 298 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: him down. The only you know, he's almost looking for 299 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: the animal that's big enough to kill him back. And 300 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: then over the course of these seven episodes, it's an 301 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: amazing gift just watching this sort of life come back 302 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: into him in part because of this relationship with Alex. 303 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: So will you just talk a little about working with Julia, 304 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: you know her, she also is coming into this with 305 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of responsibility, and I know from being 306 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: on set, your greatest gift is each other, your greatest 307 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: talk about immersive. Having a performance like that right across 308 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: from you is the greatest gift in the world. Will 309 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: you talk about your sort of shared process and how 310 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: you found these characters together. 311 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, that's great that you're perceiving all that 312 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 4: from that from the show, because that was all the intentions. 313 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 3: I'm happy about that. That's great. 314 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we we got really lucky. You know, 315 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 4: Taylor didn't do a chemistry read for the role of 316 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: Alex at all, and neither of us have really been 317 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 4: in this position before in terms of a role that 318 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 4: significant in a show. 319 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 3: That is such a following and sort of this built 320 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: in viewership. 321 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 4: Even though it's the first season of you know, the 322 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 4: show itself, there's so much going into it that you 323 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 4: know you're going to have those eyes. 324 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 3: And I think we bonded in a. 325 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 4: Lot of ways, and especially in that way, you know, 326 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 4: just sort of entering this new arena in our careers 327 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 4: and his actors together, and we were fortunate enough to 328 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 4: get along really well and just kind of have an 329 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 4: instant rapport. 330 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: Just the echoes are so apparent, right you're talking about 331 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: your experience of working on the show. Okay, I'm going 332 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: to leave my family behind. I'm going to leave my 333 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: friends behind. I'm going to go into the middle of 334 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: nowhere and put my trust in these other actors, put 335 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: my trust in this crew. And that's very much what 336 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: the character's doing too, Right, He's in the middle of 337 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: fucking nowhere, far from everything he's ever known or loved, 338 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: and he finds this person to trust, which is such 339 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: a fascinating journey to watch. So you get cast on 340 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: a show starring Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren and then 341 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, your characters on the other side 342 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: of the world. What did you do so much of 343 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: the poll for Spencer is getting home, getting home to 344 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: this life, this responsibility, this duty. How did you approach 345 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: in your own mind and imagination developing a relationship to 346 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: these characters that you're not working with, you're on the 347 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: other side of the world. What did you do with 348 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: those other you know, your your your siblings on the show, 349 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: these other characters, so you have a rich relationship to 350 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: How did you build that bond with Montana and the 351 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: Dutton ranch such that we can feel Spencer's pain being 352 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: separated from it? 353 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I I it's a similar I you know, 354 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 4: I did a similar thing with the war, just just 355 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 4: you know, you just build memory, you know, and then 356 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 4: just meditating with them, sitting with them until until they 357 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 4: feel real. 358 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 3: So he's such an internal. 359 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 4: Character, so you know, you got to do that Otherwise, 360 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 4: just there's nothing going on. 361 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break really quick, and when we 362 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna keep talking to Brandon because there's 363 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: a lot more to talk about. 364 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 3: Keep talking. 365 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I have a question that I need to 366 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 2: ask before I forget, because I will forget. And it 367 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 2: is a specific moment and we were talking a little 368 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 2: bit earlier about loading things with memory. When the Julia 369 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: character makes the decision to come after Spencer, to come 370 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: after you and runs to the car and she gets 371 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: in the car and she yells to him, find somebody 372 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: who loves you. You got you were emotional in that moment. 373 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: I remember noticing that, and it was it really struck me. 374 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: And if I don't know, I don't know if you 375 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: remember that moment, I don't know if you can talk 376 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: a little bit about that. It struck me because it 377 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: felt very much like something that was so deeply tied 378 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: to the character, but it also felt to me like 379 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 2: something that was tied that existed between, like that great 380 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: thing that can happen with actors where you're like, I 381 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: don't know. It felt like it had both. It felt 382 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: like it had the actor's connection and the character's connection 383 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 2: in it. 384 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 4: It's tough, it's it's it's tough to delineate what's what's 385 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 4: a Spencer thing and what's a brand and thing it 386 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 4: really is when, especially when you're when you're in it. 387 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: Those lines are hard to see. 388 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: But I do I can speak from from Spencer's point 389 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 4: of view that you know he's had such a such 390 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 4: a barrier up for such a long time, I mean 391 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 4: years and years, such a strong barrier, and no one's 392 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 4: ever crossed that barrier. And I think he's just overwhelmed 393 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 4: by this person he doesn't even know, who's just so 394 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 4: see something in him to the point where where she's 395 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 4: just like steam rolls through that that fucking thing so 396 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 4: and it hits him hard. You know, there's that level 397 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 4: of just blind faith. And I want to say love, 398 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 4: but I think it is love at that point, even 399 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 4: though it's so early on. You see something in him, 400 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 4: and I think it just catches him off guard and 401 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 4: it just hits him right in the art. You know, 402 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 4: my here's this person. He doesn't even know me, and 403 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 4: he doesn't think very highly of himself. So I think 404 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 4: it just it just, you know, starts to just fill 405 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 4: his cup a little bit. I think it's it's the 406 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 4: first few drops in that in that cup, you know 407 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 4: that's been empty for a long time, and I think 408 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 4: I think that's what it is. 409 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: One of the things that Jeff and I experience on 410 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: Yellowstone is that the shoots can be a bit grueling 411 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 2: because we're often doing what we're what it appears we're 412 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: doing or sometimes it feels like we're shooting a doc 413 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: and that's part of what makes the job so great. 414 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 2: And I was wondering if there were days on this 415 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 2: show that stood out in your mind, is like a 416 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: particularly adventurous shoot day or or a challenging one, because 417 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: so many of the sequences that you're in are beautiful 418 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: and epic and and riveting, and wondering what was sort 419 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: of the stand adults for you. 420 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it was just all the swimming episode six, 421 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 4: all that swimming, man, that was that was that was tough. 422 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: That was only the toughest thing I've. 423 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 4: Done, uh, on a on a on a project, hands down, 424 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 4: I mean, one of the toughest things I've done in general. 425 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 4: And I'm I'm I'm in pretty decent shape. And we 426 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 4: swam a lot going into that and it was it 427 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 4: was hard because the water was cold, it was ocean water, 428 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 4: and it was pretty chilly outside. And what ends up 429 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: being in the show, as you guys know, it's you know, 430 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 4: a few minutes in the show, but we did for 431 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 4: four days, so you're you're you know, I'm watching it 432 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, that's it. 433 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: That's all for it. 434 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's like, yeah, we were, we were you know, 435 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 4: we were out there and Guy Ferland, our director. I 436 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 4: remember we'd come in off the off the water and 437 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 4: Julian and I would be to and shaken to the 438 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 4: to the bones and uh, you know, soaking wet in 439 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 4: the wind, and. 440 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: I would be like was He's like, oh, it's amazing. 441 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 3: You look like you're really struggling out there. 442 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, Guy, yeah we are. Uh it's 443 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 4: uh yeah that that that that that was. 444 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: That was a trip. That was. That was great. 445 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 4: I mean it's it's you know, they're they're tough days, 446 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 4: but you love those days because you don't have there's 447 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 4: no acting, you know, and anytime you can cut out 448 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 4: the acting, it's great. 449 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 3: So I'm i'm i'm I'm I'm. 450 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 4: Grateful for those days. I love those days. But those 451 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 4: were those were hard days. 452 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: Brandon. This is not the most highbrow question, but because 453 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: everybody's obsessed with Indiana Jones and Harrison Ford and for 454 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: whatever reason, it's given me some Indiana Jones vibes. Has 455 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 2: has anyone else said this to you? 456 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I've I've heard a lot of the Indiana 457 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 4: Jones h vibe comparison talks. Yeah, it's it's you know, 458 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 4: it's the same color palette. 459 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: Hey, it's more than that, don't dumb it. It's more 460 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: than that. 461 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: You know, Brandy, They tell me the same thing. I've 462 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: been dealing with this for five seasons now. Everybody looks 463 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: at me and says, Indiana Jones. 464 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: You know Indiana Jones. 465 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get sick of it, right, It's kind of 466 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: it gets old being compared to one of the most 467 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: iconic characters and performances in history. 468 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, taicular, leave it. It's it's a burden. 469 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 3: You got a bear. No, it's it's it's it's. 470 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 4: A good Yeah, you know, you hope to not get 471 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 4: any comparisons, but it's human nature to get comparisons, and 472 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 4: it's it's a hell of a comparison. 473 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 3: So I'll take it. 474 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's I mean, if I were watching it, 475 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 4: I compare myself to it as well, just based on 476 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 4: Harrison being in the show. And then, like I said, 477 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: is the same we both carry around. India doesn't carry 478 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 4: a rope, but he used he uses a whip. 479 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: I go the other direction. I was watching Indiana Jones 480 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: the other day and I was kind of like, damn, 481 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: this is a bit of a Spencer Dutton outfit. 482 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. 483 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: My man's kind of Spencer dut lately. Oh we got 484 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: the girl, Spencer Dutton vibes. 485 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 3: Spencer Dunn vibes. 486 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, we haven't seen Spencer's whip yet, 487 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 4: but he's he's going in that bag. 488 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: He's very resourceful, bro. Because you're also saying, you know, 489 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: it's a dangerous journey home, but also, let's be honest, 490 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: home is pretty fucking dangerous too. The shift that's going 491 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: down at the dust like, it's I'm very excited and listen, 492 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what I don't know what happens after 493 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: episode seven. I don't know what happens in episode eight. 494 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what happens in I hope there's a 495 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: million more episodes to come. But I'm extremely excited for 496 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: the you know, to see Spencer Dutton reunited God, you know, 497 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: God willing on the ranch, putting these skills to work, 498 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, on if he can if he can kill 499 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: an elephant, if he can kill a lion, surely he 500 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: can kill these like scruffy sheep herding guys. 501 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 4: Right, Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't think that 502 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 4: there's really an obstacle that he can't face. I mean, 503 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 4: he is one of the most capable characters there are, 504 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 4: I think, far more capable than I am. Yeah, now 505 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 4: I'm I'm excited for him to get back to the range. 506 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: Brandon, thanks so much, man. Honestly, we're just fans. Yeah, 507 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: it is unsurprising that in real life you're basically Spencer Dutton. 508 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, and so it is a It's a 509 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: great honor to meet you as a fan of your work, 510 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: as a fan of the show. Thank you for taking 511 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: the time to talk with us. What a gift. 512 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 4: Thanks man, I appreciate that so much. I'm happy you 513 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 4: guys are digging it, and I'm excited if you're to 514 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 4: see the rest. 515 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 3: Of it for sure. 516 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: Same, It's amazing and you really are incredible. 517 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 3: Thanks Brandon, Thank you guys so much. Appreciate you guys. 518 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: The Official Yellowstone Podcast is a production of one oh 519 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: one Studios and Paramount. This episode was produced by Scott Stone. 520 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: Brandon Goetchis is the head of audio for one oh 521 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: one Studios. Steve Razis is the executive vice president of 522 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: the Paramount Global Podcast Group. Special thanks to Megan Marcus, 523 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: Jeremy Westfall, Ainsley Rosito, Andrew Sarnow, Jason Red and Whitney 524 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: Baxter from Paramount, and of course, David Glasser, David Huckin 525 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: and Michelle Newman from one oh one Studios