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Speaker 1: actually today we are talking about um collapse, but not
Speaker 1: the collapse of the economy, because the economy is kind
Speaker 1: of always collapsing. That's part of what makes it the economy. Instead,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the fact that the market for eggs
Speaker 1: has gotten insane. People are paying crazy prices for huevos
Speaker 1: these days. Um, and there's there's no no good reason
Speaker 1: for it, obviously, Like it's the you know, egg production
Speaker 1: in some places was like impacted by the bird flu,
Speaker 1: but that is not why eggs have gotten more expensive.
Speaker 1: It's pure corporate greed. But regardless of that, people are
Speaker 1: finding themselves thinking about like, wow, eggs are expensive as hell.
Speaker 1: Should I maybe get some chickens? Um? And today we
Speaker 1: have several chicken owners on the podcast, myself and James Stout,
Speaker 1: and several people who don't have chickens but our chicken
Speaker 1: que rheus. So we're going to talk about having chickens. James, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I've been training for this my whole life.
Speaker 1: So this this was your idea, so Vents is very
Speaker 1: much my baby. So if you guys just want to
Speaker 1: sit back and learn about chickens, your baby James or
Speaker 1: your egg Well that's the thing, isn't it. Robert one
Speaker 1: could be the other. I've given enough time. People have
Speaker 1: talked about this. I've heard. Yeah, it's been a discussion
Speaker 1: for some time in the chicken community. All right, it's
Speaker 1: talking about chickens. So I want to start out with like,
Speaker 1: if you're thinking about getting chickens, and I have written
Speaker 1: a script for this, thank you. Yeah, I'm ready to roll.
Speaker 1: So the most important thing obviously when you're getting animals,
Speaker 1: you're getting any animals, is like that you're responsible for
Speaker 1: a living thing and you have to take care of it,
Speaker 1: and you have to be kind to it, and you
Speaker 1: have to treat it well and make sure that if
Speaker 1: you're not able to look after it, like if you
Speaker 1: travel a lot for work and someone else can write.
Speaker 1: And I think chickens are particularly useless or they're useful
Speaker 1: and they're very nice that they're not like the most
Speaker 1: practical animals, like if you if you leave them alone,
Speaker 1: they will die. If it gets too hot, they will die,
Speaker 1: if it gets too cold, they will die. Um, Like,
Speaker 1: you do have to look after them. They're not like
Speaker 1: a wild animal that comes in sometimes in lace eggs,
Speaker 1: Like they are an extremely domesticated animal that's been domesticated
Speaker 1: for probably thousands of years. So it's a responsibility. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm just gonna I'm gonna go through some of
Speaker 1: my stuff. If you guys have any questions, as we
Speaker 1: like move along, please feel free to ask him. I
Speaker 1: want to start out with the breeds of chickens, which
Speaker 1: I think are a good idea. And so when you're
Speaker 1: looking at chickens, so The first thing you don't want
Speaker 1: to look at if your space right, like how much
Speaker 1: space do I have? And there are websites where you
Speaker 1: can calculate, like working with your acreage or or how
Speaker 1: many yards you have? How many chickens are appropriate, James,
Speaker 1: the level of prepper and the stuff is beautiful. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy because I will I will note be
Speaker 1: be careful about getting too many. When I got the
Speaker 1: place that I got, I inherited fourteen chicken and that
Speaker 1: is a tremendous quantity of chickens. And and there was
Speaker 1: especially chickens make you know, kind of in their prime.
Speaker 1: Egg laying can make one. Sometimes some chickens will do
Speaker 1: to a day. So there were weeks where I was
Speaker 1: getting like close to a hundred eggs, which is far more,
Speaker 1: far more eggs than a human being can possibly consume.
Speaker 1: That you can consume, I can consume a hundred eggs.
Speaker 1: Well they will, they will consume you. I will mail
Speaker 1: you eggs always more eggs. Eggs are like eight I
Speaker 1: walked into a grocery store. Okay, I'm i'm, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: now doing the bit. I walked through the grocery store
Speaker 1: in the eggs where eight fifty and I was like,
Speaker 1: what the fund is going on here? Man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a fucking bank. I have like literally
Speaker 1: sixty eggs sitting in my kitchen right now, going to
Speaker 1: sell eggs in the dark web. You goddamn right. This
Speaker 1: is how I fucking leave this this damn podcasting bullshit behind.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna become the egg man switches. Finally, I used
Speaker 1: for cryptocurrency egg coin. It's actually it's tied to the
Speaker 1: value of eggs. As you completely collapsed. Um, yeah, don't
Speaker 1: don't over chicken yourself like starting out, but also don't
Speaker 1: get too few. You do want at least three. They'll
Speaker 1: be sad or they won't get along. And if you
Speaker 1: if you're like a normal household, three is probably a
Speaker 1: great number of chickens. Like you, you will probably be
Speaker 1: quite happy with three to four chickens. Yeah, you'll get
Speaker 1: like if you estimate like six eggs per chicken per week,
Speaker 1: it's like a fair kind of estimate. They'll take some
Speaker 1: time off during the year or with seasons change or
Speaker 1: molten stuff, So eighteen eggs, like, yeah, you're getting pretty
Speaker 1: hard in a normal household. You've eating that many. So
Speaker 1: I think if you start people like to think that
Speaker 1: they should get bantams to off with, Do we know
Speaker 1: what bantams are? Non chicken understanding. I have a lot
Speaker 1: of chickens, but I don't know any thing about the
Speaker 1: kind of chickens. So we've had a few bantams. They're
Speaker 1: not great, to be honest, like bantams are mostly showing birds,
Speaker 1: So it's a smaller chicken. Think of it as like
Speaker 1: a half sized chicken, right, um, And if you've seen
Speaker 1: like a really fancy and you can go ahead and
Speaker 1: google some bantams like yeah really little, yeah, really pretty.
Speaker 1: I like to I like large chickens. Now, look, I
Speaker 1: don't engage in cock fighting. I think it's a moral,
Speaker 1: but I like to know theoretically, if they had to,
Speaker 1: my chickens could handle themselves in a fight. Did anybody
Speaker 1: ever think Robert would be like you, I'm a big
Speaker 1: chicken guyable it's yeah, you want big chickens. Some breeds
Speaker 1: to look for, orpingtons like buff Orpington's and you can
Speaker 1: remember that big buff and great ass chickens. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: could get a yoke to Orpington, get get a hench
Speaker 1: rhode island red. People in America don't say hench, but yeah,
Speaker 1: we used to have a couple of those. So one
Speaker 1: of the things about bantams is you can't get them
Speaker 1: point of lace. The point of lay is when they've
Speaker 1: been sexed. Right, so you know that they're girls and
Speaker 1: they they come to you just to when they're about
Speaker 1: to lay, right, and you don't. Generally you get bantams
Speaker 1: younger and you don't get them sexed. So in our case,
Speaker 1: we had one. She she crowed a lot, so I
Speaker 1: thought she's a rooster. She wasn't. Any other one was
Speaker 1: a rooster. So yeah, that's god be my question. Do
Speaker 1: you need to get a rooster? Also? No, so the
Speaker 1: chicken regardless, I can't. I don't understand how that works. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the chickens are gonna lay regardless, right, that's just
Speaker 1: like how they can do. That's that's the eggs on fertilized. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they won't make chickens, they will be babies. Okay,
Speaker 1: I get it, I get like a human doing it them.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of like their equivalent
Speaker 1: of a menstruation effectively. Yeah, I know that. Now everything's
Speaker 1: coming back to me as far as like began talking points.
Speaker 1: Go chickens, by the way, because chickens are as James said,
Speaker 1: these are animals and you have to take good care
Speaker 1: of them. That is your responsibility. You do low key
Speaker 1: realize the longer you have them. But they're monsters, like
Speaker 1: their favorite food is their own kind. They have at
Speaker 1: each other kids. Yeah, so like, don't go outside with
Speaker 1: your chickens. Like the other day I was, I was
Speaker 1: cutting down some some bushes and I had was wearing
Speaker 1: shorts a little cut from the from the thorn. When
Speaker 1: they see blood, they are just like fucking does that
Speaker 1: affect the egg? Like, yeah, I mean what you made them? So? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we butchered a deer last year and we wound
Speaker 1: up with a lot of like deer fat and kind
Speaker 1: of like meat that you gave it to the chickens. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we had some stuff because the deer had been hit
Speaker 1: by a car. There was some meat we couldn't eat,
Speaker 1: so we wound up giving several pounds of meat to
Speaker 1: the chickens and those eggs fucking ruled. Okay, it's not
Speaker 1: advised to feed them, dear, But yeah, so you wanted stuff. Actually,
Speaker 1: if you so they do believe. There's a stuff called
Speaker 1: purple spray. I'm sure it's not what it's actually called,
Speaker 1: but it's purple and it's a spray, and you can
Speaker 1: we already called it purple spray. You can spray on
Speaker 1: them and it just stops it looking like blood. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's like an antibiotic or maybe an antiseptic, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you could spray that on the chicken. So like one
Speaker 1: of mine, she's just got this little thing on her
Speaker 1: wing that opens up every now and again, and I
Speaker 1: just make sure I spray that and that stops her
Speaker 1: from the other ones from pecking her. Right, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: they have to be. We had a last year some
Speaker 1: kind of animal, I think it was probably a like
Speaker 1: a like a possum or something, I don't really know.
Speaker 1: Some kind of animal gotten to the the coop and attacked
Speaker 1: my chickens and we had I had one chicken. We
Speaker 1: called it the anarchists chicken because it could always escape.
Speaker 1: It like never was in the cage um. And when
Speaker 1: when they got attacked, the Anarchists chicken leapt to defend
Speaker 1: the rest of the flock and fought off whatever it
Speaker 1: was that attacked. But she wound up with a hole
Speaker 1: in her side, and so I like took her and
Speaker 1: I addressed the wound, and I put her back in
Speaker 1: the cage, and they all immediately tried to I want
Speaker 1: to have a separate Yeah, yeah, yeah, I that was
Speaker 1: the lesson that I learned. I had to take her
Speaker 1: out because yeah, we have a tiny rabbit hutch that
Speaker 1: we use. It's called the Meryl Peep Memorial Chicken Hospital
Speaker 1: because Mery's not about chickens who died. And you just
Speaker 1: put put them in that for a few days until
Speaker 1: they're better, and then then they can reintegrate. It's fine,
Speaker 1: And so I did. We're very we've we've made very
Speaker 1: little progress on my script. Okay, so sorry, you want
Speaker 1: to get buffal Pinkton's right down and reads a good
Speaker 1: plymouth rocks. Americanas are nice. Have you guys seen those?
Speaker 1: If we don't have, If we don't, I don't know
Speaker 1: anything about talking about what do they teach you in school? Um? Like?
Speaker 1: So they're called Easter eggers. Sometimes they lay different colored
Speaker 1: eggs like Pastel's colored eggs like blue and green eggs.
Speaker 1: Have you not been exposed to this at all? No?
Speaker 1: I get up extra cornfield. But also I I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess I was a round a farm, but we
Speaker 1: didn't interact with the chickens because you don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1: They were like here de old cows instead. That was like,
Speaker 1: chickens are good, don't go dive straight into cattle if
Speaker 1: you're getting into animal husband But yeah, americanasun say ladies
Speaker 1: colored eggs. One of my friends dad's had them when
Speaker 1: I was a kid, and he made bank selling them
Speaker 1: around Easter. So yeah, if you're looking to get into
Speaker 1: your chicken hustle. And then leg horns are like really good.
Speaker 1: They're like hardy chickens, but they are allowed. So if
Speaker 1: you live near people, um, I would consider not. You
Speaker 1: should also check your local laws, Like where I live,
Speaker 1: you can't have a rooster. You can have up to
Speaker 1: five chickens within city limits. You can't have a rooster.
Speaker 1: You don't really want a rooster have chicks. And one
Speaker 1: of the things roosters can do is like peck at
Speaker 1: your chickens and effectively like were holes in there, like
Speaker 1: yeah that they wind up like parts. Yeah, their little
Speaker 1: sons of bitches. We harvested ours as soon as I
Speaker 1: got the place, and yeah, that's that's the term. This
Speaker 1: leads into a question that I've been wanting to ask,
Speaker 1: which is that, Okay, it is my under is my
Speaker 1: firm belief that I could defeed a chicken in single
Speaker 1: combat it would send me to the hospital. But apparently
Speaker 1: this is the thing you need to do with your chickens.
Speaker 1: So how how practical is it to defeed a chicken
Speaker 1: in single combat if you have to extract another chicken
Speaker 1: or something. I've never actually had any kind of aggression
Speaker 1: from my chickens. When I'm bleeding, they'll peck my leg.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, while we we hadn't realized that,
Speaker 1: like they so I think that you want when you
Speaker 1: get chickens, it's a rodent proof freedom, right, So you
Speaker 1: don't want to just put the food in the bowl
Speaker 1: if you have an issue with rodent's you want to
Speaker 1: have a things like basically, she comes up, she stands
Speaker 1: on a step and that opens up the feeder and
Speaker 1: she can pack and eat, right, And you want to
Speaker 1: get a road and proof feeder. You can just buy
Speaker 1: them attract to supply. But I was gummed up with
Speaker 1: rain and we didn't realize and the chickens are obviously
Speaker 1: not getting food. They're upset with this, so they would
Speaker 1: attack me every time I came outside, like, they'd attack
Speaker 1: me and I'd be like, go away. So I'd give
Speaker 1: them treats, right, I give them like worms and apples.
Speaker 1: A kitten has arrived, I have to. She was wasting
Speaker 1: to hold or to be held. I'm holding my cat
Speaker 1: for anyone, that's like, what's happening. She just wanted to
Speaker 1: be snuggled. That's okay, she's given your kiars um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you the mind would attack me for a while,
Speaker 1: and I just gave them meal worms when they would
Speaker 1: attack me. So unconsciously I was reinforcing the attacking behavior,
Speaker 1: and so they would attack me for a while. But
Speaker 1: I think you could take them. Just keep swinging and yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't. You know, you don't have to. They're very
Speaker 1: like most of the time, at least mine. I hand
Speaker 1: feed them. So like a nice treat for them is
Speaker 1: I'll cut a melon in half and I'll chase Sharne
Speaker 1: because she's allergic to melons, and you just hold it
Speaker 1: out and they'll come and eat it. And they they
Speaker 1: love scraps like that's often like what I do with
Speaker 1: basically all of my food waste is give it to
Speaker 1: the chickens, and they tend to be very happy with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very it's a very sustainable thing. Let's get onto space.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about before, before, before, before we
Speaker 1: get into this. I speaking of sustainability. Do you know
Speaker 1: who else is incredibly sustainable? I don't think we can
Speaker 1: say capitalism? Yes, inherently, so shiny stuff, it will last
Speaker 1: a thousand years. All right, we're back. Buy some gold.
Speaker 1: Buy some gold. Want to re enforce it, because gold,
Speaker 1: when you're starving, will be more useful than chickens because
Speaker 1: it's shiny. That's right, That's right. It'll make you forget
Speaker 1: that you're slowly starving. And it's the foundation of all
Speaker 1: of this. Ship's shiny. Okay um, yeah, so don't have
Speaker 1: shiny things. I want to talking about chicken coopes, because
Speaker 1: there's a shiny thing sectional. I love a good coop.
Speaker 1: I do love to make a coop. I'd have to
Speaker 1: buy a cooper, have to help my friends buy coops.
Speaker 1: It's just it's a it's a great conversation area anyway.
Speaker 1: So they do need a coupe. They need a place
Speaker 1: where they can go at night, and you want it
Speaker 1: to be shut off from predators, right, so you don't
Speaker 1: want your possum, your raccoon, and your fox, your stout,
Speaker 1: your weasel, fare whatever whatever you're dealing with snake. Um. So,
Speaker 1: once you get above three chickens, you might have more
Speaker 1: than one nesting box in there. But like this doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily mean that you need to go out and buy
Speaker 1: You can buy them on Amazon now, but they're quite
Speaker 1: expensive and they're often quite ship like the pre made
Speaker 1: chicken coops are very poor quality. Like if you have
Speaker 1: a shed or a kennel or something like that, you
Speaker 1: can pretty easily make it into a coupe and you
Speaker 1: can just put a drop down door on the front
Speaker 1: so you can close them in at night and let
Speaker 1: them out in the morning. And or I've seen people
Speaker 1: use like drawers, you know, like like dresses, just open
Speaker 1: those and use them as nesting boxes. And you want
Speaker 1: to put down some straw in your nesting books. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have I think four for the chickens that I
Speaker 1: have now, which is about I think we've got about
Speaker 1: eleven um And there they are. Two of them are
Speaker 1: large enough for two at a time, and then two
Speaker 1: of them are smaller, although chickens all and and sometimes
Speaker 1: one of the things you have to do occasionally is
Speaker 1: come in and like take them out of the some
Speaker 1: of them out of the nesting boxes. Some of them
Speaker 1: get like stuck in a loop. Where did they get broody? Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, And so you just I just like take
Speaker 1: them out and set them down where there's like some
Speaker 1: stuff to peck at, and they seem to It kind
Speaker 1: of resets their little chicken brains. Silky Bantams, which are
Speaker 1: one of the like show bantams get Rudy is fun
Speaker 1: and it's like I've had friends who have had him,
Speaker 1: and they will they will not eat and not drink
Speaker 1: because it's just like, no, I'm sitting on this egg,
Speaker 1: like you can't stop me. And you have to lock
Speaker 1: them out of there. There's not even an egg there, chicken,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? Yeah, well they'll take another chicken's egg. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just yeah. Or even like silky it's cute. Look them
Speaker 1: up there, they're real, they're flu furs. They're very cute.
Speaker 1: So you want to build them a run to write
Speaker 1: a place where they can say if you run around
Speaker 1: and have their food, have their water, And I would
Speaker 1: suggest using construction netting when you build a run broy
Speaker 1: that people called chicken wire, which is like maybe one
Speaker 1: inch size holes, but like a lot of stuff can
Speaker 1: get through that. You'd be amazed, like rats, my snakes
Speaker 1: can all get through that. And use construction netting, which
Speaker 1: is like maybe I'm not very good at inches, but
Speaker 1: like about one cent to me to size a lot less.
Speaker 1: He's going to get through it. And you might want
Speaker 1: to bury it down to like a foot or two
Speaker 1: below the run if you're building something permanent, just because
Speaker 1: things can't dig underneath, like a we had a foxtic
Speaker 1: underneath when I was a kid, and don't it's preferable
Speaker 1: to do that to putting on the floor of your
Speaker 1: run because they don't like the little wire and their
Speaker 1: little feet. Yeah no, no, definitely not on the You
Speaker 1: want them to have access to dirt and ideally sometimes
Speaker 1: grass too. One thing that they because I will let
Speaker 1: them out sometimes during the day and I have a
Speaker 1: barn that has like like it's kind of dust in there,
Speaker 1: like not dust um almost like almost like sandy dry dirt.
Speaker 1: And one of their favorite things, especially during the summer,
Speaker 1: is to just kind of like sit down and rub. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that make it all up in the like, and they
Speaker 1: kind of need to be able to do some version
Speaker 1: of that in order to be like healthy. Otherwise they yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's good for them, it's good for their skin,
Speaker 1: it's good for them existing. Yeah, it's good for their
Speaker 1: mental health. I think that like people keep kicking their
Speaker 1: terrible conditions commercially, but it doesn't mean you have an
Speaker 1: excuse to. So when I when I got these chickens,
Speaker 1: they had been the people who'd have them before. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the funk was wrong with them. They
Speaker 1: had a sizeable outside run, but whoever, the folks who
Speaker 1: had them had covered the entire bottom in stone, so
Speaker 1: they were just like living on stone when we know
Speaker 1: they were. They were in a horrible shape. And when
Speaker 1: I when we harvested the rooster, his gizzard was full
Speaker 1: of automotive glass, like, yeah, it was fucked up. It
Speaker 1: was I spent because they all had they all had
Speaker 1: huge patches of them that like we're bald um. I
Speaker 1: mean we we we dealt with that, partially by getting
Speaker 1: rid of the rooster and partially by making sure we
Speaker 1: gave them I was I still do mix in um
Speaker 1: oyster shell bits with the calcium is good for them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you'll know if they need that, Like they stopped
Speaker 1: coming and he startually really dangerous, like an egg can
Speaker 1: rupture inside if they're laying it and that can be fatal.
Speaker 1: So you want to make sure, um, if we just
Speaker 1: we can cover a few quickly, I guess. And so
Speaker 1: they do like to grub for worms and stuff like that, right,
Speaker 1: look for insects and they love to have scraps. But
Speaker 1: for laying chicken, you want to make sure it's getting
Speaker 1: a decent based diet of layers pellets, which should be
Speaker 1: like somewhere between six protein which sorry, what what kind
Speaker 1: of pellets? Layer pellets? Yeah, there's a number of brands
Speaker 1: of it, but yeah, they're called layer pellets. Yeah, some
Speaker 1: of them will already have oyster shell and grit and
Speaker 1: like Robert said, they do need those. If not, you
Speaker 1: can augment them, but it's probably gonna be easier to
Speaker 1: just get one sack and just dump it all in.
Speaker 1: They do need access to water as well that they
Speaker 1: can get out all day. I think it's better to
Speaker 1: use like a nipple type drinker, which is a you
Speaker 1: can take a bucket, any bucket right fill it up
Speaker 1: and then you put these little nipples and they just
Speaker 1: get their red and again they like to peck it
Speaker 1: red stuff, so they'll peck at them and then they
Speaker 1: get and that stops. Like you know, they can't put
Speaker 1: their feet in the water and get their ship from
Speaker 1: their feet in the water and get sick, like then
Speaker 1: they're not clean animals. So just if you do that,
Speaker 1: And then I like to put a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: hot where I live in San Diego, so I put
Speaker 1: a little bit of electrolyte stuff in there for them
Speaker 1: and they don't seem to mind, and it just seems
Speaker 1: to help. And then yeah, like it's it's good to
Speaker 1: you can feed them kitchen straps, but you don't want
Speaker 1: to overload them, especially on carb stuff, like they do
Speaker 1: need enough protein to keep up there laying and they
Speaker 1: definitely need enough calcium. And one thing I would say
Speaker 1: if you're if you're going to buy something, if you're
Speaker 1: going to buy a chicken coop, there's a company called
Speaker 1: egg Glue, which is like iglobe egg. They make some
Speaker 1: really nice pre fab coups that are pretty good, and
Speaker 1: you can buy an attachment which puts a little door
Speaker 1: on it. That it uses a solar panel I guess
Speaker 1: to charge itself, and then it will open at daylight
Speaker 1: and close at sunset. And so if you're the sort
Speaker 1: of person who knows that, you'll forget to bring your
Speaker 1: chickens in. Obviously they're you know, they're at risk at
Speaker 1: night from predation and things, and they become completely fucking
Speaker 1: useless at night when they go to sleep. You can
Speaker 1: pick them up and turn them upside down and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: my interior, the coot the interior of my coupe hairs.
Speaker 1: It's cute. It's basically like a ladder, like a like
Speaker 1: a very wide ladder going up the side of the
Speaker 1: building and they just all stand on like it's like
Speaker 1: a group of twenty, like a different levels of the
Speaker 1: ladder just sit there as they as they sleep at night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they need to step on it, that's a good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mind you can't just on the floor. Yeah, they don't
Speaker 1: like just being in the dirt. And then like something
Speaker 1: to entertain them. So a good thing to entertain them
Speaker 1: is like if you have CDs. Still, young listeners may
Speaker 1: not remember having CD collections, but if you do have
Speaker 1: CDs or you know, you can find c ds you
Speaker 1: can just hang those and then they'll pack at them
Speaker 1: and stuff because they're kind of shiny and they move around.
Speaker 1: So it's the thing to do with your lattice. Marisees.
Speaker 1: They also really like, I mean one of the things
Speaker 1: that so I just tore out my what was left
Speaker 1: of my front lawn in order to grow more stuff,
Speaker 1: and I just tossed all of the the chunks of
Speaker 1: like soil and and and there they of pecking at
Speaker 1: that ship. It's like one of their favorite things in
Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, we put them on. I have some
Speaker 1: planters out back and they're like fen staffs. The chickens
Speaker 1: carget in and then when we turn them over and
Speaker 1: we like replant them, we'll put them in there and
Speaker 1: they just go have and they find these huge worms.
Speaker 1: So I have no idea how they got in there,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they love that stuff. Yeah, and I let
Speaker 1: him out into the yard periodically, and it's always whenever
Speaker 1: I have to like walk them back in because you
Speaker 1: kind of just like loop around them to like guide
Speaker 1: the flock as they move, because they'll kind of instinctively
Speaker 1: go away from you if you're walking towards them. Um.
Speaker 1: One of my one of my hobbies is to like
Speaker 1: pretend to be an old feel like we should stop
Speaker 1: this immediately buy some gold. Okay, sometimes I pretend it's
Speaker 1: the shosh ancor them, and which is where chicken by
Speaker 1: the coast. It's kind of go and show us why
Speaker 1: bedsheet all of us love having health insurance? Please can
Speaker 1: I can I ask a question about space? So like
Speaker 1: how much physical room do they need? Like how much
Speaker 1: line do you have to have? So you can look
Speaker 1: at there are pretty good like calculators online. We can
Speaker 1: look at how many square yards or whatever you have.
Speaker 1: But I'm terrible at estimating size. But you know, my, my,
Speaker 1: I don't have very big garden. You know, we've we've
Speaker 1: had up to six chickens. But you do want to
Speaker 1: just look it up and it's not like the square
Speaker 1: yardage you have isn't as important as the access they
Speaker 1: have to stuff? Right? Yeah? Can they get sunlight? Can
Speaker 1: they be like out in in like something that feels
Speaker 1: like you know where a chicken would want to be.
Speaker 1: But this is this is this is like not something
Speaker 1: you can run from an apartment right? No outside? Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you live in an apartment that like has a
Speaker 1: yard or something that shared you potentially could, but no,
Speaker 1: you you do need like some amount of dirt and grass. Essentially,
Speaker 1: if you maybe have like a community garden, you can
Speaker 1: talk to people about doing it. They're like them, So
Speaker 1: mine just go all around my yard all day and like, uh,
Speaker 1: you guys have noticed also coming to my office. Um,
Speaker 1: and then they'll put themselves to bed at night, and
Speaker 1: they know where their home is so that they'll just
Speaker 1: go back to bed at night. And I want to
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about health, because there are definitely
Speaker 1: some chicken health things and just it's very expensive to
Speaker 1: take chicken sort of vet actually because you have to
Speaker 1: go to an exotic and avian vet, and they're quite
Speaker 1: rare exotic and avian vet. You could take them to
Speaker 1: a regular vet, but most of the time, so actually,
Speaker 1: if your chickens get sick, in most states, there's a
Speaker 1: state run helpline you can call and it's free and
Speaker 1: they'll put you onto a vet right away and they're
Speaker 1: very very helpful. And then they're because of the danger
Speaker 1: of different avian flus like infecting large numbers of of
Speaker 1: of animals. Yeah, does something similar to pen insurance exist
Speaker 1: for farm peep farm animals or not? Really it does,
Speaker 1: but I don't think you probably wouldn't want to be
Speaker 1: investing it out for your chicken. So I give you
Speaker 1: if you're breeding livestock, and that's the thing you can have,
Speaker 1: um And you know, one of the things you do
Speaker 1: have to keep in mind is that at some point
Speaker 1: you will have to kill them, um, you know, because
Speaker 1: they will get old enough or sick enough, and some
Speaker 1: form of euthanasia will wind up being kinder than continuing
Speaker 1: to like let them be um. Like, That's just that's
Speaker 1: true of any kind of livestock, right, at some point
Speaker 1: you have to if you don't just want to let
Speaker 1: it die naturally, which again in a lot of cases,
Speaker 1: will be prolonging it suffering. You you do have to
Speaker 1: be willing to take care of that one way or
Speaker 1: the other. Yeah, Like you can give them the best
Speaker 1: life you can give them and look often for them
Speaker 1: as you can, but often times here they will or
Speaker 1: they'll get hurt, right, like if somebody still get injured.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good reality to remind people of that.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's actually like a serious thing to have
Speaker 1: a chicken and then be responsible for its life and death.
Speaker 1: And also like the egg comes out of their butth hole, right,
Speaker 1: so it's covered. Well, it's it's not just like cartoon
Speaker 1: and chicken playing, you know what I mean. Like I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a while ago, um, but it's not that game
Speaker 1: everyone playing in COVID where you're in the island and
Speaker 1: you build stuff and yeah, I just think people usually
Speaker 1: are really flipping with stuff like like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a living animal, and like you have to take
Speaker 1: care of it, and it's your responsibility, right the storm,
Speaker 1: Like you need to think about that. You don't want
Speaker 1: to let the bumholes get too poopy. We're talking about health.
Speaker 1: So they can get worm that way, and that's really bad.
Speaker 1: So if you see that, just just pick them up
Speaker 1: and they'll be And that's this is why you want
Speaker 1: to handle them when they're young, so that you can
Speaker 1: handle them with stuff like this. So like I'll just
Speaker 1: pick them up and use a spray bottle or a
Speaker 1: little hose with a bit of warm water and and
Speaker 1: they they don't mind that at all, and at least
Speaker 1: they don't give me any ship. And but you want
Speaker 1: to look up some of the common things you're going
Speaker 1: to see gape worm. It's called gape one because they'll
Speaker 1: gape you. You'll see them gaping. They can be egg bound,
Speaker 1: and then depending on where you are, right, they can
Speaker 1: be too hot too cold. You do need to make
Speaker 1: sure they have shade. I found this thing. I found
Speaker 1: it someone was moving out. It's like a it's like
Speaker 1: a mister, but like they have at restaurants. You know
Speaker 1: when you go to a restaurant in l A and
Speaker 1: it's hot and seven annoying wetness. Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've ever been to like an amusement park and like
Speaker 1: a like a lie and they sometimes have them too
Speaker 1: sometimes in the like fruit and vegetables when there. But
Speaker 1: that's the only restaurants not inside outside misters to make
Speaker 1: it if you're in Phoenix or somewhere, yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I've got one of those. And you can find
Speaker 1: lots of ship by the way, like if you're if
Speaker 1: you live in a place that's gentrifying, like unfortunately has
Speaker 1: happened in the park San Diego I live in. Like like,
Speaker 1: for instance, all the wood for my chicken keeping paid
Speaker 1: for their ship. Like there's rich people doing stuff to houses.
Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be done, just like obtain wood
Speaker 1: from their building sites. Yeah, and obtain it's it's it's
Speaker 1: like those powles of bricks, and they didn't want you
Speaker 1: to use them. They wouldn't leave it out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and why I would live with Warren have sent the
Speaker 1: pallets of Brits if you didn't want to use and
Speaker 1: so uh yeah, obviously, like health wise, like I said,
Speaker 1: you want to make sure you have that purple spray
Speaker 1: on hand. You want to be giving them some electrolytes
Speaker 1: and their water. You want to make sure they have
Speaker 1: shade if it's hot and their coop is warm, like
Speaker 1: they don't like it much below freezing. Like yeah, I
Speaker 1: keep like a heat lamp basically all winter in there
Speaker 1: with with a red bulb so it doesn't like upset
Speaker 1: their their sleep patterns. Yeah. People, the way battery people
Speaker 1: do it, like battery chickens is they they they do
Speaker 1: more day night cycles using artificial light to to make
Speaker 1: the chickens lay more if you see what I mean,
Speaker 1: and the chickens will lay an accelerated rate. I'll keep
Speaker 1: them laying during the winter, be doing that that's not
Speaker 1: particularly good for the birds. And I let them rest
Speaker 1: this winter. Yeah, let them you know, they're animals. They
Speaker 1: you know, they don't just exist to provide your food.
Speaker 1: Like a question on this, like how cold is there
Speaker 1: like a point it gets in the winter where it's
Speaker 1: like you probably shouldn't have them. We just want to
Speaker 1: keep the coup warm. And then like so like when
Speaker 1: we were at Tenacious unicorn ranch, right and they have chickens.
Speaker 1: I don't know how cold it was, but I went
Speaker 1: to bed every night with analgene full of boiling water
Speaker 1: and when I woke up, I was hugging an ice
Speaker 1: baby like it was yeah, the heat so where I
Speaker 1: was staking and work the first time. So it was
Speaker 1: called a f and the chickens had a nice warm
Speaker 1: coupe with a heat lamp and they they were fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah you can. I mean people keep chickens in every
Speaker 1: imaginable climate, so you get as long as you're careful
Speaker 1: about making sure you know that you have a warm
Speaker 1: place for them to sleep, they will be okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you can can Can you let them out in
Speaker 1: the snow and stuff or should you? Yeah? You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: they have fun with that. There's it's snowed yesterday and
Speaker 1: like chickens are having a great time out. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: like you actually like they'll run like I remember at
Speaker 1: home this snow and yeah, and talks when you're buying
Speaker 1: the chickens, right, like consider that in your breed choice,
Speaker 1: like something going to do're going to do. Some of
Speaker 1: them are gonna not like heat and honestly, like one
Speaker 1: of the better things you can do in that situation.
Speaker 1: If you're like if I live in some weird ass
Speaker 1: part of the world where it's freezing half the time,
Speaker 1: just google like keeping backyard chickens whatever the name of
Speaker 1: your area is, and then Reddit and yeah, you will
Speaker 1: find people talking on yeah, yeah, I've gotten this is
Speaker 1: the this is the breed that I picked, and this
Speaker 1: is what I do. And people love to talk about
Speaker 1: the chicken. So yeah, to crack you out your into
Speaker 1: read it was one of my resources that exactly. It's
Speaker 1: a good place to look. Yeah, So if you have
Speaker 1: a cupe, you're gonna want to clean it, right, you
Speaker 1: can use that chicken pooper's fertilizer. It's some of the
Speaker 1: best in the world. So then if you're if you're
Speaker 1: into this sort of you know, like growing your own
Speaker 1: food and this all works well, right, you give the
Speaker 1: chicken to scraps chicken to make you eggs and poop.
Speaker 1: You put that into your plants. You have nice plants.
Speaker 1: You want to balance it out. It's a bit acidic,
Speaker 1: I think, just using the ship, so you want to
Speaker 1: be combusting with other stuff as well, right, checking your
Speaker 1: soil chemistry before you sort of go ham But yes,
Speaker 1: you can do that. You do want to make sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got the poultry helpline. We spoke about that. California's
Speaker 1: is great though, Like, don't hesitate to call the poultry
Speaker 1: helpline if you need help, Like there's there's people who
Speaker 1: are being paid to help you. And that's normally, like
Speaker 1: I know, like most pet owners, unless they're very wealthy,
Speaker 1: will have had to make horrible decisions about their pets
Speaker 1: health versus their own income when when they've like you know,
Speaker 1: and it's it's ship. So that helpline is free, and
Speaker 1: like rob it said, it's because they're always gaded infectious diseases.
Speaker 1: So take advantage of like your you know, taxpayer funded
Speaker 1: chicken vat and yeah, give him a call. Um, I
Speaker 1: think I don't know it's in every state, but I
Speaker 1: know it's in a lot of them, and yeah, go ahead,
Speaker 1: Oh um, are you going to talk about uh giving
Speaker 1: them like the shake and bake treatment for uh what
Speaker 1: do you call it? Um? If they get uh mites?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, go and go ahead and talk about it.
Speaker 1: So you know, chickens can get there's like a skin
Speaker 1: but it's it's it's it's functions similarly to like a
Speaker 1: skin infection. There's like little mites that will get on them.
Speaker 1: You'll notice bald patches. It can be I mean, it's
Speaker 1: bad for their health obviously, like you would not want
Speaker 1: to be covered in mites. And so there's um. There's
Speaker 1: this kind of mite killer called promethrin um and the
Speaker 1: way that you you can apply it in a number
Speaker 1: of ways, but you basically need to coat the entire chicken.
Speaker 1: It's essentially a white powder. So what we did when
Speaker 1: we had to do it is we just took a
Speaker 1: giant a large feedbag and we filled it with permethrin
Speaker 1: and we we put the chickens in it once at
Speaker 1: a time and just kind of like give them a
Speaker 1: little shake so they got covered. You've shaken baking all
Speaker 1: of them, and then they're just like wandering around confused
Speaker 1: and covered in this white powder. Like what the funk happened.
Speaker 1: It's very funny that it's very fun um. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just it's the best way because they get covered
Speaker 1: very quickly that way. Like there's you know, with mites
Speaker 1: and dust and stuff. You do want to make sure
Speaker 1: that where they're living is not too moist or not
Speaker 1: too dusty. They can get respiratory conditions from that, so
Speaker 1: you don't, Yeah, you want to make sure that you
Speaker 1: know they're living in a nice environment. And they also
Speaker 1: like the biggest health thing you're going to see is
Speaker 1: so they will peck at each other, right, especially when
Speaker 1: you first get your birds, they're gonna establish what it's
Speaker 1: called a pecking order, and which you know people have used,
Speaker 1: heard and use an advantage and order in which they
Speaker 1: get I didn't know the meeting. I didn't understand what
Speaker 1: that meant completely until right now this moment. It's my
Speaker 1: gift to you, very helpful today. It's a lot of Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's what they call a knowledge transfer. The Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that they'll do that, they'll pick right, they'll establishing all
Speaker 1: when you get a new bird, you don't really want
Speaker 1: to introduce one new bird at once, right, So say
Speaker 1: this is how you get fucking conned into having bantams
Speaker 1: because let's say your your garden can support four chickens,
Speaker 1: and then one of your girls dies and you're sad
Speaker 1: and you want to get more birds. So you're like, well,
Speaker 1: we can't, we can't go to five full size chickens.
Speaker 1: We'll get bantam for like two half sized chickens. And
Speaker 1: that that is good for the social dynamic because they
Speaker 1: weren't one won't get picked on, one won't be like
Speaker 1: the new girl, and then they pick on her. But
Speaker 1: then you've got bantams, and then you you just I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not no, it's not very pro bantam
Speaker 1: and they're just difficult. So how do they establish the
Speaker 1: pecking order? They pack at each other and peck at
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, and well basically one of the well
Speaker 1: it's just like any other, like physical confrontation, like they
Speaker 1: peck at each other and like, okay, well you're harder
Speaker 1: than me, Like I can't you know, I'm not here
Speaker 1: for that. The back down. Sometimes they will really start
Speaker 1: picking on one and then you do have to separate
Speaker 1: them for a while. Um, so I think that you've
Speaker 1: got to watch out for that, and you've got to
Speaker 1: be viteering and when you first get them, you're going
Speaker 1: to be excited and you're gonna want to go outside
Speaker 1: and then interact with them. So you know you'll be
Speaker 1: watching that anyway. So just make sure you have treats
Speaker 1: and stuff and separate them and don't be scared. They
Speaker 1: can't hurt you, the chickens. But um, yeah, it's normal
Speaker 1: of them to peck at each other. You've got to
Speaker 1: keep an eye out for if they do draw blood. Said,
Speaker 1: they are fucking dinosaurs and they will just hone in
Speaker 1: on that, So that's when you have to separate them
Speaker 1: or come in with your purple spray. Um. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you just have to make sure that you're aware of that.
Speaker 1: And they pecked out your leg when it was bleeding,
Speaker 1: does that hurt a little bit? Like you wouldn't do
Speaker 1: it recreationally? Yeah? People would you know? You yuck? You're young? Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you are, if you are turned on exactly like
Speaker 1: it's not. They're not like like full body attack that
Speaker 1: I walk in every day to feed my chickens and
Speaker 1: I don't get peck there anything like they're they're fine. Um,
Speaker 1: they're not like attack animals and chickens by the way
Speaker 1: or like every other creature, some of them are assholes, right,
Speaker 1: like any kind of animal that you have and any
Speaker 1: like just like people, some of them are dick. I remember,
Speaker 1: like on that subject. I was a few years ago.
Speaker 1: I was writing about rattlesnake behavior for his story and
Speaker 1: there's this run fucking rattlesnake which literally every time I
Speaker 1: ride past it, it's just like bam, like fucking Like.
Speaker 1: I've talked to the snake behavior expert and he's like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that one's an asshole. Some of them are just don't
Speaker 1: know what to tell you. Just come across a bell
Speaker 1: end like it it is what it is. Um, So yeah,
Speaker 1: if you sometimes he's gonna have a chicken, which is mean,
Speaker 1: and it just gotta hope that doesn't. You know, you've
Speaker 1: got to make your choice end, right, if it's really
Speaker 1: causing chaos in the flock, like, what are you gonna
Speaker 1: do with it? Yeah, that may be a chicken that
Speaker 1: you eat. Um. You know, one of the things you
Speaker 1: learned keeping chickens is how wildly we have fucked up
Speaker 1: the chickens that we used for meat, because like a
Speaker 1: normal chicken does not produce breast meat that is that size,
Speaker 1: Like that is the size of like a normal grocery
Speaker 1: store chicken breast. Those are from monsters that we made. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like breast meat was popular, so they made that
Speaker 1: that like they inserted like a horborne or whatever to
Speaker 1: make that part of the chicken grow. And I mean
Speaker 1: I've seen videos of like the chicken toppling over because
Speaker 1: that's so heavy, not supposed to it's madness. It's so sad,
Speaker 1: and then jones are not fully develop like it's very cruel,
Speaker 1: Like I am, Yeah, it's sucked up. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: eat meat, Like I'm not really like down with the
Speaker 1: way the American commercially culture raised animals a toy. I
Speaker 1: grew up on a farm. I could have raised animals
Speaker 1: my home with you. I agree touching. Yeah, cheap cheap
Speaker 1: meatings too. I understand other people. Do you got to
Speaker 1: feature families whatever? And obviously one way or the other.
Speaker 1: If you're raising chickens, like and you at some point
Speaker 1: you know the chicken is going to die if at
Speaker 1: all possible, I think you do kind of have a
Speaker 1: responsibility to find some use for that meat. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just that they're sick, in which case yeah, obviously if
Speaker 1: they get like yeah, I had to I had to
Speaker 1: kill two last year because they got like some sort
Speaker 1: of avian flu and the state people will come and
Speaker 1: take them away and do an autopsy if if they
Speaker 1: do get sick like that, and so that that's nice
Speaker 1: to know because then you have, you know, do I
Speaker 1: have to worry about the rest of my flock? You
Speaker 1: know what? What is this? Is there something in the soil?
Speaker 1: It's something I'm feeding them? You know, you can if
Speaker 1: you have concerns like that, it's nice to have them
Speaker 1: do that. That's a really really good note. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you if you are responsible for them, like and you
Speaker 1: have to give them the best life they can and
Speaker 1: the kind of death, and you know, you're responsible to
Speaker 1: the suffering as little as possible in their little lives.
Speaker 1: We used to buy chickens when I was a kid
Speaker 1: from a guy who bread chickens for a battery farm,
Speaker 1: and we'd go and get them with chicks and just
Speaker 1: be like you you you you you are going to
Speaker 1: run around our farm. Will don't have a wonderful life,
Speaker 1: And I'm so sorry the rest of you have this
Speaker 1: fucking horrible existence. But it's nice to save some of them.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be hard to get chickens right now.
Speaker 1: So my last thing was really like when you're buying chickens,
Speaker 1: right where you're gonna get your chickens from, and so
Speaker 1: hopefully you know where you live you have like a farm,
Speaker 1: shall steal them, liberate them from a battery farm, shoot
Speaker 1: your way in it. It doesn't it's worth it, and
Speaker 1: they have all probably Well I actually think people have
Speaker 1: literally gotten to much of terrorism charges for that. But
Speaker 1: well I think it's pigs, wasn't it that they go? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: chickens are not charismatic enough for people to go to
Speaker 1: prison over. Yeah, I know, it's unfair, it's unfair. It's racism. Really. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If there's one thing we could tell you as a
Speaker 1: group of individuals legally responsible for what we say, i'm
Speaker 1: yourself and liberate poultry. Yeah, fight your way in like
Speaker 1: like the only not the only, but the most concrete
Speaker 1: evidence of like dinosaurs have like now devolved into these chickens,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like that is so funny
Speaker 1: to me that out of all the animals, that is
Speaker 1: the closest thing we have to a dinosaur, that is
Speaker 1: a dinosaurs and again their favorite food as their own kind.
Speaker 1: And also like like they will like every now and
Speaker 1: then I will give them some of their eggs just
Speaker 1: because it makes them so happy to eat. Well, I
Speaker 1: was gonna ask, like what you said that it tasted
Speaker 1: different when you gave them meat, Like what is the
Speaker 1: difference that you caught in the taste when they do
Speaker 1: eat their own eggs versus like just the feed. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I mean their their own eggs, don't. I've never fed
Speaker 1: them enough for it to be a meaningful component of
Speaker 1: their diet. They will eat scrambled eggs and cheese. They
Speaker 1: like to you know, when they're sick. Can you can
Speaker 1: you like taste a difference if you give them herbs,
Speaker 1: so like one thing that people do is give them
Speaker 1: little bundles of herbs and you can taste that in
Speaker 1: the egg. Yeah, it just kind of richer, you know.
Speaker 1: When you it's like you'll notice different, like if you
Speaker 1: if they are calcium deficient, the eggs are really fragile.
Speaker 1: And if they have a shipload of calcium in their diet,
Speaker 1: like my eggs are, like you have to like you
Speaker 1: have to want to crack those fuckers. If you feed
Speaker 1: the flax seeds. Then the eggs have a higher Amiga
Speaker 1: three content. Like if you have it's like it makes sense,
Speaker 1: it's super interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can. You can
Speaker 1: give them flag seats and like that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: You can mess with their diet bit and they they
Speaker 1: like that stuff. So yeah, when you're buying them, what
Speaker 1: you want, I think is the beginner is like a
Speaker 1: point of labored and you can say point of flay
Speaker 1: and that's what they'll give you. Know that they're going
Speaker 1: to try and give you pullets or they're going to
Speaker 1: try and say it's nice to raise chicks, but it is.
Speaker 1: It's really nice to raise chicks, but some of them
Speaker 1: will die and that will be upsetting for you, and um,
Speaker 1: it's hard because again work. That's a general note any
Speaker 1: life time. If you if you decide that you want
Speaker 1: to be a person who has live stock, you have
Speaker 1: to be okay with them dying and it being an
Speaker 1: experience that is more direct to you than like obviously
Speaker 1: it's it's not as emotional as like when a catterat
Speaker 1: dog dies, but it will not involve a vet with
Speaker 1: the kind of frequency that like a dying pet does.
Speaker 1: Like you will have to deal with you know, animals die,
Speaker 1: because animals just die. Sometimes they wind up with the
Speaker 1: same kind of ailments people have. For like an animal's
Speaker 1: hard will give out or something. And you didn't do
Speaker 1: anything wrong. It's just an animal was born with a
Speaker 1: heart defect. Right, It's just like a thing that occurs
Speaker 1: if you have enough animals. Yeah, we used to say,
Speaker 1: if you have life stock, you have dead stock one day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's just something you have to face up to.
Speaker 1: But like someone else is already doing that ship and
Speaker 1: they're probably doing it with less compassion than you. You're
Speaker 1: buying you know, warm out eggs. So you let I
Speaker 1: say you you can't, You're not God, but like you
Speaker 1: owe these animals like a decent life. And yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a little suffering as you can. So yeah, by the
Speaker 1: point of leg chickens, make sure that their sex right
Speaker 1: you you don't want to restie. You might not legally
Speaker 1: be able to have a rooster. And then something like
Speaker 1: a dog container. It's fine. I brought them home in
Speaker 1: a shoe box before, Like I'll just put them next
Speaker 1: to me in my truck. And they're pretty chill that
Speaker 1: you know, give them, give them a little bit of water,
Speaker 1: in there, but generally they don't, you know, want to drink.
Speaker 1: You can kind of swaddle them. I've seen people swaddle them, um,
Speaker 1: you know if they're really panicking or whatever, and swaddling
Speaker 1: it's like when you wrap them like you would with
Speaker 1: a baby, and people do that, I know, when they
Speaker 1: have to move them in like a hurricane to try
Speaker 1: and calm them down. But I've always just put them
Speaker 1: in a dog container. Are we going to talk about
Speaker 1: storing eggs? Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because people don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a weird American thing. Yeah, so this doesn't happen
Speaker 1: in the rest of the world. But you guys get
Speaker 1: your eggs refrigerated, and that's because they're washed before they
Speaker 1: come to Yeah, you don't need to do this normally. No,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't wash your eggs, nor should you refrigerate them.
Speaker 1: Just I have a little helter skelter thing, and it
Speaker 1: just looks like a spiral, right, and you put the
Speaker 1: egg on the top and it just rolls its little
Speaker 1: way down and it gets to the bottom and that
Speaker 1: way I always take them from the bottom, and that
Speaker 1: way I'm always sort of getting the oldest eggs first,
Speaker 1: so I don't end up with like one at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the basket, right, so you don't them no,
Speaker 1: just just bring it not until you're ready to eat them. Obviously,
Speaker 1: wash them before you cook them, because some of them
Speaker 1: will have poop and stuff on them right right before that.
Speaker 1: Just keep them normal and then lost for months like that,
Speaker 1: Like there are there you can there are a couple
Speaker 1: of other ways to Obviously you could pickle them, be
Speaker 1: very careful with that. If you are canning them, um,
Speaker 1: I would recommend just pickling them and putting them in
Speaker 1: the fridge because eggs in like hard boiled eggs in particular,
Speaker 1: are troublesome to can because there's always if you think
Speaker 1: about hard boiled eggs, there's always like a little bitty
Speaker 1: cracks and like the white of the egg and that
Speaker 1: is where botulism can live. So be extremely careful if
Speaker 1: you are pickling eggs. Um, just I would recommend don't
Speaker 1: like you know, can them specifically, just pickle them and
Speaker 1: put them in the fridge and you know, the less
Speaker 1: a pretty good amount of time. Yeah, pickled eggs are delicious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is the is the thing about not refrigerating the eggs,
Speaker 1: do you actually still have to refrigerate, like if you
Speaker 1: use the store if yes, you can in this country. Yes,
Speaker 1: you can roll them in vegetable oil and I think ash,
Speaker 1: which replicates the way that they have a membrane on
Speaker 1: that and but very fair like all intended if you're
Speaker 1: buying them, yeah, yeah, when they come out like a
Speaker 1: little pole basically yeah, like it's kind of fills to
Speaker 1: pause on the outside of the egg, I think because
Speaker 1: I understand it. So if you really wanted to store them,
Speaker 1: you didn't have access to refrigerator, you could do the
Speaker 1: actual thing. You should look it up. The other thing
Speaker 1: you can do that is because again, if you have
Speaker 1: any quantity of chickens, there's a good chance that they
Speaker 1: will produce, like I have a problem with this, significantly
Speaker 1: more eggs than you can consume. An interesting way to
Speaker 1: are you gonna talk about water glassing? Oh you talk
Speaker 1: about it there? Yeah, that you can look like look
Speaker 1: it up. I'm not going to give you a guide
Speaker 1: over this because preserving stuff is something that you should
Speaker 1: take care on. But you can google water glassing. It's
Speaker 1: basically a way you can keep eggs for like up
Speaker 1: to a year. That way, um in like crack able
Speaker 1: friable condition. But I think we are getting the note
Speaker 1: that James and I should stop talking about chickens for now.
Speaker 1: Continue in another episode, James, and we'll talk about chickens
Speaker 1: privately after this. And you are pretty James said it.
Speaker 1: People love to talk about their chickens. They do me
Speaker 1: talk about chickens. Yeah. Yeah, Maybe let's start a side
Speaker 1: podcast for Patreon reasons, Chicken Cast, Chicken Cast Anyway, poultry pod.
Speaker 1: Until next time, take a lesson from the chickens and
Speaker 1: eat your own young Okay, oh my god. It could
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