WEBVTT - KALEN FRFR - Nacho Average FrFr 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:03.400 Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.000 I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:09.879 very special guests. He's out here making the West great again. 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:12.760 Kaitlin for real, for reals in the building. 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:16.120 What's going on? How are you good? How you doing good? 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.639 I'm starving while you were on your way here. I 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.639 ate orioles. I ate chips. 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:24.120 The orioles is the dessert. 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:26.079 I made it breakfast. 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:52.959 Okay, what are you gonna have me eating today? 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.360 So gonna start off, Gonna get some ground turkey going, 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.960 and get some noodles going, whip all out of it 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.040 together for you and put that in the bag. Smuch 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:05.400 from hot Cheetos up and get that going. Some Doritos up. 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.160 Mix all that together, and he got you a little 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:08.679 lunch snack. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.600 Did you say put it in a bag? Yeah, we 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:12.480 didn't have a bag. 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:14.080 We're gonna put it. We don't got a bag. 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:19.800 Use a glo that's the touch the meat whatever. I'm 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:22.200 gonna stay. You know what you got to those I. 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:23.120 Could just use one hand. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.959 Okay, okay, Eating while I broke Eating while broke up 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.160 in the building. What are you gonna name this dish? 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.280 Two for Real Snacks Spectacular, Two for. 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:35.600 Real Snacks Spectacular. Okay, I like, I really like that name. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:36.240 It's a good one. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:38.759 It's a good it's a good name. I love that 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.840 you made sure to add the kool aiate you I love. 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:43.800 I love grape kool Aid. That's the best kool Aid. 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:46.920 I wanted to get the powder and see how much 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:48.640 sugar you put in it. But then I was just 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:49.600 like I was under. 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.560 The impression that that's what That's what I was. 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:57.120 You're gonna yeah, I was liquid diabetes. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:01.840 Liquid diabetes. Okay, So take me back to this, uh 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:07.640 Nacho ramen for real for real Spectacular Special. What did 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:08.120 you call it? 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:11.200 Two for Real Snack Spectacular. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:14.240 Two for Real Snacks Spectacular? What was going on? This 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.799 sounds like something you was doing in elementary But take 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:17.160 me back. 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.079 Yeah, so my mama used to be at work all day, 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.120 so I used to get home. I used to be hungry. 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.280 She used to be like, go in there and cook something, 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.240 and like I ain't really be wanting to wait on 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.239 like to unthrow the meat or like you know what 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.640 I'm saying, I'm not gonna make no mashed potatoes and 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.360 all that, Like I'm not doing that, so you feel me. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.120 We always have a seasoning the water. 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.600 Yeah, for the ramen. Yeah? 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:40.240 Are you? But you already put the. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:42.839 Man. 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:44.839 This is interesting, just so you guys, don't. I don't 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:46.600 even think he put the noodles. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.240 Did you put the noodles in? 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:51.880 He's over there, he used I gotta recap it for 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.840 the listeners. He took the ramen season garlic, put it 0:02:55.880 --> 0:03:01.320 in the water. He put garlic salt, Tony's dash and Lawry's. Now, 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.919 if you're all familiar with ramen, which I hope you are, 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.919 I want to I literally want to take a spoon. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:11.040 We don't even have utensils out here. Damn, what do 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.120 I want to try? How salty this water is going 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:17.160 to be. It's going I've never seen someone season on 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:18.320 top of ramen season. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:23.800 It's going to observe you just use the ramen. That 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:24.520 ain't enough? 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:29.400 Clearly, Okay, so you was doing this? Clear what age 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:30.520 were you doing this? 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.160 I probably started making this when I was like ten. 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.000 Okay, okay, so ten? Is it a single mom home? 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:36.960 Do you have siblings? 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:37.800 Yeah? 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.200 But I was I'm the youngest, so I was always 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.320 really by myself a lot I'm a lot younger than 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:43.320 my sisters and stuff. 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.920 Okay, yeah, I just but they were in the home 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:47.280 with you. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.440 Yeah no, no, no, no, we all got different mamas. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.440 Okay, okay, So you were like the only child. 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.280 Of my mom, my mom only child. 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:57.960 Okay, and dad wasn't. 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.480 I got step pops. That's like my real Okay. I 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:03.960 hate was wrong, but nah, that's it. That's about it. 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.520 Okay, all right, Okay, So what was your mom doing 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:08.040 for work? 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:10.440 My mom did a lot of stuff. Man, My mom 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.800 had a couple of businesses. She was a social worker. 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.840 She just did it all for real, you know. She 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:20.320 she had a party planning business. 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.400 Moms really got to work. 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.000 Your mom was a social worker. I noticed when I 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.320 was reading as much as I could about you, you 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.719 have like an affinity for like special. 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.440 Needs y'all want. That's what I studied in college. 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.080 Does that have something to do with the fact that 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:36.400 your mom was in social worker? 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:36.720 Yeah? 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:40.200 Yeah, like definitely, Like I'm probably influenced by Like I 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:43.479 don't think nobody's influenced boy, like just one thing specifically, 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.760 you know, I feel like the universe talked to you, 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:47.440 Like it be like a chain of events. 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:49.600 So Yeah, with my mom. 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.039 My mom being a social worker had a lot to 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:53.680 do with it because I've seen so much. She was 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.800 always gone, she was always dealing with other people, children 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.239 and stuff like that. So sometimes I used to be hating, 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:00.680 but you know, you know what I'm saying, when I 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.200 got older enough to really understand that, like she was 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.080 doing good work. You know what I'm saying, She's saving 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.200 people lives, like you start really noticing. 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:09.880 Other people's situations as you get older. 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.600 I just really commend her for her job and all 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.240 the stress and stuff that she had to go through, 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.279 and on top of that, still deal with me, you 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.080 know what I'm saying, and a handful that I was 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.080 and then deal with life like you know what I mean. 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.320 So I commend her a lot. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:23.720 Yeah. 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.719 You do a give back event in LA. Can you 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:27.680 tell us more about it? 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:29.159 Uh? Yeah, Two for Real Days. 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.680 So we throw two for Real Day every year and 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:35.320 it's like a community give back event, charity event. So 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:40.000 we have performances and like games and little rides and 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:41.880 stuff for all the kids to come out and have fun. 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.520 We give back school supplies, we make sure they're ready 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.720 for school, clothes and stuff like that. We got a 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:50.440 lot of sponsors like Ethica, Puma's been one of the sponsors. 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:55.600 True Religion was a sponsor last year. A lot of 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:58.760 different food vendors and stuff come through and help us. 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:03.840 Costco always donate a lot, so we just take that, 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.040 take everything that we get from that and try to 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:07.520 give it out to the community. We throw it at 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.120 Compton College, so we'll probably start doing it every year 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:11.839 at Company College. It started off as just a block 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:13.920 party though in the neighborhood. We used to just throw 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:15.680 a block party in the neighborhood. And when you say we, 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:17.760 who was we to me and my homies and my 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:19.760 family and my friends. Started off with me and my friends, 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.240 and then as I became a bigger artist, we just 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.520 like it became more and more and more, like just 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:27.800 bigger every year, so we have to keep bringing people. 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.320 What's interesting about you is you have this amazing artistry 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:37.360 music career. Thanks and I don't know if it gets 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.960 highlighted enough, but when you read your resume or your backstory, 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.160 you have almost an equal amount of this whole other 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.520 side of you that's like giving back or your degree, 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:50.559 like you graduated with what did you say your degree 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.760 was in? Like social science, social science, Like where's all 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.160 this this other inspiration coming from? 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:57.640 Probably my grandmother. 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:01.600 My grandmother was really like a heavy influence on my life, 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.159 Like that was my dog, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.560 So just before she passed away. 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.520 You're gonna have to stop tapping that. There's gonna be 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.640 listeners there. They're gonna be like, stop tapping. Use another, uh, 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:17.800 use another tool. Maybe maybe that flat one. I was 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:19.840 gonna say the other food flat one, but maybe that one. 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:24.720 I'm getting all up in his stuff. Sorry, but like that, 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:26.120 there's like something on there. 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.240 I wasn't gonna put it, not. 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:29.720 That on there? Yeah? What's that on that? 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:33.040 All? Right? 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.480 If you ain't never had a struggle meal with no dirt, like, 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:38.680 stop playing, stop stop acting like you ain't never had 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.080 a struggle meal with no dirt in here. 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:42.800 You ain't never sneeze on food. You ain't never dropped 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:46.520 the ice cube picked back up through it. I have, 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.240 I've done that, but I still do. 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.119 But I don't know if I've ever sneezed in food. 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:55.080 Though I didn't drop the homie full taco shells on 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:56.360 the ground, still made them. 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:01.520 For him, I don't. I don't know if I'll ever 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.720 let you cook for me off camera. Off cameras on 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.040 camera can see if you mess it up. 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.720 You just gotta pay attention. You never know, I might sprinkling. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.320 What's crazy is you put all that seasoning in the water, 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.400 but I have not seen any seasoning on the meat 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:17.600 that has attention. 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.400 Oh you put seasoning on it. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.400 Oh, I was so busy focused on listening. Okay, Okay, 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:26.720 let's go back to the story. Okay, So the inspiration 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:31.080 for all this other complete polar opposite of who who 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.760 it seems like you represent in your music. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:38.079 I don't really think it's like a opposite, like I'm 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:38.959 still the same person. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.280 It's just like that's kind of that's pretty. 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.839 Much like the basis of why I started making music 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:46.439 is that you can be whoever you want to be. 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:47.080 Is still be a. 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:48.960 Rapper, Like you don't gotta be a thug, you don't 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.679 gotta be like, you don't gotta be nothing like stereotypical. 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.880 You could be whoever you want to be and still 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:56.240 make it. 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.400 You know what I'm saying, Chief success, people still think 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.160 you cool, Like cool is like standard of yourself, you 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.040 know what I mean? That's what the for real for 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.000 real means it's like it's like doubling down on being yourself, 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:06.480 being real. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:08.800 Yeah, that's where that comes from. 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.839 Okay, So take me back. You're a kid growing up 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:17.760 at home, what's your next injection towards artistry? Like growing up, like, 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.439 where do you start figuring out what you want to do? 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.440 I played sports, so I was really playing sports and 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.400 like just music and sports kind of I go hand 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.880 in hand. So when I was a kid, I know 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.880 I wanted to make music too, but I didn't know 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:31.480 I want to be a rapper. I always thought I 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.480 wanted to be like a producer or something. So I 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.360 started off kind of just like making beasts, but I 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.160 was like horrible. So I was like, let me just 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.240 try something else. And I started rapping a little bit, 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:43.120 and then me and my homies around my neighborhood we 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.280 all started rapping too, like everybody on my street. 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.839 So it was just making music together. Were just putting 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:48.280 it together. 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:52.000 And as I got older, when I got done playing football, 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:53.280 I was like, I want to do something. 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:54.960 I'm like, I'm gonna take like a year and focus 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.400 on rap. And after I focused on rap, it just 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:58.320 started to take off. 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:00.960 And how did your mom feel about this whole idea 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:01.920 of you getting into rap. 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.560 She was like, I don't really care because I graduated 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:05.120 from college. 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.320 So she was like, man, whatever you're gonna do, just 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:11.240 do it, just do it out one hundred percent. So 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:14.679 she she supported it. I remember early on, like when 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.920 I was young, she was scared for me. But I 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:19.040 could tell she was scared for me rather than you 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:20.920 know what I'm saying, didn't want me to chase my 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.959 dreams because it just was like, you know what, parents, 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:29.800 it's a different generation, generational gap, so the what you 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.000 can be was more limited back then, Like you know 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.240 what I'm saying, Like she probably got so many friends 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.160 and people that wanted to be rappers and stuff like that, 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:37.360 and went down the rabbit hole. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:38.280 Yeah you know what I mean. 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:39.960 You like, you don't think your little son gonna make 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:41.719 it or your baby gonna make it. When they when 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:43.080 they're like, oh I want to be a rapper, I 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:44.800 want to do this, you just think like damn, Like 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.080 a lot of people get discouraged, like day you don't 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.240 want to work hard and stuff like that. Like I 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.000 had other family members telling me like I don't need 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.000 to focus on rap, like I need to get a 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:54.800 job and stuff like that, and it's. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.760 Like, how did that make you feel? When they would 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:57.280 say that. 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.400 I've never really been a person to have hurt feelings. 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.720 I'm like, you really get one chance with me? Like 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:05.440 if you if you ain't saying what I'm liking in 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.000 the first like five minutes, I'm You're toned out for life. 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:09.000 I'll never listen to you again. 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.720 You hear that, y'all. That means when you run up 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:16.199 on Caitlin, you make sure you get your words correct. Okay, 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:20.000 you got that? What two elevator pitch before yours? 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:22.920 I'm an Aries, man, I hate you fast. 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:26.160 I love Aries people, Aquarius and Arias. I think just 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:27.199 get along really great. 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:27.920 They're pretty cool. 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:29.200 They pretty cool. When's your birthday? 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.000 Okay? Okay, I hang out with a lot of Aries. 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:32.880 Aries. 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.319 All right, so that's crazy. I hang out with a 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:37.240 lot of Areas and Queries. 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.560 I'm telling you, Aquaries. I promise you. I have a 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.720 lot of Aries people that I deal with. And when 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:47.080 I say there's something magical about aquaries and aries hanging out, 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.360 I don't know about dating, but I will say, like 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.959 hanging out, there's something cool about it. I don't know why. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.040 I don't know a lot about signs, but I do 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:59.520 know like aquaries and aris. Okay, all right, so take 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:01.920 me back to when you start to seeing glimmers of 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.200 like your music is working in the right direction. 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:21.880 Direction a little after college, maybe like twenty like eighteen, 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.520 like sounds start going up crazy on SoundCloud. 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:26.560 My my project. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.560 I put a project out in like that July, and 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:33.960 I think by like maybe like September October, I was 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.800 like a full fledged artist, Like I really didn't have 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:38.640 no choice. I was doing shows every weekend. I was 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:42.079 getting booked. I was living in Atlanta, and like people 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.320 was playing my music back out here, and I was 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:45.360 like blowing up out here. 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:46.800 I had no clue. I got back home. 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.559 My homies just like yeah, like hey this dude want 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:51.000 a bookie for a show like this? 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:52.720 Do want a bookie for a show. I'm like, hell no, 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:54.199 I need a manager or something. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:55.400 Yeah, what we doing? 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:57.679 So my homie Marlin, Me and my homie Marlin, we 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.320 was just thugging it out like as much. 0:12:59.160 --> 0:12:59.640 As we could do. 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:01.960 Pop were like just in your DM's booking you. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:02.880 Yeah, DM and. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:04.839 Me walking up on me in person like it was 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.000 even crazy, And I went on this like little I 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.280 went on tour with OJIEZ. When I came back from that, 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:13.160 my whole life was just like changing like fast, and 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:14.840 like before you knew it, I was on my own tour. 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.240 And then what was your mom saying when all this 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:18.040 is going on. 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:20.280 I'm kind of like quiet. 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:20.960 Yeah. 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:24.760 So like with my mom, we talk about everything, but 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.959 I'm the type of person like I don't really talk 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.440 about what I got going on until I'm finished because 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.240 I don't want to jinx myself, you know what I mean. 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.839 So nah, just telling my mom, she like, I'm like yeah, man, 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.920 Like I think one day I came to the house 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:41.200 probably in like twenty like eighteen or twenty seventeen, and 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.240 I was like, hey, I'm finna move out. She was 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:46.240 like what. I was like, yeah, like I'm out. I'll 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.760 see you later. Like I got apartment, she was like where. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:53.080 I'm like like by lax. She was like in Marina 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.360 del Ray. I'm like yeah, low key like yeah. She 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.679 was like yeah, And I gave her some h your 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.080 mom with the news yeah, because it's like I was 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.040 just like I came because I was living in Atlanta. 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.079 I had already left like when I got out of college. 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:07.079 I was like, I'm about to go to dow. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.080 Atlanta went you went to school, but where did you 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:09.520 go to college? 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:10.400 At San Diego State? 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.559 Okay? And then you just moved to Atlanta like. 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:14.280 The day after I came out of college. 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:16.600 Did and you surprised her with that move too. 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:16.920 Yeah. 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:18.680 When I came home, I was like, she was like, well, 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.680 so what you gonna do. I'm like, I ain't gonna lie. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:22.720 I'm like, if you could just watch my dog for me, 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:24.840 I'll be back, like in like six months, I'm gonna 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:25.200 come back. 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:26.480 She was like what. 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.320 I was like, yeah, just give me like six months 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:29.760 I'll be back or something like that, Like I'm gonna 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:30.640 just go figure it out. 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:32.360 I'm gonna go try it out here for And why 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.960 did you choose Atlanta? By the way, I think those 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.840 noodles are going to be like, baby, you don't want 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:39.800 to you you don't want to turn it off? 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:40.640 You see that. 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.560 It's okay, yeah, okay. This is what happens when you 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.720 watch a man cook is like nerve wrecking, Like please 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:48.840 don't burn down the house. 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.920 It's okay, It's okay, we do. 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.760 This, okay, see he said, He said, I took my 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.120 advice for me, or was I was? I leading you 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:58.000 in the right direction. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.560 You gotta learn when to listen, you know what I'm saying. 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.080 As a man, you gotta learn how to listen. 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.200 You know what I'm saying. 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.480 I was like, we eat baby for when you done 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.880 all right? All right? So you moved to Atlanta. What's 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.080 the inspiration to move from LA to Atlanta? 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.600 That's just where music was like the mecca at that time, 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.360 Like everything was coming up out of Atlanta. 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.440 I figured, like, you know what I'm saying, let me 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:19.200 see what I can go. 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.200 Down there and learn. I can go down there network 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:23.560 maybe you know something to come up of it. So 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.800 I was just chilling down there my home meet. I 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.200 was my roommate in college in San Diego. He had 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.320 moved back. He was from there, so I just wanted 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.120 to go stay with Bro. Was staying out there just 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.560 making music. Every day, working on music. I was getting around. 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.800 I ended up making someone probably like my best music. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.480 Think out there is why I like found like my confidence. 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.280 Like in Atlanta, you could be whatever you want if 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.160 you like a garbage man, like a Nick Gonna tell 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.560 you I'm the best garbage man ever. Like if you 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:49.600 like a cameraman, dude, gonna be the best camera man, 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:50.360 even if they not. 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:51.400 Like you know what I'm saying, But. 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.280 Like the sense of pride that you have about yourself 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.560 that I found out there, Like just seeing so many. 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.800 Like people that looked like me that were successful. 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:00.880 I had never really seen a lot of successful people 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.160 like me in all different lanes and attributes. So I 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.360 think it kind of just motivated me a lot, you 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:06.440 know what I'm saying, being out. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:06.840 There in that way. 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:08.840 So then what made you decide to come back home? 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.520 I had to because of the six month you told 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:11.920 your my home. 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.320 Nah, I just started blowing up. I started getting bigger, 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:15.400 like my music and stuff. 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.520 Making the music out there, we hearing it. 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.400 You're just uploading, putting it on Yeah, I'm just putting 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:22.760 it on SoundCloud, letting it go, just sending it to people. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.800 I send my music to like five hundred people a day. Yeah. 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:27.280 I used to send my music out every day all 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:28.320 day to a bunch of people. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.960 And just like in the in the in like doing that, 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.000 I just happened to start blowing up, blowing up. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.120 So you come back out here, You're getting booked for 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.600 shows where do you end up being signed because now 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:41.360 you're moving without management. 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:41.960 Right, Yeah, No, I had. 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.800 I got with my brother Ray, So now I'm signing 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.400 to like first Class Entertainment, Okay. And after that that's 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.440 when we A couple of years later, after that, we 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.400 just was going up putting it together. 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:54.119 I was moving around doing. 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:55.760 I probably didn't have to drop a song for like, 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:57.320 I didn't have to drop no new music for like 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:58.080 three four years. 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.160 So it was just going up off of that it 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:00.960 for like three years. 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.280 And that's good because you got to really work the record. Yeah. 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:04.600 I got to work all my projects, so like I 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:06.040 had dropped too for real, and then it just was 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.119 going crazy. So once that happened, we got out of that, 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.199 we went over to UH. We had some meetings, We 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:13.800 had a lot of meetings. We had meetings with everybody, 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:15.600 whole bunch of labels, and it just. 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.119 Felt like the best fit was to be like a 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:17.680 rock nation. 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.080 Can you know what I'm saying, the best fit? Yeah, yeah, 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.160 it sounds like good friend. Tell us how it happened. 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:26.959 I was performing at UH the BT Experience. 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:27.800 You familiar with that. 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.240 So there was a show at the BT Experience that 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.320 UH DJ head had put on and at the p 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.560 at the time, Sherry was the president of Sherry Bryant 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:37.760 was the president in the Rock Nation. 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:39.440 And I had been knowing one of her A and 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.320 R's Earl, like that's my homie. I had been knowing 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:42.200 him for a long time. 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.760 So I used to sit and wrote my music like consistently, consistently, 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.040 and just one day, uh, Scherry, see me perform. And 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:50.399 then before you knew it, I was just on the 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:52.920 plane going to New York. Like he was like, hey man, 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:53.680 let me. 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:55.720 Uh let me he let me take you to the 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:56.919 to lunch. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.560 And I'm like, all right, so I'll pull up on 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.080 him well eating lunch, and I'm like, you feel me 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:03.720 like I pay for like I pay for it like you. 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:05.800 He was like, no, I gotta pay for it. It's 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:07.840 on the label, Like this was like a business meeting. 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:11.680 I'm like what you mean, Like he like, well, ship, 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:13.320 they want to fly you out there and meet with 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:15.760 like your people so we can like sign you. 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:16.760 We want to sign you. 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:23.359 And I'm like, man, shut up, earl, you lying like. 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:23.120 Like you playing like today ain't no time to play. 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.919 Stop playing. But I just gave him. I gave him 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:27.720 rate number, and I'll just let them figure it out 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:27.960 in there. 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.200 From there, I think like maybe like two weeks later, 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:31.959 we have Fluid in New York and we was at 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:32.439 the office. 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.080 So was that your first time in New York? 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:36.560 Yep, that was my very first time. That was my 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:38.520 second time going to New York. Actually my second time 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:39.120 going to New York. 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:40.760 I was gonna say, what do you think about pizza? 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:43.840 Y'all? Got a good pizza? Y'all got a good pizza y'all? 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:45.000 Impan out of Mama. 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.040 And panata is Ain't nobody going to New York to eat. 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.119 I can't leave it. I'm gonna bring the imp and 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:50.800 out of Mama back. 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:51.160 Really. 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:52.480 Yeah, take it on the plane with me. 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:53.400 I had that. 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.480 You never had I out of Mama. You from New York. Yeah, 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.960 word to my mother. You gotta figure that out. 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:03.640 Okay, I'm gonna figure it out. 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:03.919 I go. 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:05.800 I go there at least two to three times a year. 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.120 Me too, I get about that much. 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:09.760 Yeah. I just came back from there. 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:10.240 Yeah. 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.320 Yeah. So did you ever get to meet Hoover or 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:14.040 anything like that? 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:14.760 Yeah? I met him. 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:16.240 I met Hove in La before I met him in 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.240 New York. I met him in LA at the LA office. 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.919 So if you don't know anything about me, which you 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.160 kind of already know, is I'm a huge jay Z fan. 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:26.840 So you got a legendary picture I got. 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:29.600 I had my mom paint that custody like that. 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:30.240 That's amazing. 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.359 I gave her just so you know, the picture doesn't 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.280 even do it justice. I gave my mom like a 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:38.959 really tiny picture, very tiny, very blurry picture. And I 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:40.560 was like twenty four, and I was like, Mom, I 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.520 will pay you in payments if you make this massive 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:46.800 painting for me. She did it for me. 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:48.360 That's dope. You got a dope. 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:49.720 I don't want to tell you how much she charged me, 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.959 because she charged you. She very little. Now if you 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.200 ask her, she'll be like, go sell my painting the 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:58.640 jay Z. I'll make you another one, and like, no, 0:19:59.080 --> 0:19:59.920 the only one in the world. 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:00.679 You should get it. 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.840 Only I would never he would love that though. 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:07.600 He's so he's so deep into like fine arts, like yeah, 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.520 but everywhere it is like a museum. 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.679 He would own the only one. And then I'd have 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.040 to beg my mom to paint another one. Yes, and 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:18.240 my mom my Mom's trying to charge a lot more 0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:18.800 for them. Paintings. 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:22.320 Now, your mom like you gotta just for next, Like my. 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:24.760 Mom be like ten thousand. 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.280 I'll tell you like over life, we got a whole life. 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:30.760 She's gonna fall for that. She ain't gonna fall for that. 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.080 My mom's gonna stop following for it. She watched this, 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:37.800 it's gonna be over all right. 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:40.480 So you gotta share one jay Z store just because 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:41.879 I'm a fan freak. 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:42.720 Okay. 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:44.919 So remember when that whole thing was going around, Like 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:46.800 when they was like, hey, do would you. 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:47.760 Rather take the dinner? 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:48.560 Yeah? 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:51.160 Or would you rather get the money? We was talking 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.359 about that one day and I was like, hey, I 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:57.240 got the dinner. Animal. He was like, that's a bar. 0:20:58.480 --> 0:20:59.280 You said that to him? 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.840 Yeah? What? He cool? 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:04.640 It was awesome, you know what. It's so funny because 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.320 everyone on this show who shares stories about Jay, he 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:09.840 sounds hell of cool. Like Neo said that he would 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.600 call him the nigga that what did he say? He 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:13.640 was like the nigga that gave the. 0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.560 Song to Mario or some shit, the nigga that gave 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:16.240 us song to Mario. 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:19.240 He gave the hit record to Mario. Yeah, he's mad 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:21.480 about that for a while. Yeah, yo, because Neil was 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:24.560 signed to him and he gave that song to Mario's. 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.760 Breakout record Okay just a Friend. 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:29.840 And then Sipho Sounds had a good story about how 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:33.240 he worked in jay Z's office and he acted he 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:34.919 was like what up, Jay, and Jay stopped and was 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:37.520 like that's how you greet me, like I'm jay Z 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:39.800 or something. So everyone always has a really cool story. 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.800 Crazy. I ain't never seen nothing see no jay Z 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:43.320 like that. 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.320 Yeah, he was very funny. He just seems like he's 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:47.120 a very fun guy. 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:48.679 Yeah, No, he cool. He cool is here? 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:51.400 Yeah, you know that day is gonna come. I'm gonna 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:52.919 call you up and send you an email like. 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.600 Yo, my moment, kne you sold that picture And. 0:21:55.560 --> 0:21:57.439 I'm gonna say I had I got the money and 0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.200 the dinner. That's what I'm gonna say to him. Steal 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:00.600 that same bar, got. 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:02.720 The money in the dinner. I got the money and 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:03.720 get that. 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:06.880 That's awesome, bro. Yeah, okay, so you got the money 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:07.359 in the dinner. 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:09.520 I remember one day I stepped on his carpet too, 0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:10.760 and I had to tell him like, hey, I thought 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:11.560 you was gonna shelf me. 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:11.719 Bro. 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:12.359 I've been out here. 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:17.439 Stressed the whole time. He got like this white this 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:20.240 white all pack of rug. It looked like remember on, uh, 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:24.000 what's that ship called with with Denzel Is that movie 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:25.159 called American Gangster. 0:22:25.720 --> 0:22:28.240 He was like, you dab that ship, blot that ship whatever? 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:29.399 We stepped on it? 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.560 Yeah, like dirty as shoes. Yeah, like it was like 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:35.000 it was. I was trying not to step on it. 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:39.399 I was like, I didn't make it. And I was looking. 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:41.720 I looked his shoes was off. 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:46.920 I was like, fuck, so did you draw attention to it? 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:47.280 Yeah? 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.480 Like when I went outside, I just went back outside 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:51.200 on the balcony and I was like smoking. 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:53.000 I was just sitting there chill, and he came outside 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:58.359 and I was like, my bathroot stepping on your rug. 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:02.440 He was like, man, about that ship man, He's like what. 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:05.240 I'm like, yeah, I'm I'm like I thought I was 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:06.919 gonna get shelfed. I thought it was over with. 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:09.800 I'm like, damn't already started texting my management like y'all 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:10.359 fucked up? 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:11.920 Man, I stepped on that nigga rub. 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:16.239 So yeah, that's cool. So not only have you had 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:18.400 the dinner and the money, but you've been inside his crib. 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.959 No, that wasn't his house that was like his office. 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:23.080 It was just a nice rug. 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:27.160 Yeah, okay, nice nice place. Okay, Well hopefully your little 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:28.439 footprints still there. I'm pretty sure. 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:30.440 Yeah, legendary footprint. 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.720 You know. All right, so you're you get the deal. 0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.080 What are you saying? Are you at least calling Mama yet? 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:39.000 Because I feel like Mama's getting like not as much 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:41.320 ranging love from you? 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:41.840 Yeah? No. 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.399 Like, like I said, I'm the type of person like 0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:45.600 I don't really do nothing to this. 0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:51.080 So I waited till like everything was good to tell 0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:53.119 Mom was like, hey, look I did it. You know 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:53.680 what I'm saying. 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:57.160 So Kaitlyn is just finished making our dish. It looks delicious. 0:23:57.200 --> 0:23:59.000 Apparently it's gonna be nachos. I want to try it. 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:07.960 Clean went not a team, don't nartisize me. 0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:13.119 Don't what you know what? I feel like it's missing something. 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:16.000 It's missing a sauce. 0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:22.440 Like cheese, like a Kessel. No, but what like a 0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:24.920 Kessel cheese. You gotta have been fired. 0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:26.760 It's really good. 0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:28.359 I would have just went to the guns station and 0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:29.960 got some little Kesso cheese real quick. 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:30.720 Mm hmm. 0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:35.120 It's like, I don't know. I would have done cool 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.080 ranch chips. I would have done nacho. 0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:39.160 He's my favorite. 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.359 The cool ranch with this though. You know what, this 0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.760 is good. This is what I'll say for everyone listening. 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:48.360 This is actually very impressively good. I love the meat, 0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:53.840 I love the seasoning. The seasoning was really good. I 0:24:53.960 --> 0:25:03.880 like this just but you need cheese. It was really good. 0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:07.320 Sometimes, like when I was young, it might be like 0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:08.800 one two slices of cheese left. 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:12.600 I wasn't paying attention. Did you drop the noodles in 0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:16.200 with the meat and then stir it? This ship is good. 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.040 It's like a hood classic. 0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:31.920 You gotta get through it. 0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:36.399 This is good. You wish you would have had cheese. 0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.600 So, ladies, when you when you want to go to Carbone, 0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:45.080 not going to Carbone. 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:53.040 Is hilarious, spoken like a true Now why you keep 0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:53.480 turn that? 0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:54.600 Don't know? 0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:57.920 I watched you answer a date question and I was like. 0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:00.280 What was it? What kind of question was it? Oh? 0:26:00.760 --> 0:26:10.120 Oh, something on your little on your timeline. This girl said, 0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:11.960 was a deal of a perfect date or something? 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:12.360 Oh? 0:26:13.520 --> 0:26:15.400 Honest to this dude's a narcissists. 0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:17.359 That don't make me a narcissist. 0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:20.160 You've been claiming that the whole time, and then when 0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:21.560 I say it, it doesn't sound good. 0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:24.680 That doesn't that doesn't like justify narcissism. 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:29.240 Though, okay, as I've spoken like a true nigga. 0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:32.080 Though like a true nigga, I take that. It was 0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.120 answer okay. 0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:36.879 So I will say this. You and I are like 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:40.359 polar opposites in the sense that, like if I even 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.840 sat might think something great is gonna happen, I literally 0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:45.679 call like ten people, and then when it doesn't happen, 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.480 I totally warn people up from I'm gonna be really 0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.800 sad and that's how I live my life. And then 0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.960 you're the opposite. A deal can be signed, money could 0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:56.520 be transferred to your bank account, and you're gonna hold 0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:59.280 it in the whole time. So how did you tell 0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:01.080 your mom about the I hate to go back to 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:02.919 your mom, but I always feel like moms are like that. 0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:10.359 I told her like a Musico met with regnation. No, actually, 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:11.520 I think I called her a while I was in 0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:13.320 New York. She called me like what you doing. I'm like, oh, 0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:14.040 I'm in New York. 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.000 She like, how do you not stress this woman out? 0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:18.880 She got my location and it's like, if you're looking 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:20.280 for me, you know exactly how to find me. 0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:24.120 Oh, you share it with me? Okay, you know what, Jesus, 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:26.160 she's probably got to check that every day. 0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:28.200 My sister usually check it. 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.760 Your sister what My big sister usually check it every day, 0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:33.200 Like she wake up in the marning. I think that's 0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:34.560 like one of the first things to do because if 0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:37.119 I'm somewhere that's unfamiliar, She'll start calling me at like 0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:38.840 six o'clock in the morning, where are you at. 0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:42.159 That's how I am with my little brother when I 0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:45.200 go to New York. He hates it. I know he does, 0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.080 but it'll be like five in the morning'll be like, 0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:48.920 where are you at. I'll be blowing up his phone. 0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.720 You don't answer, I'll text him. But the last time 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:56.080 I did this, I said, yo, I texted like where 0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:59.480 you at? He was like, I'm good. I said, prove 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:04.440 you're my little brother. Because he didn't call back. He's 0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:06.240 text him like, how do I know he didn't get murdered? 0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.240 And you know, somebody, my little brother is crazy. 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:09.879 I was like, tell me what you used to call 0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:12.320 me when you was a little kid like, and he 0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.400 was like, you're fucking losing it. But I'm like, yo, 0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:16.760 when you know you got to make sure you know. 0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:18.160 Your people safe instincts. 0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:21.040 Yeah, but I know he hates that shit. But anyways, 0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.520 go on. So you break the news to your mom 0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:26.240 you're going to this meeting with Rock Nation. She obviously 0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:29.280 knows that you're about to get signed. What does she say? 0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.719 She was like, my fingers crossed for you. Just let 0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:34.399 me know because she I've always been like this my 0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.600 whole life. Like I'll be getting like a word at 0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:38.360 school or something. 0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.960 I won't say nothing until like the day before, like yeah, 0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:43.720 like like if I got to show or something like that, 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:44.920 I'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm just about to go 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:45.640 do a show real quick. 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.880 I'll just be I feel like my mom tells me, 0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:48.880 I downplay everything. 0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:52.200 Yeah, but I like that. I actually like that. I 0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:54.720 like that. Like I said, I'm the opposite. I could 0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:56.480 I could win a dollar and you don't know about 0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.200 it or even change his hands and be. 0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:02.000 Like, oh what a dollar. Yeah, I'm real quiet. I 0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:06.360 don't really like mm hmm. 0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.920 I'll just be But you be excited on the inside. 0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:12.200 Yeah, e static, like a little like you know when 0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.280 you shake up a soda. Yeah that's me on the inside. 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.480 I'd be a sthetic, but on the outside, I'll just 0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:20.800 be like chilling and then it's just like. 0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:24.400 I said, it's high standards for myself. 0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:27.800 So it's like, all right, that's cool, but that's not 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.200 really where you want to go, you know what I'm saying. 0:29:29.200 --> 0:29:30.680 I don't never want to get too excited. I see 0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:33.560 a lot of people get excited about their accomplishments and 0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.720 stuff like that and then get lost in the sauce 0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:38.320 and then like, yo, accomplishments be so lower level, you 0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.680 know what I'm saying, And I don't want to It's 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:42.400 like it all plays a different role. You know, you 0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:44.360 can't downsize anybody's accomplishments. 0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:45.920 But at the same time, like. 0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:50.360 If you're chasing a bigger dream, then you know what 0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:52.960 I'm saying, then you can't be satisfied with the bare. 0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:53.680 Minimums, you know what I mean. 0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:56.360 So I noticed with a lot of successful people on 0:29:56.400 --> 0:30:00.280 this show, the ceiling is constantly being moved. You'd be 0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:03.280 surprised how many guests, Rappers included, they have admitted to 0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.280 crying on the show. And like, these real intense situations, 0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.400 you're very successful, but the glass ceiling just continues to move. 0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:10.280 Is that how it is with you? 0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:11.160 Yeah, every day. 0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:14.440 Like, it's no such thing as being finished, you know 0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.040 what I mean. It's not no like you should never 0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.239 there's never enough work done, you know what I mean. 0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:21.760 There's always more work to do every day. 0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:23.360 But that's I'm an athlete though, whole a lot of 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:24.200 that comes from me being hot. 0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:27.320 And when you say athlete, football okay, yeah, you look 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.600 football built. Guys, I thought he was gonna be five 0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:33.520 to seven, crazy, six to one. I was like, oh, 0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:34.480 I was completely off. 0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:36.200 It's because I'll be singing. People be thinking I'm to 0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:36.640 be short. 0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:38.440 Yeah. Plus a lot of people on the end is 0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:41.680 especially like especially if you're talking singing, they're usually shorter, 0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:43.600 with the exception of like three the. 0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:45.719 Girls told me she didn't believe that I was with 0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.520 like some friends and they had like some girls people 0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:50.200 like some people with them, and I guess she never 0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.000 seen what I look like. She had only heard my music. 0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.080 My friends was like, yeah, he a rapper, Like yeah, 0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:58.760 all you know what I'm saying. It was just calm collective. 0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.960 We was hanging out and they're like, yeah, that's his 0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:03.840 music that he was playing. She was like, that's not him. 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:07.080 That dude's like light skin or something, and She's like, sure, 0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:08.160 he's too big to be here. 0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:09.760 I'm like, I can see that because you look like 0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:10.680 football player built. 0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:11.560 Yeah, I'm like him. 0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.320 I'm like, that's what I sound like. I sound like 0:31:13.320 --> 0:31:15.120 a like a short, light skinned guy, like you know 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:16.800 what I'm saying. She was like on the load, like 0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.600 I can't really believe that's you. She's like sing right now. 0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:24.800 I'm like, nah, wow, no, sorry, you should have had 0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.280 one of your little your friends, like pretend to be. 0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:29.160 What we doing on front of wordship. 0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.960 I believe it. I believe it. I believe it. So 0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:34.960 what is one experience that you could say in the 0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:36.840 industry that really made you go whoa. 0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:47.080 Mm hmm, like whoa like a bad war or like 0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:47.560 a good. 0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:53.120 Like a good whoa. Now I'm curious about a bad woe, 0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.560 but a good who First. 0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:02.480 I think just people like bigger artists knowing, like knowing 0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.360 who I am. I think one one dope experience was 0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:07.680 at the pop out. 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:09.640 At the pop out with. 0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:13.280 Kendrick, I was gonna say, I would think you would 0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:14.280 mention that, Yeah. 0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:14.720 No, that was dope. 0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:18.600 Backstage, I seem tireder creator, and I'm like a low 0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:19.760 key tired of the creator. 0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:21.360 Fan like, I'm not like, you know, like. 0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:24.080 He got his fans, Like I like his music as 0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:26.480 much as his fans, but I'm not like all into 0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:28.360 his aesthetic. You know what I'm saying. I got my 0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:29.920 own Inestad, I got my own style, but I fuck 0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:33.920 with his music. He makes great music. I've seen him backstage. 0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:35.600 He was like, what's the deal? It's like fun with 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:36.000 your ship. 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:40.560 I was like, I was playing cool. I was like, 0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:46.960 da I got outside. I'm like called it home. Yeah. 0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:48.920 I only got like two three homies that I like, 0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:52.040 really like act like be excited about. 0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:54.240 Say Naked said they could see me be excited. 0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:57.120 I like, So are those the homies you call when 0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:59.720 like the rock nation deals? Do you do those those? 0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:03.080 Because I like seeing that side of you where you 0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:03.720 get like that. 0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:06.280 You know what I'm saying. I lost my homie. 0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.560 Just get me crying all kinds like that, so like 0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:09.680 happy tears and everything. 0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:10.360 You know what I'm saying. 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:14.120 So tell me about this woe bad experience. Tell me 0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.280 one good one that you don't have to drop names, 0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:22.160 but you can always hint. Dude, don't don't. 0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:23.800 It's just so much going on. 0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:26.800 It's just like I don't know where to start, because like, 0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.240 I don't really care, that'd be my biggest thing. 0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:35.920 I love how you're tearing these up his breakfast. You know, 0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:39.120 the chip bites, the ones with the little freedom chip 0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.640 things in it. What are these crunch chips or whatever? 0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:44.840 That's where it hit because it has a. 0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:46.240 Little crustpicttle tame. 0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:49.160 All right, Come on, name a name because a time. 0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:52.440 Don't name a name, but name a name. 0:33:52.640 --> 0:34:02.120 No, what's a wold situation or industry situation. I don't 0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.760 really think I had too many bad woes, just one. 0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:07.400 I don't really have no bad ones. 0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:09.560 Alright, Well you were the one that baited me into 0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:10.080 it technique. 0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:11.279 That's what I was gonna tell you, though, if you 0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.760 if you thought it was as a female, you always 0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:18.520 have one a bad woe in the industry. Yeah, yeah, 0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:24.400 Like I don't really take I don't take this stuff serious. 0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:26.520 Like you got different types. 0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:27.600 Of people, you know what I mean. 0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.640 You got people that want to be in the industry. 0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.400 You got people that have no choice but to be 0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.640 in the industry. And then you got people that don't 0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:40.080 really care much for what's going on. Like you could 0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.440 tell like who wanna be in the industry cause it's 0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:43.840 like whoa like you. 0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:45.799 They'll do anything. You know what I'm saying. 0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:50.120 They do anything, they do everything, they'll it just doesn't 0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:51.640 make sense, like you could tell it's not a part 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.080 of their character. Then you got people that's this is 0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.359 really their character. They've been acting like this they whole life. 0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:57.840 They was just built for this shit, Like you know 0:34:57.880 --> 0:35:00.160 what I'm saying. They just industry people. And then like 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:01.680 I feel like I'm more the type of person. It's 0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:04.120 like I'll just be watching this shit like I'd be 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:04.800 like that's crazy. 0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:05.640 I would never do that. 0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:07.640 Hell no, Like you know what I'm saying, Like I 0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:09.520 don't really be on no industry shit, I would think. 0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.680 So, do you feel like your favorite part of your 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:13.640 job is making the music or performing? 0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:14.360 Performing? 0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:18.240 So I feel like it fits in both, Like making 0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:20.879 the music be such an experience for me because it's 0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:23.640 like that's like therapeutic cause I get to just talk 0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:27.040 about awe, like a lot of people don't get to 0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:29.160 talk about their feelings and express their feelings. Like a 0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:30.840 lot of people like just naturally have to keep it 0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:32.879 suppressed because they don't have an outlet to be able 0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.120 to speak or anybody that'll listen to him. I have 0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:38.120 millions of people that listen to me, you know what 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:40.319 I mean. So it's like that's like a blessing. So 0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:42.640 just being able to make that music and see like 0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:44.840 where it coincigns with people and like who relates to 0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.280 people walking up to me? Like just even this weekend 0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:49.080 being a complex called, so many people walked up. 0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:50.239 To me, like I do, walk up to me like, bro, 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:53.000 you got me do part times and that's beautiful. 0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:54.600 And I'm not like ride Wave or nothing. 0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:56.440 So it's like, you know what I'm saying, I don't 0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:58.560 make the same type of music he make, but just 0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:00.919 knowing that my art can get somebody through, they can 0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.160 can help somebody the same thing is doing for me, 0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:06.160 it is doing for somebody else. So h yeah, that's 0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.880 like dope. And then performing it. The best part about 0:36:08.920 --> 0:36:10.799 performing it is seeing that they know it. 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.920 Yeah, like seeing them sing your lyrics kay. 0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:17.480 Word for word. That's like the most warming experience. I'll 0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:20.239 get caught looking at people singing oh for real. 0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:22.600 Yeah, Like I didn't like sometimes I gotta wear glasses 0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:24.839 because like I'll be too into it, Like I'm like, yeah, 0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.040 like I would like I'm a concert goer like I 0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.319 love music, like I seen music like Hello out all 0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:30.040 day in the house and. 0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.520 Stuff like that. So it's like I'll be when I'm 0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:34.320 locked in with you. I'm locked in with you, you know 0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:34.920 what I'm saying. 0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.400 So your last ep was make the West grade again, 0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:39.799 make the. 0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:43.360 West grade again. It made the worst grade again. 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:49.400 So, uh, you are one of the top LA artists 0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:53.799 out right. Now, what are your like big plans? What 0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:58.560 can people expect from you? And what else would you 0:36:58.600 --> 0:36:59.400 like to accomplish too. 0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.680 I'm gonna going to extraordinary run like this next run 0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:04.440 that I'm about to go on, me dropping new music 0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:07.839 and just getting into my artistry and typing into my 0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:08.359 talents more. 0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:11.319 I think I'm a little bit more comfortable. 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:13.960 Like I'm the type of person that i'd be scared 0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:19.520 to move forward cause, uh, I'm scared to fail. 0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:22.120 Really, Yeah, you don't even seem like that. 0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:27.280 Yeah, No, I'll be like really like I'm really planning, planning, planning, 0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:29.279 planning and planning, Like I'm really be scared to be 0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:31.040 judged little key sometimes. 0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.399 So like I'll just like suppress how hard I'm going, 0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.560 Like i won't do certain things. I'll sit back and 0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:37.640 wait to do things until things get bigger. I feel 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:39.959 like right now I'm in like such a comfortable space 0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:41.560 where like I feel like I've grown out of that, 0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:43.880 like I don't really have any fears anymore. 0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:44.560 As an artist. 0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:46.319 Is just like fucking I'm gonna go hard and if 0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:47.759 they you know, they gonna like it or they not. 0:37:48.200 --> 0:37:50.880 And me just getting back comfortable. I think it all 0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.200 started with me, Like I started doing these freestyles every Friday. 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.640 That's something that I would just be doing and I 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:56.600 just never posted it. 0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:59.720 You know. Now now I'm posting them. I'm just taking 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:02.640 my career like a lot more serious, you know what 0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:03.000 I mean. 0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.680 I like that for you, and I could tell you 0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:10.000 whatever you do you put even by the way you 0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:12.800 cook this Broke dish. Thank you, it's really phenomenal. 0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:13.000 Broke. 0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:18.480 Very impressed with everything, Very impressed. Thank you for coming 0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.480 on the show, Thanks for having Where can everybody keep 0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:23.200 up with you and everything you have going on? 0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:25.120 And what projects can we expect coming out. 0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.560 Following me everywhere at K A L A N dot 0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:31.400 f R f R killing for real, for real on everything. 0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:33.640 No heart feelings on the way. 0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:37.759 No heart feelings on the way, No heart feelings on 0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:38.080 the way. 0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:57.000 Thanks guys, peace out. 0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:02.200 For more eating while from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect, 0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:05.879 visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:07.080 to your favorite shows.