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Speaker 2: Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon.
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Speaker 5: That's a good What a playing right there with the
Speaker 5: big old gite and getting out of there, big guy,
Speaker 5: we are without my boy.
Speaker 4: My boy Boy's not here.
Speaker 5: My boy's not here today. That's all good.
Speaker 4: My boy's stuck in track.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna hold it down, your boy.
Speaker 4: My boy.
Speaker 5: Kurt's not here, Nate is stuck in traffic. Should have
Speaker 5: left on, Tom, big fella. Should have gave yourself a
Speaker 5: little bit more fell He's always the one like sitting
Speaker 5: in here. Yeah, we got jazz oh in the back
Speaker 5: looking Hey jazz, you need jazz, daddy. You should have
Speaker 5: poured jazz half a couple of what you had. He's
Speaker 5: a little picking me upper, all right, and put your
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Speaker 4: All right, just me and you to kick off the show.
Speaker 6: Let's do it.
Speaker 4: We don't do that very often. Usually one of us
Speaker 4: is missing.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: True, it's good.
Speaker 4: It's good to see you.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: How you feeling.
Speaker 5: You're goodday?
Speaker 6: What a week?
Speaker 4: What a week?
Speaker 6: What a week?
Speaker 5: What a week?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 5: I'm what a week?
Speaker 4: Floating a little bit?
Speaker 5: I am cruising, baby, I'm cruising.
Speaker 6: What a week?
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: Boy, my blessed boy and my blessing boy, they're about
Speaker 5: to hate me a little bit out there.
Speaker 4: And we talk about that morning. There you go, you
Speaker 4: go strolling in here there, it's late. Come on in
Speaker 4: the water's fine, come on, we're good. Nate's walking down
Speaker 4: the hall. Here he comes, Nate. How are you how
Speaker 4: you doing? We're just getting started.
Speaker 5: How's it going, baby, We're good.
Speaker 4: You're never late.
Speaker 6: What happened four o'clock? You got it?
Speaker 4: Not used to that traffic man.
Speaker 6: The traffic got me my GPS said one time.
Speaker 4: But the traffic saying, all right, we're just getting started,
Speaker 4: just getting settled in. You're doing good.
Speaker 6: Today, Brom. You know if im.
Speaker 7: You can't live life better than Nate telling you. Bro,
Speaker 7: I'm telling you your new look Jess with the same look. Yes,
Speaker 7: you gotta get a different look.
Speaker 6: You see his hair.
Speaker 5: Looks good, looks good. It looks good.
Speaker 7: Like we gotta get different looks. I'm playing just ain't
Speaker 7: changed the name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, doesn't do the same Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, just a he changed his name. At least he
Speaker 7: did something. I'm playing Jane ugly shirt everything.
Speaker 6: That's all right.
Speaker 4: We know what we're getting.
Speaker 6: Every day you can put jazz. I want you all
Speaker 6: to see my new jazz.
Speaker 5: She's still she's still working progress, still working progress, jazz.
Speaker 7: Coming the people who you are today. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 7: she's taking her dreads out. One side of her head
Speaker 7: is just regular hair and the rest of the side
Speaker 7: of the head is dread flocks.
Speaker 5: I'm sorrycks. Nothing nothing is dreading about her hair.
Speaker 6: D situation.
Speaker 5: She's in a she's in a procure situation.
Speaker 6: Sure, WHOA.
Speaker 4: Well good, Jesse's doing great, you're doing great. Jazz is questionable.
Speaker 6: Kurt's not here.
Speaker 4: He's gonna he's listening about rock.
Speaker 5: Great, he's gonna do some good concerts. Well, you're doing
Speaker 5: a little work on Saturday, you know, yeah, yeah, Well
Speaker 5: what's about about Saturday? Yeah, you know, doing a little
Speaker 5: work for for Compass Media.
Speaker 4: Oh nice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So your boy will be calling the game nationally.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, calling the game nationally Accompass
Speaker 5: Media on Saturday. So I'll be back at the stadium,
Speaker 5: me and Kevin Ray. Good for you, sweet So yeah,
Speaker 5: so I get to do that.
Speaker 4: Where can we listen to you on the radio? Let
Speaker 4: us know after the fact where it was.
Speaker 5: Follow me at mister, I'll let you know. I'll let
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 4: Good for you, Jess.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, God is good, brother, man. Yeah, I ain't
Speaker 5: get that far.
Speaker 6: I get that far.
Speaker 4: I get that far, bid man. So the game Saturday?
Speaker 4: What are we gonna see?
Speaker 6: Game?
Speaker 5: The one that hold on time out? Now, I told
Speaker 5: some people this earlier. We're gonna be respectful about this
Speaker 5: live preseason game. Yea, we're gonna be We're.
Speaker 4: Gonna came no matter what people say, you can make
Speaker 4: the team.
Speaker 5: Were going this game right, We're gonna handle this game
Speaker 5: with a little.
Speaker 4: Bit of Okay, So since this game is so near
Speaker 4: and dear to your heart, last preseason game, Yes, is
Speaker 4: there a difference between now when there's only three and
Speaker 4: back when you played when there were four?
Speaker 6: Does it?
Speaker 4: Does it still have the same I guess weight? Or
Speaker 4: is there more weight on this one because it's more.
Speaker 7: The third game was the veterans game. Right now, now
Speaker 7: every game is the rookies game. And now it's like
Speaker 7: a week ago. You got what I'm saying, Jalen Cropper
Speaker 7: fumbled one and bobbled one. So now he got another
Speaker 7: game to say that was a mistake. This is who
Speaker 7: I am.
Speaker 4: I just bought some of his rookie cards too.
Speaker 5: Oh you believe I did you believe in the sixth
Speaker 5: bottom before last the game. But because here's the thing,
Speaker 5: when you break this stuff down, if we're being honest,
Speaker 5: and that's what we do on the show, one roster
Speaker 5: spot one till about forty thirty thirty.
Speaker 7: Thirty thirty thirty one. Yeah, for me, locked up for me,
Speaker 7: it's locked up. But we knew that two months ago, Yes, yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, before camp, right, we.
Speaker 5: Knew, we knew, we knew one I'll say one to
Speaker 5: thirty five. Okay, okay, I'll say I'll say ter spot
Speaker 5: one to thirty five. We knew two months ago this game.
Speaker 5: No one's getting a starting job from this game, right,
Speaker 5: Like that's not happening.
Speaker 4: You already know who those guys.
Speaker 5: We know who those guys are, Like, we know even
Speaker 5: even you're center, no one's getting a starting job from
Speaker 5: this game. We know who those guys are, even the center,
Speaker 5: even the tackle they know. This is a game where
Speaker 5: you're gonna have guys make up the tail end of
Speaker 5: this roster and will play a significant role in ways
Speaker 5: where you may not notice it right when you the game,
Speaker 5: saving tackle on kickoff, a block on punt return. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like those type of things are
Speaker 5: gonna come from a guy that you may not recognize
Speaker 5: because these are the right But also this is the end.
Speaker 5: This will be the end of the road for a
Speaker 5: lot of human beings. This game will be the end
Speaker 5: of a lot of people's football journeys. It will this
Speaker 5: will be your last chance. And also some guys may
Speaker 5: not be roster ready and still need a little bit
Speaker 5: more development and the the the advent or the the
Speaker 5: the the addition to the practice squad. And I'll continue
Speaker 5: to keep this respectful right because we make jokes, not us,
Speaker 5: but people out there will make those. Oh you only
Speaker 5: on the practice squad. You only pract squad make two
Speaker 5: one thousand dollars in seventeen weeks for you guys that
Speaker 5: only make twelve dollars an hour, thirty mili.
Speaker 6: You see, guys make it. Yeah, you should wish you
Speaker 6: was practice squad.
Speaker 5: So before y'all got there in the cowboy world and
Speaker 5: so sweetie world. Oh you only on a practice squad
Speaker 5: two hundred grand a week on thousand and seventeen weeks
Speaker 5: to work three days a week and don't travel on weekends.
Speaker 5: I don't know what y'all do for a living. Legally,
Speaker 5: you gotta have a you gotta have a damn good job.
Speaker 4: And you get to watch home games from the sideline
Speaker 4: if you want, and you't got to buy a ticket, right,
Speaker 4: and you get premiere parking and you get to go
Speaker 4: to club after.
Speaker 5: That, and you get glizzies that have to probably sneak
Speaker 5: on the sideline, you know what I'm saying, So that
Speaker 5: that's what this game is about. We we know who
Speaker 5: won thirty five. We know we know who's lining up
Speaker 5: come Cleveland. We know we've been do that, right, So
Speaker 5: who's on that?
Speaker 4: In y'all's opinion, who are who are on who? Who
Speaker 4: are right outside that thirty five that needs to show
Speaker 4: up in this game?
Speaker 7: That Jalens, the Jalen's OFFPT. Tobra is he's an OFFICEPT.
Speaker 7: Jalen to the rest of the three. Other Jalens are fighting
Speaker 7: for their Jalen lines.
Speaker 5: The Jaylens are fighting.
Speaker 6: Yes. The linebackers are fighting. Not so much.
Speaker 7: Yes, they are for positions. It's only one, maybe one
Speaker 7: or two and who can play that special team.
Speaker 4: Their fight for depth, right, they're playing for depth.
Speaker 5: You're playing. You're playing for Jersey on Sunday. You're paying
Speaker 5: to be a part of that forty eight that's right
Speaker 5: on Sunday.
Speaker 7: It's a little bit closer with them, you think it's
Speaker 7: a littit closer with the receivers with the linebackers.
Speaker 6: Flying backers, yes.
Speaker 5: Linebackers, yes. Because we're all assuming cit is going to
Speaker 5: be here right, So we're assuming city yes, Brandon Cooks, yes, Jen, Yes, yeah.
Speaker 4: One or two more. How many receivers do you think
Speaker 4: they're gonna carry this year?
Speaker 5: Probably five six, Probably only four active game.
Speaker 4: Day because you need the linebackers and there.
Speaker 5: I think the line I think the linebackers are are vital.
Speaker 5: I think I think yeah, I think those guys.
Speaker 4: Especially with the depth problems you had last year.
Speaker 5: Right, so I'm with you they I think the Jalen's
Speaker 5: and and you're tiring Billy Johnson, your boy Deuce.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, what what's the running back spot
Speaker 4: look like? Right now? You know Zeke?
Speaker 7: Right, you know Rico, and then it's Ducemon and and
Speaker 7: and the big Kid.
Speaker 5: No big kid is mixed in now, Zeke. To me,
Speaker 5: I'm saying no to you. But your listen, Zeke, Rico.
Speaker 7: That's okay. We're on the same page. Malik uh uh
Speaker 7: you think.
Speaker 6: Deuce is in the mix.
Speaker 5: And by the way, Mike McCarthy special, he's not cutting limpkey.
Speaker 6: That's what that's that was.
Speaker 7: So the big Kid again over again, Zeke one, Rico two,
Speaker 7: Royce uh uh, limp key for me.
Speaker 5: Limpkey, limpy Royce, Royce, climpkey, that's how those are.
Speaker 6: Next those limp Key, Deuce then Roys.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, yeah, well because the first two guys, you
Speaker 7: ain't getting the three and.
Speaker 4: Four really, and Deuce is interesting with Turpin because if
Speaker 4: you didn't have the trust in Turping, he may be
Speaker 4: that may be flipped right.
Speaker 5: That was my that was That's always been my my scream, Gadget,
Speaker 5: is where else are you playing?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 4: So he's almost like wrong time, wrong place right Herping
Speaker 4: coming in when he did and being that guy because
Speaker 4: he could be that guy.
Speaker 6: He could be.
Speaker 4: You got the trust with pro Bow.
Speaker 7: Because Coach Prince is fighting for Billy with Billy John.
Speaker 7: He fighting even though Billy hasn't really showed up in
Speaker 7: the games and he hasn't really done nothing, specially even
Speaker 7: when my man fumbled last week. He didn't come in
Speaker 7: and just makes something happen. He got hit full loss.
Speaker 7: So this thing tight now. So we move on next
Speaker 7: to what the Tighty ends.
Speaker 5: I go, I go, I go secondary.
Speaker 6: Okay, you go secondary. We're walking off of him, so
Speaker 6: I mean, are.
Speaker 5: You keeping how is that breaking down between DB's and
Speaker 5: and safeties? Right like you think about safeties. You think
Speaker 5: about huh, Malik Hooker. Then you go Donovan Wilson, Mark Bell,
Speaker 5: Markue's Bell, Janye Thomas.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 5: And then now the kid that took the interception back last.
Speaker 6: Week came in k E m O. N. Hall came
Speaker 6: in Hall right, where is.
Speaker 5: He in that mix?
Speaker 6: Verage?
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. What I mean, do you keep four?
Speaker 5: You add five safeties your corners, you're going of course,
Speaker 5: you're going digs. You're going blame You're right, you're going
Speaker 5: Louis as your as your nickel, right, you got your
Speaker 5: drive pick and Carson, well that's four. Now what we're
Speaker 5: going after that? You know what they just traded for
Speaker 5: from the You see what I'm saying. So I think
Speaker 5: now now if you go, if you go five safeties,
Speaker 5: you gotta go one less dB. If you go four safeties,
Speaker 5: then you add another dB in there. So I think
Speaker 5: that's a look for those guys.
Speaker 6: Go doctor special names, coach.
Speaker 5: But but these are the game. This is what we're
Speaker 5: talking about, right. This is when you go into that room,
Speaker 5: when they go into that room and they look on
Speaker 5: that board and it's Butler and it's it's it's the
Speaker 5: kid that they just traded for for and and it's
Speaker 5: some other guy. They're saying, Okay, they're all backups. Who
Speaker 5: gives me the most value over here special teams? Then
Speaker 5: one guy, well, he just plays kickoff and kickoff return. Okay,
Speaker 5: what does he do? Well, he plays kickoff kickoff return,
Speaker 5: and he's my wing of my punt. Okay, now you start.
Speaker 5: That's how you start differentiating who's going to be on
Speaker 5: this roster, who might be pushed to the.
Speaker 4: Practice, whoever has more dashes or or.
Speaker 7: When they asked, who do you trust more? Yeah, that's
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Speaker 5: You you would hope that if if you're in a
Speaker 5: conversation that Al Harris is saying, nah, I need, you
Speaker 5: hope that Fossil is saying because he might be the
Speaker 5: determined factor. Because you might have Prince saying, well, I
Speaker 5: need I need Billy, I need Billy Johnson, and you
Speaker 5: might have Al Harris saying, well I need so and
Speaker 5: so let's.
Speaker 4: Let's hold that thought because I want to know the
Speaker 4: dynamic and how those like who all's in the room?
Speaker 4: Okay in those because you know those conversations happen just
Speaker 4: like it's so as soon as preseason's over. There on
Speaker 4: the phones, working guys that get cut around the lead
Speaker 4: like how does this building structured in those last few
Speaker 4: days of cuts? And then picking other guys up, like
Speaker 4: who what are they broken out by head coach? Position coach?
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Speaker 4: Back to the conversation football. I'll ask you this before
Speaker 4: we talk about We talked about sponsors and guys trying
Speaker 4: to get the guys they like on the team right
Speaker 4: or on the practice squad. How many guys do you
Speaker 4: think get cut every year around the league league wide
Speaker 4: that are good enough to either play on a team,
Speaker 4: be a starter on a team that get cut that
Speaker 4: never get another chance just because of either politics or
Speaker 4: they get lost in the shuffle, or they were in
Speaker 4: a bad situation with too many guys in front of them.
Speaker 4: Do guys on other teams say, hey, we had to
Speaker 4: let this guy go, but you really need to look
Speaker 4: at him, or do they try to high them because
Speaker 4: they want to try to go get them later in
Speaker 4: the year. How many guys do you think are good
Speaker 4: enough to be in the league that just get lost?
Speaker 6: What is ninety guys on it?
Speaker 4: Ninety and ninety eight guys?
Speaker 7: You training to keep ninety ninety out of ninety guys,
Speaker 7: you got to keep fifty four, I'd say about six
Speaker 7: six guys.
Speaker 6: That can contribute to a team. I ain't saying start.
Speaker 4: Six guys per team or six guys lead wide team
Speaker 4: per team.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that can You're like, wow, this guy had
Speaker 6: something to give, but it.
Speaker 4: Just so one hundred numbers guys, one hundred and fifty
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy five guys. And then are there any
Speaker 4: guys you think that wind up getting washed out of
Speaker 4: the league, that that could really be good players like starters?
Speaker 4: And for sure they just wind up for sure, getting
Speaker 4: kind of. I mean, we all have heard the stories, right,
Speaker 4: like he end up back home. He's like, man, I
Speaker 4: was the coldest dude I ever seen play.
Speaker 5: But you know, circumstances of happened, injuries might happen, and
Speaker 5: sometimes fit fit is real like to be in the
Speaker 5: right place at the right time, with the right people
Speaker 5: who see a vision for you and invest in you.
Speaker 5: And yeah, because if if they don't see your worth
Speaker 5: or a purpose for you, your your your trash. And
Speaker 5: you know, in in the sense. But you can take
Speaker 5: a you can take a guy. Kurt Kirk Warner is
Speaker 5: a great example. Kurt Warner is a great example. Nobody
Speaker 5: was bagging groceries. You know what I'm saying, and and
Speaker 5: and and coach uh run listen missing his name, They'll
Speaker 5: come to me. But Coach Sawmon said Mike Mars. Mike
Speaker 5: Mars said, you're perfect for my system. And it worked
Speaker 5: as quick as you popped the bags ball and he said,
Speaker 5: if I'm gonna put this around you and Marshall falk
Speaker 5: back there, and next thing you know, he's wearing a
Speaker 5: gold jacket and has a part. You can't tell the
Speaker 5: NFL history without telling Court Warner because he had the
Speaker 5: greed he was he was the he was the captain
Speaker 5: of the Greatest show on Turkey.
Speaker 6: Yes he was.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, like you. So that's a
Speaker 5: perfect example.
Speaker 7: In the next in the next perfect example plays for
Speaker 7: the forty nine ers, which one the quarterback.
Speaker 5: Rock Party's irrelevant.
Speaker 6: He is my next guy because I'm looking at guys
Speaker 6: that you just like.
Speaker 7: All right that Shanahan may not have thought that right,
Speaker 7: But what was this guy's name when they drafted him?
Speaker 5: Tom Brady? Yeah, yeah, seventh round pick.
Speaker 6: And he had one of the biggest sponsors.
Speaker 7: He said that a coach and even the head coach
Speaker 7: said this guy, I don't know who the guy was.
Speaker 7: The guy's name stood up on the table, like literally
Speaker 7: got up on the table, like we have to.
Speaker 6: Have this guy. And he always scattered, and he always
Speaker 6: kept eye on and he always was watching what he
Speaker 6: was doing. And I had to have one. He had
Speaker 6: I had one.
Speaker 4: So talk us, talk us through. What that looks like
Speaker 4: in those conversations, is that the head coach and all
Speaker 4: the coaches in the room.
Speaker 7: Is that how you saying everybody's gonna be in the room.
Speaker 7: Everybody everybody has somebody yeah, is gonna.
Speaker 4: Be in So your scouts, your coaches, not ennial manager.
Speaker 6: Not every scout.
Speaker 5: Will mccleans in the room.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Wilma clears in the room. He's got it all
Speaker 6: written down for his guy.
Speaker 4: And he's in there with McCarthy and all the position
Speaker 4: coaches and Jerry and Steve and everybody's. Everybody's in there, right,
Speaker 4: and they're.
Speaker 5: Going name by name. Yeah, now something they'll spend more
Speaker 5: time on. They'll go Dak Prescott, move him over good,
Speaker 5: like he's good. Yeah, and then they'll start working and.
Speaker 4: You get down into that thirty five. When you get
Speaker 4: down about thirty five, and then that's when you start.
Speaker 6: That's when you start.
Speaker 4: Taught me, taught me through that.
Speaker 5: So, like I said before, like before we got to
Speaker 5: training camp, right percent of the offense and defensive started,
Speaker 5: were already booked now barring any injury or if the
Speaker 5: phone rang, And it was a significant trade that they
Speaker 5: can make that can add to the mix they had
Speaker 5: in their minds of who we were going to have
Speaker 5: as our starters. And then there's guys that went from
Speaker 5: Ota and they're like, all right, this is gonna be
Speaker 5: a guy. We're gonna We're gonna give this guy a
Speaker 5: chance to compete at camp. Right, so what you did
Speaker 5: in Ota is Minnie camps and your draft picks. All right,
Speaker 5: we're gonna give these guys a chance to compete at camp.
Speaker 5: And if those guys so like, now you go and
Speaker 5: you look at a guy like like uh like Maris
Speaker 5: Lula foul and you look at you know, Overshown and
Speaker 5: Clark and all those guys, they're competing. They're competing, Kendrick, Like,
Speaker 5: all those guys were competing for jobs, starting jobs. Now
Speaker 5: they'll get in a rotation. But who was my first
Speaker 5: go You know what I'm saying, Yeah, you know that
Speaker 5: digs and and and playing gonna be your starting corners.
Speaker 5: But other guys are like, I need to go out
Speaker 5: there and make plays so that when I get to
Speaker 5: this point in time on the board that my name
Speaker 5: sticks out like the name were talking about earlier, like
Speaker 5: all the Jalen's, like there was a prime opportunity with
Speaker 5: not having CD Lamb in place, because if his holdout
Speaker 5: for them to separate themselves and say no, I belong
Speaker 5: in the number, and for coach to get confidence in you.
Speaker 5: And that's how it's broken down. They just go by
Speaker 5: They go name by name, grade by grade, like a
Speaker 5: position by position, and your coach gets a chance to
Speaker 5: speak to on your behalf first, so do you?
Speaker 4: And I can see like, uh, let's say you know
Speaker 4: dB coach out Hares right, he's got his guys and
Speaker 4: he's telling you. And then I can see where coach
Speaker 4: Fossil comes in. He goes, yeah, special teams Like, I'll
Speaker 4: vouch for that.
Speaker 6: I want that.
Speaker 4: Do other guys ever outside of that be like, hey,
Speaker 4: I don't work with him directly, but he's a good
Speaker 4: locker room guy. Or I see this or I see
Speaker 4: this potentials there or they like how do you ever
Speaker 4: have anybody kind of step outside of their lanes?
Speaker 7: Some guys will do that, But you got to be
Speaker 7: a special guy because you don't want to be an
Speaker 7: advocate for a guy. Like when coach the Deep, the Deep,
Speaker 7: the special team coach woke up for Jesse.
Speaker 6: J Yeah he he he knew Jesse was not gonna
Speaker 6: go the next day and get drunk.
Speaker 7: Right, you speak up for a guy the next day
Speaker 7: all big noon, all big Neton just got stopped pull
Speaker 7: over And I don't have two or three guys wide
Speaker 7: receiver coach at hubbled Alexander and the running back coach.
Speaker 7: I can't thank Joe Avazona. They would always speak up
Speaker 7: for me, and then the next day I show up
Speaker 7: but the d W I or something do something silly.
Speaker 6: Then then next time they get ready to stand up.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm serious, like, hey, stop, can we depend
Speaker 7: on this guy. It's got to be a trust factor
Speaker 7: first for when you stand up in the for a guy,
Speaker 7: and then some coaches will come tell you, hey, man,
Speaker 7: I don't need for you to do nothing for the
Speaker 7: next month.
Speaker 6: You don't need to go out for I just put
Speaker 6: my neck call.
Speaker 5: We're laughing.
Speaker 4: Jody did that to me.
Speaker 5: He called me the night before and he said, listen,
Speaker 5: you're like, man, I need you to make me right.
Speaker 5: So I'm like what he goes, I'll see you in
Speaker 5: the morning. And I get there in the morning and
Speaker 5: I'm on the board. I'm on the board starting I'm
Speaker 5: like oh, and he's like make me right. Like you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, like, make me right because something
Speaker 5: there is and there's gonna be some of that meeting's
Speaker 5: gonna be like nah, I don't know about this one.
Speaker 6: I want.
Speaker 5: I want this guy. And that's when you go to like,
Speaker 5: that's when who does who has the head coach's ear?
Speaker 6: Yes, sir? Right is it?
Speaker 5: Because sometimes you'll have.
Speaker 3: Guys that.
Speaker 5: Came with Mike McCarthy. There might be guys he hired
Speaker 5: later on. Yes, you know what I'm saying. So a
Speaker 5: guy that he may have hired later on, he might
Speaker 5: listen to. But I know him for forty years. So
Speaker 5: when he when he says, hey, hey, I go have
Speaker 5: a drink with him up in Cowboys Club and be like, hey,
Speaker 5: I need this guy. And you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: there's that trust factor that's built in. But it comes
Speaker 5: back to the player like, hey, don't don't.
Speaker 7: Don't anything about the coach when they put in an
Speaker 7: extra word for you behind closed over before they.
Speaker 6: Get into the meet, and the coach, God, I just
Speaker 6: had al say the same thing. But you, my boy, right,
Speaker 6: how we gonna work right?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, how we gotta gotta they gotta present it right yeah.
Speaker 5: And and and those are the things that when you're
Speaker 5: talking about, you know, when you try to tell younger players,
Speaker 5: not when I talk to them, because I always try
Speaker 5: to tell them, hey, man, be on time, you know,
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, like, go see coach, stay after practice,
Speaker 5: make sure you're working out in the weight room. All
Speaker 5: that that comes that is in combination of the third
Speaker 5: preseason game when you when your name's on that board
Speaker 5: and they're like, man, the dude late d every damn
Speaker 5: meeting we got, I can't trust them Like that's that
Speaker 5: is the determining factor at times on whether or not
Speaker 5: you make a team, or you go to the practice squad,
Speaker 5: or you get all lot released. Man, I can't trust
Speaker 5: this guy when you all right.
Speaker 4: So this is a little bit off topic, but it's
Speaker 4: it's kind of the same thing. Do you find yourselves
Speaker 4: in your personal lives because your life has been so
Speaker 4: structured and so I have to be here at this time.
Speaker 4: If not, the bus leaves, the plane leaves, I don't
Speaker 4: get to eat, I get kicked out. I locked out
Speaker 4: of a meeting. That that spills over into your personal life,
Speaker 4: and sometimes you hold people to a higher standard than
Speaker 4: my first.
Speaker 7: Ten years with my marriage with Michelle, my first ten years.
Speaker 7: You know, even though I can't show it up hill
Speaker 7: late today, y'all know, y'all will have to show I'll
Speaker 7: be like, hey, fellas, I'm sorry, yeah, you.
Speaker 6: Never show up all the time.
Speaker 4: Me and Jesse different, Yeah, you never show up.
Speaker 6: Now, Jesse would shure up, he would give you a
Speaker 6: time to beat the time. But but over delivery.
Speaker 7: I'm like, and then we my I saw that I
Speaker 7: held myself to that standard. And she's like, okay, he does.
Speaker 7: He you know, he may be and here's joking, but
Speaker 7: he does. And to a certain certain extent, you've seen
Speaker 7: it done enough to you do it right. Most people
Speaker 7: in today's world cannot live up under that stand right,
Speaker 7: So uh, you have to bend a litit. You have
Speaker 7: to be like, Okay, you have to tell yourself to relax.
Speaker 7: This is in the locker room.
Speaker 5: But honestly, I'm I'm I'm better mentally when my things
Speaker 5: are planned out.
Speaker 6: Like a football schedule, thank you.
Speaker 5: Like I need to know stick to I need to know, like,
Speaker 5: all right, Thursday, I got this, this, this, this, this, this,
Speaker 5: this and this, Like I need to know if things
Speaker 5: are things are too much.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't fly by the seat of my pants every day.
Speaker 5: I pretty much know what I got going on each
Speaker 5: and every day, what time I I give myself time
Speaker 5: to get there, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: If I'm it's like I would have I would be
Speaker 5: mentally terrible if everything was just all over the bright.
Speaker 4: But when you but you're like that, so you you
Speaker 4: like the structure and you like you know, especially time,
Speaker 4: like time. I used to not be on time until
Speaker 4: I started working here, and then it's like you get
Speaker 4: and then even when you leave here, it's like that's
Speaker 4: one big thing. I tell you I'm gonna be somewhere,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be there, right and if I'm not, there's
Speaker 4: there's a good reason. But and then I find myself
Speaker 4: getting super frustrated when people don't do the same thing,
Speaker 4: and I take it personal because it's like it's almost
Speaker 4: like it's a slap in my face. You don't respect
Speaker 4: my time.
Speaker 5: I'll give you a funny story. Good friend of mine,
Speaker 5: Senecal Wallace, play quarterback in the league for a long time. Seattle, Seattle,
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Iowa State played colleball, I State, Seattle everywhere.
Speaker 5: Mike home run when he went really good friend of mine,
Speaker 5: we were having It's a pizza place off of like Greenville,
Speaker 5: down the street from the porch. That restaurant. It's on
Speaker 5: the right hand side something like that, or somewhere we
Speaker 5: will have pizza. He was like an hour late. This
Speaker 5: is seven years ago. You can I can call Cinneca
Speaker 5: right now. We've never had dinner again.
Speaker 4: Wow, because that one time.
Speaker 5: Because of that one time, no call, no nothing. I'm
Speaker 5: sitting there at this big old table. It's both to
Speaker 5: be about four or five of us, and he brings
Speaker 5: the fold. I'm sitting here her and like he hit
Speaker 5: me up like two three hours later. Hey, bro, when
Speaker 5: you got the table. I won't tell you what I said,
Speaker 5: but it was along the lines of and you gotta
Speaker 5: be kidding. I'm good, I'm good. And we laugh and
Speaker 5: talk about it.
Speaker 6: Today.
Speaker 5: He and I have not yet had lunch, dinner, nothing,
Speaker 5: because of that that ruined you.
Speaker 6: That's it. Can I break this right quickly because I
Speaker 6: think you're like this. Yes, and I know you'll like
Speaker 6: it too.
Speaker 7: Sure, Uh Mary and Barber Tonight his due comes on
Speaker 7: at seven. I don't know if you already did. Yes, yes,
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Speaker 7: so you know.
Speaker 5: It'll be on dot com, it'll be on YouTube, and
Speaker 5: I think Saturday is gonna be on c W eleven yeah,
Speaker 5: I want to say.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, I just I didn't want to you know, no,
Speaker 7: I was, I was gonna good tonight.
Speaker 4: At seventh Central and you're in it.
Speaker 6: Jesse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you get to see uh he
Speaker 6: changed his name again back to Jesse.
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Speaker 5: I've seen some clips, so you know, it's it's it's
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Speaker 4: We gotta watch that. Yeah, all right, let's take our
Speaker 4: last break. When we come back, we'll talk a little
Speaker 4: more football on Hanging with the Boys.
Speaker 6: Be right back.
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the final segment of Hanging with the Boys,
Speaker 4: brought to you each at every show by Jigsaw, the
Speaker 4: proud dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys. All right, let's
Speaker 4: talk a little bit about what we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the final practice was yesterday in Ox
Speaker 4: No Hard and it seemed like it was a a
Speaker 4: little feisty, little skirmishy and it sounded like the players
Speaker 4: are we're kind of I don't know, kind of amped
Speaker 4: up about ending on a ending on a I guess
Speaker 4: with some energy maybe or are they just tired? Or
Speaker 4: what did you guys get out of that?
Speaker 8: Is that?
Speaker 6: Is that normal?
Speaker 4: Is that good thing?
Speaker 6: Is that bad thing? Not for us? Now?
Speaker 7: You know, we never by the end of by the
Speaker 7: end of the training camp of six weeks of hitting
Speaker 7: each other, we weren't trying to hit each other last day.
Speaker 6: Maybe they just wanted to hit something, you know. I
Speaker 6: don't know what you think.
Speaker 5: Yes, I think it's it's one of those they got chippy,
Speaker 5: you got We're tired of each other. I'm ready to
Speaker 5: go home. Lights at the end of the tunnel. My
Speaker 5: bags are already packed, the planes already gassed up. Like
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. It's like, bro, don't hit
Speaker 5: me no more. Like you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 5: don't don't, don't don't do that. Like we're done. We're
Speaker 5: done here and let's just go home. So I think
Speaker 5: it's more so just ready to I'm ready back.
Speaker 6: I'm ready to.
Speaker 4: Speaking of Monday, Monday and Tuesday. Here is practice?
Speaker 6: Is that right?
Speaker 5: Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday?
Speaker 4: We are we are Monday Wednesday on our show, I.
Speaker 5: Think Monday and Tuesday because we got do some things
Speaker 5: on Tuesday, So.
Speaker 4: We'll be we'll be one o'clock next week on Monday
Speaker 4: and Tuesday, and then the following week. Our first daily
Speaker 4: show will be the Tuesday after Labor Day, and I
Speaker 4: believe we're gonna be at one o'clock.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's every day.
Speaker 4: Every day after Labor Day.
Speaker 5: So, but how do you feel about the the Lennonville
Speaker 5: Joseph signing?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Man, and is that any is that any indicator?
Speaker 6: Yeah? That guy?
Speaker 7: Yes, that guy you're talking about? It so inconsistent. If
Speaker 7: y'all know who were talking about listen to Jesse podcast.
Speaker 7: Know it's two guys names, it's two guys names. I
Speaker 7: do not want to say. He's a quarterback and he's
Speaker 7: a number one technique for the cow but I'm tired
Speaker 7: of those names. One guy, the number one pick of
Speaker 7: last year, has been highly inconsistent.
Speaker 4: Did he just Bill Parson?
Speaker 7: You know he's been highly inconsistent. I've seen got his
Speaker 7: teammates wanted more than he does, his coaches wanted more
Speaker 7: than he does.
Speaker 6: When when you do individuals drills and you see players
Speaker 6: come on let's go. Let's go. Oh man, way to go.
Speaker 7: When you see coaches, Hey man, let's go get it
Speaker 7: in gear. Come on picking up and calling this guy's name. No, no, man,
Speaker 7: the light has to come on. Now, we go out
Speaker 7: and get Jordan Phillips. We go out and get uh
Speaker 7: was supposed to be getting uh mister Joseph in here
Speaker 7: any day. That's the word that is out. Uh we
Speaker 7: we we we We're thinking about Chauncey coming down into
Speaker 7: that three technique. You know, we knew he was coming
Speaker 7: down the three technique for his past rush situations and
Speaker 7: rushing the pastor but.
Speaker 6: Now we gotta you know, it's just they are doing everything.
Speaker 6: I'm from.
Speaker 7: We They are doing everything to say, please, sir, be
Speaker 7: a serviceable player. We we can't be a team with
Speaker 7: quality now, so we're gonna do do it with quantity.
Speaker 7: We're gonna have a bunch of older guys hoping they
Speaker 7: can give us twenty twenty five reps a game. That's
Speaker 7: what we're trying to do it with instead of having
Speaker 7: that stud guy that'll give us, you know them thirty
Speaker 7: forty reps, solid rundown reps. He's not showed up yet.
Speaker 7: So one way or another. They trying to get it done.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, another interesting thing that you don't you don't see
Speaker 4: a lot, especially this time of year, is a inter
Speaker 4: division trade, especially at skill positions. Dotson went to Johan
Speaker 4: Dotson Philadelphia? Was that today or yesterday?
Speaker 5: Today? He went from Johan Dotson receiver from the Washington Commanders,
Speaker 5: headed up to Philadelphia.
Speaker 4: That's a scary wide receiver group.
Speaker 5: It's it's on brand for Kellen Moore. Think Cedric Milson, right,
Speaker 5: Like Kellen Moore's offense is a vertical offense.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: I got a J Brown, I got Davonte Smith, I
Speaker 5: got was Dallas Schollard my tight end. And now I
Speaker 5: add this other piece in there. I had that slot
Speaker 5: piece in there. Right, I'm sending these guys up the
Speaker 5: field because what now, Sades can't come sit in the box.
Speaker 5: Why because I'm threatening you vertically down the field and
Speaker 5: guess he's in the back four And guess who was
Speaker 5: in the backfield.
Speaker 4: I tell you what if?
Speaker 6: And I tell you this is Kellen's year. I bet.
Speaker 5: I just hope that he I hope that he hasn't
Speaker 5: figured it out yet because the thing about Kellen, and
Speaker 5: we've always said this. He's had a good collection of plays.
Speaker 5: The offenses that he's been around has run well. It's
Speaker 5: just he's never had a system to He never knew
Speaker 5: where to go with the players when it was time
Speaker 5: for the plays.
Speaker 6: To be had. He's not a close out coach, and
Speaker 6: so I'm hoping.
Speaker 5: That his time here it didn't click the Chargers, that
Speaker 5: it didn't click, that they didn't get the Philly all
Speaker 5: of a sudden. Now he's like, aha, eureka, I know
Speaker 5: how to set plays up in the first quarter. That's
Speaker 5: gonna help me out in the fourth quarter. Because if
Speaker 5: that happens with like with that lineup, it could be
Speaker 5: trouble for the It could be trouble for the division.
Speaker 7: If he used mister Barkley the way he's supposed to,
Speaker 7: how you're gonna stop him. I'm just banking that he
Speaker 7: gonna get sewing in awe of his offense, that he
Speaker 7: gonna let's just keep throwing it.
Speaker 4: If they use him like like like the history in
Speaker 4: Philly has used their running backs in space and in
Speaker 4: the passing game, and the swing passes can be it's
Speaker 4: gonna be scary. What do you get We'll talk, We'll
Speaker 4: get into this next week. But how do you feel
Speaker 4: about the division? You think it's a two team races
Speaker 4: in Philly? And does it does it come down to
Speaker 4: how well Dak and Jalen Hurts play.
Speaker 7: Just asked me about four or five games in after
Speaker 7: I see how I left tacking center.
Speaker 6: Asked me that I'm serious, because so.
Speaker 4: You're not going in this season going good.
Speaker 6: We're good.
Speaker 4: We're good.
Speaker 5: Philly gotta replace some lineman too. Yeah, like they lost
Speaker 5: the center, their best offensive linement.
Speaker 7: Centeray, they tried that uh tous push during the pre
Speaker 7: sson ain't work eighty percent.
Speaker 6: It ain't the time.
Speaker 7: But that Barkner kid, I've always loved it and I
Speaker 7: was so happy it was in New York with that
Speaker 7: bomb line.
Speaker 4: Now I think get some people block for it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and now you add Jalen Hurts his ability to
Speaker 5: run as well as passed. So it's it's a two
Speaker 5: team race. I think Washington will be better, but I
Speaker 5: think they aren't ready to take the next step.
Speaker 6: Because they got a lot of new players. They got
Speaker 6: the core defensive guys, but they got a lot of
Speaker 6: new players.
Speaker 4: What do you think about the quarterback there Daniels, now
Speaker 4: that he's named the starter.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know about him. I've never been a
Speaker 5: fan of the athlete playing quarterback. I just hasn't. I
Speaker 5: just maybe it's the receiver in me, because you want
Speaker 5: to think about running before you think about throwing the ball.
Speaker 5: But and maybe it works, Maybe it will work. I
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 7: He's coming out of Order Dame system. You know, he
Speaker 7: coming out of LSU kid, right, Joe, Yeah, he coming
Speaker 7: out with it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: I came to call the coach name, but I think
Speaker 7: it was that Ordon name all time. But he could
Speaker 7: be different man.
Speaker 6: This year here.
Speaker 7: And I can't call quarterbacks like you guys can, but
Speaker 7: I think this year here, teams are going to help
Speaker 7: their quarterbacks more by running and play action past. I
Speaker 7: just think the coaches are getting smart, like, yes, this
Speaker 7: kid is a great athlete, but let's not kill him.
Speaker 7: Let's not hurt him up. You know, like we did
Speaker 7: the kid in Washington even though he was not a
Speaker 7: first round pick. But they killed the kid in Washington
Speaker 7: last year. Tell yeah, they did him wrong. They they
Speaker 7: whooped up on how Yeah that was not fair.
Speaker 6: It's not fair.
Speaker 4: Ones that do it right had gotten some good results.
Speaker 4: Ones that hadn't done it right, like Washington Carolina.
Speaker 6: Just beat the kid up.
Speaker 5: I think, what, well, what will make Washington difficult is
Speaker 5: dan Quinn knows us right, like he knows the intimate
Speaker 5: parts of who the Cowboys are.
Speaker 6: You don't like that. It's just it's just too soft
Speaker 6: football knows.
Speaker 5: He knows the inner workings, you know the vision, you
Speaker 5: know the work, what the cowboys.
Speaker 6: That you know?
Speaker 7: And uh and they're o c But you know his
Speaker 7: history though, right, all of his old guys that used
Speaker 7: to play against damn whooped there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we keep but we don't have but we don't
Speaker 5: have any of his old coaches. He was just a coaching.
Speaker 5: We don't have any of his old coaches. All me
Speaker 5: ol Harrison.
Speaker 7: But that's parsonally get sentimentally not killing. He'll kill him
Speaker 7: just because he did to take you with him.
Speaker 5: Glad you mentioned that name. We'll talk about this next week.
Speaker 5: Interesting article that came out about Michael Parsons and it's
Speaker 5: quested this offseason for leadership, you.
Speaker 6: Can talk some great people. I read that folks didn't.
Speaker 5: I just hope that people's policies were allowed as as
Speaker 5: loud as the disrespect was towards.
Speaker 4: Make sure you bring that up on me. Make sure
Speaker 4: you bring that up on Monday when we're in here.
Speaker 5: I mean it talks a lot of you had an
Speaker 5: article ready for me out he's gonna print it out.
Speaker 4: I like to tell him go ahead and highlighted and yeah.
Speaker 5: He talks on a lot of things that people call
Speaker 5: me a liar about.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 7: Let him know.
Speaker 5: I know who you are. Make receipts. Make sure your
Speaker 5: energy is the same.
Speaker 4: You got screenshots.
Speaker 5: They know who they are.
Speaker 4: Well, Fellas hits that time. It's time to get out
Speaker 4: of here.
Speaker 6: Backup.
Speaker 5: You want a practice squad.
Speaker 4: Before he goes home. He can be talking to himself
Speaker 4: in the car Monday one o'clock, Wednesday one o'clock. Then
Speaker 4: the following week we will be here daily. You get
Speaker 4: your feel of hanging with the boys.
Speaker 5: Salt Pepper, Poppy Baby, good seeing it, Jass, good seeing you,
Speaker 5: Nay Jazz.
Speaker 4: Thanks for holding it down, my man, Josh. We forgot
Speaker 4: to mention him the last few days. Is he gonna
Speaker 4: be hosted when he comes back?
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, he won't be hosting, but he will be
Speaker 7: a part of a podcast. They I don't know if
Speaker 7: it's hosting skills as good as your.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, No doubt you can come
Speaker 5: over here, Josh. If you want to learn something, come
Speaker 5: sitting with us. Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Kirby, glad to sit one out on the sidelines and
Speaker 4: once in a while you can be Jesse's boy.
Speaker 5: Nah, I got one boy that.
Speaker 4: We got to get an update on the curtains. By
Speaker 4: the way, is that a Sammy Hagar concert tonight?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we gotta get it up.
Speaker 6: Huh.
Speaker 5: I don't know one song for van.
Speaker 6: Halen van Running with the Devil.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he replaced you know that song I Can't Drive
Speaker 4: fifty five play a.
Speaker 5: Huge on my theme song before I found the Lord,
Speaker 5: Running with the Devil.
Speaker 6: With this devil.
Speaker 4: We'll be back by day one o'clock.
Speaker 6: To Heaven with him. We are.
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