1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: Hi, Bob Guinea, it's been a while. 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 3: I know I've missed you. 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: You've been everywhere, family stuff, derby, you know, all the 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: fun things. I want to hear all about it. But 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: we do have our guest in the waiting room. 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 3: I know. 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm very excited, very excited. I was going to try 9 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: and put on my accent so that he feels comfortable. 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna be like, he am night. But then 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: I thought that probably wouldn't work and I'd probably just 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: piss him off. 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 3: So I shouldn't try it. 14 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: But if I go to it at any point in 15 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: time in the conversation, it's just a nervous reflex, and 16 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, make sure you correct me at any time. 17 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: Actually, I wonder how many times people do that to 18 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: people with accents, you know, throughout the day, if. 19 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: You know, because it's the first place I go. 20 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll see my friends from Australia and I'll 21 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: be like, hello, shrimp on the barbie, and I don't 22 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: want my hands do this. 23 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: My arms go like this when I do. It just 24 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: makes zero sense. I don't know, kangaroo. 25 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: And now you know, and now you have our friend 26 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: who's coming in from London, and I'll be like, you 27 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: care for a spot and he's really what, I don't 28 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: even know why you're saying that. 29 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: What did they say? Look, look Dad, big. 30 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Ben Big then Parliament, I can't get left. 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: We should throw out all of our jokes. 32 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask him about I'm excited to talk about 33 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: Harry and Meghan with him so many. 34 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure he wants to talk all about it. 35 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: Because you know, he knows these things. Matt knows, he. 36 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: Knows them, he knows, he knows them personally, he knows 37 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: everyone in England. 38 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: He's likening them in the castle for a while. 39 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hi, Matt, Matt Grant, everybody, Matt Grant is joining us. 40 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: He's connecting to audio as we speak, so give him 41 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: a hot second. 42 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: Hey guys, Hey, how are you many? Good? 43 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: Good? 44 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 4: Nice to see you boy. 45 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: Pleasure you are. 46 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: You're being so efficient with your time and doing this 47 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: interview in a car. You're just like me. 48 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 4: I am. 49 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 5: I had to I had to take a friend to 50 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 5: the airport and the traffic the whole place was a 51 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 5: bit gridlocked, and there was a police car chase or. 52 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: Something going on. It was like Manhattan yesterday. 53 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, just like Harry and may. 54 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: See I told you that's just that's just like Harry. 55 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 4: Oh please please. 56 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 5: I thought Bob I liked you, But now I'm not 57 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 5: so sure as no time for either of those two. 58 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: Really, do you think it's because you are from England 59 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: and so you're even more like just annoyed or I. 60 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 5: Think I think I think probably it comes from the 61 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 5: fact that I think they were just both very disrespectful 62 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 5: to two very elderly people right at the end of 63 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 5: their lives. And you know that that Oprah Winfrey interview 64 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 5: was you know, they basically said that the royal family 65 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 5: were racist with no evidence, and and that was so 66 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 5: damaging and it was embarrassing for the country as well, 67 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 5: because you know, Britain is a progressive place. It's not 68 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 5: perfect by any means, and we've still got a long 69 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 5: way to go on these areas as the US has, 70 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 5: you know, but compared to a lot of countries in 71 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 5: the world, I think the UK and the US pretty 72 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 5: you know, at least trying to get there. 73 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, anyway, I'm I'm with Matt on that one. 74 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: I have a bad taste in my mouth for those 75 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: two because I feel like it has been a lot 76 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: of like, you know, just you can say anything you 77 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: want these days, and everyone just assumes it's true. 78 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: And it's like the think about the royal. 79 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: Family is they're kind of like, well, you know, we're 80 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: not gonna we're not going to get in in the 81 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: in the in the mund with the pigs. 82 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 4: Right. 83 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of like the mindset you have to say 84 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: that that's that's just a saying I'm not doing why 85 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: that I think that anyone's a pig. But I mean 86 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: I get it from the standpoint of you know, it 87 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: is true. You're absolutely right. There's been a lot of 88 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: dirty laundry out there and no validation of it, you know. 89 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I wonder if I kind of step back now, 90 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 5: you know, as being the kind of the kind of 91 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 5: the Queen of us TV, I wonder, you know, if 92 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 5: that has if maybe there's been a bit of a 93 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 5: shift in change on how they do these things moving forwards, 94 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 5: because I think that didn't particularly reflect well on her either. 95 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 5: I don't know what you guys think. But anyway, with 96 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 5: regards to with regards to to you guys, how are 97 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 5: you both? 98 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: Thank you Matt. Thank you nice much change for us. 99 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. 100 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: I actually don't have any taste in my mouth about them. 101 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 2: I really don't even follow it. So thanks for the little, 102 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: the little information gathering this morning. But we we really 103 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: are here to talk to you, like all about you 104 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: and life, how it's been after the Bachelor, even like 105 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: how you got into it. Can you tell us a 106 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: little bit about how you actually got on the show, 107 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: that whole process? 108 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, sure, a Kain, and before I kick off on that, Trista, 109 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 5: congratulations on twenty years. 110 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 4: Of successful marriage. An incredible achievement. 111 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: Thank you. 112 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 4: I know it's a while back, but it was this year, right, I. 113 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: Think twenty years will be in December? 114 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, thank you, thank you. Check me out my 115 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 5: Bachelor calendar. 116 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: You know, you know all the things. 117 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 5: So where do you want to start? So from the 118 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 5: get go? Right, so get go. 119 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: Just tell us how you got into the show. Were 120 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 2: you watching before? Did someone nominate you? How did you 121 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 2: get on the show? 122 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 4: No, so it didn't show in the UK. 123 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 5: So I'm working in finance in London and didn't know 124 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 5: anything about The Bachelor. I think I was twenty seven 125 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 5: and this rather attractive slightly few years older. But you know, 126 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 5: when you're when you're twenty eight, you know, five years 127 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 5: is is more like, you know, ten years. 128 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 4: When you're a bit further down the road. I don't know. 129 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 4: I'm digging a hole already. Anyway, can we just rewind that? 130 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 5: So very a very attractive American lady age is relevant, 131 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 5: came up to me and said, have you heard of 132 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 5: a show called The Bachelor? And I was like, no, no, 133 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 5: And then she said, it's this, this is this big 134 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 5: show in the US. And obviously I knew what a 135 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 5: bit like you guys would know what BBC is, I 136 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 5: knew what ABCC was, so I knew it was, you know, 137 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 5: I knew it was something big. And anyway, she gave 138 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 5: her card. Then I remember getting home that night, so 139 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 5: it was about kind of one am. I think it 140 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 5: was a Saturday night. We've been out with friends and 141 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 5: I'd had a few, a few pine you know. 142 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 4: A few pints, yeah, maybe five, Maybe I had a 143 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 4: good I was I was marry. 144 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 5: I was married, but still but not you know, not 145 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 5: to the point where I don't remember this. 146 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: This is all vivid. 147 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 5: So and I'm sitting there, you know, going on Google 148 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 5: in my apartment and I just went nowhere, you know, 149 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 5: because I'd never heard of the Bachelor, and I realized 150 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 5: that this this was, this was a big deal, this 151 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 5: was this was So I'm just getting on my phone, 152 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 5: just texting. I think we didn't have whatsappen back then, right, 153 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 5: So it was it was just SMS ing and my 154 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 5: friend's going, you wouldn't believe it, this this is And 155 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 5: and of course a lot of my friends didn't believe it. 156 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: They thought I was whinding them up. 157 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 5: A few of them, I think, you know, I've got 158 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 5: a few friends that had lived in the States are 159 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 5: kind of knew actually that it was a big deal. 160 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, quite a few people didn't believe me. 161 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 5: So anyway, the next thing I know, I'm on a 162 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 5: flight out to LA to meet with I think Flices 163 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 5: first of all. 164 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: And what year was it. 165 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: It was two thousand and eight. 166 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Brooke cars in and all of them at that time, 167 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: I bet. 168 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 4: You, Yeah it was Brook. Yeah, yeah, it was Brooke. 169 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 5: And and I had archetypal British teeth at this point. 170 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 5: And I think the first thing they did was like, Matt, 171 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 5: we really like you much, Matt, Matt, we really like you, 172 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 5: but you're gonna. 173 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 4: Have to get your teeth done. 174 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 5: And I was like, if you pay for it, if 175 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 5: you pay for it's still let's still here. 176 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: Both field to this day, perfect construction. I bet you 177 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: went to doctor Dormann. 178 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh Billy boy. 179 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 3: Billy Doan. 180 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, did he do yours as well? 181 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: Well? 182 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: He he brought me in. I actually didn't meet him 183 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: until after the Bachelor. But it was funny because I 184 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: remember I was going to him as my dentist and 185 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: he would tell you. He's like, and this is before 186 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: you and I had met Matt, but he was like, 187 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: I used to did the best's teeth. 188 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: Who was just in here? And I'm like, oh, I'm 189 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: not kidding, you know. 190 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: And it was long after the Bachelor for me because 191 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: I was a bachelor in two thousand and three, So 192 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: but yeah, I thought it was It was really funny. 193 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 3: I remember the story. 194 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 4: That is good guy. 195 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: I wonder how many bachelors he's done or bachelorettes. He's 196 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: the he's the dentist to the to the Bachelor, to Bachelor. 197 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 5: Nation, Bacheloration beyond there. I remember Paul Abdoll was in 198 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 5: the in the waiting room when I'm saying, and you know, 199 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 5: it's a horrible, horrible, horrible procedure. So I was a 200 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 5: little nervous before and then I'm just like it was 201 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 5: just one of those many very cool, very funny slash 202 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 5: slightly surreal la moments. 203 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 4: You know. 204 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 5: I lived out there for yeah, for five years in total, 205 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 5: and some of the stories still blow my mind, you 206 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 5: know when I you know, just just fun stuff like that. 207 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 5: You just you know, you'll come up and someone will 208 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 5: say you see your real teeth or whatever, and then 209 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 5: you start telling them and then you realize you remember, 210 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 5: like I just did there with Bob, like I was 211 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 5: in the weighting room with Paul Abdell. You know, it's 212 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 5: you couldn't make it up, you know, It's just all 213 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 5: those fun little stories of well being at CEA for 214 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 5: a meeting and realizing I'm in a in a lift 215 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 5: with Tom Cruise, you know, who's about five foot about 216 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 5: five foot four, and there's me at six five. 217 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 3: You know, you're tired than I am, so that I 218 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: had to be quite at the moment. 219 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, So fun stuff like that. 220 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, lots of lots of happy memories, lots 221 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 5: of happy memories, and you know, as you know, with 222 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 5: Bob saying to you know, just thinking of that two 223 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 5: thousand and three, I mean twenty years. Yeah, it's just 224 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 5: time flies, you know, it's two thousand and eight and 225 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 5: it's I don't know about you guys, if you had 226 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 5: that moment on the tenth year, if it kind of 227 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 5: hit you when ten years had been up, you know, 228 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 5: it was like that wow factor because that just went 229 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 5: so quick, and then who knows, I'm sure the next 230 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 5: ten were really quick as well for you as well. 231 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's definitely gone by though, you're not kidding. 232 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 5: So that's how I got found, Yeah, a random a 233 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 5: random scout in London. 234 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: So they did you come in? They do to the 235 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: teeth thing. And then how soon after that are you filming? 236 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, is it pretty quickly after that that you're 237 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: already on set and going for it. 238 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 239 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was of course, the visa issue was a 240 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 5: problem because I didn't have a US social because I 241 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 5: was you know, it wasn't like I was sort of 242 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 5: half American and could kind of hide it and really 243 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 5: secretly I had a social life. I was a complete foreigner, 244 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 5: So there was a little it was quite stressful because 245 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 5: it was rushed. I think within three months of me 246 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 5: being found, we were filming and so there was if 247 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 5: we do the mac Grand Bachelor checklist right, it was 248 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 5: teeth visa and then loosing weight. 249 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: The gym. 250 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 5: So I don't know which short it was. It was 251 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 5: teeth waight visa. I think probably the visa was the 252 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 5: most scary thing. You know, there's no VIP line in 253 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 5: that embassy is any now? I'm sure I'm sure the 254 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 5: real gps get people queuing up for them. But anyway, 255 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 5: it was, it was all good. 256 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: Were you concerned? 257 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: I remember when they asked me to be the Bachelor, 258 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: and even though it was so early on in the 259 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: in the show, but I remember being really nervous, like 260 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: you just said, of oh god, I hope I help 261 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: people even tune into this thing. 262 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: You know, were you were you feeling that kind of pressure? 263 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 5: Oh I had imposter syndrome all the way through it 264 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 5: and probably afterwards, to be honest with you, yeah, you know, 265 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 5: really I did feel like you know, there was there 266 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 5: was lots of you know, I was I was young. 267 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 5: I was twenty seven when I was doing all that, 268 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 5: and and you. 269 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 4: Know, I Trista. 270 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 5: I still wantestly think men, you know, are a bit 271 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 5: slower on the whole development, you know, building, maybe confident. 272 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 5: I don't want to stereotype because I've already put up 273 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 5: in it before. But but you know, I were young 274 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 5: twenty seven being made, being made to be an old 275 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 5: twenty seven, you know, in the way that I wasn't 276 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 5: really like some sort of global financier, you know, I was. 277 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 4: I had a decent job, but I wasn't. 278 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 5: I wasn't you know, like some you know, doing massive. 279 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: Deals with the Saudi oil and things like that. I 280 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 4: was so so yeah. 281 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 5: So there's this combination of kind of you know, pride 282 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 5: because I was proud to have being picked, excitement, especially 283 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 5: going to you know, a new country. Although I'd been 284 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 5: to the US quite a few times and had family 285 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 5: out out in the US, it was still a foreign country, right, right, 286 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 5: So there's this mixture of pride, excitement and in trepidation 287 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 5: and then. 288 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 4: Fear at times. 289 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but definitely definitely got a few imposter moments 290 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 5: where I was like, and I remember my mum, who 291 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 5: was very matter of fact. My mom was like, but 292 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 5: you're not You're not a global financier, And. 293 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: Mum, don't tell anyone this was. 294 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 5: When we were This was when we were filming. This 295 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 5: is when we were filming at the at that you know, 296 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 5: the fake home. I don't know if you guys, if 297 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 5: they really went back to your houses or if they 298 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 5: went to we. 299 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 4: Had a fake in London. 300 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: Okay, oh interesting, it was just your fake house, but 301 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: you lived somewhere else. 302 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, And they rented this place for a huge amount 303 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 5: of money. And my six foot five, two hundred and 304 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 5: sixty pounds as soon as it sat down on a 305 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty year old chair, antique broke it. 306 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 4: Oh. 307 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 5: So that was the first and the owner, the owners 308 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 5: in the background behind the door going what was that? 309 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 5: This is a good start, and then yes, so shortly 310 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 5: after that was mum basically off camera but with all 311 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 5: the sound equipment on going. But you're not a global financier, 312 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 5: you're not a multimillionaire, Matthew, some of. 313 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: My mom to bring you down to the to earth. 314 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, way to go. 315 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 3: Thanks, How are you? 316 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: How are your home? How are your home? Time? 317 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 5: Because in a way it was easier for me because 318 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 5: it was because it was a fake house. I could yeah, 319 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 5: you know, I literally could break the furniture because it 320 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 5: didn't matter. But how was it actually letting letting these 321 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 5: people into your into your kind of most intimate sphere. 322 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 4: How was that? 323 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't our homes, Like so the house that 324 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: we the both of us, the houses that we used 325 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: for the show, obviously they were just rented same by production. 326 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: So even though I was living there, it definitely was 327 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: not my home, Like it was my home base for 328 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 2: the show, but not anything that I really felt like 329 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: I would that people were invading, if you will, I 330 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: kind of felt like I was invading it, uh, you know, 331 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: kind of to turn the two, because it wasn't my home. 332 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 2: I was sleeping in someone someone else's bed, Like we 333 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: were taking over this entire house, and I think the 334 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: people actually just let us use it. They got a 335 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: lot of money for it, and then we were out. 336 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's really interesting that you say that. You 337 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: think like maybe it felt like we were being invaded, 338 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: But I didn't feel like that, did you, Bob? 339 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you know, the when we did, like the 340 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: package that they put together right for the Bachelorette and everything, 341 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: and then when they do like, yeah, the b roll 342 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: of here's why we chose this guy, you know, they 343 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: did come to they came to my house for that 344 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: to do that, and and that was kind of cool. 345 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: But I mean, I, you know, I much like Matt, 346 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: I was not a global financia, so I was, you know, 347 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: I was like this guy who just had a cool 348 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: house and lived by myself. 349 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: So I got, you know, just I don't know, it 350 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: was crazy. 351 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: And then they did come to my family's lake house 352 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: when we did the uh, when we did the like 353 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: the at home dates. But yeah, when we actually filmed 354 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: the show itself, I was in a mens that that 355 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: would be a mansion at best. 356 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: I think it was a production house. 357 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: I'd lay in bed at night and I'd look up 358 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: and there's like scaffolding and lights, and I'm just like, yeah, 359 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: there's no way that there's not cameras. Like in my mind, 360 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: I was constantly thinking, yeah, you know. In fact, I 361 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 1: don't know if you remember Trista, but Andrew Firestone has 362 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 1: gone on record with a with a really funny thing 363 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: where he would go sleep in the closet of them 364 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: of the house that he because he and I had 365 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: the same house that we stayed in, because he was 366 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: so stressed out. 367 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 3: Because it just he couldn't sleep in the place. You know. 368 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 4: He was literally coming out close it. 369 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he really was. 370 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: He said, his mattress and in the closet with his 371 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: clothes are all there, and he would just lay down 372 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: in there because it was like the other room was 373 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: just too wide open and just too many, you know. 374 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: I I finally got to the point in that in 375 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: that house. I think I told you this, Trista, but 376 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: I went everywhere. I went underneath. They had like a 377 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: kind of like a basement. I found the production place 378 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: because they would leave me alone there for hours. Vision really, Oh, 379 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: I got in love that, yeah, because I was like, 380 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: I got to discover what's going on around here, because 381 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: this place is stressing me out. 382 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 4: That was off limits that place, you know, I saw 383 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 4: the door just opened. 384 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: It was like slap shop. 385 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 5: These people just like tapping away your monitors and goods. 386 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 3: What are they doing? 387 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 4: It was weird to the Jim Carrey movie. 388 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. 389 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, closest to the treatment show. 390 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: We got, oh my gosh, so so Matt you're you're 391 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: you're the Bachelor now and you got the limos pulling up. 392 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean, had you had much experience with getting to 393 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: know American women? 394 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 3: At that point or was this the first. 395 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: Time that you just and what was it like, Like 396 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: was there a difference between the you know, the women 397 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: that you had dated uh in in London or the 398 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: women that you're meeting that night on the show. 399 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 4: I think I think that. 400 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 5: In retrospect, to answer your first question, No, I hadn't 401 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 5: really dated any America girls before this show. I think 402 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 5: the first thing that was really very striking was just 403 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 5: how beautiful these these these women were. You know, when 404 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 5: when each lady came up and you know, I don't 405 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 5: want to say that British women are less beautiful than 406 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 5: American or whatever, but but they're different and uh and 407 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 5: and so that that was that was something. And then 408 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 5: obviously the accents and. 409 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, I know it was I mean it was. 410 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 5: It all happened so quickly, Bob, the whole, the whole, 411 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 5: that whole experience. You know, before you know it, you know, 412 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 5: you're on you know the fancy sweet stage. You know 413 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 5: you're you're right at the end of the filming element, 414 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 5: and you just think, wow, that's just gone. So that 415 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 5: that time went so quickly, right, But yeah, no, so 416 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 5: so I hadn't dated any American women before and then 417 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 5: when I did start to on that show, I liked 418 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 5: it very much. 419 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: Let's just leave it at that. Oh, I love the 420 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 2: fact that you called it a fancy sweet, not a 421 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: fantasy suite, A fancy sweet. Is that what you said? 422 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 4: That sounds a bit like what's his name, the Mike 423 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 4: Meyer's character? 424 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, Mike. 425 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 4: Anyway, you know who I mean. I'm showing my age, 426 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 4: But yes, I. 427 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: Love let's call it. 428 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 3: Let's call it the fantasy fancy sweet. 429 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: That's actually a nicer way to think of it. 430 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: It is amazing. Okay. I would love to hear about 431 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 2: the engagement. We know that you were engaged to Shane. 432 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: It's Shane, right. 433 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 3: Not just sh Shane, Okay. 434 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 2: Shane Shane Lamas. Yeah, so I would love to hear 435 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: kind of what happened with you guys. You know, obviously 436 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: you're caught up in the moment, not necessarily that it's 437 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: not real. You know, obviously, I feel like everything is real, 438 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: Like your emotions are all on the show, is what 439 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: I tell everyone. It's not. Your emotions are real. So 440 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: you're kind of caught up in it and you're feeling 441 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: all the feels and you get engaged and then tell 442 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: us kind of what happened afterwards. 443 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 5: I still to this day don't really know what happened there. 444 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 5: I would say I was. I think that maybe coming 445 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 5: from a foreign country, maybe going through all the pressure 446 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 5: that we've all spoken about, you know, a bit of 447 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 5: the imposter stuff. Can I do this the fear, the fun, 448 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 5: but also doing it in a foreign country without your 449 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 5: support mechanism around you, with a time zone that made 450 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 5: it harder to communicate than your loved ones. 451 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 4: The crew were great, they really were. I made some 452 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 4: good friends, but yeah, there were times when, especially. 453 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 5: Towards the end of filming, where I really did feel 454 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 5: on my own and I didn't make the best decisions. 455 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 5: But also at that age as well, you know, as 456 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 5: I said earlier, I really feel looking back that I 457 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 5: was a young twenty seven. 458 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 459 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can only know that from hindsight, you know. 460 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: I feel like in the moment, you feel like, oh, yeah, 461 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: I'm mature. 462 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: I'm ready, I got this question. 463 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, But I think hindsight shows you you know 464 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: a lot more than we know in the moment. 465 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 5: So so yeah, it didn't really last very long afterwards 466 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 5: with Shane because it just wasn't really there in the 467 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 5: first place. And you know, I look back, you know, 468 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 5: all these years later, and you know, I don't I 469 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 5: don't think I don't regret anything in life. But yeah, 470 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 5: it was you know, it was challenging towards the end, 471 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 5: but but yet just a great, overall, great experience. 472 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 3: Oh that's great. Yeah, I always look back at it 473 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 3: the same way. 474 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: I didn't end in an engagement or you know, ultimately 475 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: marriage or anything of that night nature either. But I 476 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: was saying to Trista when we kind of lost the 477 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: connection with you for a minute. I remember watching your 478 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: season and I primarily watched the tail end of it 479 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: and thinking that, you know, you just came off as 480 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: such a nice guy like you just came off with 481 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: as this guy that was you know, it was almost 482 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: like a fish out of water because you were from 483 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: another country and you were, you know, kind of inundated 484 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: with all this stuff, you know, all this American stuff 485 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: being thrown at you so much, and but you always 486 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: handled it, I thought, very gracefully. And I don't know 487 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: if you remember this, but we ran into each other 488 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: and Marina del Rey one day, both walking our dogs, 489 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: and yeah, I was and I remember I was like, hey, 490 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: you're the Bachelor, You're Matt Grant, and you're like, yeah, 491 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: how are I? 492 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: And like, you don't know me. 493 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: I like, but I was the Bacheler once too, and 494 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: I remember talking to you that day and ever since that, 495 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: I've always told everybody that, you know, I just thought 496 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: you were such a humble and nice guy. Especially you 497 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: were very h I mean, I don't think you had 498 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: been too far removed from the Bachelor at that point, 499 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: maybe a year or two when we crossed paths, and 500 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, you just seem like such a 501 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: nice guy and go through an experience like that internationally, 502 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: I can only imagine how it might have messed with you. 503 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, it was. 504 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 5: It was humbling afterwards as well, because I didn't have 505 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 5: you know, I wanted to capitalize from a selfish point 506 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 5: of view, I wanted to capitalize financially on on the 507 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 5: on this you know, magnificent opportunity given to me. And 508 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 5: I didn't have a visa so you know, work visa, 509 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 5: so I had to go and do that. And you know, 510 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 5: there were many times when it was, you know, it 511 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 5: was it was challenging to get that visa, and eventually 512 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 5: I you know, I wrote a show and sold it 513 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 5: to Warner Brothers. 514 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 4: And I'm really proud of. 515 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 5: How I dealt with that on my own out there, 516 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 5: just networking, and you know, and and and finally people going, look, 517 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 5: I've got a show, idea, let's make the show. And 518 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 5: you know, getting that contract from Warner Brothers, from from Walper, 519 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 5: it was really cool. 520 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: What was the show? 521 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 4: It was called Pimp My Bride. 522 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: Pimps tell us about it please. 523 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 4: It never got made. 524 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 5: It never got made obviously, but it got me a contract, 525 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 5: right and got me my own one. So no, I 526 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 5: have such fond memories of my time in the US. 527 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 5: And it was the one, you know, the the the 528 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 5: actors visa that I had for foreigners aliens of extraordinary talent. 529 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 3: Oh nice. 530 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 4: It was. 531 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 5: It was coming up for a mule and I thought, hey, 532 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 5: you know, I just made a bud like TV commercial, 533 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 5: which was kind of it was either going to go 534 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 5: for the Super Bowl or or what it was. You know, 535 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 5: they make two commercials Budweiser for each Super Bowl and 536 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 5: then they pick at the last minute which one was 537 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 5: going to be. So it was it was a high 538 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 5: I played kind of this food chef guy, you know, 539 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 5: this ponty British kind of Hello. My name is Nigel, 540 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 5: chef dude on this TV commercial anyway, paid out, paid 541 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 5: out a chunk of money, and I bought this old 542 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 5: jag and anyway, and I just I was drumming down 543 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 5: in Santa Monica. Do you guys know Montana Avenue in 544 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 5: Santa Monica, of course from my my favorite right just 545 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 5: coming out of that popped into the city bank and 546 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 5: I was just driving down and you've got the Pacific 547 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 5: ahead of you in the palm trees either side. It's 548 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 5: kind of that archetypal Californian sunset, right, yeah. And I'm sure, 549 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 5: I'm sure the listeners can kind of picture it. And 550 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 5: I think maybe you can just maybe see a little 551 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 5: bit of Kathleen in the background. I don't know, but 552 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 5: I just looked in the mirror and I just went, 553 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 5: you lucky. 554 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 4: Get you. 555 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 5: You know, you've had five amazing years, and I thought, 556 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 5: you know, and I just went, it's never going to 557 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 5: get better than. 558 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: This, yeah, yeah, And it has. 559 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it has, just just a different chapter. Right, 560 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 4: that was the end. 561 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 5: That was the end of That was the end of 562 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 5: that chapter. And i'd you know, I'd gone and got 563 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 5: that visa on my own. I'd gone and sort of 564 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 5: got stable on my own in California, found work from 565 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 5: somewhere to live, built a friendship circle, and had you know, 566 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 5: those great years, and so I didn't want to leave, 567 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 5: but I kind of felt like I wanted to leave 568 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 5: l R l A on a on a high, because 569 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 5: so many people leave it on a loane. 570 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 3: True, you are speaking the truth right there. I mean 571 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 3: that you went out on your own terms. 572 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 4: You know. 573 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: That's that's the dream, I think, to be able to 574 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: go out on your own terms. So where do you 575 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: live now? And what's going on now in your life? 576 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 4: So? 577 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 5: So I live in Cambridge, which I'm sure you guys 578 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 5: have heard of. It's just north of London. I'm married 579 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 5: to an amazing woman called Becks and we've been married 580 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 5: now for six years and that's just flown by. 581 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 4: That's flown flown by. 582 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 5: And I have a daughter from a previous relationship, Clementine. 583 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: I love that Clementine. God's a gorgeous. 584 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: Does she live there too? 585 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 4: She does? Yeah, that's like a book. 586 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 2: I wish I would have heard about this like ten 587 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 2: years ago, and I would have written a children's book 588 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: Clementine and Cambridge, you know. 589 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 3: So cute. 590 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, sometimes I say Clementine sometimes as I say 591 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 5: it like in the French. 592 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: But do you speak French too? 593 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 5: No, not really no, oh but no, so so yes. 594 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 5: And then you know it's that it's getting into your 595 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 5: forties and then I'm forty three this year and it's 596 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 5: like wow, and you know, just trying to keep positive 597 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 5: and keep healthy and fit and grow, you know, growing 598 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 5: old gracefully. 599 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 3: That's all we can do. 600 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 4: That. 601 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: Well, we gotta try, that's right. 602 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 4: Rob and I have still got our hair. 603 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: We do, buddy, we still got it. I mean, come on, 604 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: how lucky are we? I mean I couldn't go that 605 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: mustache of my life dependent on it, though I can't 606 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: go the same in my life. 607 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: I was actually going to say that compared to the 608 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 2: Bachelorettes before the show, like you were saying that teeth 609 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: and go into the gym. At least you guys didn't 610 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: have to worry about hair, because they literally put fake 611 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: hair on me, you know where you get extensions. At 612 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: least you didn't have to worry about that. And now 613 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: you can say that it's still your own. 614 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 3: That's true. 615 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: Heads of hair, boys. 616 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 5: Was the hair extensions part one of the most difficult 617 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 5: elements of kind of the that role, Trista. 618 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: I mean I don't definitely not one of the most difficult, 619 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: but kind of the most interesting for me, just because 620 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: I feel like, why don't you just go on there 621 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 2: and be yourself? You know, I wish that more these 622 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: days that I you know, I think I had fake nails, 623 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: I had fake hair. I you know, all women wear 624 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: tons of makeup and push up bras and you know, 625 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: all the things. So not to say that I'm not 626 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: open to having a little botox here there and filler 627 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: and you know whatever, but you know, I just I 628 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: wish that our culture just was more accepting of all 629 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: different kinds of people. However, you look, we love you, you know. 630 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope I'm hoping that's changing. I really am. 631 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 5: And also on on the on the male side as well, 632 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 5: that you know, men don't have to have six packs, 633 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 5: and I mean I certainly didn't. 634 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 3: I remember, yeah, neither. 635 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 4: I remember when they. 636 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 5: Were filming a topless bit and I could just see 637 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 5: one of the camera guy like, oh god, I mean 638 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 5: I thought they said that for his gym, So I 639 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 5: was no, I was no Brad Womack. I didn't have 640 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 5: the Brad Womack body. 641 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 3: No, not too many people did. 642 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: I didn't have the Ryan Sutter body on just the 643 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: season as a bachelor that are at That's why I 644 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: got kicked in the curb. 645 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he's so. But you know it's funny. 646 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: I will tell you I'm made the six pack go 647 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: out of style a few years previous for you, so 648 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: set this, I set the pace for you. 649 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: But I will tell you this. Yeah, I. 650 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: Still say to this day because Ryan and I were 651 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: kind of roommates on Test this season, and I would 652 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: always be like, I would marry this. 653 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: Guy, Like I'm honestly, you know, this guy is amazing. 654 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 4: Now that would make for an interesting batchelor, would I. 655 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: Think that would be on a different, different network and 656 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 3: more than likely. 657 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, But I mean, I just loved having you on, buddy, 658 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, from the standpoint of 659 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: what you've been able to do, I think it's been great. 660 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 3: So congratulations and thanks for being a part. 661 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 4: Of it with us. 662 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 5: And it's it's it's not very often that that I 663 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 5: get to to talk about it, so it's nice to 664 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 5: bring back those memories. 665 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: Does anyone there know, like, do you ever get recognized? 666 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 5: I think occasionally in London by American tourists, but occasionally 667 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 5: three Blue Moon. Yeah, but it's I still, I still, 668 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 5: I still, you know, for all I can. 669 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to do it. 670 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 4: Guys, thank you so much for having me on. 671 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for coming on. We're so excited that 672 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: because I feel like you. I was looking you up 673 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: on Instagram to see if I could just see you know, 674 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: do my like pre research and just to see what 675 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: was going on in your life lately, and I couldn't 676 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 2: find you. And I'm like, oh, I'm sure he's just 677 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: like I don't need Instagram, like I'm living my life. 678 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: I just wanted to private. Yeah, so thank you for coming. 679 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 3: You did. 680 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, if the radar's okay, next time we have more time, 681 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 5: then we'll go into all that that that stuff. So 682 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 5: you have to invite me back. 683 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 2: Would love that love that. Maybe maybe you can bring 684 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: your your lovely wife backs on with you. Maybe we'll 685 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 2: do maybe we'll do a couples if she, if she 686 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: would be open. 687 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 5: To it, I can well, I can ask, but I 688 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 5: think I know the answer. 689 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 3: Probably the same as my wife. My wife's always like, yeah, 690 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 3: I'm good, No, thank you, right. 691 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: I'm like you're talking awesome, well, thank. 692 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 3: You, continued success. 693 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: Cheers to you by such a nice guy, right, I mean, honestly, 694 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: I love him and it's not just I mean, I'm 695 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: sure there's a certain element of his English charm that 696 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 1: you know is just kind of there, but you can 697 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: genuinely tell that he is just a good person, just 698 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: a nice person, and came see that experience, you know, 699 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: I think you with taking the right lessons from it. 700 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: You know, he said it was a lesson in humility 701 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: as well, and I think that's people that come off 702 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: the show realizing that, you know, there were some moments 703 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: that they would have done differently, or however it might go. 704 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 3: I think probably get the most out of it than 705 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 3: anybody else. You know. 706 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to know. I would love to 707 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 2: have him back because I would love to know what 708 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 2: Why did he become so private? I feel like there's 709 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 2: a story. 710 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 3: There, you know, I think there is too. 711 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 2: There's a reason that he's private. I don't know if 712 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 2: it's because of his wife or or before, but I 713 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: so when I was looking on Instagram, there there was 714 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 2: an article I think from people magazine and or an 715 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 2: Instagram post or something and they they tagged him, or 716 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 2: they tagged an Instagram handle and I clicked on it, 717 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 2: and I was like, that is not him. So I 718 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 2: wonder if back then, if he had this Instagram handle 719 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 2: and then he got rid of it and someone else 720 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: took it up. Yea, So maybe he wasn't so private 721 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: back then when he was still living in the States. 722 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: Uh sure, son, you know who knows. I mean, at 723 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think, you know, it's 724 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: probably one of those things. He just wanted to go 725 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: back to his old life because he had a daughter 726 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: and you know, and or now he has a daughter. 727 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: I shaidn't, but maybe that was what Droe. I don't know, 728 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: but I would love to have him back on too. 729 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: He's really, to hear, a really great guest. 730 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 2: He is such I love the accent. I mean, I 731 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 2: kind of wish you would have broke you. 732 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: Know well when he did his when he did his 733 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: American accent, that was almost my inn. 734 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 3: But I didn't want to be like hell then, so 735 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 3: I held off. 736 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: I know, I was like, okame on, do it. Do it? 737 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 3: Care for team mate is what I would have said, 738 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 3: you know. 739 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 2: I can't even try mine. I would just be butchering 740 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: a period. End of story. Thanks for listening to everybody, 741 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: Thanks everybody,