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<v Speaker 1>My Girl. I Heart Radio, now number one for podcasting,

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<v Speaker 1>week is The Breakfast Club thirty morning. Everybody is DJ Envy,

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<v Speaker 1>Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

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<v Speaker 1>We got special guests in the building. She's in here

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<v Speaker 1>with all this big queen energy. Ari A Lennox Welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. How you feel this morning? Horror

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<v Speaker 1>pid All right, I'm just a little nervous, you only

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<v Speaker 1>because he's just kidding. Yeah, but it's a little nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very legendary show. So what took you so

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<v Speaker 1>long to come up hitting beer beer? Yeah? What you

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<v Speaker 1>scared of before? And yeah, I love we had to

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<v Speaker 1>get to No, it's just you know, y'all can be

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<v Speaker 1>a little tough on people sometimes. Yeah, we've evolved, You've

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<v Speaker 1>changed the whole lots. Yeah, and I feel that I

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<v Speaker 1>feel that I want to if you don't mind, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for people that that don't know who Arilens is or

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<v Speaker 1>where you're signed to or how you got your story.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start from the beginning for those people.

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<v Speaker 1>Since this is you, you're here to do a documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so you're signed to J Cole. How did

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<v Speaker 1>you get into the music industry and signed to Cole? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I was working at Public storage and just dropping music

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<v Speaker 1>on SoundCloud and there's an amazing rapper named Omen. He

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<v Speaker 1>loved my music. He told Eve and Cole about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, we'll fly you out like tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>or tonight something like that so that you can meet

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<v Speaker 1>Cole and the studio and stuff like that. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was horrified. You know, I just got the job. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to lose the job. It was ten dollars

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<v Speaker 1>an hour, you know what it meant. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>highest paid job I ever had an hour. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to like lose this, so I almost

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go. But honestly, I think it was fear, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fear of flying and things like that. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>I got over it. I drank Matt vodka and I

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<v Speaker 1>got on that flight. I was the first flight as well,

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<v Speaker 1>first flight in a long time, like years. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>lose your job? Yeah? I did, and I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was horrified and I started doing uber. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>what were you afraid? Why are you afraid of fly? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I had a traumatic experience when I was young on

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<v Speaker 1>a flight or or something. Yeah, well the engines went

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<v Speaker 1>out and so yeah and so as yeah, so as

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<v Speaker 1>we're about to land, he's basically telling us to brace

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<v Speaker 1>for impact. And I was very young and just praying.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't remember having fear before that moment. But

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<v Speaker 1>after that moment, I was just scared at trumble. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so absolutely. Now let's let's let's rewind. Now you lose

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<v Speaker 1>your job and you become a looble driver. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>see you are h am I good driver? It depends.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very safe at driving, yes, but there are things

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<v Speaker 1>that have happened where it's just like I could have

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<v Speaker 1>been more a little bit more alert. Okay, where you

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<v Speaker 1>Where was your star rating? My star rating? Oh? It

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<v Speaker 1>started dropping like crazy, and and I don't, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. Some people thought I was driving

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<v Speaker 1>too fast or one note I got was I was

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<v Speaker 1>switching lanes too much. But I was trying to get them, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what Hell, yeah, I was public storage. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have no big fancy you know, tell me. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a nice flack interior and a big

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<v Speaker 1>bowl of candy and drivers have candy. Yes, I did

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<v Speaker 1>have much I would give because you know you can't trust.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you play your own music? I did? No, not

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<v Speaker 1>my I would never, I mean never never. No. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you make conversation or were you quiet? I made some

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<v Speaker 1>conversations sometimes. Um, three times people threw up in my car?

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<v Speaker 1>How does that work? Do they pay for it? Or

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<v Speaker 1>they pay for it but it's nowhere near enough and

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<v Speaker 1>then you lose like five days of work because your

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<v Speaker 1>car stinks and you're traumatized. How long did you have

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<v Speaker 1>the Uber job for? This is interesting. This is my

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<v Speaker 1>longest job today. Uber. I probably did for like at

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<v Speaker 1>least a year or something. Wow. Yeah, I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>media didn't go well because you lost your job, but

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<v Speaker 1>then you started driving Uber. No, the meeting went really well.

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<v Speaker 1>I just you know, I had to still make money.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they were still you know, taking their time

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<v Speaker 1>with the idea of like signing me. It wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>an immediate This is my last uber question when you

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<v Speaker 1>saw that. When you saw the episode of ventually, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to read with driving, did you say, oh

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<v Speaker 1>I see me? Oh you know what? Okay, yeah, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>she drove Insecure for wow, I feel like a loser.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to you know why I never watched Insecure

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<v Speaker 1>because every time I would watch an episode, I would

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<v Speaker 1>just get so sad about my life and how like

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<v Speaker 1>sexy these men were and how I had no men.

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<v Speaker 1>But but that's my choice. I feel like my choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it is my choice. Could you could have a man,

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<v Speaker 1>but it might not be the one. Some people are

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<v Speaker 1>okay with settling and saying Okay, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be alone, and people make you feel like that, But

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<v Speaker 1>the truth is just better to like wait till the

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<v Speaker 1>right person. Absolutely, I've definitely learned that like the hard way,

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<v Speaker 1>so very like intentional particular about like who I want

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<v Speaker 1>to share my time with. So I found myself alone

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot, why not changing the mindset a little?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you see the sexy man and you'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have that one day. I'm gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>man like that for myself one day. I've been more

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<v Speaker 1>adamant on like my standards. Absolutely, I do do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm more like, yes, he has to be fine, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he has to have a nice job. Yes, he has

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<v Speaker 1>to be good to me, an effective communicator, like I am, like,

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<v Speaker 1>have his own place. He did have his own place.

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<v Speaker 1>I am, you know, chanting those things with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>my assistant loves you, Mercedes, Mercedes. So she sent me

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of questions. One of the questions she said,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a song called pof. She's single, by the way, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because she says, have you tried the dating app pof?

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<v Speaker 1>And what you ever catfish? And then she goes, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, that dating site is terrible, Oh, so have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever tried plenty of fish before? Absolutely? I met

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<v Speaker 1>my first boyfriend on pof? Really his name is John.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'll get in trouble for that,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I shouldn't have shouted name John is right, John,

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be so lit when the thing of you

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<v Speaker 1>come out. Got kicked up with some dating sites because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't believe that it was you. Yeah, tender um,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't believe it was me, and I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to blank my Instagram so that people would know it's me.

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<v Speaker 1>And then maybe reach out to me for the wrong reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Secret rappers. This is fly, thank you. What is happening here?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I need to step outside more. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>finally stepping outside and like meeting like nice, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyable individuals. Let's go back to John for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you throw John back in the sea? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>John went to the military, and I felt like we

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<v Speaker 1>were growing apart and the affection was lacking. He called

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<v Speaker 1>me bro one and I was just like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't yeah, and it triggered me. But and I

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<v Speaker 1>know it wasn't just bro like, it's it's fine, you

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<v Speaker 1>can call me that. It's just I felt like our

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<v Speaker 1>romance was kind of dissipating, and so I think that

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<v Speaker 1>was just a triggering thing. And we had an argument.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I was like, well, I guess we're not together anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of where to protect myself. Unfortunately I

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<v Speaker 1>do that, and he was like, Okay, fine, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>together anymore, and he was really serious, Well, his loss.

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<v Speaker 1>How many songs is he inspired? Um? Probably Pope the

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<v Speaker 1>EP and my album Shape, but her Baby that's literally

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<v Speaker 1>greatly inspired by him. And I'm so grateful. Well was

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<v Speaker 1>the first relationship I ever had. Yeah, we're cool. We

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<v Speaker 1>check on each other sometimes. I ain't get a credit

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<v Speaker 1>shape well, I mean say when you just don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get back together and back I know women that

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<v Speaker 1>swear by shape butter Baby, like they like that's like

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<v Speaker 1>their their bible. So that's that's big of him. You

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<v Speaker 1>John I inspired Shape shirts please. The free iHeart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>this is the Breakfast Club thirty part of Sunday Night

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<v Speaker 1>podcast on iHeartRadio. We're still kicking it with Ari Lenox.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've met a lot of guys like, well, you've

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<v Speaker 1>dated guys and they've been secret rappers. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was really funny. Oh when you dating somebody and then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden you find out later like your

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<v Speaker 1>pastors to cold from me? Are you exactly? Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the worst it happens. Like, but that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned with dating acts specific questions. Are you a

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<v Speaker 1>rapper recording? Do you play basketball? Specifically? Goodness, dude, that

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<v Speaker 1>is hilarious. That's a plot for a movie or something.

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<v Speaker 1>The girl thinks that the guy is cheating, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>really sneaking off the recording escape exactly. And what did

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<v Speaker 1>your mom and your family say when you're recording with

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<v Speaker 1>Cole and going out there and recording, because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times parents don't leading the industry, right, my dad

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<v Speaker 1>never really knew what was going on in my life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he knew. He was the one who always

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<v Speaker 1>said you're gonna be something one day, Like he always

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<v Speaker 1>said that, but like he was kind of always doing

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<v Speaker 1>his own things, so he never really was seeing that

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<v Speaker 1>I was how serious I was about music, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why he was like, you should be a nurse, but

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<v Speaker 1>really he wanted to be a nurse. And my mom

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<v Speaker 1>was very calm, was just like forward, like happy for me,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, very supportive. She never really knew this, like

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<v Speaker 1>how serious he said that. Your dad used to always

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<v Speaker 1>tell you you're gonna be something, You're gonna be something.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that put added pressure on a daughter with me? Wow? No,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what? And it sucks because we were not

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<v Speaker 1>even speaking right now. Ill what's going on? Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're not even speaking right now. But I do feel

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<v Speaker 1>like when you instill certain things like that, it goes

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<v Speaker 1>a long way for sure, because um, that is the

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<v Speaker 1>one area in my life where I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>did really good right now with you when your dad

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<v Speaker 1>not now speaking, is it something small that you can

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<v Speaker 1>call him like? Because life is it's so much so

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<v Speaker 1>like it. Um, I really think it's important for like

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<v Speaker 1>people to be healed when they're bringing kids into this

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<v Speaker 1>world because it's just like that alone. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>probably innately helped me in so many ways, like always

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<v Speaker 1>grinding and like that. But um, I could also see

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<v Speaker 1>the other like you know that I carry and it's, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it has to do with the others you

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<v Speaker 1>know that you go through trauma. Well, let me let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you something I learned in therapy because the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I had a breakthrough in therapy was literally

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<v Speaker 1>realizing all the daddy issues I had. Yeah, So when

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<v Speaker 1>me and my dad had a conversation and I realized, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a human before he was my dad, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had his own issues self distribus issues, dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>mental health issues and he was just doing the best

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<v Speaker 1>he could with what he had at the time. It

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<v Speaker 1>allowed me to give him a lot more grace. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to give our parents great I know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel like there needs to be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of group therapy, absolutely, and of course I want to

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<v Speaker 1>continue my therapy alone, but I think that would probably

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<v Speaker 1>be best because I know these are things I'm even

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<v Speaker 1>carrying into my dating life and I just don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have that weight on me. And I do want

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<v Speaker 1>to be more compassionate because he went through a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with foster care and abandonment issues and all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of like dark things, So I do recognize why

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<v Speaker 1>he is the way that he is. And you've been

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<v Speaker 1>really open about going to therapy. When did you decide

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<v Speaker 1>that that was something you wanted to do this year?

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<v Speaker 1>I was just tired of just being a big ball

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<v Speaker 1>of like traumas, like just being unaware of like what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on inside, and like, you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times I could be so triggered and it's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>well why, And now I'm realizing why somebody just pretending

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't exist, or like not even looking at me,

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<v Speaker 1>or like kind of having like this arrogant nature can

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<v Speaker 1>be so triggering. Like where did I see that like

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<v Speaker 1>earlier in my life or experience that, Like I'm starting

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<v Speaker 1>to realize it never stops. It's like a cycle. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't realize that you're carrying all of this way,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes out in different ways and people be like,

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<v Speaker 1>why she freaked out? It wasn't even that serious. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a reminder. It was a flashback, probably a trigger

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<v Speaker 1>without even realizing where it came from. There's always something

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<v Speaker 1>in our childhood. Yeah, always something that happened in our childhood.

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<v Speaker 1>And to bring you it happened to you an adult.

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<v Speaker 1>When it happened, you can triggered. You're like, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what that's why therapy is. Greg's like, oh, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reacting, Like, because what happened here? Yes, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's been really beautiful and like eye opening for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you healing those those childhood wounds? Oh? Definitely, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to keep going deeper. This start is happening for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And you said you see a lot of that in

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<v Speaker 1>the relationships that you have now, Like what are some

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<v Speaker 1>things and patterns Like I know you said you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be more sympathetic, So what are some things that

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like, Okay, I gotta work on this. Damn

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<v Speaker 1>Probably how I'm communicating. I'm a very anxious person, so

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<v Speaker 1>basically instead of saying I've said this before, but instead

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<v Speaker 1>of saying like nobody cares, like it's just about wealth,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like this is how I'm feeling,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know that I'm not being heard or you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. Like, I try to work on

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<v Speaker 1>how I'm communicating because I get so kind of in

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<v Speaker 1>my own anxiety and mess that I can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>be a little insensitive sometimes. So I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>work on like that. And when it comes to performing

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<v Speaker 1>and getting on stage, are you the type of person

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<v Speaker 1>who gets nervous before that or does it all go

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<v Speaker 1>away and that's where you feel most comfortable most times.

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<v Speaker 1>I rarely get nervous like that nervous, but certain things

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<v Speaker 1>like TV performances like I'm shaking, like it's just certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>Or Jasmine Jasmine like at the when we performed at

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<v Speaker 1>the BT Awards, like horrified, like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>let this legend down, like Jasmine Sullivan is everything. So yeah, question,

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<v Speaker 1>when you get triggered by secret rappers, do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>the struggle rapper who traumatized you? Oh? So many, so

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<v Speaker 1>many yeah, gious people will never hear of. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many bright people we never hear of, like they just

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<v Speaker 1>they won't say it until like you like them, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like, oh, I'm about to go to the studio.

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<v Speaker 1>Why like when whatever, they don't know who you are

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<v Speaker 1>when they want to date you and act like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, like hey, what what do you do? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>and act like they're not sure who you are. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've definitely been in a relationship where he acted like

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<v Speaker 1>I was not who I am at all. That's ridiculous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to feel appreciated. He kept trying to

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<v Speaker 1>say it was just it's ego, like you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not all about you type thing. But really I just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like he always kind of diminished everything about me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like kind of pretended like this singing part

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even exist. I hate people like that. Don't try

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<v Speaker 1>to make me feel small because you're clue. Yeah, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, oh my gosh, what I mean? You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know what you know? What I mean

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<v Speaker 1>people that try to make us feel small just because

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't done what they wanted doing life. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess so. But now now him Jesus, but now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I just my goal is just just a date

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<v Speaker 1>nice people. It's got to be hard though, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>r linox now for you don't know who well, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who likes you for you or who likes

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<v Speaker 1>you because you're a superstar. Where you guys size the

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<v Speaker 1>you know plenty of fish like where you meeting? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the other day I met a guy at the fashion

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<v Speaker 1>show that was really nice and he was he was

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<v Speaker 1>so fine, But the date is terrible? How do you

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<v Speaker 1>what was the date? Dressing probably better than yours want

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<v Speaker 1>to dress? How do heki continue? How you're sitting there?

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<v Speaker 1>He walks over, he acts security first while we were

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in a seat, and he oh, dang, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want nobody to but yeah, she's sitting next to you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want tell you when you could stop? Now? Yeh,

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<v Speaker 1>what was your He just he reached out and introduced

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<v Speaker 1>himself in like shook hands and it was really cute

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<v Speaker 1>and sweet. W was the first date the first day?

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna tell you where. It was a lovely restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>it really was. But he was late. He was late

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<v Speaker 1>to think his bad during fashion now he supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be he was. He was hanging out with Jacole and

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<v Speaker 1>Um what it's able. No, that's what I'm saying that

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<v Speaker 1>with Jacole my Day, the whole team is like stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>Lennox Charlagne. What was your intention with this album? The

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<v Speaker 1>intention was just me showcasing dating, and it's entirety from

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to get away from dating, but used

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<v Speaker 1>to bought us right back. I know it's all right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's on subject for and it's where you all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what a lot of people can relate to you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the main questions people ask, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you find somebody like, somebody good, somebody nice? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about marriage? Like? Are you dating with the intention

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<v Speaker 1>to get married? That's how you find somebody probably is

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<v Speaker 1>how finding yourself really, and so that's really what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>focused on. I got a little distracted with that recent

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<v Speaker 1>date and then I was like, well, let me see

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<v Speaker 1>what else is out here. But I think I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pull back into like myself and just kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>change my number and just focus on more beautiful books

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<v Speaker 1>on trauma and just focus on me. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>great one for you momenticum my grandmother's hands. Really. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We also have a Marian I'm Bothered book in here? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that about Trauma's adorable? Okay? Things? Oh no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to get the book back. No singers, no singers,

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<v Speaker 1>no rapper. What about ball players you said earlier? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if he played basketball, he doesn't mention that. Maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>soccer player. Go with the money? At is that where

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<v Speaker 1>the money? That's money yet real money yet soccer? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying we have intentions. That's all. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>finish your thought on the intentions of this album? The

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<v Speaker 1>intention of the album is just making beautiful music that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like I'm in love based on crushes of people

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<v Speaker 1>I've never even hung out with before, like mean mug

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<v Speaker 1>and hoodie crushes on fine men that I never Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>then it gets to blocking YouTube, it gets blocking you,

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<v Speaker 1>and That's where I'm at right now with it, like

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<v Speaker 1>in real life. But yeah, it's just dating and the

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<v Speaker 1>emotions and towards the end of the album, I'm definitely

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<v Speaker 1>more about like, Okay, it's time to protect my peace. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>no one's gonna do that for me. And I find

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<v Speaker 1>it irresponsible to be moving around in life with all

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<v Speaker 1>of these unhealed you know, traumas and trying to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get to know people. So I just, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to check some things, some codependency things and anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>That's powerful. People fast, you about black people fast if

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<v Speaker 1>they ignore you, just black room, I do. Like one time,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt that there was distance happening, and I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>can we talk. I feel like something is changing. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I thought we were good. I thought everything

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<v Speaker 1>was good. Um, you know what, I just need to

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<v Speaker 1>get something to eat. I'm gonna call you right back.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I got on the phone my dad and

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<v Speaker 1>me and my dad talked for like two hours and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear from the guy. I'm looking at my

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<v Speaker 1>phone like wow, like and so I blocked him. After that,

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<v Speaker 1>that was it. We spoke one time since then. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure for some reason, I'm attracting avoidant people who don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to communicate. Well, you're probably attracting what you are.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why what you said about you know, healing your

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<v Speaker 1>own trauma before you get into another situation. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>important that right there, that's better than money. You know

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<v Speaker 1>how we are you know about to say, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how we always say you need a man with money,

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<v Speaker 1>but did you you know, you know, but you really

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<v Speaker 1>want a man that is doing the work like you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing the work every I got so many home girls

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I can't date a man if they're not

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<v Speaker 1>in therapy, they're not trying to heal. Wow, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I would want for myself, a secure individual and or

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's striving to be secure and healing as well

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<v Speaker 1>as I am healing and trying to heal. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you what did you think, because you know

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<v Speaker 1>you are one of the leaders of this new R

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<v Speaker 1>and B era, what did you think of did these

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<v Speaker 1>comments that R and B is dead? I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was dismissive to all of the amazing legendary artists that

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<v Speaker 1>have been in the game and that are also contributing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, from Mary J. Blige to Jasmine Sullivan to

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<v Speaker 1>Summer Walker, to Lame to Money Long Van Jest, Lucky Day,

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<v Speaker 1>Lucky Day, Aaron Ray. There's so many of us. T

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 1>Nariel Brent, Fiz Jalen Jossi her her. Yes, yes, let's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Sissa, like everyone is still killing it and

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<v Speaker 1>dropping music. And it was dismissive just because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know think. Yeah, Tank exactly amazing. Yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why he said that it was not nice, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do love all that he's contributed to music, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>no shade. But it's like being more nice to the

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<v Speaker 1>people that are really you know, we're out here still

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<v Speaker 1>stop it. Right off the wonder when you was young

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get on, what did you think the industry

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<v Speaker 1>would be like? And what have you realized? You know

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<v Speaker 1>it really is. But I think it was gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't remember. I just knew. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>saw baw Wau up there and Joe Joe, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to be like them, like when I was young. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I think? I don't know what I thought. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I thought there was gonna be like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of like devil people illuminatis. I haven't seen yet to

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<v Speaker 1>see that. I thought there would be a lot of cocaine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet I've yet to see the everthing I've never seen

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<v Speaker 1>it before, sacrifice a family member or something. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to think I've ever seen before either. No, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been offered it, but I've never seen it. It

0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 1>was never been offered, I don't believe, or have offered

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<v Speaker 1>it twice in my life. But they didn't like have

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<v Speaker 1>it in their hand. Wow, They were like, do you party? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>then I have been offered it before then well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no bad through room. Yes that's what that meant. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, you've been off a cocaine. I haven't offered cocaine. Say,

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<v Speaker 1>all your friends are in the little knot. We do

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you, we appreciate your music. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of hurt when you said you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do interviews anymore. I was like, don't let one

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>bad interaction with somebody mess up somebody else, you know.

0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm glad you're over that, and I'm glad you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing interviews again. Thank you. I want people to understand

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<v Speaker 1>that was just a part of my anxious nature of

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<v Speaker 1>like what I met earlier, when I was just like

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<v Speaker 1>nobody cares. I kind of worst case scenario and jumped

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<v Speaker 1>to like the extreme. I'm kind of black and white

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<v Speaker 1>with things especially. Yeah, and I definitely didn't mean that

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<v Speaker 1>I was just so heartbroken by the fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>would release something that we didn't agree on him releasing,

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:58.399
<v Speaker 1>and I just kind of felt ambushed, you know. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into a record off that what you want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear? Oh? I guess boy bye, because that's the

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<v Speaker 1>was beautiful Dada's energy. Wow. And we prayed before we

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