1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: World headquarters. 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: At the Star. 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Barry Church, Hecma Harrison, and NEWI Scrugs. 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: Here we are. It is Tuesday. 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 4: Everybody in the day after Mondaday had Football's the Dallas 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 4: Cowboys Cincinnati Bengals got together in Cherry World and we 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 4: are hit to chat about with you. It's Players Lounge, 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 4: brought to you by Aristocrat Gaming. That is Heck Maharrison 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 4: inviting me to come on in the Cowboys Safety. It's 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 4: on the team of Barry Church and the Yeah, tell 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 4: us some special teams, NEWI Scrugs and Peter. 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: Wait, so let's just hit it right there. Okay, the 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: game twenty block the punt. 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 4: And when you say Peter, because you play college football 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 4: at the highest level, so explain it. Because it is 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 4: in college football, it is in professional football. 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: What Peter means. 22 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 5: It means get the hell away. That's what it means. 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 5: When you hear Peter. It means, no matter what you do, 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 5: you see ball near, you do not touch it. 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: Get away. Peter. 26 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 5: That is as universal a word as you could ever 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 5: hear on a football field. I don't care on what 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 5: level you hear it. Peter get Away. And that was 29 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 5: the heartbreak though. The heartbreak of that game was you 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 5: missed every opportunity to possibly win it outright. Initially offensively, 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 5: you struggle, but it came down to a special teams play. 32 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 5: Now we know today that there was no such block. 33 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 5: It wasn't a block called missed assignment. You come through 34 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 5: Scott Free, you make a block, you do, you make 35 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 5: a play. 36 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: That's just what you're doing. There's no thinking about that, 37 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: all right. 38 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 5: But the rules state tip ball goes past line of scrimmage. 39 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 2: It is what lie. 40 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 5: Is it live? 41 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: It's five. 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 5: And the thing is like, to me, I don't insult 43 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 5: nobody's intelligence that plays in the National Football League. I 44 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 5: won't because I believe you know, the rule ain't no 45 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 5: what it is, no way, there's no way you go 46 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 5: out there and you play. And in that situation that 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 5: you did not have situational awareness to know that if 48 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 5: you touch this ball, what was going to ensue from 49 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 5: that moment for somebody made a bone headed play. Barry Church, Yeah, man, 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 5: it was it was bone headed, and I refuse to 51 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 5: believe that bone's fossil didn't go through this in camp 52 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 5: ot as practices where even if you get a block, 53 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 5: tip tip the ball block and it goes past the 54 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 5: line of scrimmage. That's, like you said, that's on all levels, 55 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 5: high school, college pros. Literally you saying, Peter, don't touch 56 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 5: the football because there's nothing that good can come out 57 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 5: of that. Nothing good can come out of you touching 58 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 5: the football once it's blocked and it goes past the 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 5: line of scrimmage. 60 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: All the punt team can do is down it the glory. 61 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: That's all they can do is down the ball. There's 62 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 2: no reason for you to touch. 63 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 6: That glory and that unless unless there's no one near you, 64 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 6: you're twenty yards away from everybody, and your name is 65 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 6: come oft the turpid, then you can touch the football 66 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 6: and pick it up. 67 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 5: Other than that, let that thing go. But we've seen it. 68 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 5: This ain't the first time. No, it's not with the 69 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys that we've seen special teams say you know what, 70 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 5: I'm gonna put this on my shoulders. This is my opportunity, right, 71 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 5: I could do I could do it. I believe believe 72 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 5: in me. I know we got an offense. I know 73 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 5: we got a defense, but you know what special teams. 74 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 5: We're gonna hold it down right here? Ye ain't Thomas? 75 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: I believe I. 76 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 5: Saw a look, got the look, got the look. I'm 77 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 5: gonna go ahead call this. We're gonna do a pass 78 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 5: on the word was activated? Activate, got activate look activated? 79 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 5: He saw the look? So is he activated? Another opportunity? Washington. 80 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 5: A couple of weeks ago, all you had to catch 81 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 5: security on side, can get down, game over? 82 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: You know what? This is my turn. I got the 83 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: ball tucked high and tight. I'm out of here. I'm 84 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: going for a touchdown. That's another number, and then and 85 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: then this time, and I feel. 86 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,119 Speaker 5: So bad for my guy. I don't want to butcher 87 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 5: his name all over. Ala Wari, Halla Wari. I don't 88 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 5: want to Ali Wari. Come on, man, what did you 89 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 5: think was gonna happen? You gonna you gonna Scooper score? 90 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 5: Make a couple of guys miss high step into the 91 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 5: end zone. 92 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: Because this is an issue. 93 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 4: And they said it good on the Dallas Cowboys broadcast 94 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 4: and they were talking about something else, but Babe Loockpers said, 95 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 4: problems you can fix issues are not fixable. 96 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 2: We have special teams issues. As you look at this 97 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: whole season. 98 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 4: And when I saw the play, I posted on social media. 99 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 4: This is how bad teams get beat. What have we 100 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 4: seen about the Kansas City Chiefs the last month? 101 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: They keep fighting. 102 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 5: That's what good teams. They don't beat themselves. 103 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 4: That's what a super Bowl team is. We're gonna figure 104 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 4: it out. You know, it ain't looking good, but we're 105 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 4: gonna sneak out of the bear trap. You too young 106 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: to remember this, but back in the day, remember the 107 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 4: Boston Celtic's always found some kind of way to win 108 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 4: a game. Larry Birds and DJ just right here, like 109 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 4: god it again, don't come on it. That's what they do. 110 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 4: Just hate Duke basketball still do by the way and win. 111 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 4: That's what they do. That's what the good teams do. 112 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 4: I'm doug on it. Pittsburgh Steelers, Patriots Super fourteen, like 113 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 4: they going down. They're going down to the rams and 114 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: you know what, boom snuck out of it. Next thing 115 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 4: you Star Wars. The good ones do that. The bad 116 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 4: ones do this last night. So that's what happened when 117 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 4: I saw the punt block, and then okay, It's not 118 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 4: just the block the punt and then you touch it 119 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: and then they get the ball back. 120 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: It's the forty touchdown passed. 121 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 5: I was give it. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, 122 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 5: Wait a minute, wait a minute. Now I got to 123 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 5: ask this question because I know your man is the 124 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 5: one out in LA, but yesterday you had a front 125 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 5: row seat to actually see Joe Burrow. We've had this 126 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,559 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow discussion on this show several times. Barry Church 127 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: after actually seeing the surgery with no anesthesia that was 128 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 5: performed yesterday. 129 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: But Joe Burrow, what say you? What say you up about? 130 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: Cool Joe? Not Joe cool cool Joe. 131 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 5: He's unreal. Yeah, he's the way he was. Michael Parsons 132 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 5: and them dudes was breathing down. 133 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 2: His back the entire game. 134 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 5: This man had As soon as he snapped the ball, 135 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 5: I gotta make something move And it wasn't like he 136 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 5: was scrambling the way he manipulated. 137 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: The pocket and was able to step up. 138 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 5: And I know number ones down there somewhere, and the 139 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 5: how many comebacks can you get beat? 140 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 7: Then? 141 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: Come on, man, look at the time you look, but 142 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: I need you to go further. It's not just that Okay, 143 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: it's not just the comebacks. Man, you have been here. 144 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: We've been preaching Borough for years. Okay, But what I 145 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: want to hear you say is after you saw it live. Yeah, yeah, 146 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: for sure and in person. Yeah, that Joe Burrow is 147 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 4: better than Justin Herbert. That's what I need you to see. 148 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: I say that, but I mean he's unreal. Come on 149 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 5: in a man's five and eight, man, come on that. Okay, 150 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 5: best receiver with that offensive line with no coaching. We 151 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 5: seen them do it before. 152 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: Man took them to a Super Bowl three years and 153 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: had the ball. 154 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 4: In his hands going down the field until the old 155 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 4: line got exposed and somebody they decided that Aaron Donald 156 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 4: wasn't worth double team. 157 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: I don't know who did that. Joe Burrow is elite. 158 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert is good. Joe Burrow is Burrow is elite. 159 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 5: Let me just say, let me let me say that 160 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 5: I leave because I'm not gonna open that. I'm not 161 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 5: gonna argue with you because I know how you, I 162 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 5: know how your loyalty flows, so I'm not gonna do 163 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 5: that to the show. 164 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this. 165 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 5: You can't no, no, no, no, if the if the 166 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 5: Bengals defense was twenty percent better. The Bengals would be 167 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 5: a problem today in the AFC. 168 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: All right, they'd be back in the super Bowl again. 169 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, based off, based off of what I 170 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 5: see with Joe Burrow in Cincinnati. There there are two 171 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 5: great quarterbacks in the NFL. Joe Burrow is one of them, 172 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 5: and the other guy you can't even argue with. Just 173 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 5: I'm sitting out there watching, I'm telling my son. With 174 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 5: me and my son, we're at the game, and I 175 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 5: took his phone, give me your phone, but I put 176 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 5: this one. 177 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: You need to see this right, This is surgery. 178 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 8: Son. 179 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 2: Do you see this? He throwing the ball. He's throwing 180 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 2: the ball. 181 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 5: Before the receiver even comes out of his break and 182 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 5: make you ask yourself, what the hell who are he 183 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 5: throwing to? And in this industry we try and put 184 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 5: cumps together all the time. 185 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: Who is the COUMP for this guy? 186 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 7: Is it? 187 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: This guy isn't? 188 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 5: There is no there's no one to compare. And you 189 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 5: be doing yourself disservice to all those greats as well, 190 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 5: because this young man is absolutely off the charts when 191 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 5: it comes down to arm strength, his ability to maneuver 192 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 5: the pocket, uh, throwing on the run, throwing state, I 193 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 5: mean stationary, all of that his receivers. 194 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: If I'm a receiver in the national. 195 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 5: In college, I pray to God that you come to 196 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 5: the to the podium and tell me to go to Cincinnati, 197 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 5: then I'm going because of the way, I mean Yoshi 198 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 5: or whoever the Yoshi vash see, Higgins. 199 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: Left a lot of food on his plate. Did he 200 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: even get a catch? He did? But how many did 201 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 2: he drop? 202 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 4: This is what I've always found interesting about Joe Burrow. 203 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 4: How good were those practices that Dwayne Haskins beat him 204 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: out at Ohio? 205 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god? How what was that like? 206 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 4: Is they were going in practice and just like yeah, bruh, 207 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 4: you're good. But but we going with him? And you know, 208 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 4: Haskins was at Ohio's date. I forget what prose Ohio 209 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 4: State was putting it on. So nobody was like, hey man, 210 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 4: you know Joe Burrow left. Nobody cried he have a 211 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 4: right up on it. It was just it was just 212 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow. 213 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 7: L s U. 214 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: Now, so did they bring up this? Uh? My buddy 215 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: was coaching in Texas. 216 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: He was dB coach in Texas when LSU went down 217 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 4: there at Austin. They played a great game, okay, bothing 218 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: back and forth, and so Pace tells me the next day, 219 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: like in the film session charm Hermit just killing them all, gosh. 220 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: Ain't no good, no coaching, just wanting to bench fla me. 221 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: He just all of it. And my boy did he 222 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: because hey, man, they're good. This dude is I mean, he's. 223 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 4: Just addressing him, going crazy, and he's like, those are 224 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 4: NFL guys, and lo and behold the end of the 225 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 4: year average fifty, you know, arguably the greatest offensive football 226 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 4: team of all time. 227 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 2: Burrow wins the Heisman, you know, chases chases. 228 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 9: The first Jeffers so fair think about running back is 229 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 9: the first round and Dom Herman went out there and 230 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 9: just killed my boy to dB coach mad as hell 231 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 9: at him and he's and he's. 232 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 4: Literally, they're good, man, This was a really good team. 233 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 4: Like they're going to do this all year long. And 234 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 4: then come to find out, ya, Herman got. 235 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: They did to all pro corners yesterday, all Pro Pro 236 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: Bowl good players. These are all. 237 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 5: Pro And you, as a former defensive back, you look 238 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 5: at the job that Digs and Bland and Lewis did. 239 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: They was fighting to the right. 240 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 4: There the ball place, the wide receiver pack tipped to 241 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: the defense man was there, and they could have got 242 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 4: to fifty every time. 243 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 5: Hold it out there you see arms rubbing over it, 244 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 5: just holding out step out of bounds. 245 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 4: The first you tell me when you saw the first touchdown, 246 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 4: I said to myself, he's just good. The Chase is 247 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: just good. It's and obviously you know because you were 248 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: an NFL dB. Hey man, sometimes it's just man that 249 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 4: he's just good. It's kind of like, you know, hey, 250 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 4: you put all this defense on Jordan, Oh, Michael, okay, whatever, 251 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 4: Nothing I could do. 252 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: He just good. Ball placement is there. It's accurate, like 253 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: a Treitman football. It is accurate. He's Jamar Chase. 254 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 4: He just there's nothing digs like I'm not looking at 255 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: these like, oh man, you stink no, no, that that's 256 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 4: this is what great And we don't see we actually 257 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 4: maybe the worst elite because this is like you you know, 258 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 4: you top three, like you chas is it there? You 259 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 4: can't he there cowboys at all. They could do Mike 260 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 4: Zimmers even they did their job, But at. 261 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: What point are you gonna double the man? Like that's 262 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: what we say. We did all he could do. Man, 263 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: you it was blind. 264 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 5: I understand they're all pros and they got to suit 265 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 5: up to the challenge. 266 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 2: I get it, But. 267 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 5: At what point are you like, man, look one underneath 268 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 5: one over top. We're playing nine on the level because 269 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 5: nobody else was doing anything. Yoshi put a couple of 270 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 5: catches here and there. See Higgins ain't had nothing. Like, 271 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 5: At what point. 272 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: Are you saying, you know what, this dude is unstoppable. 273 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 5: We're gonna put a corner right underneath them at a 274 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 5: safety on top because I'm looking, at what point? At 275 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 5: one point you gotta treat this man like this dude 276 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 5: is like mass out here right now to us, Like, 277 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 5: y'all see that y'all was there? 278 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy in Texas. 279 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 5: Second, at what point are you like cause the game 280 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 5: win the forty yarders? 281 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: It was blad in Chase, but because when he missed 282 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: that tackle, there was nobody else over there. You at 283 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: what point are you like? You know prior to side boy, 284 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: you get double team. 285 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 5: I don't care if the corners are they're saying, I 286 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 5: want this, I want going to You don't want this challenge, 287 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 5: you don't want to come on over. I'd have been like, 288 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 5: I'm on top, bro, yeah out here what you say? 289 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 2: You're right? 290 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 4: I still think that defense like that was enough. They 291 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 4: did enough, like a defense, the defense they did. The offense, 292 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 4: the play calling, that's your issue there. Let's get a 293 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 4: break break. We can talk about the offense and the 294 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: play calling. 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Heck, you had Dallas twenty 358 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 4: four to seventeen. 359 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: Sh I was right there, right right there, waiting. I 360 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: had ready ann to put out. He was like he 361 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 2: turn on the store about here. 362 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 5: He was getting Walter White out there. Boy, y'all was nervous. 363 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 5: Y'all was nervous. Was nervous, double thud like. I was like, Oh, 364 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 5: they're really about to. 365 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: Chase going in there? God him, so. 366 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 5: Come back over. I was with Michael second, let get 367 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 5: out of here. He was from out of here. 368 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 4: Friday year, Yes, Friday, put Michael from out of here. 369 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 5: Man came, I've done that in the park a couple 370 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 5: of times. Take my body, Goren. I don't know how 371 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 5: you're gonna play, but I'm gone, I'll go to leave it. 372 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 5: We did our NFA picks. I missed two games last week. 373 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 5: Wrong on Arizona Seattle because I took Arizona and I 374 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 5: took took Josh Allen and lost in that RAM game. 375 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: I think I tooked und Church. 376 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: You took the Rams, but you were wrong because you 377 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 4: took the charges over Kansas City. 378 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: And you took call of duty and you lost the game. 379 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 4: Heck, but you were rolling, but then you picked Buffalo 380 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 4: as well, and then you picked the Cowboys, so we 381 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 4: both lost two games. 382 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: I was rolling, well, I went with my hearts. I 383 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: ain't doing They didn't put me all the way to 384 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: the edge. The Bengals are who we thought they were. 385 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: Let them out the hook. 386 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 5: One play away, one play away had it one. After 387 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 5: all of that, after all of that, after all of that, 388 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 5: Joe bro were talking about Jamar Chase, after all of 389 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 5: that surgery, after all of that, after my man, Cooper 390 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 5: Rush is disappearing. 391 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: He was off fault. He was bad. He was bad. 392 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 2: The first drive. 393 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 5: I was like, you know what, he make it look 394 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 5: a little easy. Look he was missing wide open. You 395 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 5: were there, you didn't get the TV copy. You was 396 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 5: watching it, like, yo, he's missing. He's comming. I mean 397 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 5: strength man, like you saw his balls just kind of fluttering. 398 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 2: There's no like zip, y'all see it, there's no zip 399 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: to it. Off. 400 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 5: He could have had about three picks, yes, yes, that 401 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 5: and the one in the on the gold in the 402 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 5: red zone. I mean four bangles over there. I had 403 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 5: a chance at it. 404 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: Let's have let's have a quick conversation about let's do it. 405 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 4: He's a free agent. 406 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 5: After I said, man, he's a solid back, like he's 407 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 5: one of he gotta be one of the top backups 408 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 5: international Football League. 409 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: If you if he's not. 410 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 5: A guy that's gonna come in and save your season 411 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 5: like we saw obviously this year, but spot duty, he 412 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 5: can come and get you a victory or two or three. 413 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 5: So I think he's a decent backup. You know, he's 414 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 5: just not a guy that can be the franchise. 415 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 4: Last night, he needed him to be better and he wasn't. 416 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 4: He needed you needed this and this was this was 417 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 4: a bad defense. 418 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: Now, thank you. 419 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 5: That's the point. Okay, that's the point. It's not we 420 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 5: don't ask you to do this versus Baltimore. We're not 421 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 5: asking you to I mean, this is a they were gettable. 422 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 5: They were gettable and and oh my God, you running. 423 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: Rico Dattle was going crazy? What eighteen one thirty one 424 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: for Rico? Are you kidding? 425 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 5: We were talking about balance, We were talking about balance 426 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 5: all last week. How this could you couldn't get into 427 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 5: a shootout. You maintained according to script, you did everything 428 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 5: that you needed to do. What happens too late in 429 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 5: the game where you come out and you blunder those possessions. 430 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: Cooper was all you was offul Man. He couldn't hit, 431 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: he couldn't hit nothing. He was awful. 432 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 5: I'll get he was awful, you know, and in a 433 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 5: backup situation, but he's a backup quarterback. And at the 434 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 5: end of the day, it was a blunder on specialty. 435 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 5: You know, if Ala wal don't go in there and 436 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 5: try to be Superman. 437 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: But you're both correct. 438 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 4: Okay, you're correct about the punt and heck's correct about 439 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 4: you was awful, Coop us. This is a bad defense 440 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: and so this is this is where you're supposed to 441 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 4: get this done against a bad defense. 442 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: And if you can't do it here, are you going 443 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 2: to keep investing in this or do you. 444 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 4: Decide to go look at what else where else can 445 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 4: we go and try to improve on this. 446 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: Now, I'm with you. I'm with you. 447 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 4: I'm not saying Trey Lance is the answer. But at 448 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 4: some point in time, now this thing is done. You're 449 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 4: five and eight. 450 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: Thus wrap. 451 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 4: So so as you start to look at twenty five, 452 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 4: how are you going to Jerry talked about when he's 453 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 4: still trying to stick a rush? 454 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: But for what? Right for who? For what? For who? 455 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: For what? 456 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 4: I mean, figure out what what do you have so 457 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 4: you can do something with this position. But you just 458 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 4: did not see enough. This is a bad football team defensively, 459 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 4: the Bengals were bad defense. 460 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: Man. 461 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta be able, like you said, you gotta 462 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 5: be able to take advantage. 463 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 2: And I feel like man. 464 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 5: Because McCarthy, I feel like he was pushing or dialing 465 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 5: the right buttons out there. I mean, play call was shaky. 466 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 5: But the run game, they had a balance attack. You 467 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 5: Rico got his fill out there. I think he had 468 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 5: like a buck thirty something on the ground or it 469 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 5: was a balanced attack. Cooper, he just he didn't have 470 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 5: his best game. He did not have his best game 471 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 5: by far. But I feel like they did enough offensively 472 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 5: and defensively against a team like the Bengals. 473 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 2: That's averaging thirty some points a game. 474 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 5: You hold them until that last chase, you hold them 475 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 5: to twenty points. 476 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: You go in there and get the block specialty. But 477 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: go back to what Happen has been saying throughout the game. 478 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 4: If Cooper Rush is able to take some advantage of 479 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 4: some of these opportunities. 480 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: You're not even in this game. You're not even. 481 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 5: It's not as close as it is because you're driving 482 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 5: on this defense, You're you're moving up and down the field. 483 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 5: You're just not able in points out the ball. Yeah, 484 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 5: stab yourself, you know, because you you put yourself in 485 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 5: a position where you cost him. And I think any 486 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 5: quarterback where this salt understands ball security when you get 487 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 5: down to the red zone is foremost not that it 488 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 5: isn't the whole game, but especially in those situations but 489 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 5: late in the game. And that's why, like for Mike McCarthy, 490 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 5: I'm just like, you can't separate him from the office 491 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 5: because he's the play caller. 492 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: He's the play caller. So when you're the play call. 493 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 5: In that situation, and we had to go back to 494 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 5: these decisions where your office is struggling, but you're still 495 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 5: throwing the ball, Like come on, Mike, I understand. 496 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I could feel that the add of pressure. 497 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 5: Even when the roof was open, I could still feel 498 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 5: the pressure that you was under. But come on, now, 499 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 5: turn and hand that ball to Rico Dalo because he's 500 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 5: rewarding you. Our offensive line is a makeshift offensive line. 501 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 5: Cooper BB goes out with the concussion in the first half, 502 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 5: and he was having a hell of a game. Brock Hoffman, 503 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 5: for all the titles and everything that they put on 504 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 5: him trying to build him up, dude, dude comes in 505 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 5: and plays center and does it. Still does a damn 506 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 5: good job and playing the center position, and still your 507 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 5: offense is rolling. But in those moments right there, we 508 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 5: asked the best of the best. I asked you, I said, man, 509 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 5: what is it why you can't why you can't hook 510 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 5: your kaboos to this coaching staff. He was like, in 511 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 5: those moments, it's the moments that you're looking for, and 512 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 5: it's that moment, that very slim moment right there where 513 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 5: you had a chance to make a difference in this game, 514 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 5: in the play call and probably cost you down the stretch. 515 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 4: And that's when you get back to the conversation about 516 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 4: a Cooper Rush, you want to sign up for another 517 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: year of this? And you look at Mike McCarthy, do 518 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 4: you want to sign up for more of this? These 519 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: are the questions that you have to ask. This was 520 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 4: a gettable game against an elite quarterback. I just and 521 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 4: you couldn't get it cut. But this is what bad 522 00:25:59,480 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 4: teams do. 523 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: Canshoo this question though. 524 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 5: You know, we look at talent, and we look at 525 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 5: Cincinnati what they have on offense and their receiving corps, 526 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 5: guys like T Higgins, Joe Shi Vash and in their 527 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 5: tight end man, we don't aside from CD Lamb, who 528 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 5: else is it? Who else is there that you could 529 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 5: say can take some of the pressure off of coverage 530 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 5: for a guy like CD. Even if what you're talking about, 531 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 5: what you're saying with Jamar Chase, why didn't they double 532 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 5: Jamar Chase? Well, you don't double Jamart because you know 533 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 5: T Higgas gonna go crazy. 534 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, but I'm just hell, but. 535 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 5: It's gonna happen. Somebody gonna get this. You know, you 536 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 5: have a quarterback that's willing to do it. But when 537 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 5: you have a quarterback that's struggling and he's trying to 538 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 5: find guys, and he's definitely trying to find the main target, 539 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 5: which is Cede Lamb. 540 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 2: Who else is there? 541 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 5: I mean, you're just not getting any production from anybody else, 542 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 5: not numbered eighty eight. 543 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: This is true. 544 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 4: I thought I thought Brad Sham did a real nice job. 545 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 4: But telling the truth about Jay October, he's like, hey man, 546 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: that's been disappointing. Yeah, he said after the camp he 547 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: expected him to do more. He thought he could be 548 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 4: a number two. It's like he's not number three, number two, 549 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 4: and he hasn't been that guy. But I go back 550 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 4: to what many of those who had been out at 551 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 4: camp had been saying, it's CD and the Maybies, it's not. 552 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 4: This is not it and you know one of those 553 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 4: great Stephen Jones on it. We like our guys, Brandon 554 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 4: Cooks is he was injured and let's just be honest. 555 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 4: That's been a nine million dollar bad that's been bad 556 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 4: money right there. Cooks has not been the player you 557 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 4: thought he was going to be. Tolbert not the players 558 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 4: you thought he was gonna be. So you're two and 559 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 4: three have failed you. And then everything else they were 560 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 4: trying to put behind that has not worked out either. 561 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 4: That's that is so so for the the amount of 562 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 4: criticism Dak Prescott got he's not this, He's not that. 563 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 2: It's been CD and the Maybies and the media has 564 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: said it. The media who who? Who questioned? What are 565 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: you doing? The running back spot? 566 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 4: Why did it take so long for you to say, Hey, 567 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 4: Rico Daddell, here's some more care. Why did it take 568 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 4: so long to say, hey, let's get Turpin involved offensive? 569 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: That's good. 570 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 4: As much as I stood on the table for Mike 571 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 4: last year and the job he did, I have to 572 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 4: be fair in my assessment and say, you know what 573 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 4: this this this year has been a regression. You can 574 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 4: try and argue about what the carpenter's tools are, but 575 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 4: at some point in time you got to use the tools, 576 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 4: and you're finding out way too late some of the 577 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 4: tools that you need. 578 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: We go down on one thirty one last night. 579 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 4: I know the Bengals defense isn't good, but where could 580 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 4: you have been if you had been trying to give 581 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 4: this young man more opportunities? 582 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: Where were you? 583 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 4: Where were you at and not realizing that what Comante 584 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 4: Turpin is doing now these opportunities, this is what he 585 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 4: been doing to TCU. They've been giving the guy the 586 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 4: football in space and letting him just be a mismatch nightmare. 587 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: That's what they gotta get. 588 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 5: Get back to screens, slants, the little buff the sweeps 589 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 5: with some don't give this man a lie down down 590 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 5: the field. 591 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: How many times have we. 592 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 5: Seen one on one they're gonna throw it up the 593 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 5: turbine like he's six ' five, which he was. 594 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: They did it again last week, and I'm I'm just saying, 595 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: and I don't Mike knows the personnel. I know he 596 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: knows this, but who's drawing that up four or five 597 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: eight receiver? 598 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: This is this is what this is. This is what 599 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 4: gets you. This is what this is how you say 600 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 4: goodbye bye. You're helping yourself. 601 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 5: Cannot understanding. Look, it's taking ric o'doddo regardless how you found. 602 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 5: I'm not trying to down anybody. I'm just saying thirteen. 603 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 5: It's taking him thirteen games. He has been the source 604 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 5: of a lot of frustration of just not being able 605 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 5: to see and identify the whole and get through it. 606 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 5: His running style was not made for this offensive line 607 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 5: he's had because the blocking hadn't got better. You had 608 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 5: you didn't have a better offensive line. Out there yesterday, right, 609 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 5: So I mean, what what changed about ric o'dado in 610 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 5: this game that you didn't see in the Detroit game? 611 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 5: That you didn't see it? So that's all I'm saying. Look, 612 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 5: I think he's doing he's running better. Matter of fact, 613 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 5: his running style I think fits perfectly to the offensive 614 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 5: line that he has. But man, come on, now, let's 615 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 5: just let's not act like rick o'daldo started the season 616 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 5: off hot like this, carrying the ball like what I'm 617 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 5: seeing right now I wish I saw at the beginning 618 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 5: of the season. Is all I'm saying. The rhythm that 619 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 5: he's getting into now he looks like a damn better 620 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 5: running back now. 621 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 4: So I come back to this, It's about opportunities Church, 622 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: you played this game. It's about being able to play, 623 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 4: get opportunities and get a rhythm as a running back 624 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 4: goes none of what they did this year at the 625 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 4: running back position from the start. 626 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: Can't argue with that. I can't argue what's the plan, strategy? 627 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 4: You come the strategy, you get the strategy, and it's 628 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 4: just like m and so by the time you figured out. 629 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: What it is you want to do, you're late in 630 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: the game and you're just. 631 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 5: Like or Or you figure out that Brandon Cooks is 632 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 5: a step slower he's supposed to be to take the 633 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 5: top off threat. 634 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 4: Now he hurt you know, he hurt me, hurt so 635 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 4: and and Tolbert. You know, look, man, you got your. 636 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: Opportunities, the opportunity you didn't do anything with it. So yeah, 637 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: it's it's it's. 638 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 4: This is the kind of stuff that Jerry has to 639 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 4: look at the end of the year and make a 640 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 4: decision on do I want more years of this? And 641 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 4: if I do, how do I change it? How do 642 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 4: I improve the roster so he's better? 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I see Barry. 712 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 4: Churchway safeties here as Church tried to Warren Heckman, don't 713 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 4: do it, get on it, stay away one play away, 714 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 4: one play away. 715 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, Olive, my man. That's why you get off 716 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 2: that narcotic sir. I tried, I tried. You knew they 717 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: were going to I was I was good for a 718 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: long time. Then in two wins, like did anybody interview 719 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 2: my mask? Alli like and just asking like. 720 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 5: Man, what No, they escorted him out. I think they 721 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 5: got you know, they got him away from the media. 722 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: What would you like, come on? 723 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 5: Would there would have been There was nothing that he 724 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 5: could have said after of that game that would have 725 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 5: satisfied you. And I'm glad that they didn't put him 726 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 5: in front of what could he have said? Barry that 727 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 5: Barry Church would have been like, you know what, I 728 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 5: could see that man, that's one of the thought process, 729 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 5: like saw the ball towards me, you know, and activating 730 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 5: there talking about he said his back was thirty you 731 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 5: know he saw the ball, Why. 732 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: Why go attack the ball? This matrix? So what happened? 733 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 2: Does anybody get out of fire? 734 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 7: Right? 735 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 6: Yeah? 736 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 8: Right? 737 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: That he went at the ball though. This is how man, 738 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 2: this is how this is how bad. 739 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 5: It ain't like it bounced at him, like he just 740 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 5: couldn't get out the way he went at the ball. 741 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 2: Man, his opportunity this I got this, we got like 742 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 2: like fat Joe got that. 743 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 5: Y'all got that job because like I even if it 744 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 5: didn't get blocked and the punter shanked it. 745 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: You still not get away from it. Get away from it. 746 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 4: I got this you know by the way they're showing 747 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 4: the replay right now right here in the studio or 748 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 4: rat the Cooper Rush interception with CD lamb and clearly 749 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 4: he thought CD was doing something else because there was 750 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 4: a miscommunicator. 751 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 2: He got bumped right here if you. 752 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 5: See a twenty seven bumpy mob and then he threw it, 753 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 5: so he thought, I mean he threw it before. 754 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it and he threw it back after 755 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 2: the back city is hurt. 756 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 7: Man. 757 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 2: That should ain't that should ain't right. He's soldiering right now. 758 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 5: Then if you saw him on that jet sweep when 759 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 5: that one was like when he got down, he's trying to. 760 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 2: He didn't want no smoke. 761 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 5: He was not gonna try and muscle another yard because 762 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 5: of that shoulder. That is I don't know, man, Hey 763 00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 5: the eye in the sky donline. So I know they 764 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 5: said they sit down today or they're off to day. 765 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 5: Whenever they sat down and gonna watch this film. There's 766 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 5: gonna be causes in effect for that one. And maybe 767 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 5: it was because CD didn't try and run. They're gonna 768 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 5: be circling. 769 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, this, this is not what we want, right, It's 770 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 2: not what we want. That ball into three Bengals, Yeah, yeah, okay. 771 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 4: Jerry Jones did his Tuesday hit on one O five three, 772 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 4: the fan of flagship station for the Dallas Cowboys, and 773 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 4: he came out and he said, Domoro Overshowon is going 774 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 4: to have surgery. 775 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 2: He's going to miss the rest of this season. And 776 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,959 Speaker 2: basically Jerry Sam may not see him until twenty twenty six. 777 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 2: I could see that. 778 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 4: So with the he's the other knee, not the need 779 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,320 Speaker 4: that he lost his rookie or on, but another knee 780 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 4: in just different places. 781 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 2: And just, man, this is bad. 782 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 4: And I think I can speak for all three of us, 783 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 4: and I think I could speak for Cowboy nation. This 784 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 4: is a young man who you really had high hopes 785 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 4: for that you thought was going to be another piece 786 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 4: to go along with the Michael Parsons and this was 787 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 4: going to be the future of the team. And this 788 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 4: you hate it for the young man who's a positive 789 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 4: young man. You hated, You just hated for the process 790 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 4: of what you're building for and thinking in twenty twenty five. Hey, 791 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 4: Marian Overshown is going to be more experienced because this 792 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 4: is really his first year playing. This guy was playing well. 793 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 2: This hurts. 794 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 5: It hurts big time because you could just see the 795 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 5: juice he was bringing on the football field, like I mean, 796 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 5: just any type. 797 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 2: Of play, tackle, big play. 798 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 5: He's getting people amped up with it as just how 799 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 5: he is on the football field, and you need that 800 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 5: type of player with you on the team, somebody that hey, 801 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 5: when we're starting to slow, let me go ahead, jump 802 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 5: start this. 803 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 2: And that's exactly what he was bringing to the table. 804 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 2: And it sucks because each. 805 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 5: Week he was just getting better and better and more confident, 806 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 5: making plays left and right and really becoming a leader 807 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 5: on that defense. And then you just hate to see 808 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 5: this type of thing happen to a young man out there, 809 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 5: already lost his rookie season toil. I believe the left 810 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 5: a CL or the right and now the other need 811 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 5: you know, the reports are saying he tore all three 812 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 5: MCL pc L A c L And it's just like, man, 813 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,479 Speaker 5: that rehab is going to be tough, man, especially knowing 814 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 5: that you you know, more than likely won't be ready 815 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 5: for that next season. It's just like, man, it's a 816 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 5: long road, man, and the light at the end of 817 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 5: the tunnel is a long way away, man, So you know, 818 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 5: god speed to him, you know, you know, hope his 819 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 5: mentals is all right and he's able to soldier through 820 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 5: this and maybe have a great bounce back. 821 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 2: But man, this is where you need your teammates. This 822 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 2: is where you need guys to you know, check up 823 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 2: in on you. 824 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 5: Because when you I've been there, I've been you know, 825 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 5: Achilles shoulder, where I'm out for the whole season, it 826 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 5: becomes dark, man, it becomes real dark. But you gotta 827 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 5: have those guys that come in and check up on 828 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 5: you and make you still feel like you're a part 829 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 5: of the team. And you know, hopefully those with the 830 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 5: guys in the locker room will be able to do 831 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 5: that for him. But you know, god speed and hopefully 832 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 5: he's able to recover from this brutal injury. 833 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 7: Man. 834 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 5: Be I take from what you just said really one word, 835 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 5: and that's the leader, a young man that came in 836 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 5: really trying to find his place on this defense, with 837 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 5: a defense that already had bona fide leaders on it. 838 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,879 Speaker 5: And sometimes it's just the opportunity to lead and when 839 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 5: you get it, if you take advantage of it, then 840 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 5: you don't have to do it by talking. It could 841 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 5: be from your actions and everything he did. It didn't 842 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 5: have anything to do with nothing he said out of 843 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 5: his mouth. It was the way that he was playing 844 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 5: on the field and he was putting the work in. 845 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 5: And that's what I think I respect more than anything 846 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 5: about the Marvin Overshonn is that he didn't try and 847 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 5: make it about him last season, an injury, none of that. 848 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 5: He came in here, he just did the work and 849 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 5: just wanted to be a part of the team, the routine, 850 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 5: and everybody around here started saying, damn, who. 851 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 2: Do you see number thirteen? 852 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 5: Man? 853 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 2: Who is number thirteen? 854 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 5: The Marvin overshan did that all by himself. And then 855 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 5: you started to hear when Michael went down after week 856 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 5: four with it with the injury. God's like number thirteen 857 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 5: being people saying, Nah, the Marvin Overshaan's carrying things. He's 858 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 5: the one that's stepping up. He's the one that's in 859 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 5: the team meetings. And to me, like I look to 860 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 5: where you got to and you understand what it means 861 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 5: to have to miss that time and be a part 862 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 5: of this. People that are away from football that paid 863 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 5: any football the one thing they always say, what do 864 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 5: you miss the most? The locker room, the camaraderie, what 865 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 5: you get from having that fellowship amongst you know, football players. 866 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 5: And that's why when things come out of the locker 867 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 5: room like you're saying in Philadelphia, you know, you say 868 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 5: to yourself, like, damn, you know, that's not normal because 869 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 5: usually the locker room is sacred. You know, we don't 870 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 5: let things come out of that. But when you get 871 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 5: a young man that earns the respect of the entire 872 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 5: locker room and veteran leadership that talks, that speaks to him. 873 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 5: And my thing is, look, the injury is catastrophic. 874 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 2: I was there. I saw it. 875 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 5: It looked bad, right you saw that the Willison. I 876 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 5: don't know if you ever saw the Willis McGahee injury 877 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 5: in the Ohio State. That was one of those injuries 878 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 5: that when you saw it in real time, you said 879 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 5: to yourself, I don't know if this young man will 880 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 5: ever play football player again again because of the way, 881 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 5: because of the way happen. Then next thing, you know, 882 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 5: Willis mcgahey is in the league. He's having production as 883 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 5: a running back. And you know, but right now it 884 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 5: may seem grim, and then it may not be a situation. 885 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 5: And look, man, you know they say God don't make mistakes, 886 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 5: not to get religious on y'all, but I still believe 887 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 5: in that. And I believe that a young man of 888 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 5: his caliber, of his background, and his family and everybody 889 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 5: that's got him and everybody around here is going to, 890 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 5: you know, form themselves around him and be a support 891 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 5: system for him because he is a quality young man. 892 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 5: And if he can make it back from this, because 893 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,800 Speaker 5: I don't know if he can make it back from this, 894 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,439 Speaker 5: I think this will be a testimony of like none 895 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 5: anybody's ever seen. Because he is a fine young man. 896 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 5: He's a fine young man. And I was gutted for 897 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 5: him last night. And when they especially when they start 898 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 5: talking about the severity of the injury, right kind of. 899 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 4: Guy, So Church, And what's the process like when you 900 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 4: go through another indict It's one thing to get hurt 901 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 4: for the first time, but you've done it again. So 902 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 4: what's the mentality for him and how does he keep 903 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 4: how does he win the mental game? 904 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 5: Well, I'm telling you now, his mentality when he was 905 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 5: on the field was probably like man, not again, not 906 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 5: like this, because that's exactly what I was thinking when 907 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 5: I did my achilles. 908 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 2: I just looked down, just like man, not like this. 909 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 7: Man. 910 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 2: It can't go out like this. So at first you're 911 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 2: in kind of self denial, self doubt, just like, man, 912 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 2: what did I do? I Why do I deserve this? 913 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 5: But and looking at a tweet he had, you know 914 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 5: right after the game, you know, I'm one of God's 915 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 5: strongest soldiers. 916 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: And you know I got I have a bounce back. 917 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 5: So he already has that right mentality in him and 918 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 5: the hard worker I've already seen on the football field, 919 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 5: the way he was able to bounce back from his 920 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 5: first ACL injury. I know he's going to put the 921 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 5: work in. He's going to attack this rehab. It's not 922 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 5: going to be like, oh man, I got to go 923 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 5: through this again. He's going to attack it. And those 924 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 5: guys over in the training room, Britt Brown and those 925 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 5: guys are some of the best international football leagues, so 926 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 5: they'll be able to get him back to the strongest 927 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 5: he's possibly ever been. But he has to have that 928 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 5: right mentality of I'm going to attack this. I'm not 929 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 5: going to let this defeat me, and you haven't the 930 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 5: last of overshown. I believe that's the type of young 931 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 5: man he is. 932 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 2: So good luck to him. Personnel department has dealt a 933 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 2: blow because you thought, you, hey, you've got two good 934 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,760 Speaker 2: linebackers here in terms of a Parsons and an overshown. 935 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 2: And I was even wondering if they decide to switch 936 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 2: defenses next year, you know, do you start to look 937 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 2: at the three four because you had two good guys 938 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 2: there to pressure players. And so this is a setback. 939 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 4: So they're going to have to go out and now 940 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 4: address this position because it would be irresponsible to just 941 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 4: think about him being on your team in twenty five. 942 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 2: This is tough. 943 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 4: So you got to hope the young man get ready 944 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 4: for twenty six and he can be better, but you've 945 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 4: got to go ahead and fill this need here. So 946 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 4: it's another blow for this personnel department here is they're 947 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 4: going to have to go ahead and try and figure 948 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 4: out how how do you make this football team work 949 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 4: at that position? 950 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 2: All right? Out of time? 951 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 4: Heck Ma Harrison, sir, appreciate you, Barry Church appreciating that. Yeah, 952 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 4: genty yeah, that's right, genty genty. 953 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 2: That's over with. It's curtageenty capus. 954 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 4: Maybe a cowboy who knows play STI brought to you 955 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 4: by Aristocrat Gaming. We'll dive into that tomorrow. Let's dive 956 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 4: into that tomorrow. 957 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,720 Speaker 2: Oh, Dallas Cowboys. 958 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 1: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 959 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.