1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have very 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: very special guests. He's out here making the West great again. 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Kaitlin for real, for reals in the building. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: What's going on? How are you good? How you doing good? 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: I'm starving while you were on your way here. I 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: ate orioles. I ate chips. 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: The orioles is the dessert. 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: I made it breakfast. 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 3: Okay, what are you gonna have me eating today? 11 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 4: So gonna start off, Gonna get some ground turkey going, 12 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 4: and get some noodles going, whip all out of it 13 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 4: together for you and put that in the bag. Smuch 14 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 4: from hot Cheetos up and get that going. Some Doritos up. 15 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: Mix all that together, and he got you a little 16 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 4: lunch snack. 17 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: Did you say put it in a bag? Yeah, we 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: didn't have a bag. 19 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: We're gonna put it. We don't got a bag. 20 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: Use a glo that's the touch the meat whatever. I'm 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: gonna stay. You know what you got to those I. 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: Could just use one hand. 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Eating while I broke Eating while broke up 24 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: in the building. What are you gonna name this dish? 25 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: Two for Real Snacks Spectacular, Two for. 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: Real Snacks Spectacular. Okay, I like, I really like that name. 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: It's a good one. 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: It's a good it's a good name. I love that 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: you made sure to add the kool aiate you I love. 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: I love grape kool Aid. That's the best kool Aid. 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to get the powder and see how much 32 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: sugar you put in it. But then I was just 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: like I was under. 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: The impression that that's what That's what I was. 35 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: You're gonna yeah, I was liquid diabetes. 36 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Liquid diabetes. Okay, So take me back to this, uh 37 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: Nacho ramen for real for real Spectacular Special. What did 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: you call it? 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: Two for Real Snack Spectacular. 40 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: Two for Real Snacks Spectacular? What was going on? This 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: sounds like something you was doing in elementary But take 42 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: me back. 43 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, so my mama used to be at work all day, 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 4: so I used to get home. I used to be hungry. 45 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 4: She used to be like, go in there and cook something, 46 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 4: and like I ain't really be wanting to wait on 47 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 4: like to unthrow the meat or like you know what 48 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm not gonna make no mashed potatoes and 49 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 4: all that, Like I'm not doing that, so you feel me. 50 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: We always have a seasoning the water. 51 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, for the ramen. Yeah? 52 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: Are you? But you already put the. 53 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 2: Man. 54 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 1: This is interesting, just so you guys, don't. I don't 55 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: even think he put the noodles. 56 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: Did you put the noodles in? 57 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: He's over there, he used I gotta recap it for 58 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: the listeners. He took the ramen season garlic, put it 59 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: in the water. He put garlic salt, Tony's dash and Lawry's. Now, 60 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: if you're all familiar with ramen, which I hope you are, 61 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: I want to I literally want to take a spoon. 62 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: We don't even have utensils out here. Damn, what do 63 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: I want to try? How salty this water is going 64 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: to be. It's going I've never seen someone season on 65 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: top of ramen season. 66 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: It's going to observe you just use the ramen. That 67 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: ain't enough? 68 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: Clearly, Okay, so you was doing this? Clear what age 69 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: were you doing this? 70 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: I probably started making this when I was like ten. 71 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so ten? Is it a single mom home? 72 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: Do you have siblings? 73 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 74 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 4: But I was I'm the youngest, so I was always 75 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: really by myself a lot I'm a lot younger than 76 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: my sisters and stuff. 77 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I just but they were in the home 78 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: with you. 79 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, no, no, we all got different mamas. 80 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So you were like the only child. 81 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: Of my mom, my mom only child. 82 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: Okay, and dad wasn't. 83 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 4: I got step pops. That's like my real Okay. I 84 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: hate was wrong, but nah, that's it. That's about it. 85 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Okay, So what was your mom doing 86 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: for work? 87 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: My mom did a lot of stuff. Man, My mom 88 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: had a couple of businesses. She was a social worker. 89 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 4: She just did it all for real, you know. She 90 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: she had a party planning business. 91 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: Moms really got to work. 92 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: Your mom was a social worker. I noticed when I 93 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: was reading as much as I could about you, you 94 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: have like an affinity for like special. 95 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: Needs y'all want. That's what I studied in college. 96 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: Does that have something to do with the fact that 97 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: your mom was in social worker? 98 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 99 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, like definitely, Like I'm probably influenced by Like I 100 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 4: don't think nobody's influenced boy, like just one thing specifically, 101 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: you know, I feel like the universe talked to you, 102 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 4: Like it be like a chain of events. 103 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: So Yeah, with my mom. 104 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 4: My mom being a social worker had a lot to 105 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 4: do with it because I've seen so much. She was 106 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: always gone, she was always dealing with other people, children 107 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 4: and stuff like that. So sometimes I used to be hating, 108 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: but you know, you know what I'm saying, when I 109 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: got older enough to really understand that, like she was 110 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 4: doing good work. You know what I'm saying, She's saving 111 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 4: people lives, like you start really noticing. 112 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: Other people's situations as you get older. 113 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 4: I just really commend her for her job and all 114 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: the stress and stuff that she had to go through, 115 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 4: and on top of that, still deal with me, you 116 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and a handful that I was 117 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: and then deal with life like you know what I mean. 118 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: So I commend her a lot. 119 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 120 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: You do a give back event in LA. Can you 121 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: tell us more about it? 122 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, Two for Real Days. 123 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: So we throw two for Real Day every year and 124 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 4: it's like a community give back event, charity event. So 125 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: we have performances and like games and little rides and 126 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 4: stuff for all the kids to come out and have fun. 127 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 4: We give back school supplies, we make sure they're ready 128 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 4: for school, clothes and stuff like that. We got a 129 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 4: lot of sponsors like Ethica, Puma's been one of the sponsors. 130 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 4: True Religion was a sponsor last year. A lot of 131 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: different food vendors and stuff come through and help us. 132 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 4: Costco always donate a lot, so we just take that, 133 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 4: take everything that we get from that and try to 134 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: give it out to the community. We throw it at 135 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 4: Compton College, so we'll probably start doing it every year 136 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 4: at Company College. It started off as just a block 137 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 4: party though in the neighborhood. We used to just throw 138 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: a block party in the neighborhood. And when you say we, 139 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: who was we to me and my homies and my 140 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: family and my friends. Started off with me and my friends, 141 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: and then as I became a bigger artist, we just 142 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 4: like it became more and more and more, like just 143 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 4: bigger every year, so we have to keep bringing people. 144 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: What's interesting about you is you have this amazing artistry 145 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: music career. Thanks and I don't know if it gets 146 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: highlighted enough, but when you read your resume or your backstory, 147 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: you have almost an equal amount of this whole other 148 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: side of you that's like giving back or your degree, 149 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,559 Speaker 1: like you graduated with what did you say your degree 150 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: was in? Like social science, social science, Like where's all 151 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: this this other inspiration coming from? 152 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: Probably my grandmother. 153 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 4: My grandmother was really like a heavy influence on my life, 154 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 4: Like that was my dog, you know what I'm saying. 155 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: So just before she passed away. 156 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to stop tapping that. There's gonna be 157 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: listeners there. They're gonna be like, stop tapping. Use another, uh, 158 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: use another tool. Maybe maybe that flat one. I was 159 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: gonna say the other food flat one, but maybe that one. 160 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm getting all up in his stuff. Sorry, but like that, 161 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: there's like something on there. 162 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna put it, not. 163 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: That on there? Yeah? What's that on that? 164 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: All? Right? 165 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 4: If you ain't never had a struggle meal with no dirt, like, 166 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: stop playing, stop stop acting like you ain't never had 167 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: a struggle meal with no dirt in here. 168 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: You ain't never sneeze on food. You ain't never dropped 169 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: the ice cube picked back up through it. I have, 170 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: I've done that, but I still do. 171 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 1: But I don't know if I've ever sneezed in food. 172 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: Though I didn't drop the homie full taco shells on 173 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 4: the ground, still made them. 174 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: For him, I don't. I don't know if I'll ever 175 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: let you cook for me off camera. Off cameras on 176 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: camera can see if you mess it up. 177 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: You just gotta pay attention. You never know, I might sprinkling. 178 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: What's crazy is you put all that seasoning in the water, 179 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: but I have not seen any seasoning on the meat 180 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: that has attention. 181 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: Oh you put seasoning on it. 182 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: Oh, I was so busy focused on listening. Okay, Okay, 183 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: let's go back to the story. Okay, So the inspiration 184 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: for all this other complete polar opposite of who who 185 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: it seems like you represent in your music. 186 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 4: I don't really think it's like a opposite, like I'm 187 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 4: still the same person. 188 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: It's just like that's kind of that's pretty. 189 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 4: Much like the basis of why I started making music 190 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 4: is that you can be whoever you want to be. 191 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: Is still be a. 192 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 4: Rapper, Like you don't gotta be a thug, you don't 193 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 4: gotta be like, you don't gotta be nothing like stereotypical. 194 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: You could be whoever you want to be and still 195 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: make it. 196 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Chief success, people still think 197 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: you cool, Like cool is like standard of yourself, you 198 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: know what I mean? That's what the for real for 199 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: real means it's like it's like doubling down on being yourself, 200 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 4: being real. 201 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where that comes from. 202 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 1: Okay, So take me back. You're a kid growing up 203 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: at home, what's your next injection towards artistry? Like growing up, like, 204 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: where do you start figuring out what you want to do? 205 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 4: I played sports, so I was really playing sports and 206 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 4: like just music and sports kind of I go hand 207 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 4: in hand. So when I was a kid, I know 208 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 4: I wanted to make music too, but I didn't know 209 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: I want to be a rapper. I always thought I 210 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: wanted to be like a producer or something. So I 211 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: started off kind of just like making beasts, but I 212 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: was like horrible. So I was like, let me just 213 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 4: try something else. And I started rapping a little bit, 214 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: and then me and my homies around my neighborhood we 215 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: all started rapping too, like everybody on my street. 216 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 2: So it was just making music together. Were just putting 217 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: it together. 218 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 4: And as I got older, when I got done playing football, 219 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: I was like, I want to do something. 220 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm gonna take like a year and focus 221 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 5: on rap. And after I focused on rap, it just 222 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 5: started to take off. 223 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: And how did your mom feel about this whole idea 224 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: of you getting into rap. 225 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: She was like, I don't really care because I graduated 226 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: from college. 227 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 4: So she was like, man, whatever you're gonna do, just 228 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 4: do it, just do it out one hundred percent. So 229 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 4: she she supported it. I remember early on, like when 230 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 4: I was young, she was scared for me. But I 231 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 4: could tell she was scared for me rather than you 232 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, didn't want me to chase my 233 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 4: dreams because it just was like, you know what, parents, 234 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 4: it's a different generation, generational gap, so the what you 235 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 4: can be was more limited back then, Like you know 236 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like she probably got so many friends 237 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 4: and people that wanted to be rappers and stuff like that, 238 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 4: and went down the rabbit hole. 239 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean. 240 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 4: You like, you don't think your little son gonna make 241 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 4: it or your baby gonna make it. When they when 242 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 4: they're like, oh I want to be a rapper, I 243 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 4: want to do this, you just think like damn, Like 244 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 4: a lot of people get discouraged, like day you don't 245 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: want to work hard and stuff like that. Like I 246 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 4: had other family members telling me like I don't need 247 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 4: to focus on rap, like I need to get a 248 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: job and stuff like that, and it's. 249 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: Like, how did that make you feel? When they would 250 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: say that. 251 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 4: I've never really been a person to have hurt feelings. 252 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, you really get one chance with me? Like 253 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 4: if you if you ain't saying what I'm liking in 254 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: the first like five minutes, I'm You're toned out for life. 255 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: I'll never listen to you again. 256 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: You hear that, y'all. That means when you run up 257 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: on Caitlin, you make sure you get your words correct. Okay, 258 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: you got that? What two elevator pitch before yours? 259 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: I'm an Aries, man, I hate you fast. 260 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: I love Aries people, Aquarius and Arias. I think just 261 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: get along really great. 262 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: They're pretty cool. 263 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: They pretty cool. When's your birthday? 264 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, I hang out with a lot of Aries. 265 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 6: Aries. 266 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: All right, so that's crazy. I hang out with a 267 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: lot of Areas and Queries. 268 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Aquaries. I promise you. I have a 269 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: lot of Aries people that I deal with. And when 270 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: I say there's something magical about aquaries and aries hanging out, 271 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: I don't know about dating, but I will say, like 272 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: hanging out, there's something cool about it. I don't know why. 273 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about signs, but I do 274 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: know like aquaries and aris. Okay, all right, so take 275 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: me back to when you start to seeing glimmers of 276 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: like your music is working in the right direction. 277 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: Direction a little after college, maybe like twenty like eighteen, 278 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 4: like sounds start going up crazy on SoundCloud. 279 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: My my project. 280 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 4: I put a project out in like that July, and 281 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 4: I think by like maybe like September October, I was 282 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: like a full fledged artist, Like I really didn't have 283 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 4: no choice. I was doing shows every weekend. I was 284 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 4: getting booked. I was living in Atlanta, and like people 285 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 4: was playing my music back out here, and I was 286 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 4: like blowing up out here. 287 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: I had no clue. I got back home. 288 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 4: My homies just like yeah, like hey this dude want 289 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 4: a bookie for a show like this? 290 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: Do want a bookie for a show. I'm like, hell no, 291 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 2: I need a manager or something. 292 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, what we doing? 293 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 4: So my homie Marlin, Me and my homie Marlin, we 294 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 4: was just thugging it out like as much. 295 00:12:59,160 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: As we could do. 296 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: Pop were like just in your DM's booking you. 297 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, DM and. 298 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 4: Me walking up on me in person like it was 299 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 4: even crazy, And I went on this like little I 300 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 4: went on tour with OJIEZ. When I came back from that, 301 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: my whole life was just like changing like fast, and 302 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 4: like before you knew it, I was on my own tour. 303 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: And then what was your mom saying when all this 304 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: is going on. 305 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: I'm kind of like quiet. 306 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 307 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 4: So like with my mom, we talk about everything, but 308 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 4: I'm the type of person like I don't really talk 309 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 4: about what I got going on until I'm finished because 310 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 4: I don't want to jinx myself, you know what I mean. 311 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 4: So nah, just telling my mom, she like, I'm like yeah, man, 312 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 4: Like I think one day I came to the house 313 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 4: probably in like twenty like eighteen or twenty seventeen, and 314 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: I was like, hey, I'm finna move out. She was 315 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: like what. I was like, yeah, like I'm out. I'll 316 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: see you later. Like I got apartment, she was like where. 317 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 4: I'm like like by lax. She was like in Marina 318 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 4: del Ray. I'm like yeah, low key like yeah. She 319 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 4: was like yeah, And I gave her some h your 320 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: mom with the news yeah, because it's like I was 321 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 4: just like I came because I was living in Atlanta. 322 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 2: I had already left like when I got out of college. 323 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm about to go to dow. 324 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: Atlanta went you went to school, but where did you 325 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: go to college? 326 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: At San Diego State? 327 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: Okay? And then you just moved to Atlanta like. 328 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: The day after I came out of college. 329 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: Did and you surprised her with that move too. 330 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 331 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 4: When I came home, I was like, she was like, well, 332 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 4: so what you gonna do. I'm like, I ain't gonna lie. 333 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, if you could just watch my dog for me, 334 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: I'll be back, like in like six months, I'm gonna 335 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 4: come back. 336 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: She was like what. 337 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, just give me like six months 338 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 4: I'll be back or something like that, Like I'm gonna 339 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: just go figure it out. 340 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go try it out here for And why 341 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: did you choose Atlanta? By the way, I think those 342 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: noodles are going to be like, baby, you don't want 343 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: to you you don't want to turn it off? 344 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: You see that. 345 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: It's okay, yeah, okay. This is what happens when you 346 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: watch a man cook is like nerve wrecking, Like please 347 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: don't burn down the house. 348 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: It's okay, It's okay, we do. 349 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: This, okay, see he said, He said, I took my 350 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: advice for me, or was I was? I leading you 351 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: in the right direction. 352 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 4: You gotta learn when to listen, you know what I'm saying. 353 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 4: As a man, you gotta learn how to listen. 354 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 355 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: I was like, we eat baby for when you done 356 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: all right? All right? So you moved to Atlanta. What's 357 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: the inspiration to move from LA to Atlanta? 358 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 4: That's just where music was like the mecca at that time, 359 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 4: Like everything was coming up out of Atlanta. 360 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: I figured, like, you know what I'm saying, let me 361 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: see what I can go. 362 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 4: Down there and learn. I can go down there network 363 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 4: maybe you know something to come up of it. So 364 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 4: I was just chilling down there my home meet. I 365 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 4: was my roommate in college in San Diego. He had 366 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 4: moved back. He was from there, so I just wanted 367 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 4: to go stay with Bro. Was staying out there just 368 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: making music. Every day, working on music. I was getting around. 369 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 4: I ended up making someone probably like my best music. 370 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: Think out there is why I like found like my confidence. 371 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 4: Like in Atlanta, you could be whatever you want if 372 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 4: you like a garbage man, like a Nick Gonna tell 373 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 4: you I'm the best garbage man ever. Like if you 374 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: like a cameraman, dude, gonna be the best camera man, 375 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: even if they not. 376 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, But. 377 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 4: Like the sense of pride that you have about yourself 378 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: that I found out there, Like just seeing so many. 379 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: Like people that looked like me that were successful. 380 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: I had never really seen a lot of successful people 381 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 4: like me in all different lanes and attributes. So I 382 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 4: think it kind of just motivated me a lot, you 383 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, being out. 384 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: There in that way. 385 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: So then what made you decide to come back home? 386 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: I had to because of the six month you told 387 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: your my home. 388 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 4: Nah, I just started blowing up. I started getting bigger, 389 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 4: like my music and stuff. 390 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: Making the music out there, we hearing it. 391 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: You're just uploading, putting it on Yeah, I'm just putting 392 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 4: it on SoundCloud, letting it go, just sending it to people. 393 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: I send my music to like five hundred people a day. Yeah. 394 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: I used to send my music out every day all 395 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: day to a bunch of people. 396 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 4: And just like in the in the in like doing that, 397 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 4: I just happened to start blowing up, blowing up. 398 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: So you come back out here, You're getting booked for 399 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: shows where do you end up being signed because now 400 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: you're moving without management. 401 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, No, I had. 402 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: I got with my brother Ray, So now I'm signing 403 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 4: to like first Class Entertainment, Okay. And after that that's 404 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 4: when we A couple of years later, after that, we 405 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 4: just was going up putting it together. 406 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,119 Speaker 2: I was moving around doing. 407 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 4: I probably didn't have to drop a song for like, 408 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 4: I didn't have to drop no new music for like 409 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 4: three four years. 410 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 2: So it was just going up off of that it 411 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: for like three years. 412 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: And that's good because you got to really work the record. Yeah. 413 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 4: I got to work all my projects, so like I 414 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 4: had dropped too for real, and then it just was 415 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 4: going crazy. So once that happened, we got out of that, 416 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 4: we went over to UH. We had some meetings, We 417 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 4: had a lot of meetings. We had meetings with everybody, 418 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: whole bunch of labels, and it just. 419 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: Felt like the best fit was to be like a 420 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: rock nation. 421 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: Can you know what I'm saying, the best fit? Yeah, yeah, 422 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: it sounds like good friend. Tell us how it happened. 423 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 4: I was performing at UH the BT Experience. 424 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: You familiar with that. 425 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 4: So there was a show at the BT Experience that 426 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: UH DJ head had put on and at the p 427 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 4: at the time, Sherry was the president of Sherry Bryant 428 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 4: was the president in the Rock Nation. 429 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 5: And I had been knowing one of her A and 430 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 5: R's Earl, like that's my homie. I had been knowing 431 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 5: him for a long time. 432 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 4: So I used to sit and wrote my music like consistently, consistently, 433 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 4: and just one day, uh, Scherry, see me perform. And 434 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 4: then before you knew it, I was just on the 435 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 4: plane going to New York. Like he was like, hey man, 436 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 4: let me. 437 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 5: Uh let me he let me take you to the 438 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 5: to lunch. 439 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 4: And I'm like, all right, so I'll pull up on 440 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 4: him well eating lunch, and I'm like, you feel me 441 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 4: like I pay for like I pay for it like you. 442 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: He was like, no, I gotta pay for it. It's 443 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: on the label, Like this was like a business meeting. 444 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 5: I'm like what you mean, Like he like, well, ship, 445 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 5: they want to fly you out there and meet with 446 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 5: like your people so we can like sign you. 447 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: We want to sign you. 448 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 4: And I'm like, man, shut up, earl, you lying like. 449 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 2: Like you playing like today ain't no time to play. 450 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 2: Stop playing. But I just gave him. I gave him 451 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: rate number, and I'll just let them figure it out 452 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: in there. 453 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 4: From there, I think like maybe like two weeks later, 454 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 4: we have Fluid in New York and we was at 455 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 4: the office. 456 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: So was that your first time in New York? 457 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: Yep, that was my very first time. That was my 458 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: second time going to New York. Actually my second time 459 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 2: going to New York. 460 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what do you think about pizza? 461 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: Y'all? Got a good pizza? Y'all got a good pizza y'all? 462 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: Impan out of Mama. 463 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: And panata is Ain't nobody going to New York to eat. 464 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: I can't leave it. I'm gonna bring the imp and 465 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: out of Mama back. 466 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: Really. 467 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, take it on the plane with me. 468 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: I had that. 469 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: You never had I out of Mama. You from New York. Yeah, 470 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: word to my mother. You gotta figure that out. 471 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna figure it out. 472 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 2: I go. 473 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: I go there at least two to three times a year. 474 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: Me too, I get about that much. 475 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just came back from there. 476 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 477 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. So did you ever get to meet Hoover or 478 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: anything like that? 479 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? I met him. 480 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 4: I met Hove in La before I met him in 481 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: New York. I met him in LA at the LA office. 482 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: So if you don't know anything about me, which you 483 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: kind of already know, is I'm a huge jay Z fan. 484 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: So you got a legendary picture I got. 485 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: I had my mom paint that custody like that. 486 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 487 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: I gave her just so you know, the picture doesn't 488 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: even do it justice. I gave my mom like a 489 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 1: really tiny picture, very tiny, very blurry picture. And I 490 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: was like twenty four, and I was like, Mom, I 491 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: will pay you in payments if you make this massive 492 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: painting for me. She did it for me. 493 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 2: That's dope. You got a dope. 494 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you how much she charged me, 495 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 1: because she charged you. She very little. Now if you 496 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: ask her, she'll be like, go sell my painting the 497 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: jay Z. I'll make you another one, and like, no, 498 00:19:59,080 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: the only one in the world. 499 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 2: You should get it. 500 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: Only I would never he would love that though. 501 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: He's so he's so deep into like fine arts, like yeah, 502 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 4: but everywhere it is like a museum. 503 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: He would own the only one. And then I'd have 504 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: to beg my mom to paint another one. Yes, and 505 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: my mom my Mom's trying to charge a lot more 506 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: for them. Paintings. 507 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: Now, your mom like you gotta just for next, Like my. 508 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: Mom be like ten thousand. 509 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: I'll tell you like over life, we got a whole life. 510 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: She's gonna fall for that. She ain't gonna fall for that. 511 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: My mom's gonna stop following for it. She watched this, 512 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: it's gonna be over all right. 513 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: So you gotta share one jay Z store just because 514 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: I'm a fan freak. 515 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: Okay. 516 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 4: So remember when that whole thing was going around, Like 517 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 4: when they was like, hey, do would you. 518 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: Rather take the dinner? 519 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 520 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 2: Or would you rather get the money? We was talking 521 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: about that one day and I was like, hey, I 522 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: got the dinner. Animal. He was like, that's a bar. 523 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: You said that to him? 524 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? What? He cool? 525 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: It was awesome, you know what. It's so funny because 526 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: everyone on this show who shares stories about Jay, he 527 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: sounds hell of cool. Like Neo said that he would 528 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: call him the nigga that what did he say? He 529 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: was like the nigga that gave the. 530 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: Song to Mario or some shit, the nigga that gave 531 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: us song to Mario. 532 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: He gave the hit record to Mario. Yeah, he's mad 533 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: about that for a while. Yeah, yo, because Neil was 534 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: signed to him and he gave that song to Mario's. 535 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: Breakout record Okay just a Friend. 536 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: And then Sipho Sounds had a good story about how 537 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: he worked in jay Z's office and he acted he 538 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: was like what up, Jay, and Jay stopped and was 539 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: like that's how you greet me, like I'm jay Z 540 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: or something. So everyone always has a really cool story. 541 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: Crazy. I ain't never seen nothing see no jay Z 542 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: like that. 543 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was very funny. He just seems like he's 544 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: a very fun guy. 545 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he cool. He cool is here? 546 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that day is gonna come. I'm gonna 547 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: call you up and send you an email like. 548 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: Yo, my moment, kne you sold that picture And. 549 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I had I got the money and 550 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: the dinner. That's what I'm gonna say to him. Steal 551 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: that same bar, got. 552 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 2: The money in the dinner. I got the money and 553 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: get that. 554 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: That's awesome, bro. Yeah, okay, so you got the money 555 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: in the dinner. 556 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 4: I remember one day I stepped on his carpet too, 557 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: and I had to tell him like, hey, I thought 558 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: you was gonna shelf me. 559 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 1: Bro. 560 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: I've been out here. 561 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 4: Stressed the whole time. He got like this white this 562 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 4: white all pack of rug. It looked like remember on, uh, 563 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 4: what's that ship called with with Denzel Is that movie 564 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 4: called American Gangster. 565 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: He was like, you dab that ship, blot that ship whatever? 566 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: We stepped on it? 567 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, like dirty as shoes. Yeah, like it was like 568 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 2: it was. I was trying not to step on it. 569 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 2: I was like, I didn't make it. And I was looking. 570 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: I looked his shoes was off. 571 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, so did you draw attention to it? 572 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 573 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 4: Like when I went outside, I just went back outside 574 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 4: on the balcony and I was like smoking. 575 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: I was just sitting there chill, and he came outside 576 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 2: and I was like, my bathroot stepping on your rug. 577 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: He was like, man, about that ship man, He's like what. 578 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm I'm like I thought I was 579 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 2: gonna get shelfed. I thought it was over with. 580 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: I'm like, damn't already started texting my management like y'all 581 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 4: fucked up? 582 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: Man, I stepped on that nigga rub. 583 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's cool. So not only have you had 584 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: the dinner and the money, but you've been inside his crib. 585 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 2: No, that wasn't his house that was like his office. 586 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: It was just a nice rug. 587 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, nice nice place. Okay, Well hopefully your little 588 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 1: footprints still there. I'm pretty sure. 589 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, legendary footprint. 590 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: You know. All right, so you're you get the deal. 591 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: What are you saying? Are you at least calling Mama yet? 592 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: Because I feel like Mama's getting like not as much 593 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: ranging love from you? 594 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? No. 595 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 4: Like, like I said, I'm the type of person like 596 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 4: I don't really do nothing to this. 597 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: So I waited till like everything was good to tell 598 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 2: Mom was like, hey, look I did it. You know 599 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 600 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: So Kaitlyn is just finished making our dish. It looks delicious. 601 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: Apparently it's gonna be nachos. I want to try it. 602 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: Clean went not a team, don't nartisize me. 603 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: Don't what you know what? I feel like it's missing something. 604 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: It's missing a sauce. 605 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 2: Like cheese, like a Kessel. No, but what like a 606 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: Kessel cheese. You gotta have been fired. 607 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: It's really good. 608 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 5: I would have just went to the guns station and 609 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 5: got some little Kesso cheese real quick. 610 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 611 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know. I would have done cool 612 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: ranch chips. I would have done nacho. 613 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: He's my favorite. 614 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: The cool ranch with this though. You know what, this 615 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: is good. This is what I'll say for everyone listening. 616 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: This is actually very impressively good. I love the meat, 617 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: I love the seasoning. The seasoning was really good. I 618 00:24:53,960 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: like this just but you need cheese. It was really good. 619 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 4: Sometimes, like when I was young, it might be like 620 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 4: one two slices of cheese left. 621 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't paying attention. Did you drop the noodles in 622 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: with the meat and then stir it? This ship is good. 623 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: It's like a hood classic. 624 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 2: You gotta get through it. 625 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: This is good. You wish you would have had cheese. 626 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 4: So, ladies, when you when you want to go to Carbone, 627 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 4: not going to Carbone. 628 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: Is hilarious, spoken like a true Now why you keep 629 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: turn that? 630 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: Don't know? 631 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: I watched you answer a date question and I was like. 632 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: What was it? What kind of question was it? Oh? 633 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: Oh, something on your little on your timeline. This girl said, 634 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: was a deal of a perfect date or something? 635 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 2: Oh? 636 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: Honest to this dude's a narcissists. 637 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 2: That don't make me a narcissist. 638 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: You've been claiming that the whole time, and then when 639 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: I say it, it doesn't sound good. 640 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 2: That doesn't that doesn't like justify narcissism. 641 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: Though, okay, as I've spoken like a true nigga. 642 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: Though like a true nigga, I take that. It was 643 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 2: answer okay. 644 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: So I will say this. You and I are like 645 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: polar opposites in the sense that, like if I even 646 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: sat might think something great is gonna happen, I literally 647 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: call like ten people, and then when it doesn't happen, 648 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: I totally warn people up from I'm gonna be really 649 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: sad and that's how I live my life. And then 650 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: you're the opposite. A deal can be signed, money could 651 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: be transferred to your bank account, and you're gonna hold 652 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: it in the whole time. So how did you tell 653 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: your mom about the I hate to go back to 654 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: your mom, but I always feel like moms are like that. 655 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 4: I told her like a Musico met with regnation. No, actually, 656 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 4: I think I called her a while I was in 657 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 4: New York. She called me like what you doing. I'm like, oh, 658 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 4: I'm in New York. 659 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: She like, how do you not stress this woman out? 660 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 4: She got my location and it's like, if you're looking 661 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 4: for me, you know exactly how to find me. 662 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: Oh, you share it with me? Okay, you know what, Jesus, 663 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: she's probably got to check that every day. 664 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 2: My sister usually check it. 665 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 7: Your sister what My big sister usually check it every day, 666 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 7: Like she wake up in the marning. I think that's 667 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 7: like one of the first things to do because if 668 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 7: I'm somewhere that's unfamiliar, She'll start calling me at like 669 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 7: six o'clock in the morning, where are you at. 670 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 1: That's how I am with my little brother when I 671 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: go to New York. He hates it. I know he does, 672 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: but it'll be like five in the morning'll be like, 673 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: where are you at. I'll be blowing up his phone. 674 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: You don't answer, I'll text him. But the last time 675 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: I did this, I said, yo, I texted like where 676 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: you at? He was like, I'm good. I said, prove 677 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: you're my little brother. Because he didn't call back. He's 678 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: text him like, how do I know he didn't get murdered? 679 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: And you know, somebody, my little brother is crazy. 680 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: I was like, tell me what you used to call 681 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: me when you was a little kid like, and he 682 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: was like, you're fucking losing it. But I'm like, yo, 683 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: when you know you got to make sure you know. 684 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 2: Your people safe instincts. 685 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I know he hates that shit. But anyways, 686 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: go on. So you break the news to your mom 687 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: you're going to this meeting with Rock Nation. She obviously 688 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: knows that you're about to get signed. What does she say? 689 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 4: She was like, my fingers crossed for you. Just let 690 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 4: me know because she I've always been like this my 691 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 4: whole life. Like I'll be getting like a word at 692 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 4: school or something. 693 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 5: I won't say nothing until like the day before, like yeah, 694 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 5: like like if I got to show or something like that, 695 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 5: I'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm just about to go 696 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 5: do a show real quick. 697 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: I'll just be I feel like my mom tells me, 698 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: I downplay everything. 699 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I like that. I actually like that. I 700 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: like that. Like I said, I'm the opposite. I could 701 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: I could win a dollar and you don't know about 702 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: it or even change his hands and be. 703 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: Like, oh what a dollar. Yeah, I'm real quiet. I 704 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: don't really like mm hmm. 705 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: I'll just be But you be excited on the inside. 706 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, e static, like a little like you know when 707 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 4: you shake up a soda. Yeah that's me on the inside. 708 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 4: I'd be a sthetic, but on the outside, I'll just 709 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 4: be like chilling and then it's just like. 710 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: I said, it's high standards for myself. 711 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 5: So it's like, all right, that's cool, but that's not 712 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 5: really where you want to go, you know what I'm saying. 713 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 4: I don't never want to get too excited. I see 714 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 4: a lot of people get excited about their accomplishments and 715 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 4: stuff like that and then get lost in the sauce 716 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: and then like, yo, accomplishments be so lower level, you 717 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And I don't want to It's 718 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 4: like it all plays a different role. You know, you 719 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 4: can't downsize anybody's accomplishments. 720 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: But at the same time, like. 721 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 4: If you're chasing a bigger dream, then you know what 722 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 4: I'm saying, then you can't be satisfied with the bare. 723 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: Minimums, you know what I mean. 724 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: So I noticed with a lot of successful people on 725 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: this show, the ceiling is constantly being moved. You'd be 726 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: surprised how many guests, Rappers included, they have admitted to 727 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: crying on the show. And like, these real intense situations, 728 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: you're very successful, but the glass ceiling just continues to move. 729 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: Is that how it is with you? 730 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, every day. 731 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 4: Like, it's no such thing as being finished, you know 732 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 4: what I mean. It's not no like you should never 733 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,239 Speaker 4: there's never enough work done, you know what I mean. 734 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: There's always more work to do every day. 735 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 5: But that's I'm an athlete though, whole a lot of 736 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 5: that comes from me being hot. 737 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: And when you say athlete, football okay, yeah, you look 738 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: football built. Guys, I thought he was gonna be five 739 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: to seven, crazy, six to one. I was like, oh, 740 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: I was completely off. 741 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: It's because I'll be singing. People be thinking I'm to 742 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: be short. 743 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Plus a lot of people on the end is 744 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: especially like especially if you're talking singing, they're usually shorter, 745 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: with the exception of like three the. 746 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 4: Girls told me she didn't believe that I was with 747 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 4: like some friends and they had like some girls people 748 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 4: like some people with them, and I guess she never 749 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 4: seen what I look like. She had only heard my music. 750 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 4: My friends was like, yeah, he a rapper, Like yeah, 751 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 4: all you know what I'm saying. It was just calm collective. 752 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 4: We was hanging out and they're like, yeah, that's his 753 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 4: music that he was playing. She was like, that's not him. 754 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: That dude's like light skin or something, and She's like, sure, 755 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: he's too big to be here. 756 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can see that because you look like 757 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: football player built. 758 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like him. 759 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 4: I'm like, that's what I sound like. I sound like 760 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 4: a like a short, light skinned guy, like you know 761 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. She was like on the load, like 762 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 4: I can't really believe that's you. She's like sing right now. 763 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, wow, no, sorry, you should have had 764 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: one of your little your friends, like pretend to be. 765 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 2: What we doing on front of wordship. 766 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: I believe it. I believe it. I believe it. So 767 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: what is one experience that you could say in the 768 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: industry that really made you go whoa. 769 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, like whoa like a bad war or like 770 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: a good. 771 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: Like a good whoa. Now I'm curious about a bad woe, 772 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: but a good who First. 773 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 4: I think just people like bigger artists knowing, like knowing 774 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 4: who I am. I think one one dope experience was 775 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 4: at the pop out. 776 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: At the pop out with. 777 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: Kendrick, I was gonna say, I would think you would 778 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: mention that, Yeah. 779 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: No, that was dope. 780 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 4: Backstage, I seem tireder creator, and I'm like a low 781 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 4: key tired of the creator. 782 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: Fan like, I'm not like, you know, like. 783 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 4: He got his fans, Like I like his music as 784 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 4: much as his fans, but I'm not like all into 785 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 4: his aesthetic. You know what I'm saying. I got my 786 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 4: own Inestad, I got my own style, but I fuck 787 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 4: with his music. He makes great music. I've seen him backstage. 788 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 4: He was like, what's the deal? It's like fun with 789 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 4: your ship. 790 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: I was like, I was playing cool. I was like, 791 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 2: da I got outside. I'm like called it home. Yeah. 792 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 4: I only got like two three homies that I like, 793 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 4: really like act like be excited about. 794 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: Say Naked said they could see me be excited. 795 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: I like, So are those the homies you call when 796 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: like the rock nation deals? Do you do those those? 797 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: Because I like seeing that side of you where you 798 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: get like that. 799 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I lost my homie. 800 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 5: Just get me crying all kinds like that, so like 801 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 5: happy tears and everything. 802 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 803 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: So tell me about this woe bad experience. Tell me 804 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: one good one that you don't have to drop names, 805 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: but you can always hint. Dude, don't don't. 806 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 2: It's just so much going on. 807 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 4: It's just like I don't know where to start, because like, 808 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 4: I don't really care, that'd be my biggest thing. 809 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: I love how you're tearing these up his breakfast. You know, 810 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: the chip bites, the ones with the little freedom chip 811 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: things in it. What are these crunch chips or whatever? 812 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: That's where it hit because it has a. 813 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 2: Little crustpicttle tame. 814 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: All right, Come on, name a name because a time. 815 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: Don't name a name, but name a name. 816 00:33:52,640 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 5: No, what's a wold situation or industry situation. I don't 817 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 5: really think I had too many bad woes, just one. 818 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 5: I don't really have no bad ones. 819 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: Alright, Well you were the one that baited me into 820 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: it technique. 821 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 4: That's what I was gonna tell you, though, if you 822 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 4: if you thought it was as a female, you always 823 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 4: have one a bad woe in the industry. Yeah, yeah, 824 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 4: Like I don't really take I don't take this stuff serious. 825 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 4: Like you got different types. 826 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 2: Of people, you know what I mean. 827 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 4: You got people that want to be in the industry. 828 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 4: You got people that have no choice but to be 829 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 4: in the industry. And then you got people that don't 830 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 4: really care much for what's going on. Like you could 831 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 4: tell like who wanna be in the industry cause it's 832 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 4: like whoa like you. 833 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 2: They'll do anything. You know what I'm saying. 834 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 4: They do anything, they do everything, they'll it just doesn't 835 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 4: make sense, like you could tell it's not a part 836 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 4: of their character. Then you got people that's this is 837 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 4: really their character. They've been acting like this they whole life. 838 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 4: They was just built for this shit, Like you know 839 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. They just industry people. And then like 840 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm more the type of person. It's 841 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 4: like I'll just be watching this shit like I'd be 842 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 4: like that's crazy. 843 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 2: I would never do that. 844 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 5: Hell no, Like you know what I'm saying, Like I 845 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 5: don't really be on no industry shit, I would think. 846 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: So, do you feel like your favorite part of your 847 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: job is making the music or performing? 848 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 2: Performing? 849 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 4: So I feel like it fits in both, Like making 850 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 4: the music be such an experience for me because it's 851 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 4: like that's like therapeutic cause I get to just talk 852 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 4: about awe, like a lot of people don't get to 853 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 4: talk about their feelings and express their feelings. Like a 854 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 4: lot of people like just naturally have to keep it 855 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 4: suppressed because they don't have an outlet to be able 856 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 4: to speak or anybody that'll listen to him. I have 857 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 4: millions of people that listen to me, you know what 858 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 4: I mean. So it's like that's like a blessing. So 859 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 4: just being able to make that music and see like 860 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 4: where it coincigns with people and like who relates to 861 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 4: people walking up to me? Like just even this weekend 862 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 4: being a complex called, so many people walked up. 863 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 7: To me, like I do, walk up to me like, bro, 864 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 7: you got me do part times and that's beautiful. 865 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: And I'm not like ride Wave or nothing. 866 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 4: So it's like, you know what I'm saying, I don't 867 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 4: make the same type of music he make, but just 868 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 4: knowing that my art can get somebody through, they can 869 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 4: can help somebody the same thing is doing for me, 870 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 4: it is doing for somebody else. So h yeah, that's 871 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 4: like dope. And then performing it. The best part about 872 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 4: performing it is seeing that they know it. 873 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, like seeing them sing your lyrics kay. 874 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 2: Word for word. That's like the most warming experience. I'll 875 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 2: get caught looking at people singing oh for real. 876 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I didn't like sometimes I gotta wear glasses 877 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 4: because like I'll be too into it, Like I'm like, yeah, 878 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: like I would like I'm a concert goer like I 879 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 4: love music, like I seen music like Hello out all 880 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 4: day in the house and. 881 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: Stuff like that. So it's like I'll be when I'm 882 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 2: locked in with you. I'm locked in with you, you know 883 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 884 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: So your last ep was make the West grade again, 885 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: make the. 886 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 2: West grade again. It made the worst grade again. 887 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: So, uh, you are one of the top LA artists 888 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: out right. Now, what are your like big plans? What 889 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: can people expect from you? And what else would you 890 00:36:58,600 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: like to accomplish too. 891 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna going to extraordinary run like this next run 892 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 4: that I'm about to go on, me dropping new music 893 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 4: and just getting into my artistry and typing into my 894 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 4: talents more. 895 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 2: I think I'm a little bit more comfortable. 896 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 4: Like I'm the type of person that i'd be scared 897 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 4: to move forward cause, uh, I'm scared to fail. 898 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, you don't even seem like that. 899 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I'll be like really like I'm really planning, planning, planning, 900 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 2: planning and planning, Like I'm really be scared to be 901 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 2: judged little key sometimes. 902 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 4: So like I'll just like suppress how hard I'm going, 903 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 4: Like i won't do certain things. I'll sit back and 904 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 4: wait to do things until things get bigger. I feel 905 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,959 Speaker 4: like right now I'm in like such a comfortable space 906 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 4: where like I feel like I've grown out of that, 907 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 4: like I don't really have any fears anymore. 908 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: As an artist. 909 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 4: Is just like fucking I'm gonna go hard and if 910 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 4: they you know, they gonna like it or they not. 911 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 4: And me just getting back comfortable. I think it all 912 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 4: started with me, Like I started doing these freestyles every Friday. 913 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 4: That's something that I would just be doing and I 914 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 4: just never posted it. 915 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 2: You know. Now now I'm posting them. I'm just taking 916 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 2: my career like a lot more serious, you know what 917 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 2: I mean. 918 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 1: I like that for you, and I could tell you 919 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: whatever you do you put even by the way you 920 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 1: cook this Broke dish. Thank you, it's really phenomenal. 921 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: Broke. 922 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: Very impressed with everything, Very impressed. Thank you for coming 923 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: on the show, Thanks for having Where can everybody keep 924 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: up with you and everything you have going on? 925 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 6: And what projects can we expect coming out. 926 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 4: Following me everywhere at K A L A N dot 927 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 4: f R f R killing for real, for real on everything. 928 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: No heart feelings on the way. 929 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: No heart feelings on the way, No heart feelings on 930 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: the way. 931 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 6: Thanks guys, peace out. 932 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: For more eating while from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect, 933 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen 934 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: to your favorite shows.