WEBVTT - Backyard Chickens

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<v Speaker 1>God fucking damn it. I just got another fucking message

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast about the incredible investment vehicle that is gold. Now, look, people,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean all of your money, then you're just

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<v Speaker 1>leaving cash on the table. Gold is such a good

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<v Speaker 1>investment vehicle that if you had bought ten thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>the same amount of money. Can can you beat Can

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<v Speaker 1>Gold is perfect for a number of reasons. Look, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're worried about instability, obviously, if society collapses, gold is

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that you want to have, because, of course

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<v Speaker 1>you'll still be able to trade what is fundamentally a

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<v Speaker 1>useless rock for goods and services in the event that

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<v Speaker 1>there's no civilization. That that just makes complete sense. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>stock up on ammunition, stock up on gold. What about gold? Immunition.

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<v Speaker 1>super vampires, that's what you want is gold bullets. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there is something like maybe it's like Survival of the Fittest.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm allergic to gold, so if I touch it gives

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<v Speaker 1>me a rash. So I can't survive in a world

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<v Speaker 1>of gold. I love you well if you need so,

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<v Speaker 1>if you need to take out Sharine and the Apocalypse,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure make a gold spear or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just givet jewelry. Look, it's it's a good idea. According

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<v Speaker 1>to one of my friends, who has read much more

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<v Speaker 1>Marks than Idea, Marks particular, that we would go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the gold standard. So yeah, like you're it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be great. The immortal science wins again. Um, this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually today we are talking about um collapse, but not

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<v Speaker 1>the collapse of the economy, because the economy is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of always collapsing. That's part of what makes it the economy. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about the fact that the market for eggs

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<v Speaker 1>has gotten insane. People are paying crazy prices for huevos

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<v Speaker 1>these days. Um, and there's there's no no good reason

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<v Speaker 1>for it, obviously, Like it's the you know, egg production

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<v Speaker 1>in some places was like impacted by the bird flu,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is not why eggs have gotten more expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pure corporate greed. But regardless of that, people are

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<v Speaker 1>finding themselves thinking about like, wow, eggs are expensive as hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I maybe get some chickens? Um? And today we

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<v Speaker 1>have several chicken owners on the podcast, myself and James Stout,

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<v Speaker 1>and several people who don't have chickens but our chicken

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<v Speaker 1>que rheus. So we're going to talk about having chickens. James, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I've been training for this my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>So this this was your idea, so Vents is very

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<v Speaker 1>much my baby. So if you guys just want to

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<v Speaker 1>sit back and learn about chickens, your baby James or

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<v Speaker 1>your egg Well that's the thing, isn't it. Robert one

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<v Speaker 1>could be the other. I've given enough time. People have

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this. I've heard. Yeah, it's been a discussion

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<v Speaker 1>for some time in the chicken community. All right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about chickens. So I want to start out with like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're thinking about getting chickens, and I have written

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<v Speaker 1>a script for this, thank you. Yeah, I'm ready to roll.

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<v Speaker 1>So the most important thing obviously when you're getting animals,

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting any animals, is like that you're responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>a living thing and you have to take care of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to be kind to it, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have to treat it well and make sure that if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not able to look after it, like if you

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<v Speaker 1>travel a lot for work and someone else can write.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think chickens are particularly useless or they're useful

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<v Speaker 1>and they're very nice that they're not like the most

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<v Speaker 1>practical animals, like if you if you leave them alone,

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<v Speaker 1>they will die. If it gets too hot, they will die,

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<v Speaker 1>if it gets too cold, they will die. Um, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you do have to look after them. They're not like

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<v Speaker 1>a wild animal that comes in sometimes in lace eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they are an extremely domesticated animal that's been domesticated

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<v Speaker 1>for probably thousands of years. So it's a responsibility. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I'm just gonna I'm gonna go through some of

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<v Speaker 1>my stuff. If you guys have any questions, as we

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<v Speaker 1>like move along, please feel free to ask him. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start out with the breeds of chickens, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think are a good idea. And so when you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at chickens, so The first thing you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to look at if your space right, like how much

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<v Speaker 1>space do I have? And there are websites where you

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<v Speaker 1>can calculate, like working with your acreage or or how

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<v Speaker 1>many yards you have? How many chickens are appropriate, James,

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<v Speaker 1>the level of prepper and the stuff is beautiful. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy because I will I will note be

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<v Speaker 1>be careful about getting too many. When I got the

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<v Speaker 1>place that I got, I inherited fourteen chicken and that

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<v Speaker 1>is a tremendous quantity of chickens. And and there was

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<v Speaker 1>especially chickens make you know, kind of in their prime.

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<v Speaker 1>Egg laying can make one. Sometimes some chickens will do

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<v Speaker 1>to a day. So there were weeks where I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting like close to a hundred eggs, which is far more,

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<v Speaker 1>far more eggs than a human being can possibly consume.

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<v Speaker 1>That you can consume, I can consume a hundred eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they will, they will consume you. I will mail

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<v Speaker 1>you eggs always more eggs. Eggs are like eight I

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<v Speaker 1>walked into a grocery store. Okay, I'm i'm, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>now doing the bit. I walked through the grocery store

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<v Speaker 1>in the eggs where eight fifty and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the fund is going on here? Man, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make a fucking bank. I have like literally

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<v Speaker 1>sixty eggs sitting in my kitchen right now, going to

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<v Speaker 1>sell eggs in the dark web. You goddamn right. This

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<v Speaker 1>is how I fucking leave this this damn podcasting bullshit behind.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna become the egg man switches. Finally, I used

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<v Speaker 1>for cryptocurrency egg coin. It's actually it's tied to the

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<v Speaker 1>value of eggs. As you completely collapsed. Um, yeah, don't

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<v Speaker 1>don't over chicken yourself like starting out, but also don't

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<v Speaker 1>get too few. You do want at least three. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>be sad or they won't get along. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you're like a normal household, three is probably a

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<v Speaker 1>great number of chickens. Like you, you will probably be

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<v Speaker 1>quite happy with three to four chickens. Yeah, you'll get

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<v Speaker 1>like if you estimate like six eggs per chicken per week,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a fair kind of estimate. They'll take some

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<v Speaker 1>time off during the year or with seasons change or

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<v Speaker 1>molten stuff, So eighteen eggs, like, yeah, you're getting pretty

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<v Speaker 1>hard in a normal household. You've eating that many. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you start people like to think that

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<v Speaker 1>they should get bantams to off with, Do we know

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<v Speaker 1>what bantams are? Non chicken understanding. I have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of chickens, but I don't know any thing about the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of chickens. So we've had a few bantams. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not great, to be honest, like bantams are mostly showing birds,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a smaller chicken. Think of it as like

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<v Speaker 1>a half sized chicken, right, um, And if you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>like a really fancy and you can go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>google some bantams like yeah really little, yeah, really pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to I like large chickens. Now, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't engage in cock fighting. I think it's a moral,

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<v Speaker 1>but I like to know theoretically, if they had to,

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<v Speaker 1>my chickens could handle themselves in a fight. Did anybody

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<v Speaker 1>ever think Robert would be like you, I'm a big

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<v Speaker 1>chicken guyable it's yeah, you want big chickens. Some breeds

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<v Speaker 1>to look for, orpingtons like buff Orpington's and you can

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<v Speaker 1>remember that big buff and great ass chickens. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>could get a yoke to Orpington, get get a hench

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<v Speaker 1>rhode island red. People in America don't say hench, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we used to have a couple of those. So one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things about bantams is you can't get them

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<v Speaker 1>point of lace. The point of lay is when they've

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<v Speaker 1>been sexed. Right, so you know that they're girls and

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<v Speaker 1>they they come to you just to when they're about

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<v Speaker 1>to lay, right, and you don't. Generally you get bantams

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<v Speaker 1>younger and you don't get them sexed. So in our case,

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<v Speaker 1>we had one. She she crowed a lot, so I

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<v Speaker 1>thought she's a rooster. She wasn't. Any other one was

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<v Speaker 1>a rooster. So yeah, that's god be my question. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you need to get a rooster? Also? No, so the

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<v Speaker 1>chicken regardless, I can't. I don't understand how that works. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So the chickens are gonna lay regardless, right, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>like how they can do. That's that's the eggs on fertilized. Right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they won't make chickens, they will be babies. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it, I get like a human doing it them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of like their equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>of a menstruation effectively. Yeah, I know that. Now everything's

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<v Speaker 1>coming back to me as far as like began talking points.

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<v Speaker 1>Go chickens, by the way, because chickens are as James said,

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<v Speaker 1>these are animals and you have to take good care

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<v Speaker 1>of them. That is your responsibility. You do low key

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<v Speaker 1>realize the longer you have them. But they're monsters, like

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<v Speaker 1>their favorite food is their own kind. They have at

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<v Speaker 1>each other kids. Yeah, so like, don't go outside with

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<v Speaker 1>your chickens. Like the other day I was, I was

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<v Speaker 1>cutting down some some bushes and I had was wearing

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<v Speaker 1>shorts a little cut from the from the thorn. When

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<v Speaker 1>they see blood, they are just like fucking does that

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<v Speaker 1>affect the egg? Like, yeah, I mean what you made them? So? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we we butchered a deer last year and we wound

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<v Speaker 1>up with a lot of like deer fat and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like meat that you gave it to the chickens. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we had some stuff because the deer had been hit

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<v Speaker 1>by a car. There was some meat we couldn't eat,

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<v Speaker 1>so we wound up giving several pounds of meat to

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<v Speaker 1>the chickens and those eggs fucking ruled. Okay, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>advised to feed them, dear, But yeah, so you wanted stuff. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>if you so they do believe. There's a stuff called

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<v Speaker 1>purple spray. I'm sure it's not what it's actually called,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's purple and it's a spray, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>we already called it purple spray. You can spray on

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<v Speaker 1>them and it just stops it looking like blood. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's like an antibiotic or maybe an antiseptic, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you could spray that on the chicken. So like one

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<v Speaker 1>of mine, she's just got this little thing on her

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<v Speaker 1>wing that opens up every now and again, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just make sure I spray that and that stops her

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<v Speaker 1>from the other ones from pecking her. Right, Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>they have to be. We had a last year some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of animal, I think it was probably a like

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<v Speaker 1>a like a possum or something, I don't really know.

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<v Speaker 1>Some kind of animal gotten to the the coop and attacked

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<v Speaker 1>my chickens and we had I had one chicken. We

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<v Speaker 1>called it the anarchists chicken because it could always escape.

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<v Speaker 1>It like never was in the cage um. And when

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<v Speaker 1>when they got attacked, the Anarchists chicken leapt to defend

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the flock and fought off whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>was that attacked. But she wound up with a hole

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<v Speaker 1>in her side, and so I like took her and

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<v Speaker 1>I addressed the wound, and I put her back in

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<v Speaker 1>the cage, and they all immediately tried to I want

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<v Speaker 1>to have a separate Yeah, yeah, yeah, I that was

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<v Speaker 1>the lesson that I learned. I had to take her

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<v Speaker 1>out because yeah, we have a tiny rabbit hutch that

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<v Speaker 1>we use. It's called the Meryl Peep Memorial Chicken Hospital

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<v Speaker 1>because Mery's not about chickens who died. And you just

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<v Speaker 1>put put them in that for a few days until

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<v Speaker 1>they're better, and then then they can reintegrate. It's fine,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I did. We're very we've we've made very

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<v Speaker 1>little progress on my script. Okay, so sorry, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get buffal Pinkton's right down and reads a good

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<v Speaker 1>plymouth rocks. Americanas are nice. Have you guys seen those?

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<v Speaker 1>If we don't have, If we don't, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>anything about talking about what do they teach you in school? Um? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>So they're called Easter eggers. Sometimes they lay different colored

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<v Speaker 1>eggs like Pastel's colored eggs like blue and green eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you not been exposed to this at all? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I get up extra cornfield. But also I I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I was a round a farm, but we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't interact with the chickens because you don't, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like here de old cows instead. That was like,

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<v Speaker 1>chickens are good, don't go dive straight into cattle if

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting into animal husband But yeah, americanasun say ladies

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<v Speaker 1>colored eggs. One of my friends dad's had them when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, and he made bank selling them

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<v Speaker 1>around Easter. So yeah, if you're looking to get into

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<v Speaker 1>your chicken hustle. And then leg horns are like really good.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like hardy chickens, but they are allowed. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you live near people, um, I would consider not. You

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<v Speaker 1>should also check your local laws, Like where I live,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't have a rooster. You can have up to

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<v Speaker 1>five chickens within city limits. You can't have a rooster.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't really want a rooster have chicks. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things roosters can do is like peck at

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<v Speaker 1>your chickens and effectively like were holes in there, like

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<v Speaker 1>yeah that they wind up like parts. Yeah, their little

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<v Speaker 1>sons of bitches. We harvested ours as soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>got the place, and yeah, that's that's the term. This

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<v Speaker 1>leads into a question that I've been wanting to ask,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that, Okay, it is my under is my

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<v Speaker 1>firm belief that I could defeed a chicken in single

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<v Speaker 1>combat it would send me to the hospital. But apparently

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<v Speaker 1>this is the thing you need to do with your chickens.

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<v Speaker 1>So how how practical is it to defeed a chicken

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<v Speaker 1>in single combat if you have to extract another chicken

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I've never actually had any kind of aggression

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<v Speaker 1>from my chickens. When I'm bleeding, they'll peck my leg.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, yeah, while we we hadn't realized that,

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<v Speaker 1>like they so I think that you want when you

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<v Speaker 1>get chickens, it's a rodent proof freedom, right, So you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to just put the food in the bowl

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<v Speaker 1>if you have an issue with rodent's you want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a things like basically, she comes up, she stands

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<v Speaker 1>on a step and that opens up the feeder and

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<v Speaker 1>she can pack and eat, right, And you want to

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<v Speaker 1>get a road and proof feeder. You can just buy

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<v Speaker 1>them attract to supply. But I was gummed up with

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<v Speaker 1>rain and we didn't realize and the chickens are obviously

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<v Speaker 1>not getting food. They're upset with this, so they would

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<v Speaker 1>attack me every time I came outside, like, they'd attack

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<v Speaker 1>me and I'd be like, go away. So I'd give

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<v Speaker 1>them treats, right, I give them like worms and apples.

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<v Speaker 1>A kitten has arrived, I have to. She was wasting

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<v Speaker 1>to hold or to be held. I'm holding my cat

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone, that's like, what's happening. She just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be snuggled. That's okay, she's given your kiars um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you the mind would attack me for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just gave them meal worms when they would

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<v Speaker 1>attack me. So unconsciously I was reinforcing the attacking behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they would attack me for a while. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think you could take them. Just keep swinging and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. You know, you don't have to. They're very

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<v Speaker 1>like most of the time, at least mine. I hand

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<v Speaker 1>feed them. So like a nice treat for them is

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<v Speaker 1>I'll cut a melon in half and I'll chase Sharne

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<v Speaker 1>because she's allergic to melons, and you just hold it

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<v Speaker 1>out and they'll come and eat it. And they they

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<v Speaker 1>love scraps like that's often like what I do with

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<v Speaker 1>basically all of my food waste is give it to

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<v Speaker 1>the chickens, and they tend to be very happy with that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very it's a very sustainable thing. Let's get onto space.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about before, before, before, before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into this. I speaking of sustainability. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>who else is incredibly sustainable? I don't think we can

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<v Speaker 1>say capitalism? Yes, inherently, so shiny stuff, it will last

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand years. All right, we're back. Buy some gold.

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<v Speaker 1>Buy some gold. Want to re enforce it, because gold,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're starving, will be more useful than chickens because

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<v Speaker 1>it's shiny. That's right, That's right. It'll make you forget

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<v Speaker 1>that you're slowly starving. And it's the foundation of all

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<v Speaker 1>of this. Ship's shiny. Okay um, yeah, so don't have

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<v Speaker 1>shiny things. I want to talking about chicken coopes, because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a shiny thing sectional. I love a good coop.

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<v Speaker 1>I do love to make a coop. I'd have to

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<v Speaker 1>buy a cooper, have to help my friends buy coops.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's a it's a great conversation area anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So they do need a coupe. They need a place

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<v Speaker 1>where they can go at night, and you want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be shut off from predators, right, so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want your possum, your raccoon, and your fox, your stout,

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<v Speaker 1>your weasel, fare whatever whatever you're dealing with snake. Um. So,

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<v Speaker 1>once you get above three chickens, you might have more

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<v Speaker 1>than one nesting box in there. But like this doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily mean that you need to go out and buy

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<v Speaker 1>You can buy them on Amazon now, but they're quite

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<v Speaker 1>expensive and they're often quite ship like the pre made

0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.480
<v Speaker 1>chicken coops are very poor quality. Like if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a shed or a kennel or something like that, you

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<v Speaker 1>can pretty easily make it into a coupe and you

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<v Speaker 1>can just put a drop down door on the front

0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:09.439
<v Speaker 1>so you can close them in at night and let

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<v Speaker 1>them out in the morning. And or I've seen people

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<v Speaker 1>use like drawers, you know, like like dresses, just open

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<v Speaker 1>those and use them as nesting boxes. And you want

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<v Speaker 1>to put down some straw in your nesting books. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have I think four for the chickens that I

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<v Speaker 1>have now, which is about I think we've got about

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<v Speaker 1>eleven um And there they are. Two of them are

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<v Speaker 1>large enough for two at a time, and then two

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<v Speaker 1>of them are smaller, although chickens all and and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things you have to do occasionally is

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<v Speaker 1>come in and like take them out of the some

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<v Speaker 1>of them out of the nesting boxes. Some of them

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<v Speaker 1>get like stuck in a loop. Where did they get broody? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, And so you just I just like take

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<v Speaker 1>them out and set them down where there's like some

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to peck at, and they seem to It kind

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<v Speaker 1>of resets their little chicken brains. Silky Bantams, which are

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<v Speaker 1>one of the like show bantams get Rudy is fun

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like I've had friends who have had him,

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<v Speaker 1>and they will they will not eat and not drink

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<v Speaker 1>because it's just like, no, I'm sitting on this egg,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can't stop me. And you have to lock

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<v Speaker 1>them out of there. There's not even an egg there, chicken,

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<v Speaker 1>what's wrong with you? Yeah, well they'll take another chicken's egg. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just yeah. Or even like silky it's cute. Look them

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<v Speaker 1>up there, they're real, they're flu furs. They're very cute.

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<v Speaker 1>So you want to build them a run to write

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<v Speaker 1>a place where they can say if you run around

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<v Speaker 1>and have their food, have their water, And I would

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<v Speaker 1>suggest using construction netting when you build a run broy

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<v Speaker 1>that people called chicken wire, which is like maybe one

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<v Speaker 1>inch size holes, but like a lot of stuff can

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<v Speaker 1>get through that. You'd be amazed, like rats, my snakes

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<v Speaker 1>can all get through that. And use construction netting, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like maybe I'm not very good at inches, but

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<v Speaker 1>like about one cent to me to size a lot less.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to get through it. And you might want

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<v Speaker 1>to bury it down to like a foot or two

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<v Speaker 1>below the run if you're building something permanent, just because

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<v Speaker 1>things can't dig underneath, like a we had a foxtic

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<v Speaker 1>underneath when I was a kid, and don't it's preferable

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<v Speaker 1>to do that to putting on the floor of your

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<v Speaker 1>run because they don't like the little wire and their

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<v Speaker 1>little feet. Yeah no, no, definitely not on the You

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<v Speaker 1>want them to have access to dirt and ideally sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>grass too. One thing that they because I will let

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<v Speaker 1>them out sometimes during the day and I have a

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<v Speaker 1>barn that has like like it's kind of dust in there,

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<v Speaker 1>like not dust um almost like almost like sandy dry dirt.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of their favorite things, especially during the summer,

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<v Speaker 1>is to just kind of like sit down and rub. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that make it all up in the like, and they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of need to be able to do some version

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<v Speaker 1>of that in order to be like healthy. Otherwise they yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's good for them, it's good for their skin,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good for them existing. Yeah, it's good for their

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<v Speaker 1>mental health. I think that like people keep kicking their

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<v Speaker 1>terrible conditions commercially, but it doesn't mean you have an

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<v Speaker 1>excuse to. So when I when I got these chickens,

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<v Speaker 1>they had been the people who'd have them before. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the funk was wrong with them. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a sizeable outside run, but whoever, the folks who

0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:10.719
<v Speaker 1>had them had covered the entire bottom in stone, so

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<v Speaker 1>they were just like living on stone when we know

0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:16.680
<v Speaker 1>they were. They were in a horrible shape. And when

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<v Speaker 1>I when we harvested the rooster, his gizzard was full

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<v Speaker 1>of automotive glass, like, yeah, it was fucked up. It

0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:26.399
<v Speaker 1>was I spent because they all had they all had

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<v Speaker 1>huge patches of them that like we're bald um. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we we we dealt with that, partially by getting

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the rooster and partially by making sure we

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<v Speaker 1>gave them I was I still do mix in um

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<v Speaker 1>oyster shell bits with the calcium is good for them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you'll know if they need that, Like they stopped

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<v Speaker 1>coming and he startually really dangerous, like an egg can

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<v Speaker 1>rupture inside if they're laying it and that can be fatal.

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<v Speaker 1>So you want to make sure, um, if we just

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<v Speaker 1>we can cover a few quickly, I guess. And so

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<v Speaker 1>they do like to grub for worms and stuff like that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>look for insects and they love to have scraps. But

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<v Speaker 1>for laying chicken, you want to make sure it's getting

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<v Speaker 1>a decent based diet of layers pellets, which should be

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<v Speaker 1>like somewhere between six protein which sorry, what what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pellets? Layer pellets? Yeah, there's a number of brands

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but yeah, they're called layer pellets. Yeah, some

0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:20.639
<v Speaker 1>of them will already have oyster shell and grit and

0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:22.639
<v Speaker 1>like Robert said, they do need those. If not, you

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<v Speaker 1>can augment them, but it's probably gonna be easier to

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<v Speaker 1>just get one sack and just dump it all in.

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<v Speaker 1>They do need access to water as well that they

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<v Speaker 1>can get out all day. I think it's better to

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<v Speaker 1>use like a nipple type drinker, which is a you

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<v Speaker 1>can take a bucket, any bucket right fill it up

0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:41.320
<v Speaker 1>and then you put these little nipples and they just

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<v Speaker 1>get their red and again they like to peck it

0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:44.760
<v Speaker 1>red stuff, so they'll peck at them and then they

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<v Speaker 1>get and that stops. Like you know, they can't put

0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 1>their feet in the water and get their ship from

0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:51.359
<v Speaker 1>their feet in the water and get sick, like then

0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.200
<v Speaker 1>they're not clean animals. So just if you do that,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I like to put a little bit. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hot where I live in San Diego, so I put

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of electrolyte stuff in there for them

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<v Speaker 1>and they don't seem to mind, and it just seems

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<v Speaker 1>to help. And then yeah, like it's it's good to

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<v Speaker 1>you can feed them kitchen straps, but you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to overload them, especially on carb stuff, like they do

0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.280
<v Speaker 1>need enough protein to keep up there laying and they

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<v Speaker 1>definitely need enough calcium. And one thing I would say

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're going to buy something, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to buy a chicken coop, there's a company called

0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:27.000
<v Speaker 1>egg Glue, which is like iglobe egg. They make some

0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:30.000
<v Speaker 1>really nice pre fab coups that are pretty good, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can buy an attachment which puts a little door

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<v Speaker 1>on it. That it uses a solar panel I guess

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<v Speaker 1>to charge itself, and then it will open at daylight

0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and close at sunset. And so if you're the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of person who knows that, you'll forget to bring your

0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:47.280
<v Speaker 1>chickens in. Obviously they're you know, they're at risk at

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<v Speaker 1>night from predation and things, and they become completely fucking

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<v Speaker 1>useless at night when they go to sleep. You can

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<v Speaker 1>pick them up and turn them upside down and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my interior, the coot the interior of my coupe hairs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cute. It's basically like a ladder, like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a very wide ladder going up the side of the

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:09.359
<v Speaker 1>building and they just all stand on like it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a group of twenty, like a different levels of the

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:15.919
<v Speaker 1>ladder just sit there as they as they sleep at night. Yeah,

0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 1>they need to step on it, that's a good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>mind you can't just on the floor. Yeah, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>like just being in the dirt. And then like something

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 1>to entertain them. So a good thing to entertain them

0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:31.479
<v Speaker 1>is like if you have CDs. Still, young listeners may

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 1>not remember having CD collections, but if you do have

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:38.199
<v Speaker 1>CDs or you know, you can find c ds you

0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:40.439
<v Speaker 1>can just hang those and then they'll pack at them

0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and stuff because they're kind of shiny and they move around.

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:44.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's the thing to do with your lattice. Marisees.

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 1>They also really like, I mean one of the things

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.680
<v Speaker 1>that so I just tore out my what was left

0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 1>of my front lawn in order to grow more stuff,

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and I just tossed all of the the chunks of

0:23:56.840 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 1>like soil and and and there they of pecking at

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that ship. It's like one of their favorite things in

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the world. Yeah, we put them on. I have some

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>planters out back and they're like fen staffs. The chickens

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>carget in and then when we turn them over and

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.919
<v Speaker 1>we like replant them, we'll put them in there and

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>they just go have and they find these huge worms.

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>So I have no idea how they got in there,

0:24:18.280 --> 0:24:20.199
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, they love that stuff. Yeah, and I let

0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 1>him out into the yard periodically, and it's always whenever

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I have to like walk them back in because you

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of just like loop around them to like guide

0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the flock as they move, because they'll kind of instinctively

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:34.200
<v Speaker 1>go away from you if you're walking towards them. Um.

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:36.919
<v Speaker 1>One of my one of my hobbies is to like

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:43.399
<v Speaker 1>pretend to be an old feel like we should stop

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:59.040
<v Speaker 1>this immediately buy some gold. Okay, sometimes I pretend it's

0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 1>the shosh ancor them, and which is where chicken by

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 1>the coast. It's kind of go and show us why

0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 1>bedsheet all of us love having health insurance? Please can

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I can I ask a question about space? So like

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>how much physical room do they need? Like how much

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 1>line do you have to have? So you can look

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 1>at there are pretty good like calculators online. We can

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:27.880
<v Speaker 1>look at how many square yards or whatever you have.

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>But I'm terrible at estimating size. But you know, my, my,

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't have very big garden. You know, we've we've

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:36.679
<v Speaker 1>had up to six chickens. But you do want to

0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>just look it up and it's not like the square

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 1>yardage you have isn't as important as the access they

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>have to stuff? Right? Yeah? Can they get sunlight? Can

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>they be like out in in like something that feels

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:53.680
<v Speaker 1>like you know where a chicken would want to be.

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>But this is this is this is like not something

0:25:56.280 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 1>you can run from an apartment right? No outside? Yeah,

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 1>if you live in an apartment that like has a

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:06.159
<v Speaker 1>yard or something that shared you potentially could, but no,

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>you you do need like some amount of dirt and grass. Essentially,

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:12.640
<v Speaker 1>if you maybe have like a community garden, you can

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:15.359
<v Speaker 1>talk to people about doing it. They're like them, So

0:26:15.440 --> 0:26:18.879
<v Speaker 1>mine just go all around my yard all day and like, uh,

0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 1>you guys have noticed also coming to my office. Um,

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>and then they'll put themselves to bed at night, and

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:27.639
<v Speaker 1>they know where their home is so that they'll just

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:29.879
<v Speaker 1>go back to bed at night. And I want to

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about health, because there are definitely

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 1>some chicken health things and just it's very expensive to

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 1>take chicken sort of vet actually because you have to

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 1>go to an exotic and avian vet, and they're quite

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 1>rare exotic and avian vet. You could take them to

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 1>a regular vet, but most of the time, so actually,

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:51.560
<v Speaker 1>if your chickens get sick, in most states, there's a

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.679
<v Speaker 1>state run helpline you can call and it's free and

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>they'll put you onto a vet right away and they're

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:01.159
<v Speaker 1>very very helpful. And then they're because of the danger

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 1>of different avian flus like infecting large numbers of of

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>of animals. Yeah, does something similar to pen insurance exist

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:13.400
<v Speaker 1>for farm peep farm animals or not? Really it does,

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think you probably wouldn't want to be

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.399
<v Speaker 1>investing it out for your chicken. So I give you

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're breeding livestock, and that's the thing you can have,

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 1>um And you know, one of the things you do

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>have to keep in mind is that at some point

0:27:26.240 --> 0:27:28.920
<v Speaker 1>you will have to kill them, um, you know, because

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 1>they will get old enough or sick enough, and some

0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>form of euthanasia will wind up being kinder than continuing

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>to like let them be um. Like, That's just that's

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 1>true of any kind of livestock, right, at some point

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>you have to if you don't just want to let

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>it die naturally, which again in a lot of cases,

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 1>will be prolonging it suffering. You you do have to

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 1>be willing to take care of that one way or

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the other. Yeah, Like you can give them the best

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:56.680
<v Speaker 1>life you can give them and look often for them

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 1>as you can, but often times here they will or

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>they'll get hurt, right, like if somebody still get injured.

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a good reality to remind people of that.

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like, it's actually like a serious thing to have

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:09.640
<v Speaker 1>a chicken and then be responsible for its life and death.

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 1>And also like the egg comes out of their butth hole, right,

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>so it's covered. Well, it's it's not just like cartoon

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.360
<v Speaker 1>and chicken playing, you know what I mean. Like I think, yeah,

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a while ago, um, but it's not that game

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.199
<v Speaker 1>everyone playing in COVID where you're in the island and

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>you build stuff and yeah, I just think people usually

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 1>are really flipping with stuff like like, yeah, you know,

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a living animal, and like you have to take

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 1>care of it, and it's your responsibility, right the storm,

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Like you need to think about that. You don't want

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>to let the bumholes get too poopy. We're talking about health.

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>So they can get worm that way, and that's really bad.

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 1>So if you see that, just just pick them up

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>and they'll be And that's this is why you want

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>to handle them when they're young, so that you can

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>handle them with stuff like this. So like I'll just

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 1>pick them up and use a spray bottle or a

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>little hose with a bit of warm water and and

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>they they don't mind that at all, and at least

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>they don't give me any ship. And but you want

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 1>to look up some of the common things you're going

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 1>to see gape worm. It's called gape one because they'll

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>gape you. You'll see them gaping. They can be egg bound,

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:13.719
<v Speaker 1>and then depending on where you are, right, they can

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>be too hot too cold. You do need to make

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 1>sure they have shade. I found this thing. I found

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>it someone was moving out. It's like a it's like

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>a mister, but like they have at restaurants. You know

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>when you go to a restaurant in l A and

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>it's hot and seven annoying wetness. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Yeah,

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I've ever been to like an amusement park and like

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>a like a lie and they sometimes have them too

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>sometimes in the like fruit and vegetables when there. But

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 1>that's the only restaurants not inside outside misters to make

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it if you're in Phoenix or somewhere, yeah yeah, yeah,

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>so I've got one of those. And you can find

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>lots of ship by the way, like if you're if

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you live in a place that's gentrifying, like unfortunately has

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>happened in the park San Diego I live in. Like like,

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>for instance, all the wood for my chicken keeping paid

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>for their ship. Like there's rich people doing stuff to houses.

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't need to be done, just like obtain wood

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>from their building sites. Yeah, and obtain it's it's it's

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>like those powles of bricks, and they didn't want you

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.040
<v Speaker 1>to use them. They wouldn't leave it out there. Yeah,

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and why I would live with Warren have sent the

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>pallets of Brits if you didn't want to use and

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>so uh yeah, obviously, like health wise, like I said,

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 1>you want to make sure you have that purple spray

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>on hand. You want to be giving them some electrolytes

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and their water. You want to make sure they have

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>shade if it's hot and their coop is warm, like

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>they don't like it much below freezing. Like yeah, I

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>keep like a heat lamp basically all winter in there

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>with with a red bulb so it doesn't like upset

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>their their sleep patterns. Yeah. People, the way battery people

0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 1>do it, like battery chickens is they they they do

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 1>more day night cycles using artificial light to to make

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:05.479
<v Speaker 1>the chickens lay more if you see what I mean,

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 1>and the chickens will lay an accelerated rate. I'll keep

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>them laying during the winter, be doing that that's not

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>particularly good for the birds. And I let them rest

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>this winter. Yeah, let them you know, they're animals. They

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't just exist to provide your food.

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Like a question on this, like how cold is there

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:28.000
<v Speaker 1>like a point it gets in the winter where it's

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>like you probably shouldn't have them. We just want to

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>keep the coup warm. And then like so like when

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>we were at Tenacious unicorn ranch, right and they have chickens.

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how cold it was, but I went

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>to bed every night with analgene full of boiling water

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and when I woke up, I was hugging an ice

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 1>baby like it was yeah, the heat so where I

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>was staking and work the first time. So it was

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>called a f and the chickens had a nice warm

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>coupe with a heat lamp and they they were fine.

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you can. I mean people keep chickens in every

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 1>imaginable climate, so you get as long as you're careful

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>about making sure you know that you have a warm

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>place for them to sleep, they will be okay. Yeah,

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>and you can can Can you let them out in

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the snow and stuff or should you? Yeah? You know, yeah,

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>they have fun with that. There's it's snowed yesterday and

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>like chickens are having a great time out. Yeah, they

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:24.479
<v Speaker 1>like you actually like they'll run like I remember at

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>home this snow and yeah, and talks when you're buying

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the chickens, right, like consider that in your breed choice,

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>like something going to do're going to do. Some of

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>them are gonna not like heat and honestly, like one

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 1>of the better things you can do in that situation.

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>If you're like if I live in some weird ass

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>part of the world where it's freezing half the time,

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>just google like keeping backyard chickens whatever the name of

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 1>your area is, and then Reddit and yeah, you will

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>find people talking on yeah, yeah, I've gotten this is

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the this is the breed that I picked, and this

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>is what I do. And people love to talk about

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>the chicken. So yeah, to crack you out your into

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 1>read it was one of my resources that exactly. It's

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a good place to look. Yeah, So if you have

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>a cupe, you're gonna want to clean it, right, you

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>can use that chicken pooper's fertilizer. It's some of the

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>best in the world. So then if you're if you're

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>into this sort of you know, like growing your own

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>food and this all works well, right, you give the

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 1>chicken to scraps chicken to make you eggs and poop.

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>You put that into your plants. You have nice plants.

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>You want to balance it out. It's a bit acidic,

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I think, just using the ship, so you want to

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>be combusting with other stuff as well, right, checking your

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 1>soil chemistry before you sort of go ham But yes,

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>you can do that. You do want to make sure. Yeah,

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I've got the poultry helpline. We spoke about that. California's

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>is great though, Like, don't hesitate to call the poultry

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>helpline if you need help, Like there's there's people who

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 1>are being paid to help you. And that's normally, like

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I know, like most pet owners, unless they're very wealthy,

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 1>will have had to make horrible decisions about their pets

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 1>health versus their own income when when they've like you know,

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's ship. So that helpline is free, and

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>like rob it said, it's because they're always gaded infectious diseases.

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 1>So take advantage of like your you know, taxpayer funded

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>chicken vat and yeah, give him a call. Um, I

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 1>think I don't know it's in every state, but I

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>know it's in a lot of them, and yeah, go ahead,

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh um, are you going to talk about uh giving

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>them like the shake and bake treatment for uh what

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>do you call it? Um? If they get uh mites?

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, go and go ahead and talk about it.

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:32.759
<v Speaker 1>So you know, chickens can get there's like a skin

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 1>but it's it's it's it's functions similarly to like a

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:38.760
<v Speaker 1>skin infection. There's like little mites that will get on them.

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>You'll notice bald patches. It can be I mean, it's

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>bad for their health obviously, like you would not want

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 1>to be covered in mites. And so there's um. There's

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>this kind of mite killer called promethrin um and the

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 1>way that you you can apply it in a number

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:55.919
<v Speaker 1>of ways, but you basically need to coat the entire chicken.

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 1>It's essentially a white powder. So what we did when

0:34:58.320 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 1>we had to do it is we just took a

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>giant a large feedbag and we filled it with permethrin

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and we we put the chickens in it once at

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>a time and just kind of like give them a

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>little shake so they got covered. You've shaken baking all

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.680
<v Speaker 1>of them, and then they're just like wandering around confused

0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and covered in this white powder. Like what the funk happened.

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 1>It's very funny that it's very fun um. I mean,

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's the best way because they get covered

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 1>very quickly that way. Like there's you know, with mites

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and dust and stuff. You do want to make sure

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that where they're living is not too moist or not

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 1>too dusty. They can get respiratory conditions from that, so

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't, Yeah, you want to make sure that you

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>know they're living in a nice environment. And they also

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 1>like the biggest health thing you're going to see is

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 1>so they will peck at each other, right, especially when

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 1>you first get your birds, they're gonna establish what it's

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>called a pecking order, and which you know people have used,

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>heard and use an advantage and order in which they

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 1>get I didn't know the meeting. I didn't understand what

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 1>that meant completely until right now this moment. It's my

0:35:56.920 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>gift to you, very helpful today. It's a lot of Yeah,

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>it's what they call a knowledge transfer. The Yeah, so

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 1>that they'll do that, they'll pick right, they'll establishing all

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>when you get a new bird, you don't really want

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to introduce one new bird at once, right, So say

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 1>this is how you get fucking conned into having bantams

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>because let's say your your garden can support four chickens,

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.959
<v Speaker 1>and then one of your girls dies and you're sad

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and you want to get more birds. So you're like, well,

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 1>we can't, we can't go to five full size chickens.

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>We'll get bantam for like two half sized chickens. And

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 1>that that is good for the social dynamic because they

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 1>weren't one won't get picked on, one won't be like

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the new girl, and then they pick on her. But

0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 1>then you've got bantams, and then you you just I

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I'm not no, it's not very pro bantam

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and they're just difficult. So how do they establish the

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:44.839
<v Speaker 1>pecking order? They pack at each other and peck at

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>each other. Yeah, and well basically one of the well

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>it's just like any other, like physical confrontation, like they

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:52.399
<v Speaker 1>peck at each other and like, okay, well you're harder

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:54.399
<v Speaker 1>than me, Like I can't you know, I'm not here

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>for that. The back down. Sometimes they will really start

0:36:58.040 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>picking on one and then you do have to separate

0:36:59.880 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 1>them for a while. Um, so I think that you've

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 1>got to watch out for that, and you've got to

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>be viteering and when you first get them, you're going

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.280
<v Speaker 1>to be excited and you're gonna want to go outside

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and then interact with them. So you know you'll be

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:12.280
<v Speaker 1>watching that anyway. So just make sure you have treats

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and stuff and separate them and don't be scared. They

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 1>can't hurt you, the chickens. But um, yeah, it's normal

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 1>of them to peck at each other. You've got to

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.160
<v Speaker 1>keep an eye out for if they do draw blood. Said,

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 1>they are fucking dinosaurs and they will just hone in

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 1>on that, So that's when you have to separate them

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.839
<v Speaker 1>or come in with your purple spray. Um. So yeah,

0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:33.719
<v Speaker 1>you just have to make sure that you're aware of that.

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 1>And they pecked out your leg when it was bleeding,

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 1>does that hurt a little bit? Like you wouldn't do

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>it recreationally? Yeah? People would you know? You yuck? You're young? Yeah,

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>if you are, if you are turned on exactly like

0:37:51.320 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not. They're not like like full body attack that

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I walk in every day to feed my chickens and

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't get peck there anything like they're they're fine. Um,

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 1>they're not like attack animals and chickens by the way

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.879
<v Speaker 1>or like every other creature, some of them are assholes, right,

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 1>like any kind of animal that you have and any

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 1>like just like people, some of them are dick. I remember,

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 1>like on that subject. I was a few years ago.

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I was writing about rattlesnake behavior for his story and

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 1>there's this run fucking rattlesnake which literally every time I

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>ride past it, it's just like bam, like fucking Like.

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to the snake behavior expert and he's like, yeah, man,

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that one's an asshole. Some of them are just don't

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 1>know what to tell you. Just come across a bell

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 1>end like it it is what it is. Um, So yeah,

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 1>if you sometimes he's gonna have a chicken, which is mean,

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>and it just gotta hope that doesn't. You know, you've

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 1>got to make your choice end, right, if it's really

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 1>causing chaos in the flock, like, what are you gonna

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>do with it? Yeah, that may be a chicken that

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>you eat. Um. You know, one of the things you

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>learned keeping chickens is how wildly we have fucked up

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the chickens that we used for meat, because like a

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 1>normal chicken does not produce breast meat that is that size,

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Like that is the size of like a normal grocery

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>store chicken breast. Those are from monsters that we made. Well, yeah,

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>that's like breast meat was popular, so they made that

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.799
<v Speaker 1>that like they inserted like a horborne or whatever to

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>make that part of the chicken grow. And I mean

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I've seen videos of like the chicken toppling over because

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 1>that's so heavy, not supposed to it's madness. It's so sad,

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.400
<v Speaker 1>and then jones are not fully develop like it's very cruel,

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:34.839
<v Speaker 1>Like I am, Yeah, it's sucked up. Yeah, I didn't

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:37.400
<v Speaker 1>eat meat, Like I'm not really like down with the

0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>way the American commercially culture raised animals a toy. I

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 1>grew up on a farm. I could have raised animals

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:45.959
<v Speaker 1>my home with you. I agree touching. Yeah, cheap cheap

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>meatings too. I understand other people. Do you got to

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.440
<v Speaker 1>feature families whatever? And obviously one way or the other.

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:54.240
<v Speaker 1>If you're raising chickens, like and you at some point

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>you know the chicken is going to die if at

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 1>all possible, I think you do kind of have a

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:01.640
<v Speaker 1>responsibility to find some use for that meat. Yeah, it's

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>just that they're sick, in which case yeah, obviously if

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 1>they get like yeah, I had to I had to

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:08.439
<v Speaker 1>kill two last year because they got like some sort

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 1>of avian flu and the state people will come and

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 1>take them away and do an autopsy if if they

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 1>do get sick like that, and so that that's nice

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 1>to know because then you have, you know, do I

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 1>have to worry about the rest of my flock? You

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>know what? What is this? Is there something in the soil?

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 1>It's something I'm feeding them? You know, you can if

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 1>you have concerns like that, it's nice to have them

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 1>do that. That's a really really good note. But yeah,

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>you if you are responsible for them, like and you

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 1>have to give them the best life they can and

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 1>the kind of death, and you know, you're responsible to

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 1>the suffering as little as possible in their little lives.

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:39.839
<v Speaker 1>We used to buy chickens when I was a kid

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:42.840
<v Speaker 1>from a guy who bread chickens for a battery farm,

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and we'd go and get them with chicks and just

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 1>be like you you you you you are going to

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:48.640
<v Speaker 1>run around our farm. Will don't have a wonderful life,

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm so sorry the rest of you have this

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>fucking horrible existence. But it's nice to save some of them.

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be hard to get chickens right now.

0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 1>So my last thing was really like when you're buying chickens,

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 1>right where you're gonna get your chickens from, and so

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>hopefully you know where you live you have like a farm,

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:08.280
<v Speaker 1>shall steal them, liberate them from a battery farm, shoot

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 1>your way in it. It doesn't it's worth it, and

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 1>they have all probably Well I actually think people have

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 1>literally gotten to much of terrorism charges for that. But

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 1>well I think it's pigs, wasn't it that they go? Yeah, yeah,

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 1>chickens are not charismatic enough for people to go to

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 1>prison over. Yeah, I know, it's unfair, it's unfair. It's racism. Really. Yeah.

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 1>If there's one thing we could tell you as a

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 1>group of individuals legally responsible for what we say, i'm

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 1>yourself and liberate poultry. Yeah, fight your way in like

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 1>like the only not the only, but the most concrete

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 1>evidence of like dinosaurs have like now devolved into these chickens,

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Like that is so funny

0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.279
<v Speaker 1>to me that out of all the animals, that is

0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:56.279
<v Speaker 1>the closest thing we have to a dinosaur, that is

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 1>a dinosaurs and again their favorite food as their own kind.

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 1>And also like like they will like every now and

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 1>then I will give them some of their eggs just

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:07.799
<v Speaker 1>because it makes them so happy to eat. Well, I

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>was gonna ask, like what you said that it tasted

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:11.919
<v Speaker 1>different when you gave them meat, Like what is the

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:13.840
<v Speaker 1>difference that you caught in the taste when they do

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 1>eat their own eggs versus like just the feed. Oh no,

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean their their own eggs, don't. I've never fed

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 1>them enough for it to be a meaningful component of

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 1>their diet. They will eat scrambled eggs and cheese. They

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>like to you know, when they're sick. Can you can

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you like taste a difference if you give them herbs,

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 1>so like one thing that people do is give them

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 1>little bundles of herbs and you can taste that in

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the egg. Yeah, it just kind of richer, you know.

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>When you it's like you'll notice different, like if you

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:45.800
<v Speaker 1>if they are calcium deficient, the eggs are really fragile.

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 1>And if they have a shipload of calcium in their diet,

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 1>like my eggs are, like you have to like you

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:55.399
<v Speaker 1>have to want to crack those fuckers. If you feed

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the flax seeds. Then the eggs have a higher Amiga

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>three content. Like if you have it's like it makes sense,

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 1>it's super interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can. You can

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:05.839
<v Speaker 1>give them flag seats and like that kind of thing.

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 1>You can mess with their diet bit and they they

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:11.359
<v Speaker 1>like that stuff. So yeah, when you're buying them, what

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 1>you want, I think is the beginner is like a

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>point of labored and you can say point of flay

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:18.319
<v Speaker 1>and that's what they'll give you. Know that they're going

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:19.719
<v Speaker 1>to try and give you pullets or they're going to

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>try and say it's nice to raise chicks, but it is.

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>It's really nice to raise chicks, but some of them

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 1>will die and that will be upsetting for you, and um,

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 1>it's hard because again work. That's a general note any

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 1>life time. If you if you decide that you want

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 1>to be a person who has live stock, you have

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>to be okay with them dying and it being an

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:42.280
<v Speaker 1>experience that is more direct to you than like obviously

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not as emotional as like when a catterat

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 1>dog dies, but it will not involve a vet with

0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:50.359
<v Speaker 1>the kind of frequency that like a dying pet does.

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Like you will have to deal with you know, animals die,

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>because animals just die. Sometimes they wind up with the

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 1>same kind of ailments people have. For like an animal's

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:00.360
<v Speaker 1>hard will give out or something. And you didn't do

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:03.360
<v Speaker 1>anything wrong. It's just an animal was born with a

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 1>heart defect. Right, It's just like a thing that occurs

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 1>if you have enough animals. Yeah, we used to say,

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.880
<v Speaker 1>if you have life stock, you have dead stock one day. Yeah,

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 1>like it's just something you have to face up to.

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 1>But like someone else is already doing that ship and

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:18.839
<v Speaker 1>they're probably doing it with less compassion than you. You're

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.799
<v Speaker 1>buying you know, warm out eggs. So you let I

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 1>say you you can't, You're not God, but like you

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 1>owe these animals like a decent life. And yeah, it's

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>a little suffering as you can. So yeah, by the

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 1>point of leg chickens, make sure that their sex right

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:34.760
<v Speaker 1>you you don't want to restie. You might not legally

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 1>be able to have a rooster. And then something like

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a dog container. It's fine. I brought them home in

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 1>a shoe box before, Like I'll just put them next

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to me in my truck. And they're pretty chill that

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:46.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, give them, give them a little bit of water,

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 1>in there, but generally they don't, you know, want to drink.

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 1>You can kind of swaddle them. I've seen people swaddle them, um,

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 1>you know if they're really panicking or whatever, and swaddling

0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like when you wrap them like you would with

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a baby, and people do that, I know, when they

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<v Speaker 1>have to move them in like a hurricane to try

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<v Speaker 1>and calm them down. But I've always just put them

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<v Speaker 1>in a dog container. Are we going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>storing eggs? Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because people don't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a weird American thing. Yeah, so this doesn't happen

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<v Speaker 1>in the rest of the world. But you guys get

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<v Speaker 1>your eggs refrigerated, and that's because they're washed before they

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<v Speaker 1>come to Yeah, you don't need to do this normally. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't wash your eggs, nor should you refrigerate them.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I have a little helter skelter thing, and it

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<v Speaker 1>just looks like a spiral, right, and you put the

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<v Speaker 1>egg on the top and it just rolls its little

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<v Speaker 1>way down and it gets to the bottom and that

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<v Speaker 1>way I always take them from the bottom, and that

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<v Speaker 1>way I'm always sort of getting the oldest eggs first,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't end up with like one at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the basket, right, so you don't them no,

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<v Speaker 1>just just bring it not until you're ready to eat them. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>wash them before you cook them, because some of them

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<v Speaker 1>will have poop and stuff on them right right before that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just keep them normal and then lost for months like that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there are there you can there are a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of other ways to Obviously you could pickle them, be

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<v Speaker 1>very careful with that. If you are canning them, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I would recommend just pickling them and putting them in

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<v Speaker 1>the fridge because eggs in like hard boiled eggs in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>are troublesome to can because there's always if you think

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<v Speaker 1>about hard boiled eggs, there's always like a little bitty

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<v Speaker 1>cracks and like the white of the egg and that

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<v Speaker 1>is where botulism can live. So be extremely careful if

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<v Speaker 1>you are pickling eggs. Um, just I would recommend don't

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, can them specifically, just pickle them and

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<v Speaker 1>put them in the fridge and you know, the less

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good amount of time. Yeah, pickled eggs are delicious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>is the is the thing about not refrigerating the eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>do you actually still have to refrigerate, like if you

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<v Speaker 1>use the store if yes, you can in this country. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you can roll them in vegetable oil and I think ash,

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<v Speaker 1>which replicates the way that they have a membrane on

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<v Speaker 1>that and but very fair like all intended if you're

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<v Speaker 1>buying them, yeah, yeah, when they come out like a

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<v Speaker 1>little pole basically yeah, like it's kind of fills to

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<v Speaker 1>pause on the outside of the egg, I think because

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<v Speaker 1>I understand it. So if you really wanted to store them,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't have access to refrigerator, you could do the

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<v Speaker 1>actual thing. You should look it up. The other thing

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<v Speaker 1>you can do that is because again, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>any quantity of chickens, there's a good chance that they

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<v Speaker 1>will produce, like I have a problem with this, significantly

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<v Speaker 1>more eggs than you can consume. An interesting way to

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna talk about water glassing? Oh you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it there? Yeah, that you can look like look

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<v Speaker 1>it up. I'm not going to give you a guide

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<v Speaker 1>over this because preserving stuff is something that you should

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<v Speaker 1>take care on. But you can google water glassing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>basically a way you can keep eggs for like up

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<v Speaker 1>to a year. That way, um in like crack able

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<v Speaker 1>friable condition. But I think we are getting the note

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<v Speaker 1>that James and I should stop talking about chickens for now.

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<v Speaker 1>Continue in another episode, James, and we'll talk about chickens

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<v Speaker 1>privately after this. And you are pretty James said it.

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<v Speaker 1>People love to talk about their chickens. They do me

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<v Speaker 1>talk about chickens. Yeah. Yeah, Maybe let's start a side

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<v Speaker 1>podcast for Patreon reasons, Chicken Cast, Chicken Cast Anyway, poultry pod.

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<v Speaker 1>Until next time, take a lesson from the chickens and

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<v Speaker 1>eat your own young Okay, oh my god. It could

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