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Speaker 1: What is up? Everybody, Welcome into a Monday edition of

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access a victory Monday edition. So what does

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Speaker 1: a different one later on. But man, all kinds of

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Speaker 1: things because the Texans win right there for you. So

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Speaker 1: we will take a look back and see what the

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Speaker 1: Texans were able to do yesterday against the Jaguars. It

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Speaker 1: was a fun afternoon and I had the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: catch up with a couple of the key particulars after

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Speaker 1: the game. I'll start with Devion Clowney. Now this story,

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Speaker 1: there's a little story that goes with this interview. Now,

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Speaker 1: I would have chosen j D after the game regardless,

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Speaker 1: because when you look at the stat line and how

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Speaker 1: dominant he was yesterday, seven tackles, I believe it was

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Speaker 1: seven tackles's I think that's the number that I have.

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Speaker 1: Seven tackles. He had two sacks and big ones too,

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Speaker 1: two of them on Cody Kessler two to fourteen yards.

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Speaker 1: He had two tackles for a loss. He had four

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Speaker 1: quarterback hits, and he came up with that fumble recovery.

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Speaker 1: Now that's that line is pretty pretty dumb good to

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Speaker 1: say the least against the Jacksonville Jaguars, and I would

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Speaker 1: have wanted to talk to him, But there were other

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Speaker 1: candidates to Whitney Merciless four tackles, a sack, at tackle

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Speaker 1: for a lost quarterback hit, two forced fumbles. He forced

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Speaker 1: the fumble that Dewion Clowney got on on the first

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Speaker 1: drive of the game when Bartos scrambled out wit Pop

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Speaker 1: popped it away, just poked at it. Bull just bounding

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Speaker 1: on the ground and climbs like, oh the rock, let

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Speaker 1: me go get it. It's Clowne picked up. So I

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Speaker 1: would have I would have Whitney would have been a

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Speaker 1: good one. I would am I talking to de Sean,

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Speaker 1: although we'll have some opportunity, I would think to talk

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Speaker 1: to de Sean. You know, those numbers weren't fantastic, But

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Speaker 1: when you think about how this game will be remembered,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun on the bus, that's what you're gonna remember this.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is when you think back Jacksonville twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the Shawan on the bus game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the way this one will be remembered. And Deshaun

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Speaker 1: was not. I mean, he's put up much better numbers

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Speaker 1: twelve or twenty four, one, thirty nine, one touchdown, but

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Speaker 1: no picks and only sacked once. And that sack came

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Speaker 1: with eleven minutes left to go in the first quarter,

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Speaker 1: so Jacks didn't get another sack for forty five plus

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Speaker 1: for fifty six minutes. So good. The offensive line was

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Speaker 1: so I could have picked a couple off and alignment too,

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Speaker 1: but I picked you Devon Clowney in large part because

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Speaker 1: JD called his shot and what do I mean by that. Well,

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Speaker 1: last week when we played Buffalo, I was in the

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Speaker 1: locker room and I talked to Jjoe in the locker

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Speaker 1: room was pretty hyped up as as it should have been.

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Speaker 1: I was walking by. I shake hands, you know with

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Speaker 1: the guys, you know, congratulate him, give him five, dapt

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Speaker 1: him up, whatever, and I get the clowning. He goes, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be talking to you next week. I'll be

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Speaker 1: seeing you next week because first of all, a lot

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Speaker 1: of the guys will only talk if we win, which

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Speaker 1: I don't. I that's reasonable. I get that. And JD

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Speaker 1: was fantastic last year against Arizona, he was tremendous in

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Speaker 1: a game against the Cardinals and Andre Johnson day, and

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Speaker 1: so he just looked at me, I'll be seeing you.

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Speaker 1: So when he starts to have this ball game and

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing him like that's a phone recovery. Well, there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of tackles for no game. There's a tackle

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Speaker 1: for a loss. Oh, there's a there's another side. I

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Speaker 1: said to Nathan. I said, Nathan I'd like our our

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Speaker 1: I said, Nathan, I want Clowney and he goes, okay,

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Speaker 1: right cool. So I had a chance to catch you

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Speaker 1: up with Devion Clowney after just in an absolutely outstanding

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Speaker 1: football game on Sunday against the Jacksonville Jaguars down in

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Speaker 1: the victorious locker room, which you Devion Clowney, who, by

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Speaker 1: the way, called a shot because last week I saw

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Speaker 1: you after the game. What did you say to me?

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Speaker 1: I'll be talking to you next You'll want to talk

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Speaker 1: to me, And I did want to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: A couple of sacks, A big momentum turner right there

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Speaker 1: at the end on Kesser. How big was that one? Oh,

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Speaker 1: very big man came ahead? Total defense today, everybody brought

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Speaker 1: the game by to play it to the last echo

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Speaker 1: of the whistle man and I got the win of day.

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Speaker 1: How big is this win? Start going three? This is

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Speaker 1: four in a row, Texas the top first place. How

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Speaker 1: makes this one, Oh very big man. Everybody counted us out. Man,

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Speaker 1: those people then believe in. If everybody in this locker

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Speaker 1: room kept locked and stay locked in and kept believing

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Speaker 1: and we knew what we had, we just kept working,

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Speaker 1: going to work every day, and the day we came back,

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Speaker 1: and then we then one in the division. That's all

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Speaker 1: we're fighting for. You obviously, move all over the formation.

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Speaker 1: Was there anything that you were able to see from

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Speaker 1: where you were coming at different angles? Was there any

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Speaker 1: place where you're like, I'm coming from here and come

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Speaker 1: from here. I just kind of mixing you up all

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Speaker 1: day long. You feel like that was keeping your success today?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure, man, not keeping me in one spot.

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Speaker 1: That was part of our playing this week, moving around,

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Speaker 1: giving off the ball, penetrating, making calls, and having in

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Speaker 1: the backfield. And it worked out the day. Pass off

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Speaker 1: to the defensive coordinator room. He'll coming up with the

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Speaker 1: game playing and wrest them guys, and then we executed today.

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Speaker 1: How big were those turnovers early to get the fumble

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Speaker 1: early to get points right after that? How big were

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Speaker 1: the get the turnovers when he scrambles, you guys forced

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Speaker 1: the fumbelus? Oh man, turno was big and as Lea

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Speaker 1: and tain't even forced turno. Was hard to beat teams

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Speaker 1: a lot of talk about Jackson's defense and how good

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Speaker 1: it is. Did you guys hear that throughout the week

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Speaker 1: and want to prove something today? You just go out

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Speaker 1: there and do your game. It was always competitive. It

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Speaker 1: was always gonna be competitive weekend a week out. We

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Speaker 1: try to out calling him the day before they perform us.

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Speaker 1: And we came out and did that today. Okay, last one,

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Speaker 1: two nine? Being back today, Oh, I love awesome? Was that?

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Speaker 1: It was very awesome. Man. That guy one of the

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Speaker 1: hardest workers on this team, if not the hardest. I

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Speaker 1: I can't say much, nothing much about Jerry hah Man here.

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Speaker 1: Excellent guy, role model for guys, so the follow him.

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Speaker 1: He's just a good dude. He's a good dude. He's

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Speaker 1: good football playing. You're my friend, our big time football dude.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, JEDDI, thank you man. I'm good. He is

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Speaker 1: the absolute best man. That guy's just he's too much.

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Speaker 1: He's so good on the field. He's good off the field. Uh,

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Speaker 1: He's He's just a fun He's just a fun guy.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what people missed the first couple of

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Speaker 1: get to see that personality. But then he started playing

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Speaker 1: been the game against the Colts, the game yesterday. There

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Speaker 1: have been games where JD has been just a shop wrecker.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I noticed this, and I thought

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Speaker 1: about this on the flight on the way home. I

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Speaker 1: was writing my observations on the flight and I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about the various things about this, about this particular game,

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Speaker 1: I see, you know, JJ didn't have the statistical game

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Speaker 1: that we've seen from him. He had one tackle, but

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Speaker 1: and the thing about it was jj was getting a lot,

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Speaker 1: we're starting to get to that point. Because you think

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Speaker 1: about combined, they had twelve tackles, they had three sacks,

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Speaker 1: and then against Dallas it was you know, JJ and Clowney,

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Speaker 1: and then yesterday it was Whitney and Clowney. And it's

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Speaker 1: that's really where it's kind of ramped up since then.

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Speaker 1: And look against Indianapolis, you know, they got tired in

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Speaker 1: NFL anymore. And they Texas have done that in three

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Speaker 1: straight weeks. In large part of that is because of Clowney, Watt, Merciless,

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Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harris, football analyst and sideline

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Speaker 1: reporter for your Houston Texans. Had an awesome day in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: keeps his team in a position to win. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know that's all you ask for in the quarterback

427
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 1: he is. He has cuffed his nails. I've had something

428
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Speaker 1: similar to what he's going through. I'm not sure it's identical,

429
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 1: but when I had that type of injury, it I've

430
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,919
Speaker 1: told you guys before, it hurts the smile. It certainly

431
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 1: hurts to laugh. But to get in an NFL game

432
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: where guys are coming at you weekend, week out and

433
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 1: this will be you know, this won't be a one

434
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 1: two week kind of deal. This maybe the rest of

435
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 1: the remainder of the season, because every time you get

436
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 1: touched there, it's almost like the injury starting over. So

437
00:20:55,359 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 1: this can always be some soreness and things of that sort. Wow, right,

438
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 1: what about the ability to run the ball yesterday? That

439
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 1: was huge? Yeah, we said going in that whoever really

440
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: established the running game against the other's That was one

441
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 1: of the weak spots of Jacksonville's defense. They get so

442
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 1: enamored with getting up the field and getting after the

443
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 1: quarterback that they sometimes forget that other teams are going

444
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: to run the football, and that's where they struggled. That's

445
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,200
Speaker 1: kind of been their sore spot this year. And when

446
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 1: the Texans were able to do that early and often,

447
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: I knew there'd be a pretty good deal of success

448
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: in the ball game. Drey. I asked Mark a little

449
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 1: while ago. Were you surprised that Jags went to Kessler yesterday,

450
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 1: especially when they did early in the third quarter? Were

451
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 1: you surprised at all? Not at all. I mean, you

452
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: start turning the ball over and the offense is sputtering already,

453
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: and it has been for a couple of weeks that

454
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 1: it didn't surprise me. Now what I think, Johnny, what

455
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 1: will surprise me is if they don't stick with Kessler

456
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: after the way he played yesterday. He gave him a

457
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 1: chance to win. He started, just about got him back

458
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: in the game, and then he had a pass ricochet

459
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 1: off of receiving an interception. But when you look at

460
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: how he played with a lack of a running game,

461
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: he goes through progressions and reads brutals, almost seems to

462
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: have taken a step back where he's locking on receivers

463
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: throwing there no matter what the fundamentals have come, you know,

464
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 1: have broken down again where all of a sudden, he's

465
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 1: got that big, elongated release where he as a defensive back,

466
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: he loved playing against a guy like that. So Kessler

467
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: gaves him a chance and he's gritty. He was getting

468
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 1: ready to dial one up yesterday, but the pressure got

469
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: to him as he was trying to go deep. But

470
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: he showed me a few things yesterday as to why

471
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson liked him coming out of the draft a

472
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Well, you mettured pressure and the

473
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: Texans got some yesterday. What about that front seven front five.

474
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Speaker 1: If you're will when you look at what Watton, Clowney

475
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: and Whitney Merciless yesterday having a nice game, Yeah, that's

476
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: that's kind of I think, guys, where we've been waiting

477
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 1: to see is that, you know, the three of those

478
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: guys getting after it. When you can stop the run,

479
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: then that allows you to kind of pin your ears

480
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: back a little bit and have some fun. And that's

481
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: exactly what they were able to do. I don't know

482
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: what Jenevian Clowney's you know, how he's changed his diet

483
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: or what he's eating the last few weeks, but somebody

484
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: needs to back a truck up and give him more

485
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: of it because he is playing some outstanding football. When

486
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: you start to be you know, you get to that

487
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: stage and you're that dominant, it's contagious and all of

488
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 1: a sudden, guys start to feed from it. It not

489
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: only helps the defense, but the offense feeds from it.

490
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: Special teams feed from it. And yesterday I thought they played,

491
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: in my opinion for the twenty eighteen season, their most

492
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: complete game across the board, where all three phases of

493
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: the game really contributed to the win. Joan, I don't know,

494
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: we talked about this the offensive line yesterday. We did

495
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: talk about it during the break. What's the best way

496
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: to defeat a bullet You go punch him right in

497
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: the mouth, and then offensive line or stay. Even without

498
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: Zack Fulton, that offensive line was really able to get

499
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 1: movement ran the ball. And I mentioned the stat line

500
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Speaker 1: for the game yesterday one sack, which they had with

501
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: eleven minutes left in the first quarter. So no sacks

502
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: from eleven minutes left in the game in the first

503
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: quarter through the rest of the game for that offensive line.

504
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: And that's with still two tackles that haven't played a

505
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: lot of football, with Lamb and Davinport, and then with

506
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: Greg Mant's in at guard. What do you think of

507
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: the overall big fellas yesterday doing what they do? Yeah,

508
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean they played an outstanding game yesterday. When you

509
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: when you look at it, you mentioned Zach being out

510
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: of yesterday's ball game, and then there's kind of a

511
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: pride factor that takes over. You kind of get sick

512
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: of having your butt qued out of meetings for busted

513
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: assignments and things of that sort, and then you see

514
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Speaker 1: your quarterback back there hiking and scratching each and every

515
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: week and all of a sudden, it's like, hey, this

516
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: is on us. We've got to up our play because

517
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: we've got a good one back there. Let's take care

518
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: of them. And they were able to do that along

519
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 1: with it. I think the best way to get an

520
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 1: offensive line kind of settled into a game is to

521
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 1: run the football where they can just fire off and

522
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: go get guys. And that's what they love to do.

523
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: And when you're able to do that early in a

524
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: football game, the past protection is a little bit easier

525
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: because now guys are just flying up the field from

526
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: the defensive line position to get sacks because they've got

527
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: to respect the running. That makes it a little bit

528
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: easier to pass protect. All right, Thursday night game, so

529
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: it's game week Thursday already. I hate this, by the way,

530
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: I'm just on the on the record. I can't stand

531
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: it when we talk about player safety and this is

532
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 1: the most ridiculous thing. I know. It's not going anywhere.

533
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: I also think when you look at it across the board,

534
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: people say, oh, the NFL numbers are down, Well, you're

535
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: over saturating this thing. You know, you get tired and

536
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: too much of something is uh, you know, you don't

537
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: want too much of something, and I think that's what's happening.

538
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: It's like you're playing every week, but it's here to stay,

539
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: so we gotta deal with it. But they don't tell me,

540
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: don't talk to me about player safety when you got

541
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: to turn right around and play what four days later? Well,

542
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: actually the numbers are up this year and Fox paid

543
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: three billion dollars for Thursday Night Football. It's a lot

544
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: of much because people do watch it. So so you're

545
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: saying that if I win Powerball or whatever it is

546
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: making millions, I could have almost gotten the Thursday. You

547
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: could put it on the John Harris Twitter account. John

548
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: Harris presents Thursday Football Twitter feed. The advertisements we would

549
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 1: have had would have been awesome. Yeah, they're fantastic. They'd

550
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: be great. You go to your local sub shop. I

551
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: don't know if that's going to fund the three billion anyway, Drey,

552
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: you got Thursday night football here. You got the Dolphins

553
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: and Frank Gore is playing for them, but Kenyan Drake's

554
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: playing pretty well for them as well. They're gonna try

555
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: to run the ball. This is no secret, but the

556
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 1: Texans have been doing pretty well against the run. Late

557
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: leave yeah. I mean, when you look at how they're built,

558
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: they've got a nice compliment in the two backs that

559
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 1: they have. Drake is an excellent receiver out of the backfield.

560
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: He's put on some side since his days at Alabama,

561
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's lost the step of speed.

562
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: So he's the speed and the more shifty back that

563
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: can hit the home run for you and Frank Gorz,

564
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: nobody's signing up to tackle that guy in the whole

565
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: one on one because because you feel it. He runs

566
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: with a low center of gravity, and even at this

567
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: stage in his career, he still packs a punch. He's

568
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: runs with power, So that's exactly what they want to do. Though,

569
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: Brock has played some pretty good football the last couple

570
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: of weeks. I think he's throwing five touchdown passes in

571
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: the last two weeks, and I think that's because he's

572
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: finally back with a head coach and Adam Gates, who

573
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: he had at Denver when he had most of his success.

574
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's all it takes is the right system, the

575
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: right coach, a guy that knows how to push the

576
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 1: buttons with a player, and it just makes sense for

577
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: that player, and therefore you get the best out of him.

578
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: I think that's the that's the case with Brock and

579
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: out of gates down at Miami this year. Trey, what

580
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: do you think of the Cowboys playing for a few

581
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: got to that one yesterday? Uh, you know I feel

582
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: about that when Johnny, I'm never putting the game on

583
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: a on a kicker, man. I mean, you know, love

584
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: the ones I played with and respect the hell out

585
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: of them, But if I can go win a game,

586
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna punch it in the end zone and we're

587
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: gonna go win the game. For get overtime. And when

588
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: you look at it, there's there's been two critical mistakes

589
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: in the Cowboys season. One when they came to NRG Stadium.

590
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: I thought that was a huge mistake puntingent on fourth

591
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: and one, and then yesterday playing for a field goal

592
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: as opposed to trying to get in the end zone,

593
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: especially with the time out at the at the very

594
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: end of the game. So I'm not about playing for

595
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: overtime and certainly not about putting the game on a

596
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: kicker shoulder. It was a bad call, but in terms

597
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: of the false start on the long snapper, but that's

598
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: how the cookie crumbles sometimes, and there's nothing you can

599
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: do about it. But you could have kept yourself out

600
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: of that position if you've just tried to score, or

601
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: maybe even even scored by trying. What about Rabel going

602
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: for two in London against the Chargers. That's another one

603
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: where I kicked the extra point and take my chance.

604
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: The only the only thing about that is if you

605
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: have a bunch of injuries that have occurred during a

606
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: game that you feel like, well, we may not get

607
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: this opportunity again to get down here. I understand it

608
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: from that standpoint, but that wasn't the case with Tennessee. Uh,

609
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: you've fought and scratched. Let's kick the extra point and

610
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: take our chances in overtime because at that point they

611
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: had the momentum in the football game. They they they

612
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: had the defense on its heels and reeling for a while.

613
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: Who knows what happens if you get wind up in

614
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: the coin toss and you get the ball first, it

615
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: could be over quickly. But that one I didn't understand either.

616
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: How do you think the players feel about facing Oswiler?

617
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Jonathan we asked him about it, but you

618
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: know he wasn't biting or anything. He said well, you know,

619
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: we face whoever we face, but here you have Brock

620
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: coming in and you know clearly it didn't work out

621
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: here with Brock, they did have some success. They want

622
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: a playoff game with him as the starting quarterback. He

623
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: was benched at one point. But your thoughts on playing

624
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: Brock for this team from their perspective, Well, I think

625
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: it means more to Brock than it does to the

626
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: current Texas roster. You've gotten it's been two years since

627
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: his time here, but he hasn't forgotten it because that's

628
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 1: kind of when the snowball started, when the Avalanche started

629
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: in his career and bouncing around from team the team

630
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: before making his way to some familiar face in Miami,

631
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: as I mentioned earlier. But they know and they've worked

632
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: against him in practice. They know his release and how

633
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: to time things. They're gonna get a couple in this

634
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: game Thursday night, There's no doubt in my mind, just

635
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: because of how he throws in how long that release is,

636
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: They're going to certainly have an opportunity to get their

637
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: hands on a couple on Thursday night. What do you

638
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: have going out of college football this weekend, Well, it'll

639
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: be an early morning flight on Friday to pro To

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Speaker 1: Salt Lake City and then a drive to Provo, Utah.

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Speaker 1: I'll see BYU take on Northern Illinois. I'm actually quite

642
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Speaker 1: excited to see that. I love going there for a

643
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Speaker 1: couple of reasons. It's probably the most scenic stadium that

644
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Speaker 1: I've ever been in, where it's just beautiful how it

645
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Speaker 1: sits in the mountains and things of that sort. And

646
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Speaker 1: then I get some of the best barbecue that maybe

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Speaker 1: on the face of the earth in Provo, Utah. Believe

648
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Speaker 1: it or not, Really, gentlemen there Bam Bams Bam Bams

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Speaker 1: Barbecue in Provo that hey, guys from Texas. He learned

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Speaker 1: his trade, he learned it here in Texas and then

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Speaker 1: took it and opened the spot in Provo Uta On.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you it is fingerlicking good. Okay, he's at

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Speaker 1: Texan and he's doing it somewhere else, that's fine, not

654
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Speaker 1: the other way around. You're not gonna be for somewhere

655
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Speaker 1: else unless you're from the south southeastern part of the

656
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Speaker 1: country in your barbecue's okay. But if you're from Texas

657
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: doing it somewhere else, that's cool. And his name is

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Speaker 1: Bam Bam sign me up all right. Coming up next,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to our buddy, Spencer Tillman. He had an

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Speaker 1: awesome game on Saturday night out in Washington State. He

661
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: got back on Sunday so he can see the Texans

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Speaker 1: report all about it on inside the Game on ktr K.

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Speaker 1: Will Spencer next right here in Texas Axis wants against

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Speaker 1: the snap airs an out downfield upside and nuke with

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Speaker 1: the one hand and grab down the sideline. He's out

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Speaker 1: of the mounds in Jacksonville Territory. That catch was absolutely unbelievable, unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: and it is our Choose Fun Moment of the Week,

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Speaker 1: That catch was fun. It was outstanding. I don't even

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Speaker 1: know the adject it was. It was just it was ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: But yet do we expect it from DeAndre Hopkins? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I gotta think that we do. When we see him

676
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: make a catch like that, we just go I mean,

677
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: I just sort of chuckle and go, that's hop, that's Hop.

678
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just he's unreal. He's so much fun

679
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: to watch, so much fun. Great throw, great protection, got

680
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Speaker 1: him loose just enough. And that's the thing. It's Jalen Rams.

681
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: You don't get much room. They found it out on

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Speaker 1: the touchdown, then linked up for the touchdown. Three catches,

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Speaker 1: all of them on Ramsey, all a man coverage, you're

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Speaker 1: holding penalty, and the Texas won the game twenty to seven.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon for DeAndre Hopkins and the Houston Texans. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get into our discussion with Spencer Tillman right here

687
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Speaker 1: on Texans All Access. I'm your host, John Harris, football

688
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 1: analyst and silent reporter. Glad you are with me tonight.

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Speaker 1: Spencer joined us to talk about what he saw from

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Speaker 1: this team, and we talked to initially about Shawn Watson

691
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Speaker 1: going above and beyond, what Drey Howe has been going through,

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Speaker 1: and what teammates mean to players as a second family.

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Speaker 1: Your thought on resiliency here, Beto and three. Watson playing hurt,

694
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Speaker 1: bunch of other guys playing hurt, Andre Howe doing what

695
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: he's doing. Gota guys play hurt in the NFL. But

696
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: it is notable what the Texans are going through here, Spencer,

697
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: these situations, guys, League bibliography and foot notes, and I've

698
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Speaker 1: heard everything you said about the inspiration that was provided

699
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Speaker 1: by Andrea's presence and what he went through. It was

700
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: just powerful. Again. You know, these score stories kind of

701
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: cut through our capacities athletes, to repress the reality. You mean,

702
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: on the back of those helmets, you know they've got

703
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: those little stickers on there, and they've had them when

704
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: I played using this helmet. The buck spear ram can

705
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Speaker 1: cause paralysis or death. And we know now more about

706
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Speaker 1: ct and other things like that. We know the inherent

707
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: risks when we go in there. But in order to

708
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Speaker 1: do this job effectively, you've got to repress all of that.

709
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: And the reason why I bring that up is because

710
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: you cannot repress the presence of a person who's going

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00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 1: through cancer and who's now an then remission, whose father

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Speaker 1: has passed away. That is a living epistle, That's what

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Speaker 1: That's what Andrea Howe became. He became the sixty seventh

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Speaker 1: book of the Bible. For many people who are believers,

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Speaker 1: who understand what capacity a witness or testimony can be

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00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: to inspire other people. That is one of the most

717
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: powerful motivators for a team, for an individual, for an organization,

718
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Speaker 1: that you can have somebody who's living, smiling, every day,

719
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Speaker 1: working going through so the minute you turn to look

720
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Speaker 1: sad at yourself and your situation, it's tough to do it.

721
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Speaker 1: And so for me personally, I was moved in a

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Speaker 1: manner that only one other situation moved me like this

723
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: and my personal life and by extension, it had the

724
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Speaker 1: same effect on me. And I lost my dad two

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Speaker 1: months ago, and Andrea's situation was so Germane to me

726
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Speaker 1: it had resonated. But to go do that having information,

727
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Speaker 1: you know, in the calendar year that you've got hotskins lymphoma,

728
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: that's a pretty powerful narrative for that locker room. So

729
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm moved by it. I probably could talk forever about that,

730
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Speaker 1: but I won't. I know, we're probably got a limited

731
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Speaker 1: time here, so but I'm just moved guys by the

732
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Speaker 1: whole situation. Well, Spencer, so sorry to hear about your father.

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Speaker 1: And it also kind of leads to this point too

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Speaker 1: about and Yeah, the NFL has a slogan that says

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Speaker 1: football as family, But when you were playing whether it's

736
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Speaker 1: in college or in pros, did you feel like your teammates,

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Speaker 1: the guys in the locker room were another family or

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Speaker 1: just an extension of the family that you already had. Yeah,

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00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: that's a great question. I think you do. And I

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Speaker 1: think what allows that to happen to charity experiences and

741
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Speaker 1: not just any experience, and not even the ones where

742
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Speaker 1: you sweat together and all that stuff sounds really good.

743
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Speaker 1: You sweat, you go to camp, that's part of what

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Speaker 1: that process is about. But when you have those quiet

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00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: moments where you can discuss the personal things that are

746
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: going on in your life, your personal struggles, your fears.

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Speaker 1: I remember just the other day talking to one of

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Speaker 1: the trainers at a game that I was doing, and

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Speaker 1: he happened to know a guy named Gordon Batty who

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Speaker 1: was one of the trainers for the Oilers, And how

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00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: I set out in that parking lot and convinced him

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00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: to leave Houston to go to Green Bay to take

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Speaker 1: on a job which would have paid him twice as

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Speaker 1: much as he's making. It was a whole narrative. I mean,

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00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 1: that was a pivotal moment. But every time we see

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00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: one another to this day, we both get emotional about

757
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: it because I now realized how scared he was to

758
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: make that decisions at that time, because he had never

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00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: worked for anybody else but Adams and the Orders. So

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00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: when we get together and we talk about those moments,

761
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: it's not just having spent time, it's having invested critical

762
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: decisions and moments, inflection points that shape who we are.

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00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: You can't get more deep than a father passing a

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Speaker 1: diagnosis with cancer coinciding with an outcome against a pretty

765
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: good defensive team when they don't have politics of permeating

766
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Speaker 1: their locker room. That was a very impressive performance yesterday, guys.

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00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: It was one of the most appropriate outcomes I think

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00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: for the times, and that's kind of a little bit luck,

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Speaker 1: but it's also by design as well, because it's a

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Speaker 1: powerful motivator, Spencer Tillman joining us Spencer the ability to

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Speaker 1: run the football. They got one hundred yards out of

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Speaker 1: Lamar Miller. They read it for one twenty eight, not

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Speaker 1: including Watson's thirteen yards, So they did get some things

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Speaker 1: done up front and that's going to help them going forward.

775
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: Miami not very good statistically against the run. So your

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00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: thoughts on that development, well, I think as Lamar Miller

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Speaker 1: in particularly goes back to his old team. They'll be here,

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00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: of course, but I think that's one area you have

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00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: to focus on. I think that's part of what matchup

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00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: football is about. I think the Texans did an excellent

781
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: job of that approach against the Jaguars. You know, look,

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Speaker 1: if the licks are for an ailing quarterback, is a

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00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: great running game, and I think for that day, that's

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Speaker 1: what we had. I think Man's did a fantastic job upfront.

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00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: Integrating the tight ends to the blocking scheme on his

786
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: touchdown was outstanding. Even though he got a slip on

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00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: the back side that opened up you know, that play

788
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: could have been shut down in the backfield. But the

789
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: bottom line is you had some opportunities there to do

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00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: some really cool things and you did because the play

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00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: design want to. And I will say this, I don't

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Speaker 1: call out players name. I always critique performance, not players

793
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: so much. But you can tell the Jaguars wanted note

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00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: part of that power running game in the goal line situation,

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00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: and that was a safety in particular. Miles Jack was

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00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: back there as well, but there was a safety in

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Speaker 1: particular who This was not the line to game that

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00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: we're talking about here. This was the goal line who

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00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: basically declined an opportunity to pop Lamar Miller in the

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Speaker 1: chops and he just let him waltz in. And I

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00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: was when I saw it, I kind of shuddered a

802
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: little bit, and I said, hey, man, you know, the

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00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: film don't lie. So when you look at things like that, guys,

804
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: it tells you, first of all, you had the right

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00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: game plan and clearly against the right individual, And it

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00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: just made sense. The shan got out of there with

807
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: out in the additional injury to that partially collapsed along.

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00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: It was just a great overall game plan and strategy.

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00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: Defense did their job down the lake protecting the lead.

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Speaker 1: It was a picture in how to win on the road. Hey,

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Speaker 1: were you surprised that Barrels got pulled when he did?

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Speaker 1: And be what do you think that Jaguars do now

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00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: with their quarterback situation? Well, I think I was not

814
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: surprised because I think what happens is there's some distance

815
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Speaker 1: between coaches and players when they start to lose trust.

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Speaker 1: And the only way you know that losing trust is

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Speaker 1: by what they do. We talk about core values being

818
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: what you do, not what you say. When a person

819
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Speaker 1: pulls you from a game. They've lost trust. It's not

820
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: about being a spark if it's about as crazy as

821
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: that locker room is and bizarre behavior certain people in

822
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: mission critical positions like cornerback display recently on that team.

823
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: You're looking for solutions, you're not. You're not looking to

824
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: tweak or shape anything. They've got structural problems with that

825
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: whole organism, so there's nothing left to do but to

826
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: make a radical shift. And I don't think you know

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Speaker 1: what they did was the answer, but that answer isn't

828
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: on their roster right now. So they've got bigger issues

829
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: relative to their overall organization. So that's a problem for them.

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Speaker 1: What do you have in college football this week's bet, sir, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, we can't beat what we've had. The last

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Speaker 1: two weeks. Guys, we had you know, I was stayed

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00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: in West Virginia before West then you got knocked off

834
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Speaker 1: from the number sixth perch, and in this past weekend

835
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Speaker 1: we had another fantastic outcome. It was just I haven't

836
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: had back to back weeks where we had, you know,

837
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: crowd spill out into the field. It was absolutely fascinating. Guy.

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00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: So this week we got Washington and Cal Washington trying

839
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Speaker 1: to get back into things, and we'll head out to

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Speaker 1: Berkeley and have a little pile. Oh, that'll be nice.

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00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: That'll get weird out in Berkeley. Oh, there's no question

842
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: it's getting weird. Cal Washington That should be a good

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00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: football game. That'll be a really good football game. Washington

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00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: State game the other night, Washington State was dominant, but

845
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: man college game. They went out there whole only smokes.

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Speaker 1: That was one of the best college game days I've

847
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: ever seen. It was absolutely amazing to go see. That

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00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: was really really fun to see. A big thanks to Spencer,

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Speaker 1: to Andre ware through of course Mark vander Meer, to

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Speaker 1: you guys for listening. You guys are the absolute best.

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Speaker 1: You mean so much. To Bill Obron and Jemie not

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Speaker 1: Clowney who joined me after the game. This team is

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Speaker 1: four and three four weeks ago. You didn't think that

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Speaker 1: was possible. Not a lot of people thought that was possible.

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Speaker 1: Would like to be five and three after Thursday night

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Speaker 1: and get the little mini by before you go to

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Speaker 1: Denver for the only game in twenty four days before

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Speaker 1: you start the last seven games of the year. They

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Speaker 1: got an opportunity to do something really special, especially Thursday

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Speaker 1: night to get the five in three, which would be

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Speaker 1: amazing considering where they started. Looking forward to that, looking

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Speaker 1: forward to seeing you, thank you again. We'll see it

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Speaker 1: in everybody and has always go Texans,