WEBVTT - The Quinoa Revolution! 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:04.640 Welcome to Stuff You Should Know from how Stuff Works 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:14.200 dot com. Hang and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:18.200 Charles W. Chuck Bryant's right there, Jerry's right there. It's 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:21.080 a little chilly in here. So it's Stuff you should 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:26.680 know the podcast because it's chili. That's the cherry on top. 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:33.839 That's right. Uh, spoiler or not spoiler teaser At the 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:38.239 end of this episode, let's say, between the end and 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:42.080 before listener mail that's agreeable to you. At the forty 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:46.000 three minute more, we are going to taste soilent for 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:49.640 the first time live on the air. Yeah, I guess 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:51.159 I should have thought this too. I took him out 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:53.920 of the fridge already, so three minutes for it to 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.560 warm up. Should we put them back? Well, I wouldn't 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:59.200 you know. I wasn't gonna say anything. Then I was 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:01.720 going to say something. Should I put them back? Well, 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:08.920 it's probably best cold. Okay, We'll hang on everybody, So, yes, 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:12.479 we're gonna try soiling eventually in this episode. That's right. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:17.560 I'm excited to try soil it or to talk about both. Okay, 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.520 So Chucky just kind of gave it away alongside the 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:28.440 title we're talking about keene wa today, not quinoa, no keena, 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:34.280 that's right. But super food, yes, some I saying yeah. 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.399 I mean you can make a pretty good claim that 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:39.119 it is a super food. And what is the super 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.720 food if not a type of food that has a 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.840 lot going on just in and of itself. It's super Yeah, 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:50.080 like blueberries are super food or a saberry super food 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:56.160 or a si e berries. Yeah, algae was I didn't 0:01:56.200 --> 0:02:03.160 know algae was? I buy that? Hemp seeds, chia seeds, yeah, 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:06.960 A lot of nuts, rich crackers, M, I don't know. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:11.440 Those are just super super delicious buttery. Yeah, with my 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:16.520 crabb dip especially one day, maybe I'll find out what 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:18.200 you just want me to bring you grabbed up? Ye, 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:24.400 give me a cooking lesson. Uh So Keinwa. There at 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:28.280 least a hundred and twenty varieties and it is nothing new. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.880 It's been around. In fact, we might as well delve 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:37.120 into a little history here. It's been cultivated for geez, 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.720 more than five thousand years. I saw up to eight 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:44.000 thousand years. Almost more than five thousand, well, I guess 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.200 we could say more than five years. More more than 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:50.280 the last six months. Chema has been around on this planet. Yeah, 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:56.359 and it's Andean plant and specifically originated um around Lake 0:02:56.360 --> 0:03:00.480 Titty Kaka in Peru, in Bolivia in the altiplan. Yeah, 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:04.080 it's wonderful, wonderful area. Have you been. Oh no, but 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:07.120 just look at photos. Sure, Machu Picchu, You're like, well, 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.800 look at that place exactly one day. Maybe I'd like 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.959 to go for sure, But it is um. There is 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:18.440 historical evidence of it um being domesticated, like we said, 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.040 is maybe as long as eight thousand years ago. And 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:25.560 they even saw in uh in ancient tombs, they saw 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.640 a little you know, archaeological drawings and things that what 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:32.440 they think is keen wa. So people were ingesting it 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.400 and using it as a super food way back when. Yeah. 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.040 And the fact that it grew up there, or grows 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.360 up there, and not only grows, but thrives up in 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:48.320 this high rocky I think, pretty much arid plateau that's 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.960 also very cold. It doesn't make any sense that you'd 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.400 have anything but like al PACs and lama's up there. 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.560 But in fact, there's a plant that's one of the 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.960 most nutritious foods on the planet that just so happens 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.200 to thrive up there in Bolivian Peru in the highlands. 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.880 That's pretty awesome, it is, And so of course they 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:10.880 they have used this for thousands and thousands of years, um, 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:14.880 and it wasn't. It wasn't until I think the early 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:17.960 twentieth century that it really started to make its way 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.719 for the first time out to the United States. I 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:23.520 think the U. S d A got their hands on 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.320 it and tried to get farmers to grow it here 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.960 in the States, and they said, nah, let's give it 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.880 another hundred years, maybe a little less. Yeah, I mean 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:32.800 the twenty first century is when it really kind of 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.560 became popular. And even in the last she's mid two 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:40.520 thousand's you can even talk about it being trendy. Well 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:44.560 supposedly the whole trend for keen wa, which, by the way, 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:47.560 in typical stuff, you should know, fashion has already come 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.760 and gone, and now we're doing an episode on it. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.720 Oh it's not gone, are you sure? Oh? Yeah, Okay, Well, 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:56.440 do you know how keen Wa hit the hit the map, 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.119 hit the scene, Well, in a lot of different ways. 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:03.880 I assume you think it's one thing only Oprah. Yeah, 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:05.279 she had something to do with it, for sure. She 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.640 she was on some sort of cleansed diet in two 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:12.880 thousand and eight, and um, she uh eight keen jan mushrooms, 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.440 I guess, And everybody was like, what is that? And 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.920 she's like, oh, you've been calling it kenoa, it's keen wa. 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.120 And he said, well we have to try this now. Yeah, 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:26.520 she definitely was a factor Oprah. Her reaches wide, but 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:30.039 it doesn't reach me. You're not an opre fan. No. 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.160 I think she's fine, But I didn't learn about keene 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:35.320 wa from her or anything else where. Did you learn 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.520 about keene then? Just you know, I think the first 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.520 time I had it was in a restaurant. So it's 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.839 to me it's spread because chefs started using it because 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:50.200 they watch Oprah exactly. Chefs don't serve anything unless zero uh. 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.479 Here in the United States, um, you know, talked about 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.120 at least a hundred and twenty varieties. You're more than 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.040 likely going to be eating the red, red, white, and blue, 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:04.599 no red or black varieties of keenwa. And do you 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:06.320 eat it in your home? I guess we'll get to 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.599 this stuff, but I'm curious of vive cooked with it 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:10.760 a lot, not a lot? Now I had it here, 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.840 they're had in a couple of restaurants. So this stuff 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:18.000 is Uh. It's known as an ancient grain, but it's 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:22.240 not exactly a grain, and it's not exactly a cereal. 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:28.080 It's classified technically as a pseudo cereal. Like fruity pebbles, 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:34.120 that's a cereal. They just came out with cinnamon pebbles. Oh, 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.760 but does a good Yeah, you could they click cinnamon 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.720 old shoes and put them in a cereal box and 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:43.280 it'd be good. But Quinwa technically is a pseudo cereal. Um. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.839 It comes from the goose foot plant, right, that's why 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.640 it's not a cereal. Cereal is a grain that comes 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:53.400 from a grass, and goose Foot's not a grass, it's 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.400 a plant. No. And it looks kind of weedy, and 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.560 as we'll see later when you're cultivating, it looks alarmingly 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:04.960 like some other we with the capital W. It looks 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:10.240 like marijuana, a little bit from afar. That brilliant red 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:15.800 and brilliant yellow marijuana looks like I'm not sure you 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:22.600 know what marijuana is. Uh, I'll show you a picture something, okay. Um. 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.280 It is labeled the whole grain though, because it's actually 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.640 it fits the whole grain definition because it is the 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.720 whole grain seed which you're eating. Yeah, Like when you 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.160 talk about grains usually again you're you're talking about these 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.560 things from grass is like wheat, right, and there's such 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:41.080 a thing as whole grain wheat. But once we process something, 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:45.680 once we mill it or um shell it, smack it 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.560 on the bottom, whatever you do to them, you're actually 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.800 removing certain parts of the grain. Right. So with like 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:56.760 um enriched white flower, that's you've taken a whole wheat 0:07:56.800 --> 0:08:00.960 grain and you've removed the brand and the journey, and 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:05.800 you've just got yourself the endosperm still. And the endosperm 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.680 is what's used mostly for to produce white flower. And 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:13.240 that's great. It's full of like quick, easily digestible carbs, 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.160 but a lot of the nutrients are lost and actually 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.520 not easily digestible for many people. That's true too, um, 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.880 but a lot of the nutrients are lost in the process. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.480 So even if you can digest it no problem, you're 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.680 not getting most of the nutrients that were there in 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.600 the first place. With a whole grain, it's got the brand, 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.360 the germ, and the endosperm, and they're all working together 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:36.040 to make you vastly healthier than you would be if 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.800 you're just eating the endosperm like you do in white 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:43.640 white flower and um quinoa in particular. Is it's really 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:47.240 weird when you look at it. It's closer. You wouldn't 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.240 think so, but it's closer to shard and beats and 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:55.280 spinach plant is anything else. Yeah, it's crazy. So imagine if, 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.920 like from spinach plants, we got not only the leaves 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:03.520 but also the seeds turned out to be whole grains. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:05.920 That's what's going on. It's a weird plant. It is. 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.960 It shouldn't grow where it grows. It shouldn't be a cereal, 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.360 shouldn't be a grain, It shouldn't be related to beats, 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:17.680 shouldn't be delicious, but it is. Uh, and it's super 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.640 super good for you, Like we're saying, it's a super 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.760 food and um. One of the reasons, and another thing 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.360 that makes it very strange is that it has a 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.680 ton of protein, which is pretty unusual for a plant 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.240 to have this much protein. Yeah, this article made that point, 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.560 but I wouldn't. Look, there's a lot of other plants 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.800 that have pretty good amounts of protein in them. What 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:43.679 rivals keenwa at a mommy black beans, lima beans, chickpeas 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.160 all beat it by a mile. Yeah. I just thought 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.520 it was weird because not only did this article say it, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.480 I ran across it elsewhere too that they were like, 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.640 this is it's amazing how much protein it has, and 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.000 it has like a decent amount, especially for a plant. 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.719 It's just not like eye popping or anything like that. 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.200 You know, he's gets hyperbole. I kind of pooh pooed 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:05.320 that one. Okay, yeah, what it does have, unless you 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.760 think is not true as well, Well, I'll be the 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:12.280 judge of ten at least ten amino acids. And uh, 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.160 that's good, right? Or is it bad too? I guess 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:19.160 it's okay. No, it's chock full of amino acids, which 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.360 is great for your body because our body cannot make 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.880 amino acids, so we have to get them from food sources. Well, 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:30.000 they it can't make essential amino acids. It can make essential, 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.400 non essential amino acids, but the essential ones we have 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:37.480 to get from food. And Keenoa is in a very 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:43.160 small group of plants that are um complete sources of protein, 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.679 meaning that they have all of the essential amino acids 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.120 that we need in them. Yes, you don't find that 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.319 and plants very frequently. That's what helps make it a 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:57.120 super food exactly. Uh, it's not very high in calorie, 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:03.240 no sugar, no cholesterol, no sodium. What else? ZINCC has 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.560 a lot of potassium too. Apparently it has the most 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:10.920 potassium of any food plant that that is around. Potassium 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.120 is really good at regulating blood pressure because potassiums in 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:19.679 charge of things like fluid retention and electrical conduction throughout cells. Um. 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.160 I think just compared to grains, there are plenty of 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:26.520 other fruits with potassium. Okay, is that what it was? Yeah? 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.680 Like bananas are loaded with potassium, are they? Or is 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:33.960 that the work of Edward Bernice? No, bananas are really 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:40.000 good for you. Uh what else? Fiber, magnesium, full late, Yeah, 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.640 that's good free. Well that's a big one man. So 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:48.880 it's very commonly touted as a gluten free um food 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:53.160 grain UM, which is good for people who have Celiac disease. 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.120 But apparently they've tested there's at least would you say, 0:11:56.120 --> 0:12:02.480 a hundred and fifty varieties that are like agricultural production 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:06.079 right now, and um, somebody tested a bunch of them 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:07.959 and they came up with like at least four that 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.840 created a Celiac response, Yeah, so you gotta be careful. 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.840 For the most part, they are gluten free, but they 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.680 there are a few varieties out there that can touch off. 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:21.000 The old Celiac response. Well, I think one of the 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:24.280 deals though, is we're not seeing those in the marketplace though, 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.040 which is one of the We'll get to it, but 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.800 it's one of the potential problems is we're only eating 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:33.800 like three or four of the varieties, and I think 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.640 those are for sure gluten free. Like if you go 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.560 to your grocery store, you're not gonna see varieties of 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:48.120 this stuff, you know. Yeah, you're probably right. Uh all right, Well, 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.240 let's take a break and we're gonna get back and 0:12:50.400 --> 0:13:19.120 talk a little bit about cooking this delicious stuff. Oh so, Chuck, 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.960 you were going to lay it on everybody how to 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.800 cook quene wa. It's easy. If you can cook rice, 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.160 you can cook quene wa. Yeah. I would say, well, 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.800 it's easier than I would say it's easier than rice. 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:36.400 It doesn't stick like rice does. Yeah, exactly. That's probably 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:41.520 rice's biggest downfall, the sticky Yeah. Um, it's also what 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.800 makes it great though, too. Sure, depending up what kind 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:49.040 of rice you're getting, Um, I eat keene waite the house. 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.920 I wouldn't say a lot, but enough, like every couple 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.880 of weeks. Oh yeah, that's a lot, is it? Wait? 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.000 It is to me? So what you do is you 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:02.280 want to rinse it? Yeah, like you will some kinds 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.120 of rice. The bag you're you're buying is probably going 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.800 to say pre rinsed or pre washed or something like that. 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.520 You want to rinse it anyway, right, Yeah, they have 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.160 this um. It's actually really good for you, this coating 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:19.400 called sapping in um. And despite it's it's great health effects, 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.000 when you add water to it, it lathers up like 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:27.760 a soap. H yeah, and in fact it means it's 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:31.920 from the Latin sapo, which is soap. So you don't 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:33.880 want to eat it even though it's good for you know, 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:36.680 the plant produces it to keep like pests away from 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:39.520 it from eating it. Yeah, so you rinse that stuff 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.479 off get keen when once you see it, it's really tiny. 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.760 So you want to get a really fine strainer, not 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.080 like a colander. You get a calndar. Then all like 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.560 keena is gonna be where set down the drain man. 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.760 I hate mondays, so get like a sifter really fine, 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.960 sifter rinse it real good until it's the water is 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.960 running clear, and um, base plea cook it like rice. 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:05.400 It's uh one part keene watered, two parts water or broth. 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:08.600 Well that's what I do. I used chicken broth. You'd 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:12.680 be a madman is to use like water or veggie 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:17.000 broth if you're you know, weird or off the meat. 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:23.280 I'm just kidding. Um, beef broth if you're gross. That 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.280 doesn't pair well with keen wa. I could see it not. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.240 I'm just not a big beef broth guy. I might 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:32.040 have said, beef you did with th? Yeah, that's kind 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:37.920 of cute beef broth beef broth. But I used chicken. 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.800 I used like half. So if I do the two 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:42.520 cups of water, I'll do one cup water, one cup 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:46.040 chicken broth. Oh you cut your chicken broth? Yeah, I 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.080 just kind of do half and half. I got stomp 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.080 on it. Yeah. Uh so then you cook it like rice, 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:52.920 like I said, you're gonna boil it and then once 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.400 it gets to a boil covered up, turn it down 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.080 low and wait and let it simmer until it's all 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.640 soaked up. Yeah, and then this started. Well I'm not 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.400 as acquainted with cooking keen on as you are. But 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.120 this article says that you want to look for the spirals, 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.720 the seed spirals to be prominent. What's the deal with that? 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:12.840 You'll see when you look at it, like before you 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.800 cook it, it looks different than afterward. And that's the 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:17.840 easiest way to say it. Like, once you look, it's 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.480 almost like they pop open or something. And um, it's 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.760 just quite obvious. It's just big and light and fluffy. 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.200 You see the little seed spiral. What's need is and 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:27.960 we kind of walked past it. But you said it 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.880 a couple of times that that stepping in is um 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:33.960 good for you, really good for you? Yeah, it has 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:38.600 some amazing properties, like it's anti tumor, anti ulcer uh, 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:43.360 anti inflammatory, And so you have to imagine, like again 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:46.760 that this plant is growing in this random place where 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:49.240 plants aren't really supposed to grow, and it thrives there 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.040 and it's full of all these new treents and the 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:56.480 outer coating is that anti inflammatory, anti tumor agent that 0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:00.400 you wash away? Yeah, it's kind of sad. You could 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.639 save it, sip on it later. I wonder what would happen, Like, 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:06.560 how would you have to ingest. Do you think, like, 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.720 would it have any anti inflammatory properties if you like 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.359 drank sappening? Do you think or do you need to 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.720 like inject it into your eye, I don't know, or 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.800 mix it into a salve, maybe rub on your skin. Yeah, 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:21.679 I'm not sure. That's a good question. I bet people know. 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.880 We'll hear about that up in Bolivia. They know. Uh. 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.040 So you can eat it in a variety of ways. 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.320 You can just eat it as a side dish like 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:34.200 you would with rice or cuscus or whatever, mashed potatoes. 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.520 Although I would eat the mashed potatoes. You could mix 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.359 it with mashed potatoes, right, No, I wouldn't do that. 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.520 One one thing that the author of this article, I 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.840 think it's a Leah hoyt um. She said that she 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.679 likes to mix it in instead of breadcrumbs into like 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:55.760 meatballs or burger. Why not keen wa burger? Yeah? So 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:57.840 is there such a thing as a keen wa burger? 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.439 That's just keen wah? Could you make that? Or do 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.320 you need something to bind it? I think you probably 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:08.119 need binding agents, yeah, beef broths or I don't know. 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.400 I've never made a keen war burger and I don't 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.320 make any kind of edgie burger by like in my home, 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:16.760 So I wouldn't really know how to go about that. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.280 What do you do turkey burgers? Or I do turkey? 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.359 Turkey burgers are pretty good depending on the brand. Some 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.760 are just like what is this texture? Yeah, I mean, 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.760 I'm making myself with my own little recipe. But um, 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:33.960 that's just because Emily didn't eat beef beef. So I've 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.720 gotten so into the turkey burger that I don't even 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.840 really I mean, I'll I'll have a beef burger out 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.320 never home. You and I are sympatico on the home 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:47.600 burger cooking. Yea, do you grill or do you skill it? 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:55.520 Foreman grill? Oh yeah, it's pretty great. Half. We watched 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:58.240 that grease strip out of the front, and I've noticed 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:00.879 many times like I will do on the same ling 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.560 grease out of my mouth. Uh. So here's my favorite 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:07.480 keen whye dish. And I got it from a restaurant 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:11.400 in New York, uh that I can't remember. But they're 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.280 all kinds of variations, but I have it. Um, I 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.080 cook it and then put it in the fridge and 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:19.120 chill it like overnight. So in the summer, I will 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:22.840 get that cold keenewa and then dice up like some 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:27.959 cucumber and some red onion, and I mean kind of 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:31.479 anything you want like that fits a salad summer salad, 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:37.440 like orange pepper, like crunchy green pepper or roasted red pepper, garlic, 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.320 throw some pine nuts in there right now, like you 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:45.160 get some basil, some fresh herbs. That's the way to go, man. Yeah, 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.280 like anything that strikes your fancy. Maybe a little lemon juice, 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:51.880 little apple cider, vinegar, but the base of it is yeah, 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:53.720 and you just mix up anything that you kind of 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:56.840 you know, it might add some texture like that crunch 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.959 and um, and serve it along. I'd like a burger 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.720 instead of fries. Oh yeah, it's really really good. And 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:08.399 you know me, I'm not. I'm not into healthy foods 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.440 like that a lot, which means it's good, which means 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:15.560 it's really good and packs with protein, don't forget. That's right. 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.600 It's the complete source of protein. So that's or maybe 0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.560 some dried cranberry or golden raisins. We're not big on 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:23.960 that kind of stuff in the salad. Oh yeah, I 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:27.560 know a lot of people like it. Not me. I 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.880 don't love the golden raisins, but I do like the cranberry. Yeah, yeah, 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.640 I think it's nice. All right. So that's Chuck's recipe 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:37.080 of the week. It's pretty good. We'll do that every week, 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:39.760 no matter what the topic is. What are you gonna 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:43.920 come up with the degrade? Oh? Just you wait? Um, 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:47.840 So here's the deal with keen wa. It's gotten really trendy. 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.800 So in two thousand and seven, the United States was 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:58.879 importing uh seven point three million pounds of keena. They 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:03.560 were imported fifth seven million pounds and who god knows 0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:05.560 what it is this year. You know, a lot of 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:09.760 that was the direct result of a single person of 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.480 what of Oprah? Yeah, it all comes down to Oprah. No, 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:16.440 there's this dude. Um. He was a U N development 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:20.840 worker from Bolivia who had moved to California, and um, 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:25.080 he had obviously grown up at least familiar with keene 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:30.200 wife not eating keenewa. His name was Sergio Nouniez the Arcode, 0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:34.040 and he he saw that keen wa was starting to 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:35.720 catch on a little bit. I guess he saw that 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:39.119 episode of Oprah. So we went back to Bolivia and 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:42.440 he found that there were only a few indigenous producers 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:46.480 who were putting out like retail sized bags of keene wa. 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.639 So he went around and he basically created a co 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:53.240 op out of all the indigenous farmers who create, go 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:58.600 grow keen Wa and Bolivia and made the supply from 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:02.679 them reliable enough and big enough too. It's to supply 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:06.720 industry abroad around the world. And this guy almost basically 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.200 was the flash point for the keen wa explosion. He 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:12.280 helped it happen, and he made sure that it was 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:15.120 based on the work of the people who were originally 0:22:15.960 --> 0:22:19.240 cultivating keen wa. Yeah, which is a big one. Yeah. 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:21.320 He went from in two thousand five he sold twenty 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:25.800 five thousand dollars worth UH through his company, and these 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.680 days he saw him about twenty six million dollars worth 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:32.679 annually from his own facility and about forty million from 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:36.400 other facilities. So he basically went around to them and said, Hey, 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.399 these weekend farmers markets are cute, but how would you 0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:42.440 like to be a part of the industrial food supply. 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:46.119 You put down that pamphlute. We're talking business here. Did 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:49.320 they play the pamphlute? Yeah? Because Andy and Highlanders they 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:53.560 love that love that junking. Is that where zam Fears from. No, 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:57.600 I think Sam Fear is. I think he's Mediterranean. I 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:01.240 wanted to say Greek and pretty sure. Okay, I don't 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:04.160 know if I'm getting He and Yanni confused, though, oh yeah, 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.040 maybe we are. They seem like they probably at least 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:09.600 go bowling together. Yanny didn't play the pan fleet, that 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:13.119 did he? No, No, Sam Fear is definitely master of 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:15.520 the pan Fleet. Of course, you can't call yourself that 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:18.879 on a CD unless Oprah has said so and that 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:22.040 has the stamp of approval. So um, the price has 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:24.480 really gone up to as a result, and it was 0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:27.840 not small um for a lot of years. One metric 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:31.760 ton was about five dred dollars and in two thousand 0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:35.800 and ten that was dollars. So that's almost threefold. And 0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:38.320 again that was six years seven, almost seven years ago. 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:42.040 I kept going up to I think it picked in two. Yeah, 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:44.879 it was. The price went up quite a bit, so 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:46.760 you would think that's great. These farmers are making a 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:50.960 ton of money now right, Yes, apparently. I don't know 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:56.760 where it started, but somebody created um some I guess 0:23:56.800 --> 0:24:00.840 somebody wrote an article or started digging around and they said, hey, everybody, 0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:03.320 you guys are eating all this keen walk. Guess what 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:06.800 you did. You drove up prices so much that the 0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:10.800